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Speaker 1: Our guest has a mug that he's drinking coffee out

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Speaker 1: it's mug humor. Mug humor is specific. Mug humor is

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Speaker 1: always leaves me wanting more. No, that's not good. No, no, No,

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Speaker 1: our guest is so fucking good. How about that? You

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Speaker 1: like really practical things to help with like fighting, and

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00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,719
Speaker 1: like the thing is the like secret for all, like

427
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: marital resolution is like slowing things down like to a

428
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 1: glacial pace in conversation, like you have to be you

429
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 1: have to take hours to like talk about a single

430
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 1: issue and you have to be extremely extremely slow. Yes,

431
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: like a podcast almost, but that's no, that's brilliant, that's yeah,

432
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: that's really good. So if you're listening on your struggling

433
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: struggling down by honestly, that is because I feel like

434
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: when Henry and I used to fight, like it was

435
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: when we would have arguments, it kind of was like, WHOA,

436
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: how did we get here so fast? And I think

437
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: it's like you want to be like, you want to

438
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 1: be like about this, but when this just bring up

439
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: so many things that you're like you don't even remember

440
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: anymore because you can mention something where like you the

441
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: other person sucked up, but then you're focusing on that,

442
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: but then they're focusing on the thing that you know

443
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: you sucked up that, so each of them thinks like

444
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: they're a victim, and they might be right. But if

445
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: you're gonna, you know, think that way, then you're not

446
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: going to do anything and nothing's going to happen. I

447
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: feel there's also always an instinct in any kind of

448
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: argument to win the argument, and so I would find

449
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: that sometimes, like when I would have tough discussions really

450
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: with anyone, We'll say relationships, but It'll be clear to

451
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: me that I've done something wrong, but I've already begun

452
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: this game of trying to prove that I'm right or

453
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 1: that I didn't do something wrong, or that actually you

454
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: did something wrong and that's the reason why I did this,

455
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: And it's becomes this thing of like whoa. Slowing it

456
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: down would make you ask yourself, like why am I

457
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: being so defensive? Why can't I just own up to

458
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: what I've And it's not even that hard to just

459
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: drop it, not to drop it completely, but to like

460
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: just to like release that and just like okay, actually,

461
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: let me just take a minute to like recalt, liberate

462
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: and just like get on your level. Do you think

463
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: that conflict is important in a relationship. Oh, it's not

464
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: whether or not it's important. It's like it's gonna happen.

465
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: It's not like I mean, I would say, if you

466
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: don't have any conflict, you're lying, Like you clearly have conflict,

467
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: but you're like you're just ignoring it, or you are

468
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: like in denial. Damn. Yeah. Henry used to say that.

469
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't like fighting, and he'd like, well,

470
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 1: it's important that we sometimes have arguments because we have

471
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: to get to the root of what's going on. And

472
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I don't like it, yeah, but

473
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: you have to have to have to fight. When Peter

474
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: and I first started dating, we Peter is my boyfriend.

475
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: We we love I love Peter too. We better let

476
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: me say something. It's really culture. You better love your boyfriend.

477
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: But we would fight like we we would. Well, I

478
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: think it was also kind of like we're both like fiery,

479
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: we both have like strong opinions. What is your astrological sign.

480
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm a Capricorn, so I'm stubborn apparently, and Henry was

481
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: a Capricorn. Henry is a Capricorn. He's still with us.

482
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: And what element is that Peter is he's a Virgo,

483
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: which is I don't know whatever. You don't care about this, well,

484
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 1: I'm sure, Well, yeah, continue what you were saying. But

485
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 1: we would we would actually fight more like when we

486
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: first started dating than we do out We had like

487
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: we would have because we would be like and it

488
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't be fights. It would be like you can't say

489
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: that to me, or like you can't speak to me

490
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: that way. That's great because you we would like or

491
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: like little things that would be like rules that we

492
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: would set for each other. And then like I think

493
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: because we just like listened now we don't really fight,

494
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: and I don't know, it's kind of I think it's

495
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: kind of rare to see that or maybe maybe not,

496
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you're setting up if you're if

497
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: you're doing it early on it. What's nice is that

498
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: it might just set up like a model for what

499
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: this looks like. Yeah, and it's not that it's like, well,

500
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: nothing's going to be as bad as that, but it's

501
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: also you you're you understand well, we were like getting

502
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: to know each other. Yeah, okay, so it was like

503
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: and so wait do you like you don't have to

504
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: get too into detail about what those early fights were about,

505
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: but if it was something like you can't say that

506
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: to me, he would say, like jokingly, things like oh

507
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: you're such an idiot or something, and I'd be like,

508
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: you can't say that. And if somebody, if somebody heard

509
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: you say that, and this is so horrible with Peter.

510
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: Here is this He's gonna be like, people are gonna

511
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: think I'm au no, no, no, really sweet, that's really really,

512
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: really a good person. And this was just something you know,

513
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: like sometimes you'll say to a friend like, oh, you're

514
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: such an idiot, But to me, I was like, you

515
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: can't do that to somebody. And I think I was

516
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: really clear. I was like if somebody heard you say that. Yeah,

517
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: it would be embarrassing, right of course. Yeah, That's the

518
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: best way to frame it is like it comes at

519
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: a cost to you to do what you're doing, and

520
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: like the best simplest way to just catch all everything

521
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: is just to be like, you're embarrassing your exactly that

522
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: strong chills chills. It gave me a chill when you

523
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: said that and you looked in my eyes and you

524
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: did you did that. I did the gesticulation gesticulation, and

525
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: it made me shake. It made it, in fact, made

526
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: me shake. That's like my favorite thing when I'm able

527
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: to do that, when I'm able to like, I remember

528
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: this one when I was in acting school, I had

529
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: I said this. We had this final moment my freshman

530
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: year where we were all sat around in a circle

531
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: and we said things to each other love. I wish

532
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: that was life. I wish there was just circles and talking.

533
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I said this one thing to this

534
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: guy and he was like, I don't know, God, I

535
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: can't believe this is what this is what so cringe.

536
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: But he was like, Joe, I just I just don't

537
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: I just don't think I've ever moved you. And then

538
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: I looked at him and I said, this was a lie,

539
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: but I just said it. I was like, I don't

540
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: know when I'm not moved by you. This is this

541
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: is in class, this class. And then the teacher no, no,

542
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: you did go to E W. Bisch. But then the

543
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: teacher was like, stop everyone stop. Did you just feel bad?

544
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: The air changed in this purchase? Purchase? Come on, make

545
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: that purchase. I know, right, that's so good. I know

546
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: it was probably. Here's the thing though, like sometimes people like, okay,

547
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: so in being involved in comedy. Now, I think that

548
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people look at that and I think

549
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: maybe it's like more a projection thing, but they say

550
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: they're all scared of being vulnerable, you know what I mean,

551
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: Like it's this thing, like this thing of like you

552
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: never want to be real. But it's like and it

553
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: makes me say, like, I also don't think that's true,

554
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: because I think one of those vulnerable things you can

555
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: do is get up on stage and like expose sense

556
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: of humor. So all we do is be earnest on

557
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 1: like this exactly whatever. I don't think it's there's been

558
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: a shift. But you know, also even if you are

559
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: like you know, lying or putting up a front like

560
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: that's still a part of who you are. You're creating that.

561
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: That's like, that's a part of you. It might not

562
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: be the most like vulnerable week you know, part of you,

563
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: but it's something that you believe in that like, this

564
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: is what I want to put as like my identity

565
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: in this moment. And they're not crying. Doesn't mean that

566
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: you're not vulnerable. But that's and I think like some

567
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: people who would have that criticism about comedy would think

568
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: they'd be moved by something like what you just described.

569
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: But we're now able to sit here and unpacked the

570
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: fact the last you didn't even really mean it when

571
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: you said that, and yet this man was like the

572
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: energy and and you're kind of sitting there probably in

573
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: the back of your mind being like, WHOA, that's crazy

574
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: that they were receiving it this way because it wasn't genuine.

575
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it wasn't genuine. I mean it was

576
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: it was just me wanting to be like to have

577
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: gravity tasks, like in the moment, I just wanted to

578
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: make the choice that felt like I was in like

579
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: in some kind of moody thing, which is what I

580
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: don't know A lot of acting schools like that, just

581
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: like you're kind of like brainwashing yourself. It's acting school

582
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: mixed with that particular time. I think it was two

583
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: thousand nine nine, like the eight Like just remember this,

584
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: at least for me, like what felt peak culture at

585
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: that time for me was like fucking Animal Collective, Like oh,

586
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: like wow, stars, um, you know, fucking Connor Oberst Like

587
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: that was like there was this whole framework of like

588
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: being so emotionally tortured. That was like cool. I think

589
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: that's being nineteen. I really think I should agree. I

590
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: think part of it is like that age totally. I'm

591
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: not saying that's yeah, that was like specifically, my people

592
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: are going through that literally right now. I think they're

593
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: trying so hard to be um poignant, and I think

594
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: like also trying so hard to prove your talent. And

595
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: also I was actually just sitting here thinking about it,

596
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: and in an acting school, if you actually were able

597
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: to project that feeling of being moving, you did perform that,

598
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: and if it was successful for those people, active shifted

599
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: like I did it. You know you want the award

600
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: and that I guess. Yeah, I mean, but it is

601
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: so strange, like the things that they teach you in

602
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: acting school as like because when you when I mean,

603
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: at least now that I'm a comedie, I feel like

604
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: part of why I like comedy more than acting is

605
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: that like you have like a little bit of distance,

606
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: which is like good, you have like a little I mean.

607
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: And then there might be some people who are like

608
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: why would you want distance? Don't you want truth or something?

609
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: And it's like not yeah, or like it depends on

610
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: the medium. Like first I guess for like whatever for

611
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: stand ups, if this is such a lazy way to box,

612
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: like just compartmentalize this, but like for stand ups, like

613
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: that is what they're seeking is truth through an observation.

614
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: For if you're doing like a Gordon, or if you're

615
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: doing like a character, or if you're writing a sketch,

616
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: that's like it's something that is somewhat removed from what

617
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: you're trying to say. It's being couched in something else.

618
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's that's like not exactly an accurate

619
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: I feel that this whole thing of like people who

620
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: are like people who are critical of comedy, it's insecurity.

621
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: It's it's them just being like unable to um understand

622
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: how to be funny purposefully, you know what I mean.

623
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: It's it's and it's that's what I think. I mean

624
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: whenever I experienced like trying to do comedy with actors

625
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: at school, like for example, like we were in paper Roulette,

626
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: like which was our sketch group, and that was like

627
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: half people who had just done straight up acting and

628
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: half people and like me and Sudy and you who

629
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: had been in the comedy groups and had no experience

630
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: really on stage. And the fusion of that was very

631
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: interesting because when you ask someone who has just purely

632
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: been an actor to do comedy, the insecurity that comes

633
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: out is so like profound, like and it's it's so

634
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: it's such fear and they it's incredible to watch someone

635
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: who's been deep be trained in like Shakespearean classical acting

636
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: be scared about landing a joke and feel the pressure

637
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: that comes with like being compelling on stage in this way,

638
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: and it's like, I'm of two minds about it. It's

639
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: like a how could you have been through all What

640
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: a waste to have gone through all of this years

641
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: of an expensive training and then feel self conscious when

642
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: you get on stage with certain material and I'm not

643
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: saying self conscious ever really goes away. But it's like

644
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: you should feel comfortable performing text no matter what it is.

645
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: You should not have to think too hard about like

646
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: timing of fart queue exactly like you know, and then

647
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: at the same time by the same token. I also

648
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: think that kind of means like acting training is not

649
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: necessarily at all the only way to become good at that.

650
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: I think it all works really still fashion, it's really

651
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: old fashioned. It's like so out of touch with like

652
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: the experience of actually trying to act in the world,

653
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: like me being able to cry when I'm upstage right,

654
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: because that is like the most vulnerable location on the

655
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: stage floor for me, is like the last possible thing

656
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: that I should be spending four months trying to do,

657
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: Like I should be learning how to the fucking weight tables,

658
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Or like I don't know

659
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: I mean, And I'm sure that's like a cliche thing

660
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: to hear, like I'm sure everybody who's an actor knows

661
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: that now or whatever, but it is it does feel

662
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: kind of like acting training programs are kind of like huckster, Like, yeah,

663
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Well, I think the people

664
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: that make decisions about how those schools are run. Don't

665
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: necessarily super care if everyone in that studio um is

666
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: successful in the industry, because I think that literally, like

667
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: like with something like experimental theaters at what some people

668
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: do four years about studio and they've never acted once

669
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: on camera and then they have a problem getting an agent,

670
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: or they have a problem doing a commercial audition or

671
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: even understanding how to behave on camera, And it's like, wow,

672
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: could you have gone through a four year program and

673
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: then try to expect is that ever promised? Though? You think,

674
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: what do you mean? Like the people who run these

675
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: programs and they're not advertising this as a thing of like, well,

676
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: by the time you get out, you'll be successful, right, No, not,

677
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: it's not your right Yeah. And also like when we

678
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: were at n y U, like there was that huge

679
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 1: like performance art boom, like with Marina Abramovich, Like everyone

680
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: who was at the experimental theater and was like, I

681
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: don't need to be on SVU, I can be And

682
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I guess you could. You're also making

683
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: that decision to try to be quote unquote Marina Abramovich

684
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: at eighteen, and you will feel And I just think

685
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 1: if we were all being like, if we're all actually

686
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: looking at this like trying to have a career, which

687
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: if you're going to a uh university that costs upwards

688
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: of let's let's take n y U out of it.

689
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: Let cost upwards of a K. And when all of

690
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: a sudden done, which is what these things cost, you

691
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: should try to be professor, should have professionally prepared. And

692
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that doing four unless you're extremely an

693
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: extremely privileged situation, doing four years of pure just only

694
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: only only theatrical training and expecting to make that a

695
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: professional career, I think it would be it would be

696
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: better for everyone if we just gave a more well

697
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: rounded thing, Like everyone that goes to acting school should

698
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: have an on camera class at least a class just

699
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: like experience what it's like to try to replicate the

700
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: professional experience, just for a little while, because it makes

701
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: me sad to know that, like, I mean, come on,

702
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: almost everyone we went to school with, I'm gonna say,

703
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: of the people aren't doing it anymore, or like sad.

704
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: Even class like a business class that even learn like

705
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: like self promotion, like branding, branding, whatever, you know, like

706
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: those things are really practical things that it's that thing.

707
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: I sorry to relate it back to this, but like

708
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: that BuzzFeed article about burnout was this the one was

709
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: it buzzed? It was BuzzFeed. It was like this huge

710
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: thing about how like how millennials are the burnout generation?

711
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: Like and it's because so here's the thing. It's like,

712
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: you're what you're expressing is like it's a shame that

713
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: a program doesn't prepare you in a fully holistic professional

714
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: way once you're in the industry. Like is that also

715
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: I don't know the sense of obnoxious, but just like

716
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: go with me, Like, is this also that thing where

717
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: it's like our generation is a product of this mentality

718
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: of well, our parents were promised a great life and

719
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: retirement if they as long as they got a good education,

720
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: went to college, went to vocational school, whatever, um. So

721
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: if you do if you do A, then you will

722
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: get outcome B and that is a good outcome. And

723
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: so that what they passed down to us was well,

724
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: if you take piano lessons, if you go to like

725
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: tennis camp, if you if you go to s A T.

726
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: Prep and get into a good college, then you will

727
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: be set for life. And that is not true that

728
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: or that promise was broken on our our generation. And

729
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: so is it that same thing where it's like, um, you, well,

730
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: if you come to tish and if it's one of

731
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: the best and you and you're in one of the

732
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: best acting programs in the country in the world, Um,

733
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: then like you should be a working actor by the

734
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: time you come out. Like that is also a false

735
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: right well with any artistic endeavor, totally totally, But our

736
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: generation is used to this idea of if I do this,

737
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: then I will get that, which is not a volunte

738
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: is true. And also like your trajectory changes so dramatically,

739
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: like whether you like it or not. And so to

740
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: be so pigeonholed so early is such a can be

741
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: such a disaster down the line. And I mean people

742
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: usually you know, are adaptive and figure it out, you know,

743
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: you know, would they do whatever they need to do

744
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: to like make a life for themselves, I think. But

745
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: like it is so crazy that like that you can

746
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: have such a such a like heavy decision be forced

747
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: on you at such a young age. And that's I guess,

748
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: like when in reading this article, it's like it's so

749
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: sad to me that we are still in this kind

750
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: of like situation where at eighteen you make a decision

751
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: about where you're going to go to school and spend

752
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: this exorbitant amount of money and like make this kind

753
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: of career decision. I mean the majority of people I

754
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: know and I'm not even I'm taking this even out

755
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: of people that pursued acting like went to school and

756
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: didn't even know the many different kinds of careers they

757
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: could have. How are they going to go at eighteen

758
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: years old, when they're not even a fully formed person

759
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: and decide I'm going to spend this insane amount of

760
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: money to make a decision about my career. I mean,

761
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean I knew. I grew up with a girl

762
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: who she went to Towson University, also not cheap to

763
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: go be because she liked the area and like the

764
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: school to be um an elementary school teacher. And then

765
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: when she graduated, she had a breakdown because she didn't

766
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: want to do that. And it's like, I don't know

767
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: about you guys, but where I'm from, it's like there

768
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: were so many teachers and it's such an easy thing

769
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: to say that you want to become because you haven't

770
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: figured it out. You don't figure it out in high school.

771
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: So you said you're gonna do this thing. That's nice,

772
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: and they say and the guidance counselors, no shade, but

773
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: they say, I can make that work. That's easy for me.

774
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: I've done it before. And they send you off and

775
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: it's like incredibly hard to get a job in that field.

776
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: And also that is just because you see that so

777
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: many times, because you went to a school. That doesn't

778
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: mean yes, it's so different, and it doesn't mean you're

779
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: going to be good at that. And I think, I'm sorry,

780
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: but I went I went to public school. I think

781
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: there's a lot of bad teachers. I mean I had

782
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: a lot of great teachers, but I had also had

783
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: a lot of teachers who were right out of college

784
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: clearly and just put notes on the board and sat

785
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: and drank their coffee while we copied it down. And

786
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: I think it's all kind of cyclical and sad, and

787
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: it's it. It comes from us being forced to make

788
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: these big decisions so early. I just think we need

789
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: to really re examine the whole thing of like shipping

790
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: kids off to school to make this big decision and

791
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: spend the kind of money that we're spending. Well, like

792
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, well that's why in Europe,

793
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: like like people go to vocational school and all that.

794
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: And I think the reality is like you can make

795
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: we can make a bunch of different changes. But like

796
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: it's a symptom of life to be like thirty years

797
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: old and be like what the fun doing, like no

798
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: matter what you do, and so like it would be

799
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: nice if we had more options than like here you go,

800
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: You're about to like stomach of dollar dead, like you know,

801
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: and it's just kind of like it just sucks a

802
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: little bit. What did Peter major in? He studied history.

803
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: He studied like Germans German history, or he studied history

804
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 1: in general, but like he focused on like German history. Yeah,

805
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: I love It's funny because like he loves history and

806
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: knows a lot of history and do not give a

807
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: shit about history. But when you have a crush on

808
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: Joe's boyfriend and you have to stop. Okay, Honestly, when

809
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: I was tripping on as I kept looking at Peter

810
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: and Joe and I was like, beautiful, these are the

811
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: two most like inside and out, most beautiful people. I mean,

812
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: while we're like sweating, I'm looking back at our photos

813
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: that I'm looking back at the photos that we took

814
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: during the trip and I'm like, we all look in insane,

815
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: But you guys actually took that one really good picture

816
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: on the beach. Oh yeah, that was actually it literally

817
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 1: made me say to our but like, what was remember

818
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: that moment? Wait, we just have to his friends on

819
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: the beach. That's the picture. I just have to walk

820
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: through this moment with Joe. We this was like on

821
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 1: the down swing of the of the Okay, well, first

822
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: we start, we start the trip on the beach during

823
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: the day and it was full on psychotic episode for

824
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: each of us. For each of us just like what

825
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: And then we go back into the house and we

826
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: hang out in the pool, which was also harrowing. Also harrowing,

827
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: but then the sun starts to set, and let's go

828
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: to the beach and look at this at the nature.

829
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: And so we go. We walk out to the beach

830
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: and at this point, the cloud it was a cloudy disk,

831
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: beautiful thing in the world, most beautiful apocalyptic thing where

832
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: it was high tide and they had literally moved the

833
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: house inland, like a hundred feet inland. Because like at

834
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: the beginning of the day when we were on the beach.

835
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: This house was like on these beams and these weird scaffold,

836
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: this weird scaffolding was around it, and we were like, oh,

837
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: they're doing something to the house. That's funny. Um. And

838
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: we were like, we set our towels down in front

839
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: of it. And then by the time we come we

840
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: went back in the afternoon, it had moved fifty yard

841
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: and we were our minds were blown. We were like,

842
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: oh my god, nothing is real, like this house just

843
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: literally moved. And then we're screaming. And then we go

844
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: we go to Loti when you watch the sunset on

845
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: the other side of the island. Um. And then we

846
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: walked back and do you remember the swan? No, sorry,

847
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure I will show you a picture when I

848
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: took a picture of us, Joe, would you remember this.

849
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: The sun was setting, it was like a blue it

850
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: was blues and purples everywhere. And then we walked back

851
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: to the house and there was just a single swan

852
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: floating in the water by the boats, and all of

853
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: us you include remember that now, screaming freaking out that.

854
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: Immediately afterwards, we also saw a mother cat with her

855
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: whole litter. Yes, yes, we were like being bombarded by

856
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: a nature. This is the swan. You remember this swan.

857
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: It's literally a b it's and we were all screaming like,

858
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: oh my god. Look. We were like, oh my god,

859
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: that is not a basic picture of a bird I've

860
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: ever seen that. It's a goose and it's kind of

861
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: far away. It was not even like, it's not a swan,

862
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: it's a fucking goose. And it's fine, it's a goose,

863
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: but they'll post a picture of this normal. All of

864
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: us believed it to be a swan. You I swear

865
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: to God, Joe, I guarantee I started this conversation. You

866
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: have seen a peacock on his first after a peacock,

867
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: duarantee it was a fucking rat. It was me, Joe, Max, Max, Peter, Henry,

868
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: Joel can booster all of us just like freaking pointing, screaming,

869
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: our minds are being blown by the swan in the water. Fine,

870
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: it was a goose, but to us it was it

871
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: was beautiful. It was beautiful. But maybe it's a beautiful goose.

872
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: It's just it might have been another like freshman year

873
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: circle acting moment of me putting it on. Honestly, yeah, fuck,

874
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: do we still do we still do this? Don't we

875
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: do what this freshman year performance performing do? Um? Yeah?

876
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes you know you just gotta have a little gravitas.

877
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: That's yeah, fine, we do. We do it all the

878
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: time on this On this we like fake gravitas where

879
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: we just like push, we lean into like, well we

880
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: have to serve this idea of what people think of

881
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, is that crazy? Um? No?

882
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes I'm like, well I better say something

883
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: oh good, insightful or good you know, Well, I don't know.

884
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: I don't. I feel like I don't ever pressure myself

885
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: to say something good and insightful because I don't think

886
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: that's why people come to this store. No, but people often,

887
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: like people often love comedy. Like I feel like this

888
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: is a very old fashioned comedy thing where be like

889
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: laughing laughing and then like the truth. Yeah, Like it's

890
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: just like it's like like that stupid thing about like

891
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 1: a spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down. Yeah

892
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: that's true. True. Yeah, yeah, everyone think about it. What

893
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: if the medicine is like something that's wrong, like you're

894
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: saying something that's stupid or like did you change new parpins?

895
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I would say, don't go. Really, Okay,

896
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: I love I live for m blance but here's the love.

897
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: I love be Wishaw actually is crush I have and

898
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: he actually has. He has a really good moment in

899
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: the movie where his character kind of has like a

900
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: little bit of a breakdown. Um, and it was really

901
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: good acting. And I was like to come out at

902
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: the closet nor Golden Globe a very British scandal, yes,

903
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: very English scandal, very English scandalum. But he I would say,

904
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: don't go see Mary Poppins. I've been calling it Mary

905
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: Poppins Revenge. Don't go see Mary Poppins Revenge, because the

906
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: first twenty minutes are like, yeah, we're in the world,

907
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: it's fabulous. Um. But then there's like a whole middle

908
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: hour section which is like, holy sh it, is it

909
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: like this is when they're in there in the bowl?

910
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: Like what happens during my pop And that's that's the question,

911
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: that's the big question. And you know what, no one knows.

912
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: No one remembers because you remember her floating in on

913
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: the umbrella. Yeah, when she gets there to the house,

914
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: there's these kids, there's a chimney sweep there's a mirror gag,

915
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: there's very merry. There's very little conflict. I would and

916
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: there's a lot of conflict in this, but it's kind

917
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: of like dry and and so literally what happened, it's

918
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: the first the whole middle hour, all of that too,

919
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god. And so I literally got

920
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: off and went to the bathroom, checked my phone, came back.

921
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: It was the end of Meryl's part. I completely missed Meryl.

922
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: And then the last thirty minutes gets good, like and

923
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: I actually was crying. There's the whole this whole thing

924
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: with balloons and picking a balloon and flying in the

925
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: air and finding her inner child. And I was like this,

926
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: I get. I can get on board with that. And

927
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: I am a crier. I cried frequently at films me too.

928
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: I love to cry during a movie because because I'm like,

929
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: there it is my humanity. Yeah, it's so, it's so great.

930
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: So this is why I come to the movies. That's

931
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: why I never crying. I think I think I'm dead

932
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: inside because they think I've done asked that too many times.

933
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 1: I think that you it's the thing. When you're obsessing

934
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: about it, it will become true. So don't obsess about it.

935
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: You've done ASCID twice, parents generation did ascid daily. That's yeah,

936
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: you're right. We have friends that have done an approximately

937
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: nine hundred times in one year. It's like you're just

938
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: Henry um and he is the better for it, absolutely

939
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: um and we love that. Okay. So um, wait, we

940
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: have to ask you the question because and you know

941
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: it's been floating around, but we must have the question. Now.

942
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: You must ask the question you I've been asking lately.

943
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: You ask Okay, So this is the question that we

944
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: ask every single guest. And we asked the guest what

945
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: was the culture that made you say? Culture was for you?

946
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: This is defining pop culture in your young life that

947
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: you can look back and say, oh, that's kind of

948
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: why I am the way thinking about this because I

949
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: was like, there's like a few different answers and you

950
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: can give them. I think one of them was when

951
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: I saw a Blue Man Group, because I remember watching

952
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: Blue Man Group like as a boy, and there was

953
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: a moment where they took out these toilet paper guns

954
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: and they shot that audience with toilet paper and they

955
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: kept going and I remember thinking to myself, this is possible.

956
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: We can do this and it's the most mainstream thing

957
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: I know. But at the time, I was like, this

958
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: is out there. You know what that is? Et w

959
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: It's crazy how it is mainstream. Everything about it screams

960
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: that it's not. It's so unusual. It's so unusual. It's

961
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: so avant garde there, it's cutting it. I've seen it twice.

962
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: I've seen it an Astra place, and I've seen in

963
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: Universal Orlando. Yeah, yeah, I love that you selected to

964
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: see it in Universal or Its just like years ago

965
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: and it was like it was like part of the

966
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: part of the hotel deal we got was like and

967
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: you can see Blue Man Group is a huge theater

968
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: there that doesn't so you have to imagine across the

969
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 1: country and probably across the I would imagine it's international

970
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: all the time, the most successful in China. Forget it,

971
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 1: people fucking fly if there's something like primordial in each

972
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: of us, as a blue man's a blue man. And

973
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: did you ever think of like auditioning to be a

974
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: Blue Man? I think you'd might have crossed my mind.

975
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: It might have crossed my mind. But I think I'm

976
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: too tall. I think they don't. They always have like

977
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: a tall one they're all very tall, you know, you know,

978
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: do you know Branson Reese? Yeah, okay, so no, he

979
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: auditioned to be a blue Man, and I think you

980
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: would think of him as a perfect blue Man. But

981
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: they told him that he was too expressive because you

982
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: have to think, like if you do really anything a

983
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 1: lot with your face, like it's going to really explode

984
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: off stage. And because of the way the nature of

985
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: that makeup, like you could just literally look to the

986
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: side and it reads to the whole audience. They told

987
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: Branson Rees he was too expressive to be a blue

988
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: many imagining now like the gay man in charge of

989
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: all of the artistic choices of Man group, who's like, yeah,

990
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: you know not you yeah, that's a blue man. No not,

991
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: we need that reality, We need blue Man. We need

992
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: like an American idol for Blue Man Group. And the

993
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: judges are Ico Singer Um and three others Fantino to

994
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 1: Rice Merl Ginsberg and Jenny McCarthy. McCarthy. That's two judges

995
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: from the Mass Singer and two judges from from you

996
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: know what. Courtney Cox she should host, she should host, yes,

997
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: And David Arquett it should be a parent trapping when

998
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 1: we try to get the back together. They won't they Um, okay,

999
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 1: is there besides the toilet paper, Yes, the toilet paper.

1000
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: And then this was another one. I thought like, this

1001
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: is so stupid, but I have this like memory. I

1002
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: think I was probably an infant. It's like the first

1003
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: memory ever I have in my life. And it might

1004
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: be like a screen memory. Well it is a screen memory,

1005
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: but it's like I have like this print in my

1006
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: mind of like me on the floor looking at a

1007
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: vase and I'm like, I'm looking at this and I

1008
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: am like, oh, wow, that is so beautiful god. And

1009
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: I'm tiny, tiny, tiny because I'm looking up at a

1010
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: vase from the floor and it's like it has like

1011
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: it's like a silhouette kind of because the sun is

1012
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: like going past it. But I remember looking at the

1013
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: image of this and being like, wow, that is so beautiful.

1014
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: And it was the first time I've ever been like wow,

1015
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: looked at like the beauty of something. Yeah, you appreciate

1016
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: the aesthetic of something a back lit vase. That's that

1017
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: we've never had something like this. I mean the combination

1018
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: of a back lid face and and that's that's that's

1019
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: the Gallapon school of individualized study. That's why. Yeah, that's me,

1020
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: that's you, baby, that's me talk. Okay, can we all

1021
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: go around the table. I've been thinking about this, Okay.

1022
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: I love that I just called this a screen memory. Yeah,

1023
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: is this a common thing? I don't know if a

1024
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: psychoanalytic idea. So it's like that it's like a well

1025
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: usually it's like related to trauma, but okay, I literally

1026
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: have one of those. But it is a it's a

1027
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: visual memory that is preserved as like a single image

1028
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: in your mind that holds like a lot of psychic

1029
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: content to it. But like does it matter where? It

1030
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if there's not that much action going on, Like, well,

1031
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: would you look for you? It's you looking at this face? Yeah,

1032
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 1: and like that is that's pretty static. Yeah, that's great

1033
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: because mine is something somewhere where I'm just sitting on

1034
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 1: the kitchen floor. I'm like four years old and I'm

1035
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 1: playing with something but I'm looking down. This is insane.

1036
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: That sounds insane. It just sounds so abstract and like

1037
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: who cares? But it's just me looking at the door

1038
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: to our basement and that's it. There's nothing, there's no

1039
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: other detail. But it's so livid, not lived lucid. Vivid.

1040
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: Livid means lucid and vivid culture. Lucid and vivid. That

1041
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: doesn't mean angry. I mean, okay, so that's mine, what's yours? Okay,

1042
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: So my parents really never fought. They're there, and I

1043
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: don't want to like say this and qualify them to

1044
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: all the listeners as parents who fought or have this

1045
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: kind of relationship. But one time, I think I was

1046
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: literally like three years old, I remember sitting in my

1047
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: living room on the ground and my parents were having

1048
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: an argument. And my mother, Katrina Rogers, who is not

1049
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: like she is not she doesn't fight, she flipped our

1050
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: kitchen table. She took that kitchen table and went booth

1051
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: and it was like, I've never anything like it, and

1052
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: I just remember looking at it and I'll never forget it.

1053
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 1: And literally, my mother has never done anything like that.

1054
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: In the twenties five years I since I remember this happening,

1055
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: but I think it is like a trauma record because

1056
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: it was watching something happened that was so out of

1057
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: the ordinary, and I will never forget it. And I'm

1058
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: not even kidding. Nothing has ever happened like that ever since,

1059
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: isn't it crazy, like the threshold for trauma. Yeah, and

1060
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: I was truly a toddler, and I remember it's it's imprinted. Yeah,

1061
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: I have a lot of I have a lot of

1062
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: parental fighting. Yeah, I had one of those two. But

1063
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: I just remembered I was traumatized once. Because I was traumatized.

1064
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: I was in line Pretzels. I was probably five. I

1065
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: was very, very, very young, and there was this girl

1066
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: who was wearing like a spaghetti strap like black top,

1067
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: and she had like a lot of eyeliner on, and

1068
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,439
Speaker 1: she was, you know, a teen, and I was looking

1069
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: at her, and she was with these two boys, and

1070
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: she reaches into her like bra and she pulls out

1071
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: a cigarette and she had this look on her face

1072
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: of like pure mischief and wrong doing. And I remember

1073
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: looking at this and being like, I'm alone now watching

1074
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: this evil thing happen, and I am so scarred by

1075
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: like the humanity, like the side of humanity, like watching

1076
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: this person do this wrong act. And I was so

1077
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: like it was so I mean, like, you know, it

1078
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: was nothing, but at the time, I was so affective.

1079
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: I was so scandalized. It was really it really, if

1080
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: you were to eternal sunshine yourself, like you know what

1081
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: happens in the movie is that he like does he

1082
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: hides her in his childhood memories, right, it's right, and

1083
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: so it's like him being bathed in the sink by

1084
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: his mom. I feel like that is like something where

1085
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: if you were to go back and like erase stuff,

1086
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: or if you were to couch, let's say you were

1087
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: a good eternal sunshine like one of your exes, like

1088
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: you would hide that person in that memory of of

1089
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: the Wetzels Pretzels. Sorry, I don't know where I'm going

1090
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: with this. I just this. This girl looked just like

1091
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: Avril Levine, pure mischief and pure mischief. She was a star.

1092
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 1: It was Avril. I feel like it might have been

1093
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: It's like the the you know, the timeline totally. She

1094
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: would have been roughly thirty, yes, exactly. She she is

1095
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: like fifty years old now, which I love. Would she's

1096
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: an older woman older? Um wow, do you seek aut

1097
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: when's the last time you saw blue Man? Honestly, because

1098
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: you can go at any time. I could go. I

1099
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: walk by that, you know, the aster place. That's the

1100
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: shitty place to see it though. I'm sorry, no shade,

1101
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna go, you gotta go to Orlando.

1102
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: Stop and Matt for people listening, for people who work

1103
00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: there who listen. Matt is lying, it's a bit. I'm

1104
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: a kidding. It's just a smaller space. And I like

1105
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: to enjoy my my content with a large number of people, exactly.

1106
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: And if you are in Blue Man and you are listening,

1107
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: reach out to me, maybe a couple of comp tickets,

1108
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: you know. Of course I could get on board with that.

1109
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: I also can see you doing it like once a week.

1110
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't want to. I don't want

1111
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: a lot of your time. Doesn't want you to be

1112
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: of course pursuing the comedy. And but but I think

1113
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 1: it's probably easy to pick up. Although here's the thing

1114
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: with those balls on each other's mouths and ship the

1115
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: paint to the paint and the drumming, right, what's the

1116
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: deal are they? Is there a trick going on? Or

1117
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: are they really catching these balls in their mouth every

1118
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: time without fail? They forgot about that. That's sick out

1119
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: of me. They have a mouth eye coordination. That was

1120
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: actually now that I remember that, now there was also

1121
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: a sexual component. I think I'm gonna say, like they're

1122
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: all they're probably good at fucking Are you sure? I

1123
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: think all every blue Are you sure before you say

1124
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: that you want to be sure? I'm one hundred to

1125
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: be good. You know what? Yeah, you're right, they're good

1126
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: at bodies. I wonder how many of the blue men

1127
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: are gay. I wonder if a Blue man would be

1128
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: gay for me. I think, like that's so interesting that,

1129
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: like when we talk about people who are good at sex,

1130
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: like in just judging by the thing they do that's

1131
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: not sex, I bet they could, like I bet that

1132
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: dancer here's a good I don't know, Yeah, you have

1133
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: no concept. Some one time I've spoken about this one.

1134
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: So they tried to like set me up with one

1135
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: of her friends and I told her. I was like,

1136
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: I just can't picture having sex with them. And she

1137
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: said to me something that always stated with me, And

1138
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: it was like she was like, well, you know, Matt,

1139
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: everyone has sex. And I was like, huh that's true,

1140
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: is it? Well, well, there's a there's a there's a

1141
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: there's a populace that is a sexual. But like if

1142
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: someone's expressing a sexual interest, that means they have a

1143
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: sexual interest and they have sex. So not being able

1144
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: to picture someone fucking you'd be shocked because they probably

1145
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: fuck Oh god, you're saying you can't. Were you saying

1146
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: you couldn't picture them fucking anybody? I just like, I

1147
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: couldn't see them in a sexual way. Or she was like,

1148
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: well they are a sexual being, but you can see

1149
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: them happen. That doesn't turn you on, Like me, imagining

1150
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: my parents having sex doesn't turn me on, right, But

1151
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: I know what happened. Yeah, it's probably happened a couple

1152
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: of times. It doesn't mean your parents doesn't mean I'm

1153
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: gonna send them a flirt to d M. Sorry. My

1154
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: sister one time, My sister one time was home and

1155
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: she said that she found condoms in my parents bathroom.

1156
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: And I was like, don't tell me that. Oh my god,

1157
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: that is so insane. I found like when I found

1158
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: a condom in my brother's room, I was like, another,

1159
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: you know, another trauma. That was a trauma. That was

1160
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: a trauma I found. I found condoms with my parents

1161
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: stoy and it was truly, oh my god, like destroyed me.

1162
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't know why, why do I just like, now

1163
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: that we're talking about parents and condoms, I'm like, don't

1164
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: they just always go raw? Well, that's the thing because

1165
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I guess I thought the whole thing

1166
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: about parents was like rossax, that was the whole thing

1167
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: about parents. Um well, I guess like this was like

1168
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: right before my mom went through like the final change.

1169
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: And I think, like, you gotta be careful because I mean,

1170
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: what if what what if you got pregnant at that

1171
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: would be a tough that would be a tough one,

1172
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: be a tough position to be put in. Forgot about pregnancy.

1173
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: You forgot all about pregnancy. You know, these parents can't

1174
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: just get on prep and do whatever they want. Like

1175
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: you kids, We don't age out of disease. We sure don't.

1176
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: I know. Actually that's there's a lot of cure. It's

1177
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: a real culture number eighty eight. We don't age out

1178
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: of disease. There's like gonore en cyphilis, and like, you know, yeah,

1179
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, I never thought about that. I hope

1180
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: that I keep hoing. I thought you to say, I

1181
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: hope I got basically, I mean, if you were, if

1182
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: you were in our old age to tell me like,

1183
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, I don't like I don't know if

1184
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: we'll be in the same home, but like I feel

1185
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: like I'll probably give you a ring whatever in communication

1186
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,919
Speaker 1: we're having at that time, and you say, oh my god,

1187
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: this just happened. I got Gnaia, I'll be like, yes, bitch.

1188
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: I feel like if we're like eighty eight years old

1189
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: and you tell me you got Gnaia, I'd be like slight.

1190
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: I know SAG is technically like um, a place for elderly,

1191
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: elderly queer people. I feel like we should open up

1192
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: an LGB home. Yes, LGB home, no tea. Sorry sorry, sorry,

1193
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: math you. I think that would be so fun. That's

1194
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: when everyone wanted that, And that's like a sitcom. That's

1195
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: a really good Golden Girls. Golden Girls, I think that

1196
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: it is. This sounds so chummy and gross and dumb.

1197
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: I truly hope we all end up in the same

1198
01:04:54,360 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 1: place when we are Heaven. Heaven is fire island. Swans

1199
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: are how bring it here? But we're on our trip.

1200
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: One of the things that was so like moving was

1201
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: looking at the houses that were abandoned because the shore

1202
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: was creeping up so far. I mean, the whole islands

1203
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: just disappearing. So there are houses that were close to

1204
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: the shore that are that have to be abandoned because

1205
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: they're just falling into the sea. It's a real thing

1206
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: like that. I think people that I think people like

1207
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: they I don't like to think about it, but I

1208
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: mean even just Hurricane Sandy alone, I can tell you

1209
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: from from growing up there, it took a serious toll

1210
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: on that. I mean, it's it's different now. It looks different,

1211
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: like if you're going to funk up infrastructure, like it

1212
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: will change everything about how that plays functions. So it's

1213
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: I think, I think, honestly, it's got it's got another

1214
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: like fifteen years. Oh my god, it's so sick fifteen tops.

1215
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean you have to think and not to get

1216
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: all morbid. But it gets worse every year. I mean

1217
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: these and the storms happen with more frequency. Actually, this

1218
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: hurricane season was mild, shockingly and that's with the tragedies

1219
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: that happened. But remember, like I mean the devastating hurricane

1220
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: that happened that happened very early in the hurricane season,

1221
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: and the way I feel was like, oh, obviously this

1222
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: is like gonna be like the way it is like,

1223
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: this is the beginning of the end. And then after that,

1224
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, like all things considered, we

1225
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: had a mild hurricane season this year. This pastor you're

1226
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: saying yes. And that's another thing about like the l

1227
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: train like kind of staying open is it's like the

1228
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: way I feel about it is kind of like, honestly

1229
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: keep it open because you don't want to spend another

1230
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: billions and millions and millions ares fixing it and then

1231
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: just to get what they're trying to do to make

1232
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: it hurricane proof or something, I mean, I guess that

1233
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: would have That's what you would have to like do

1234
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: something really really really really um sound to make it

1235
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: like a hurricane proof. And that's got to be the

1236
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: next thing you do, because don't just fix it to

1237
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: it to the best of its ability now, because I mean,

1238
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: it'll just get sucked up again. We'll see. What I

1239
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: always imagine is this is so stupid. But I remember

1240
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: seeing once, like after Sandy, one of the things they

1241
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: could do is just put a big balloon in the

1242
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: tunnel and it fills up the whole tunnel with this

1243
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: balloon so that no water gets down in there. And

1244
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: now then I'm thinking about this, I mean, I don't

1245
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: think it really would work, but like I have to

1246
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: be some kind of balloon. It would have to be

1247
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: a big it would have to be big and thick,

1248
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: filling out the whole hole, and it would be so massive,

1249
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: and then it would be you know, there would be

1250
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: no water damage. I know. Can you imagine that thick?

1251
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: Oh shit? Oh? Can we first of all, can we

1252
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: just say out o um. We had a long discussion

1253
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,479
Speaker 1: about bottoming before we got on air. Yeah we did. Yeah.

1254
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: Wait do we talk about that? Yeah? That was not

1255
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: on air, but we talked about bottoming, and you know,

1256
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: the preparation that we have to go through, and it's

1257
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: not unlike the L train is not unlike the L train.

1258
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean, let me tell you, by the time your thirty,

1259
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: you've had a couple of Sandies, honey, honey, essentially a

1260
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 1: real culture. By the time you're that's real cultureber remember

1261
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: a hundred and one one like the Dalmatians. By the

1262
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: time you've had a couple of Sandies. That's right, That's

1263
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 1: exactly right. My god. But I just want a Sandy

1264
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 1: that that stays. You want to Sandy that I want

1265
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: to Sandy that I can get used to. I mean,

1266
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 1: there's only been a handsome We're about to get a

1267
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 1: lot of Sandies that we can get used to. I

1268
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: just want to say, you know, you know what, I realized,

1269
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: very few people that I've had Sandi's multiple times that

1270
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: I've experienced multiple sandies with I have. I've only had

1271
01:08:55,479 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: sex with the same person more that's only happened like

1272
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: three or four. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't know,

1273
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: like no, maybe over share, but who the funk? Am

1274
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: I kidding this or whatever? I've literally talked about everything

1275
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: but I've had My number is very high, but the

1276
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: number of people that I've been with more than once

1277
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: especially very low. The meaningful I like, I hate just

1278
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: having sex with someone just once, Yeah, because like I

1279
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: feel like that first time, I'm like, nothing never counts.

1280
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: It's going on like who are you? Why are you here?

1281
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: Like you know what, what's up? What's what's up? Who

1282
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 1: are you? Why are you here? What's up? The three

1283
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: questions exactly. And so I was always like, let's just

1284
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: have a relationship, like to have sex, yes, yes, I

1285
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 1: don't know. Sometimes like I'll have a fucking amazing time

1286
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 1: the first time, and then the second time it's like

1287
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like maybe that first time it was

1288
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 1: so good because we were discovering someone's body for the

1289
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: first time. And then the second time, it's like who

1290
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: been here that I've turned I hang it up. I'm

1291
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: not turned on by the discovery. I always like whoa, whoa,

1292
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: Like here we go. You know. That's what makes grinder

1293
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: so dangerous for me, Like it's a slippery slope, Like

1294
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm not on it right now because like the thing

1295
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: for me is like finding someone out and then I'm

1296
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: like what does that mean? Because for me it's like

1297
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 1: the second time, it's like, oh, this is familiar and

1298
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: there doesn't have to be this like learning curve around

1299
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: what is it about you that you just wanted you?

1300
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 1: You live in the moment where they where they take

1301
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: their shirt off for the first So I just like,

1302
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's fun to experience someone

1303
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: and then I almost feel like it's a sick o thing.

1304
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: But once I've experienced someone sexually, like we've done it,

1305
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like and yeah, I don't know,

1306
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that's interested that that's that's a way

1307
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: that I am. Yeah, well that's beautiful and it's not

1308
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: what I want for myself. I'd like to have a

1309
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 1: meaningful relationship. And I'm not saying I haven't but I'm

1310
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: just but it's just like I I realized that about

1311
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: myself when I fully like committed to finding out more.

1312
01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: I wish that I could take a page from your book.

1313
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: I wish that it could be more like I don't know,

1314
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 1: like quicker or something, or like I think, well, I'm

1315
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: not there, Yeah, I'm not there anymore either. I'm just like,

1316
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I don't know. It's just I

1317
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: could do that if it's like if it's very very

1318
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 1: scripted in terms of like this is what we're gonna do,

1319
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: like where are you like that? I like that, let's

1320
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 1: do that, and then that's that. It depends on what

1321
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 1: you're looking for. I think, you know what I mean.

1322
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: I think you Bow and Yang are looking for a relationship,

1323
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: and so I think that that's why the concept of

1324
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: just having sex with someone one time isn't appealing to you.

1325
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: I don't think where I'm at right now, I don't

1326
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 1: think I'm looking for a relationship. I think I'm looking

1327
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: to have you experiences, you know what I mean. Like,

1328
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 1: so it just depends on what you're There was probably

1329
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 1: a time in my life where I was like horrified

1330
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: at the fact of like you know, sleeping with people,

1331
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: bunch of people. But but now it's what you want, uh,

1332
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: can I do you consider yourself like a slut? Um?

1333
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 1: There was a time when I considered myself us US.

1334
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: I don't think I ever considered myself a slut, But

1335
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: whenever Studio would call me a slut, I wasn't confirmed.

1336
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: I could understand where she was coming from, but she wasn't,

1337
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: and she was calling you that in like a pejorative way.

1338
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: She one time actually thought about this on the sud

1339
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 1: I right over. She literally turns to me one time

1340
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: and said, you've sucked every one of my gay friends

1341
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: that I've introduced to you too, And I was like,

1342
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. And also like she said,

1343
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: like like she thinks she doesn't know exactly what I

1344
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: have hooked up with a bunch of people she's introduced

1345
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: me to, or at least because I think it's a

1346
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: thing of like let me put my two gay friends together,

1347
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: which is like that's on her, no, but it's not

1348
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: necessarily bad because I did. I did hook up with them.

1349
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: I mean it was mutually beneficial for all. But for

1350
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: her to be like, wait a minute, but what it's

1351
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: like that yeah you work, but also yeah, but the

1352
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: thing is like, yes, I did sleep with them and

1353
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: had a great time, and so I guess at the

1354
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 1: time like to be jokingly called a slut. I was like, yes,

1355
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: why have you? Are you a slut? Me? Yeah, have

1356
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 1: you been a slut? I don't think. I don't know.

1357
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like slutty, but and I like that,

1358
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 1: but then like I don't think in action, like in

1359
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: my life I am a slut, right, I would say

1360
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 1: that I like have the psychology of a slut, but

1361
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 1: not the behavior. Are you a slut is the title

1362
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 1: of that? Are you a slut? But sluttiness is a

1363
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 1: state of mind? What was that? What was that that?

1364
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: There is a state of mind? That video, that clip

1365
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 1: of that. There's this girl on Twitter where like some

1366
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: it was a slut march and then like this like

1367
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: conservative pundit was there and the reporter was there. He's like,

1368
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: what is why are you calling a slut much? You're

1369
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 1: proud to be a st And she's like, oh, what's

1370
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: her name? Yeah, she's she's so cool. She's so cool.

1371
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: She's like the cool it's an actor, she's really cool. Yes,

1372
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: And she was like, I'm a slut. You're a slut.

1373
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: Your grandma's a slut, your mom's a slut. We're all

1374
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 1: sucking sluts here. It's like, get over it, like we're

1375
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: all sluts. It's also like it's not where it's when

1376
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: you say you're not slut shaming, You're just you're taking

1377
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: a word and beyond. Like I've had sex with people

1378
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like that's that's all.

1379
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 1: That's all it is. I think looking back, it's like

1380
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 1: I've been there. I go through periods. I go through

1381
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 1: periods where it's like I would like to but to

1382
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: be honest with you, sometimes it makes me a little there.

1383
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: And it really depends who it is, Like now that

1384
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: I know more people, it's like I don't know, there's

1385
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 1: a thing as like for me, it's like now that

1386
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm like there's more and more people who are like

1387
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: learning who I am, so like I get more people

1388
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: like contacting me and reaching out to me, and so

1389
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm it is this weird thing of like there's all

1390
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm people floir you know, and you're like,

1391
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: how do I receive this? Are you guys open? We are?

1392
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: We are open? So then it's like it's on the table,

1393
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: so I mean, but I was like, no, I've just

1394
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: been cheating this whole time. Well, I mean, the thing is,

1395
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: like what I was saying was like the kind of

1396
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: people I'm around on a daily basis are all people

1397
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: that I know, And there's that thing of like hooking

1398
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: up with your friends, which is like many in the

1399
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 1: gay community are just kind of like we can do

1400
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: this and it's fine. I don't know where I'm out

1401
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: with that, you know what I mean. It's so it's

1402
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: kind of like and it's it's all about how you

1403
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: want to spend your time and how you want to

1404
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: negotiate that afterwards. Like we were talking with Brandon Scott

1405
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 1: Jones about this, I was if I had to put

1406
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: a number on it, I've probably hooked up with at

1407
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:16,679
Speaker 1: some point, like maybe nearly of what of my gay friends.

1408
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: But I also don't think it's that high. I like

1409
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: usually almost every guy that like I've hooked up with

1410
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: casually I am friends with. Really yeah, that's because like

1411
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like that's part of what's

1412
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: so nice about being a gay guy is that you're

1413
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 1: kind of like a horny idiot and then you can

1414
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: just move on your friends first and then you hook

1415
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: up with them. Um no, well yeah I've done that.

1416
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 1: I've had the reverse happened too many times, and I'm like, oh, yeah,

1417
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: wait described that where it's like I'll be dating someone

1418
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: and then it's like, let's stay friends, and I'm like,

1419
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: I that is healthy. I want to know. And also,

1420
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: you didn't necessarily start start this particular relationship with them

1421
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: because you wanted to be friends, right, Yeah, it's like

1422
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 1: a validate it's like heartbreak. That's different. And I've definitely

1423
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: been heartbroken by people before, and then like if the

1424
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 1: opportunity arose where I was going to be friends with them,

1425
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 1: then it was like, yeah, I guess, Like I guess

1426
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 1: I have to. And that's usually only if I have

1427
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 1: to because they're like in that community that I'm in, right,

1428
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 1: But otherwise I would avoid them, you know. Yeah, literally

1429
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: some of my closest I mean, like I like Dave

1430
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: and I like started our friendship with a hook up

1431
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 1: with a hook hooking up, I mean like that's kind

1432
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: of like and so I can you can do both,

1433
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: but it is like a conversation like I won't like

1434
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: I recently hooked up with a friend like within the

1435
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 1: last six months, and we had I wanted to make it.

1436
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to have a conversation where it was like this,

1437
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: please can't make things different because that that would just

1438
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: I just really don't like tod that. Um. I just

1439
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 1: it's funny though, but like I'm listening to you guys

1440
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: talk about this, and I'm like, I don't have that

1441
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 1: same thing, and listen, y'all, um, it's it's not It's

1442
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: just like, it's fine if it's not like that for you.

1443
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm right, that's just not my reality, which is beautiful.

1444
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 1: And I also don't want people to because this is

1445
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: another thing I'm sensitive to, which is like the gay community,

1446
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 1: we kind of decided it's a certain way, or like

1447
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: it's it's widely perceived that it's a certain way. Yes,

1448
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: we're gay, we hook up with each other and that's that.

1449
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: And it's like I've also experienced that not happening, so

1450
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: I don't think that that happens. I also think it's

1451
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: like one of those things where like the let's stay

1452
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: that same statistic about like drinking college where it's like

1453
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: you you go in and you're like everyone's drinking, but

1454
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: then it turns out that like actually only like of

1455
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 1: the population and drinking. I feel like it's the same

1456
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: thing with with sex, right and gay men, and because

1457
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: sex is sexy and it's like to put it on

1458
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: this pedestal and it's something that's sold us and it's

1459
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: something we're supposed to be doing all the time. And

1460
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,799
Speaker 1: you see media where it's like so often in gay media,

1461
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: like like if there's two gay characters, they have hooked

1462
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: up or they've been on a date or something like that.

1463
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 1: It kind of does give this perception that like that

1464
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: is how all gay friendships begin. And like, I mean

1465
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 1: something literally the most important relationship in my life is

1466
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: a platonic friendship. And so we were talking to Brendon

1467
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 1: Scott Jones about how, like on the show the Other

1468
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: Two that he's on, like there's a platonic gay friendship,

1469
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: and it's so great to see, you know, because it's

1470
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 1: not really depicted in media. It's really not. Yeah that's true,

1471
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 1: or if it is, it's like people don't give a ship.

1472
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,719
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean. I want to see

1473
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: more things of like like you know, that's why I

1474
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: really liked the end of Big Little Eyes is because

1475
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: it was like women a Man Like. The show largely

1476
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: was marketed and perceived as this thing of like women

1477
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: kind of like cat fighting and like it's these rich,

1478
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 1: privileged white women largely that like are going to like fight,

1479
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: and then what the show actually was about was about

1480
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: how instinctually they had each other's back because of this

1481
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: shared experience. And you know, I would like to see

1482
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: that represented with the gay community more. I would like

1483
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 1: to see And that's why I really I really like insecure,

1484
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you see these like

1485
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: I like seeing things where it's like a depiction of

1486
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 1: community that is a depiction of capital C community. Yes, yeah,

1487
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 1: me too. That is so like it's so refreshing to

1488
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 1: see that because then it's like finally we get to

1489
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: see something different, Yeah, something real. It feels real, it

1490
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: feels more real, and that is missing where it's like

1491
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 1: you don't see these depictions of like queer people just

1492
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 1: being like just coexisting without that thick of a sexual

1493
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 1: layer to it. It's just like I mean, there was

1494
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: like Looking, but then Looking was about dating and sex though,

1495
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like and and and and

1496
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: I think Looking succeeded on very many levels, but I

1497
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 1: think like it definitely fell short and that for me

1498
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: it felt very cast and also like I get it,

1499
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 1: like it was you know what, it's still an important show.

1500
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 1: I think it was important and and we we scrutinize

1501
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 1: it because it it is the only thing. It's it's

1502
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 1: that thing where it's like people shout on Joy Luck

1503
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,679
Speaker 1: Club when it came out because it was the only

1504
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 1: thing was meant to represent this experience, and then all

1505
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: every Chinese person turned on it because they were like, well,

1506
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 1: this is stereotypical, this, this masculine d masculinize is Asian men.

1507
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: It's that, it's this, it's this. It's like, well, you're

1508
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: pinning all the ship on it because exactly yeah. And

1509
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 1: I think I think it's like with looking like whenever

1510
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: anyone was like why would you criticize this, It's the

1511
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: only thing we have, it's like, no, there's got to

1512
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: be someplace in the middle, because you have to be

1513
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 1: able to be critical of art, especially art that represents

1514
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:29,520
Speaker 1: you and your experience or touts to represent your experience,

1515
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: and also at the same time, it's like appreciate something

1516
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: for what it is and what it is doing, right,

1517
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: And that's just literally having a discussion about something. You

1518
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's like you don't have to

1519
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: get angry. You're like overly protective. Like we can talk

1520
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 1: about totally these things. We all just need to be

1521
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: Katrina Rodgers, is we need to table? She's doing for

1522
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 1: the table flip? Now I can't wait. I hope that

1523
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,560
Speaker 1: she I'm trying to think if she's strong enough to

1524
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 1: flip the table and now I think so side table, Yeah,

1525
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: like a smaller table maybe. Yeah, yeah, I think she

1526
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: can Flippita for sure. She's a she's a flipper. She's

1527
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 1: able bodied. Okay, um, I think it's time. It's time

1528
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 1: for I don't think so honey. YouTube both have a

1529
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: look in your eye like you have. You both literally

1530
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: announced before we recorded that you guys, have you have something?

1531
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: I have one that I think it's like a true

1532
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Okay, here we go. I think

1533
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 1: I have one too. It's just it's cooking. And by

1534
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 1: the way, I don't think so honey, is ours sad?

1535
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: We take one minute to go off on culture. We

1536
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: are going on tour. You can get buy tickets to

1537
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: us being on tour. Um. We don't have a website.

1538
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: But they are on my website and you can find

1539
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 1: them online if you Google search. Last Culture is the store.

1540
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: You can do it. You can do We trust you. Okay,

1541
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so honey.

1542
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 1: As time starts now, I don't think so honey. When

1543
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: someone says on their story, new post alert, we can

1544
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 1: see it. Like also, it's like I don't I don't

1545
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: necessarily love this because it's like, girl, we gotta deal

1546
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: with ambre alert. We gotta deal with alert. I don't

1547
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 1: need a new post alert. I also just think like,

1548
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 1: like you know, what if if we can if you post,

1549
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 1: we could see it. If we're following you, we can

1550
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 1: see it. I also just think like new post alert,

1551
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 1: just if I'm being alerted at something, it's there should

1552
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 1: be some cause for alarm. I don't know. I just like,

1553
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about this as someone who like be

1554
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 1: posting on social media, but I think new post alert

1555
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: is like another level where it's kind of like that's

1556
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 1: not self aware. You may be a little bit more

1557
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 1: self aware, and it's usually thoughts that do and the

1558
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: new post alert usually kind of it's never about like

1559
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: new post alert where you can find uh, information from

1560
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: my show, and I'm not sluching. But it's usually new

1561
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 1: post alert and it's like a thoughty picture and it's

1562
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 1: like I've already seen it. I probably already liked to

1563
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: eject off to it, and that's one minute. So I

1564
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 1: don't know a new postaler and I have a little

1565
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: bit of an issue. I mean, I think they're maybe

1566
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 1: they're trying to like subvert the algorithm and just be

1567
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: like make sure I get eyes on this, and maybe

1568
01:22:56,200 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 1: they're being funny. Probably probably not, probably not, probably know.

1569
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: And it's like to generalize with the bandon it usually

1570
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: is thoughts and we and we love thoughts and you're

1571
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 1: an important part of our economy. But like you, I

1572
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 1: don't have to do that. Most of the time, I've

1573
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,600
Speaker 1: literally already liked the picture because if you were a

1574
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 1: thought that I follow, you're probably popping up at the

1575
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 1: top of my Instagram story. Because Instagram is deeply evil.

1576
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 1: I can't like too many thought photos because otherwise in

1577
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 1: my discover page, it's all thought photos. And just like

1578
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,679
Speaker 1: when you go to your discovered page and it's literally

1579
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: all shirtless men, that's when you know you have to

1580
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 1: seek treatment. Um, but we need them to thrive. I mean,

1581
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 1: they are, like, as you said, a huge part of

1582
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: our economy. Actually, culture number twenty two thoughts are a

1583
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 1: huge part of our economy. Okay. I think I have

1584
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: something which is booming, by the way, and I'm so

1585
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: sick of hearing about it, because shut up. Things are

1586
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 1: not good things. Things are not good. I don't need

1587
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 1: to hear that there's more jobs, like you know what

1588
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 1: I mean, Like that's an I don't think for another

1589
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: time about this is bowen Yanks. I don't think so, honey,

1590
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: on this the episode with Joe Castle Baker, an incredible

1591
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: episode of Last Cultures that we've enjoyed, and his time

1592
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. Of these recipes

1593
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: that have Asian in the title, and there's nothing fucking

1594
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:20,520
Speaker 1: Asian about them. There's a mayo and a chicken salad,

1595
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: Asian medley whatever the fuck. No, my people did not

1596
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 1: throw almonds into their pork. Okay, I don't know what

1597
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: what Asian? What Asian meatballs are? Okay, just take what

1598
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 1: Asian tag? What Asian? My ancestors did not toil in

1599
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: the fields during the Colt Revolution in China. They did

1600
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 1: not wish upon a jade amulet for you to appropriate

1601
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 1: an entire fucking continental name just so you could sell

1602
01:24:56,479 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 1: and pedal your bullshit granola mick onto me, honey. So listen,

1603
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: if you want to call it something and make it exotic,

1604
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 1: just like there's raisins in it, I'll be sold. I

1605
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: love raisins. I'm a raisin bitch. Don't call it Asian.

1606
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 1: That's one minute. I think that was important, and thank you,

1607
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Just because it has scallions doesn't

1608
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 1: mean it's Asian. Honestly, what do you think is that?

1609
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 1: Why do you think they do that to make it

1610
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 1: seem more interesting, because they can't be like, well, it's

1611
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 1: it's a chicken salad sandwich. No, we gotta get clicks.

1612
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna call it an Asian chicken salad. We're gonna

1613
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 1: do a little little things of di con in there.

1614
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,679
Speaker 1: And I would assume whenever if I ever see something

1615
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,679
Speaker 1: with Asian in the title, I would assume as a

1616
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 1: as a consumer of food that they're talking about, like

1617
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 1: whatever dressing is on it, or like whatever sauces on it,

1618
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: Like just they're really just projecting an entire culture onto

1619
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 1: one ingredient. That's what it is. It's like it's ginger. Yeah,

1620
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: we're doing you know, garlics asia an Asian narrow Can

1621
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 1: you imagine? That is so insane, it's sucking crazy. Anyway,

1622
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 1: and that wasn't I don't think so, honey, that needed

1623
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: to be thank you. I think we're getting back into

1624
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: the form you and I because Matt and I everyone

1625
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 1: else like does amazing. I don't think so. And you

1626
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 1: and I are just so We've done so many but

1627
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 1: now but now I'm really like starting to understand how

1628
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: to get back into the saddle the journey, hero's journey. Yes,

1629
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,839
Speaker 1: thank you, Joseph Campbell, Okay, this is Joe Castle Baker's

1630
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, and his time starts now.

1631
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. People that need to play

1632
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:41,640
Speaker 1: music during sex even don't even need to, but just

1633
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: like do it anyway, Like what mood? What mood are

1634
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 1: you trying to set? Like I don't need you to

1635
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: set my mood. If I'm in the mood, I will

1636
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 1: be in the mood. I don't need Lord to set

1637
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: the mood for me. And if Lord sets the mood

1638
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 1: for you, what does that mean about you. Does tennis

1639
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 1: court make you hot? Does tennis cord make you hard? So?

1640
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, if you are playing, okay,

1641
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: let's say that you maybe not even Lord. Maybe it's

1642
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 1: something a little more appropriate, like some kind of electronic

1643
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 1: Like this is not like the moment where you like

1644
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 1: crack the code and ask for you like where I'm

1645
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: getting you. I'm getting your head right now, like this

1646
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: is not the moment for that kind of music or

1647
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: even like I don't even know any kind of music

1648
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 1: all music. The thing I want is to hear breathing

1649
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 1: and the air conditioner and that's that's one minute. Wow. Okay,

1650
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 1: I have sucked to Lord, and I find I could

1651
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: suck to the sound four harder lucks on repeat? Is there? Okay,

1652
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm not greatly. Yes, I love Lord. I'm not crying.

1653
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,759
Speaker 1: A song make you horny, Yes, it really does. Actually,

1654
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, Joe, I fucking I get

1655
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 1: extremely horny. Here's the thing that got to me. What

1656
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: about like a frank ocean thing. No, I don't think

1657
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 1: that's There's no music on earth, D'Angelo that will make

1658
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 1: me horny. Okay, you're not listening to the right playlist.

1659
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 1: I have a playlist on my Spotify called L O

1660
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 1: L and it's my sex playlist, and I will I'll

1661
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:18,719
Speaker 1: send it to me. And one time I had sexual

1662
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 1: someone and they said and after we had sex, they said,

1663
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 1: that was a great fun playlist, and I was like,

1664
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:26,599
Speaker 1: that's Joe. I get what you're saying. But I also

1665
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 1: every every it depends on the context. I think I

1666
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: like to light candles, play some fucking wordless music. Here's

1667
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 1: the thing, what about music words? The word this music

1668
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: is the worst because the word this music, it's I

1669
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: love this. Um, I'm not cracking the code and sv you,

1670
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 1: I'm giving you head. That is a beautiful pull quote

1671
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: from Joe's I d T S a Train. That's really good.

1672
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: But I wordless music is creepy. I don't think so.

1673
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah it is, but it's more appropriate. I would definitely

1674
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: definitely not choose music with lyrics for songs. If I mean,

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01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 1: if you had to have music playing during sex, like

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01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: at least make it an instrumental. What about like Rocket

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01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: by Beyonce like that. Here's the thing. Even that are

1678
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 1: like explicitly sexual, it's like, come let me. Maybe I

1679
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: don't want to feel that right now. I like the

1680
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 1: third or fourth time that Henry and I hooked up,

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01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 1: like when we first started dating. Oh my god, we

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01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 1: actually like on accident one plus one by Beyonce came

1683
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 1: on and it ended so much to where it was

1684
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 1: like I think and both of our minds were like this.

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01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:41,799
Speaker 1: You know why because when you're playing music that's basically

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01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 1: a threesome with that artist, you're having a threesome. Wow,

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01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 1: that's are always badimes. I've never very bad. I never

1688
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 1: had a free Really. I bet you've done threes I have. Yeah,

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01:29:55,560 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 1: I've had a few, but not with music Gallatin. That

1690
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 1: would get a question. I would I would go back

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01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 1: to Galaton and study threesomes. I would go back. You

1692
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: would be welcomed with open. I don't know you guys.

1693
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 1: I think we're all disagreeing about this music thing. I

1694
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:16,640
Speaker 1: think I'm in between the two of you. That's what

1695
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, what music would you play? Um? What

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01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 1: would you say? Okay? Let me? I truly this is

1697
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: pulling out the phone. This is my very basic fun

1698
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 1: playlist that I have not ever used like an actual

1699
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 1: I think mine's on iTunes and like it's it's like

1700
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: it's not. Hold on. Maybe I deleted it because I

1701
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 1: was fully fully ashamed of it. Hold on, hold on

1702
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 1: to my I did it because my phone, my phone

1703
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 1: data was full and I can't figure out how to

1704
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 1: this is? This is, this is so old. I have

1705
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 1: like I have songs from like the very first XX album,

1706
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 1: so maybe that's in between lyrical and in general. Yes, yes,

1707
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:58,799
Speaker 1: I have like this is so bad. I have Marvin

1708
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 1: gay please day, Um, I have Dr Dre Explosive. I

1709
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 1: have but do you see that the oral changes a

1710
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:18,680
Speaker 1: you are a algae are insane too much like you

1711
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: need someone there to orchestrate it? Then you know, I

1712
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 1: mean totally can you having Marvin Gay on there is

1713
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 1: very first thought? I'm saying, this is very first thought.

1714
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:29,680
Speaker 1: Can I just read someone so bad? I have uh

1715
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 1: b J the Chicago Kid. I have, UM, I have

1716
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:37,679
Speaker 1: No Sleep by Janet Jackson. I have Hello by Erica Badou.

1717
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 1: I have um Bliss I remember I carry off Rainbow

1718
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:43,679
Speaker 1: and then like that's and I like Frank Ocean stuff

1719
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 1: and that's okay. I mean the first song that I

1720
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 1: saw in mine was Tambourine by Eve, which is shake

1721
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 1: your tambourine one yourself and which is this is not

1722
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 1: for section. So I clearly made this one. I was three,

1723
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 1: and you refused to reveal anything else. Just I just

1724
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 1: I just embarrassed myself to so many people. I mean,

1725
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 1: this actually actually isn't the playlist because I believe it

1726
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 1: might just be at home on my on my iTunes,

1727
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 1: like because because I don't know local file like but

1728
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 1: follow me on and I will be posting because I

1729
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 1: was like too nervous. Of course that moment of name

1730
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 1: that's another like like humiliation of naming a playlist. Wait,

1731
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 1: that's so real, Like what if someone reads my playlist title?

1732
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 1: One of mine is called inspired in all caps, and

1733
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: I have my famous one is called Classic Diva whichever

1734
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:40,360
Speaker 1: one should? What makes a good playlist title? You think

1735
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 1: that that is outwardly like cool? You have to just

1736
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 1: not give a ship, just literally not care, just like

1737
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 1: fuck exactly. I have one called Now and like, I

1738
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:59,799
Speaker 1: don't know, it's like not so vulnerable, are so vulnerable,

1739
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 1: but they're just so performative. Nobody looks at that. No, honestly,

1740
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 1: whenever anyone somehow I don't think so honey, people who

1741
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 1: somehow fine what I'm listening to on Spotify and like

1742
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 1: shot of it. I'm like, get out of my life. Literally,

1743
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 1: I've been doing this thing where I do post my

1744
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 1: playlists on my story. Is that a little? Is that

1745
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 1: a thing? But no, do you guys think it's a

1746
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 1: thing where it's like I think it might be a

1747
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 1: degree of like I want to show people how cool

1748
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 1: I am. Yeah, for sure, that's healthy. That's healthy. That's

1749
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 1: a sign of a healthy psyche like like, that's basically

1750
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:43,719
Speaker 1: the same thing as new post alert, new playlist. No, no, no, no, no,

1751
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 1: it's it's disgusting, I know, honest, be honest, be honest,

1752
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 1: No new playlist because you've cultivated You're not a musician.

1753
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: You're not making the music. Yes, you're saying, which is

1754
01:33:56,479 --> 01:34:00,040
Speaker 1: even worse. It's even why it's different. You're sharing something

1755
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 1: that you cultivated, and it's not a new post alert,

1756
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 1: which is you hiring someone to take a hot photo

1757
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 1: of you. And it's which is also noble and beautiful, gorgeous,

1758
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 1: and we need you for the economy. Thank you, Never forget,

1759
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 1: never forget if you want to stop this whole thing

1760
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 1: with crumble exactly right. Um, I loved this. This is

1761
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 1: very good. It gave me the tingles, give me the

1762
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 1: tangles and Joe gives us the tingles. I mean, clearly, okay, um,

1763
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 1: oh my god, please check out get real. We Matt

1764
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 1: and I've both done it with Max Worder. He's They're

1765
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 1: both so fucking funny. I watched them and I'm like,

1766
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 1: this is this is all I want to see and

1767
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:41,800
Speaker 1: it can be all you ever say, can be all

1768
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 1: you ever see. So um, check them out every month

1769
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 1: at the spectacle or at a rotating venue every now

1770
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 1: and then. What is the last thing you want to

1771
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:52,799
Speaker 1: say for right now to the last culture Just listeners

1772
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:54,600
Speaker 1: because you'll be back. But what do you need to

1773
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 1: say to them that they that they need to know?

1774
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,560
Speaker 1: As a Gallatin School of inewl at the end of

1775
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:04,600
Speaker 1: all your studies, after everything I learned at Gallatin, I

1776
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:10,799
Speaker 1: would say, you know, let go, let go, let yourself,

1777
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 1: find go, go yourself, and then go wow, let go

1778
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 1: of yourself fine, and then let go and then go

1779
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 1: and then and then go beautiful two later and why

1780
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 1: you thank you so much, thank you n y u

1781
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 1: and thank you so much, and thank you so much.

1782
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 1: And that reminds us of a song that we're going

1783
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:41,679
Speaker 1: to finish as we finished with every song. Every episode

1784
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 1: we finished with the song thank You next thank You.

1785
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for my school. Bye. This has been

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01:35:56,760 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 1: a Forever Dog production executive produced by Brett bow Him,

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01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:05,360
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