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Speaker 1: And that's what you Really missed with Jenna.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to you, and That's what you Really Missed podcast

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Speaker 3: our guest edition and we have a special WIM today.

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Speaker 4: Josh Sussman.

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Speaker 3: Jacob Ben Israel himself is here and it is a

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Speaker 3: really awesome, honest conversation about his experience, and I'm just

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Speaker 3: so grateful that he came on, and like, I hope

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Speaker 3: that he anyway, I let you listen and we'll talk

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Speaker 3: about it after.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was fully prepared to be as honest as

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Speaker 2: possible and we really really appreciate it. Hope you enjoy

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Speaker 2: our talk with JBI himself.

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Speaker 3: Josh, Hello, it's good to see you.

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Speaker 2: How's it going.

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Speaker 1: I'm very happy to be here.

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Speaker 4: Oh good, Well.

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Speaker 3: I ran into you recently at our favorite spot, and.

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Speaker 4: You are telling me.

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Speaker 3: Number one, that you listened to the show, which I

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Speaker 3: was very We're very grateful for, but also that you

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Speaker 3: your experience on Brittany Brittany, and we were like, you

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Speaker 3: have to come on the show. We've been meaning to

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Speaker 3: ask you anyway, but we were waiting for like some

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Speaker 3: more like juicy Jacob Ben Israel content, so and I

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Speaker 3: feel like Brittany really encapsulates that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that episode was crazy, and I guess I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: I prepared myself to share stories that I've never shared

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Speaker 5: publicly before. Wow, just on my experience of it all,

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Speaker 5: I figured it's this is the place to do it.

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Speaker 5: But I'll just just to give it just a tease.

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Speaker 5: I have never before that episode, I never experienced cyber bullying.

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Speaker 5: And being on g Lee has been the best thing ever.

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Speaker 5: But that show with what how Jacob was creepy and

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Speaker 5: obviously doing a great things. I got the most terrible

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Speaker 5: things written to me in large numbers, and it.

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Speaker 1: Made me so sad.

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Speaker 5: And that's what I've never vocalized, because who am I

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Speaker 5: to complain. I'm so lucky to beyond this fantastic show.

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Speaker 5: That's my favorite show and it's so good, and I

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Speaker 5: just couldn't comprehend because the show would deal with anti bullying.

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Speaker 5: And I'll just say, ninety nine percent of the Glee

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Speaker 1: It was pretty just okay, I'll go right into it

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Speaker 5: Here's a letter I received, Dear Josh Sussman, who plays

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Speaker 5: Jacob in Israel.

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Speaker 1: I want to punch you in the face.

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Speaker 5: Never mind, I want to punch you in the so

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Speaker 5: you can't ever procreate and have filthy kids like yourself.

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Speaker 5: You ruined what should have been one of the best songs, Toxic.

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Speaker 5: I hate you go die aby Wow.

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Speaker 4: Oh Josh, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: And I know I'm not looking for a pity party.

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Speaker 4: I'm just now, but that's horrible.

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Speaker 2: The advent of like Twitter and social media becoming you

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Speaker 5: And I would read everything, which is not smart and

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I had no issue with it. I assumed, oh,

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Speaker 5: But then a crafty there was like a sandwich truck

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Speaker 5: And then I was so good at making myself a sandwich.

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Speaker 5: But it's I was, Oh, they shaved me like I

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Speaker 5: I guess youthfully, that's crazy. But the only thing I

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Speaker 1: But it's still everywhere else.

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Speaker 2: It's also just wild where the passion that fans have

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Speaker 2: Josh and then there's Jbi, who was very much not you,

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Speaker 5: Think that there that we are so similar, and I

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Speaker 3: you're not looking for a pretty party. Like that's never acceptable.

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Speaker 4: And so it makes me very upset.

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Speaker 3: harder you know, these individual humans who chose to not

442
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 3: be so kind, but anyway.

443
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,959
Speaker 5: Always amusing that I can't believe someone would say that,

444
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 5: or having just off the rails, I witnessed things which

445
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 5: I can't believe.

446
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: Witnessed. And then I'll tell you this.

447
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 5: I was asked and try I was just to be

448
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 5: convinced to try to be part of this docu series,

449
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 5: which I said know to but they were trying to

450
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 5: tell me, Oh, it's.

451
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: Just a fun, feel good thing now, And I don't know.

452
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: They were very aggressive.

453
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know what you're hearing, so I said,

454
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 5: but I'm glad this is where I want to be

455
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 5: to tell my stories.

456
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 3: So yeah, it definitely these crazy other things that we

457
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 3: don't really speak of, like Voltevah. We were all obviously,

458
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 3: we were all approached about it, but it's very misleading.

459
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 3: And so we feel like we feel more responsibility on

460
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 3: this show to bring on the people like you who

461
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 3: help make this show so great and to talk about

462
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 3: the good times that we had and you know, just

463
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: all the really great memories and things that you know,

464
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: people have never heard from and they don't get to

465
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 3: hear from you and Max and you know.

466
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 4: All these great characters as much.

467
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 3: So it's it's nice to have you and.

468
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,239
Speaker 2: And without trying to put a spin on it, you know,

469
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: there's no sort of we're not we don't have to

470
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: do that. Just your experience is your experience, because it's

471
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: a gigantic community that it takes to put on a

472
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 2: TV show, to make a TV show happen, and everyone's

473
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: going to have a very different perspective of that and

474
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: so it's been really fascinating and humbling to have people

475
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: like you, you know, feel safe to come to give

476
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: you a perspective of your experience.

477
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jacob, tell me Jaco, Oh my god, I did it.

478
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 4: I did it again. I knew I was going to

479
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 4: do it on this. I don't.

480
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: It's the Jays, I think, Like I my brain sometimes

481
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: is like I just want to call you, Jacob. I'm

482
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 3: going to call you Jacob. So Jacob tell me, Josh.

483
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: Put the glasses.

484
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 4: Easy.

485
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: Tell me about your experience and being recognized, like obviously

486
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: the Grove was a very concentrated Glee fan event. Tell

487
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 3: me about yours with like the Outworld, I mean, as

488
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: the show blew up, what that was like for you?

489
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: And then also two parter recently, do you still get

490
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 3: recognized a lot or did you feel a resurgence when

491
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,719
Speaker 3: like it came back on the streamers.

492
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't feel like it ever really stopped. So there's

493
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: I mean, there's three things.

494
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 4: You're so rush.

495
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: I have a book, my big big afro.

496
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 5: I guess it's easy, but you know, I cut off

497
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 5: my hair and you'll see it in the when you

498
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 5: get to the season four.

499
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: Like I buzzed cut it.

500
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 5: That was like the biggest disguise because sometimes going to

501
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 5: the mall or whatever was overwhelming, Like I would try

502
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 5: not to go after con certain hours, like after cool

503
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 5: because I get the overwhelming And then when I cut

504
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 5: all my hair off, the recognition stopped instantly. Wow, And

505
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 5: so then it was interesting us, Okay, I wasn't used

506
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 5: to this, so this is nice. But then there was

507
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 5: a time I know, it really didn't come back, and

508
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 5: then I was like, oh, that's also because I'm not

509
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 5: working as much or I'm not on TV as much,

510
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 5: so I'd rather and I just want to get to

511
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 5: act and work so badly that I realize, Okay, I'd

512
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 5: rather have an overwhelming amount of recognition right if it

513
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 5: means I'm working and getting to do my dream and

514
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 5: do what I want to do. But so of the

515
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 5: three things I'll get recognized for Drake and Josh wizards angrily,

516
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 5: it's only always one of those three.

517
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: And sometimes people come up and they don't tell you

518
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: which it is.

519
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 5: Sometimes people come up and they just put their phone

520
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 5: in their face and want to take a selfie and

521
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 5: they don't even say anything.

522
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: Can you tell what when they come up like, what

523
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: show they're going to recognize you from?

524
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 5: Usually not, it's kind of sometimes I could guess from

525
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 5: my least favorite or The hardest thing is when someone says,

526
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 5: what do I know you from?

527
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: Oh?

528
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: God like that?

529
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 5: My go to answer is, well, maybe we go to

530
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 5: the same starbar. Because when I first moved out here,

531
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 5: I saw someone and he looked familiar and I asked

532
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 5: him if we knew each other and he said, well,

533
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 5: I have a recurring role on One Tree Hill and.

534
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: He said it so douchey, and I was like, I

535
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: never want to be that person.

536
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 5: So even though I think there's a ninety percent chance

537
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 5: they know me from Glee or something else, I unless

538
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 5: they say, hey, are you an actor? But then I

539
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 5: still don't want to say not because I'm being poyed.

540
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 5: But anyone is listening, Oh he's just listening his resume.

541
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 5: Yeah I was on this, I was on that knows

542
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 5: about I know. And then I just seem like I'm

543
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 5: just boasting about all the things that is not Like,

544
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 5: so if someone recognizes me at Disneyland, well I have

545
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 5: an annual pass, so maybe it's here. But then they think, no,

546
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 5: it's not that. But then I feel like, am I

547
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 5: misleading them? So it's it's tougher.

548
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: I do the exact same thing.

549
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 4: Yep, I did the same respond.

550
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: Exact same ways yours does. I'm like, oh, yeah, I

551
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: come in here a lot, so maybe it's just around here,

552
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: you know, if I'm at a Starbucks or restaurant or

553
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: something exactly thing. Yeah, because we've all lived here too

554
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: long and experienced too many people that.

555
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 4: Are just sure you're right. Yes, yeah, yeah, I get

556
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: that a lot.

557
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: I get that actually more than like the recognition. Recently,

558
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 3: it's like, have we met? I feel like I know

559
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: you from somewhere.

560
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, maybe maybe you never know, you know what.

561
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 5: But the weird the one that and it's been a

562
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 5: while that I've been getting this is you were my childhood.

563
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: And it's like, oh wow.

564
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 5: The first time, and the first time I heard that

565
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 5: was actually like ten years ago, I was like, wait what.

566
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: But you're like, well, it's also my childhood, so.

567
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 5: Exactly, So now I now it's it's very nice and

568
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 5: I think of all the best best thing and perk

569
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 5: of fame is that you get to make people happy.

570
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 5: Just even by having talking to someone for a minute,

571
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 5: you could tell it makes their whole days, Like why

572
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,959
Speaker 5: wouldn't you do that every time? And I'm such a

573
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 5: fan of movies and TV. I get excited when I

574
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,479
Speaker 5: meet people. And I remember meeting John Stamos and I

575
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 5: was on cloud nine talking to him and think he

576
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 5: was so nice and so cool. Yep and wait, and

577
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 5: then I realized that people who are excited after meeting me, Wait,

578
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 5: am I giving them the same feeling?

579
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 4: Right?

580
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: Wow?

581
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 5: Like I don't feel it because I don't feel like special,

582
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 5: but I understand that they're excited, and I just want

583
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 5: to give them a top notch experience.

584
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really nice because you're a good person.

585
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

586
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 4: Do you have a favorite memory of being on the show?

587
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 5: Being able to go to the Golden Globes with you

588
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 5: guys was and those part those parties where everyone was

589
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 5: there was like the coolest thing in the world. But

590
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 5: and I think just from like season one, I think

591
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 5: was a very special time, going from the obscurity of

592
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 5: not knowing to going to the SAG Awards, going to

593
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 5: those things and was but a favorite on set. You know,

594
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 5: I actually had so much fun during Toxic. I didn't

595
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 5: like the aftermath, Like that was fun watching you guys

596
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 5: and just being silly and yelling.

597
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: How much.

598
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 4: It was very funny. We just wanted to tell you this.

599
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: I hope this okay to say.

600
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 5: I went to I guess shortly after that air there

601
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 5: was an event for Glad at the London Hotel. It

602
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 5: was on the rooftop and I saw Ryan there and

603
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 5: he said, well, hello, controversy. You should have seen what

604
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 5: I cut out. So I so somewhere there's a much

605
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 5: more the vulgar and much more because.

606
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: He was directing, so I'm sure he was getting you

607
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: to do.

608
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 4: A bunch of different things.

609
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: Yes, that's fun. I don't know if they'll ever be

610
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: the I don't think so. Ryan doesn't bear all of

611
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 3: his secrets.

612
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 5: Okay, but I like doing the interviews and that was fun.

613
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 5: I liked, you know, my scenes with Rachel those.

614
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 4: I really liked.

615
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: You guys were good together.

616
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: Kevin.

617
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 5: Do you remember I shared a story when we were

618
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 5: together last year in Liverpool about a love note.

619
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: I got yes, and then.

620
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 5: I remember you were saying you started cracking up, like

621
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 5: I remember that, because what do you know?

622
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: Because I don't know very much.

623
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: I don't either, but I remember it happening like he

624
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: you got tell tell the story.

625
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: Okay, so this I've done two episodes.

626
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 5: I'm there from my third episode, throw Down, where I

627
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 5: have a lot of scenes with Rachel. It's the episode

628
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 5: where I want I blackmailed her for her panties or

629
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 5: went to write a bad review. As I get to

630
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 5: my trailer and there's a little sticky note said I'm

631
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 5: really looking forward to our scene and had a lipstick

632
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 5: kiss on the note and it was signed Leah Ah. Okay,

633
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 5: it never occurred to me that this was not from Leah.

634
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 5: I was just thinking, oh, this seems this Jenna here

635
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 5: laugh and people are just listening to the audio. Jenna

636
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 5: is the video? Jenna, did you know this story?

637
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: I vaguely remember this, and I vaguely remember.

638
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to remember who did it.

639
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: I remember part of it because there was a kiss

640
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: on it, right, yes, yes, red lipstick. Yes, And I

641
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: remember who did that.

642
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 5: I heard I said who it was before I heard

643
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 5: that Amber, which I've never discussed with I don't know.

644
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 5: I don't remember where I heard that, but I found

645
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 5: out years later.

646
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: So I'm just.

647
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 5: Thinking, oh, okay, I didn't know if Leah liked me

648
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 5: or not, or I didn't know like does she have

649
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 5: a crush on me? I wondered that, like, why is

650
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 5: she doing that? Or she just being friendly? So anyway,

651
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 5: I go up to Leah or like I told her,

652
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 5: I got your note. She has no idea what I'm

653
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 5: talking about. And she was like okay. She asked, okay,

654
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 5: what's where? What's She's waiting for the punchline because the

655
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 5: last time I was there I told her a joke

656
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 5: I did fun so she thought this is another one

657
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 5: of my corny punds.

658
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: But I was like no. I pulled it out of

659
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: my pocket and I handed it to her.

660
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 5: And she looks at it and she reads it. For

661
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 5: those who are want to she grabs it. She doesn't

662
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 5: say anything. She walks away and starts talking to it.

663
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 5: I think someone to hear and MA up and I

664
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 5: never heard any I never heard. She never told me

665
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 5: she didn't write it. And I realized, huh, this was

666
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 5: a prank someone.

667
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: You were really part of the show. We were all

668
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: pranking each other.

669
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 5: So here here's the thing. Was the prank on me

670
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 5: or was it on Leah? I used to think there

671
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 5: was a prank on me, but then I was thinking, oh,

672
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 5: that could be fun at Leah will make her think

673
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 5: that the.

674
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 2: Guy for one.

675
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 4: It's a two hander, that's for sure.

676
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: Do you remember it?

677
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to remember now and I feel like I.

678
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: Think it was Amber who did the kiss mark, but

679
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: I don't think she wrote it. I think someone got

680
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 2: her to kiss it.

681
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 4: I think so too, but I actually can't remember.

682
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: I'm going to do some digging.

683
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 4: We are going to try to find out.

684
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 3: We'll find out, yeah, but I do. I do remember

685
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 3: witnessing this like around me. So we'll dig. We'll dig

686
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 3: for sure.

687
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I want to find it. That's thirteen years later,

688
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 5: two thousand and nine.

689
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: I know, crazy right so fast?

690
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: I know it really has flown and it's sad, but

691
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: it's also really nice to reminisce like this.

692
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 5: I love that it's on Disney Plus so much, and

693
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 5: it's just so easily accessible.

694
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 4: BALI totally. What feeling does Glee leave you with?

695
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 5: You know, it's changed, It's an evolving thing where because

696
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 5: it goes from you know, so much this happiness, and

697
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 5: there was a time where there was also just a

698
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 5: lot of sadness where when I would think about it,

699
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 5: I would feel just very rejected, or I guess not included.

700
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 5: I pulled a picture on my phone. I just want

701
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 5: to show you that. Let mean, I feel like this

702
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 5: picture thanks for your sums up my Glee experience so well.

703
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 5: I don't know if you could see it, but it's

704
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 5: at the Golden Globes and I'm at the coolest party

705
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 5: in the world. But I'm very much on the outside.

706
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 5: But I'm so happy to be there, if that makes sense.

707
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 5: So but then I also, I mean, there was elements

708
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 5: of not feeling included, But then as the years went by,

709
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 5: I've also come to the understanding and realized that it's

710
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 5: not personal that you guys are together, you know, every

711
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 5: day in your rehearsals and singing and dancing, and you're

712
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 5: part of this very close.

713
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: And it things.

714
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 5: So it's not so much that I'm not included. It's

715
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 5: just that's a very extra special thing that's for you guys.

716
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 5: And at the time, I guess it could feel like

717
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 5: actual high school and there's clicks and so I didn't

718
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 5: feel like I fit in. So with some of that,

719
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 5: and then people I still you know, you see tweets

720
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 5: and stuff and people say things still and it gets

721
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 5: to me. But then overall last year when we went

722
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 5: to Liverpool, which Chen, I wish you could have went to.

723
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 5: It was That's an amazing experience that before that, I

724
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 5: was honestly feeling I guess down just on Glee and

725
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 5: it really, you know, lifted me up so much with

726
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 5: the people I met and just hearing the stories of

727
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 5: how it's affected people. So in season four, episode two,

728
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 5: I get beaten up.

729
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: By a wooden umbrella. I think, Kevin, you might have

730
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: witnessed this, and.

731
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 5: I took a massive beating, like it really hurt, but

732
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 5: pain is temporary, film is forever. And as I'm getting

733
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 5: beaten up, britt Heather Brittany is saying leave me alone, JBI.

734
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 5: And sometimes if ever I post something people or go

735
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 5: on TikTok, they'll comment leave me alone, Jbi, And then

736
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 5: I don't. I feel like, Okay, maybe they're just quoting

737
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 5: a line, but sometimes I feel like they hate me

738
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 5: and like because they'll comment and something that has nothing

739
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 5: to do with anything telling me leave them alone, or

740
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 5: if I comments on someone else's thing, right, And that

741
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 5: was also my least favorite scene because I really felt

742
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,959
Speaker 5: like I did get hurt, I was bruised, I led,

743
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 5: And so when they you and they're like, oh, I

744
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 5: love what he got beat up, or people are celebrating

745
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 5: and so and I hope not now that I'm saying

746
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 5: this on the podcast, I could imagine they'll come and

747
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 5: leave me alone because people they want and.

748
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: They know it gets under your skin. And I'm admitting

749
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: I would that one specific line. But I'm I had

750
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: no idea if I was going to be on this podcast,

751
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: and it was so meaningful.

752
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 5: To be included, and it really it makes me so

753
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 5: happy and it also just raises good feelings. I'm so

754
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 5: glad and I really I'm so yeah, I'm just beyond

755
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 5: grateful and for it to be here with you guys.

756
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: We're all on the same team and we appreciate you

757
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: being here. And I wish, you know, looking back, you

758
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 2: know what if we had, if we could have done

759
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 2: more to make you and Max and everybody feel included

760
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: all the time, and it's it's just so refreshing. I

761
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: think it important for you to get to like share

762
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: your experience and to trust us and to come on

763
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: here and you know, spend your time talking about all

764
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 2: this too.

765
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: That to us, Yeah, and everyone was always very nice.

766
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 5: I just want to think that I wasn't when you

767
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 5: you guys, weren't you know, like.

768
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 2: Me get jet is terrible.

769
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 4: No, But I think that thank you for sharing that too.

770
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: I think it's part of this podcast is like we

771
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: hope that this can be healing for people, like it's healing.

772
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 4: For us in many ways. And yeah, like Kevin said,

773
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 4: like I wish we were in a place where we

774
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: could have done more, but I don't think we were

775
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 4: even there either.

776
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: And and not to make excuses for any of it,

777
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: but I think we also within our circle sometimes felt

778
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: like there were clicks and we were left out. There

779
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 3: were you know, people on the cover of things and

780
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: we weren't and included in things that we weren't.

781
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 4: And it's hard to not take that personal.

782
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 3: It's hard to not think one, am I not I'm

783
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: not enough, I'm not doing enough, I'm not the you know,

784
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: the main one. Like it's it definitely gets to you,

785
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: especially when you're around it all the time, and it's

786
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 3: it's what you live and breathe, right, like it's just inevitable.

787
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 3: But I think over time, in hindsight able to look

788
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 3: at it like you were realizing it's not against you

789
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: and something personal, but it was something that we were

790
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: experiencing that was also like we, if you will, were

791
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: like trauma bonded in a very honest way. You know,

792
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: there was a lot that we were taking on that

793
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: didn't get to you know that only these people that

794
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 3: we saw every day understood.

795
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: And so I completely get.

796
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: That, just like with you and Max were you like

797
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: you and Max have a very similar experience, and so

798
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: it's like whether you need to, yeah, you like latch

799
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: onto those people who can understand this very specific and

800
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 2: weird experience.

801
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: It was so interesting.

802
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 5: There was another thing that because as it comes up

803
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 5: and down or as I'm feeling good, I remember during

804
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 5: when it was the tenth anniversary, there were some people

805
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 5: who posted some pictures celebrating ten years, and there were

806
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 5: two pictures that I saw that I was in and like,

807
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 5: I wasn't tagged, and so it made me, I guess

808
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 5: that's something that made me feel and invisible. I guess

809
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 5: without I won't I'm not going to say names, but

810
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 5: and I know social media is so silly, but there's

811
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 5: some people I've.

812
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: Never been acknowledged.

813
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 5: And I know that people have so many and maybe

814
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 5: they miss it, but I because sometimes I feel like

815
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 5: I'm one of the run of this group. But then

816
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 5: you don't feel and I always wondered, huh, why not?

817
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 5: And it's like, and I could make you feel bad,

818
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 5: but then I know that's so silly if you're paying

819
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 5: attention to who follows.

820
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 3: Right, But it's inevitable at our day and age and

821
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 3: to not you know, it's like, that's that's your your feelings,

822
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, They're they're honest, and they're

823
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 3: real and they're yours and that's what makes them true,

824
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 3: you know.

825
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 4: And so I just.

826
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: Hope that you feel included and you feel that Gale

827
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 3: couldn't have happened without all of us and you. So

828
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: I really do hope that we can kind of lift

829
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 3: you up and give you those better memories and good feelings,

830
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: because I mean, I've got a plenty of shitting feelings

831
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: throughout this show, but I also have so many good

832
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 3: that they outweigh those, And so I hope that you

833
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 3: feel bad.

834
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 5: And the most amazing thing when you watch the show.

835
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 5: Or in twenty twenty, I durned Quarantine, I rewatched and

836
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 5: it's so good and I think that it's easy to

837
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 5: forget or just with so many years, but it's like, damn,

838
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 5: this show is so good. Okay, I really do want

839
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 5: to pride myself. I'm being a positive person. I feel

840
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 5: like I'm not being as positive, but I'm just I

841
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 5: guess it's therapeutic that I'm.

842
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: Starting to get it out.

843
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 3: No, definitely, things we feel your appreciation truly, like don't

844
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: I don't feel like you're complaining.

845
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 4: You're on here complaining. I do feel your appreciation for everything.

846
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 5: One of the big men, the biggest, I guess, or

847
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 5: sadness is or the final sadness. I know in the

848
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 5: second to last episode it was called two thousand and nine,

849
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 5: and they went back to like the first season and

850
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 5: everyone was back and I wasn't and it's so and so,

851
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 5: and that left me with sad feelings because I think, okay,

852
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 5: I understand maybe you know the character was creepy or

853
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 5: with it ever, but that it felt like.

854
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: Everyone was back, and yeah, of course that's how do

855
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: you not take that personally?

856
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 5: That's it, right, And I don't know why, and it's

857
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 5: but overall it's an amazing, amazing experience. But it's all

858
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 5: just like anyone, like a human, your emotions they're off,

859
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 5: they're down, and you know, back and forth, but overall,

860
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 5: I'm a happy person. I love I love being on

861
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 5: the show, and I wish we got to do more

862
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 5: together on it, and.

863
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 3: Same, I know, I know, Well, it's fun to rewatch

864
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: and to really appreciate as a viewer versus like a

865
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 3: cast member, and being able to appreciate the performances that

866
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 3: everybody that we weren't didn't get to see as much

867
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 3: an experience on set.

868
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 4: And and you're one of those.

869
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 3: It's like really to to watch the satire and and

870
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 3: and acknowledge it as the satire that it is and

871
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: and watch you like in your element.

872
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 4: It's really great. And so's just really.

873
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: Grappy have you to have to watch, you know, an

874
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: actor be put in positions like having to be naked

875
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 2: across from Jane Lynch is not an easy thing to

876
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: do in regardless of what the assholes online say to you.

877
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: I know you and did an incredible job and so

878
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: that's all that's all you can control. That's all you

879
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: can do is do the best at your job. And

880
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 2: you were. You did that over again.

881
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 5: Tell something to I want to get something else out

882
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 5: there that the butt sweat on the that was not

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00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 5: my butt sweat great because yeah, I got so criticized

884
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 5: for how gross my butt sweat is.

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Speaker 1: Not Ja that is, there was no it was special effects.

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00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: People need to know, none of us are our characters.

887
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: We look like our characters, but none of us are

888
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: these actual characters. We are hired to play actors. There

889
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: are props, there are teams who take care of these

890
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: whole things like fake butt sweat, So leave him alone.

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Speaker 3: Josh. We're just thank you for coming on, thank you

892
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 3: for being so honest with us, thank you for sharing

893
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 3: your experience, and also thank you for being.

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Speaker 4: A part of the show. And we're just you know,

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Speaker 4: I hope.

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00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,959
Speaker 3: I run into you again at our favorite place.

897
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 4: But it was really love please, amazing, really good.

898
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: I'm really no, I just it's really great to talk

899
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: to you. I'm really happy to have you, so thank you.

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00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 2: And being in Liverpool with you last year was a

901
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 2: really great and special experience. And if any of those

902
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 2: people are listening, you are the nicest bunch of people

903
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: we could have ever spent time with that weekend and

904
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: it was great and it was great to spend some

905
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: time with you as well, Josh.

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00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 5: I loved it was really the highlight of my twenty

907
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 5: twenty two.

908
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: For real, it was great. I had never been to

909
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: Liverpool and just like the nicest, nicest people and all

910
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 2: this Glee folks got to hang out for a couple

911
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: of days. It was great. I'm jealous you were having

912
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: a baby. It's fine, you're doing bigger and better.

913
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 3: Very pregnant, and there was no world in which I

914
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: was making it even though for an hour.

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00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 4: Well we're we're so happy to have you. And look

916
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: there's a ladybug. It's good luck and it's so cute. Anyway, John,

917
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 4: thank you so.

918
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Speaker 2: Much, Thank you, Josh. It's so good to see you.

919
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: Thank you. Great to see you, guys. This is really nice.

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00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 4: Wow.

921
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: I hope that you guys appreciated his homisty as much

922
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: as we did. Yes, because it makes me it's almost

923
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 3: sad to think that he felt like he was on

924
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: the outside, but also grateful that he had was he

925
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: was able to share his piece and his you know,

926
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Speaker 3: his experience, and you know, like all of us have

927
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 3: kind of had like the peaks and valleys of emotions

928
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Speaker 3: over the course.

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Speaker 2: Simply and you know, when you get on a show

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00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: that will be watched by people, it is a double

931
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: edged sword. It's great to be a part of something

932
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 2: that is being enjoyed by millions of people around the world,

933
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Speaker 2: But at the same time, you are going to run

934
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: in to a small portion of people who are terrible

935
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: and say crazy, crazy things to you online, and that's

936
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Speaker 2: just never okay. And Josh is like one of the sweetest,

937
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: sweetest people and talented people, and you know, just remember

938
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: that the people you're watching on screen are real humans

939
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: with real feelings, and just because they're playing a character

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00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 2: that you may not like doesn't mean that it cannot

941
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: feel personal when you attack him. So remember that. Thank

942
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: you Josh so much for coming on and being so honest,

943
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 2: and big love to him because he's just a gem.

944
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Speaker 4: That's what you really missed.

945
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Speaker 2: See you next time. Thanks for listening, and follow us

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Speaker 2: on Instagram at and that's what you really miss pod.

947
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: Make sure to write us a review and leave us

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Speaker 2: five stars. See you next time.