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Speaker 1: wap you up. I know you're a little you beat

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Speaker 2: I'm getting old, so I got a little little hand

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Speaker 2: issue going over. It'll be taking care of. Next time

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Speaker 2: I see you, I'll be fully ready to go. How's life?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? I mean, this is the first time

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Speaker 2: You know what, Matt Man, It's it's been a minute.

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Speaker 2: This is the first so it's amazing. But this is

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Speaker 2: back to college, this is the first football season I

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Speaker 1: Right, whether working or talking, talking anything.

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Speaker 2: So it's been a long it's been a long time,

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Speaker 2: but it was refreshing to be able to take off.

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Speaker 2: I guess you could call it them. Six months with

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Speaker 2: Fox FS one made the decision to counsel all the

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Speaker 3: There was opportunities out there.

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Speaker 2: People wanted me to dive right in immediately, but I'm like, good,

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Speaker 2: So I'm not really like, what's in a rush to

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Speaker 2: I've been doing this media thing for a long time, man,

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Speaker 3: Cause I don't come.

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Speaker 2: With no for gazy bullshit like a lot of these

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Speaker 2: other dudes that be out there talking. Mind, be real,

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Speaker 2: to the point, true assessment, whether it's on the hardwood

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Speaker 2: a baseball diamond. This is what I truly see. I

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Speaker 2: what are we gonna do right now? So my thing was,

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Speaker 2: getting a strategic partner a life partner for a long time.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be doing the whole every two

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Speaker 2: doing that no more, you know, I'm not. I'm just

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Speaker 2: not gonna do it no more. Never mind, Because if

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Speaker 2: because it ain't just about Some people just be thinking

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Speaker 3: That's the way.

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Speaker 2: That's how man, that's how I look at it.

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Speaker 1: What do you mind? What kind of happened over at Fox, Man?

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Speaker 1: You know what, to be honest with your dog, they

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Speaker 2: But I think, you know, a lot of people think

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Speaker 2: You heard what happened? Said? Oh, what happened? Man? Said? Man.

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Speaker 2: Not going to the game, and I haven't been to

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Speaker 2: Myself played basketball. So I'm I'm one week over in

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, everywhere aau stuff crazy. I'm in it mix.

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Speaker 1: have you heard about that? I know you're not a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess what they're trying to say, the electrical

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Speaker 1: You don't believe it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a conspiracy dude, though, What about the other

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Speaker 1: But I will say, being a Niner fan, we have

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Speaker 2: Then, sometimes dudes working too hard or don't work you enough.

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Speaker 2: See they look good, and these coaches get to hire

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Speaker 3: As a professional athlete.

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Speaker 2: They don't pump faked on the coaches, see because the

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Speaker 3: I don't give it.

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Speaker 2: Damn what nobody say these coaches don't know nothing about

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Speaker 2: Then that could and that could be the case, But

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Speaker 2: Some of them dudes though, they just but I don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got coaches and we used every last one too.

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Speaker 1: So so you grabbed your stuff. Excuse me, I'm a

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Speaker 1: What's that? So you get there Monday or Tuesday?

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Speaker 1: So what's to walk us through what that week is like?

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Speaker 1: Now was that because you were vet you knew? Was

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Speaker 2: I just like my mind was focused with like, you know,

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Speaker 2: That's easy work all that type of stuff. Getting there

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Speaker 1: How was that situation? How was Grooden? That was your

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Speaker 2: For me, I just tried to play, Matt, right, I

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Speaker 2: I ain't got time for all that. I'm grown, I've

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Speaker 2: You know, some people didn't know what it was, so

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Speaker 2: I'm just here to play ball. But I know who

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: You ain't gonna get me like you get everybody else.

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Speaker 2: They can't take away Super Bowl. You know, you gotta

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Speaker 3: You just gotta live with it.

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Speaker 2: Live with it, think about it. You with it.

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Speaker 1: You can do about it. You can do about it.

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship has some wide receivers showing out Pookah JSN

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Speaker 1: to really be special?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean you mentioned basically the top guys, right.

439
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I always throw T Higgins in there

440
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,880
Speaker 2: because I like T Higgins. Uh, he don't get enough

441
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 2: of the notoriety that he deserves because he's obviously the

442
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 2: opposite the Chase, and so every all the focuses on

443
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase. When you go in the second round and

444
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 2: another dude go in the top five, yeah, you know

445
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,879
Speaker 2: they gonna get all the recognition.

446
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 3: But you named him, I mean, I don't you know,

447
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 3: we'll he would.

448
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:08,639
Speaker 2: The kid at Tampa, Rebecca he said, his name Mecca

449
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,879
Speaker 2: and Becca, whatever you call it. The receiver in Tampa,

450
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 2: Mecca Buka. He got an opportunity to chance. I'm trying

451
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 2: to think who else that's young. If Chris Olive could

452
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 2: ever get healthy and stay healthy, he got a chance.

453
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 2: You know, it's probably like three maybe three guys that's young.

454
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,879
Speaker 2: They got a chance to get into that area. But

455
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:28,640
Speaker 2: you name the.

456
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 3: Guys, that's pretty much the guys, the core guys.

457
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,479
Speaker 1: Brady said of JSN, he's like a nice skater. His

458
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 1: shoulders never dip hard for any dB to really get

459
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 1: a read on him. He said, that's one of his

460
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 1: best attributes. What do you think about that assessment of him.

461
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 2: He's like an ice skater.

462
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, just the way he moves his shoulders never gets

463
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,160
Speaker 1: hard to get a read on him.

464
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 2: He's ridiculous. And here's how I assess wide receivers. Different

465
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 2: than many other people, right, Matt, because the first thing

466
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: you see is w R. So the first thing you said, oh,

467
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 2: he's a receiver. It's like basketball U SEPG. The first

468
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 2: thing you think is he's a point guard, when he

469
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 2: might not really be a point that may just be

470
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 2: the label. So with JSN, he can play all the spots.

471
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 2: Everybody can't play.

472
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 1: All the spots. You know.

473
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 2: You say, well what about a guy that's inside, Well

474
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 2: that's probably where he's gonna stay because he can't play outside.

475
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 3: With the big boys, JSN and pooking.

476
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 2: Them can go inside, outside, play on the perimeter, block

477
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 2: all of those sort of things. That is important to me.

478
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 2: So Tom Brady's assessment as a route runner. He's wicked

479
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,239
Speaker 2: as a route runner, there's no question about it. But

480
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 2: he does it inside, outside, all the way around. That

481
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 2: to me is big time. He ran a route yesterday

482
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 2: in the NFC Championship game. He ran a pump seven,

483
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 2: which is a corner back to the post. And that

484
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: was like one of my favorite things because when I

485
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 2: get inside in the slot where he was at, most

486
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 2: people thought I was running the corner route. They just

487
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 2: they just assumed because I ran I ran the seventh

488
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 2: round a lot. And when you put that when you

489
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: turn that head and you you look to your left

490
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 2: and you and that DV is going there, you put

491
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: that foot in the ground and come back across like

492
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 2: he did yesterday.

493
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 3: And man, that thing was a thing.

494
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 2: I was I was talking on the phone from you know,

495
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 2: he was all in group group conversation watching the game,

496
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 2: and I'm like, Man, that ship right there, that's the thing.

497
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 2: That's how you draw it up. I mean, he could

498
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 2: have he if Sam would have led him a little

499
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 2: further up the field into the right, he'd have walked in,

500
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 2: you know, but he kind of kind of he kind

501
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: of threw it more toward the more toward his left

502
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 2: side than pulling him all away to the right. But

503
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 2: it was beautiful, No, it was beautiful. It was a

504
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 2: big of beauty. It was the way they drew it up.

505
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 2: It worked perfectly.

506
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: What is your thoughts on Brady in the booth man?

507
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 2: You know, Tom is learning. Tom is learning. Let's just

508
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 2: Tom is learning. He's got you know, he's his second

509
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 2: year on the job. Could he get better? Yeah?

510
00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 3: Will he get better?

511
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: Most likely? Uh, But what happens a lot of times

512
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 2: is you know in in in a game or sport,

513
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: or even in the workforce. Your initial reaction to somebody

514
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 2: is what you think about them. So early on in

515
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 2: his career he started off, it was really rocky. So

516
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: people in their mind ain't gonna never really give him

517
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt, right, They're gonna hold onto

518
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: every little word that may not make sense. Oh, I

519
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 2: don't understand why Brady even said that. You know, you

520
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 2: you gotta let him grow in the position. You know

521
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 2: he's learning. Now. If you ask me this three years

522
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 2: from now and he's still saying the same way and

523
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 2: he's got off, they gotta take him off the air.

524
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: No, it's true.

525
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's true. If he's just

526
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: two years from now, you cannot continue to force me

527
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: him up on me because at that point, you know

528
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, I'm gonna be like, man, Brady ain't

529
00:23:54,359 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 2: no good, but he's but he's learning. Think about what

530
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: is fucking John Madden sound like when he first got.

531
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 3: I don't we wasn't around.

532
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to give some time. Did you have

533
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: you ever called the game from the book?

534
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 2: Man? I did not.

535
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 3: I did a couple uh.

536
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 2: Like a like a couple of serious is of the

537
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: USCPN State Game, Kirk hurrs Street and Brent Musburger. But

538
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: it was moving fast. It was it was you know,

539
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 2: could I do it? Yeah? But I would be scared

540
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 2: that I would get up there and say some ship

541
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: that I have. Everybody on social media go crazy because

542
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: I you know, as a as a competitor, you know,

543
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 2: I might you know, just and I'm on national TV

544
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: in front of millions of people. Different than when I'm

545
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: hosting shows. Hosting show is different than when I'm calling

546
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 2: the game because when I'm calling the game and I'm

547
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: assessing something, I'm looking at it and it's hard for

548
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: me to sit down. I'm like a nervous nelly. Even

549
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: though I don't play no more, I'm I'm a stress case. Uh.

550
00:24:59,520 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: You know.

551
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 2: I go the games because I'm obviously I'm a Laker fan,

552
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: Dodger fan, you know, all of those sort of things.

553
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: And I dive deep into the game that I'm at.

554
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: So if I go to a game like let's say,

555
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: for instance, I go.

556
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: To the the to the.

557
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: New England Patriots game. I never played for New England

558
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: or anything, but my relationship with Mr Kraft is such

559
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 2: that I'm gonna be in his box and I'm gonna

560
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 2: be pulling for them.

561
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.

562
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 2: And so now I'm like, what the you know, I'm like,

563
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 2: So I couldn't even do that if I was on

564
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 2: the air, because if I'm on the air, I'm gonna

565
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 2: be too real.

566
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,479
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not gonna be up there. And I

567
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 3: know I can see.

568
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: I know I could do it if I wanted to,

569
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 2: because when I'm watching the game, I'm gonna tell you

570
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen before it even happened, because I know

571
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: what I'm looking at.

572
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: The Raiders got a big decision with the number one pick.

573
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it? In your opinion?

574
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: Is it?

575
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: Is it Mendoza? Is it? Is it someone else?

576
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: Okay, So now I got to put my GM hat on.

577
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: So if I'm needing a quarterback, I'm certainly looking at him. Okay, Right,

578
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: I need a face, I need an identity. But I

579
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 2: also got to break down the film and most people

580
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: think that he's the number one overall pick. But here's

581
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: what I would say to you about that. You gotta

582
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: follow me here. When the season takes place in September

583
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: to the end of the season, nobody's evaluating that quarterback

584
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: except his coaches in the scouts. The general manager peaks

585
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: and take a look On a Saturday riding the bus

586
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: to the game, he might look at him, he might

587
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: sit down. As the season gets to the back end,

588
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 2: he may start doing his research. Right, But there's a

589
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 2: long period of time from September to the end of

590
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: the season. The quarterback coach is fucking trying to keep

591
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: a job with the NFL team. The head coach of

592
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: that NFL team is trying to keep a job, right.

593
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: The offensive coordinators trying to keep a job. They're decision makers.

594
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 2: They're extremely important in the decision to draft somebody. Yeah,

595
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: the general manager's important and president is important, but the

596
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: coaches got to coach him up. The coach has got

597
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 2: to look at me and go I could work with him.

598
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: So they really haven't had a chance to lay their

599
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: eyes on him quite yet because they're in the course

600
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 2: of the season. Once the season is over and them

601
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 2: dudes is out of the playoffs and going on about

602
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: their business, now they finally get a chance to lay

603
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: eyes on him. But they also get a chance to

604
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: lay eyes on everybody else that may not be a

605
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 2: quarterback that they look at and go, not really like

606
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: that defensive end, I'm mother fucking six y five two

607
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 2: seventy five, you run a full three.

608
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: I really like him. And people really have.

609
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: A hard time of really understanding that because they've already

610
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: been poisoning in the mind to believe that he's gonna

611
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 2: be the number one pick because of his success that

612
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: he had and winning the national title. But the Raiders

613
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: got to hire somebody, and who they hire, it's gonna

614
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: look at it and go, man, I really might like

615
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,239
Speaker 2: Malik Willis a little bit better for us, and we

616
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: don't have to this, this, and this, So we could

617
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 2: take that number one overall pick and we can move

618
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: it and we can go spend two year sixty billion

619
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 2: on Elik Willis rather than on Mendoza. Well, you're gonna

620
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: miss on a franchise player. Well do we know he's

621
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: a franchise player because we thought Ryan Leaf was a

622
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: franchise player, and we thought we thought Zach Wilson was

623
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: a franchise player. So you gotta be you gotta guard

624
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: it with caution in jumping out just because what you heard,

625
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: but you heard, you gotta break it all the way down.

626
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: I feel like in basketball, and obviously you're a number

627
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: one pick, you can speak to this where you go

628
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: to the franchise, starting at the top has a lot

629
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: to do with how your career turned out, unless you're

630
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: just a cold motherfucker. But particularly quarterbacks to go into

631
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: systems were currently it's no coach, they had a rough

632
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: they have no O line, Like, what are your thoughts

633
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: to that? For number one picks that are going into

634
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: because normally the number one pick means you're going to

635
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: a bad team.

636
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: You are going to a bad team, and everybody thinks

637
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: that Tom Brady's gonna solve their problem.

638
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: No, tom Brady at the quarterback.

639
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: And he can make a bad decision helping select the quarterback.

640
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: So when you know that you have an opportunity to

641
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: maybe resurrect a franchise and go in there like a Mendoza,

642
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: to try to do some things, and you feel that

643
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: you could be the number one pick, you probably should,

644
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: you know, focus in on that. But the coach that's

645
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 2: getting hired has got to sign off on you regardless

646
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: he just because his ask gonna be on the line

647
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: if he picks the wrong guy. Now, Mandoza might be

648
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: the right guy. Man, he might be the right guy.

649
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: But then what if the kid out of old Miss

650
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: Chambers decides that he wants to come out not go back.

651
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: His measurables is pretty good.

652
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: He's a six six one and a half six two dude,

653
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: you know, over two hundred pounds. He can spin it,

654
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: he can run it, he can spit it out. But

655
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: a coach might come and say, I like him better.

656
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: Now you got those issues. I see it every year,

657
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: matt Man. Dudes think people are gonna go high, and

658
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you look up and you go,

659
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: whoa man, They.

660
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: Didn't take you.

661
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: They took this dude instead. The biggest mistakes in the NFL,

662
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: in my opinion, this quarterback. It makes some of the

663
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: biggest mistakes, good or bad. They just do they they

664
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: look up and they give up on them. Really, we

665
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: just watched the dude go to the super Bowl last night.

666
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: It's Sam Donald. I told the New York Jets. I

667
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: told them literally, trade to pick don Zach, don't don't

668
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: draft Zach Wilson. Bring in a new fucking coach that

669
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: know what he's doing, and not Adam Gaze. Keep Sam Donald. Okay,

670
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: I understand it. It hadn't been in the last three years.

671
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: You got a financial decision that you need to make.

672
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: Believe him, get rid of those picks, get some players,

673
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: put him around them, get him a JSSN. You know

674
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: he was out there working with me and you at

675
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: forty something.

676
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: To fifty years old. Man, think about that.

677
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: And they gave up on him, and he goes to Carolina,

678
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: has a little bit of a couple of game success,

679
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: but people got hurt, and then all of a sudden

680
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: it didn't go well. He goes he comes out to

681
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: San Francisco. He sits tight for a minute, but he

682
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: finally gets his shit together when he goes to Minnesota

683
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: because they had pieces in play. What if he'd had

684
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: Jefferson and Addison and all them in New York, we

685
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: wouldn't even talking about him. Say I'm doing a little

686
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: Seattle but exactly, but that didn't work out that way.

687
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: He goes to Seattle. He got ballers right, whether it's

688
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: it's Charmonnade, whether it's it's JC. And he got players

689
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: that he get the football too, and he going to

690
00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: super Bowl.

691
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: Now I'm for going to the super Bowl.

692
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: I think you bring up an interesting point about development

693
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: because when you came in the game, and I know

694
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: on the basketball side, top picks used to have time

695
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: to develop, and now there's I think there's just so

696
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: much money involved that you get thrown in the fire

697
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: right away. What is your thoughts on that.

698
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: Well, we always I got thrown the fire right away.

699
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: Most of the guys that was drafted high with me,

700
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: all of us got thrown in the fire right away.

701
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: If you have the right circumstances and the surroundings, you

702
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: going to succeed.

703
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 3: That's what it's about.

704
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: It's about the sun, the circumstances, and the surroundings. If

705
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: your circumstance and your surroundings.

706
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: Are right, you're going to an organization.

707
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: It could be the organization, it could be the coach,

708
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: it could be the situation. Do we have veterans in

709
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: the locker room? Is it a bunch of just twenty

710
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: two year olds. It's trying to get to Miami Beach

711
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: tomorrow night? Like what do we have in our locker room?

712
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: And that's an important thing, and I think many people

713
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: forget about that, right They just think because you're a

714
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: high picked that they're going to throw you on the

715
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: field and it's going to.

716
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 3: Be successful work.

717
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: But if you number one picking, you go into a

718
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: ship organization, it don't matter, and you might get out

719
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: and you might be good. But somebody what you're gonna

720
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: be afterthought? You know, God God blessed me because I

721
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: was able to get Bill Parcels on my second year.

722
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: My first year, I mean I still called I don't

723
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: know what it was out of seventy brocks whatever, eight

724
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: nine touchdowns. I mean, I still did what I needed

725
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: to do as a rookie. But when I got Bill Parcells,

726
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: he saved me. He saved me working at ups. Shit.

727
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: But what does that mean? And how instrumental was that

728
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: for it? Because he's one of the greatest coaches of

729
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: all time. But what he for a casual fan? What

730
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: does that mean? And what did he instilling you?

731
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: The Well, one of the first things he told me

732
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: thought matter. He said, I want you to be a

733
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: giraffe and not a gazelle. Don't try to be something

734
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: you not. Okay, So what that told me is he

735
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: understood exactly what type of player I could be. Right,

736
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: they had me doing shit that the little dudes do. Yeah,

737
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: you know, I'm supposed to be doing some other stuff.

738
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: They got me. You know, I'm I'm I'm a dude

739
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: that really got knocked down threes from every corner, but

740
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 2: you got me down on the block. You know, I'm

741
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: just saying I CA three, But you know what I'm saying,

742
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: it's just you got me doing something different. But when

743
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: he got there, he recognized and he realized. He goes,

744
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: you know, I need you to be the same guy

745
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: that you were in USC. I don't need to be

746
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: I don't need you to be that guy that I

747
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: just played against in New England, even though I torched him.

748
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: You know, I get what he's saying.

749
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 2: And so that saved everything for me because it was

750
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 2: the right situation.

751
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.

752
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: Originally, the circumstances wasn't great because I had Richie Kole

753
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: type were one of fifteen as a rookie. And then

754
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: I get the big tuna, Big Tuna come in. You

755
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Big Tuna come in.

756
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 3: It's a different you could just tell us different.

757
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: Motherfucker got the air conditioned on and the whole building

758
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: freezing coats so nobody fall asleep. He took all the

759
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: computers out so people wasn't on the computers, you know.

760
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: It was just a different way of men. The dude

761
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: fired the security guard at the front desk at the

762
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: front gate that had been there with the Jets since

763
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 2: like the sixties. Let me get this dude out of here.

764
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: It put in the keypad because he felt like this

765
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: is unnecessary. I don't want this hanging around here. So

766
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: we got rid of dude, got rid of Harry.

767
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: That was the dude.

768
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: Nay har. Harry used to just sit there at the

769
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: gate in the car and let everybody hit it out.

770
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: Judes.

771
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: We have a girls and shitty market lot, but yeah,

772
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: but different organization with it.

773
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Super Bowl prediction. Seahawks are favored, very underrated team

774
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: this year that had one of the best regular seasons ever.

775
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: Darnald versus May What are some positives you see with both?

776
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: And then some negatives you see with both?

777
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 2: Well, I think both of them could get a ball

778
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: to the other team at times, right, Sam has Sam

779
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 2: did a good job of protecting the football. But what again,

780
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: what happens is when you are Sam, for instance, and

781
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: I got seven interceptions in three games, people act like

782
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: I'm a turnover machine. That's not really it's just three

783
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: games out of seventeen. It's fourteen more games. So most

784
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: of the focus is gonna be on his turnovers, right,

785
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: because he had a three game probably a three game

786
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: stretch where he just gave the ball away and people like, ah,

787
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: look at you, the same guy, like come on, man, stop.

788
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: Then you look at Drake May who's young, but he's

789
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: in the right situation in the right surroundings because of

790
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: Rabel and because of Josh mcdames, so they know what

791
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: to do with him to keep him out of horns away.

792
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: The difference is they gotta go up against Seattle's defense

793
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: in that front. In that front, they don't come and

794
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 2: pin their ears back and come and get you. Will

795
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 2: he be able to, you know, flourishing that we couldn't

796
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: really tell in the last two games.

797
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: And here's why you couldn't tell.

798
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: If you meet, you couldn't tell because number one Houston

799
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: has a really good defense.

800
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 3: But they played the Pittsburgh.

801
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: Steelers and Aaron Rodgers who's like a thousand years old,

802
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,959
Speaker 2: so they can pin their years back and do whatever

803
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: they want to do. Then they played against a Denver

804
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: team and the snow that you know Denver team was

805
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 2: snowing off, so you really couldn't get a real true

806
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: assessment of what their offense would be like against a

807
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: Denver team on a neutral field, solid ground without all

808
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 2: the snow. So when I look at that, I say, okay,

809
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: so now we're on a neutral field. We get Seattle.

810
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: Seattle's defense is coming to play. You know what they have.

811
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: You got Stepan Diggs, you have Hollins, but you don't

812
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: have you know, Stefan's still good, but he ain't step

813
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 2: Fan a four years ago. Right That defense is gonna

814
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: try to take him away. Now you got to figure

815
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: out what to do with everybody else. Now they got

816
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: two weeks to figure all that out. And I think

817
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: their experience on the offensive side as a coordinator Josh

818
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: McDaniels probably will benefit him.

819
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: But I don't think they've beaten Seattle.

820
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: No, I'm taking Seattle, and I'll take Seattle on the

821
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: four and a half right now.

822
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: Too many unanswered questions for you, sounds like for that team.

823
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: No, it's just Seattle.

824
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: Good.

825
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

826
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: I picked Seattle to go to Super Bowl six weeks ago,

827
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: maybe seven weeks ago, and I should have put my

828
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: money into my man. My man kept saying that the

829
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: odds was my favorite. I just you know, I just

830
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: was scared to do it.

831
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: At the beginning of the season, they were picked to

832
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: both win eight and a half games. Yeah, Brandon Nyuk.

833
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: Take a listen to this clip from Lynch and Shanahan blockhead.

834
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 4: I had a follow up on Brandon just it's a

835
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 4: guy that you guys made a big investment into. And

836
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 4: I know, Kyle you said that after his injury it

837
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 4: was tough to get him in here and get involved,

838
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 4: but it's kind of an unprecedented move for him to

839
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 4: four or fifth that kind of money. Have you been

840
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 4: able to determine why he was so upset, why he

841
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 4: wasn't showing up in just any background you can give

842
00:38:59,280 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 4: on that.

843
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,479
Speaker 1: I wish I knew.

844
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: I can't help you there, Sorry, Yeah, is there a

845
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: line of communication with him? There was that anymore? That snap?

846
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 5: Well, when I'm coaching, I don't I don't hang out

847
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 5: in the training room at all, so I don't see

848
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 5: guys much that way. But I'd say it officially stopped

849
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 5: for me when last time I tried to get a

850
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 5: hold of him and cut it, and then tried a

851
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 5: couple more times and still cudn't, and then that matched

852
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 5: to everyone else that was trying to get a hold

853
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 5: of him and cut it. And eventually there's not much

854
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 5: of an explanation because it's really hard for us and

855
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 5: anyone else to understand and why. It's something I've never

856
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 5: seen in twenty two years of coaching, So just it's unfortunate,

857
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 5: and that's it's confusing because it's confusing for all of us.

858
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 5: So but it eventually becomes it is what it is,

859
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 5: and you try as hard as you can to fix

860
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 5: something that you don't understand, but it's not like we

861
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 5: understand it very well still, but eventually understand that it's

862
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 5: not going to change, and you got to move on

863
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 5: with your football team, which is always the most important thing.

864
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 1: So he gets a four year with it. One twenty

865
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: injured early in the season, and it's just kind of

866
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: been in a sense as a formercy what should take

867
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: on that man?

868
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 2: You know, Matt they took his money from him though,

869
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: oh did they? Yeah, he something happened and they avoided

870
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: out his rest of his guaranteed money. So it was

871
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: like thirty close to thirty million dollars guaranteed money. So

872
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 2: I don't know all the ins and outs about everything,

873
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: but you would have to think if you take it

874
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars from me, fuck you, period period. I'm

875
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: not going to answer your phone call, nor am I

876
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: going to speak to you. They. I'm sure that the

877
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 2: NFLPA will try to come to some sort of resolution

878
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: with them on a grievance or something to get it

879
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: taken care of.

880
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they avoided twenty seven million dollars of it guaranteed.

881
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: This past summer. Yep, So we didn't report to rehab

882
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: last year and then this summer they avoided twenty seven

883
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: million in guaranteed money.

884
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: That's definitely a fuck you. I might throw eggs at

885
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: your car too.

886
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're taking twenty seven million dollars on my money though.

887
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: So okay, let's play the blame game, right, Well, whose

888
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: fault is it? Right?

889
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 3: That's the that's the whole thing. It's the blame game.

890
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: Now.

891
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 2: So, as a professional athlete, when an organization stands up

892
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: there at the press conference and puts everything on you,

893
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: you become the bad guy. But the devils are in

894
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: the details. What are the details? We don't know what

895
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: the details are. So only thing we know is what

896
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: he ain't saying, he ain't speaking, he ain't said nothing yet.

897
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: So it's just funny, man, when you when you look

898
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: at the situation, because I know how these coaches be.

899
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: Man, these coaches are dirty. Man, They're dirty.

900
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: They scaleless. They like coyotes. You know, coyotes is some

901
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: scalless animals. They gonna steal your dogs, your chickens. They

902
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: gonna do everything they can, you know. And that's how

903
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: coaches can be. They can be scanless. And so they

904
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: got everybody out there thinking something really wrong with this dude.

905
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: And it may just be I'm not fucking with you,

906
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying, and I don't want to

907
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: be around you. So therefore the best way for me

908
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: to get away from this situation is not deal with you.

909
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: But they took the onus up on themselves based on

910
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: the rules. I'm sure to go ahead and boid out

911
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: his money, you know what I'm saying. And now his

912
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: agent and everybody got to try to uncover it and

913
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: figure it out.

914
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: But it's just it's just funny, man.

915
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: Is he still in the contract?

916
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 3: No?

917
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: No, he probably still is under contract, but they're gonna

918
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: either cut him or trade him in that contract on

919
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: the guaranteed money side is no Moss. So whatever he

920
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: got initially is his. But that other twenty eight, twenty seven,

921
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: he won't even see that.

922
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: He coming off a fresh knee injury, looking for a deal.

923
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 2: A home. It's somebody, look, somebody, he can play football.

924
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna take you.

925
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 4: He's under contract through twenty twenty eight, and then this

926
00:42:59,280 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 4: past summer.

927
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 3: To your point, they.

928
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 4: Avoided all of the remaining guaranteed money, so he has

929
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 4: to play and hid incentives.

930
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: I as seem to make any money now, No, but

931
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 2: I'm not. But I'm not going to you unless I

932
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: get my money back. At the end of the day, You're.

933
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: Not gonna give me a pay for play contract.

934
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen. So if you're trading for me, Matt,

935
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: we need to figure out how to make up this

936
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 2: twenty seven million. I need a new deal. It's just

937
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: the reality.

938
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: Does he have the deleverage, deleverage the credentials to go

939
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: in and say something like that to a new team,

940
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: to a new.

941
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: Team everybody, every everybody has the credentials as long as

942
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: you want me, true, So if you want me, you

943
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: see what I'm saying, now, all of a suddenly, think

944
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: if the Buffalo Bills, for instance, that probably needs another receiver,

945
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: and Brandon being a general manager, Buffalo wants to make

946
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: a trade for Brandon Ayuk, and let's say they give

947
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: up a fourth round pick. Brandon Ayuk and his agent

948
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 2: can say say, man, I need to get my money back,

949
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 2: and they can figure out how to get him back

950
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: to that twenty seven million to guarantee you money. They

951
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: can figure it out. It's not that difficult, Schador. Can

952
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: you grade this season?

953
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a little bit of seven stars,

954
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: three and four, thirteen hundred yards, seven touches, ten picks.

955
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: Browns were two and eight without him and Judy as

956
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: his receiver. One what did you make of his season?

957
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: How it started, how he took the high road, how

958
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: he played, and what is he looking at coming in

959
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: the next season.

960
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: Man, I really didn't have a problem when he finally

961
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: took over what he looked like, because I expected for

962
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: him to look like that young Yeah, I don't expect

963
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: for him. I wasn't expected for him to be looking

964
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: like Drake May because he didn't have a Drake May situation, right,

965
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: a young quarterback he didn't have that. He talked about it,

966
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: and so I expect for him to turn the ball over.

967
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 2: I expect for him to fumble in the snow through

968
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 2: a pit.

969
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 3: Expect that.

970
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 2: What the hell you want him to do? You rushed

971
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: him into the lineup and you're trying to figure out

972
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: what he is and you're trying to coach you, but

973
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: he's trying to understand what the NFL is all about. Again,

974
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: talk to me in two years. If you talk to

975
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: me in two years and say, look what you think

976
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: about you doing right now, I can really truly give

977
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: you a real evaluation. The evaluation I'm giving you right

978
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: now is based on a three and four record as

979
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: a rookie. That was the third quarterback that was forced

980
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: into the lineup, and so he did what he could

981
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 2: do in a short period of time.

982
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: Did he show you any flashes of hope?

983
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

984
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

985
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: Gotta get rid of football, though, I'm a fucker hold

986
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: on to the ball too long? God, No, I told Prime,

987
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: I ain't got no problem. I told I told his daddy.

988
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 2: I said, man, he gotta get rid of the ball.

989
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: You know, he gotta eat. But he's not.

990
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 3: Used to the NFL yet the speed of the game.

991
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: Right, So you know you say, well, that's been him

992
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: the whole way. Yeah, you could do that in college

993
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: because you got a seventeen year old kid out there

994
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 2: that just got off the prom playing against you. Now

995
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: you got some grown ass men with full beards with

996
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: car seats to the back that need to get a check.

997
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be different. But I think he I

998
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: think whoever comes in and Cleveland has to give him

999
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: a real opportunity and fair chance to be the starting quarterback,

1000
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: a real one, not playing games, but a real one

1001
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: because he deserves.

1002
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: Speaking of playing games, there was a lot of games,

1003
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: and and and to our previous conversations, some of these

1004
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: coaches are coyotes.

1005
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 3: Let me start using my ship.

1006
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Next season, Deshan Watson will be

1007
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: fully healthy. I mean they've invested money. And what is

1008
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that situation with him?

1009
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 3: We got to see what he is, you know.

1010
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: So in your mind to those two compete for the

1011
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: starting job next.

1012
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: Year, I would think if Dashaun is healthy, I would

1013
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: think Dashaw would be the better quarterback if he's healthy.

1014
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 2: But what happens to us is we get so uh

1015
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: enamored apphixiated on what happened off the field, So we

1016
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: can't let that go on the field, right, I mean,

1017
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: that's just so we're not giving him an on.

1018
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: Field assessment, We're giving him off the field.

1019
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, Because think about it, if

1020
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: he never ever.

1021
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 3: Had these issues, that he had.

1022
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: The best quarterbacks in the game at one point.

1023
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: One of the better quarterbacks in the game. But hear

1024
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: me out though, So if he never had these issues, right, Matt,

1025
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: and he just was injured for three straight years, we

1026
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't be talking about oh well you know still, no,

1027
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: we would do that. We would say when he gets healthy,

1028
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: you know, he may be a different guy, that he's

1029
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: going to slow down a little bit because he's missed

1030
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: some time. But because we can't erase what happened off

1031
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 2: the field, he ain't gonna necessarily.

1032
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 3: Get the benefit of the doubt.

1033
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: Now, obviously, you and I have never been through what

1034
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: he's gone through the last two or three years off

1035
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: the field, But does that wear on your mental and

1036
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: your your ability on the field in your opinion at all?

1037
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: You know, the only thing that I've ever dealt with

1038
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: that had during the season where I had some stress,

1039
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: was getting divorced.

1040
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: Too, in the middle of the season. That'sul in the

1041
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: middle of seat.

1042
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: But that was on my Super Bowl run, So you know,

1043
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 2: I really you know, I hate to disrespect it, but

1044
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: fuck that bitch man. I wasn't tripping on her. I

1045
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: was gonna go with the Super Bowl regardless, regardless, you

1046
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I wasn't. You wasn't getting it

1047
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: bought when I when I went into the building, it

1048
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: was a different situation. But when I was at home

1049
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there in my my crib on the water,

1050
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there and I'm like, damn, I can't believe

1051
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: I'm getting divorced.

1052
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: Shit.

1053
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: But when I go to the building, I knew I

1054
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: had to separate the two so and I'm sure he

1055
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: could do the same, but it's harder for him, even

1056
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: though it's funny. It's hard and funny about what I

1057
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 2: was about to tell you, but because he's going everywhere

1058
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 2: with signs and stuff, people idiots.

1059
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

1060
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: What happened with me is we played the Philadelphia Eagles

1061
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 2: that year, and so I was getting divorced. In the

1062
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: entire Philly stadium was screaming Keyshine, Where is your wife?

1063
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: All I can do that, all I can do is laugh.

1064
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 2: I couldn't even be back. I was laughing. We were

1065
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: sitting on the bitch laughing our ass off because it

1066
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: was funny, you know. But he's got to deal with

1067
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: something a little bit different.

1068
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. Last time we spoke, Lamar Jackson was in

1069
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: the midst of an MVP run and you were one

1070
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: to say that he should be the face of the league,

1071
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: but the league won't make him the face of the league. Uh,

1072
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: what was your take? What was your take on kind

1073
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: of what's of late? Obviously hardball's out, he's been a

1074
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: little up and down. Uh, what'sh what's your take on

1075
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: on on on where Lamar stands currently.

1076
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: Well, he's had a bumping a roll this year and

1077
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 2: he's got to get it fixed. You just got to

1078
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: get it fixed. That's just the bottom line. Put him

1079
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: on the trading block and see what happens. If you

1080
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: don't like him, put him on the trade block and

1081
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: see what happens. If you got a problem with the

1082
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: way that he's played the last couple of seasons, why

1083
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: don't you just put him on.

1084
00:49:59,440 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 3: The trade block.

1085
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 2: See what happens.

1086
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 3: See who lines up at the door.

1087
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 2: For his services.

1088
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: Probably everybody, but three or four teams.

1089
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: Wasn't he available though, like two years ago a free

1090
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: agency and nobody seemed to Yeah, but that was a

1091
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 2: it was That was a weird That was one of

1092
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: those collusion bullshit.

1093
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 3: It was a weird deal. It wasn't that we don't

1094
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 3: want him as a player.

1095
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: It's more about don't interfere in what we're doing type stuff.

1096
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a little bit different. Don't get involved

1097
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: in our negotiations.

1098
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: Before we get into the coaching hires and vacancies. I

1099
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: really thought this year with Buffalo and Josh Allen that

1100
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: this was his chance to make a run because the AFC,

1101
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: the big Lamar was out, Borrow was out. What is it?

1102
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: Is it? The team? I mean, obviously the blame's gonna

1103
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: fall on him because he's the star quarterback.

1104
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 3: Then he did everything. Yeah, I mean they they had

1105
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: the receivers.

1106
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: Is just guys, right, him and Cook really you know,

1107
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: Dalt schultzon in not Doug shows, but Dalk Kinkaid and

1108
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: those guys showed up to some degree. But if he

1109
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: couldn't get it done this year, and I told I

1110
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 2: told you know, I got friends as Bill fans, and

1111
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 2: I told him, I said, you know, Sean mcnermy gonna

1112
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: get fired if they don't get to the AFC Championship game.

1113
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 3: His ass gonna get fired.

1114
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 2: And he got fired, you know, because you could only

1115
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: waste Josh Allen's career for so long and then you

1116
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 2: have to start to build on and figure it out.

1117
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: So is it putting? Obviously it sounds like more putting

1118
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: pieces around him that he could work with.

1119
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So you go back to his couple first couple

1120
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 2: of years in the league, they didn't have anything. Brandon,

1121
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 2: being the general manager who's now been kicked up the

1122
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 2: president's slash general manager, went out and traded for Stefan Diggs.

1123
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, Josh Allen became Josh Allen. You

1124
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: took Stepan Diggs away from him, and he's just like, Okay,

1125
00:51:54,600 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: he's still really great MVP, but he's send that alpha

1126
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 2: dog at the receiver position. All great quarterbacks got alpha

1127
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 2: dogs and receiver every last one.

1128
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 3: People be like Tom Brady didn't have anything.

1129
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: Oh, he had fucking Julian Edelman in the slot, and

1130
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 2: he had Grinkowski and he had.

1131
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 3: Hernandez, and he had and he had a year.

1132
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 2: He had Randy for a year. And when you look

1133
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 2: at the system, the strength of the New England system

1134
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 2: was the slot receiver. So he had all those dudes.

1135
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: Those dudes were good for that position. You look at

1136
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: any quarterback. Look at Sam Darnold, you got JSN. You

1137
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: see what I'm saying. You look at Matthew Staff. He

1138
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 2: got Pooka and Davante Adams. When you're making a run,

1139
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: you gotta have. It's just like when you was playing basketball,

1140
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: if you had a big that could go, he probably.

1141
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: Was going, probably, yeah, you got shock. You probably got

1142
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: a chi ranked these hires who you liked the most

1143
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: to the least.

1144
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 2: Like well, at least likely for me gott to be

1145
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 2: Robert Sala for the Titans. All right, the best hires

1146
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 2: the Giants and John Harball. The second best hire would

1147
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: be Mike McCarthy to the Steelers. Other than that, I

1148
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: don't really care about the Falcons and the Dolphins and

1149
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: all them. They already had their mind made up. They

1150
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: already had their mind made up on what they wanted

1151
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: to do.

1152
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.

1153
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: The Falcons without hiring Matt Ryan and next thing you know,

1154
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 2: he's blinking highre Kevin Stefanski.

1155
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 3: So that was already in the plans and the works.

1156
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy is a really good coach who deserves the

1157
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 2: opportunity to chance. And he's got to find a quarterback.

1158
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it'll be Aaron Rodgers again

1159
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 2: or not. I don't know the Jeff Hatley due halflee dude,

1160
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: other than he was a d C at at the

1161
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers and apparently he did a good job

1162
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 2: with green Bay's defense. Didn't seem that way to me,

1163
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: but you know what do I know? They hired him?

1164
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: And then Kevin Stefanski is just a reheat Michael. They

1165
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: threw a microwave, pushed one and gonna reheat him up

1166
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: and let him go around a couple of times and

1167
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: get some money.

1168
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: So one is what one minute?

1169
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they gonna hit him in the one minute boom

1170
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: out of here as soon as it don't go right.

1171
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 3: It's a good he's a good offensive mind.

1172
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: Basketball talk pivoting a little bit starting with the Lakers,

1173
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: uh last week, and again, you're not a huge social

1174
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: media guy, but I'm sure you probably heard the Genie

1175
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,479
Speaker 1: Buss Lebron. I read it Rich Paul stuff floating around

1176
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: with Rich on the podcast. What are your thoughts on

1177
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: just the outside noise of the Lakers of Lake.

1178
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: Well, that's always been the case, though right outside noise

1179
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: Lakers whatnot? Is it interesting because I read it, I

1180
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: read it from top to bottom, the story on ESPN.

1181
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 2: I read the whole thing in the middle of the night,

1182
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: like four am in the morning. Interesting because there's there's

1183
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: there's some nuance to it to the degree, you know,

1184
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: with Jeanie and her surrounding friends that you know, the

1185
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 2: rambuses and all those people. You know, it's a little

1186
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 2: of that going on. As far as the Rich Paul

1187
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: and Lebron situation go, I think Rich Paul and Lebron

1188
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 2: know at this point in time it's probably the end

1189
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 2: of the line as a Laker. So they taking the

1190
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: gloves off for the most part, you know, because they

1191
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 2: had they had control for six years maybe six years

1192
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 2: or so.

1193
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:26,959
Speaker 3: That ain't the.

1194
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 2: Case no more. And Genie ain't really even though she's governor,

1195
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 2: she ain't really in control like that no more.

1196
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 3: And the people that's now in.

1197
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: Control ain't partners, aren't partners with Rich and Lebron like that.

1198
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 3: You know. So, yeah, I don't think we win in

1199
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 3: no championship no time soon.

1200
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 2: But we'll see.

1201
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: Obviously, everyone having pods and shows, et cetera. Riches every different.

1202
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: Now when you hear and again, it's a conversation, and

1203
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: I see both sides of it. When you hear someone

1204
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: like a Rich say what he's saying about Austin reason

1205
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: the Lakers should be like you said, they had some

1206
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: control there. But at one point going after and targeting,

1207
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: is it different coming from him or is it just

1208
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: talk like it's talk from every other podcast is out there.

1209
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 3: Okay, so pull me up to speed.

1210
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: So he him and Max Kelluman have their show and

1211
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: they sat down and spoke on if I'm the Lakers,

1212
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm targeting Triple J Jared Jackson from Memphis and I'm

1213
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: giving up possibly Austin Reeves for that. And then people

1214
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 1: went crazy with that one, I think because obviously Rich

1215
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: being an agent, but people also know, like you and

1216
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: I know how much power Rich and how much pool

1217
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: Rich has had in the past in the league, and

1218
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: people kind of had a problem with that by itself,

1219
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 1: him kind of saying what we were thinking out loud.

1220
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 3: No, I don't have a problem with it at all.

1221
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: I mean, if he thinks that that that Jane Jack

1222
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 2: is the guy and they should move on off for Reeves,

1223
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 2: just opinion. This is an opinion, right. He didn't say

1224
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: we're going to move on from him like we did

1225
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 2: a d he'd say that, you know, he didn't say

1226
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: that nothing.

1227
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right.

1228
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: He should answer, bro, No, I'm saying, this is what

1229
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 2: they said, right, Damn should I answer it's a d

1230
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: facetiming us.

1231
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1232
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: No. But but I don't have a problem.

1233
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 3: With it at all.

1234
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: So you feel this is Lebron's last run with the

1235
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: Lakers this year?

1236
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: Man, it certainly feels that way now. Whether or not

1237
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: it's his end of the Lebron NBA era.

1238
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: That's a different story.

1239
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 2: But as far as the Lakers go, Like when I'm

1240
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: reading an article, I.

1241
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: Think the number has to come down if he's going

1242
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: to stay right his his.

1243
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 2: But I ain't. But but but no, the number ain't

1244
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: got a cop you mean for the Lakers.

1245
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: For the Lakers, his number has to come down if

1246
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: he wants to stay.

1247
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. But but even if it even if I played

1248
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: for the minimum, the league minimum. It's my relationship fracture.

1249
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: Do I feel good walking into Elsagonda, into the building?

1250
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 3: That's it? Ain't even the money that matter.

1251
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 2: I got so fucking much money, I don't. I'm Lebron James,

1252
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: I got I got plenty of money. I got more

1253
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: money than THEMN owners. So it's like, you know, it's

1254
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 2: more about do I want to deal with.

1255
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 3: This organization and plague for the Lakers?

1256
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: Or do I want to go to Golden State or

1257
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 2: do I want to go to somewhere else?

1258
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: You know, and let me flip that up. I need

1259
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: to play devio advocate. What if what you just said

1260
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 1: about Lebron wanting to does the organization want to deal

1261
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: with him?

1262
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard not to deal with a dude

1263
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 2: like that, though I just watched him last two nights ago.

1264
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: It's just hard. He's taking a lot of heat, but

1265
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: his numbers are still numbers.

1266
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 3: When they taking heat, because people just that's just.

1267
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: There's twenty four to seven, Matt.

1268
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 2: I've never I've experienced it to some degree in my

1269
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 2: own career, but I ain't never witnessed the amount of for.

1270
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: Him and hate for him.

1271
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: Stop hating all the motherfucking time. Just give him his due.

1272
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: He's good.

1273
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 3: He's one of the best to ever do it.

1274
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: He's great, he's one.

1275
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 2: Of the greatest to ever do it. He's like, just

1276
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: accept it and leave it alone instead of always trying

1277
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: to poke holes in this man's resume.

1278
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 3: I just saw a dude the other day talk about.

1279
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: His ability to be a nature freaking nature and the

1280
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 2: way he looks it all. Listen to dude, like, just

1281
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 2: put it out on the table to where everybody is like, well,

1282
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 2: Lebron on steroids.

1283
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, why would this dude.

1284
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: Even say this just because everyone got a voice? Shouldn't

1285
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: have a voice. And I'm also thinking too, I said

1286
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: this a while ago, so fucking stupid. The stars of games,

1287
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: the stars of our game, whether it be basketball, football,

1288
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: Like you don't get the age gracefully no more because

1289
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: of shit like that. There's too much media access. Everyone

1290
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: is is a part of the media now.

1291
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 2: But I think if it was me and if I

1292
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 2: was Lebron and you were asking me what I would

1293
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: do at the end of the day, man, I'd.

1294
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: Probably be done twenty three years.

1295
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 2: I mean, like, what more? What more? No matter how

1296
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: much I love the game, what more is it that

1297
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: I have to do, Like, I'm never going to convince

1298
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: half the room that I'm him because the other half

1299
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 2: gonna say no. So I'm never gonna convince half the room.

1300
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 2: So it's like, what is the ultimate goal? What's left?

1301
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: You know, my own career when I I ain't Jerry Rice,

1302
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't trade my career for nobody's. But it's

1303
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:34,959
Speaker 2: a whole lot of people that would trade their for mine,

1304
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: both on and off the field and post career. So

1305
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 2: when I look at that, I say, what is there

1306
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: left to do? If I got championships? He's a billion dollars.

1307
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 2: I'm the face of this. I'm the guy when I

1308
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 2: walk away, I'm gonna be on everybody's McDonald's commercials of

1309
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 2: that like he's but maybe he just loves the game

1310
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 2: and I want to shoot baskets all day. I don't know.

1311
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: Is Luca as a Laker fan? Now? Is Luca the

1312
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna take this team to the name and.

1313
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, Because what we're gonna do, We're gonna go

1314
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: get either Matt Bournes won't put him over there, We're

1315
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: gonna go.

1316
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 3: Get him with Jack put him over there.

1317
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: You know, We're gonna get us some pieces and put

1318
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: him some guys around him, and he'll be the guy.

1319
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 3: He's only been here a season and a half. We'll

1320
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 3: actually a full season.

1321
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 2: Now, right, because if you count so basically a full season.

1322
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: So when you look at it, we always had and

1323
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 2: I say we are speaking the third person as a Laker,

1324
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 2: as we have always had two guys, always two dogs,

1325
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 2: and then we got guys that contribute that are still

1326
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: really good. And I think that that's what they're gonna

1327
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 2: get to, right, they got the one guy because Lebron.

1328
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 2: Let's assume Lebron's gone, so you got Luca. I'm not

1329
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 2: putting Austin Reves in that category. Austin Reeves is good.

1330
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 2: It's a surprise us, but he ain't there yet. We

1331
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 2: can make him Robin if we want to, just for

1332
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:05,959
Speaker 2: media purposes, but no, so getting a y honest wish

1333
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: for thinking that type of thing. You know, you you

1334
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 2: go get you one of them dudes, because I don't

1335
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,959
Speaker 2: even think Jared Jack would be enough, to be honest

1336
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 2: with you.

1337
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't.

1338
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: I don't think so, right, I don't think it's enough.

1339
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: Clippers, one of the hottest teams in the league obviously

1340
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: started the season off with the Kawhi plant conspiracy, but

1341
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: since then, Kawhi has played over seventy percent of the

1342
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: games thirty three plus minutes and having one of the

1343
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: best seasons at twenty eight points fifty forty ninety four

1344
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,439
Speaker 1: splits in your opinion, I know you're a diehard Laker fan,

1345
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: So don't give me this answer with your heart. Give

1346
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: it to me with your with your with your analysis,

1347
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: in your analysts mind. Clippers A Lakers are gonna make

1348
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: it further this year. Lakers, Lakers.

1349
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: Lakers have been more consistent in my opinion than the Clippers.

1350
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, Clippers just the top of my head, hot, yeah.

1351
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 2: You know, just off the top of my head, because

1352
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 2: at any moment, Kawhi, you know over here with us,

1353
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 2: do we sit down at any moment, you know, And

1354
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 2: it ain't because he got It ain't necessarily because he

1355
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 2: getting hurt. It's just they want to rest, tee, but

1356
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 2: they want to you know, they try to hold onto something.

1357
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 2: But I watched them lose the other night to somebody,

1358
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, toront was it Toronto? It might have

1359
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 2: been like Toronto, So I'm like, man, please, man, it's

1360
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: shit here watching the Clippers spent all this money, and

1361
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 2: I don't like the way they did CP three.

1362
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 3: Boy, I don't like the way they did CP three.

1363
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: That was nasty. I didn't like that either. I didn't

1364
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: like the way they did Blake. They signed Blake to us,

1365
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: they moved him, Yeah, they moved Yeah. I mean two

1366
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,959
Speaker 1: of your best players in the franchises. I definitely didn't

1367
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: like those most. Before we get you out of here,

1368
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: you already said you have the Seahawks. Give me a score.

1369
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Seahawks twenty four in New England seventeen.

1370
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: I ain't meant at that.

1371
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: Sam Donald, Sam Donald VP.

1372
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 3: Sam Donald, gotta.

1373
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 1: Get a big quarter back, big for him.

1374
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 2: It's either gonna be Sam Donal or js Hen.

1375
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: It's gotta be big for him. With key Man, I

1376
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: appreciate your time. They can find you weekly. On Schultz,

1377
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: you're still doing stuff.

1378
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm there with Scholtz too.

1379
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: And besides that, you can't see him until he signed

1380
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: this new deal. I can't see and you've seen it,

1381
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,919
Speaker 1: you've seen him here. But besides that, you can't see

1382
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 1: it's coming.

1383
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 3: It's coming. It's coming to you.

1384
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:21,959
Speaker 2: It's coming.

1385
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 3: As they say, it's coming to.

1386
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: A near you.

1387
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: There you got man, I appreciate you man. Best of

1388
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: luck with with your next journey in life, and thanks

1389
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: for coming. That's a wrap, Key Shawn Johnson. You can

1390
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: catch us on all the Smoke Productions YouTube and the

1391
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: Draft Kings Network. See y'all next week.