1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: from house Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: the Sherpa. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Didn't I 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: just say Sherpa? No, he said welcome to the podcast. 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: Why would you say welcome to the Sherpa because the 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Sherpa is a nation of people and also a last 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: name and also an occupation. Yeah, that's pretty good. Well, 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: that's the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as always 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: as Charles W. Chuck Bryant to ignore Gay Bryant. Yeah, yeah, Chuck, 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: we're talking about sherp today. Yeah. Is it Sharpa or sharps? 12 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: Have no idea because I see both in this article. 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: I do as well. All right, let's find out, shall we? 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: Everyone will just hold on a second. Are you actually 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: looking this up? Chuck? Most people do this before there 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: hit podcast? Have you have you ever seen Well, I'm 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: sure this won't make it in. You never know, they'll 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: never make it in. Have you ever seen um? Indiana 19 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: Jones and the Temple of Doom? The first one that 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 1: was not the first one? Yes, it was that Raiders 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: the Lost Ark was first. That's what I meant. I'm 22 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: sorry Temple was too. What was they thinking, I don't know. 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: You've seen Raters of the Lost Ark. Yeah, okay, scores 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: of times. So you know when he find he goes 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: to meet Marian for the first time after like ten 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: years after Jiltinger. Yes, the drinking scene. Yes, the guy, 27 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: the huge guy that Marian is drinking with or I 28 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: guess in a drinking contest with. It's like they kept 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: hearing me say chuck over and over again. Right, Um, 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: that my friend was was it? I'm pretty sure he 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: looked Mongolian to me. No, they were definitely in like Nepal. Okay, yeah, 32 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: it's it, even said Nepaul. Remember he flies in the 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: plane a boop, and it's like takes him to Nepal. Yeah, 34 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: all right, so let's call him a Scherpa. So scher 35 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: Buzz is plural of Serpa. That's what I thought. I thought, 36 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: so too. Um. The Srpa people are actually pretty fascinating. 37 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: They're pretty isolated, um, and they haven't been where they are, 38 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: which is the base of Mount Everest in the um 39 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: Solu Kumboo area region of Nepal for more than actually 40 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: about five years, and when they arrived in the Solo 41 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Cumboo region, they found it uninhabited. And the reason why 42 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: is because the Serpas are pretty much the only people 43 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: on the planet besides maybe Ethiopian Highlanders or Peruvians in 44 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: the Andes who could conceivably live in this area because 45 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: again it's at the foot of Mount Everest. Yes, and 46 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: we recorded a podcast on Tibetans and altitude sickness, so 47 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: if you want to know all about that, refer to 48 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: that podcast. But Josh, you're right. They might grated from 49 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: Tibet from the province of Calm to the northeast corner 50 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: of Nepal around the sixteenth century because of warfare. Yeah, 51 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: and I as I understand, they're very peaceful people, oh 52 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: very so they would have been fleeing warfare, I would say, so, 53 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: not running toward it right headlong. So um, they migrated there. 54 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: There was a lot more like forest and wood and 55 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: fuel for fuel at the time, which was good. And 56 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: they could grow wheat and buckwheat at the time, and 57 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: that's about all they could grow, but that was enough. 58 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: Right later on, potatoes really changed the way they do 59 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: farming because they grow a lot of potatoes. Now, yeah, 60 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: the I think the potato was introduced in the mid 61 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: nineteenth century and that kind of changed everything eighty I'm sorry, um, 62 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: but if you think about it, this these people, well, 63 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: when they first arrived in the area, they moved to 64 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: um uh the Cumboo Valley, which is higher up actually 65 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: then um the Solu area, and it's about um, between 66 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: eleven thousand and thirteen feet and they're like, this is 67 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: a little too high. Everybody is a little sick. So 68 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna move a little further down to the Solu 69 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: region between it's still extremely high. Um, it's still extremely rocky, 70 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: and they whip this part of the Himalayas into shape. 71 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: They created um terraced farm fields Guatemala. Baby, remember that. Yeah, 72 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: down a slope you can create you can farm on 73 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: the side of a mountain. People do. But um, think 74 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: about this, I mean, like, how did they figure that out? 75 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: I'm very curious. Well, I mean it's you know, it's 76 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: not rocket science. You need flat land. And if you 77 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: have a steep side of a mountain and you cut 78 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: into that, you can create a series of steps essentially, 79 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: which is flat land. Cherishing their laughing. I would have 80 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: been in trouble cherius, like I've been the Guadamala three times. 81 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: I know all about step irrigation and then how to 82 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: do all this. I would have been like, man, I 83 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: wish it were around here. I guess I'll just sit 84 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: here until I die, right, Um. So, oh, I'd be 85 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: terrible at it. One of the reasons why I'd be 86 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: terrible at it is because I will get in my 87 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: car to drive five feet from say, store to store. 88 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: Do you do that over there at the Edgewood, Like 89 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: you've got a target and you'll drive to Kroger. I 90 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: haven't been there in a while, but I have. I have. Yeah, yeah, totally. 91 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: I mean like I'll walk. I walk more now than 92 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: I ever had before in my entire Like the weather 93 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: or what's going on. Definitely depends on whether it depends 94 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: on my schedule. Very often I get that if I'm 95 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: in a hurry, I might do that, right. I would 96 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: make a terrible strip of though, because they don't have 97 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: wheeled anything there. A terrible stripper. I would make both terrible. Okay, yeah, 98 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: well I know what Aaron Cooper is going to make 99 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: this time exactly. Um, yes, as I just said, I 100 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: think I think it bears reiterating, Um, Mr joke guy. 101 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: There are no wheeled anything's there. There's no cars, there's 102 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: no wheelbarrows. Yeah, they don't even use wheelbarrows, which now 103 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: we've reached another reason I would be a terrible shirt. 104 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: But they have to carry everything. I can barely carry 105 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: a thing a dog food out of the grocery store 106 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: to my car. And that's like with a car involved, 107 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: which has wheels, which they don't have in the Solukumboo region. 108 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: That's right. They carry everything, Josh, and they use uh 109 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: we actually saw this in Guatemala. To the plumb line 110 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: Trump wine, Trump line, it's home line is a little different. 111 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: What they'll do is they'll, let's say, get a big 112 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: load of firewood and they'll they'll they'll wrap it up 113 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: in in a spanking on the bottom, spanking on the bottom. 114 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: They'll wrap it up and so they can wear it 115 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: on their back and a big bundle and then attached 116 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: to the top of of you know, let's say they 117 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: lay it in like a hammock and fold that over 118 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: a hammock like thing and then and that is attached 119 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: to a band that you know, it's like a headband 120 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: and so it goes around their head and it takes 121 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: a lot of the weight off their back. And we 122 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: saw these and Guatemala dudes walking up the road and 123 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: I thought, man, look at that. That's like ancient engineering 124 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: still in practice. And you're like, man, I want to 125 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: I gotta do more of that. And you got back 126 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: here and you're like, give me a cheeseburger and my 127 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,559 Speaker 1: Jan Sport backpack. Anybody who's ever seen the front cover 128 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: of um led Zeppelin four is familiar with this concept 129 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: as well. Was he wearing one of those? He should 130 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: have been if he wasn't, because that's a big old 131 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: bundle of sticks that guys carrying. There was a bustle 132 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: in his head drawn So um Srpas can whip a 133 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: mountain into farmland. They can live on buck wheat and 134 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: then several hundred years without the potato, and then the 135 00:07:53,800 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: potato and yak yak milk and yack meat, yeack. They everywhere, 136 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: but they carry things everywhere. Um with the acts they 137 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: and they they are basically a mountain, their mountain folk. 138 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: They had. They speak a Tibetan dialect that's virtually their own. 139 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: They don't have a written language, no written language. Until 140 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties, there's no formalized education. Um, they just lived. 141 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: They carved a very meager existence out for themselves. And 142 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: thanks to a dude named Sir Edmund Hillary, they now 143 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: have the foundation that he set up. And we'll get 144 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: to Edmund Hillary in a second, but everyone, come on, 145 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 1: you know who he is. He's the first mandous and 146 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: everest with tin signor sharpa to summit to summit, what 147 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: I say, I send? Yeah, I mean, what's this? You 148 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: gotta get to the top, right or else? What? He 149 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: just blew sixty five grand That's about how much it 150 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: cost the day. So through his foundation in later years, 151 00:08:54,880 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: he he became to love the uh peaceful Buddhist of 152 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: of the shirt of people there, and so he's like, 153 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, and except the foundation, we're gonna do things 154 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: like bring some schools, bring some hospitals, give these kids 155 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: access to healthcare, things like that. So he did that 156 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: and that helped a lot, although nowadays, you know, the 157 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: schools aren't in great shape. Evidently it's kind of hard 158 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: to get there. So um, they're they're doing the can right. 159 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: You can take the folk out of the mountain but 160 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: you can't take the mountain out of the folk, you 161 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean? That's right. Uh, they are very friendly, 162 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: very peaceful, UM, very compact, very strong, great attitudes apparently, 163 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: And that's not just Chuck saying that, Um, Chuck, you're 164 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,239 Speaker 1: basing that on the guy who basically took these very isolated, happy, 165 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: UM self sustaining, self sufficient UM people, mountain people, um 166 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: and introduced them to the world, or no, introduced them 167 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: to the people who would introduce them to the world, right, right, 168 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: What is the Englishman who's credited with saying, Hey, if 169 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: you want to get up Everest, do you need yourself 170 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: as serpa? That was Alexander Kellis, not tensign Or, not 171 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: Sir Edmond Hillary. Right, Well, ten Signor was as far 172 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: too modest. I'm under the impression to have been like, 173 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: you want to get up Everest, you get yourself a 174 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: serpa sherpa store. They're not big self promoters. The English 175 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: have been the biggest promoters of um sherpas and um. 176 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: Alexander kellis what's his name? He tried to make it 177 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: up Everest and failed. But um, there was a there 178 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: was a point in time where well, if you look 179 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: at a mountain. It's not like a cone. You know 180 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: those um styrofoam cones that you can get at like 181 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: the craft store that have like actual volume. It's a 182 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: it's a cone. The mountain is not like that. It 183 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: has all sorts of craggy peaks and different faces. And 184 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: if you go up one side and make it up easy, 185 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: just that doesn't mean that you can go up any 186 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: other side and make it up easy. Right. So the 187 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: place where the the Sherpa live is actually a pretty 188 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: good way to get up Everest, but it was closed off. 189 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: Nepal as a country was closed off to the rest 190 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: of the world until I think nineteen forty nine. Yeah, 191 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: Everest was confirmed as a high speak in eighteen sixty five, 192 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: But it wasn't like all of a sudden the floodgates 193 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: were open and every brit in the world said, I 194 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: must conquer that mountain. That they said that, but they 195 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: were like, but how to get to it? And they 196 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: happened right, But in between they're like, well, let's just 197 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: colonize that place and then figure out how to get 198 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: up exactly true, And uh, when India began uh colonizing, 199 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, when England began colonizing India. Darjeeling across the 200 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: eastern border of Nepal was a big popular tourist spot 201 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: for British military political officials. That's where the big wigs, 202 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: that's where they met uh, the Sherpa. And that's sort 203 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: of where the mountaineering profession for the Sherpa kicked off, 204 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: because all of a sudden they were Englishman saying I 205 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: can now get in here to ascend and summit this mountain, 206 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: but I need some help because I'm not carrying all 207 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: that junk. Yeah, and it's not like Sherpas are the 208 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: only ethnic group around Mount Everest. But as people soon found, 209 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: like you said, they were sturdy, they are a compact, 210 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 1: they can carry tons of weight and they have a 211 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: cheerful attitude. So Alexander Kellis introduced the the climbing community, 212 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: the Western climbing community, to the Sherpa, and in short order, 213 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: Um Sherpas became extremely famous after, like you said, Sir 214 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: Edmund Hillary uh summitted um Mount Everest. Yeah, and he 215 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: was one of four people on that expedition. I never 216 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: knew that. I just thought it was Sir Edmund Hillary 217 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: got in his car in England and drove to Nepal 218 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: and said, hey, ten Zig, take me to the top. 219 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: But it was a big group of people and they 220 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: were the only two that made it right there. They 221 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: were the last ones and they just kept on go. 222 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: But yes, it was tens Ignore Gay Sherpa. That's his 223 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: last name. Yeah, because as you said at the beginning 224 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: of this, it's it's a it's a group of people, 225 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: it's a profession, and it's a last name. That's right. Um, 226 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: So at that from that moment on, everybody knew what 227 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: Sherpas were, right, Yeah, they were no longer confused with 228 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: al pacas. By in popular culture, people were like, oh, 229 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: they're a group of people, literally, the people from the east, 230 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: that's right. And they, like you said, don't they're not 231 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: grand standards. They don't get a lot of attention. And 232 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: I made a joke, Um, I believe it was either 233 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: dead bodies on everest or the Tibetan altitude sickness about 234 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: Sherpas being unsung at the time, about how you always 235 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: hear about, you know, the Indian or the brit standing 236 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: on top of the mountain and you don't see the 237 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: sherpa behind him carrying all their junk and that's really 238 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: true because when uh, you know what I mean, uh, 239 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: when Hillary ascended and summited, he got a knighthood and 240 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: Norgay got an honorary medal, and you think, well, of course, 241 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to give the British guy the 242 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: knighthood and they're going to give the foreigner a medal. 243 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: Untrue because sirmon Hillary is from New Zealand. He wasn't British, 244 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: so technically he wasn't a a citizen of Great Britain 245 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: and neither was tens ignore gay, and they still didn't 246 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: get the same thing. Yeah, it was. It was called 247 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: the British Everest Expedition was the four People. So that's 248 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: why I think a lot of people probably thought Hillary 249 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: was a brit but he was not. But again, um, 250 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: our Western culture is a little different from Sherpa culture. 251 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: They like you said, they're not grand standards, they're not 252 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: publicity hounds. They are um they do. The ones who 253 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: are involved in climbing and trekking do make a pretty 254 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: substantial amount of money, especially in comparison to what the 255 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: average person makes in Nepal. They think about two rand 256 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: for a trip, right, and that the gross domestic product 257 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: per capita of Nepal in two dozen sevens like three dollars. 258 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: That really puts into perspective. They're rich by other standards, 259 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: I guess, extremely rich, very wealthy, um. But they they 260 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: the I guess in addition to making money, they they 261 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: help other people ascend Everest to attain their personal glory, 262 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: right too, for the other people to attain their personal story, um, 263 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: which is kind of there's a lot of dichotomy between 264 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: how the Serpa view Mount Everest and how they interact 265 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: with it. That the Western influence kind of puts them 266 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: in this weird position because they are they follow a 267 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: form of Tibetan buddhism um which says that you should 268 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: perform selfless acts and help others, right, Yeah, And and 269 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: being at the top of Everest to them means you're 270 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: closer to enlightenment. Right. If the people are going to 271 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: climb up anyway, you might as well go with him 272 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: for two grand sure, but you might as well go 273 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: with them to make sure that they don't kill themselves. Right, 274 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: very selfless people, it is. But at the same time 275 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: they're helping the West kind of exploit Everest. That some 276 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: people worry that the Everest experience is being cheapened since 277 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: since Hillary um summited Everest, I think like more than 278 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: twenty other people have. Right kind of loses its um 279 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: closeness to the Buddhas when you know all these other 280 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: footprints are everywhere and there's a couple hundred dead bodies 281 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: on the on the mountain. Yeah, I think uh Nor 282 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: Gay kind of summed up there how they feel about 283 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: Everest when he called it. When they asked him how 284 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: he felt about being up there, and he he likened 285 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: it to a mother hint and said what else? He 286 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: said that this was um quote warm and friendly living. 287 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah? And then Hillary shoved him back down. 288 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: He's like, quiet to get out of my picture. Right, No, Gay, 289 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: here's your medal. Uh So, like you said, the um 290 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: the region now, Josh, because of the massive amounts of 291 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: tourism and not massive like Grand Canyon massive obviously, but 292 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: still for Mount Everests it's a lot of people going 293 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: there trying to climbate. Um. We did talk about pollution 294 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: there now, and so the very thing that brings the 295 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: Tibetan Buddhist Scherpa's enlightenment is also kind of denigrated the area. Somewhat. Yeah, well, 296 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: it's about twenty people pass through that area per year, 297 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: and now you can go play pool. You have internet access, 298 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: you have the trappings of modern living, and you also 299 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: have the drawbacks of modern living. Deforestation, yeah, pollution, yeah, exploitation, 300 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Al Right, that's right, And this 301 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: is what we should point out in uh Sagara Maatha 302 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: National Park where about thirtys live and sagar Matha is 303 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: the word for Everest, right, the the SRPA themselves call 304 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: um Everest Chomo Lungma, Chimo Lungma, chumba womba. It's close, no, 305 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: but that's not it, Okay, Chomo lugma, which means roughly goddess, 306 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: mother of the world or mother hen Uh. You want 307 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: to talk about a couple of famous repos. Yeah, we 308 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: can talk about Edmund Hillary all day long, but you 309 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: never hear about Appa Serpa. Yes, and all he's done 310 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: is ascend in summit ever seventeen times more than anybody 311 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: else in the world. Not bad. What about Babu uh 312 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: cheery Chaherri Sharpa. Yeah, camped on the summit of Mount 313 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: Everest for twenty one hours without oxygen. Usually what happens 314 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: when you climb Everest as you get your picture made 315 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: and you say, wow, this is really unbelievable. This is amazing. 316 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: All right, let's go back down right and you have 317 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: five million canisters of oxygen and disposing. I'm really high. 318 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: Who else there's a lock Lockpa Galu Sherpa who holds 319 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: the world record for the fastest mount Everest um sent 320 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: ten hours fifty six minutes in seconds. That's a lot 321 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: that man. Wow, you have Ming keep a sharpa who oh, 322 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: what's the big deal with Ming? Ming just climbed Everest 323 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: at the age of fifteen years old, not on his 324 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: xbox in real life. And then there's Pessang Lambu Schrpa, 325 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: who was Chuck the first woman which apparently, um, when 326 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: women started climbing Everest or serving as sherpas to climbing expeditions, 327 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: um in the seventies, there was uh, this is probably 328 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: the biggest problem internally for the Sherpa's that um, you know, 329 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: Western tourism was was having on their culture. You know, 330 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: a woman's place traditionally is at the farm in Sherpa 331 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: culture on the side of the mountain. And I guess 332 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: there was some static for a while, and then finally, 333 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: you know, more and more women started doing it and 334 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: we're doing it successfully. And um, that was that. Yeah. 335 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: And and evidently, um, when the husband, if the husband 336 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: is that the sharpa worker, um, goes on one of 337 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: these trips, then the female becomes ahead of the household 338 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: at home if she's not a sharper herself, and we'll 339 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: take care of things just like the husband would. It's nice, Yeah, 340 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: Yet what else is here? I love these people. I 341 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: think we would be you have a fun place in 342 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: her that they remind me the people of Guatemala, you know, 343 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: kind of short and friendly and warm, friendly, living stocky. Yeah, 344 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: it makes me kind of wonder there's so many similarities 345 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: Chuck that huh huh uh, Yeah, because think about it. 346 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: Everybody calls the people the spa, right, there are people 347 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: from the east, but that's in reference to where you 348 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: are in Solu Kumba Kumbo, right. What were they called 349 00:20:54,000 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: before they moved west? The people Mayan? Maybe? Uh. Finally, Josh, 350 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: for my part of this podcast, if you think that 351 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: is off the rail, do you think the sharp I 352 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: have it bad with not getting any recognition. There's also 353 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: something called a porter. Yeah, and a lot of sharps 354 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: grow up serving as porters. As porters, that's basically the 355 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: job below the sherpa, who does even more of the 356 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: heavy lifting and gets even less money and less oxygen 357 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: less clothing and other outerwear. Yeah. And there's an actual 358 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: international porters group, right, yeah, protection group that are advocates 359 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: for their safety and fair wages, because obviously, if you've 360 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: got a very poor person doing a lot of hard work, 361 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: they're probably being taken advantage of in some way. So, Chuck, 362 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: we would be remiss to do a podcast on the 363 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: serpa and Everest and Hillary Um and not mention the Yetti. 364 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: I don't know much about the YETI I didn't look 365 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: at that. So the Himalayas are the home of the Yetti, 366 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: the abominable snowman. It's another way to put it, which 367 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: is basically like the cold, extreme cold, high altitude version 368 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: of Bigfoot. Is that right? Yeah? Okay, I just always 369 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: thought that's what we thought of, but I didn't look 370 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: into it. No, it is pretty much. Um, it's a biped, 371 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: very furry, heavy, large biped that's mysterious and and lives 372 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: out and out by itself. It's big Foot, but in 373 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: the Himalayas. It's like in the Empire, like come off, 374 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: and it's more like the Abominable Snowman in the Rudolph 375 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: Christmas Specials. It looked kind of like the thing in Empire, 376 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: kind of who looks like wow. Um. Anyway, Hillary himself 377 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: is actually a believer in the yetti. He went back 378 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: after summiting Everest. He went back again in nineteen sixty 379 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: to look for the Yettie because he'd seen YETI footprints 380 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: what he took to be YETI footprints. Interesting. He found nothing, 381 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: though he didn't and a lot of people think that 382 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: these were just some other animals footprints that melted in 383 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: the snow and expanded as the snow melted. Who knows YETI. Again, 384 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: you have taught me something, my friend. Thank you for that, 385 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: because I couldn't figure out how to wrap this one out. 386 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: I feel like we should apologize for the light nature 387 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: of this, But we just recorded right before this on 388 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: the nuclear disaster in Japan, so I think we were 389 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: rife for a little. Plus. Also, we should point out, 390 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: in true Sherpa style, chuck this way. Well, think about this. 391 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: They there there there are all sorts of trappings of 392 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: Western influence and degradation of culture. Um, there is a 393 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: dwindling of population. I think at its peak this area 394 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: was home to thod people. Now it's down to thirty, 395 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: like you said, in them in the park right. Uh 396 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: the the there was a National geographic survey of Sherpas 397 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: saying are you concerned about Western influences on your culture? 398 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: And they were like not overly? Can you heard me? 399 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: The teeth over remote you're sitting on it. If you 400 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: have any mountain dew or so, that's a spas. If 401 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: you want to read more, Um, there's actually some more 402 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: in there, especially um, more on the Buddhist religion. I 403 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: believe we didn't cover that fully. Um. Yeah, there's more 404 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: goodness in there for sure. Yes, you can type in 405 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: serpa's or sharpa if you want to be safe in 406 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: the handy search bar at how stuff works dot com, 407 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: written by Christen Kner of stuff Mom never told you. 408 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: That's right, that's true. Excellent podcast. Yes it is a 409 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: great and we did a great job at south By 410 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: Southwest did um? And since I said handy search bar 411 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: and south By Southwest, that means it's time for listener mail. 412 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: That's right, Josh, this is a little more Disney dirt, 413 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: and that most of the Disney dirt we got wasn't 414 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: very good. We got a bunch of Yeah, there's really 415 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: nothing going on there. There's underground tunnels, but that's no 416 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: big deal. And it's really not like you guys think. 417 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: We find only got a pretty good one. This is 418 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: from m and m Um seems like she would have 419 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: been one of the employees that I might have been 420 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: hanging around with that know about the dirt. Some people 421 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: apparently don't even know about this stuff. I hope we 422 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: don't get in trouble for this hang out. Hey, guys, 423 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: I just finished listening to the Tickling podcast, excited that 424 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: you asked for Disney dirt. As a cast member at 425 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: the Happiest place on Earth for almost four years, I 426 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: gleaned some interesting tidbits of information for starters. In a 427 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: work room behind Pirates of the Caribbean, there exists an 428 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: infamous Milar table, which has a long standing reputation for 429 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: being a favorite place for cast members to be amorous 430 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: with one another after hours. I can't imagine how clean 431 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: such table might be, but many cast members have been 432 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: known to participate in the tradition simply for the sake 433 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: of being part of the legends. For like the Mile 434 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: High Club. I guess on my attraction, the Jungle Cruise, 435 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: it said that one can't be a real skipper until 436 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: they have urinated into the river. No, she says, I 437 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: suspect it as much about you know, you can, you 438 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: can create the uh what what is it the most 439 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: what happens happiest place on Earth? But if you staff 440 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: it with board and nihilistic twenty year old, it's going 441 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: to end up like this. Yeah, someone's going to be 442 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: in the river. Most of the time. This is done 443 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: before after park operating hours, when a skipper can take 444 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: out a boat alone and relieve him or herself, often 445 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: into the hippo pool. So you can imagine it's harder 446 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: for girls to participate in this rite of passage out 447 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: of sheer logistics. But I do know some women who 448 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: have managed to become real skips. I think it'd be 449 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: more physics than logistics, she says. The mechanics foggles my mind. 450 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: Now for the gnarly stuff under Space Mountain, there are 451 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: stored sixty tho body bags. Supposedly they're there in case 452 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: of a natural disaster or some other emergency where people 453 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: may be trapped inside the park for an extended period 454 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: of time. I don't believe that. I don't believe it either. 455 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 1: The food freezers in the storeroom down the hall are 456 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: also over six ft tall for storage, if you know 457 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's quite morbid and a popular site 458 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: for telling ghost stories. I've got plenty more if you 459 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: want some off the record ghost stories. This was on 460 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: the record geez or personal anecdotes for my time as 461 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: a jungle cruise skipper. I'd be happy to share. Keep 462 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: up the great work from m Well. I would love 463 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: to hear the off the record ones. What is her name? Yeah, 464 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: I'd like to take her to lunch? Yeah, well, please 465 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: at least send us an email. Okay, I don't think 466 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: we'd be allowed to go out to lunch with that 467 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: girl our significant others Um, Chuck, Josh, have you got 468 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: anything else? I'm done? All right? Um? What should we 469 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: call for here? How about if you've ascended Everest it's okay. 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