1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Bootlet Cav podcast Boutlet keV show my brother. He's got 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: a new album coming out, Labor of Love. 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 2: Labor of Love six twelve. Man we out, Yes, that's 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: next weekend, next week, next week, next Friday. 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Last is in the building? 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 2: Yes, sir boo Let Cav. What's up? Man? 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: So, man, I haven't seen you in a minute. Last time, 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: I think we did something together. We were at my 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: pizza restaurant. This was like when you drop the debut album, 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: which feels even weird to say now because it felt 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: like you're like third album. But it's fine. 12 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: Hey, you know, it get political when they say debut 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: because I feel the same way you feel. 14 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: But hey, so that was like you've you've come a 15 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: long way. That was about it almost two years ago. 16 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was twenty twenty four. 17 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that. 18 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: Was the last time dropped. 19 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: That is crazy. A lot has happened since then. You 20 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: Red Bull Records is no longer a thing period, right, Yeah? 21 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: So you had a great run with him, by the 22 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: way I did. Now you're with Empire, who tried to 23 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: get you in the first place, yep, back in the day. 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 25 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: How you feeling, man, how are you feeling in twenty 26 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: twenty six. 27 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: Man, I feel like I'm back to square one. It's 28 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: a lot of highs and lows that I've been going 29 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: through since twenty twenty four. But in a nutshell, I 30 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: would say I feel like I'm in control, Like I'm 31 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: back to the roots, back to the basics, And that's 32 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: what Labor of Love represents. Yeah, doing it for the 33 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: love of the game. 34 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: Do you feel like because I feel like you have 35 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: had so many quote unquote hit records and had so 36 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: much success, like immediately and then like you kind of 37 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: like got boxed in where people will be like every 38 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: blast song sounds the same, but then your debut album 39 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: comes out and you dibbled and dabbled sonically a lot. Yeah, 40 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: but it seemed like people didn't like fuck with it. 41 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:56,639 Speaker 1: I thought it was great. 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: That's crazy that you say that, because I just had 43 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: this converseation last night, like people say your shit sound 44 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: insane and you do something different and they like it 45 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: don't even exist, bro, Like. 46 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: Did you not hear the first album song? Like I 47 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 1: feel like it didn't sound like you were like trying hard. 48 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: You just made some different experiments, Like there was some 49 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: shit on that album. 50 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you that was executive produced by sound Wave too. 51 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: You know, I was tapped in with different cultures. You know, 52 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: when you first get in the game, it's like you're 53 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: doing what you do and then you start meeting other producers, 54 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: then get signed and it's like you should work with 55 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: this person. So I went through the ringer of working 56 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: with different people. But yeah, I had fun making that album. 57 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: It was It was my most experimental album. You know. 58 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: It was after I was traveling the world, so I 59 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: was working with international artists and stuff like that. Got 60 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: fade on there. The fade Man shout. 61 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: Out brought to a whole new audience exactly. 62 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: He brought me out all the way in Colombia too 63 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: to do that song. I brought him out at Coachella too. 64 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: Wow. 65 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, we're back to me fully producing it. 66 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: How was the initial response to the album or maybe 67 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: maybe not the album, like having like a chosen on it, 68 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: or having the success that like maybe you thought it 69 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: might have had, because I do I remember when you 70 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: came out at was it that rolling loud and you 71 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: had the crazy performance? It was fucking a movie dog 72 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: la or it was la Okay? Yeah, but did did that? 73 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: Like I feel like being an artist has to be 74 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: like a roller coaster experience because like anything you put 75 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: out is like an artistic you know, it's an artistic 76 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: representation of where you are at the time. You care 77 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: about it, you love it. You're vulnerable enough to release 78 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: your art to the world. Like did that album's I 79 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: guess lack of like popping or doing as well as 80 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: maybe some of your previous stuff. 81 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: Did it? 82 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: Did it make you question anything to throw you off 83 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: track at all? 84 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: Did he throw me off track? Yeah? I mean I 85 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: think it kind of make you self reflect because you 86 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: especially when you come in a game on fire, you know, 87 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: you back to back of like just scorching, just scorching everything. 88 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: I had double Excel, Freshmen tours, multiple Grammy nominations, Kendrick features. Yeah, so, 89 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: and then I dropped my debut album quote unquote, and 90 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: yeah it was. It was a weird time honestly too, 91 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: because a lot of other ship was going on in 92 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: my real life, right you know. So twenty twenty four 93 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: is when I started managing myself. I haven't had a 94 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: manager since twenty twenty four. Yeah, and I went on 95 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: tour no management, So it was a lot of shit. 96 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: I was learning you're having to deal with that all 97 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: of the shit on your own. 98 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so you know, it was it was a 99 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: lot of ups and downs that kind of affect the creativity. 100 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: I love the music, but as far as like the 101 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: aesthetic outside of it. I dyed my hair blond and 102 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: all kind of crazy shit. Yeah, you know, and I 103 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: felt like I was, like, looking back, I was kind 104 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: of like in a rebellious mind state if I had to. 105 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: I thought it was also conceptually dope, like you like, 106 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: it was like a quadruple disc format. Everything kind of 107 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: tied in together. 108 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 2: Yes, And I had to uh the short film with 109 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: it and everything. 110 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I even like when you did the rollout, 111 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: you're running around and you ended up doing something what 112 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: up though? But you were just running around the city. 113 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: It felt it was it was. It was crazy. But 114 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: I enjoyed the album a lot. But I always wonder 115 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: when that happens to an artist, like where you just 116 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: didn't miss for so long and then like that album 117 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: kind of comes and goes and you're like, well, fuck 118 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: does that? Like, like where how do you regroup artistically 119 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: and how do you regroup mentally? Because I can only 120 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: imagine like if you you can let that noise get to. 121 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: You, right, I think you gotta just stick to what 122 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, on that album, it was a lot 123 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: of chefs in the kitchen, I would say too, Like, 124 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: even though I had my management situation was falling apart, 125 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: it was a lot of like different chefs in the kitchen. 126 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: I was working with new people, you know. In a nutshell, 127 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: it felt good in the in the midst of creating it. 128 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: But I think looking back, you just gotta reflect on 129 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: what didn't connect and what did connect. A lot of 130 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: people knew me for a certain sonic and it kind 131 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: of went left, you know, And I think it was 132 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: a little bit too early. Like if I would have 133 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: dropped this album I'm dropping now then dropped, I'll always 134 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: confined you. I felt like it would have connected way crazier. 135 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: Right. So do you think this new album, Labor of 136 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: Love is more back to the roots of I mean, 137 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: obviously this stuff we've heard from the album to me, 138 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: I mean I got to listen to I only got 139 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: through about half of the album, but it does feel 140 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: like some classic blast Yeah. 141 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what was your question now? 142 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: I was just say, do you feel like with this 143 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: album you kind of got got back to the roots 144 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: of like, yeah, what we know, blast to be kind 145 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: of came into game. 146 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say for me, like this album, I 147 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: just got back to what I felt was missing in 148 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 2: the universe, like why I started making music just for 149 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: the love of the game. Like I said, so just 150 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 2: me being boxed in in the studio, pulling from my 151 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: inspirations that made me started making music in the first place. Ye, yeah, 152 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: you know so, I think naturally the fans will connect 153 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: to that. 154 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: The other thing, I feel like when you came in, 155 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: you were you were damn near like the West Coast 156 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: RUSS because you were in charge of I remember the 157 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: artistic direction and like all your videos look so crazy 158 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: and like you were in charge of the videos and 159 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: you were. I think you were in charge of the 160 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: artwork too. You're mixing, your mastering, you're producing everything, so 161 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: like every part of the creative process you're touching. I'm 162 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: sure the bigger you get, it's a lot easier to 163 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: let some of that creative process slip away exactly because 164 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: you're so busy now and you're like, well maybe if 165 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: I you. 166 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, I think you you, like I said, you 167 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: go through the industry you start doing, you start wearing 168 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: yourself thin. 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Like 209 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: what's behind that title and kind of what the theme 210 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: of this album is. 211 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: Labor of love is enjoying the process of it, you know, 212 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: instead of just focusing on the destination. It's like, I 213 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: have to embrace the journey of it. I think if 214 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: you too focused on the destination and what you can 215 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: get from out of a situation, you kind of lose 216 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: sense of the love and the arc that goes into 217 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: the details of what you're building. And a lot of 218 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: times when when I've been dropping albums and stuff, the 219 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 2: happiness really come from in the midst of those sessions, 220 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: you know, when you're producing, or when you find that 221 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 2: right snare, when you find the right kick or the 222 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 2: right line. So I just want to live in a 223 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 2: process and enjoy the journey over over everything because it's 224 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: gonna come to an end one day. 225 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw you doing like a beat breakdowns and shit, 226 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is like blasts in his pocket 227 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: if he's fucking making the bead to Yeah, are you 228 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: still like on this album? How much of the album 229 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: did you handle the production? So you did everything? 230 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I brought it in some live instrument, like if. 231 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: You need some strings or something, you need somebody coming. 232 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: Right right right outside of that. Yeah, hands on with everything, 233 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: And I've been documenting the process. So I bought a 234 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: Sony camera and I just throw it in the corner 235 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: of the room and just document the process because I 236 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: kind of look at it now, it's like like a 237 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: visual diary, like something for my kids to have in 238 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 2: the future. Like imagine if you had like a like 239 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: raw videos of your grandpa way back then. 240 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, it'd be crazy. 241 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: So that's that's the type of ship I've been doing lately. 242 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: Do you uh on the on this album? I know 243 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: you've been working with Big You got a record with 244 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: Big Sad. Out shout out to Big Sad, who's going crazy. 245 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: I feel like you have this other guy named Mazi 246 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: that you have this like crazy just just I feel 247 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: like I just been trying to throw the idea of 248 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: you and Mazzi doing a whole album in the universe 249 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: for like five six years. Is he on the album? 250 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: He's not on the album. 251 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: Okay, he's not any more progress on doing a Masi 252 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: Blast album. 253 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: Nah, bro, I haven't really been tapped in with Bro 254 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: as of recently. We got a bunch of songs that's 255 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: just never been released naturally, but we never really tapped out. 256 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: He did do the project with Kaitlin too. He did 257 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 2: you know that that went crazy? But nah, I got 258 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: to tap in with Devo. Man, he been going crazy 259 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: in a basketball space. 260 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: I've seen that having like g Herbo play against like 261 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: Skill a baby or whatever. Yeah, man, he's going crazy. 262 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: If you could do a joint album with somebody besides 263 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: obviously you would be no have a crazy history. Is 264 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: there anybody else you could see yourself walking in with. 265 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: I had talks with doing a project with Larry June. 266 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: We had a couple of joints in a cut, but 267 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: it never came to fruition. But that would be one 268 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 2: of the least. This was like around the time when 269 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: we was working and Heavy. I think we got like 270 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: two songs out, but it was around that time. 271 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: Maybe you guys are both on Empire now he's not 272 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: Empire ere. 273 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 2: I feel like it'd be very easy, Yeah, but you 274 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: know he's doing his thing too. 275 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's a little bit easier for 276 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: you because I don't know what the politics were with 277 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: Red Bull, but you kind of were red Bull music, 278 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: like the most successful artists ever been signed there. Kept 279 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: the lights on. But it is still label, which I'm 280 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: assuming it's like a little bit, you know, you still 281 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: got to get some stuff approved. I'm sure it's an 282 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: unconventional label system. But do you feel like being with 283 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: a company like Empire, you're able to do more random 284 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: Like Hey, I feel like I want to just throw 285 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: some shit out with Let's say you and Larry June 286 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: got up in the Bay in two weeks and like, yo, 287 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: let's drop this ship next week. 288 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the flexibility is way more flexible 289 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: at like an Empire versus you know, Red Bull. Red 290 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 2: Bull was really like behind the scenes, really heavy about 291 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: the brand, even though they didn't want to cross pollinate 292 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: the side with the actual brand, right Like I wanted 293 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: a can for the longest time, like my face on 294 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: the can y, but I never ever got that opportunity 295 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 2: because they was like, naw, the music is the music, 296 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: the brand is the brand. 297 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: Were you able to walk away from that situation with 298 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: your masters? 299 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely? I started off with only my master's fire that's 300 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: gonna be forever. 301 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: So now that they're not a thing. Is your catalog 302 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: still with them? Where does the catalog lie? 303 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a licensing deal. 304 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: So they still get to license it. 305 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: Right until a yeah period of time fire. 306 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: So then you'll just get it back and you just oh, 307 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: that's a big that's fire. 308 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: I dropped the video on that too, some of my 309 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: Instagram about talking about three versions and the masters and 310 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: stuff like that. 311 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: That's awesome, that's awesome. I want to talk to you 312 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. A lot of people have 313 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: been dealing with the same thing, but you and your 314 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: family would do something traumatic. Someone broke into the house. 315 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: How did that kind of change shit for you? Man? 316 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: Because I've been in that situation where somebody has broken 317 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: into my shit took my shit. When I I mean, 318 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: it makes you want to like really yeah, it's just 319 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: a certain level of violation you feel. That is Yeah, 320 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: very hard to communicate to people if they have never 321 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: gone through that. 322 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: Man, were You're the first person that asked me that? 323 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: I think, how did it change me? Definitely made me 324 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: more alert. I definitely bought more guns up, the security system, 325 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: stuff like that. I had actually moved out that house 326 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: after it happened, probably like two months ago, I mean 327 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: two months after the situation, but just recently I've moved 328 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: back because I felt like as a representation for my kids, 329 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: I don't want to them to see like, yeah, somebody 330 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: can move you at your own house, because I had 331 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: uncomfortable time sleeping there around that time. 332 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: You know, but that area you're in, it that has 333 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: happened to a lot of yeah. 334 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: That's what I found out. A lot of people that 335 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: lived there, like different celebrities been tapping in like once 336 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: it happened, like, bro, that's the same situation happened to me. 337 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: And it's almost like they'll I mean, unfortunately, if you 338 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: live in LA it's not the hardest thing to figure 339 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: out where famous people live. They do damn TMZ tours 340 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: the people's right, So it's not the crazy. 341 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: That was the one thing I hated, Like when it happened, 342 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: the news was outside the house the whole and it's like, you. 343 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: Know, they tell you what and there's and where you're at, 344 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: Like there's only a couple of neighborhoods it could be, 345 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like, but I 346 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: can just imagine it's like you're a famous person and 347 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure, like if people want to find out if 348 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: you're even if you're like Angelina Jolie or somebody, they 349 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: can find out where you live and they'll be like, oh, 350 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: Angelina Jolie's on set filming because you're out of town. 351 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, dude, that shit's horrible, dude. 352 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the hardest part. Like I was in 353 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: New York when it happened, and my two boys was 354 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: at the house. 355 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: It just felt like they were with their nanny, grandma grandma. 356 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, damn. It just felt like a helpless, hopeless situation. 357 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 3: Bro. 358 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: And it was in the middle of the night. It 359 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: was probably like four o'clock in the morning, so imagine 360 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: waking up. My son said, he said, the bad guys 361 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: are in the house, like he facetimey on his iPad said, 362 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: the bad guys in my stomach. I just I didn't 363 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: know what to do, who to call. It was crazy why. 364 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm glad you're back in the house though. 365 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we back in it, man. You know, it changed 366 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: me for the better too, because you just can't be 367 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 2: caught lacking, you know, and. 368 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: I think too, like we just I mean, we all go. 369 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: I got to the point where I feel like I 370 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: was moving on too comfortable. It's like you always gotta 371 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: kind of be on your keep your head on the 372 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: swivel out here. 373 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: Man, just gotta stay ready. I got protective training for 374 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: my dog and my doverman about to get another dog. 375 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: And even like even I tell everybody, it's like, it's 376 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: a pain in the ass to get a concealed permit 377 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: out here, but fuck, man go. 378 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 2: Through that you're talking about like to carry on the ship. 379 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if you're like. 380 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: I heard, it's actually easier. 381 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: It became easier since COVID because before, well, shit, I 382 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: would say like anything, like before twenty twenty two, it 383 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: was like a pain in the ass. But now because 384 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: all the robberies and shit, they kind. 385 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 2: Of were like, all right, we gotta they gotta be 386 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: more flexible to it. 387 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, because otherwise you're just gonna have everybody out here 388 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: running around with guns anyway, trying to protect themselves. 389 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: The wild Wild West. 390 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: Man, what uh what features can you talk about on 391 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: the project? 392 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 2: That? 393 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 3: Uh? 394 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: That that you I mean obviously uh, big sads on 395 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: the album. Who else you got on the album? 396 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: So this album is real tight Kit, It's just big 397 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 2: sad Sasha Kibo. I just announced her and then we 398 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 2: got Chyenne Right on there as well. Chyenne Right is 399 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 2: a crazy singer from La She does background singing on 400 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: my on every tour that I've ever been on. So 401 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: if you know Blast and you've been to a show, 402 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: you know who Cheyenne Right is. 403 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: So keeping it super tight, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fire. 404 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: Shout out to our brother's a hard Dean man OTTs family. 405 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: Of course, they've been sponsoring the podcast for years now. 406 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: You've been seeing the mic flag for years now. Want 407 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,239 Speaker 1: to give a shout out to our brothers. I just 408 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: was in Vegas. I had to pull up all right. Look, 409 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: it's the number one dispensary in the world. When I 410 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: tell you, you walk in that thing and the BUTD tenders 411 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: are great. They take care of you immediately. The selection 412 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: is great. So when you go to Vegas, you get 413 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: into that cab, you get into that uber immediately, say 414 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: take me to Harding. Don't know what they're doing, all right, 415 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: they go get you right, all right, the number one 416 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: premium cannabis dispensary in the world. They just got me right. 417 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: I was just in town for Raffi's birthday. Had to 418 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: pull up. Get right this nice little one to one 419 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 1: Hardeing jersey. These are not available, all right, shout out 420 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: to them man, all right, salute to the family. Follow 421 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 1: him on Instagram Harding Underscore, Las Vegas. Sorry, let's get 422 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: back to the podcast. Do you feel like you because 423 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: you went through the I feel like guys like yourself, 424 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: Ty whoever, is like really good at the hook making. 425 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: Once you catch a couple of records, you end up 426 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: kind of being a very high and demand person for 427 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: artists to reach out to to get hooks for. Obviously, 428 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: you got the Kendrick feature with NAS. You know what 429 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Uh, there's some other random East Coast shit 430 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: you did that I can't even think about right now. 431 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: I did some shit with Buster to run. 432 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: Bust, but you were. I feel like like that has 433 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: to be a cool thing to go through where like 434 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: everyone's hitting like, Yo, we need a blast feature. We're 435 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: trying to go to radio, we need a blast feature, 436 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: or yo, we need something that's gonna be commercially successful. 437 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: It's got to be kind of like it's gotta feel 438 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: good to be like Bust. The rhymes reached out, NAS 439 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: reached out like was there a feature that you did 440 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: that just like meant the most you. That was just 441 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: kind of crazy to obviously. Besides I think Kendrick we 442 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: could put. 443 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: I think NAS was like the one, yeah, you know, 444 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 2: like it's because I've got uncles and shit that like 445 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 2: looked up to each East Coast rat of course, so 446 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: that one was just like okay, I'm here now, like 447 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: you can't tell me nothing, Like no, if NAS stamped me, 448 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: what can you really tell me? As far as like 449 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 2: hip hop and yeah, that was one of the ones. 450 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: That was Was that something you guys did in person together? 451 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we actually did that was at a hip. 452 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: Hooist hit studio. Yeah, is that was that childie? 453 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 454 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's crazy because like I don't 455 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: think a lot of people understand like NAS was doing 456 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: all that ship there, so it'd be like how does 457 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: Dom Kennedy end up on the Knas album? Be like, well, 458 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: it's because he's fucking in LA and hit boys calling 459 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: everybody to pull up exactly. 460 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: They had a crazy culture over there. I think I 461 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: don't even know if hit Boy got that spot. I 462 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: think Bro moved to Miami or some crazy. 463 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: Well hit moved to the fab Factory in North Hollywood, 464 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: which is Hella deep in the valley. But then he 465 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: got robbed. He posted, Yeah, I saw that, So then 466 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: he moved out and now my friend does merch out 467 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: of his old studio, which is random. They have machines 468 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: and ship so I don't know where it went to, 469 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: but yeah, but that spot in particular was a very 470 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: interesting place to have a studio because Yeah, when he 471 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: got robbed, I was like, bro, you had They were 472 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: doing those Neon streams with the streamer dude Neon, and 473 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: I went over there was just like fucking just the most. 474 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: It's like a party. I'm like, dude, all these people 475 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: now know how to get in the back of the studio. 476 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: But shout out to Hit, who's been on fire? You 477 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: and Hit would kind of go crazy if you just 478 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: like project with him and let him just be like, look, dude, 479 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to handle any of the production. Let's 480 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: let's just cook. I'm gonna do what I do. You 481 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: do what you do? That'd be crazy. What has been something? 482 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: You know? 483 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: I always talk about how dope Empire is and Nima 484 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: and Ghazi those guys. You've been around some incredible minds 485 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: in the music industry, but is there anything dope You've 486 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: been able to kind of take away from being being 487 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: over there and working closely with uh what I'd like 488 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: to call the gruesome twosome Gazi and Nima. I mean 489 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: that a positive way. 490 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: I think I just got my foot in the door 491 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: over there, so you know, I'm still learning in the 492 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: ropes only put out a couple songs so far. Luckily 493 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: we made it to the point where we can put 494 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 2: out a full body of work. But my experience there 495 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: has been nothing but amazing so far. I've been working 496 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: real close with Jada and Gentry as far as the album, 497 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: you know, putting it out, and they've been helping me 498 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: with different activations like I'm more about the like fan 499 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: engagement for sure. 500 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: How can we always done? 501 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? How can we you know, tap into the community 502 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: and the fans. So we've been able to do some 503 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: cool stuff like for Mother's Day we did the Lamart 504 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: Park Mothers Giveaway. I saw that, you know, stuff like that. 505 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: I'm finna do something for my elementary school in LA 506 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: and then some for my high school and the Ie Fire. 507 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, there's been some cool activations going on. 508 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: Where do you feel like West Coast Music what's West 509 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: Coast aside? LA music is right now because we had 510 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: this like huge moment with Kendrick and the pop out 511 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: and Sisson Kendrick tour in the super Bowl, and I 512 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: feel like, uh, Shoreline has done a really good job 513 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: of kind of like stepping up to the plate and 514 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: like delivering records and delivering you know, some tour stuff. 515 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: But I feel like, as in a totality like LA music, 516 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if it fully took advantage of. 517 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: Like the catch at that moment you're talking about, like 518 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: the album or just. 519 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: I mean just like the music that came off of it. 520 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: Like I felt like like it was the time for 521 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: everybody to like come super correct with like records, and 522 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: I just felt like only a few people kind of did. Yeah, 523 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: But I wonder what your thoughts are just on where 524 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: LA hip hop is now, because Bro, look, I mean 525 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: you've kind of been the face of it, like you 526 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: and Roddy, I think are the two guys that kind 527 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: of carried the city on the radio outside of Kida 528 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: for the last six years. 529 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say this. I think it's all perception 530 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: of what you feel LA is because sometimes we kind 531 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: of contract contradict ourselves and hyper focus on one segment 532 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: of what LA is like, we still got other people 533 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: going crazy and have been going crazy during the whole. 534 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: Tyler the creator exactly. 535 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: I gotta say, Tyler, Tyler dojah kat, You're right Tiger still. 536 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: That because I like, literally just fucking Tiger. No ship Tiger, 537 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: but Tyler exactly. 538 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 2: Even Shortline Mafia they doing arenas and ship like that. 539 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: So going crazy. 540 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: So when you hyper focus on one little underground, you 541 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: know obviously it's gonna be trials and tribulations because it's 542 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: a big gap between a Kendrick Tyler versus was bubbling 543 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: in the streets of LA. But I think like more 544 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 2: collaborations like what Kendrick did. I think that helps out 545 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 2: a lot. You see a z Chik Finna go crazy. 546 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: Just waiting for needs to just drop. I heard his 547 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: album is fucking crazy. I think it's done. 548 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 2: Man, I'm waiting for it. I'm waiting for Roddy to 549 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: drop again. 550 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: The Navy album. Please, yes, please, have you heard any 551 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: of it? No? 552 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 2: Not at all, man, They top secret over there, shout 553 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: out Kifa. 554 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Uh you know what one of my 555 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: what's the the hand of God record you had God with, 556 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: it's one of your best. I think that might be 557 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: my favorite song. 558 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 2: Heres, bro, that song is so fucking cold. Bro. Shout 559 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 2: out Ramble too. Niggas gotta pop out side. That's what 560 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 561 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: It's like like Ramble did the pop out. 562 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: Ain't gonna lie. Sometimes I'd be like I'd be feeling 563 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: like I'm the only one, because I do feel like 564 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 2: part of the success got to be when other people 565 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: going crazy at the same time when you going crazy, 566 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 2: because that helps the momentum. 567 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: I feel like you've done such a great job of 568 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: doing music that aesthetically is true to LA but also 569 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: it's commercially viable nationwide, and I think Roddy did a 570 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: good job of that. Obviously Kendrick has done a good 571 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: job of that. But I think it's like I feel 572 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: like a lot of I think YG has done a 573 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: good job of that throughout the years. But I think 574 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: it's like being self conscious of like you could do 575 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: the West Coast Chitlin circuit, which is like all the 576 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: way up to Seattle and then probably the Texas, New Mexico, 577 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: obviously Phoenix, Denver. But it's like, how do you do, 578 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: like New York sell it out? How do you do, 579 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: Dayton Ohio? I want sell it out in Miami, you 580 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I remember you guys did that 581 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: that Red Bull event in Miami Rolling Loud weekend, like 582 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Yeapy, that shit was a movie though. 583 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 2: Bro I sold out in London. I think it was 584 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 2: like a two thousand venue before and that was around 585 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: the time when I only did the Roxy out here. 586 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 587 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: So it's like moments like that I attribute to like 588 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 2: Roddy Rich going crazy as well, because it's in the 589 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 2: same eCos same with Beano or Kalin, Like that wave 590 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: when we was all pushing at the same time, even 591 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 2: if we wasn't directly collaborating, it was just a momentum 592 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 2: wave that was also. 593 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: Like very similar like Vibe where everybody's melodic, everybody can sing, 594 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, great songwriting, you know what 595 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying? 596 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 597 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: Would you and you know, have you guys talked about 598 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: doing another six tape? 599 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: Oh for sure? 600 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know he's got prolific. Got to put out 601 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: with Nipsey. 602 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's at the top of my list. You know, 603 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 2: we just got to get on the same accord. But 604 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 2: I want to do fifty six, says I want to 605 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: work on six tap fifty one because I felt like 606 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: that's kind of a barrier. We gotta push instead of 607 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 2: just doing three, four or five tapes, like how many? 608 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: How long can we go? 609 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: I feel like you guys need to do the next one, 610 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: and then when you do it, do like a like 611 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: a little sixth city run do fucking Yeah, do La, 612 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: do Phoenix, do fucking Vegas, do the brooklye Vegas, do 613 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: the Bay. 614 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 2: We actually did that for six tap three, did you. Yeah? 615 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 2: We went on small little I think it was only 616 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: like four dates. Seattle, Vegas, La, Seattle, be going up 617 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: dog Yeah, Seattle. I love Seattle. I always, not always, 618 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: but my first tour. I started there when I first 619 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: ever toured, and the energy just was contagious. 620 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: So Fade brings you out. You go to Columbia. How 621 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: is Columbia? I heard it as a movie. 622 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was crazy, but I was only out there 623 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: for like maybe twenty four hours. 624 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: Match so you went in and did what you do, 625 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: got the funk out? 626 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean but it was fun though different world. 627 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: It was a different world. It was hell of traffic. 628 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: I feel like I didn't get the full experience stuff 629 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: because we just was sitting in traffic, went to soundcheck, 630 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: went back to the room, and going back to the 631 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: room took like three hours just sitting in traffic. Then 632 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: we went back to the venue. Was it. 633 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: No that the beaches? 634 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: I think right, Yeah, it was beautiful out there. 635 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: What besides Columbia or has there been a what's the 636 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: craziest place your music is taking you? 637 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: I would say places like Amsterdam, Paris, Australia. I would 638 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: say Australia was the funniest show. Melbourne, Sydney. I did 639 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: a show in Gold Coasts and these was all my 640 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: personal tours. 641 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: They're like eighteen hours ahead or some ship. 642 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just crazy. 643 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: They're like living in tomorrow day time. 644 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, ahead of time. 645 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: It's like an up side down America. That's what I heard. 646 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: I said that when you flush the toilets that go backward, Yeah. 647 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: Because they're like it's like an americanized ass place from 648 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: what I hear. 649 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they tapped. They love LA culture too, like more 650 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: than any other I don't know what it is, but 651 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: Australia they like super tapped in to like underground LA shit. 652 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, they got the wildest animals there. Man, I'll be 653 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: found all these YouTubers and beyond. They're out there. They 654 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: just be fucking catching, fucking sharks and steam raising ship. 655 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: My only thing I ain't see one kangaroo out there. 656 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: That'd be disappointing. I'd be like, I need to go 657 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: see we need to hit this whatever they call the Safari. 658 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: I need a kangaroo. They got koala bears out there. 659 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: I ain't see not one exotic animal. Man. 660 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: Shout out to Raffi Law Group, our family. Yes, it's 661 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: been so dope to partner with, you know, such a 662 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: name and brand and somebody who I actually am a 663 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: customer of. Shout out to Raffi Law Group, man Arizona's 664 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: premier personal injury law firm. And I don't just put 665 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: my name on anybody. When we do this stuff on 666 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: the Bootleg cap podcast and you see us partnering with brands, 667 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: we're very selective about who we connect with. And Raffi 668 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: is someone who's actually helped my family, helped my wife 669 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: get a settlement, all right, has helped over seventy thousand 670 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: people in Arizona. No matter what happens. Man car accident 671 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: crash injury. You maybe get bit by a dog. I 672 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: don't know, whatever it is. Raffi Law Group makes the 673 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: process less stressful. They put money in your pocket. Yes, 674 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: the name you can trust. You already know, man, Raffi 675 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: Law Group. Save the number just in case, because hey, 676 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: you get into a car accident tomorrow, you gotta call 677 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: Raffi six two three three eight eight four three three 678 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: three and want to wish a big happy birthday to 679 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: Raffi's just celebrated his fortieth birthday. We had a good 680 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: time in Vegas. Fifty cent was there, pauly D was there, 681 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: mad Rich was there. E c Rock was there. It 682 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: was a movie, all right, Secretary of State was there. 683 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: We were just hanging out. Man shot, look shout out 684 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: to Brandon Raffi. Don't forget Raffi log The only calling 685 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: you to make. If you're an az and you get 686 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: into an accident, or you get into any sort of 687 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: injury situation, they'll take care you immediately. Call Raffie. Baby. 688 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: Let's get back to the podcast. Have you done the 689 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: Tokyo run yet? 690 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: No? 691 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: Really? 692 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: Yes? 693 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, we gotta make that happen. I got the 694 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: homies out there of the Bookie Yeah, connect me Tokyo 695 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: is a movie, bro. 696 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: I've been trying to get out there since it's twenty twenty. 697 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: It is a movie out there. Yeah, what if you 698 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: weren't doing music full time and you were forced to 699 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: explore other professions? What do you think you gon up doing? 700 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: Probably be like a director or more so like an editor, 701 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: or like a graphic designer. I like the tedious work 702 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: of putting the project together, so something like creative like 703 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: that probably be making not as much money as I 704 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: am now. 705 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: Doing helping creative direction. Or do you feel like AI 706 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: is kind of fucking up the game a little? Because 707 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: man is it's crazy. 708 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: Is definitely a gift that a curse, but you know 709 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 2: it depends on how you you can use it or 710 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: abuse it. So the ones who abusing it is definitely 711 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: fucking up the culture. 712 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I'll see, like I do these 713 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: new music streams or people senmit music and it's like 714 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: the amount of ar artwork that looks like it's just 715 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,239 Speaker 1: it's just fresh out of chat GPT. It's like the 716 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: same font, the same style. 717 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, like, but that's how to be doing 718 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: the flyers now, to throw it straight in chat. 719 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: GPT and it all looks the same exactly. It is diabole. 720 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: Do you think there is because even like suit. 721 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: Is it suno soon o? 722 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, soon as a trip soun. 723 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: No, it was tough though. 724 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: I like using sono, So how do you use it? 725 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: So I play this is the thing. Whatever I'm using 726 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: sono is like something that I actually played, but it'll 727 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: just be an interpolation like if I play it on 728 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 2: if I played a piano or something, right, I say, 729 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: turn this into electric guitar or something like that. Ah, 730 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: So you know I use it to my tool as 731 00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 2: a convenience. 732 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel like it's the same thing with 733 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: like you know, even like like if you were to 734 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: you know, I use Claude to like put together deck 735 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: sometimes m hm. But I like it's still like my idea. 736 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like putting together the graphic. I'm like, 737 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: all right, put this graphic. It's just like to organize 738 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: it as close to like. But I do feel like 739 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: there's like this stigma that if you use AI at 740 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 1: all in any of the recording process, people like will 741 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: frown upon you. But I think that like it's the 742 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: same things when like Serrato first came out and DJs 743 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: were like shitting on people who had laptops and that 744 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: weren't carrying crates anymore. It's like, well, look I can, 745 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: I could do this, but it's a lot easier for 746 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: me to do. Like what you just said, if I 747 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: play something, I could just dump it in and it'll 748 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: just give it to me the way I want it. 749 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: It's a tool, and it's just it's more efficient. 750 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 2: I come from the generation when auto tune was just 751 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: a regular thing too. Can't stop at sooner and not 752 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 2: talk about auto tune so much different. You know, computers, 753 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 2: technology is gonna happen the inevitable. 754 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the AI thing is like you said, 755 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: it's a gift in a curse. 756 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 3: Man. 757 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: It's like, I think you can use it in ways 758 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: that can help me. I think even like I I 759 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe you would know this, But is there 760 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 1: AI mixing and mastering thing? 761 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think waves they got something to where you 762 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 2: could just upload a song and they give you three 763 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 2: different versions masters of which. 764 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: Some artists need that shit because some artists will be 765 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: dropping shit because and they I don't know who's mixing. 766 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: But I'm like, yo, fam, this shit, this shit sounds horrible. 767 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 2: Nah, you can. You can't just ai yo mixed though, 768 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 2: you still gotta no. 769 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: But if you're just like some random bruh like, listen, 770 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. We have these guys submitting songs once 771 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: a week at these streams, and the shits, the amount 772 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: of horrible mixes and masters that I hear where I'm like, 773 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 1: this is just unlistenable. Yeah, what are we doing here? 774 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 2: Get together? 775 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: Put it in ai Have you heard the new Phoenix 776 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: Flexing song that's gone viral? 777 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 2: No, I haven't heard it. 778 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: I need to get your reaction because this song is 779 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: it comes out tonight. 780 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 2: To get my reaction. 781 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: Man, it is the most viral song in Los Angeles, 782 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: and you're gonna be surprised that this is Phoenix Flexing. 783 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: It's a fucking vibe. It's called rubbers. 784 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 2: Okay, set shipships. Let me look right, my bucket's getting bigger. 785 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: Watch this movie. 786 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: Flood lockets sleep through. 787 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 2: Can't sleep through? They can't. They got no rhythm? Hard 788 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: this the whole song. 789 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a preview. 790 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, so when you start rapping, he don't rap. 791 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: It's an eighties fucking pop song. 792 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: Is that him singing? 793 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: It's Phoenix Flexing singing no Ai. No, he said no Ai. 794 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: I don't believe he. Look. 795 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: I saw him. I was backstage with him at the 796 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: show in uh Ontario. They sold out right at the 797 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: Hondason or whatever, and he's like Yo. He's like, I'm 798 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: doing a whole random project and he starts playing. So 799 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: he starts playing stuff and he's like, yo, let me 800 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: play some ship. He puts it up. You know, he's 801 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: got like ship like this, like some pop like rock ship. 802 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 2: I would say this, if that's really him, it's fire, 803 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 2: it's viral. If it's Ai, it's just Ai. 804 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: Don't it's not Ai. 805 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: But if he do a whole project like that and 806 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 2: he got to document the process, I. 807 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: Mean, listen, he says, it's not a I. It sounds 808 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: like him. 809 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 2: If you think about you know, he probably fooled you. 810 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 1: It comes out tonight on Empire Phoenix Flex gentry there. 811 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna think they're about to put a 812 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: real rocket ship behind this record. It's like the number 813 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: one song on Instagram. Don't think I got it. It's 814 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: going crazy. Phoenix Flex caught one Flexing is uh yeah, 815 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's it's gonna be It's called rubbers. 816 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: That's what's up, Phoenix flexing Rubbers. I think it's called rubbers. Yeah, rubbers. Yeah, 817 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: give me shooting videos and shit, it's been crazy. Are 818 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: you working on a tour all on the other side 819 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: of this? 820 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 3: So? 821 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely after the album come out. Definitely going 822 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 2: on tour, maybe like three months after yeah, having an announced yet, 823 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 2: so maybe even sooner than that. 824 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: Do you uh, do you feel like this album is 825 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: like a the most you've ever had a chip on 826 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: your shoulder for. 827 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 2: A project, chip on my shoulder, like I gotta remind 828 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 2: you motherfuckers what I do. 829 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: I don't. 830 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily feel like chip on my shoulder. It's 831 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: more so like, let me continue to do me, continue 832 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 2: to do what people already love me for. You know, 833 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 2: I don't feel like I gotta like reintroduce myself. I'm 834 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 2: just reminding people. But it's not like what a chip 835 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 2: on my shoulder? 836 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 1: Are you still managing yourself? 837 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: Yes? 838 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: Is that because some artists probably need a manager? But 839 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: I feel like you handle so much work yourself anyway. 840 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: But do you feel like is that something you would 841 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 1: suggest other artists try to do? No. 842 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 2: I mean it's not something that I'm like, I manage 843 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 2: myself like you know, but the fact that I'm able 844 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,919 Speaker 2: to I do take with pride. But I do think 845 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: it's important to have a team if you that's something 846 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 2: that I would highly recommend, especially if you finish think 847 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 2: you're just managing yourself and it's just you the artist, 848 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 2: you still got to have a team, Like I couldn't 849 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 2: do nothing I'm doing alone. 850 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it's like almost like if you're 851 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: an athlete. Like some athletes, it makes sense that they 852 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: decided not have an agent because they're pretty sharp and 853 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: figure it out. But then there's some guys where you're like, wait, 854 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: he don't got an agent. Like Ace Bailey came into 855 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 1: the league, and it's like uncle's homie was like agent 856 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: and it was like, so, yeah, I feel it's kind 857 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,280 Speaker 1: of similar. 858 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 2: But it's just taking my time with it though. You know, 859 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 2: I saw the Michael Jackson movie and it was crazy 860 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: because he didn't even have a manager at one point, 861 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 2: right it was just him and his attorney. I would say, 862 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 2: you having a relationship with your attorney is more than 863 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 2: more important than you. 864 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: Having a good attorney is very important yes, yes, someone 865 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: you trust exactly. Well, listen, Labor of Love is coming 866 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: out June twelfth. It's next Friday, June twelth, Is that right? Yep, yeah, 867 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: next Friday tour following hopefully in the next few months. Yeah, 868 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: hopefully we get a new six tape. Is this going 869 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: to be the last of the new music you drop 870 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six? Do you think you got some 871 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 1: more in you? I mean, obviously we're halfway through the year, 872 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: so you take care. 873 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 2: You never know, We never know. I'm staying creative for sure, 874 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 2: but you know, I like to take my time at 875 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 2: this point. I ain't got nothing to prove. I want 876 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 2: to put out the best bodies of work, best music. 877 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 2: So we'll see. 878 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 3: We got to give you these socks for mom, socks 879 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 3: because they put you on some socks. So oh odd 880 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 3: socks our sponsor from day one. There are the Blast 881 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 3: socks for you. 882 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 2: My man, where's my cut? 883 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: They're not for sale, They're just for you. 884 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 2: Where's my cut? 885 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: No, No, those socks are not They never sold those socks. 886 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 2: Hey, this ship is fired. I ain't lie. Yeah, socks, man. 887 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: They got the eagle pendent on there not an advertisement, 888 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, no, no, yeah, of course they're not 889 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: selling them without ye. They just were like, yeah, we 890 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: made some socks for Blast. That's dope. There you go. 891 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. 892 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: Well, listen, I appreciate you pulling up man. Go support 893 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: this guy's album, Labor of Love. Labor of Love out 894 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: June twelfth. Appreciate you. 895 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 2: You and I look good behind you every episode? 896 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: Man, have you noticed that? 897 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:46,760 Speaker 2: Every time? 898 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: Every episode? 899 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 2: I love it. 900 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: We got the Blast plaque. 901 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 2: We're gonna get you another one. 902 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: I need another one for Fox's sake. Please? What up? 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