1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Entitled dad demands we pay for his food. What he 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: did next was unforgivable. 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: Instead of eating the food, he ate my butt and. 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: He asked for dessert. Well, we won't tell you what kind. 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: I won't tell him, Riley. That's why you can't sign 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: me extra cream. All right, that's it, I promise. Rather, 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: that's strad drizzle, extra glazeish glaze. I forgot. Oh, thanks 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: for reminding me. 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: Got you're out of the woods, kid. 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 3: We're dragging you back, dragging that little sphincter deep. 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: Into the pines, gonna bury in the ground. Booty up. 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 3: Wild bears will come patrol and eat out your ass 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: because it'll be the only thing that'll be exposed to 14 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 3: the elements. 15 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: That is descriptive. Oh all right, boys, let's hear the story. 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: This mostly involves me thirty three, non binary, my wife 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: thirty six female, a former friend of mine, Aaron, forty 18 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: three female, and his son Ethan. 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: There's so much tea in that already, like a former friend, dude, 20 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: we're already getting tea, and it's the first sence. 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: It's about to go down. These are set across a 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: six or seven year period, and I have way too 23 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: many but consider this the greatest hits. Shortly after my 24 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: mom kicked me out at the age of seventeen the 25 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: day after Christmas. Don't worry, she'll have her own post. Eventually, 26 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: after crashing with my best friend's family, I moved into 27 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: my first place. It was an absolute slum, but was 28 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: only two hundred dollars a month. Utilities included. 29 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: Dude, I mean, how much of a slum we talk in? 30 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: Like? 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: Are we talking like a literal slum? 32 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: Dude? 33 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't there very long, but in that time I 34 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: had a couple of roommates. But eventually my girlfriend now 35 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: wife moved in. 36 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: Congrats. Op. 37 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: By chance, we met an old friend of mine who 38 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: had moved away. At the grocery. We catch up and 39 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: after a few pretty solid days of hanging out, he 40 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: introduces us to his friend group. One of these people 41 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: is Aaron. Aaron was a decade older than us, but 42 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: he was a big gamer. Love Dungeons and Dragons, comics, 43 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: fantasy novel, Star Wars, anime. 44 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 4: A decade older dude, that's probably what Jack feels about us. Yeah, yeah, 45 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: I have these friends that are a decade older than me, 46 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: but they're pretty cool. We have this friend who's like 47 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 4: a YouTuber and he's like nineteen, super super smart. But 48 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: we're just ancient, dude, ancient. We're ancient compared to We have. 49 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: To accept our place in the circle of life as 50 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: deceased at this point. Yeah, and Aaron was basically the 51 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: older brother of that friend group, who were a bunch 52 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: of twenty something nerds. My wife and I hit it 53 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: off with him really well. Despite my description of him, 54 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: he was a pretty charismatic guy. Well. After hanging out 55 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: for a few weeks, he'd mentioned that he was the 56 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: super of the building that we lived in. He was 57 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: in fact not the super of the building and his 58 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: parents owned the place. That was true. He let us 59 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: know that the apartment across the hall from him was 60 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: opening up soon, and we jumped at the opportunity to 61 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: get out of the hell hole we lived in. 62 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: The two hundred dollars hell hole. 63 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 4: The two hundred dollars one damn great price though, yeah right, 64 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 4: I really want to know what that looks like. 65 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: Same same. About a month later, we ended up as neighbors. 66 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: Things started out fine for the most part. Aaron was 67 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: recently divorced and his son Ethan, who was one of 68 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: the time lived with him full time. In the beginning, 69 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: he worked at the local KFC and he got free 70 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: rent from his parents. Pretty nice. All he needed to 71 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: pay was utilities. Well, for whatever reason I honestly can't recall, 72 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: he was let go from KFC. From that point on, 73 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: Aaron would not have a job for the next four years. 74 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: Damn chronically jobless out here. 75 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: Damn. 76 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 4: It's not like he was looking for like something crazy. 77 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 4: He was working at KFC. Like, there's a lot of 78 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: jobs like working at KFC that are out and so 79 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: it's not like that's like a job that's rare. That's true, right, 80 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 4: there should be something for our man out there, unless 81 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: he just sucks at making that chicken. 82 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: Or he's too loyal, he's like long John Silver's taco bell. 83 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: Get out of my face. No, no, no, never, never. Now, 84 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm not going to disparage anyone for not having a job. 85 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: It happened to me. However, Aaron at the time was 86 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: more than capable of working, he just didn't. Instead, he 87 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: played a lot of games, especially MMOs. 88 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like ruin Escape, like World of Warcraft 89 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: to those kind of things. 90 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: Es actually massively multiplayer online games like RuneScape that kind 91 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: of thing. 92 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: I love her escape lot it. 93 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: He was always hitting up his other friends for cash 94 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: and gifts. However, this got to the point where people 95 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: would stop playing with him all together, which makes perfect sense. 96 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: During this time, he'd often hit me and my wife 97 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: up for money and gifts as well. On top of that, 98 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: anytime we'd head to the grocery store, he'd hand us 99 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: gift cards and things and expect us to bring him 100 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: food too well. 101 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 4: He would give you gift cards. That sounds sketchy. That 102 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 4: sounds like some darknet shit, bro, you've heard of, like 103 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 4: the gift card scams and show where it's like pick 104 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 4: up a gift card put in my name. 105 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 106 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 4: That sounds sketchy. If he's paying gift cards, there's some 107 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: sketchy shit going on and getting. 108 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: Other people to buy things for it. Like, Bro, this 109 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: ain't door dash like. 110 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 4: Because gift cards are like kind of untraceable, right, It's 111 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 4: like basically cash. Almost literally every time we go to 112 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 4: get groceries, he does this. I live in a very 113 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 4: walkable city and don't drive, so we'd be carrying back 114 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: food for this guy and his kid anytime we didn't 115 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 4: he'd throw a huge tantrum the dad, not the sun, 116 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 4: to be specific, talk about how we were taking food 117 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 4: out of his son's mouth or punishing him for being 118 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 4: a parent. Now because my wife and I are child free, 119 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 4: he'd say, we didn't understand because we hated children. We 120 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: don't hate kids, mind you, and little Ethan was basically 121 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 4: like a nephew to us. Every once in a while, 122 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: he'd also convince some of our driving mutual friends to 123 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 4: take him on grocery runs, but those only happened maybe 124 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 4: two or three times per friend, because they wouldn't put 125 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: up with him like he would. This guy doesn't have 126 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 4: a car, yeah, doesn't have a wallet, only has hundreds 127 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 4: of KEFT cards. And this emaciated child. 128 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: Goes to the grocery store with RuneScape ingave prensy, trying 129 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: to fight loaves of bread. Oh body, you have three 130 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: loaves of bread for this wood. 131 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: I will trade you this emerald sword for a cartoon 132 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 3: of eggs. 133 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: Darn inflation. I need a platinum sword these days. Oh 134 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: my god. Now this would all come to a head 135 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: when he tried to guilt trip some of our friend 136 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: streamers on a stream at one am for not dropping 137 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: everything to drive across down, pick him up and buy 138 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,679 Speaker 1: him dinner. This is three days after they bought him 139 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: a three hundred dollar gaming chair because his fat butt 140 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: broke his old one. 141 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: Why are they paying for his lifestyle? 142 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 3: Dude? 143 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: These friends need to stopinabling him. He's a monster. This 144 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: is like my friends that are like twitch streamers. It's 145 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: like that are like girls. This is what like. 146 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 4: It sounds like egirl treatment where it's like, can you 147 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: please like buy me my rent and they'll do it. 148 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: Dude. 149 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, she has a shopping list and like her she 150 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 4: calls them her simps. Will just buy the stuff on 151 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 4: her shopping list and like she'll give them a shout out. 152 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: We need simps, dude, Yeah, where are simps? Come on, man, 153 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 4: where are simps? Why can't you buy stuff off on 154 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 4: Amazon shopping list? 155 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: I want a new ice maker come on. All of 156 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: that and driving across town to build it for him too. 157 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: They built the chair too. This man, this man has 158 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: got too much. When I say his fat butt, I 159 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: really mean it too. He was pushing five hundred pounds now. 160 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: I am pretty heavy set myself. A lot of my 161 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: friends and family are. I completely get it. However, one 162 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: of the things he did was constantly eat out hopefully 163 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: the food. He would eat really big meals at buffets 164 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: or order multiple pizzas. Is this like Nico avocado or something? Yeah? Fuck. 165 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: He said he liked cooking, but he basically never did. 166 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: This did not help his weight and very much did 167 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: not help his budget. During this time and later when 168 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: he finally got his new but short lived job, he 169 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: was always asking my wife to watch Ethan while he 170 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: went out to who knows where. We're talking five to 171 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: ten hours at a time, sometimes for days on end. 172 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: She saw Ethan more than Aaron did. Like literally, they 173 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: are watching his child more than he is watching his 174 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: own child for free. For sure. There's no ways, wow wow. 175 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 4: I have a feeling that his life has gone like 176 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 4: maybe he got like divorced, his wife died, his health plummeted, 177 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 4: and like these are all old friends from his previous 178 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: life where he was like taking care of himself. 179 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: He's treating his friends like the buffet that he loves 180 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: shout out on We were therefore, diaper changes, bats, potty training, meals, 181 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: all of it. My wife basically raised him all of 182 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: this without pay other than him occasionally buying us some 183 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: food because his divorce was insanely bad. His wife tricked 184 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: him into having Ethan by lying about birth control, stole 185 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: his car, crashed it, resulting in him losing his car, 186 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: having his license revoke, and then cheating on him with 187 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: his best friend and running away with the best friend. 188 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yep. 189 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: Dude has been through it. He was super depressed all 190 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: the time. His place was always torn up as well, 191 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: the grossest place I've ever seen, and he'd convinced my 192 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: wife and me to clean it for him, once again 193 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: using his son as a guilt trip. Somewhere along the line, 194 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: he let Ethan whizz all over the floor and spill 195 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: juice and stuff, so his floor was always covered in mildew. 196 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: Oh goodness. The bathroom was a wreck as well, covered 197 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: in human waste, grime and more. There was toys and 198 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: trash everywhere. Both he and his son slept on a 199 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: mattress on the floor as well, because they had to 200 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: get rid of their bed frames. Why why, you may ask, 201 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: Because of the bed bugs. 202 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 4: Wait bedframes, and the bed bugs bed bugs in the bedframe, 203 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 4: they weren't they in the mattress? I think, so I 204 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 4: was thinking, like, maybe he's like too big and like 205 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: would kill the bedframe. 206 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: The bedbugs plagued our building for years, but he wouldn't 207 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: report them to his parents because they'd kick him out 208 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: if he or we did. 209 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: Dude, man is going through it. 210 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: He had a washer and a dryer provided by his parents, 211 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: unlike the rest of the units in the building. 212 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: Where's parents? 213 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: Dude, that is a great question, Like if they can 214 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: help with the rent, maybe there's I mean, of all 215 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: the people mentioned, the parents I think should be lending 216 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: a hand the most here. The dryer broke about two 217 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: years after we moved in, and he wouldn't report it 218 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: to his parents for the same reason. This meant that 219 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: he and his son wore wrinkled, mildewede clothes all the time. 220 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: It got to the point where he convinced my wife 221 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: to take their clothes whenever she went to the laundry mat, 222 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: and of course she was paying. 223 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 4: I mean, this guy's depressed, and this is all like, 224 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 4: this is all signals of depression. I merely and massively depressed. 225 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 4: He's not taking care of himself. It does not sound 226 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 4: like he is in a position to take care of 227 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 4: his kim. 228 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: It honestly does. 229 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: Like I don't think at all. 230 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: Somewhere along the line, he had gotten bitten by a 231 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: spider on his leg, which he nearly had to remove. 232 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: This was apparently a combination of him not going to 233 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: the er soon enough and something about his diabetes. Luckily, 234 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: after making all of these plans with us to take 235 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: care of him throughout his recovery, his leg was intact. However, 236 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: he would then go on to use his quote unquote 237 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: rotten leg his words to milk more sympathy out of 238 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: everyone around him. 239 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 2: Dude, dude, come on now. 240 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: Thankfully, his dad, who also owned some local car washes, 241 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: ended up hiring him to be a car washer to 242 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: bring in a bit of money. Here there, dude, the 243 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: parents have got to hire him. I'm so like, or 244 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, like it seems like they have the means, Like. 245 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what they're trying to do, right. 246 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: I think, so hire him here and there. I'm like, 247 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: I don't know full time if he owns a car wash, like, 248 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: have him out to do like accounting or you know, 249 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: keep booking out onto something. Now, don't get me wrong, 250 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: his parents were abusive a holes. I get it. Okay, 251 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: well there's some context, but right after working there one year, 252 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: he got into a huge fight with his dad about 253 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: being late all the time, and he quit. At that point, 254 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: his dad also started charging rent oh Man. Because of 255 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: this whole debacle, we started making big meals for both 256 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: households to keep his food costs down, all while still 257 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: providing free grocery pickups, childcare, laundry service, cleaning, et cetera. Honestly, 258 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: a real quick pause, I'm almost like, should ope and 259 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: their wife like adopt Ethan? 260 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 4: I mean, they're already taking care of him, like they're 261 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: already saying. I feel like they're they're kind of just 262 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: put with his like responsibility. It's it's it's it's an 263 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 4: even more thing to like take him full on. But 264 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 4: I I am worried for Ethan. He probably needs a 265 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 4: company to call CPS. But it's like always like the CPS, 266 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 4: it's like, are you actually get anger kid into a 267 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 4: better Yeah? I would love to know anyone who's been 268 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 4: through the child like Protective Service system or foster system, 269 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 4: Like it sounds like this guy is like super neglectful. Yeah, 270 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: but like would the kid be actually better off in 271 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 4: foster care? 272 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: I wonder. 273 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm very curious let us know in the comments if 274 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: you have any context or know about that. By this time, 275 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: Ethan was in school as well, so my wife would 276 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: walk him to and from school before taking care of 277 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: him in the evening. We also started giving them five 278 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month to help him get back on 279 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: his feet, with the promise he would start looking for 280 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: a job. Man, they're really doing it. 281 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 2: They're really helping him out. 282 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: Right out of the gate, he said he wouldn't do 283 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: anything that had him on his feet because of his 284 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: rotting leg. Fair, I guess. But he also wouldn't work 285 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: a temp job or at a call center also because 286 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: of not driving. It had to be within walking distance, 287 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: but not too far because of the weight and his leg. 288 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god, man has so many requests. 289 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: So the only jobs he could take were online, which okay, yes, 290 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: So instead of looking for data entry or something, he 291 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: decided he would be a streamer. 292 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 4: F me, Okay, you can make money as a streamer, yes, 293 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 4: as a podcaster, yeah, but it takes years, dude, It 294 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: takes years of making no money and you have to 295 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 4: be like you have to be dedicated. Yes, it's an investment, yeap, 296 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: especially streaming. Like streamers go so hard, especially on the 297 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 4: come up. I would imagine like eight hours a day 298 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 4: at least. 299 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's it's intense, dude. 300 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: And then this guy really won't ever leave his house. 301 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: That is, I don't know if that's the best. That summer, 302 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: his ac broke along with his oven again. Instead of 303 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: reporting this to his dad, the landlord, who was responsible 304 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: for these things, he begged me and my wife to 305 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: pay for the fixes. This time around, I got an 306 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: offer to move into an apartment complex literally only three 307 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: miles away that was exclusively for artists. I was a 308 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: full time artist working in game development and doing some 309 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: freelance photography and graphic design on the side, so this 310 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: was a huge opportunity for me. Well guess what. He 311 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: started guilt tripping me and my wife about it, saying 312 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: that if we moved away, he'd never see us again, 313 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: and that we were being unfair to Ethan three miles. 314 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: That's all it was. 315 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: He demands so much, so, the most. 316 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: The absolute most. Honestly, I guess he was right, But 317 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm getting ahead of myself. By this time, all of 318 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: my friends had had enough of him. They figured he 319 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: was fun enough to hang out with, but he started 320 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: being a jerk to all of them too, like, for instance, 321 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: storming out of multiple D and D games because he 322 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: didn't like how they were going, and not playing for 323 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: months before coming back like nothing ever happened, and then 324 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: doing it all over again. No one but me and 325 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: my wife would even talk to him after all that, so, 326 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: knowing what an opportunity moving into the artist collective would be, 327 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: my friends had an intervention with me. They explained that 328 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: I was being manipulated and instead of helping him and 329 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: his son, I was being an enabler, and that I 330 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: needed to move and support my family. That might be true. 331 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 4: There's help, and then there's a certain point where it's 332 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 4: actually not helpful to help. 333 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: I think it is good that the friends are sitting 334 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: Gopee down and like bringing this to their attention. With 335 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: much protest from Aaron, we have moved. However, I would 336 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: still go for visits and my wife's still occasionally babysat 337 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: for Ethan. We also still paid him five hundred dollars 338 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: a month. That was until I gave him a cookbook 339 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: about cooking on a budget and he lost his mind. 340 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: I told him that I really wasn't comfortable with him 341 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: wasting all the money I gave him on junk food 342 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: and that he should at least try to cook healthy 343 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: for him and his son. At this point, Ethan was 344 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: getting bullied for being overweight, and his teachers had started 345 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: saying things. I told Aaron that I wasn't going to 346 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: enable him and that if he wanted my help, he 347 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: was going to need to make these changes. 348 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: That is like, like, it's already hurting the kid. 349 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: Big line crossed there. I think he was furious, saying 350 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: that I was acting just like his dad who had 351 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: who had abused him his entire life, and that he 352 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: was going to do whatever he wanted with his money, 353 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: quote unquote, and then if I stopped paying, that I 354 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: was abusing too. 355 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: My god, dude, I was such a manipulator. 356 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so bad. He told me that if I was 357 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: going to do that, he would never speak to me 358 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: again and that would be unfair to Ethan. I straight 359 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: up told him that was bold and that we can 360 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: still be in each other's lives. But at that point 361 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: I felt I needed to remove money from the equation, 362 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: and he told me that I was making the decision 363 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: to never see him again. But that was enough. I 364 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: told him have a good life. 365 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 4: Who I mean finally op he is like, I'm putting 366 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 4: my foot down right, which is good. Like I gotch 367 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 4: something that we needed to happen. It did, but there's more. 368 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god. A few years later, I got a 369 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: phone call from him asking about helping him getting into 370 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: his Minecraft account, which I had gifted. What a thing. 371 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: What a thing? 372 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: After years of literally no contact, just being like, Yo, 373 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: could you help me reset my password? 374 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 4: I like, oh my god, I wonder if this is 375 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 4: the gateway gate ask to ask. 376 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: Right, But I couldn't help. And I also got a 377 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: message from Ethan asking if we could see each other. 378 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: I didn't respond because I didn't want to risk being 379 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: manipulated by his dad again. I literally still get stressed 380 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: nightmares about him nearly a decade later. I know that 381 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: a lot of this was my fault for not setting boundaries, 382 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: but I didn't know that at the time. I'm just 383 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: trying to move on, and the move I made best 384 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: thing I've ever done. The collective supported my indie game studio, 385 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: so we're doing good things, including showcasing my work at 386 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: the freaking Smithsonian. 387 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: Wow, that's so sick. 388 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: Let's go ope and now I'm the property manager for 389 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: the building and I also manage the community gallery. Seriously 390 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: life changing stuff. Thank you for reading. Wow. 391 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 4: I mean, I think what we learned from this I 392 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 4: would love to hear like, do you think OP did 393 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: anything wrong in this? Do you think OP was enabling? 394 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 4: And also when does helping someone who is not doing 395 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 4: well turn into enabling? I think in this case it 396 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 4: seemed like OP did the wrong thing in terms of 397 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 4: helping for too long the greatest intentions, of course, greatest 398 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 4: intentions helping for too long. And it was really good 399 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: that OP finally decided like, I this is not something 400 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 4: that is okay for me to do anymore. 401 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: One hundred cross the line here? But where does that 402 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: lime cross? It's hard to know, very hard. It also 403 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: depends on like how long have you known this person? 404 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: I think there's like there's like this rule or this 405 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: rule is like have you had more good days with 406 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: them than bad? Which is like uh, and you can 407 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: put that on any timescale. And the longer that you've 408 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: known that person, the more like they could have bad 409 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: days with you. It's like Christian, I've known since kindergarten. 410 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: He could probably be an asshole. The rest of his 411 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: life and would still be he'd still have days left. Dude, 412 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: He's filled up his tanks and filled up his tank 413 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: tun to floor it on the asshole pedal if. 414 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 4: You ask me, right, So, and I think it's but 415 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 4: it's like you know, someone who I just met or 416 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 4: something like you, only you only need to have maybe 417 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 4: like a couple of bad days. 418 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: We're like, oh, I don't know if this is a 419 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 2: good thing. 420 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I think get like, what it seems 421 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: like is there's probably a lot of maybe good days 422 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: stored in the tank. 423 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 2: And maybe that's why Op was so willing too, but 424 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: who knows. 425 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: Who knows, But we would love to get your perspective 426 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: if you have any thoughts on that in any stories 427 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: around that, we have a call line four four zero 428 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: five's are eight six five six seven. Hit us with 429 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: the stories. 430 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: We love you. I love you so much, See you 431 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: on the next so much so. Yeah. This is an 432 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 2: episode from Deep within the Archives. 433 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: Time for okop reward today FS up by going on 434 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: a second date with a girl wait out of my league. Hey, 435 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: never go on second dates with girls way out of 436 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: your league, especially if you're flying across the country with them. 437 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, I think I think girls who 438 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: are very much in your league because you are the prize. Yeah, yes, 439 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: that's right. 440 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: I update you on what she said. 441 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: No, no, okay, so so no, just just a little recoup. 442 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: Sorry. 443 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: I met this girl at the beach. We had a 444 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: great date at the Getty and then I'm like, yo, 445 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: we we like randomly bumped into this kid who was 446 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: wearing a shirt that said Biscuits and Porn and he 447 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's a place in North Carolina, and like, 448 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: y'all want to go to North Carolina to this girl, 449 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: and we flew to North Carolina. I bought her the ticket, 450 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: she got the hotel. So yeah, so even trade a 451 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: big but a big yeah, big yeah, freakin' totally totally random, 452 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: totally uh not dealing with my breakup in weird ways. 453 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: So I text her just so she she basically we 454 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: were supposed to meet up last Thursday, and she said 455 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: she couldn't and I'm like and I just said, hey, 456 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: just sent over the shared album in the North Carolina 457 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: Picks and No Sweat Rain checked. Then I'm back from 458 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: the farm Sunday night and leaf for Orlando a Thursday morning. 459 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: So if you're free for date three and between, then 460 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: let me know. Otherwise it's pause and reconnect after the eighteenth, 461 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: when you're settled in your apartment and I'm back from London. Right, 462 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: and there had been a prior discussion also about like, okay, 463 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: if we can't get together then maybe well. 464 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, there had been at yeah right right bro. She 465 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 4: responds a day later with a picture of a pastack 466 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 4: of gum and says, your next brand deal. That's it, 467 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 4: that's actually it, that's actually it. 468 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: What the hell? 469 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: Oh? 470 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 2: Why I think it's over? 471 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: Man? Oh, I see the problem is I don't. Yeah, 472 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: I get I guess that's the safe assumption. But I'm 473 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: also just like so confused. I'm so confused. Yeah, it 474 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. Have we gotten the expert on 475 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: the situation? I have not not any direct intel yet, right, Okay, 476 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: I think I think we like this is some this 477 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: is way above our art. This is some some women's brain. Yeah, yeah, 478 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 1: I have no idea. It's a brand sponsors. What do 479 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: I do with this? Please? 480 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: Nothing? Nothing? Anyway, Let's get to the story. 481 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: Anyways. See that's see. You guys listen to all the 482 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: episodes because you never know you never never. 483 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: Know when you're gonna get an update. 484 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: That's right. So I recently moved to a new city 485 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: for grad school and pretty quickly met this wonder full 486 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: gal on one of the dating apps. Hey let's go 487 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: of course, Hey this is triggering. Yeah, stop talking about 488 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: wonderful days. That's right. We went on our first date 489 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: two nights ago and it went really well, and she's 490 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: super sweet and kind of way why why why why why? 491 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: Out of my league? 492 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 2: That's that's fairly out, fairly out of the leg. 493 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: Seems like she's out of the league. Last night we 494 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: decided to hang out again, so we went out, got 495 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: a few beers, had a few laughs, et cetera. 496 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: Say, you know, go out, go out to l A, 497 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: I have a few laughs. 498 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: The one is a little thing, you know. 499 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 4: What's that? That's the die hard? You know the diehard. 500 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 4: It's like, hey, lets you know, let's have a few laughs. 501 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: Is that die hard? 502 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 2: Is that is diehard? Die hard? 503 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 4: Have he goes come out to the coast, we'll get together, 504 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 4: we'll have a few lefts. 505 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: That's when he's in the Is that the first one? Yeah? 506 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to see the other ones I've seen. 507 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: I have seen the first one Heard One, Diehard two 508 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: pretty good. Those are the ones. 509 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was pretty enthralled. 510 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: Actually, Diehard one was amazing, Dieheard Dire two holds Up Too. 511 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: And they are Christmas movies. I watched it on Christmas 512 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: with my parents. It's great. That's that's that's a good 513 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: that's a good adult Christmas movie. Yeah, that's cute. It's cute. Actually, 514 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: I want to show that to like my three year old, like, 515 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: this is Christmas, this is theence, so like they just 516 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: get like toy grenades and stuff. I'm also like not 517 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: going to tell my kids what Santa is. It's just 518 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: going to be die Hard references like Bazukahs. Yeah, we 519 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: we just have a dinner. Watch Diehard. That is the 520 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: Christmas celebration. We were walking on the sidewalk and I 521 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: cannot take my eyes off of her. I'm pretty extremely distracted, 522 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: and so I'm not exactly looking where I'm going. 523 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 2: Nice, so distract acted by the pretty girls. 524 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: You know, hey, it's some some to stick his eyeballs on. 525 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: So distracted, In fact, I stepped directly off of a 526 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: very tall curb into a pothole. Oh no, not a 527 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: good move, dude, tripping up. My boy is getting tongue 528 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: twisted and leg blisted. That's right, it's not looking good. 529 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: And at that moment, I glanced down on my right 530 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: foot and noticed how odd it looked. 531 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 2: Oh no, that's that's all. What you want to know 532 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: is ullier. 533 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: I couldn't quite place what was wrong with it until 534 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: I realized that my right foot was now perpendicular tomb 535 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: the left. 536 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 2: Yikes, dude, my. 537 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: Foot did a backfoot to the left. 538 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 4: Now, y'all, Oh, one hop this time, because that's all 539 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 4: he's doing. 540 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: Off hop everywhere this time because you can't walk. Because 541 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: you can't walk. Not to be deterred from enjoying the 542 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: rest of our date, I quickly grabbed my foot and 543 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: snapped it back forward. 544 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: Yo, hey, yo, what you say? Man? Man wants this 545 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 2: date to go so well. 546 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: He's willing to snap back token bones and rolled ankles 547 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: he make it go. He's just ready to lose a 548 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: foot for this One's committed. He's risking at all. I 549 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: tried to walk it off. I promptly made it three 550 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: steps before she caught me and sat me down. I 551 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: assured her, Oh no, everything's fun, okay, man, I just 552 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: you know my foot was just backwards and just put 553 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: it forward. 554 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: Just always been like twisted around. 555 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: It's a party trick, bab, it's cool. 556 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: You know how people like pop their shoulders out. I 557 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: caught my ankle. 558 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: I just it's called owl foot like, don't worry about it. 559 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: But she was having none of it. Thankfully, I could 560 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: have hurt myself way more than I already did. 561 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 2: Ye shout out to the date, dude. 562 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I would hope any reasonable human is like, like, no, 563 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: we are walking to get this ice cream, march, get 564 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: to step in. In fact, I don't want to walk anymore. 565 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: Carry carry me to the ice. 566 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 4: Cream, you peasant like like arms. 567 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: I made a cult to my roommate, a cult to 568 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: my roommate, and a trip to the yar later, I'm 569 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: sitting in the waiting room at about one am with 570 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: an ankle the size of a cantelope. 571 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 2: Yikes, yikes. 572 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: The girl at this point was entirely justified in leaving 573 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: and cutting her losses. I'm just a random dude she 574 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: met on bubble four to eight hours ago. 575 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 4: Low key like true, like she no obligation, like I'm 576 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 4: she like left right, she definitely left. 577 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: I think, Oh, actually we're maybe not to the contrary. However, 578 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: she stayed no way all freaking night long. 579 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: This one's a key for op this, this one's a key. 580 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: R bruh. He's saying at a league, she's staying the 581 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: whole night. Yeah, this is this is it for you. 582 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: Lock it down, propose on your good leg right now, 583 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: will you? Oh? 584 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: Mary screaming through the pan, he's like biting onto a stick. 585 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. Through two hours in the waiting room, multiple X rays, 586 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: setting my ankles, scan, a cast, and more. From one 587 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: to seven am, I had more fun than I thought 588 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: possible I ever could in an emergency room. Wow, this 589 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: is a great date. This is like a true time, 590 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: This is incredible. We cracked jokes, We laughed at the 591 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: sheer fing stupidity of this whole night, and we made 592 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: bets on whether it was broken or sprained, and we 593 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: called my mom. I really should have been in pain, 594 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: but I hardly felt a thing. Wow, this is too cute, 595 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: This is very This is not how Reddit dates usually go. Oh. 596 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: We thought this was hurt, gonna take her to now. 597 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: We thought this was gonna go way downhill. She saw 598 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: I broke my foot, then she kicked it just to 599 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: make sure it was broken, for the audacity of breaking 600 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: my leg on her doa dare you? Oh God? At 601 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: seven am, we finally made it back to my apartment, 602 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: and instead of leaving, she stuck around even longer, and 603 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: we took a much needed nap cuttle sash, and she 604 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: went and got food for us, and she got medicine 605 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: for me while we watched the boys, and she even 606 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: helped me shower and caught me when I almost fell 607 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: bro marry her right now? What are you waiting waiting for? 608 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: Stop writing this story to get right your vows with 609 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: the laptop right now? Turned out, I broke my ankle 610 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: in two different ways, and oh two different ways. This 611 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: is a lot, and I got to enjoy surgery next 612 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: week as they put some titanium screws and plates in place. Coincidentally, 613 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: my graduate school also starts next week. Not sure how 614 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: I'm going to manage, especially since I can no longer 615 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: even drive. No basketball for me for a long time either, 616 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: which also really sucks, But I'm managing to stay in 617 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: good spirits overall. I got to meet an absolutely incredible 618 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: lady go on by far the most interesting second date 619 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: of my life, and now have a phenomenal story for 620 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: how we met, and maybe, if I'm lucky, the nightingale 621 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: effect will take hold. 622 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: What's the nightingale effect? 623 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: I have no idea. 624 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: What's the nightingale effect? 625 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: The florinace nightingale effect is a trope where a caregiver 626 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: falls in love with their patience. 627 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 3: It. 628 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: Ah, that's a good reference, dude, that's a great reference. 629 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: I hope so too, op I hope so too. I 630 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: think empty your savings and buyering. 631 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: Right now, dude. 632 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: It's it's going well. It's going well for op And 633 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: Opie said in himself, he's ugly. He's this girl his league, so, 634 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, at a minimum, but uly probably ugliest. 635 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: Frick frack. So lock it in, Lock it in, Block 636 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: it in.