Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm expecting. I'm making preparations for mine, for myself
Speaker 1: to just die in about five days time. I always
Speaker 1: limp into the holiday party and then once it's over,
Speaker 1: I just like go home and crawling to bed. I
Speaker 1: don't know what kind of cold open you want. You
Speaker 1: got a cold We've got a cold open. So this
Speaker 1: is usually we do a cold open, and this time
Speaker 1: we're just doing an open where we talk about miles
Speaker 1: as cold because it's ah, I hear, folks.
Speaker 2: That's why on Friday when we recorded that other year
Speaker 2: end one, I was like I could feel it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm naisily something happening? Yeah, you always
Speaker 1: know before I get hit by. I'm like the guy
Speaker 1: in the tsunami video who just like walks towards it
Speaker 1: with the job look of curiosity on where does Sherlocke go?
Speaker 1: What's happening?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Wait, all of water? I've never seen one of those
Speaker 1: away what are you doing? I mean so what? There's
Speaker 1: one version of it where he's just like so dumb
Speaker 1: and it's just like wow, It's like the nature equivalent
Speaker 1: of like the rattling of keys. But the other version
Speaker 1: is just like he knows what's happening, and he's like, well,
Speaker 1: I might as well, just like fucking are you.
Speaker 2: Trying to do that thing when you're when you're like surfing,
Speaker 2: you're trying to get like past.
Speaker 1: The break that would have been right over it. I
Speaker 1: just jump over it.
Speaker 2: Oh I ducked ove, right, I ducked dove right under
Speaker 2: the fucking tsunami wave.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hello the Internet, and welcome to this week friend edition.
Speaker 1: Of Yeah all mile happened. We always limp in into
Speaker 1: the holidays. At least one of us is usually sick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you you latin on your You would be on
Speaker 1: your ass. This cold would have put you on your
Speaker 1: ass if you didn't have something going on with your back,
Speaker 1: which which down. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But you know what I have to suffer for for
Speaker 2: the art, the art exactly.
Speaker 1: You know that for you, the audience. I blame you,
Speaker 1: the audience.
Speaker 2: Oh I don't. I don't there, you don't. No, They're
Speaker 2: the solution to all of my problems. So please be
Speaker 2: kind and don't say sound like shit. I'm trying, both guys,
Speaker 2: sounds like ship. Yeah, dude, terrible fucking sinus cold like
Speaker 2: I've never had. I've never had anything like this. Usually
Speaker 2: I don't get like sinus colds, but this was like,
Speaker 2: really I felt like those commercials where the guy's head
Speaker 2: isn't a vice. Oh yeah yeah, And then got into
Speaker 2: like arguments with like, uh, pharmacist to be like I
Speaker 2: just need the stuff with pseudo fedrin, and they're like,
Speaker 2: we can't sell that to you right now. The pharmacy
Speaker 2: isn't technically desperate, bro. I'm like, you are the pharmacy,
Speaker 2: but like, no, the actual pharmacy because it's a control
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm not a smurf out here trying
Speaker 2: to fucking make frings blue, So just let me get
Speaker 2: the pseudo and fucking make my way.
Speaker 1: Is that a is smurf a word for people who
Speaker 1: do math or you just was in blue?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean that's what they call them in Breaking Bad
Speaker 2: in the first season when they had to go send
Speaker 2: all the junkies to different pharmacies to get pseudo a
Speaker 2: fedrian to make meth, They're like, just get some smurfs
Speaker 2: to go nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, all right, well you are gonna hopefully get
Speaker 1: some rests, get some sleep. We're gonna do a quick
Speaker 1: check in with what was trying to go over the weekend. First,
Speaker 1: we like to let you get to know us a
Speaker 1: little bit better, get to know each other a little
Speaker 1: bit better. Yeah, by doing some trust falls and in
Speaker 1: this case, telling each other what's something we think is underrated? Overrated? Uh,
Speaker 1: you want me to go first, give you a little
Speaker 1: break first, you want to go first? All right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's what are you doing under under dude?
Speaker 2: The two thousand and four holiday movies Surviving Christmas starring
Speaker 2: Ben Affleck, James Gandolfini, Catherine O'Hara, and Christina Applegate. Wow
Speaker 2: have you heard of this? I've heard this. I've totally
Speaker 2: missed it.
Speaker 1: It like just falls into the same category as Christmas
Speaker 1: with the Cranks, the Family Stone Right, there's like those
Speaker 1: ensemble Christmas movies that I think there's a Vince Vaughn one,
Speaker 1: like five.
Speaker 2: Chris Christmas with Reese Witherspoon.
Speaker 1: Sorry to give him an extra Christmas basically yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean it's so secret why Van Vaught only made.
Speaker 1: It to three Christmas?
Speaker 2: No secret. But this movie, like it was one of
Speaker 2: those two thousand and four is an interesting time because
Speaker 2: this is like my what sophomore year of college, so
Speaker 2: I'm like deep into being off mainstream media. Like I'm
Speaker 2: only watching like deep cut foreign movies, you know, thinking
Speaker 2: you're deep in shit. So when this movie came out,
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna go fucking see this nonsense.
Speaker 1: I still haven't seen every ingmar Bergman movie. Okay, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: And this weekend we were looking for a movie, like
Speaker 2: a holiday movie, and I was like, and there are
Speaker 2: I go into every holiday movie and like it's gonna
Speaker 2: be bad, So fuck it, let's watch this one.
Speaker 1: This thing is so fucking bad it I thought I
Speaker 1: thought it was so good.
Speaker 2: No, like it's underrated in that Like I'm telling everyone
Speaker 2: to see it because it's gonna fuck your head up
Speaker 2: because James Gandalfini is basically playing Tony soprano and he's
Speaker 2: married to Catherine O'Hara, and like it's such a that
Speaker 2: duo in your mind that was already fucking me up.
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, Gandalfini's doing Tony and Catherine O'Hara's is
Speaker 2: Catherine o'haring it up? Ben Afflex Perform. It's about a
Speaker 2: millionaire who wants to like recapture his like you know,
Speaker 2: lack of love childhood Christmas so he just goes to
Speaker 2: his childhood home and pays this family like a quarter
Speaker 2: million dollars just to play pretend for a few days.
Speaker 2: And ben Affleck's character, like his four millionaire is Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's manic. I've never seen Ben Affleck perform like this,
Speaker 2: and it's cartoonish. The script is so bad, You're like,
Speaker 2: how could this have been greenlit? But it's like a
Speaker 2: treat because I'm like everyone like I like, individually Catherine
Speaker 2: O'Hara and James Gandelfini. So it's really fun to watch
Speaker 2: them in this thing with a script that has gone
Speaker 2: completely off the rails.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So I can't recommend it enough because it just seems
Speaker 2: like it's just so obscure but has the payoff of
Speaker 2: being really a fucking head scratcher in terms of how
Speaker 2: bad it is.
Speaker 1: Well, we now have we always do our year end
Speaker 1: holiday party with a bad Christmas movie. Oh, throw that
Speaker 1: on the background. We're I think it's I think this
Speaker 1: is going to be our background Christmas movie Surviving Christmas,
Speaker 1: which the like horror genre has to be pissed that
Speaker 1: they got to the movie title Surviving Christmas.
Speaker 2: Burder Are you are you looking it up right? Now
Speaker 2: you check out that Rotten Tomato score.
Speaker 1: I didn't look at the Rotten Tomatoes. There's a Wikipedia
Speaker 1: check out.
Speaker 2: Just google it so you can see what the baseline,
Speaker 2: like critical reception was of this film.
Speaker 1: We're at a eight. Wow, A wealthy executive Drew Latham
Speaker 1: has no close relations and becomes nostalgic for his childhood home.
Speaker 1: So it's just like he just goes to his home.
Speaker 2: He goes to his home, and I don't even want
Speaker 2: to reveal stuff because you're like, what the From the beginning,
Speaker 2: you're just like, what the fuck is this movie? Like
Speaker 2: what is happening? Is what I kept saying to myself
Speaker 2: as I watched it. So, yeah, check it out. It's
Speaker 2: not it will like it's it will not disappoint because
Speaker 2: you're going to go into it expecting to see like
Speaker 2: a fever dream of like this era. I think that
Speaker 2: like two thousand, like that right after nine to eleven
Speaker 2: to two thousand and five, like era of movies.
Speaker 1: There's just a lot of weird we all lost our minds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the nation had lost his mind exactly. Yeah, check it out.
Speaker 1: I'm going to and you're sure this is Yeah. I
Speaker 1: did look up the Wikipedia first, just to make sure
Speaker 1: it wasn't a fever dream that you had you had
Speaker 1: been happening because you have a fever. Stephen Rood is
Speaker 1: in it, Brian the Editor points out, So it can't
Speaker 1: be all bad, all right, I got two underrated one
Speaker 1: just ship that lasts. First of all, still wearing my
Speaker 1: tuxedo I got married in sixteen years ago. It's been tailored.
Speaker 1: I wear it every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in case people are wondering, Yeah, we spend a
Speaker 2: lot of money in post to digitally take the toxedo
Speaker 2: off for the video episodes.
Speaker 1: But it's been tailored like three times and it's still
Speaker 1: hanging around. I also have this Christmas lights necklace that
Speaker 1: we got at a drive in movie theater, like during
Speaker 1: the pandemic. Remember when like that was just the thing
Speaker 1: to do, was like go to drive in movie theaters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they were selling Christmas ways of the Ancients Christmas
Speaker 1: light necklaces. I got one, the sort of thing that
Speaker 1: you would expect to be broken by the end of
Speaker 1: the movie. We're five years later. That shit is still
Speaker 1: lighting up a stab bring it out every Christmas. It's
Speaker 1: but I think I just want to recommend Christmas light
Speaker 1: necklaces are that They're just the easiest way to be Like,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to a holiday party. I'm dressed normally
Speaker 1: and now I'm going to a holiday party and I
Speaker 1: have a holiday cheer. People really seem to enjoy it.
Speaker 2: This human sacrifice graphic T shirt doesn't feel Christmas enough?
Speaker 1: What about now? Okay? What about now? Baby? Oh? I
Speaker 1: love the Christmas light that Wow, everybody says that word
Speaker 1: for word if someone setting a manger on fire on
Speaker 1: your teeth, Hey, but the manger is there. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: also want to shout out the historic significance of Limp Biscuits.
Speaker 1: Just one of those days. Wow. I encountered this song
Speaker 1: over the weekend and it started like playing in my brain.
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 2: That's a guitar bar?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: Just those days and I was just thinking about it,
Speaker 1: like Limp Biscuit as it relates to rage, like rage
Speaker 1: against the machine dropped killing in the name in ninety two.
Speaker 1: Limp Biscuits first album came out in ninety seven, and
Speaker 1: I feel like they just filtered out the class consciousness
Speaker 1: of rage and like just like in this song, Fred
Speaker 1: Durst is mad because well, as you might remember, it's
Speaker 1: just one of those days where wait, like it's like
Speaker 1: a song about being grumpy and waking up on the
Speaker 1: wrong side of the bed. He does specifically says like
Speaker 1: in case you're hoping to get any sort of articulate
Speaker 1: analysis of where the anger is coming from in his generation,
Speaker 1: he specifically says, you don't really know why, but you
Speaker 1: want to justify someone's head off, like specifically removing any
Speaker 1: explanation any cause there's also like the refrain it's all
Speaker 1: about that he said, she said bullshit. So it's just
Speaker 1: like any attempt to analyze why people are angry is
Speaker 1: just he said, she said bullshit. It's just all meaningless,
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, it just like taps into this
Speaker 1: dissatisfaction that was like made fashionable and like potent to
Speaker 1: buy rage against the machine and then is like, hey,
Speaker 1: white guys, you can feel it too, and you know,
Speaker 1: just try it on without any any sort.
Speaker 2: Of I just yeah, almost, it feels like this is
Speaker 2: the like you say, it's it's like rages down Rodeo
Speaker 2: with no class consciousness at all. Generally, it's like yo,
Speaker 2: you're like down Rodeo. We know what's we know what's
Speaker 2: going on with down Rodeo.
Speaker 1: This one. I just love.
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at genius, at the lyrics, and again
Speaker 2: Limp Biscuit doesn't need a genie, they needs no genius.
Speaker 1: Anal it says, especially that looking up Limp Biscuit lyrics
Speaker 1: on Genius is just a funny thing. It's just actually
Speaker 1: just break the website. This is way more entertaining because
Speaker 1: again that course.
Speaker 3: All about that he said, she said, bullshit, I did
Speaker 3: you better letting ship slip or you'll be leaving with
Speaker 3: a fat.
Speaker 2: Lip that fat Okay, all right, here's that annotation. He
Speaker 2: suggests the person he's talking about should basically keep their
Speaker 2: mouth shut and quit gossiping or talking shit or he's
Speaker 2: going to punch you in the face.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, And didn't figure it out, so shout
Speaker 1: out to Olympus. I feel like maybe in the you know,
Speaker 1: trajectory of America's descented to fascism, like they will be
Speaker 1: an early kind of symbol that people could have been like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's because that is like, you know, fascism's
Speaker 1: playbook is take the you know, esthetics of leftist and
Speaker 1: like progressive policy and politics, and you know, take the
Speaker 1: anger and then just remove any of the content, any
Speaker 1: of the meaning and just like put it in the
Speaker 1: name of reactionary bullshit. So hell yeah, dog, and that's
Speaker 1: kind of cool, and that's kind of cool.
Speaker 2: I'm off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't watch the documentary about woodstockumentary, but I'm assuming,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming they talk about some of this stuff. Dude.
Speaker 1: It's vile.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole thing, front to back, from just the
Speaker 2: capitalist gouging to the lack of safety, all of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty interesting though, right, It does feel like half
Speaker 1: the artists.
Speaker 2: They talked to just seemed deeply traumatized by even from
Speaker 2: performing there.
Speaker 1: Damn. Yeah, even Fred. I'm sure they talked to Fred, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't remember, they must have, but I just
Speaker 2: remember fat Boy Slim was like shook.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like the most evil like that. It that
Speaker 1: was an early sign that we just ignored. Yeah, Brian
Speaker 1: points out it it is kind of in the same
Speaker 1: family as like fight Club Matrix office Space, where it
Speaker 1: like taps into this dissatisfied white guy energy of the
Speaker 1: late nineties. But yeah, they and like in office space,
Speaker 1: like remember that opens with a white guy like listening
Speaker 1: to gangster rap, like listening to rap music that has
Speaker 1: like the energy and is like actually coming from a
Speaker 1: place of like, you know, suffering and you know, class consciousness,
Speaker 1: and he's just like appropriating it and he and he's
Speaker 1: like using the anger to get mad at fucking photo
Speaker 1: copy machines.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, that was so fucking good.
Speaker 1: Dude, what a time to be alive. Yeah, what's something, Miles?
Speaker 1: Do you think it is overrated? Uh?
Speaker 2: The the way fathers abandoned their families in the modern era,
Speaker 2: now stick with me here again. In watching for Surviving Christmas,
Speaker 2: there's this like there's a trope I forgot that we
Speaker 2: don't really they don't really use in TV and film anymore,
Speaker 2: which is Ben Affleck's talking about his sad child and
Speaker 2: goes and my dad walked out on our family Christmas morning,
Speaker 2: and I just like set me in a time machine.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what happened to that?
Speaker 2: That used to be so standard in like fucked up backstories,
Speaker 2: Like I remember it was Thanksgiving, my dad went out
Speaker 2: for turkey or cranberry sauce and never came back. Like
Speaker 2: that whole thing of just fully phantom ghosting. Now there
Speaker 2: are people now. I think most men just do it
Speaker 2: very gradually. By gradually emotionally detaching from their families in
Speaker 2: a way that they're physically there but maybe emotionally gone.
Speaker 2: But this I've just like laughed so hard thinking about,
Speaker 2: like that was so normal like whatever that Like I
Speaker 2: don't know, like the few times that came out as
Speaker 2: like a trope in a film, it just sort of
Speaker 2: became this way to always be like, yeah, dad went
Speaker 2: out for cigarettes. Like that whole thing. We've we've we've
Speaker 2: moved on, we've evolved past that.
Speaker 1: Christmas or Thanksgiving is definitely them getting out there like
Speaker 1: inner dramatic queen, like why why do it on such
Speaker 1: and such a such an really make a point out
Speaker 1: of here? Fuck you?
Speaker 2: Then I should maybe they could have done it last
Speaker 2: night or I don't know at the moment I realized
Speaker 2: I could have, you know, spoken and my partner, But yeah,
Speaker 2: I just love the we don't walk out on our
Speaker 2: families on Christmas anymore, I know, speak for yourself.
Speaker 1: But the the Gremlins, uh story where her dad leaves
Speaker 1: because he like she thinks he's left the family and
Speaker 1: then they start smelling something coming out of the chimney
Speaker 1: that is up like permanently in my brain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh that that scar had healed for me, but
Speaker 2: you reopened it.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm here for. Also, the the other two,
Speaker 1: the way their dad died. Oh wait, how did their
Speaker 1: dad die? Another two got drunk on the roof during
Speaker 1: Christmas and like it froze to death.
Speaker 2: I think, mister yeah, rough rough one.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, my overrated like kind of the blood
Speaker 1: lists begrudging treatment of progressive ideas in mainstream culture. I was,
Speaker 1: I was watching this NFL game and uh there was Lions,
Speaker 1: bills all that. Josh Allen, Man, what you see from
Speaker 1: a different planet. This guy's incredible. What happened was that?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 2: Is that the game where the guy fucking fumbled the
Speaker 2: ball at the goal line? Again, I just saw a
Speaker 2: clip of another Like, I don't know how NFL players
Speaker 2: keep dropping the ball before it breaks the plane for
Speaker 2: a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do it, sorry, because they're it's the it's
Speaker 1: the NFL player. It's the NFL player equivalent of a
Speaker 1: leaving on Christmas. You know, just wait for the rest
Speaker 1: dramatic moment. And I respect black. Yeah, I leveled the
Speaker 1: bag on Christmas morning. But so I was watching the
Speaker 1: game and at one point they get back from commercials,
Speaker 1: which still the only thing my six year old wants
Speaker 1: to watch. He comes over and watches the commercials because
Speaker 1: and like I get it, like seeing it through his eyes.
Speaker 1: They are like these three million dollar like short films,
Speaker 1: like you know, no expense spared on the commercials. They're like,
Speaker 1: you know, getting filmmakers to tell stories. They you know,
Speaker 1: are analyzed and poured it over and.
Speaker 2: Then a lot of instances paid, like actors are paid
Speaker 2: better to be in a commercial than they are in
Speaker 2: a movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, so And then we get back and
Speaker 1: we have the announcer just like read through this copy
Speaker 1: chunk with zero intonation. I actually, like, I was so
Speaker 1: struck by it that I actually went back and uh
Speaker 1: like wrote it down word for word. Okay, Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: like talking about this wide receivers having a great game.
Speaker 1: He was like on the Lions and now he's come
Speaker 1: back to haunt them because they he's now on the
Speaker 1: Bills and the Bills are kicking the shit out of
Speaker 1: the Lions, and uh he's like, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: tell you about it right after this. Well. The NFL
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Speaker 1: back to the game, and like the energy of like
Speaker 1: back to the game is like, oh, all right, we
Speaker 1: got that bullshit over the fuck, you know, like just
Speaker 1: like reading through the unpleasant side effects at the end
Speaker 1: of the medicine commercial is like the energy that they
Speaker 1: give to this. They don't even say the person's name,
Speaker 1: like they they show a quick cutaway to a woman
Speaker 1: holding an oversized like ceremonial check for ten thousand dollars
Speaker 1: made out to like Detroit Public schools, But they don't
Speaker 1: even like tell the story or anything. It's just fucking
Speaker 1: boilerplate copy that they're reading to get it out of
Speaker 1: the way. And it's just like, of course social justice
Speaker 1: is going to like to like fucking teenagers and adolescents
Speaker 1: and shit like that. Like they they're all like this
Speaker 1: is actually bullshit, dude, Like they they're just forced to
Speaker 1: read this shit because of course it's like treated by
Speaker 1: the people who make the ship they watch as like
Speaker 1: bad vegetables. They need to like force down our throat
Speaker 1: before we can have fun again.
Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah, it feels like such transparent, like
Speaker 2: they have to generate moral cover because the NFL is
Speaker 2: already you know, questionable league in terms of how like
Speaker 2: players end up and it's treatment of players and all
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So they're probably like, all right.
Speaker 2: Do the oversized check thing and we can go to
Speaker 2: sleep one more night. Yeah, I get like they don't,
Speaker 2: like I feel I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know how conscious it is or if it's
Speaker 1: just like because it's not profitable, it just gets so
Speaker 1: much less attention, and they're just like we have to
Speaker 1: like fucking say this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in this era of such like backlash to anything
Speaker 2: quote woke, we're surprised they're still even doing it, you know,
Speaker 2: because it feels like so many, so many institutions and
Speaker 2: companies have completely abandoned like any idea or any notion
Speaker 2: that they like it was something that they should be
Speaker 2: doing as like a major force in culture.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well they're certainly like getting it sup less
Speaker 1: and less energy because yeah, and it's just like this
Speaker 1: is of course why social justice movements fizzle in America,
Speaker 1: Like in a market driven world, like the people who
Speaker 1: make the decision of what's profitable will just pay lip
Speaker 1: service to it in a way that basically has unimplied
Speaker 1: jacking off hand motion like the whole time they're doing it,
Speaker 1: Like it's like, I feel like it's more damaging to
Speaker 1: do what they're doing than nothing at all when you
Speaker 1: do what you're doing. They're Yeah, it implies that it's
Speaker 1: like a thing that they're in on which they suck.
Speaker 1: So like everybody nobody like thinks that nobody is thinking
Speaker 1: this is cool. Like everybody's like, uh, like they're like
Speaker 1: trying to brainwash us because they sound like they're fucking
Speaker 1: brainwashed as they're reading it because they're giving it absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was. I really believed in the NFL
Speaker 1: too well, Like I heard it on like a radio
Speaker 1: like spot where like somebody like gave just a brief
Speaker 1: nod to a event that had happened in black history
Speaker 1: that day, but like just such a cursory like mention
Speaker 1: moving on, And I'm just like noticing it everywhere that
Speaker 1: they feel like they have to do it, but they're
Speaker 1: doing it like begrudgingly, and so the whole thing just
Speaker 1: feels like, Yeah, I just can see the adolescent from
Speaker 1: boy mind being like this is actually not cool, Like
Speaker 1: they're just trying to fucking trick me. Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like the community d service project for
Speaker 2: like a teenager who has caught graffitiing like racist stuff
Speaker 2: on a wall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like and now you got to read this.
Speaker 1: It's got their energy. Yeah, it's like, fucking.
Speaker 2: Dare I have to because I'm fucking up right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's uh, let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll get into some of the news. These fucking
Speaker 1: drones won't leave me alone. Man, We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back. We're back, And actually I do wanna Brian,
Speaker 1: do you have your mic on? Yeah, I'm here, all right,
Speaker 1: So I just want, like, I don't I don't need
Speaker 1: you to weigh in any specific moment, but I am
Speaker 1: just curious to hear your thoughts on this because I
Speaker 1: am hearing from a lot of people, like I gave
Speaker 1: my take on this last week, that there are a
Speaker 1: ton of drones out there now. Brian the editor is
Speaker 1: the proud owner of a drone. You know, I talked
Speaker 1: about seeing this like drone display at a ski resort
Speaker 1: that was like mind boggling and but also like it did,
Speaker 1: but they were like doing like they it like turned
Speaker 1: into a jag in at one part, like they do
Speaker 1: that a lot in China. They have like huge ones,
Speaker 1: but like this was not like this was Big Bear,
Speaker 1: which is like, you know, just a you know, very
Speaker 1: normal like ski area. They're not. It's not like a
Speaker 1: high tech like energy at all, but like they were
Speaker 1: able to like program this kind of impressive show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've seen like really impressive like drone stuff, and so
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to like get my head around what
Speaker 1: are people seeing that is so much more impressive. They're like, well,
Speaker 1: it couldn't be like what you know, people, because there's
Speaker 1: so many of them. It's like I've seen like fife
Speaker 1: drones like operating together as one like that. I feel
Speaker 1: like if somebody put that array above New Jersey right now,
Speaker 1: everybody would fucking lose their minds, like because you know,
Speaker 1: like it's I don't quite understand how this has like
Speaker 1: it's only growing, and I don't know if it's just
Speaker 1: if I'm missing something or if the country just like
Speaker 1: badly needs something to like have a little hysteria about
Speaker 1: that is that allows them to be like distracted from reality. Well,
Speaker 1: there is something special about drones.
Speaker 3: Drones are in my experience, there's certain types of people
Speaker 3: who are just triggered by the sight of a drone
Speaker 3: and they immediately get upset, Like, yeah, I remember, what's
Speaker 3: that neighborhood app kill it?
Speaker 1: What's that app for? Like neighborhoods where you can like,
Speaker 1: you know, knock on people when.
Speaker 2: Stuff citizen next door next door?
Speaker 3: So I remember arguing with someone on next door who
Speaker 3: is convinced that a drone was spying on her in
Speaker 3: her house. Yeah, and I had to carefully explain to
Speaker 3: her how cameras work and how that's there's that's not
Speaker 3: a thing.
Speaker 1: Right through my roof like that, Like, she said that,
Speaker 1: like there.
Speaker 3: Was a drone spying on her kids in her backyard,
Speaker 3: and I'm like.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure no one cares about
Speaker 1: your dumb kids in your backyard.
Speaker 3: I mean, but yeah, it's just like something about a
Speaker 3: drone that upsets certain types of people when they see it,
Speaker 3: And I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so people don't like seeing drones. They're suddenly
Speaker 1: seeing a lot more of them that this has continued
Speaker 1: to grow over the weekend. Marjorie Taylor Green has continued
Speaker 1: to make public statements claiming that the government is in
Speaker 1: control of the drones. Donald Trump suggested that the government
Speaker 1: needs to it that they're behind the drones or shoot
Speaker 1: them down. I just love the energy of this guy
Speaker 1: who's about to be the president, being like the government
Speaker 1: controls the drones.
Speaker 3: I haven't been following this story. Well, what kind of
Speaker 3: drones are people seeing? Are they seeing like predator drones?
Speaker 3: Are they seeing the kind you get it?
Speaker 1: They're saying that they're seeing drones that are as big
Speaker 1: as an suv flying through the air.
Speaker 2: Brian, so that who's on Reddit as much as you are.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you haven't seen all this drone ship because
Speaker 2: it don't follow American news.
Speaker 1: No, but it's in like it's on.
Speaker 2: I've seen it in so many subreddits right now people
Speaker 2: post him.
Speaker 3: Also, I'm also weaning myself off of Reddit. Good for
Speaker 3: your congratulations because it's mostly boxed. So after he leaves
Speaker 3: this episode, Miles, we'll have a discussion of why it
Speaker 3: seems like Brian thinks he's better than us.
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't know, man, I just know
Speaker 2: Brian has always been against me.
Speaker 1: The just maybe the out he's weeding himself.
Speaker 2: But it's like so many videos of like just like
Speaker 2: sometimes it has like the like green and red lights
Speaker 2: that I feel like, don't A lot of.
Speaker 1: Drones have these lights on them.
Speaker 3: Drone just for for the pilot, so that you know
Speaker 3: which orientation your drone is in. So usually I think
Speaker 3: the I think the red lights on the left, I
Speaker 3: can't remember, but it's just so you know which way
Speaker 3: your drone is pointing when you're flying it.
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, their SUV size, that sounds like some government shit.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know what that is. But
Speaker 1: like how good are people at judging the size of
Speaker 1: a drone? That's the other thing.
Speaker 3: It's like it's really hard to like, if you've ever
Speaker 3: seen you know, you guys live in LA you've seen
Speaker 3: helicopters strafing your house, I'm sure it's hard to tell
Speaker 3: how many hundred feet they are in the air, supposed
Speaker 3: to be about four hundred, but you can swear sometimes this.
Speaker 1: Is my argument. Yeah, the like you think they're either
Speaker 1: closer further away, you think they're a different size than
Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, if you don't know what it is
Speaker 1: you're looking at. It's really hard to tell. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think there's three potential things happening. One, it's just
Speaker 2: fucking drones. People are tripping and it's now causing other
Speaker 2: people to fly their drones to sort of cut like
Speaker 2: cash in on like the sort of excitement around seeing
Speaker 2: this shit in the sky. Two there it's aliens and
Speaker 2: they're not telling us.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Or three this is an op so people stop talking
Speaker 2: about Luigi Mangoni.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, yeah, I mean and look at us. We've
Speaker 1: opened our Monday Morning Trends episodes for the past two
Speaker 1: weeks talking about.
Speaker 2: Look at this Google search curve right here. The drones
Speaker 2: are blue, Luigi Mangoni's red. Yeah, it shot up. December
Speaker 2: tenth is the same.
Speaker 1: It's weird.
Speaker 2: The December tenth there was a simultaneous huge drop off
Speaker 2: in interest, maybe because he was caught, and then that's
Speaker 2: like began like a very sort of sharp.
Speaker 1: Rise in drone searches. So I don't wait, I'm just
Speaker 1: for Luigi MANGIONI searches before he was caught.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think on the day like like
Speaker 2: when the name came out, like when the name came
Speaker 2: out again, this is. But what I do see is
Speaker 2: like I think there's so much talk of the drones
Speaker 2: too that I don't know. I'm this is me with
Speaker 2: my tinfoil gum wrapperd.
Speaker 1: People just like don't want to think about the incoming administration,
Speaker 1: like so they're looking for a big story to like
Speaker 1: distract themselves with. But I also, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like one of the big videos that ABC News came
Speaker 1: through and was like ABC News camera crew investigate the
Speaker 1: drone uap UFO phenomenon. We have no idea what it is,
Speaker 1: and they're showing this like like I don't know. It
Speaker 1: looks like a crystal in the sky, kind of kind
Speaker 1: of dope looking, and basically everyone who looked at it
Speaker 1: and has some manner of expertise is like that that's Venus.
Speaker 1: That's the planet that is a you see, not the Razor.
Speaker 1: I know that was my first thought too, But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a apparently the Razor is named after a planet. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll buy that, And that's Earth's biggest brightest planet, uh
Speaker 1: currently you Like, I feel like it's the first thing
Speaker 1: you see at night once once the sun starts to
Speaker 1: go down.
Speaker 2: Like, well, this is the thing if it's a regular drone,
Speaker 2: Like there's a story about how like an air force
Speaker 2: base would like shut down for a second to like
Speaker 2: monitor the airspace, not like how do you I'd imagine
Speaker 2: if you were fucking around with a commercial drone, like
Speaker 2: they'd probably like there's probably a way to hold that
Speaker 2: person into account. But if it isn't, does that indicate
Speaker 2: that even the air force is like what the fuck
Speaker 2: is this?
Speaker 3: Well, here's the confusing thing to me about this is
Speaker 3: that commercial drones have to be registered, like information just
Speaker 3: spitting out of them constantly, and you can find out
Speaker 3: what the drone is, especially if you're like a military base,
Speaker 3: you can find out what it.
Speaker 1: Is and possibly who it belongs to.
Speaker 3: So it's like, I don't understand the confusion. Like if
Speaker 3: the government wants to know what's flying around in its airspace,
Speaker 3: they can find out.
Speaker 1: There shouldn't be any mystery.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what's that's I think that's the weird part.
Speaker 1: That's like attending like they don't know, yeah, or they're
Speaker 1: just doing the government thing of like we don't care
Speaker 1: to disclose that information at this time, and then you know,
Speaker 1: letting a mass hysteria.
Speaker 3: And like all the pictures I can find are either
Speaker 3: lights in the sky or they are clearly you know,
Speaker 3: like a Dji matrise or something like that, just like
Speaker 3: a big fucking commercial drone.
Speaker 1: Okay, and I know what a dji matrisas, but I'm
Speaker 1: glad you clarified that. For it's like what they move
Speaker 1: use on Like movies.
Speaker 3: If you've ever seen like an Netflix documentary, the opening
Speaker 3: shot is always a drone shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those swoops out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I I feel like the people
Speaker 1: being like they're just seeing radio towers and the planet
Speaker 1: Venus is like that going on, Yeah exactly that that
Speaker 1: feels like it's just a weather balloon type excuses, Like
Speaker 1: we can't copletally dismissive the drone hobbyist suddenly catching drone
Speaker 1: fever because like the like national and international news is
Speaker 1: suddenly all about drones and like they get to be
Speaker 1: a part of like this massive freak out like feels
Speaker 1: more logical to me, But I don't know, people. I
Speaker 1: just think people really want to believe right now.
Speaker 3: Also, like law enforcement has been using drones for uh,
Speaker 3: you know, surveillance, and you know kind of like what
Speaker 3: helicopters used to do. I don't know what they're doing
Speaker 3: in New Jersey, but I know that, you know, police
Speaker 3: departments have a ship ton of money that we give
Speaker 3: them and they spend it on goofy ass toys. So
Speaker 3: if anyone were to have a fleet of large drones,
Speaker 3: I would say it's the police or like firefighters or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes that also makes more sense.
Speaker 2: I just like the like last week, we're like, that's
Speaker 2: radio towers, and now it's just you know what something's up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, radio tower is flying around like it that doesn't
Speaker 3: make any sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's definitely.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's taking up a lot of energy and attention.
Speaker 1: And now, like I.
Speaker 2: Feel it wasn't I think Larry Hogan or one of
Speaker 2: the main governors of a state, like I.
Speaker 1: Saw him too. I've seen it. Yeah, all right, Larry Hogan.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. We'll we'll keep an eye on it,
Speaker 1: keep it. It seems like everybody will it. I am curious.
Speaker 1: This makes me want to go back and look at
Speaker 1: the Chinese weather balloon story because that was like everyone
Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, what's happening? And then I feel
Speaker 1: like we never really got closure on that. There's probably
Speaker 1: like a bunch of details on that that people just
Speaker 1: stopped paying attention to once no longer served them. Also,
Speaker 1: there's like six military bases in New Jersey, which is
Speaker 1: not a very big state, and I just really should
Speaker 1: know what this is. Maybe it's some sort of.
Speaker 3: Interagency miscommunication where one is doing a bunch of testing
Speaker 3: and the other ones don't know about it.
Speaker 1: Right, entirely possible. I mean that might be like a
Speaker 1: low That is one of the more popular skeptic explanations
Speaker 1: for what's going on with UAPs. Right, It's just like
Speaker 1: it's just.
Speaker 3: Drunes aren't rare. They're like you can get them at
Speaker 3: best Buy. Like, this isn't why people are any one can.
Speaker 1: Get one, This is this is my point, Brian, And
Speaker 1: you can, and somebody with a reasonable with a fireworks
Speaker 1: display budget can do wild shit like light up the
Speaker 1: sky and like, yeah, it's your brain if you if
Speaker 1: you aren't familiar with how drones can be like programmed
Speaker 1: with like to dance together. So yeah, I'm still highly
Speaker 1: skeptical of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm more skeptical skeptical because I want
Speaker 2: the aliens to do cooler shit than this, like if
Speaker 2: they're like, come on, bro, you got red and green lights?
Speaker 1: What the fuck is this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the people are so unimaginative when it
Speaker 3: comes to alien shit. It's like, Oh, they're gonna be
Speaker 3: humanoid shaped and they're gonna fly.
Speaker 1: Drums around it.
Speaker 3: It's just it's so stupid, Like have some imagination, everybody.
Speaker 3: Aliens can be a lot cooler than than what you
Speaker 3: could think of than us.
Speaker 2: They could be this podcast right now.
Speaker 1: Whoa, you didn't just do that drop, dude? That was
Speaker 1: like that just yawned. I just yawned. That's how you're yawns.
Speaker 1: There's also like I feel like the media is buying
Speaker 1: into it and like trying to select the information that
Speaker 1: is going to make this the most like intriguing like
Speaker 1: viral story. Like there's a newsweek article that is being
Speaker 1: linked as like one of the top drone or top
Speaker 1: drudge stories over the weekend, and like their primary source
Speaker 1: is just somebody in the drone industry who's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but I bet it's really
Speaker 1: important and cool. Like they like that's legit what he says,
Speaker 1: all right, important and cool. Yeah, So I don't know
Speaker 1: they also mentioned at the end, like and they changed
Speaker 1: like the FAA rules so that drones could fly at
Speaker 1: night back in September twenty twenty three. So this might
Speaker 1: just be the result of people realizing that all at
Speaker 1: once and flying a bunch of drunes at night.
Speaker 3: For years, you weren't able to There were a lot
Speaker 3: of restrictions and you need it like a license, special
Speaker 3: license to fly at night.
Speaker 1: But now it's just like open season. And yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's probably what's happening, Like that.
Speaker 3: You could you you weren't able to fly over people. Uh,
Speaker 3: you weren't able to know you can. You weren't able
Speaker 3: to fly over traffic, and now like.
Speaker 1: Drones are flying over people and people are like what
Speaker 1: the fuck. It's like, oh, they just changed a law.
Speaker 1: In the media.
Speaker 3: Instead, there might be a new LINU sight rule because
Speaker 3: you used to have to have clear line of sight
Speaker 3: to your drone. But now with all these companies trying
Speaker 3: to do like deliveries, it could be a company too
Speaker 3: of testing their fleet. I don't know, but like companies
Speaker 3: have a lobby to be able to fly without being
Speaker 3: able to see your drone physically so you can make
Speaker 3: deliveries and stuff.
Speaker 1: So it could be something like that too. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: like a Twitter thread that's going viral where a guy's like,
Speaker 1: let me explain what this is. I've like worked in this.
Speaker 1: It's there to measure like nuclear activity or something along
Speaker 1: those lines radiation.
Speaker 3: And I mean people use it in industry. They're everywhere
Speaker 3: like that. There's no need for alarm.
Speaker 1: But he yeah, like the thing that he's pointing, he
Speaker 1: makes it sound somewhat nefarious, and then is also like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, referencing. He's like in the big thing that
Speaker 1: you see that people keep referencing. It's like, take I
Speaker 1: need to see a picture of like this drone that
Speaker 1: is or like a video of this drone that is
Speaker 1: like of a type that we've never seen before, because
Speaker 1: otherwise it's just like I don't know, man, it sounds
Speaker 1: like drones. Like you're looking at anything that an SUV
Speaker 1: size drone. Yeah, all right, Well, thank you for joining
Speaker 1: us Brian to as our resident drone expert. We're gonna
Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll come back, we'll talk about
Speaker 1: some the news. We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back, and we are in the slow creep towards
Speaker 1: normalization and acceptance and bowing down kissing of the ring.
Speaker 1: We were in the Kissing of the Ring segment of
Speaker 1: the you Know Coming Trump administration. ABC News just settled
Speaker 1: a defamation case with him for fifteen million dollars. Fifteen
Speaker 1: million dollars. Why is that?
Speaker 2: Because on ABC George Stephanopolis said that he was referring
Speaker 2: to the Egen Carroll case where it said Trump was
Speaker 2: found liable for rape, and that's like that. I remember
Speaker 2: at the time he's like, I'm going to sue you
Speaker 2: for saying that, blah blah blah, like you shouldn't use
Speaker 2: that word. This like it at the time, like a
Speaker 2: thing where people are like ABC would probably win this
Speaker 2: case all said and done, like it. I mean, I
Speaker 2: the you know that we obviously understand this is Trump's
Speaker 2: like go to fucking lawsuit move all the time. But
Speaker 2: I think more than anything, because most people are like,
Speaker 2: well usually journalistic institutions, they stand by it and we'll
Speaker 2: go to trial just on principle this isn't happening, and
Speaker 2: they're like, here's.
Speaker 1: Fifteen dollars for your future.
Speaker 2: Libraryan museum and an I'm sorry note.
Speaker 1: Which I mean.
Speaker 2: This all just feels part of like what Trump has
Speaker 2: been saying, how he's like he's taming the media. This
Speaker 2: feels like that's what that is. It's just preemptive.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, we don't want to get into a
Speaker 2: lawsuit with someone who's about to be president who could
Speaker 2: maybe do something to us, and we're going to accept that.
Speaker 2: That's the world we live in, so we will just capitulate.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's the fourth estate, man, I'll take I'll
Speaker 2: take the I'll take fourth meal over the fourth estate.
Speaker 1: At this point, you know, they are in competition. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I always live moss for me. Maybe. There's also
Speaker 1: this article about how basically every important tech billionaire is
Speaker 1: donating at least a million dollars to his inauguration fund,
Speaker 1: Like Samuel Altman has, you know, donated a million dollars
Speaker 1: and said President Trump will lead our country into the
Speaker 1: age of AI and I'm eager to to sure America
Speaker 1: stays ahead. Yes, exactly. But you know Mark Zuckerberg, who
Speaker 1: used to be somebody who expressed concerns about Trump's immigration
Speaker 1: policies during his first presidency.
Speaker 2: Now look he's dressing like fucking Silicon Valley Jack Harlowe
Speaker 2: and shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and he met with Trump over dinner at
Speaker 1: mar a Lago, gifted him a pair of metas ray
Speaker 1: Band smart glasses. And then back to July, he was
Speaker 1: already sort of yes, exactly. Back in July, he was
Speaker 1: already starting to get on board. He said that Trump's
Speaker 1: reaction of raising his fist in the air after the
Speaker 1: assassination was one of the most badass things I've ever
Speaker 1: seen in my life.
Speaker 2: It would be the most badass thing you've ever seen
Speaker 2: in your life, for sure.
Speaker 1: So tight, dude. And then Jeff Bezos, you know, we
Speaker 1: saw what he did with the endorsement of the Washington Post.
Speaker 1: He's playing to meet with Trump at mar Lago next
Speaker 1: week or I think maybe this week. And at the
Speaker 1: New York Times deal book Summit. God, how did I
Speaker 1: miss that? Once again? Not invited were a deal book summit.
Speaker 1: We were banned. Yeah, well that's it wasn't an official band.
Speaker 1: It's just like they have my pictures at the entrances.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they said I'm banned because I kept using
Speaker 2: the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Too much, freaking everybody out. Yeah, well I had to
Speaker 1: pee a lot of coffee. But they said he appeared
Speaker 1: optimistic about the new administration and noted that Trump seems
Speaker 1: to have a lot of energy around reducing regulation and
Speaker 1: if I can help him do that, I'm going to
Speaker 1: help him because we do have too much regulation in
Speaker 1: this country. Oh my god, said the guy who's been
Speaker 1: able to make.
Speaker 2: Said Robert Baron Bezos. Okay, cool, there's one thing I
Speaker 2: do agree with. It's the guardrails to my extraction of wealth.
Speaker 1: Just there's too many of them. Please do away with them.
Speaker 1: The one thing that is not a problem in the
Speaker 1: United States, like, we gotta we gotta work on this. Guys,
Speaker 1: they're fucking with me. They're put too many, too much
Speaker 1: pushing back on what Amazon wants to do to our workers,
Speaker 1: and the world can't have that. All right, Well, Miles,
Speaker 1: I think you should go get some rest. Let's uh
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go lay down. Go do that and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: go lay down for a long period of time. Get
Speaker 1: some rest. We'll uh be back tomorrow with the whole
Speaker 1: ass episode the show. Until then, be kind to each other,
Speaker 1: be kind to yourself, get the vaccine, get a blue shot. Yes,
Speaker 1: don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk
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