1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: I listen to the black Gyo Tips podcast because Rod 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: and Karen. Hey, welcome to another episode of the Blackoutis Podcast. 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rod, joined us always by my co host, 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: and we're not alone. You have a special guest. You 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: may know him as a friend of the show, may 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: know him as a stand up comedian, writer, actor. Uh, 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: but I know this man as a politician, a person 8 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: who was running for the Democratic establishment. Now the guy 9 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: we know him as Jail Covin friend of the show 10 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: and now wants to be your congress person if you 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: live in a certain district of New Jersey. 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: What's going on? Man? 13 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: A lot is going on a lot. It's this is 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: kind of a perfect Thanks for having me on this 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: is This is kind of the perfect fight for somebody 16 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 3: like me. Uh. It takes perseverance, It takes wanting to 17 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: fight the system, It takes caring about people, and it 18 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: takes expecting to take a big. 19 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: L I can see it. 20 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: Like, listen, I feel I was thinking today, like what 21 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: if comedy has been you know, just your to set 22 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: up for the training ground, you know, much in the 23 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: way that that Daniels didn't understand wax On wax Off 24 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: like he was. 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: Just like this some bullshit. 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: But then when it was time to hop into the 27 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: ring against Johnny, all of a sudden, wax On wax 28 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: Off made a lot of sense. I feel like you 29 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: having to get five hundred signatures is the ultimate bringer show, 30 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: the ultimate barking. You were basically barking on the side 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: of the road, like, hey, uh, y'all, y'all like y'all 32 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: like politics, y'all, y'all want to come to a politician show. 33 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld not gonna be there, but I'll be there. 34 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: Sign this. 35 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was this experience. It's a baptism by fire. 36 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: And I think New Jersey politics has like a particular 37 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: reputation because you know, in other parts of the country 38 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: it'll be like he's a fisherman who just said he 39 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: was tired of the establishment, and now he's polling at 40 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: thirty nine percent. And with us, this is like basically 41 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 3: a you know, a suburb of New York, this district, 42 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 3: and so it's a big media market. It's a lot 43 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 3: of heavy hitters, a lot of experienced people in different fields, 44 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: whether it's local politics, national politics, or activism. And you know, 45 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: my argument in a broad sense for this is you know, 46 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: the main leaders in this candidacy are a sort of 47 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 3: local machine politician, you know, who's bided his time and 48 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: has been endorsed by a lot of the power people, 49 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: and maybe isn't somebody that will inspire or or help 50 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: help because I think there's two things you have to 51 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 3: be concerned. Of course, with local politics, you're writing for Congress. 52 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: And if Congress work the way it's supposed to, you know, 53 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: the people are supposed to be in charge. That's the 54 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: branch of government where you're supposed to be most responsive 55 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: to your district. That's why you can have a Marjorie 56 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: Taylor Green for all all the problems that causes us. 57 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: Each community gets their say. So it's very important that 58 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: that the congress person be first and foremost focused on 59 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: their district. But what we have now is a Congress, 60 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: especially in Republican hands, that has kind of given up 61 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: all of their power. So it's what use is it 62 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: having a congress person who's responsive to you if the 63 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: whole body isn't even doing what the founders sort of 64 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: intended at the most base level. So I think there's 65 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: a component of yes, must be responsive to the to 66 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: the locals, and you know my answer to that is, yes, 67 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: I may not be a twenty year congress person, but 68 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: I don't view this as like my natural stepping stone 69 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: or my birthright. So you tell me what you want, 70 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: and I have my red lines, I have my conscience, 71 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: I have my own plans and ideas. But first and foremost, 72 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: I'm going there as your messenger, not as I'm not 73 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: running for president. Like you know, you have some people 74 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 3: who it's like I'm going to do this, this, that, 75 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: and it's like, you tell me what you want, and 76 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I believe in and who I am, 77 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 3: and if these things mesh, then we might have a 78 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 3: good arrangement. Right, But there is a component now of 79 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: every you know, they also to say all politics is local. 80 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: We're at a point now where like also all politics 81 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: is national? Yes, And is there somebody in this race 82 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: who cannot just be a hey I got propped up 83 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: by the local system, or hey, I'm a fighter because 84 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: I'm part of the Bernie the Bernie movement, and I'm 85 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: just as concerned with fighting with Democrats as I am 86 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 3: fighting the opposition, because I feel like at this point 87 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 3: in time, I mean, this is I mean, I made 88 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: this analogy with you before it's the end of Game 89 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: of Thrones. It's like, are you serce, are you still 90 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: going to be fighting for your own thing? Are you 91 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: just going to be like this is too big, We'll 92 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 3: fight our intra party battles later. We have to find 93 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: a unified voice. And as the person with the biggest 94 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: social media following, that's the one thing I can hang 95 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: my hat on in the race. That's not nothing because 96 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: I'm not arguing that I'm going to be telling jokes. 97 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: I'm arguing that my usage of media and communications is 98 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: a value and an asset in politics today. You know me, 99 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: in a perfect world, this shit wouldn't matter, but it does. 100 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: You run for office in the country you have, not 101 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: the country you think you wish it might have been 102 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: in a perfect world. And so that's kind of my 103 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: broad case. I have issues that I obviously care about, 104 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: but the broad case for me is. 105 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: That, yeah, I think also, like we watched this happen 106 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: with I'd Say, Mom, Donnie AOC, Margie Taylor Green, the 107 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: online presence kind of trickles down into the local presence, right, 108 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: Like it's like, oh, I sell this person on my 109 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: TikTok oh I saw this. I saw a clip of 110 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: their and I'm you know, and I'm the reason I'm 111 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: bringing up Martie Taylor Green too, is like it's kind 112 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: of a political with that, Like fame and celebrity and 113 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: following and social media charisma and all that stuff is 114 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: kind of a political where it's just like, Oh, that's 115 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: a person that I know, and there's something in the 116 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: human psyche that's just happy to have somebody that's a 117 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: celebrity in a way representing them. Even if the message 118 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: is the exact same as the next candidate, it's like, well, yeah, 119 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: but this guy's going to get that word out there 120 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: because look at what he's been able to do through 121 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: social media. Now, when it comes to like getting the signatures, 122 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: though there's no online cheat code for that. 123 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: You got to go out and get that. 124 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: What was that experience like And how long did you 125 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: have and how many signatures did you get to get 126 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: on the ballot? 127 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: We had? We had ten days. It was over Thanksgiving week, 128 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: so it included you know, days like Thanksgiving. I got 129 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: exactly zero signatures, as you might imagine, so I really 130 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: had nine days. We ended up getting six hundred and 131 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: nineteen signatures. Which was the lowest in the field. But 132 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: I can say firsthand I witnessed people cheating and there 133 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 3: was one experience where they didn't know yet. I think 134 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: that I was that they were showing up to a 135 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: show I was doing, Like, what are the odds a 136 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: comedian on this show will be running for this office? 137 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: Pretty low? 138 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty low? 139 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: And you know they were getting I witnessed multiple candidates 140 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: skirting the rules, and to me, I know, people will 141 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 3: sometimes think, you know, the comedian, who's taking him seriously. 142 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: I'm also been a lawyer. I'm also a highly ethical person, 143 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: right and I'm not if I'm I did comedy the 144 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: right way, and you could argue I've had some wins, 145 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: but overall we had a losing record. I think in comedy, 146 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: you didn't tak no, you did not I did not cheat, 147 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: I did not set. 148 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 4: All your pars. You didn't do a major trade. 149 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: It was it was an ethical tank. Like how the 150 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: Horness get injured every year? 151 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 5: Yes, you like, we're injured, so I guess we're gonna 152 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 5: take these AELs. 153 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: I am. I am the the LaMelo Canipple. But I 154 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: I thought to myself, I was like, I'm I'm getting 155 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: into this because I think I have something to offer 156 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: and I don't do like I would. I would rather 157 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: lose get zero votes than than or not qualify then 158 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: then take a shortcut, like how do you start a 159 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: political career on like a dirty note? It would be 160 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: would be my thing. So the first people I went 161 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 3: out with and and to be honest, I I got 162 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 3: like half of the city. Now I got like thirty 163 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 3: five percent of the signatures. Friends and some fans just 164 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: took petitions, like one one guy, Billy, was a teacher 165 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 3: at a local school. He's not even in the but 166 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: he got like seventeen teachers who live in the district 167 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: to sign it. 168 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 169 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: A friend of mine from college and law school got 170 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 3: like seventy six signatures in his town. 171 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 172 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 3: Because these are people who kind of know me, believe 173 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 3: in me, want to see me in this race. But 174 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 3: also I think got a little motivated by how tough 175 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: a barrier they made it for people to enter. I 176 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: felt like it was a little like five hundred signatures 177 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 3: was tough. Over that week was especially tough. And as 178 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: somebody who I'm joking with, one of the lines I 179 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 3: sort of joke with is a lot of all the 180 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: candidates want to say we're grassroots, we're grassroots. It's like, 181 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: and I learned that lesson from comedy. Everybody would say 182 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: I did it myself, This is a DIY special, this 183 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 3: is all me. And it's like, well, but you do 184 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 3: have an agent, and you do have like a national 185 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 3: show with somebody that you do, and you do have 186 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: a manager, and like you got to a place where 187 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: you could then do it yourself, but you're not really 188 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: doing it yourself. So I said, my campaign is I 189 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: guess dirt base. If these are grassroots, I'm I'm soil. 190 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: My campaign is soil. 191 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: Alexots yes. 192 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 3: To Covan, but yeah, it's it's betting. The Stagings was 193 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: the first people we went out with, and Laura was 194 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: out with me several times and and I joked on 195 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 3: Rain on your parade, I said, it takes a real 196 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: scumbag to be a comedian or a politician, right, because 197 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: you end up bringing these like this work and this 198 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: emotional burden into the relationship when you're doing something so 199 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 3: personal and so tough, and you know, I I recognize 200 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 3: that for any flaws I have, I am deeply touched 201 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: by anybody, including my girlfriend who you know, has like 202 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: a moral obligation to support me. I guess, like anybody 203 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: who who is out there. It is very touching and 204 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 3: at my level, oddly enough, it's like my comedy. You 205 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: you have more of a connection because you don't have 206 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: some army of like paid professionals and volunteers and staff 207 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: who are like all thinking you're the horse that's gonna 208 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: get They want to give me a shot. 209 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 2: Right. 210 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: They're not doing this because they think I'll win. They 211 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: hope i'll win, they hope I can pull off a miracle. 212 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: But they're doing this just to give me a shot. 213 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 3: And that's very touching and and and profound in a way. 214 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: And so the first people we go up to Laura 215 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 3: and I the night the day the petitions were available, legally, 216 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 3: I should say, I. 217 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 2: Guess, yeah. 218 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: We go to this theater in Montclair. There was a concert. 219 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: It was like a laser light show, like Grateful Dead 220 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: type concert. So she was like, it's probably going to 221 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: be liberals, Like, it'll probably be like liberal people who 222 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: go to this concert, right, I go, Okay, let's try. 223 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: Now I get there. It's all white. That doesn't mean 224 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: it's not liberals. It's a it's a you know, the 225 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: district is majority white, majority Democratic, but I just had 226 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 3: a feeling, you know, It's like, I feel like you 227 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 3: can judge a Maga book by a Maga cover. 228 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: Right right. 229 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: So I walk up to these three people and I say, hey, uh, 230 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 3: just just curious. So you guys happen to be registered 231 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: Democrats in the district, and the question I got from 232 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: one of them was liberal or conservative? And I was like, okay, well, 233 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: I know already where this is going because I just 234 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: said Democratic. So I said, well, I'm running for the 235 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: Democratic primary. And the second guy in the group of 236 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 3: three said, yeah, I don't vote for baby killers. And 237 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: I said, well that's okay, because I haven't killed any babies. 238 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 3: I just said, all. 239 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: Right, he said, I said, I don't vote for baby killers. 240 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: I vote for pedophiles. 241 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: Okay. It's a big difference, and Megan Kelly know the difference. 242 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: Between a nine and a fifteen year old, but yes, 243 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: that was it was like, and I thought to myself, 244 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: I was like, sir, I don't think you've ever done 245 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: anything pro life in your life, Like you don't say 246 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: I didn't say this. This is the lesson I learned 247 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: when you have a clipboard. It's like you're wearing a 248 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: sign that says I'm a bitch. 249 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah kick me. You can. 250 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 3: You can talk to me like you wouldn't talk to 251 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 3: another person or a guy who looks like a retired 252 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 3: WWF wrestler. Yeah, you can talk to because and that's 253 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: a that's an interesting lesson where it's like, oh, I'm 254 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: trying to do something positive, right, so feel free to 255 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 3: insult me. 256 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: And and you're how tall again? 257 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: Six seven two ninety though I've lost like fifteen pounds 258 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: in two weeks because I'm not eating. 259 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't gonna talk about your way. You know 260 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: that isn't either here nor there. But I just want 261 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: to point out your six seven right. And I'm sure 262 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: he was like, hey, I don't both of no, right, 263 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: It's like, uh, that's only because of the power to clipboard. 264 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: It's almost like being online on social media tonight. 265 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 266 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: It's kryptonite for me, right, it does the reverse for them. 267 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: It makes them supermans. 268 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, actually, now that you need something. 269 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: You know, And I joked on I said that like 270 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 3: when I approach people, I start to feel like Ben 271 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: Stiller and Happy Gilmour, like hey, mayor are you a 272 00:13:58,600 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: Democratic voter? 273 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 4: Yeah? 274 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: Is that my voice? 275 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: Going to do some food? I have a moment of 276 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 3: your time. That's why I say something rude. It's like, 277 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 3: how about I give you a cup of shut the 278 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: hell up to you? 279 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, now your fingers are gonna be hurting alone 280 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: with your face right. 281 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: But it's but you know, most what I what I've said, 282 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 3: and I mean it is that for every eight people 283 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: who react either rudely or awkwardly, like there's a lot 284 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: of like awkward like I said something very strange to people. 285 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 3: You know, it's that's alarming in and of itself, but 286 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: you'd get a good conversation or somebody who'd give you 287 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: the time of day, and that recharges you and you 288 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: feel like, hey, I you know sometimes people wouldn't even 289 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: sign up. And I said on Karen Hunter's show, you 290 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: know she she came out to my Starbucks for an 291 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 3: hour just to hang out and to try and get 292 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: a few people to show up. And one or two 293 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: people came up, came and could sign, and then they 294 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: were like half a dozen people who showed up who 295 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: couldn't sign but were trying. And you just said even 296 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: that it felt good. That effort and that reach out 297 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: was worth signatures to me because it gave me a 298 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: little bit of extra emotional boost because this is it 299 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: was a very and I will say this, the comedy 300 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: experience prepped me for this, because it's very lonely doing this, 301 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: you know, maybe not for some of the other candidates. 302 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: For me, it felt very lonely and very cold because 303 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: You're standing outside all day in cold weather and I'm 304 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: not in like a parka because i want people to 305 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: see me and not look like a snowman when they 306 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 3: meet me, and you know, so it's it was. It 307 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: was physically intense and and a little emotionally draining, but 308 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 3: we got there and I just felt complete gratitude. I 309 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: didn't feel like, yeah, I did it. I really felt 310 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 3: like we did this. You guys helped me so much 311 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: and were like believed in me and just wanted me 312 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: to have an opportunity, and that that was that was. 313 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: It seemed like you kind of did it the way 314 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: that you know, the story of politics is told. You know, oh, yeah, 315 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: you just one man wants to change his town and 316 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: you get involved and you get you go out and 317 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: you meet people and yeah, much like comedy. When you 318 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: get involved, you see like, wait, no, motherfuckers get signatures beforehand. 319 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: They got a whole team. Uh you know, they got 320 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: they got these ties of people, phone banking. What would 321 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: it take for you to get a team of people? Like, 322 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: is that a thing that you're aspiring to have or 323 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: you're going to try to go you know, grassroots solo 324 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: all the way we're got. 325 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I have I have if if if my 326 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: team includes my website guy of almost twenty years, okay, 327 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: who built a website in about three the website I have, 328 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: which is really nice. Uh he built it in about 329 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: three days of the non stop work. Damn. I have 330 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: a campaign manager and I have two friends in d 331 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: C who are like heavily advising me. That's it. That's 332 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: that's the team. It's it's literally, you know, an a team. 333 00:16:59,440 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 4: Now. 334 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: Is that something? 335 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: Is that something you want? 336 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 4: Like that? 337 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: Like that's just keeping lean and mean? Are is this 338 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: something where you look around these other candidates like, okay, 339 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: how do I get the apparatus you have so that 340 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: I can you know, not have to do so much 341 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: by myself? 342 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 3: Right? I think I think the key and here's you know, 343 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 3: the first ask of the black guy who tips fan, 344 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: I think away brother raising money because this is such 345 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: a shortened experience, like it's we have. We have two 346 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 3: months till the primary. Okay, so raising money allows your 347 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: hire people, allows you to. 348 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 4: Look man having the tip shape. 349 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: Go ahead, brother, raise that money. 350 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 5: Ask that plate till the brother jail pass around. 351 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 3: It is a like the money sends a message. And 352 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 3: and there are people I won't be able to compete 353 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 3: with in this race. There are people who have a mass, 354 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 3: like you know, they came into this race with like 355 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: four hundred thousand dollars ready to go right. But the 356 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: more money I get just to just so it appears 357 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 3: viable and will allow us to make the ad I 358 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: want to make, get like a mailer or two to 359 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: to targeted homes, because that's that's an expensive, relatively expensive operation. 360 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: Every donation counts Like if if every one of my fans, 361 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 3: and this will make you laugh, because we already once 362 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 3: I say every one of my fans to do anything. 363 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: If I said every one of my fans, if they 364 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 3: could just ignore my work, you'd be like, I think 365 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 3: they can do it. 366 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 4: I think they can. 367 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: We got we got this, We got even we have 368 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: been practicing. 369 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 4: We have been waiting for this moment. 370 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: But if I said every one of my fans, every 371 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: one of your fans that could, that is able because 372 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 3: I know the trust me. It's but everyone who could 373 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: gave ten bucks. Obviously if you can give it more more, 374 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 3: but every you know, then we'd have a big chunk 375 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 3: of change for this Like initial this is it's like 376 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 3: a startup, and everybody says, like I just took a 377 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: million dollar loan from my parents and created this billion 378 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: dollar company. Now that doesn't mean you didn't do work, 379 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 3: has an idea, et cetera. But when you tell somebody 380 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 3: who is locked out of that initial burst, it doesn't 381 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 3: matter what your idea is. In the cases, and this 382 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: is an example of like, if I can get to 383 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 3: X dollars just for this, like next be pre Christmas, 384 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: pre Christmas, get to a certain amount where I can 385 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: make an ad, get a mail or out, that may 386 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 3: be enough to shift and get me in the conversation. 387 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 3: Because right now I'm in the conversation as a novelty, 388 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: not as you know. I know the few events I've 389 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 3: been to so far, people come up to me after 390 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 3: and they say, if you don't win this which I 391 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 3: know it's you know, we both know is not likely 392 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: at this point because you're a dark horse, underdog candidate. 393 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: We want you to stay involved because we see that 394 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 3: you are somebody with passion, with with with communication skills, 395 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: with a desire to strengthen the Democratic Party in a 396 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 3: way that these other candidates don't represent. You know, everybody 397 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: always wants John Stewart, Stephen Colbert to get involved. They're 398 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 3: not getting involved, right and all these other peop people 399 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 3: who talk on politics, they're not leaving their their ten 400 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 3: million dollar patreons exactly actually do something. I'm in a 401 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 3: sort of weirdly sweet spot where it's like I've built 402 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 3: up enough of a name, but I actually care more 403 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: about this than I do about the jokes that mock 404 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 3: Trump after the fact, right, I care more about trying 405 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 3: to do something at this point preemptive and helpful and 406 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 3: so money and like signing up for you know, at 407 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 3: my website just for updates and being able to share 408 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: the website if you know people in Jersey say, you 409 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 3: might want to check this guy out, but right now 410 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 3: adding you know, getting people to sign up for the 411 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 3: website just for updates and to build a list and 412 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: then any donation, like if anybody was a Patreon subscriber, 413 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 3: anybody ever tipped a YouTube video, anybody ever bought a 414 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: ticket to see me. Pretend like I'm coming to your 415 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 3: town and the tickets are twenty bucks, right, and you're 416 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: you're not you're Rod fans who are fans of mine. 417 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 3: You're you're Karen fans who are fans of mine. You're 418 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: not my fans, right, you are the good fans who 419 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 3: have them and love me as by my relationships them. 420 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: You would be at that show. And this is real. 421 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: This is not a gimmick, This is not this is 422 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: I really believe that what I can bring to the 423 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: table can help and I want to be in it. 424 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 3: It's it's it's. 425 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: To give money. 426 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: Yes, oh yeah, good, good good. My my manager would 427 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: be very mad. I haven't already said that donate donate 428 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: to the number two or t o either one, but 429 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 3: donate to j L dot com and uh, volunteers. I 430 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 3: think if you go to the webs if you send 431 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: your email and you can contact you can contact the 432 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: the through US and just send an email to the 433 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: campaign like I, uh, you know, I'd like to volunteer 434 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: or help if you could keep me on a list 435 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 3: for when you know there's a call to action. My 436 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: campaign manager will collect those those signatures not signatures, those 437 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: those emails and sort of, you know, put them together 438 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: for for when there's a call to action. 439 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 4: Ay j L. 440 00:21:58,920 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 3: What is yes? 441 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 5: What is it between what you thought you was getting 442 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 5: into in the reality of it? Because you know it 443 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 5: once you started, you know, you have all these ideas 444 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 5: and all that stuff, and then you get into it 445 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 5: and you realize it's something completely different. Like what was 446 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 5: the two biggest difference between what you thought in the 447 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 5: reality of it? 448 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 3: It's the feeling. I think it's like they tell you, 449 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: I wasn't let astray, Like man, when you get in, 450 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 3: it's gonna be like, like awesome, and it's got no 451 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 3: people are like it's a grind, and when you get 452 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 3: those signatures, it will become more of a grind. But 453 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 3: there is being told about it and there's experiencing. 454 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 4: Right, and. 455 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 3: It's it's I think for me, the difficulty is there's 456 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 3: only so many days before February fifth, and do you 457 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 3: reach enough people both changing people's minds Because a lot 458 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 3: of these candidates come with locked in bases already. They 459 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: come from a political community, they come from like a 460 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 3: lot of the candidates have their own packs, their own 461 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: like Bernie Sanders endorsed a woman who worked for him. 462 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 3: That's a big right get when you're running in that 463 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 3: kind of outsider TM lane if I can, if I 464 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 3: can quote Rod in terms of using the TM and 465 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 3: then there's a lot of deeply inside candidates and with 466 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: this amount of time, our strategy has to be a 467 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: hybrid of who can we convince that is leaning not 468 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: as locked in, but is leaning somewhere, but that you 469 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 3: need to send someone different in twenty twenty five to 470 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 3: fight for you. You need somebody with it, with a little 471 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: bit of a different skill set, a little bit different energy. 472 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 3: Because if you want me to come with a presidential platform, 473 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 3: you know that's all. That's all great, and that's good, 474 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: but you need a heat seeking missile. You need somebody 475 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: who can broaden the party but also be a forceful 476 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 3: voice for what you want, right And. 477 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: So I think also, I think that energy is out 478 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: there now. I think when you look at I forgure 479 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: get the ladies' names, but those two blonde women who 480 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: are podcasters who like cussed. 481 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: Out rome of my Emmanuel. 482 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: There's a type of energy that I don't think is 483 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: being served by the Democratic Party, that I don't think 484 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: is being served even by these outsider voices that are 485 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: like both parties are bad, and there's this voice of like, no, 486 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,239 Speaker 1: I'm proud of the accomplishments and the aims and the 487 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: goals of the Democratic Party. I'm not running from this. 488 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of this. I don't think it's wrong 489 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: to want the things that I want, and I'm forcefully 490 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 1: saying these are the right things, as opposed to what 491 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: I believe is a constant apology from the Democratic Party 492 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: that in large and I think it leads to, honestly, 493 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: instead of a rallying cry, it leads to like more like, 494 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: let's just be critical. 495 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: What they're really inviting is critiques. 496 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: What they want to hear is feedback for what they're 497 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: doing wrong, as opposed to like what I think rallies 498 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: people is a strong Sometimes it's a strong like no, no, 499 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: this is the right thing to do. 500 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: We should just get behind this. 501 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: Like it doesn't mean you can't improve or whatever, but like, uh, 502 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: instead of being like you didn't get every student loan. Uh, 503 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: and then you turn and go, well, yeah, we're gonna 504 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: try to get every student. We're sorry about that, instead 505 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: of being like, no, we got the majority of student loans, 506 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: like people were paying bills and then they don't you know, 507 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: housing where you. 508 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 3: Could say if you said with student loans, just to 509 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: leave that. It's like, well, Biden tried, he came, he tried, 510 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 3: and the Supreme Court that wouldn't have been like this 511 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 3: if Hillary Clinton was president, right shut it down. Yes, 512 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 3: so and nobody. It's almost like one of those things 513 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: where democrats, as we've discussed, have to do this thing 514 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: like what but you don't don't lecture the voters, teach 515 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 3: them about democracy, but cowtow to their every whim and don't. 516 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 3: And to me, it's you know, at this point, like 517 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: my argument and I made this on your show maybe 518 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 3: maybe the last time I was on is democrats, and 519 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: I've said this. Somebody at the at a town hall 520 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 3: said to me, I've never heard it put that way. 521 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: That was very good where I said, we need democrats 522 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 3: who are going to engage people, but can also begin 523 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 3: a long march towards not undoing what Trump did. And 524 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: we have to take a page out of the Republican playbook, 525 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 3: which is we want Tom Brady throwing an eighty yard 526 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 3: touchdown pass to Randy moss Yay, what we did it, 527 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 3: Medicare for all. We did it. We got the We 528 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 3: got the big, unbelievable, tremendous victory that we all think 529 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 3: is right, and we got it. I look at it, 530 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 3: and I say, I've broken down certain things where I say, like, 531 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: elder care is an area of deep importance to me 532 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: and to like a lot of my friends as their 533 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: parents are getting older. I've seen it with my own parents. 534 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 3: I say, what if we took that Bernie energy and 535 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 3: either put it into a public option instead of medicare. 536 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 3: Let's let's mobilize for the public option, or let's mobilize 537 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 3: for a Japanese style in insurance system for our elders 538 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 3: that is comprehensive so that there they they age with 539 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 3: dignity and their kids don't go emotionally or financially bankrupt 540 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 3: right with the stress. What if we took that energy 541 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 3: and said, you know what, let's fight like hell to 542 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 3: pick up eight yards on this play right, and then 543 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: celebrate the shit out of that pick up the way 544 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 3: the Republicans every time some trans kid gets banned from 545 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 3: a little league baseball game. It's on Fox News and 546 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 3: they're going, look at what we're fighting for. Yes, we 547 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 3: treat everything but the biggest victories as a piece of shit. 548 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 5: Right jail, And it's memoralizing it, and it makes people 549 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 5: feel like what's the point, And it's like you can't 550 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 5: complain about everything. It's like, you know, when you watch 551 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 5: any sports, particularly football, you have four times to make 552 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 5: ten yards. You don't get all ten yards you first 553 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 5: tried most of the time. 554 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: It's very ironic Karen saying this because the way Karen 555 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: watches sports, which we watch a lot of sports together. 556 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: Is that every no it's not that, it's when we go. 557 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: To the basketball game we watch football, every play should 558 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: be a positive play, as if the other team is 559 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,239 Speaker 1: not even out there, as if like why didn't we 560 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: score the basket every time? You know, And I rationally 561 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: try to tell her like, hey, you know, the other 562 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: team is good too, and they are attempting to stop 563 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: us from doing things, and sometimes players fuck up like 564 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: it happens, like she says famously, free throws are free points. 565 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: They are, She's correct, and that they should be. 566 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: But she also says as a person that's never run 567 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: forty minutes in a row and then tried to shoot 568 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: a free throw. 569 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 4: I have not. 570 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: So when we are watching sports, she becomes the Democratic nasay, 571 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: she is the person that's. 572 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: Like, why didn't body get the Green New Deal? Immediately? 573 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 4: Different? But in politics rooting for Biden, I'm not and 574 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 4: give up. 575 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: But those people also think that too, and they didn't. 576 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: They give up and go home, and they'd be like, 577 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm never watching this team again. 578 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: I'm saying back next week, I'm saying. 579 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 3: Biden gave us. Biden gave us big victories, and then 580 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: we didn't celebrate them. We trashed him, We trashed his administration. 581 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: And then Trump is undoing the things that we never 582 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 3: even highlighted to begin with. 583 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, every day you're finding a new error program 584 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: that is just gone. 585 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: But one of the things I was gonna say. 586 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: Though, is have you thought about, like, what are the 587 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: rules around money in this campaign? 588 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 5: Like? 589 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: What? 590 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: Because I know the rules very different districts and stuff, 591 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: So what are the rules to money? Is there limit 592 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: on who, how many people can donate, how much a 593 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: person can donate? 594 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: Like how does that work? 595 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, it's I think it's I want 596 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: to say the max is like five thousand. I was like, uh, 597 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: I think, and of course that's you know, yeah, I'm 598 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 3: asking for small donations from lots of people or versus 599 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 3: big donations from a few. 600 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 4: But if you could get. 601 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: Americans, are you gonna turn it down? Are you gonna 602 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: be like, I'm sorry, that's too big a donation. 603 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, because I'm not taking any like 604 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 3: organized pack money. So it's like yeah, And I joked 605 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 3: on another show, uh the other day, I said, and 606 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 3: if you are you have to be American to donate, 607 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 3: that's it. You could even live in a foreign country. 608 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 3: If you're American, you can donate. If you are not American, 609 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 3: you can't donate. And I said, and I guess now 610 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 3: that Trump is like pardoning narco terrorists. I guess if 611 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 3: you're a horrible criminal, but you're American, you can donate 612 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 3: to my campaign. And I'm just I'm just trying to 613 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 3: be like, played by the rules as I see them. 614 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,959 Speaker 1: I think, Uh, I think, uh is it Henry Kuehler 615 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: is how he says his name. The I think he 616 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: may have fucked it up for everybody because he got 617 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: pardoned by Trump and then announced that he's gonna run 618 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: for office again, but as a Democrat still, and then 619 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: Trump got mad. It was like that's it. No more 620 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: missed the nice guy. And I'm like, well fuck, maybe 621 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: that was how jail could get in. Was he could, 622 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, finesse the system and then run. 623 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no Trump. I'm actually we're still on 624 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 4: the same side. I'm just going in as a d right. 625 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 3: It is. It is funny though that when you look 626 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 3: at Trump, it's like his only bipartisan issue is corruption. 627 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: Right. 628 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: He's like, I will I don't see party lines when 629 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: I see somebody abusing our system for self gain. 630 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 4: Right, He's like, listen, what side you on? I don't care. 631 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't care if you're black, white, purple, if you 632 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: a corrupt, or you a pedophile, I got you. 633 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: Okay, that's covered. We need to come together as America. 634 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: The criminals. What about what. 635 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: About like some unorthodox like type of people to get 636 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: money from? You know, have you looked around. I mean 637 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: you're in New Jersey. I've seen sopranos. 638 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: You thought about any of those bars? You know, see 639 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: see what you can do. 640 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: Maybe you can make the change the laws for strip 641 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: clubs up there or something. 642 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: For him, maybe bought a being for j L. 643 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: Woke up this one. 644 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 3: It's this is all all all kidding aside, and I 645 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: like to I like to keep things light. But it's 646 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: like the raising money part is the part, Like it's 647 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 3: the one thing I'm comfortable talking to strangers. I'm comfortable 648 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 3: talking to people of the other side. I'm talking, I'm 649 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 3: comfortable arguing or debating with people, but asking for money 650 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 3: it's still it's like an it's like an uncomfortable thing 651 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 3: for me. 652 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: Well, that's what you really struggled in your comedy career too, 653 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: like that, like this this is a through line for 654 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: life for you. 655 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 3: Because I just I just want people. I want people 656 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: to I want people to donate. But it's it's it 657 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 3: is one of those and they they'll they'll laugh and say, 658 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 3: well you better get comfortable doing it. Yeah, And and 659 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,959 Speaker 3: it is one of those things where you say, on 660 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: a personal level, you're like, I wish elections weren't weren't 661 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: like this this money grab telethon, but they are, and 662 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 3: you just I just hope that I can people can 663 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 3: sort of see what I'm selling. 664 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: Well, what sucks is that we need the people who 665 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: are the most comfortable being like money, money, money about 666 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: the ship are obviously the people that we are the 667 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: most worried about when it kills. 668 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you don't like fundraising you just do 669 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 3: the job, then you can't do the job, yes, Zach bo, 670 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 3: you might not be the type of person we want doing. 671 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: The job exactly. 672 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: So like I wish, we do need to find a 673 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: hybrid that can turn it on and be like, hey man, 674 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to the money part, I have to 675 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: be comfortable with that because I can't serve you. 676 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: In a in not a capectity. 677 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: I think Mom Donnie was a great example to a 678 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: lot of people because the fervor behind him was you know, 679 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: the money, boom boom boom, and then he's making as 680 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: like he's putting out videos like that's we got the money, 681 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: like we made, we made the money, made our goals. 682 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: This is enough money to run for mayor if you 683 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: want to help, now get feet on the street, volunteer 684 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: like this is a different removing the campaign. And I 685 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: thought that was really endearing too, because a lot of 686 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: people I believe who are who understand money is a 687 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: demand of the job, like you can't be a politician 688 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: in America and went office with no money. But it's 689 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: refreshing to have a politician be like, oh no, I 690 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: was it. You know, we're not gonna keep sending you 691 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: text messages like you know, you know Senator Shoeing needs 692 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: your help, or you know they kidnapped NESI Putlosa's baby. 693 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: You got ten dollars, we can get out. 694 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 4: It has slowed down a little bit, but they still 695 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 4: come in. 696 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 2: It's a little scary. So what about crypto? 697 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: Have you thought about maybe crypto some bribes, I don't know, 698 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 1: maybe some sort of like you know, shady like, oh, 699 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: you're buying a watch, the watch costs a million dollars. 700 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 4: People. 701 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 3: I've had a few. I mean, I've had a few 702 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 3: foreign people. Not to quote Stringer Bell from the wire, 703 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 3: but I've had a few people basically just write to 704 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 3: me on social media like, is there any way a 705 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: foreign fan can circumvent and donate jumbo what? I was like, 706 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 3: first of all, no, what, and why, like A no, 707 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 3: that's just no, right, and also this is public, right. Yeah, 708 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 3: I've had people send I've had a couple of people 709 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 3: send me private messages and they were kind of joking. 710 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 3: They're like, what if somebody like bought a bunch of 711 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 3: cameos from you and left you generous tips? And I said, 712 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 3: I said, don't even joke about it, Like I'm getting 713 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 3: cameo orders still, but I don't want to see anything 714 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 3: out of the ordinary, right, Yeah, I just once again, 715 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 3: it's like I'm gonna lose fairly like on my terms, 716 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 3: like I'm not and I don't you know, if if 717 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 3: I don't want to say, like if I were like 718 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 3: some twenty year politicians and this was like the last 719 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: stop of my career, I still wouldn't do it. But 720 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 3: at least then I'd be like, well, I know why 721 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 3: that dude was corrupt. He was like, this is all 722 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,479 Speaker 3: I got me. It is my first race. 723 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: It's also it's also interesting too because like the Elon 724 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: Musk runs Twitter, I feel like at any point the 725 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: d m s could be exposed for all of us. 726 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 6: Like I feel like, turned out the jail was very corrupt, 727 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 6: putting him. We're going to release the jail files today. 728 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 6: What he was doing, Like basically his might be the 729 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 6: most corrupt politician. And this has nothing this this has 730 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 6: nothing to do with the fact that he was doing 731 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 6: a very nasty impression of me, you know, about corruption 732 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 6: and getting it. 733 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 1: Did you see the video of him on Rogan trying 734 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: to tell us that Rock is a good idea for 735 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving is to have Rock roast your family. 736 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 3: I did not see that. 737 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 2: Dude. 738 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: He's like, it's the funniest thing ever. It's I'm gonna 739 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: pull it up. But it was so It was so 740 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: interesting because there's a thing that is missing in a 741 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 1: person like Elon Musk what he wants to be liked, 742 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 1: and he really wants to be funny. 743 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 4: Yes, Like I don't know, he's not. He's terrible at both. 744 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 4: People don't like you and you're not funny. 745 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why he wants that exactly. 746 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: What I do feel like you would represent a a 747 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: certain type of threat to his ego if you're like, 748 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: if you're on his radar, I feel like you being 749 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: funny doing the impression of him. Uh, when it's clearly 750 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: something he wants to be Uh. 751 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 3: You know, money can't buy It can buy you people 752 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 3: who will laugh at you, but it can't buy you humor. 753 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 4: It really agree, either you're funny or you're not right. 754 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say this. I just have to say 755 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 3: without revealing anything. You know, in my legal career, I've 756 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 3: seen you know, correspondence among millionaires and billionaires, and man, 757 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 3: do billionaires get treated differently? Like you can see it 758 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 3: in you can see it in correspondence where it's just 759 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 3: like fawning over the most insignificant thing, like, my god, 760 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 3: it was an incredible honor. You're such great conversation. Everything is, 761 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 3: and it's I would hate to It's like when Seinfeld 762 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 3: did his documentary many like twenty three years ago or something, 763 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 3: and he would just get up on stage that is 764 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 3: like the height of his powers. Just after Seinfeld and 765 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 3: he would get up on stage and they just be 766 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 3: laughing at everything he said. And you could tell it 767 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 3: irked him because it was like, yeah, but I got 768 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 3: I gotta learn if this is good, right, I gotta 769 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: know if this is good. So he cared about the 770 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 3: objective truth of his jokes being funny or not. And 771 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of these billionaires they drink that. 772 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 3: I would hate that. I would be like, do you 773 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 3: think I'm funny? Right? Like like like watch this. 774 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this clip up real quick, the well, 775 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 1: look at this, this is crazy? 776 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 2: Uh, how bad. 777 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 7: This is let's try unhinged. 778 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 2: Oh this is an n hingebone. 779 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 5: Okay, heyah, oh my god, Elon Fresh, hell, are you 780 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 5: stirring up today? 781 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 7: I'm here, I'm here in Joe Rogan's studio, and we're 782 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 7: having a conversation about how crazy the news is. 783 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 2: Pull her up to the microphone. 784 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 7: Okay, and we're pulling you up to the microphone. People 785 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 7: can hear you? 786 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 3: Hilarious? 787 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 2: Oh fantastic? 788 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 3: Now I can yell into the void about how the 789 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 3: news is a total dumpster fire. It is. 790 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,919 Speaker 4: Like, oh, that's bad, that's real. Bad. 791 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,720 Speaker 3: Is probably worth like a hundred million, right, it's still 792 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 3: more is Rogan to Musk in terms of finances, and 793 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 3: so there's still that Oh man, now he might you 794 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 3: could say he's being a gracious host, but he likes 795 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 3: Elon like they're boys, and it's just like. 796 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 2: But also, Joe Rogan is missing. 797 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan is a guy who called like Mark Marin 798 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: a hack and people calling people calling professional comedians unfunny 799 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: because they don't agree with like going to Saudi Arabia 800 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: or something. Right, this guy is not Elon Musk is 801 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 1: not cracking Joe Rogan. But Joe Rogan is letting himself 802 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,479 Speaker 1: appear to be cracked up. And one of the things 803 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: I thought was funny in a different clip is Elon 804 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: Musk is like, well, you know, it's uh, it's so funny, 805 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 1: it's so a hinged. 806 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 2: Crock is so good. 807 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 1: And then Joe Rogan keeps saying, like five times in 808 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: a row like yeah, and it just keeps getting better 809 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,280 Speaker 1: and it's just good. And that's the thing. I keep thinking, 810 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna keep getting better. And I was like, you 811 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: know what that is code for? He's really saying it 812 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: sucks right now. 813 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 4: It's not good. 814 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: What you're really saying is it's not good now. But 815 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: it's just the promise of AI is that it will 816 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: be good one day. And that's what's really fascinating is 817 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: that it won't suck eventually. For you to waste three 818 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: minutes on my show doing this hacky bullshit that's not funny, 819 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,720 Speaker 1: and me having to pretend that it is gonna fucking 820 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: sell out. 821 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 4: He was looking like, I wouldn't even let you be 822 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 4: my opening act. What is this? 823 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: Are they gonna be like like debates and stuff in 824 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: this race that you're in, or is it just kind 825 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: of like you. 826 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 2: Run your race and then boom, it's time to vote. 827 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 3: It depends I think what probably the front runners are 828 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 3: hoping for, you know, the top three are probably hoping 829 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 3: people drop out people, you know, and then there's a 830 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 3: big question of okay, if we are if eight of 831 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 3: us or six of us or ten of us make 832 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 3: it you know past Christmas? Is there a debate scheduled? 833 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 3: And then you know, they can, I assume set the 834 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 3: rules for how to qualify, which is why donations, so 835 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 3: that you hit certain thresholds of money raised or number 836 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 3: of donors, and then using that money as fast as 837 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 3: possible to do Like I have this ad that I 838 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 3: wrote that'll be like a YouTube video, but you know, 839 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 3: we've used that the production of it would not be 840 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 3: too costly, but then the money would go towards like 841 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 3: get everybody in Jersey to see this video, send it 842 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 3: to the media, like let it, let it go viral 843 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 3: as we sort of poke holes at like the three 844 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 3: front runners and make the case for a normal, proud, 845 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 3: progressive democrat, progressive but not annoying, right, you know, like 846 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 3: kind of kind of kind of lane and then you know, 847 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,760 Speaker 3: so so and then that gets you on the radar 848 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 3: of maybe undecided or people who are low propensity voters. 849 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 3: Maybe they go I kind of like the comedian guy, 850 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 3: like if you so, it's it's that's what we're I 851 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 3: want to say, afraid of. But that's what we're trying 852 00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 3: to fight early is like donations, name wreck ignition, so 853 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 3: that if they pull something like January second, say the 854 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 3: day the one debate will be January tenth, and if 855 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 3: you haven't reached x dollars or x donors or x 856 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 3: percent in the poll, you are you're excluded. And then 857 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 3: you can basically probably bury your candidacy if you're not 858 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 3: at that point in the conversation. So that's why this 859 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,760 Speaker 3: this kind of urgency now to sort of be prepared, 860 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 3: and like I said, when I meet people, when they 861 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 3: see me, they can see, you know, one of these 862 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 3: is not like the other. You know, and my credentials 863 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 3: as a lawyer, as a as a democrat or are 864 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 3: sort of solid. It's the comedian thing that maybe makes 865 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 3: me memorable. And then you sort of try to meet 866 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,760 Speaker 3: as many people and let them know, like the comedy 867 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 3: stuff is a plus factor. It's not why you vote 868 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 3: for me alone, but those skills are why you should 869 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 3: consider me. 870 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: Is it hard to hold back from because I see 871 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: how you treat the fans that try to punch up 872 00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,040 Speaker 1: your jokes or punch down as we refer to. But 873 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: when you're running as a candidate, as a politician, I 874 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: feel like the punch ups are kind of the kind 875 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: of part of it, right, the idea like, oh this policy? 876 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 2: Have you thought about this thing? 877 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: Are you able to control the evil inside that would 878 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: that would just you know, seize on a person and 879 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: strangle the life out of them comedically? 880 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 2: Are you able to keep that in check? 881 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 3: And well, here's and yes, yes I am. And here's 882 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 3: why I consider myself a comedy expert. I'm not an 883 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 3: expert on your town, like, uh, when I come to 884 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 3: your town, and and the people who show up to 885 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 3: these events are sort of high interest voters. They skew older, 886 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 3: they care, they that many of them seem to know 887 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 3: their stuff or at least know their concerns. So it 888 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 3: would it would be wrong of me to sort of 889 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,359 Speaker 3: be like, well, no, no, no, you can't. Like it's 890 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 3: more like, no, I'm here to listen to you. I'm 891 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 3: here to make a case for myself, but listen to 892 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 3: you and I know this sounds like I'm doing petitician speak, 893 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 3: but this is the truth. This is what government is 894 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 3: supposed to be. You look at me as a person, 895 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 3: you look at my qualifications, if you think I am 896 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 3: worth considering. Now it's time for you to give me 897 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 3: your ideas, your concerns, and we have a conversation. I 898 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,399 Speaker 3: take them in and we see what we can do. 899 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 3: You know, on the man on the street stuff the signatures, 900 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 3: that was more more alarming because you ran into a 901 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 3: lot more people, even in affluent areas where you respect, 902 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 3: like on average, i'll see more educated people, I'll see 903 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 3: more in tune and people. Many people were really really 904 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 3: tuned out. And it's not my place to tell them 905 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,800 Speaker 3: how to live their lives. I get it some people 906 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 3: tune out because it's too stressful, But you can tell 907 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 3: kind of a tuned out because I'm tired of it 908 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 3: and tuned out because I never paid attention, right and yeah, 909 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 3: and so that was a little more frustrating, But that's 910 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 3: not the time to be picking fights and arguing when 911 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 3: you're trying to gather signatures. But now I think a 912 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 3: lot of the people I see are our concerned citizens 913 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 3: who in some cases will know more. They know more 914 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 3: about their concerns than I do. Of course, you know, 915 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 3: so I can't just go, uh no, you're wrong to 916 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 3: be worried about. 917 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: That, right, Yeah, I do wonder what I having it because, 918 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: like Karen Hunter when I was on the show, sometimes. 919 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,280 Speaker 3: Somebody tells me how to write a joke, they'll catch these. 920 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: Verbal Have you thought about changing this line in your commercial? 921 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,919 Speaker 1: I think it's funny because, like Karen Hunter, like will 922 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: suggest or pride to be like, maybe you know, we 923 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: need good people around, profice you should run, And I'm like, 924 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: I don't want to. And I really do think I 925 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,399 Speaker 1: don't want to live a life where I can't be like, well, 926 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 1: that's stupid, you know. 927 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 2: Like the other day on Twitter. 928 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: They show this older this clip of like man Trump 929 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: has really lost a lot of ground with young voters. 930 00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 1: He had this percentage of support in February and now 931 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: it's down this small percentage in December, and I was like, yeah, well, 932 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: young people were acting stupid, Like to me, that's an 933 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: objective fact, Like if these are the things that you 934 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: want and then you voted for, you thought this man 935 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: would this man would bring about the progressive ideals. That 936 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 1: you want because you saw enough tiktoks or whatever. The 937 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: fucking reason is not my business, but I like the ability. 938 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 2: To say that. 939 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: I don't think a politician should or would say something 940 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: like that, because it's probably not productive to talk about 941 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 1: a large swath of the potential voting. 942 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 2: Base as stupid everybody, you know. 943 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: But I find myself in those other moments that I 944 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: actually like certain politicians. Right it's when Obama says people 945 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: cleaning the guns and bibles. 946 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 2: I went, yes, that is what is happening right now. 947 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: No one wants to talk about it. Hillary Clinton, some 948 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: of this guy's voters are deplorable. 949 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 2: That is correct. 950 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 1: I'm watching them be deplorable and do deplorable things. So 951 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: how do you navigate that line of like, man, because 952 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: you know, we're friends, we talk. It's weird. Politics is 953 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 1: so weird because there's these there's these like these invisible 954 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 1: lines that like in real life, if you weren't running 955 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: for office, or you weren't trying to be a politician 956 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: to get a vote, it's like, oh, that's the reasonable 957 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: thing to do. 958 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 2: It's frustrating, and I see why you said that. 959 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: But as a politician, it's like you can never really 960 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 1: show that level of frustration what you are on with 961 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: with the people you hope to court as voters. 962 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:30,919 Speaker 4: That's true. 963 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 5: And I think for me, I'm sorry, I think for me, 964 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 5: what's frustrating about it on the outside looking in? 965 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 4: And and I know, uh, jail's on the lawd level. 966 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 5: When you look at Trump, Trump goes, I don't give 967 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 5: fuck about your normals right like like like he says 968 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 5: the ship out loud. If I don't like you, I'm 969 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 5: putting you on the list, like he verbally says these things, 970 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 5: and there's no outraged, there's no backlash like like for 971 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 5: for most normal politicians like about to say they have 972 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 5: to most of. 973 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 2: The he's written. 974 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 1: He's written the prominence based on doing the opposite of 975 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: everybody else. 976 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so with everybody else. 977 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 5: They have all these rules and regulations and you can't 978 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 5: be emotional, you can't do this, you can't piss these 979 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 5: people off. Whatever, and Trumps like, fuck it, I'm gonna 980 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 5: say it was on my chest. 981 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Well, I think I am trying to be 982 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 3: myself and knowing that my strength. You know, if I'm 983 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 3: trying to be one of twelve candidate who sounds the 984 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 3: same and within the bounds of normal politics. What I 985 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:34,240 Speaker 3: told people at a town hall, Wow, time is blurring. 986 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 3: What's today, Sunday, Sunday, Thursday. I believe it was Thursday, 987 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 3: might have been Wednesday, might have been Friday. It wasn't 988 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 3: Friday anyway. I told them, if you've been with Trump 989 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 3: for ten years, we've been doing this this dance as Democrats, 990 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 3: where the centrist Democrats say, you know, we need to 991 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 3: we need to find a middle ground. Most people want 992 00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 3: a middle ground, right. And what I say to that 993 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 3: is and once again with Joe Manchin as a good example, 994 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 3: even though he's no longer in Congress, Joe Mansion is 995 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 3: a perfect example where I say, if Joe Manchin is 996 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 3: the difference between Democrats controlling the Senate or not, please 997 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 3: give me Joe Manchin right, agreed, if we can get 998 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,959 Speaker 3: fifty six Democrats get rid of the filibuster, we can say, 999 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 3: Joe Manchin, you can come on board. You can be 1000 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 3: the sort of like moderate Republican that you kind of 1001 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 3: want to be right, but you can have to control 1002 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 3: different right. And we have to know the difference between 1003 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 3: if Joe Manchin is vote fifty and the other choice 1004 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,720 Speaker 3: is a Republican, Please give me Joe Manchin for fifty 1005 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 3: so we can control the power in the Senate. That 1006 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 3: is a value, a huge value in and of itself, 1007 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 3: because you see what they do when they have power. 1008 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 3: They stifle, They don't want government to operate. But as 1009 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 3: far as speaking truth in a plain spoken way, you know, 1010 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 3: I say what I really believe. Now, obviously I may 1011 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 3: phrase it differently in comedy, but I say, if you're 1012 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,280 Speaker 3: a Maga voter in twenty two twenty five, I don't 1013 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 3: consider you part of the middle ground that I need 1014 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 3: to seek. I consider to you on the fringe that 1015 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,399 Speaker 3: if this were a European country, you would be that 1016 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,799 Speaker 3: thirty percent marine La penn party in France that we 1017 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 3: get scared when you approach thirty five percent of the vote, 1018 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 3: where we say, everybody, let's get together. We have to 1019 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 3: stop this, this anti diversity, anti democracy party. And we 1020 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 3: aren't a normal functioning democracy anymore, unfortunately. And what I 1021 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 3: think and my message to the party, you know, as 1022 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 3: a as a rep for this county, but like I said, 1023 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 3: for this district, but like I said, also in the 1024 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 3: sense of all politics is local, but all politics is 1025 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 3: now national. Also we need somebody or some people. And 1026 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 3: I'm arguing not that I am the savior, but that 1027 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 3: I can be a voice that does this. We need 1028 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 3: people who can say, Okay, Bernie, love the passion, love 1029 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 3: the goals. Not the biggest fan of the all or 1030 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 3: nothing politics, Chuck Schumer, love the experience, Love that you're 1031 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 3: on the side with the good guys. Don't always love 1032 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 3: the half measures. Hey, everybody who's a Democrat, you know 1033 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 3: what we should be doing. Let's find the middle ground 1034 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 3: between kind of left and very left. Then we all 1035 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 3: get on board because if we do that, we make progress. 1036 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 3: And some people may be disillusioned. But you know what, Bernie, 1037 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 3: if you actually put your back into telling your supporters 1038 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 3: this is progress, Yes is progress, they will go, Okay, Bernie, 1039 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 3: we trust you, we value you, We know where you 1040 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,760 Speaker 3: want to get, and we know this is a step 1041 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 3: in that direction. But if it's ola gawks and Medicare 1042 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 3: for all and that's all you keep saying, the rallies 1043 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 3: will be big, the energy will be big, the legislation 1044 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 3: will be small. And I think we need to say 1045 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 3: and we need voices. And if I can be the 1046 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 3: regular voice, the guy who talks like regular people who 1047 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 3: people can listen to. Because I've shown it, I've grown 1048 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 3: a big fan base across the political spectrum, at least 1049 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 3: the center right to far left have all consumed what 1050 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 3: I do. We need to say, we need to come 1051 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 3: together as a family, as a party, and then come 1052 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,319 Speaker 3: up with a message that we all just say, fuck it, 1053 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 3: that's our message, that's our team. And then maybe those 1054 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 3: seventy million people who don't vote not the maggot. If 1055 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,280 Speaker 3: you're a ten year Trump guy, what am I? My breath, 1056 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,439 Speaker 3: my time, my energy cannot be used for you right now. 1057 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 3: If we can get eight million of those seventy million, 1058 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 3: we win, We win, and we crush because fifty two 1059 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:55,319 Speaker 3: percent of sixty percent of the races is a lot. Yeah. Absolutely, 1060 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 3: And that's my broad political approach is like, we need 1061 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 3: people who aren't going to be consumed with I want 1062 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 3: to even if you got to do it with tough love. 1063 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 3: How do we bring the Democratic Party into cohesion the 1064 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 3: way the Republican Party brings everybody to fucking heal? Now? 1065 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 1: What about local are you being? Are you like when 1066 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 1: people come up to you, are they more excited by 1067 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: that like broader national message or are they you know 1068 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,760 Speaker 1: are they just like, listen the fountain in the park 1069 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 1: on Seventh Street. It ain't been working right, and I 1070 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 1: just I'd be walking my dog and it's not getting 1071 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 1: taken care of jail, Like what what? What are they 1072 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 1: turned on by? 1073 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:46,240 Speaker 3: I think still when I was getting signatures, some people 1074 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 3: ask questions about issues, whether it was Israel or things 1075 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 3: like that. Okay, I you know, I gave my honest take. 1076 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 3: But a lot of people wanted just a fighter. They 1077 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,320 Speaker 3: were like, I'm tired of the book. Like you're a democrat, 1078 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 3: let's go. We need tough democrats. I like the fact 1079 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,839 Speaker 3: that you're a comedian. I like, we need something we 1080 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,239 Speaker 3: need we need people. 1081 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: Who will have you thought about rolling up on your 1082 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 1: opponents in the race, like Rocky yes Lang. 1083 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, that's it, Yes, yes I have Hey, Hey, 1084 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,239 Speaker 3: why don't you give me a shot to bake me 1085 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 3: blubber lang as a debate? 1086 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 4: Me bro. 1087 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 2: Showing up at colleges. 1088 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 1: Uh, just to have a debate like it was Charlie 1089 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:35,840 Speaker 1: Kirk or something. 1090 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 3: Uh. But but what I have seen in the in 1091 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,319 Speaker 3: the meetings that I've been to so far is that 1092 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,879 Speaker 3: I think especially the higher knowledge voters that show up. 1093 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 3: They know that it's a They know that you are 1094 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 3: running for national office. So of course there's how will 1095 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 3: you get more money to our district? How will you 1096 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,360 Speaker 3: do these things? And there are local issues that I 1097 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 3: am like briefed on, you know, and I go, so 1098 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,839 Speaker 3: come from the like I'm a renter, Like I could 1099 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 3: represent the renters. I think everybody else seems. 1100 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 2: To the rent is too damn huh. 1101 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,840 Speaker 1: Yes, it is okay that dude walks, so mom, Donnie 1102 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 1: could run dude. 1103 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 3: Right, But it's but there is like I think, it's 1104 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,719 Speaker 3: how can you affect national issues to help locally? So 1105 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 3: I think the people at least that I'm seeing understand 1106 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,720 Speaker 3: that it's not a you know, they understand the difference 1107 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 3: between what local politicians do and what what national politicians do. 1108 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 3: But national politicians can you know. It's the money. It's 1109 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,920 Speaker 3: how much money can you get for our district? Is 1110 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 3: like the blunt sort of local aspect of it. The 1111 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 3: other stuff is the kind of national The party is 1112 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 3: a little weaker, and I want to make the case 1113 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,439 Speaker 3: that we can send somebody who can who can who 1114 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 3: can do both, who can do both. 1115 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 1: Well, Look, man, we wish you nothing but luck obviously 1116 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 1: keep us updated on the progress. 1117 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 2: Obviously welcome. 1118 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 3: Ringlight really is hiding the bags under my eyes. I am. 1119 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 1: I just thought you put the ring light on because 1120 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: you're like, listen, I need these votes. 1121 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 2: Okay, the lighter I look the better in this district. 1122 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I went out, I met the grateful dead conservatives 1123 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,319 Speaker 1: and I need some help. Okay, I need to look 1124 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 1: less baby killer more of a diller. JL tell them 1125 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 1: where to go to donate and the support and to 1126 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 1: raise the word and all that stuff. 1127 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Yes, Uh, you go to j 1128 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 3: L for NJ dot com, just the word for but 1129 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 3: I think if you put the number four also, so 1130 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 3: j L four NJ dot com is information where you 1131 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 3: can sign up. There are donation links, but if you 1132 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 3: just want to go right to the donation link, it's uh, 1133 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 3: donate to the number two or the word t o 1134 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 3: donate to j L dot com. And every donation counts. 1135 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 3: And if you've got you know, Jersey people, if you 1136 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 3: happen to be in the district, you know, those count 1137 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 3: extra because then that's that's your local that's not just 1138 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 3: how much money, but that's like showing showing local support 1139 00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 3: as well. So this is going to be a two 1140 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 3: month sprint. It's going to be exhausting. But I just 1141 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 3: if I can just get in the conversation beyond hey, 1142 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 3: you're the comedian guy who's running. I really think I can. 1143 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 3: I can do some things like I don't. I wouldn't 1144 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 3: be asking people. I've always been conservative in my asks 1145 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 3: because I want to give people what they what they're 1146 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 3: paying for. And so I'm asking a little bit on 1147 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 3: faith to say, get me in the conversation. And I can, 1148 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 3: really I can shake things up because I'm a one 1149 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 3: of one in this in this contest, and and uh, 1150 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,479 Speaker 3: you know, I think it's I think it's worth it's worth, 1151 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 3: it's worth a shot. So I hope people will will 1152 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 3: take a chance. 1153 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 2: And I just donated right now we're talking. 1154 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 1: Good luck to you out there, brother, I'm rooting for you. 1155 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 3: Are watch your J L Gold watches on the way. 1156 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 2: I'm expecting some favors in the podcast. 1157 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 1: I need these podcasts regulations to kick in. 1158 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 2: Okay, we got too many people with MIC's out here. 1159 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 3: But I'm no tips, no tips for black guys who tip, 1160 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 3: no tax on black guy. 1161 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go. 1162 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm moving districts tonight and and like comedy wise, are 1163 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,800 Speaker 1: there still stand up dates for people to come see you? 1164 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:23,280 Speaker 2: As you know? 1165 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 3: And that's the thing I need to tell you. I 1166 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 3: I haven't. I emailed he was on vacation, but I 1167 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 3: emailed Charlotte that I said, thank you for giving me 1168 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 3: the spot. I just have to I can't do it. 1169 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, how can you do both? 1170 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 3: And I wanted to. And I'm paying several deposits in 1171 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 3: Toronto because of my late cancel for that with those. 1172 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 4: It's it. 1173 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 3: But it's just there's just no way, like if I 1174 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 3: if people are donating to me, people are taking time 1175 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 3: to donate, Like. 1176 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 1: Any you looking up and you went Toronto doing stand up? 1177 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 2: They might fill away? Yeah, I see Trump. 1178 00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 3: I love Toronto. I feel like I should be somewhere 1179 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 3: else straight and I love donuts in Canada. Thank you, 1180 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 3: thank you. Yeah. I just think it's uh, those are 1181 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 3: golden opportunities. Those are I need to start planning events 1182 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 3: and meeting guys and shaking hands and calling donors. And 1183 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 3: if people have already you know, given, I've already made 1184 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 3: some some nice amount for a nobody who hasn't made 1185 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 3: the hard ask of right and that's and if you 1186 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 3: the money is an act of faith, and I assume 1187 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 3: reward that. 1188 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 1: I assume you have to plan as if, hey, I'm 1189 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 1: in this thing to win it until like until you're 1190 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 1: not basically like right, like, so you can't be like, 1191 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe by the end of December, I 1192 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: can be doing gigss Like. 1193 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 2: No, I have. 1194 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 1: To plan as if this thing is going to keep 1195 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 1: progressing and now I'm gonna have to be in this fight. 1196 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: So I think that's a tremendous sacrifice to make. I 1197 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 1: know you would say, no, it's not. It's just my 1198 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,280 Speaker 1: comedy career and it was never that great. But I 1199 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: disagree because I feel like when it's it's like when 1200 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 1: you got something is and you got to give it 1201 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 1: up and you used to have an abundance. That's that 1202 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 1: means something as opposed to like if you were just like, 1203 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: I'll just get those gigs back and we know how 1204 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 1: how places hold grudges. 1205 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 3: Yeahline MSG next year. 1206 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, we know we got there. 1207 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,560 Speaker 1: There's there's comedy clubs that that didn't want to call 1208 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 1: you back. I think that one club only called you 1209 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 1: back because they heard you were running. 1210 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 2: They was like, we gotta get this guy off the ballot. 1211 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 1: We were he said some Manta trump ship one time, 1212 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 1: and we got to make sure he's not a voice. 1213 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 5: But look, and you know what, the jail jinks they'll 1214 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 5: lose the tape of the record where it won't he 1215 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 5: be right, Yo, won't count anyway. 1216 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 1: So the train, the train was gonna derail all the 1217 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,920 Speaker 1: way to don't even. You saved yourself headache, It got 1218 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 1: your cover, but you saved Lauren's life. All right, man, 1219 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 1: Well good luck, get out, get out there in the streets. 1220 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:53,919 Speaker 3: Man. 1221 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 2: Make sure y'all support Jail Coven. 1222 01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 1: Follow them on social media's jail comedy jail Van. 1223 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 2: You might be jail politics at some point. Uh, this 1224 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 2: thing keeps going And yeah, man, we're rooting for you, 1225 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 2: We support you, and we love you. 1226 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 3: Man. 1227 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 2: Until next time, I love you. 1228 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 4: I love you too. 1229 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 3: Bye.