WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Chris Rock 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:03.159 Of Course, Love Supreme is a production of I Heart Radio. 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:08.080 This classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora. 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:10.760 Ladies and gentlemen, this is Quest Love and you're checking 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:14.080 out another QLs classic. We're digging in the vaults for 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.520 all of your favorites of past episodes. This one one 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:21.239 of the funnier ones we've ever done. Chris Rock keeps 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:24.000 you in stitches, always keeps you educated. I hope you 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:47.360 enjoyed some grandmother call roll call, Whatur's love don't stop? 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:52.120 And I am shocked. Yeah, I'm with Chris Rock in 0:00:52.200 --> 0:01:01.640 the place where they shot to buy. So bringa road 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:05.920 called Quest Love Supreme. Yeah, y'all know we bawling, Yeah, 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:12.040 because I am fonte. Yeah. And it just be calling 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:19.800 some prema rogue, some prima, some prima rogue. Chrispon so funny. Yeah, 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:24.000 so what's next? Yeah, fring back that talk show? Yeah, 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:32.520 not x much. Some prima road called some prema so 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:37.800 frema road call. I'me on, hey Bill, Yeah, ain't that legit? Yeah? 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:41.559 Back with christ Love Supria. Ain't that some ship roll 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:50.400 frema roll call, some prima, some frema rogue. My Bill 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:56.000 is here? Yeah in radio land. Yeah, don't please. It's 0:01:56.000 --> 0:02:08.360 a solid man. Some sma roma roll him Yeah, happy 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:12.400 and nappy, Yeah, and I'm so happy. Damn I missed up. 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:23.680 Chris Rock here rogue, prima ro Chris Rocks my name, yeah, 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:27.200 and I got hot. Yeah, And I don't want to 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:37.600 farg and I'm not coming on rogue some prima rogue, 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:52.560 some frema rogue rod straight out. Oh yeah, ladies, And look, yeah, 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:56.760 Chris Rock is on the show. And I don't want 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.160 to waste a second or in any of whose else 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:02.120 has been on this show? Any other celebrities or my no, 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:07.440 you're not the first. I'm the We have the revolution. 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.840 Who has this been on the show? Without Prince? Though? 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.240 Right with that? Without Okay, you gotta say that, motherfucker. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:18.359 You can't just well yeah, I mean, you know, Relution, 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:20.000 that would have been amazing if we had him on 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:24.359 the show. That would have been something part of the 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.880 revolution or is it Prince and the revolution and the 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.440 revolution is a separate entity. So he was never in 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.680 the revolution? Okay, except in the movie Purple Rain, then 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.800 it was the kid in the Revolution? Okay, yes, please, 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:41.440 welcome to the Revolution. Exactly? Does that say that? No, 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:46.400 nos has done the show. Chef Gordon has done the show. 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:50.400 Ray Parker Jr. Has done the show. Rudolph's done this shower, 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:55.040 Q Tip Salons. Yea, yeah, okay, so yeah we we 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:59.600 we yes in this very room, in that very seed 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.840 well and I'm on every week and and Sugar Steve 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:08.440 is on every week. All right? Um? Yeah, because you 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:16.320 are so opinionated, really unsolicited, you saved you. I don't 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:20.320 want to waste a second about any part of your life. 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.080 So I wait, I just recently I didn't know you 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.160 were born in South Carolina. Yeah. I was born in 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:29.800 a little town called Andrews. Andrews right next to Georgetown. 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.599 When you drive in, it says the home of Chubby Checker. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.480 Uh so Chubby's not even from Philly. No, Chubby Checkers 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.360 from andrew South Carolina. And one of my goals in 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.720 life is before my mother dies, is to get them 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:51.160 to change that sign to home with Chris Rock. You 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.200 know you can make that happen, right, I mean it 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:57.560 hasn't happened yet. I mean you can great work or 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:03.279 good work. I haven't made the twist. So you're saying 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:08.960 that it would be tacky if you were too solicit 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.640 solicit them and ask them to I mean, you would 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:16.680 think by now they should I should I call the 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.159 township and be like, yo, y'all should really put Christmas? 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.520 You would think, I mean, I don't know, I haven't 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:23.960 you know what you have to do when you know. 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:27.720 But when you go on tour, we are you able 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:31.560 to play a place in Mattown. I'm able to play Charleston. 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.800 So yeah, it's like fifty miles away. Yeah, but is 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.880 that really okay? Have you given back to that hometown? 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.040 I mean, hey, I bought my mother's house. You gotta 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.279 do something there, like and then you know, the mayor 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.640 claiming Chris Rock Day and you're jokingly like, hey, you know, 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:52.360 be funny if you when you drive in it's my name, right. 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.960 I think you know what You're right, you can that's easy. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.440 I'll even even I'll even DJ the a couple of 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:05.400 basketball rims exactly Chris Rock parts. So how long did 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.440 you were just technically born there? And I was just 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:11.560 technically born there and then literally like the next weekend, 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:14.480 my parents came back to Brooklyn. There you go, that 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.080 is so New York. Everybody originates in Carolina. Yeah. I 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.800 think my mother just wanted her first child around her 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:24.240 parents pretty much, so she was just visiting South Carolina. Yeah, 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:26.320 I mean my parents, both of my parents are from 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.360 South Carolina, both from South Carolina, but they lived in 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:33.000 Brooklyn when I was you know, my whole I was born. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:37.840 I was raised in Brooklyn. So what was assuming that you? Yeah, 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:39.560 you were born in early sixties, right, I'm born in 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.919 sixty five. When I was born, Dr King was alive, 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:49.320 you know. Yes, I'm fifty one years old. Yeah. Still, 0:06:51.120 --> 0:07:03.080 money is the best lotion in the world. You ever 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.120 go to like watch rock and roll everyone. I was 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.400 like the rock and Roll of Fame one year. I 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.520 think I was putting in the Peppers or somebody. Anyway, 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:14.360 Smokey Robinson wasn't inducting the Miracle. So this is a 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:19.440 group he was in. He was in the group. He looked, 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.000 he looked. It was like he was inducting his parents, 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:31.480 like his grandparents. It was unbelievable, like, oh, yeah, Smokey 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:36.360 wrote the song its smoky Smokey. Yeah, I feel like 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:37.760 you a lot more shiny. So I didn't know if 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:39.800 it was like a moisture I was using that anyway. 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.920 I picked up on it that night and Rod Stewart 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:49.120 looks better than the guys in the faces, Like whoa 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.400 use actual moistrategy? Yeah, I mean I don't. I don't 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:59.200 know what the other commodores look like, but I don't 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:06.000 think as good as I'm gonna bet o good. So wait, 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:09.720 we're in Brooklyn. Uh, we're okay at Uh. Until I 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.960 was seven, we from time I was born to seven, 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.440 we're in Crown Heights, and then from seven to you 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.080 know whatever, twenty until god till I had my kids. 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:24.720 Until thirty something, I was in a bed sty. You 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.440 don't strike me as Brooklyn because whenever I think of Brooklyn, 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.760 especially like when I first started coming to New York, 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:34.720 like Brooklyn, every person had like the same intonation, like yo, 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.679 what happened like every day was up here? Yo? What's 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.920 that good? Like I've never seen you in camouflage, you know, 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.319 one leg were rolled up and no, no, I'm not 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:48.839 that cat. I'm there. I'm Marcy. I'm I'm Marcia. Is 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:52.400 not too far to Kada Howard and Saratoga, right, you 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.360 know bre voids where we played ball and you know, 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.199 so why is it that assuming that your parents you 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:03.320 know that ship? I was that guy I was corny 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:07.240 as a motherfucker's I couldn't get much cornier than me. 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.679 Uh So, why did you have to go to school? 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:15.040 Because that was what was going on back then, That's 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.920 what That's what progressive parents did, that's what. So the 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:22.959 education it was busting. Busting was a thing. So I 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.040 went to school out at this place called Garrison Beach 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:30.080 with poor white people. And where I was to school, 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.280 you know, it's it's seventy two, so I was a 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.480 second grade. Seventy one is first. So yeah, I got 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:40.360 off of bus and I saw niggas go home signs 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:44.960 in Brooklyn literal in Brooklyn. Everybody. You know, I got 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:49.559 called nigger every day and I had teachers say ship 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:53.480 to me and whatever. I don't even I was the 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:58.920 only black boy and there were three black girls, and 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:04.360 we were the first black kids at that school. Like hey, 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:08.319 I mean, I was fucking nerdy, motherfucker. So you know, 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.800 I was bullied pretty bad. But if I don't went 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:13.800 to a black school, I probably got bullied to wish 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.520 what was your nerdy? Look? I was just a little 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.599 you know, it's not even that your nerdy, it's just 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:22.360 when you're a kid when you're a boy. Especially, your 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:26.520 size determines so much ship, you know what I mean, 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:33.360 Like how fast? How tall are you? How fast are you? 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.839 How far can you throw a ball? Like, like your 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:41.319 physicality just determines where you're gonna be. So my physical 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:45.760 I was so tiny, motherfucker. So I just determined that 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.520 I was never going to be a cool kid. Like 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.080 the only way I was going to be a cool kid, 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.599 I would have to be batshit crazy, you know what 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.640 I mean? And I wasn't batshit crazy. The only little 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:00.959 cool kids were batshit crazy. So you didn't fall on 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.880 t V. Oh maybe you can play ball? And I was. 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.760 I mean I played everything, but I wasn't great at nothing, 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.000 you know what I mean? So I ended up like 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.760 that guy. I was that guy, which it's cool. How 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.000 many years did you go there to? Uh? I mean 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.640 I dropped out of school in the tenth grade. I 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:24.640 believe my d You went to the same school I 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.440 went to. I mean we're just talking about grade school. 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:29.760 Then I went to junior high, but I mean at 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.880 that same school in Vincent. I went to different you know, 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:37.880 so grade schools PS two seventy seven. Then you go 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:40.439 to Marine Park Junior High. Then I went to James 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:44.079 Madison for a year and a half, went to Boys 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.000 High for a half a year, went to a black 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:48.080 school for a minute, and then that, and you were 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:52.000 just like, well, you get to a point where you're like, Okay, 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:56.480 I'm in a shitty school, I have shitty grades. Is 0:11:56.640 --> 0:12:01.160 this diploma worth any more than a G E D? No? 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.319 Why am I wasting by time? So what do you do? 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:11.400 I quit school, got a g D. Like okay, yeah, 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:13.319 Like two months later, it was just like what the 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:20.880 what am I doing? Um? And you know, working dumb jobs? 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:28.760 You know stock boy, Uh, I worked with mentally handicap adults, 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:36.760 uh at like halfway houses like these houses that well 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.240 that sometimes they're in the house in jail or whatever. 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:43.040 So you're kind of like, you know, like you go 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.000 to the mall and you see somebody like people taking 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:50.760 artistic adults to a movie or whatever, Like I was 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.839 one of those people. You were a white two or 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.839 a white outfits yeah not or not, you know, just 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:00.199 wrangling how is that for you? Like did you have? 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.559 But you're a nice campaign and it was cool. I 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.200 was cool. I was cool. It's a good job. It's 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.800 a job, you know, my family. I'm from a working family. 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:14.120 Like rocks work, Rocks have jobs, and rocks have decent jobs. 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.920 So like doing that was one of those jobs, like 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.520 one of those rare jobs, always hiring because no one 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.280 who you know, it takes a special motherfucker to clean 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:28.120 ship off a grown man. Always hiring and does not 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:33.880 pay minimum wage, you can, like, I mean back then, 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:38.400 I probably made like seven or eight hour, remember just three, 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:44.559 so you're nine hour. He's a bad motherfucker, you know 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:48.880 what I mean. Like it, And everybody in my family 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:54.480 always figured out, like what shitty job that doesn't pay 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:58.520 minimum wage? That you know? So my mother worked there. 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:05.440 My aun't worked there, like what my mother she talked 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.199 them mentally handicapped for a while for a lot, you know, 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:13.839 in between pregnancies. And my father drove a truck for 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:19.200 the New York Daily News and Wrangle Brewery. Uh, my 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.800 father was this guy when I was a kid. You know, 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.400 they didn't have any black guys in the unions. So 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.440 my father was like always like the first guy they 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:31.600 would bring into the union. My father's like the Jackie 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:33.800 Robinson and that ship not because he was like this 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.240 great driver, which he was in no accidents, but they 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:41.160 knew he could take it. They knew he could like 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:45.400 get all day and get like a bag of piss 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:50.160 thrown at him, and like, nigga, what do you what 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:56.240 what we're talking the seventies, We're talking sixties and seventies. 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:05.160 H We weren't legally free, legally until okay, So when 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.920 you change a law, the ship doesn't really go into 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:14.480 effect the next day. You don't be like, hey, hey, 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:19.800 Apple changed the fucking chargers. Still motherfucker's four years later 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:24.680 with the old ass chargers. Still motherfucker's at iPods right now? 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.400 You know the fucking you know, you take the Triboro 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.720 Bridge to the airport, it hasn't been the Triboro Bridge 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.840 in almost twenty thirty years. It's the fucking rf cabrig 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.480 Like that's how long it takes ship to get implemented 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:42.120 from the time it's past. So just because it was 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.880 illegal to do certain ship to black people doesn't mean 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:54.320 that ship people literally haven't been like relax free. So 0:15:54.480 --> 0:16:06.240 like you like you could like generally assume you're gonna 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:10.280 go someplace today and no one's gonna right like spit 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:12.600 at you or say some fucked up shipped to you. 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.880 It still happens, Okay. So if you're preparing for life, 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:25.720 for like blue collar livelihood, Yeah, where in the world 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.440 is comedy coming? Like what I mean? I grew up 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.120 in a weird block. Everybody was funny on my block, 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.400 Decayed Street in Brooklyn. I don't know, It's just a weird, 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:41.240 weird block. Everybody was hysterical. My uncle's were hysterical too. 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.120 I just I don't know. I just gravitated to comedy. 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:48.520 I love music more, but I wasn't that good. So 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:52.920 I wasn't like a gifted rapper. I was a pretty 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:58.560 decent dj um because I was from that era. Like 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:02.840 we all everybody on my block, we would go see 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:06.840 Flash and we would like basically do whatever Flash did 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:11.480 the next day. So wait, you would go venture because 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:16.280 I've never heard of other boroughs like going to places 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:19.159 where they didn't like. Was that a risk? Yeah? But 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:22.840 who do you think they robbed? It wasn't Robin Bronks Niggers. 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:28.000 They was robbed Brooklyn and Queen's mind. But if you're coming, 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:32.359 if you're coming from if you're not from around, that 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:37.120 was dangerous, I guess, but you didn't care. They go Flash, 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:42.399 so it was worth that. I'm sorry they talking about 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.040 live in the YouTube where I could just look at 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:50.120 it in my bed. You don't understand that Flash theotore 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:56.399 DJ Flowers. These were superheroes and it was this was 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.919 just literally going to see the Hulk or Iron Man. 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:07.280 They were doing fucking super human feats. Okay, okay, this 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.399 was like what this ship spoke to us. This was 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:15.000 the fucking north Star, motherfucker. Okay at the beginning of 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:19.119 the hip hop with gangster tapes and fucking busy be 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.960 fucking battles and all that ship. Nigger, So you didn't 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.840 mean you just how did how did that trickle to you? 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.840 Because we just had cousins that have the tapes and 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:33.320 this guy's on the block or whatever, and you are 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:36.159 you hearing at No, not really my white school, but 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.240 when I got to a black school, yeah, it was you. 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.400 That's just was in the air. I always hung around 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.560 guys older than me too. That was a weird thing 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.760 about me. So my crew was like all five years 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.280 older than me. Yes, I can't even go where they 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.639 go a cruise. You couldn't really go. I mean it 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:57.320 wasn't like, you know, one of my secrets of show 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:03.600 business is I've mastered the art of like just blending 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:06.720 in a room with motherfucker's and not making a sound 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:10.320 and just let it. Motherfucker. This like the art of 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:14.600 having people be at ease around you. So when you're 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:19.240 around powerful motherfucker's and they just like, oh, he's okay, Okay, 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.960 you won't he doesn't rock the boat, like, yeah he 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:25.280 was here. Forgot he was here. Like I'm oh, I'm 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:27.320 the master of that ship. But I'm just saying I 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.600 started at a young age, and it's like skill that 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.440 eventually got better. So I could be around Eddie Murphy, 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:35.080 or I could be around Prince, or I could be 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.800 I could be around I know how to be around 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:43.320 motherfucker's without rocking the boat. But I mean, how did 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:50.639 you avoid the traffickings of gang activity because you were 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.639 a prime target to be I don't know. I mean, 0:19:53.640 --> 0:20:01.080 I guess I wasn't a gang for a minute. I remember, remember, no, no, 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:06.159 I remember, like like a bullshit, bullshit. I mean, you 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:11.560 got realized we lived in fucking brownstones near the projects. Okay, 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:15.440 so we're those guys you looking at your beautiful house. Yeah, 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:19.280 I mean we had you know, I lived in a Brownstone. 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:22.080 So here's the fuck up thing. When my dad died 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:29.040 in my dad died in nine Okay, so we my 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:32.160 dad died, we were in debt, we lost the house. Whatever. 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:36.400 The house was probably worth forty grand and that same 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:43.920 house is like a million dollars now, So yeah, it's crazy. 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:48.240 It's crazy if we had any money, if we could 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:53.040 have just held out for fucking five years, you and 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:56.720 the rest of the black people in major cities. But uh, 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:59.920 what was the question. We're avoiding the trappings of gang, 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:05.359 you know, if it's avoiding, I mean, it was just wide. 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.280 Where was my follow up? So yeah, I was in 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:11.200 a gang. I walked through the gauntlet and got beat 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.159 up and whatever, and you're in the gang, right, But 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:17.440 my follow up wasn't you know, I wasn't a gang 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.840 follow up guy, like a gang's like anything else. You 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:24.160 gotta follow up, You gotta be at the meeting, read 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:30.199 the pamphlet, you gotta you gotta watch all the episodes, whatever, whatever. 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:34.520 The follow up wasn't there. My follow up was comedy. 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:38.080 My follow up was music. That was my follow up, 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:42.200 like you never went back after the beat down? Else 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:44.479 I was I was just wasn't with the follow up. 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.959 I wasn't with the you know, it's like, Oh, we're 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:50.359 gonna go downtown, We're gonna go downtown Brooklyn, snatch chains, Sam. 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:59.399 I'm late to that meeting. I'm not fast enough to 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:02.480 be running these motherfucker's. So at what point did you 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:07.800 just option? I don't when people get into this, I 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:09.960 don't know. I'm just not. I refused to be one 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:13.159 of these Uh, comedy saved my life. Yeah, I refused 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:15.359 to be one of these fucking black guys. If it 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:19.440 wasn't for comedy, i'd be deader in jail. Unt was 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:24.639 one of the comedy I work for UPS. Motherfucker. That's what. Okay, 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:33.040 you least knowledge that comedy did change the comedy? Yes, 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:37.440 giving me. Hey, it's twelve o'clock on a fucking Wednesday 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:44.320 and I'm talking shit with you. That's rich. You know, 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:47.200 I don't, I don't have a boss. Whatever. You know. 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:51.600 That's rich but comedy. But but here's the thing. I 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:57.000 got two kids, I'm divorced, I live in an Okay, 0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:00.720 I live in a great place. Guess what if I 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.960 worked at UPS, I probably have two kids. I'd probably 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:09.080 be the moss my house wouldn't be this nice, but 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:11.320 I mean that it would be something I thought was nice. 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:17.040 You know what I mean I'd have I'd pretty much 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:21.600 have the same record collection. You know. I'd be probably 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:24.080 a little cheaper on what I download and whatever. I 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:28.879 wouldn't you know, I'd be more conscious of that for 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:31.440 an album or whatever, but I'd still have a ton 0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:36.399 of music and have a ton of comedy. So the 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:43.520 President United States, but you know this been doing. We're 0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:46.240 joined by the one only Chris Rock and we're talking 0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:50.440 about being satisfied in life and comedy not saving this 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.600 is not He's not going to make this an unsung movement. Yeah, 0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:57.280 and then comedy came. You know, UPS is always hiring. 0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.200 So if you have always hiring, I mean, and you 0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:02.920 know I got a bad girl now, I had a 0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:06.680 bad motherfucker if I was the Doups. She is maybe 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:11.040 not name right now, pronounce the last name right now, Magdalen. 0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:14.159 The fact that you had to look up to the 0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:17.760 right corner and think about I want to get it right, 0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:20.560 is that like some part is that a country and 0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:26.400 I'm she's Nigerian. Get out that I know evil. That's 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:31.600 like you're well, you know they're trying. Yeah I would, 0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:38.159 but i'd have one. It's always a fine chick at 0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:41.359 Banana Republic. So so I mean, at what point did 0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:43.440 you go from like, at what point did you go 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:46.680 from being the funny guy to like, oh, I'm gonna 0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:48.560 go to catch It was catch a rising start like 0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:50.320 the gold back then, or was it just like I 0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:53.040 didn't I was like, Okay, I've told this story before, 0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:55.480 but i'll tell it to you. I don't know the 0:24:55.520 --> 0:25:00.240 story online. Yes, I was literally online at Radio's City. 0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:04.920 It was February eleventh, nineteen eighty four, eight five, I 0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:08.560 forget eight four, and I was on line to get 0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:12.000 tickets for Eddie Murphy at Radio City. This is you know, 0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:15.800 people forget there was a world before ticket you know whatever. 0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:26.960 People used to stand online blocks. Yeah, purporting tour, Victory tour, 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:32.160 same thing. Um. Anyway, so I'm I'm on block four, 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:37.320 like Eddie Murphy tickets were ridiculous, and I'm just sitting 0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:40.520 there reading the paper because I'm assuming i gotta whatever 0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:47.359 a four hour wait wait easily. And while I'm reading 0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:52.280 the paper, because I was that nerdy motherfucker, I saw 0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:57.280 add for comedy clubs and it's one said catch right 0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.159 at the Star, and I was like, okay, let me 0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:04.359 go there. And I walked from Radio City to Catch 0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:08.119 I don't know, forty blocks or whatever the Fox. No, 0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:13.280 I never got the tickets, and uh, they were having 0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:16.600 audition night, so so I went from one line to another. 0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:20.000 So I went there and say that with thirty one 0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:24.680 to be comedians outside, today's audition night. So first I 0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:27.080 went to Comic Strip. It wasn't audition. I went to Catch, 0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:29.560 which is around a quarter and it was audition night. 0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:32.240 So I asked some guy, like what do you do? 0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.240 So well, guy comes out, We pick a number at 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:39.719 six o'clock and then you come back around ten o'clock 0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:44.239 or whatever, and you get to do five minutes if 0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:46.719 you're one of the seven. So you come back at eight, right, 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:52.400 And I got lucky number seven, and I came back 0:26:53.160 --> 0:27:00.080 called my boy Hammy and keV and me him, me, 0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:04.840 Kevin and Darren. I believe. And I auditioned that night. 0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:08.840 And I've never been in a comedy club. You free 0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:12.320 stout eventually freestop because I've never been in a comedy club. 0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:15.040 So I'm in this club. They sat us like in 0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:16.840 the back of the side and I watched it. I 0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:20.840 was literally watching my first non famous comedians. So this 0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:22.840 first time I've seen like a comedian not on it 0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:25.199 Tonight Show. Just like I'm like, wow, there's a lot 0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:27.879 of comedians there. So I watched these guys for about 0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.760 two hours and then you know, to three hours, and 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.440 like late in the night, it was my turn, and 0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:35.320 I went up and I did. I would say it 0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:40.840 was three minutes and I killed yeah, and the guy 0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:44.480 told me I passed the audition. This guy named Mike 0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.280 Egan told me I passed the audition. Was like the 0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:51.119 creative director of Catcherizing Star and I've been doing it 0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.399 ever since. If he didn't tell me, he said, you 0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:56.640 passed audition. You can work here any night you want. 0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:59.680 If he doesn't say that to me, I probably don't 0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.080 go back. It's probably like this thing I did. It 0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:05.720 was fun. Yeah, it was probably a one off, but 0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:10.399 him telling you, uh, just some dumb jokes. I remember 0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:14.040 I had one stupid joke Miles Davis is so black 0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.800 lighting the bugs follow him in the daytime. That was like, 0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:24.960 that was one of the joke alive. I thought you 0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:26.760 said when your home name was Hammy, Is that Hamm 0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:32.600 came from Yeah, Hammy, Hammy might be ten years older 0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.560 than me, but he's like this, like the old guy 0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:38.960 on the block. He would give you work like he 0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:42.280 owned the Brownstone, his parents dad, he had to Brownstone. 0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:44.800 He'd have me and my boy Darren like, Okay, you're 0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.760 gonna strip the wood, you know, underpay us to do 0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:51.720 fucking horrible jobs. And uh but he always had like 0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.600 comedy albums and ship like he was like that guy. 0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:57.440 He was like the black guy that had a rush album. 0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:03.920 It's like playing really influential. Yeah, there's a lot of drugs, 0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.240 a lot of drugs around, a lot of a lot 0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:09.360 of music, a lot of DJs on my block, a 0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:12.520 lot of I want to be comics but really want 0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:17.120 to be DJ. Who famous was in your proximity Maybe 0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:18.760 you didn't know at the time, Like was Lee Little 0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:21.080 Thomas across the street or no, you know lived right 0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.520 around the corner. We used to play football against um 0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:28.880 what's my man jam on it? Uh? Nucleus Nucleus Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:32.600 Cosmo Cosmo d Cosmo D lived literally I was on 0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:36.960 the cad of Cosmo deals on Bainbridge. Uh my first 0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:39.240 you know, I went you know before I dropped out, 0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.719 I was in a black school for a minute, right, 0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:47.800 boys and girls High. Fresh Gordon, you know, Fresh Fresh 0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:51.000 Gordon was in there. Fresh Gordon, who allegedly, you know 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:54.640 he made oh yeah, but allegedly he made the beat 0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:58.520 for Larry Love. Of course allegedly he did, because it's 0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.520 the same guy damn beat. And I refused to believe that. 0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:08.000 Gavin Christopher, he like it's his production. He and I 0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.600 argue about this on Facebook. I'm like, there's no way. 0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:13.440 And allegedly he did a couple of those Herbie love 0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:19.600 Bug beats for Salt and Pepper. Allegedly. No, I believe 0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:27.000 that Fresh Gordon made Especie. Yeah, so he was there. 0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.800 There was a group called the Dynamite Too, made a 0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:34.040 record call Can't Stop Till I reached the top, and um, 0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:38.360 what the fund is that other record? I forget the other. 0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.800 I used to like load crates for them and carry 0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.680 crates for them. They played the Roxy a couple of times. Uh. 0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:48.400 Freddie B and the Mighty Mike Masters. Oh you know 0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:51.640 Freddy B the Mighty Mike Masters. Yeah, like right across 0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:54.600 the street. One of my oldest friends. Literally, I lived 0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:58.080 at six nine Team Freddie be lived at six ten. Okay, 0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:02.360 so Freddie being a mighty Mike Masses in their Dwayne 0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:06.560 Pearl Washington's in my homeroom class, one of the greatest 0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:12.680 college basketball players of all time. Uh just died. Uh 0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:18.840 Prince markt D's around there. Uh a lot of cats, man, 0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:24.440 Like you know, lots of lots. I'm trying to say, 0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:28.400 who am I forgetting? Uh? I don't know. I mean, 0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.600 but I hung out too. I mean, you know, I 0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:33.200 went to the Fever a little bit. I was at 0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.480 the Latin Quo. I'm a big Latin quarter guy. Yeah, 0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:37.960 That's where I was going to go. So I was. 0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:41.400 I was in the Latin Quarter. No interviews complete without 0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:47.320 Latin Quarters Quarter fun house. Uh, what the fun is 0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.920 the one on fifty seventh Street. No, not Bentley's, Bentley's 0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:55.600 or some other shop. Oh my god, Bentley's Nigga. Bentley's 0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.920 was the ultimate R and B spot of all time? 0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:00.800 Did you have to dress R and B where they like? 0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:07.640 It was like it was like one of those places 0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:12.720 that's like funck hip hop. It was like fuck hip hop. 0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:18.560 This is Lelo Thomasville. This is because all the bad 0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.160 girls are a bit Ley's. You know, fine girl like 0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.920 Eddie Murphy hug out at Bentley's Eddie Murphy, Rick James, 0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.280 like after they left Studio fifty they go to Bitley's 0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.680 still a thing in the eighties. No, not really, but 0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:35.400 it was openly open. It was like technically open. Sometimes 0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.680 I'm trying to think the Red Parrot was the one 0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:43.160 on seven Street, which is part but Red Parrot was 0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:48.760 like the cross between Bentley's and the Latin Quarter. So 0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.560 it was like it was R and B and like 0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:54.360 a Paradise garage. Guy like no, no, no, that was 0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:56.720 too gay for me. That was like, I mean, I 0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:58.560 was young, like you know when you're young. It was 0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:00.400 not that I was homophobic. I was just like, what 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:05.080 is that? What is that? What is that? I see? Yeah, 0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:07.560 you're just like okay, you guys. Plus I hated the 0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:11.840 house music There's a Bad Girl. But the girls, my god, 0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:15.040 the girls that were at the Paralyzed Garage were just ridiculous. 0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:18.320 So I was a big figuring out when a club 0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:29.480 let out and being outside was let out and kind 0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:34.000 of act like you was, We're going to the thing, 0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.400 We're gonna get some pancakes and so and so like 0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:41.640 like he was there all that. Man. I hate the 0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:47.080 fact that in two thousand seventeen, I'm finally understanding with 0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:52.920 parking lot pimpen I let out, big parking lot, pimp, 0:33:55.280 --> 0:34:00.840 parking lot. Wait were you driving back? You know I 0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:05.200 had a Toyota Corolla. Uh my father had a seventies 0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:11.719 six uh light blue El Dorado. Occasionally then I would 0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:18.120 steal from him occasionally. You know, it wasn't that, you know, 0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.320 I wasn't you know, once crack came out, motherfucker's was 0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:25.759 driving Benzes and ship you were just done. But for 0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.719 a minute there, any car worked. Having a car in 0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:30.239 New York, they seemed like a privilege. I don't know. 0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:34.600 I mean when I was a black kid, I was 0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:39.800 never getting a cab. So and you know, the train 0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:43.320 was like, you know, it was before Julietta. Ship was crazy. 0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.800 So you know that ship. Plus I was just weird. 0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.160 I wanted to go to all the ship. I wasn't 0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.759 getting high, so I got out a lot like my 0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:56.239 boys would. You know, every Friday, everybody come from their 0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:59.399 shitty job or whatever the fuck, and we would talk 0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:02.040 about going and somewhere, and of course no one would 0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:04.640 ever make it anywhere. Because they've been based in cocaine. 0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:07.560 But I thought she meant weed. I'm sorry, he said hi. 0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:11.839 I was like, oh no, So you get off work, 0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:14.000 it's like anybody, Yeah, we're gonna go to the city. 0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:15.920 We're gonna go to the Deuce and you know, and 0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.799 six becomes okay, we're gonna leave at seven, and seven 0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:22.880 becomes nine and nine and then okay, we're gonna smoke 0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:26.600 for just a little while. Basically, you know whatever, we 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:30.680 became coke, which became crack. So that role you played 0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:34.239 in New Jack City was not I I didn't think 0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:35.239 you did. I wanna say you did. I was just 0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:36.680 meaning that it was you didn't have to go and 0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:38.920 find do some research. No, no, no, no, no. Everybody 0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:43.080 I was with was, you know, doing something. So because 0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:48.680 I didn't really you know, I drank and I had 0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:50.839 a high tolerance, so weird. I had a much higher 0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.000 tolerance than I do now because my father drove for 0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:57.640 Wrangel Brewery. So like one of his first jobs before 0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:00.840 the Daily knew, so you know, was a lot of 0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:04.200 giving here, drink this, drink this. When I was a kid, 0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:06.920 I would go to his job. This is how there 0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:09.279 wasn't even a thing called drunk driving. Back then, it 0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:12.480 was just acceptable. So they had they just had a 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:16.320 water fountain and a beer fountain that looked exactly like 0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:23.759 the water fowla what the brewery like dream. It was 0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:28.439 like it was like Homer and I don't even drink, yeah, 0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:33.200 like and they lift you up. And I remember my uncle, 0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:36.680 my uncle John was kind of alcoholic, and I just 0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:40.359 remember being cars with him going to South Carolina, him 0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:46.560 drinking the whole way, never never thinking twice about it, 0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:52.719 never feeling in danger at all. Sometimes we would have 0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:57.359 to this is a story, uh like whenever like like uh, 0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:01.440 like my grandfather died, or about old uncle died. This happens. 0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:05.160 It still happens today. So an old black person dies 0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:08.919 a guy, and what happens is you the good part 0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.759 of the family. Your job is to go get the 0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:15.839 guns before the bad part of the family comes. It's 0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:24.000 the Carolina trip. Sometimes sometimes it's so it's like everyone, 0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:29.319 he's like, oh, ship, granddaddy died. We gotta get down 0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:33.160 here and get them before Junior and Ronald get there, 0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:38.839 before your bad cousins get there. We gotta get these 0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:41.200 guns and throw them away. We can't let the guns 0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:47.200 get into the wrong hands. Yeah, that's real though. Side note, 0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:55.840 do you know no one here has done that? No, Steve, 0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:01.239 I mean sometimes the toy Jackson with Michael you didn't 0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:04.360 hear the story. God, okay, so did you have a 0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.800 porn get all the porn out of his house? Apparently? 0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.799 Steve is my porn guy. By the way, if I died, 0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:15.520 for if you die, would clear my Google search bar. 0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:20.280 Steve Steven knows where all the bodies are hidden. Um apparently, 0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:25.239 so when Michael Jackson passed and every family member is 0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:28.960 running to uh see her Sini in l A, she 0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:34.080 ran right to his apartment where the blackest apartment where 0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:37.240 I mean he had a condo and somewhere in Beverly 0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:42.480 Hills and knew where the stash of five million dollars 0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:46.239 cash was inside the wall, like Mike had a just 0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.480 in case it. But that's some real ship. Like I 0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:51.680 don't know any black person, do you have a just 0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:59.200 in case some ship happens? Nike makes me want to Uh, 0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.359 I just don't believe in it because it just makes 0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:09.400 people like want to rob you the world between having 0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:11.839 you know, work done at your house. That's I don't 0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:16.200 believe in safe you know, safe, just make somebody want 0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.880 to come back and rob, like, tie you up. I 0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:21.359 just know I know motherfucker's that have been tied up 0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:26.160 and beat the funk down, Like where is it? Where 0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:30.799 is that? I know? Yeah, I definitely know a couple 0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:34.080 of cats have been tied up and shipped themselves. Oh 0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:41.680 ship do we know? Celebrity cats almost and just like 0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:46.799 motherfucker just had you know, to say, ten thousand dollars 0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.200 worth of jewelry and a safe. But it's a safe, 0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:54.480 so everybody thinks there's so much ship in there. So 0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:56.480 you're like you put a rolex in there, and you're like, 0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.319 put your rolex in your drawer. Do not get us 0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:05.279 safe for your fucking rolex. Somebody is gonna break in 0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:08.000 your house and they're gonna think you have a lot more. 0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:21.920 All right, tell me a legendary Latin Quarter story, because wait, 0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:24.359 did you ever perform at the Latin Quarter? No? Never 0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:32.279 performed at the I mean, what do I have? It's 0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:35.600 so weird. It's like when I see Latifa kidn't play 0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:39.200 or light or like a lot have you have when 0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:40.840 he was alive, like a bunch of it. It's like 0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:43.759 we went to a high school together because we all 0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.799 know each other from the quarter. It's like a ton 0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.920 of us, you know, all the guys from x clan, 0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:54.520 like just a bunch of motherfucker's that just we all 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:59.359 went to this fucking same club. I remember, I don't 0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:01.960 know what's a good story, just being again, I just 0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:06.080 had this weird ability to blend in with motherfucker's. So 0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:10.360 I remember coming outside the quarter and Eric be playing 0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:15.440 me the beat from Follow the Leader just at this, 0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:17.960 sitting at Eric B's truck with a bunch of other 0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:23.040 young cats, just like and Eric be explaining to you 0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:26.799 what the fucking records is going to be, and you're 0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:29.959 so into the ship you knew you and Rob's gonna 0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:32.879 say this, and he's gonna say, like he that ship. 0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.360 I remember being outside. It's weird, just being outside the 0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:42.239 thing and Chuck playing the beat from uh Welcome to 0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.960 the Terror Dome. Wh Yeah, and just hearing that ship 0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:49.520 this in a truck, like just him opening up the 0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:52.360 back and playing that ship. I remember being in the 0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:57.400 Quarter when Rebel without a Pause came out, okay, and 0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:05.000 and watching Mellie mell get piste the funk off every 0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:07.200 time you heard that ship because he thought Chuck was 0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:10.680 taking his ship and that motherfucker would walk to the 0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:30.239 DJ booth and skipped the record. But who's gonna test them? 0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:33.960 That old on that motherfuckers like this, This is the 0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:40.600 real deal. Nellie mel and Scorpio. The motherfucker's always ran together, right, 0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:44.160 The brothers, I don't know, they're like, you know, it's 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:49.759 like like Bobby and Ralph Tresbant, always hiding together. It's 0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:56.239 like Mellie Mellon Scorpio. I remember, I remember being in 0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:59.960 a car. I remember again, I just had this weird billy. 0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:03.879 Do you remember I'm outside the hip hop story. I'm 0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:10.239 outside the the rock the Bells tour. Okay, so l 0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:13.600 L is at the garden and I'm just like I 0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:16.000 might have been, and I'm gonna get you sucker, Like 0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:19.320 I'm like, I'm so I'm outside the garden, you know, 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:26.759 saying one rib, trying to get in the garden. How 0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:28.600 do I get it? Like, you know, everybody thought they 0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:34.520 knew somebody right anyway, Mike Tyson gets me in, right, Mike, hey, 0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:39.720 you you you know Eddie whatever, I'm in the garden. 0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:44.160 Me and Mike Tyson like right, like whether you figure 0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:47.480 out the year, me and Mike Tyson and Naomi Campbell 0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:52.160 on top of chairs. The other thing too, is I 0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:55.640 always looked like you think I look young for my age. 0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:59.600 Now I looked so back then. Yeah, when I was twenty, 0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:02.560 I twelve. So it was it was like, hey, I 0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:05.920 let the kid head. It was a big that was 0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:09.040 a big part of it. So I remember, I remember 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:12.680 Scott le Roc had just died, so watching Carrass wont 0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:16.720 to do his first show at the Garden, like literally 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:22.359 the week Scott Larroc died. Uh it, yes, yes, yes, yes, 0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:27.080 watching Public Enemy for the first time, like unfurrel, What 0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:31.680 the funk this is? They're on early, like like you know, 0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:36.520 doing the first album? You know? Uh what then is it? 0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:41.400 You know? Yo bone Rush? The show you know is 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:44.920 a ton like that show, but they had the hot 0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:47.359 Jam at the time, so they do rubble without a pause. 0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:52.120 So it's me Mike and Naomi like that ship LL 0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:56.160 watching l L come out the radio. But um so 0:44:56.280 --> 0:45:03.120 we went to a party later and Naomi gave uh 0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:09.600 Scorpio her number while she's with Mike Tyson she was 0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:20.879 hanging and then okay, you know, you know Scorpio, Hey 0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:24.319 White Lines was out, motherfucker. It wasn't it wasn't dead, 0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.120 you know, I mean, like you know what I mean, 0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:30.399 like Grandmaster Flash furious that ship wasn't dead. That's Mike. 0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:33.680 Mike Tyson not gonna out, Mike, That's fucking Mike. This 0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:38.520 is before ears in jail, you know. Anyway, So he 0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:40.480 was a cool person because I always hear people like 0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:42.320 hanging out with Mike Tyson. But Mike Tyson is the 0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:45.560 best guy to hang out. Yeah. I used to love 0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:48.640 hanging out with Mike Tyson. Uh, Mike Tyson is very 0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:53.239 vulnerable too, like very I remember, I'm digressing, but I 0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:55.759 remember the last time I hung out with him. We're 0:45:55.880 --> 0:46:00.160 both in Okay, I'll get we're both in Jersey. How 0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:02.120 we're in Jersey, I don't know. We're like some house 0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:04.040 party or some ship. How the funk we're there, I 0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:08.080 don't know. Anyway, We're at the blackest party in the world. Okay, 0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:15.680 she is black in Jersey. Right, it's SIMI adult life 0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:23.520 rock kind of famous, right, Yeah, I'm anyway, So we're there. 0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:26.520 Me and Mike Tyson are kind of drunk, and we're 0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:30.800 both kind of like fun. We both called ourselves ugly 0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:33.439 and We're like, Uh, if we weren't rich, we could 0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:36.759 never get these girls. We're like, we're just depressed. But 0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:39.000 the funny thing that happened at night, it was it's 0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:42.560 the blackest party in the world. Keyshawn Johnson's there, a 0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:47.799 bunch of Jets and walks Bill Belichick, who's not even 0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:55.439 the coach of the Jets. The Bill Belichick walks into 0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:58.879 the blackest party in the test, looks at key Shot 0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:02.200 and maybe one other Jet and goes come on, gets 0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:04.600 them and gets like you nigga is going to bed. 0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:15.279 We got a game that's a record scratch. Belichicks in here. 0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:20.360 He was when he was like a coordinator. He's not 0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:24.840 even a head coach anyway. Naomi Campbell gave her number 0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:34.600 two scorpio. Mike Tyson realizes this, and this is there's 0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:38.040 a slow boil cut to me Mike Tyson and Naomi 0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:43.560 Campbell in a car going up Madison Avenue and Mike 0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:54.279 Tyson kicking Naomi Campbell out of a moving car. I 0:47:54.320 --> 0:48:01.040 don't even understand this. Use the original what's his foot 0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:04.560 with at his actual thing on his foot? I'm just like, yeah, 0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:08.399 I was back in the day, go back. I've seen 0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:12.960 a lot, so let's go back to let's go so 0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:17.680 comedy saved your life and was come on kid, stop 0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:22.719 saying you guys. All right, So this quest during Chris 0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:26.760 Rockin's I guess this weekend, we're talking about kicking benches 0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:31.960 out of the car. The baddest motherfucker of all time. 0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:36.320 Oh my god. Anyway, I remember after I did like 0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:39.319 Bring the Pain or something, I'm in l A. I'm 0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:43.399 at whatever fly Hotel and I see Nailmi Campbells. She's 0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:45.400 like Chris, Chris. I was like, finally I'm going to 0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:54.000 get this pussy whatever. I'm all over the play with 0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:56.560 some hosted MTV A. Well, it's like like back when 0:48:56.600 --> 0:49:03.759 I was Drake, like like I was that. Yeah. I 0:49:03.880 --> 0:49:05.840 was like, yeah, what's up? And she's like, do you 0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:15.160 have Eddie's number? I can't get this. She saw you 0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:16.320 when you come up. She was like, no, I know 0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:19.520 he really yeah, yeah, we both saw each other on 0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:22.000 to come up. So there you go. All right, you 0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:29.879 never got it. Speaking of Eddie, speaking of the Black Pack, 0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:31.680 I mean, I mean, I know there's a myth of 0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:35.120 the Black Pack is like l a wrap, It's just Dray. 0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:41.360 It's just Dray and it's just Stray. Every this is 0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:44.480 Dray and iced tea and everything else, everything else has 0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:50.120 a Dray tentacle alight. It was like, literally, who's Dray 0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:53.720 and so Eddie Murphy. So the black pack is Eddie Murphy. 0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:59.200 Every literally him, how dost him? I met Eddie at 0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:02.839 the Comic Strip in New York. I was there one night. 0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:04.840 I wasn't even on the schedule. I was just like 0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:07.759 hanging out watching comedians. I was gonna stack chairs later, 0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:11.200 like just earned my way on the stage. And he 0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:13.279 came in and it was really Eddie Murphy was not 0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:17.439 Dr Doolo Murphy. It's like leather suit Like people don't 0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:22.239 realize Eddie Murphy used to wear leather suits like just 0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:24.759 on a tooth. Like this motherfucker was eldest or some ship. 0:50:24.920 --> 0:50:27.719 This ship was like he was like thor he was 0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:29.640 like Iron Man and mother fucking we used to walk 0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:36.640 around with boots and fucking leather suits or or zebra 0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:42.560 skins like crazy. Like anyway, so he comes in. You 0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:44.600 know I was walking, you know, you look outside just 0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:48.680 like five pushes and he's got the real entourage and 0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:52.279 he's got the baddest girl you ever seed and you're like, 0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:56.840 god damn it, he's got shades on in the fucking inside. 0:50:57.680 --> 0:50:59.880 And they didn't have any black comics on that night, 0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:03.400 and he asked the owner of the club, like are 0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:06.520 the black guys where? It's like, oh, we have them 0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:12.399 right here. That literally it's literally how it went out. 0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:16.799 And um I went on. You know, I guess I'd 0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:20.359 been doing it maybe three years at that point something 0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:25.680 like that, and I killed. I ripped it and like, 0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:28.640 are you planning or you just free st that? Like whatever? 0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:30.719 It's like, what do you plan? Like I plan a 0:51:30.800 --> 0:51:34.240 DJ gig? Like you really weird. I saw you this weekend. 0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:36.080 You de I was like, oh, ship, this is all 0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:40.960 planned out. You got to plant it? Um did I plan? 0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:42.840 I didn't plan on meeting Eddie Murphy that night? I 0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:45.839 mean I planned on working on the set in front 0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:52.479 of five people. Are you planning one day? Like Richard 0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:54.000 Pryor might walk in and I want to be on 0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:56.680 my best or but even then, like do you want 0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:58.759 to kill in front of them? Like what if you're 0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:00.839 like a threat? Like save some guy that you see 0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:04.640 now is like red hot at eighteen? Are you saying 0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:07.480 to yourself like are you looking at Michael Jay like 0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:10.480 might be a threat or oh I can help him out. 0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:13.680 I'm twenty years older than Michael Jay, So I mean 0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:20.040 we're always going to appeal to different people and put away. 0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:23.040 If if I thought like a guy like Michael Jay 0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:27.600 wasn't on the path to success, yes, I would try 0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:29.600 to help. Say hey, I did it with Leslie Jones, 0:52:29.880 --> 0:52:34.080 Like hey, Lauren, you should look at this person I've 0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:36.080 done in a J B school. I got his job 0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:37.759 over there. You're the reason we have two black women, 0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:40.840 thank you, you know. I mean, it's a bunch of 0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:43.720 there's a bunch of people far too many to fucking 0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:46.680 you know, and he's done the same. I feel like 0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:50.279 you and him genuinely want to help. But like, Okay, 0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:56.400 there's a certain MC I won't name that I know 0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:05.520 will associate himself with someone with lesser swag. It might 0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:08.520 have a little street credibility going on that has less 0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:14.160 lesser swag, But he will never stand to someone that's 0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:19.520 a real threat to him and outsign him. But he'll choose, 0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:24.400 like he's very choosy on who he picks to endorse 0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:30.719 and take their cool from, because you know, it ups 0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:33.759 his street credit. But won't really co sign or get 0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:36.600 in the ring with someone that could really I mean 0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:41.600 post white, unless a person is a celebrity. Young cats 0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:44.160 are young cats, and I don't know. I try to 0:53:44.239 --> 0:53:47.080 help him, to try to you know, Eddie was cool 0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:49.960 to me. Keenan was cool to me. Uh. You know, 0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:52.600 there was a bunch of guys that would talk to 0:53:52.680 --> 0:53:55.000 me when they didn't have to talk to me. So 0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:57.000 I try to you know, if somebody asked me a question, 0:53:57.120 --> 0:54:00.279 Trevor Noah calls me or Michael or whatever. You know, 0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:04.560 I try to drop knowledge as far as peers, I mean, 0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:13.000 like Dave. I love Dave, and I mean, technically, are 0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:16.800 you do you consider ten years older than Dave? So 0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:18.960 what's what's the generation? And comedians you have to be 0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:20.960 ten years? I don't know what it is. I mean, 0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:25.080 on paper, we should probably hate each other because we're 0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:28.560 you know, p funking Earth went in fire. We're always 0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:32.200 gonna be you know what I mean. Uh, Eddie and 0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:39.080 Prior weren't boys. Richard and Prior weren't boys. Uh. I 0:54:39.080 --> 0:54:41.719 don't know. I've made a conscious decision that I'm gonna 0:54:41.840 --> 0:54:46.840 love Dave. They did. I'm nice together, but they weren't. 0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:51.120 They weren't boys. You know, I don't I don't want 0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:54.160 to speak too much out of whatever, but they weren't boys. Okay. 0:54:56.040 --> 0:54:58.239 I was never in Eddie's houses, so Richard, you know, 0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:00.359 eating chicken or no chef, you know what I mean. 0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:02.799 And I was like, you know, I mean, I never 0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:05.879 saw them hang out it stuff on a movie set, 0:55:06.120 --> 0:55:08.560 you know what I mean. They acknowledge each other, and 0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:09.880 you know what I mean, Like this, don't you know 0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:11.680 they're not at a fight together and none of that 0:55:11.760 --> 0:55:14.800 ship they're not. They acknowledged each other. And Richard was 0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:18.480 older than Eddie, so does that ship. But you know, 0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:23.560 I love Dave. I mean, Dave is, for my money, 0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:27.120 the best in the world. Really. It's like the guy 0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:29.759 that like, I'm like, sometimes I see him and I 0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:32.120 gotta wrap my mind around what the funk he just did. 0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:35.879 I'm like, God, damn it, how do you do that ship? Yeah? 0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:38.960 So I don't know, I don't know. I don't. I'm 0:55:40.160 --> 0:55:43.160 it's too much fun when you play with people, you 0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:45.600 know what I mean, It's too much fun to have 0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:48.719 like it's lonely being good, you know what I mean. 0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:51.840 So if you see somebody else good it's you know, 0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:53.800 what I mean is it is it even harder to 0:55:53.880 --> 0:55:56.840 be friends with someone that's not as good, that doesn't 0:55:56.880 --> 0:56:01.560 know it yet. I don't do bad talent. I don't 0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:05.040 I don't know. I don't hang out with untalented people. 0:56:05.560 --> 0:56:09.480 I don't fuck intalented people I don't like. Because I 0:56:09.600 --> 0:56:12.799 sit next to untalented people I don't like. I always think, uh, 0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:18.520 you know, you know, shitty artistry is sexually transmitted, So 0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:25.200 I don't funk with that ship. Dave said, none of 0:56:25.239 --> 0:56:27.920 the things said that you're a critic, So it's like 0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:33.799 I'm tough. He's tough too, Uh, but you're I mean, 0:56:34.000 --> 0:56:37.600 what makes you comfortable enough? I mean, I respect the 0:56:37.680 --> 0:56:41.239 fact that you will just like a worth. I mean 0:56:41.360 --> 0:56:44.120 some guys that I think aren't that good, but I 0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:46.520 like their work ethic. And then there's some guys. There's 0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:48.879 some guys I think are great. I'm not gonna say names. 0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:52.320 I think are hysterical and hate their work ethic, and 0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:54.920 they piss me off. It's like, oh, this smellfucker's wasting 0:56:56.520 --> 0:57:01.879 ridiculous talent. Oh my boy, Okay, you know I'm going off. 0:57:03.600 --> 0:57:05.880 There's a few of them. Oh I wish I was 0:57:05.920 --> 0:57:09.040 as funny as this guy or this guy. Oh you're 0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:12.560 talking about comedy just in comedy. Yeah yeah, it's like 0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:17.320 like I ain't the funniest comedian. Uh. You know, there's 0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.600 some funny motherfucker's that just don't work on their ship 0:57:21.920 --> 0:57:24.400 that don't you know, how does that happen? Treat it 0:57:24.440 --> 0:57:27.440 specially because sometimes there's still some person that's doing an 0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:31.040 o J joke that's like you know, yeah, I mean 0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:33.480 sometimes it's happen. You see it in sports sometimes that 0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:37.040 when the game comes too easy to you. So when 0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:39.360 the game comes too easy to you, it's hard to like, 0:57:39.560 --> 0:57:42.120 it's hard to be Lebron. It's hard to be physically 0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:46.680 better than everybody and practice more, you know what I mean, 0:57:46.880 --> 0:57:50.600 that's fucking hard. Well, you're also a guy who you 0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:54.280 let me. I'm sacked that you want to work on 0:57:54.400 --> 0:58:00.400 your material and unorthodox places that aren't easy for you. 0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:04.600 He told me to go to certain clubs in Florida 0:58:05.680 --> 0:58:08.440 that you know, isn't your audience or whatever, and you 0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:10.520 feel like, Okay, well if I'm funny here, then I 0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:14.280 know it's good for my special weeks. Yeah I liked it. Well, 0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:18.360 I'm you know, I'm I'm old. I remember Muhammad Ali, 0:58:19.680 --> 0:58:23.120 and you know he would go somewhere, they go up 0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:25.600 in the mountains and they would train, and training was 0:58:25.680 --> 0:58:28.960 eight weeks, and for eight weeks, if he lived a 0:58:29.080 --> 0:58:32.880 certain way, he could beat anybody in the whole world. 0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:37.280 So I try to like adapt that thing, like, Okay, 0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:41.160 let's get away, let's get away from all the distractions. 0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:44.560 And you know, okay, maybe it's not eight weeks, but 0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:47.320 it's two weeks or three weeks, so you'll go to 0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:51.360 a comedy club in Columbus, Ohio, or trying to find 0:58:51.400 --> 0:58:54.920 a spot in Nashville right now, like something. So you 0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:56.800 are you saying like I want to pick the places 0:58:56.880 --> 0:58:59.440 where no one would ever find me funny, not even 0:58:59.680 --> 0:59:01.760 not find me funny. I'm just trying to get away, 0:59:01.960 --> 0:59:07.360 like really get away from my comfort zone, so genuine 0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:10.680 laugh and not like the question. When you're around your friends, 0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:13.400 you don't even have to complete sentences, you don't even 0:59:13.440 --> 0:59:17.120 have to finish words. When you're not around your people, 0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:20.440 now you have to enunciate, you know what I mean. 0:59:21.160 --> 0:59:23.360 But the thing is, okay, now, when you told me 0:59:23.440 --> 0:59:28.640 that you would go to West Palm sometimes, yeah, but 0:59:28.840 --> 0:59:31.040 how do you know that they're just not blinded by 0:59:31.520 --> 0:59:36.280 your celebrity, because comedy is this not that common. Celebrity 0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:43.640 only works for six eight minutes and then people you deal. 0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:48.240 When you're a musician, you know, no disrespect, but I'll 0:59:48.280 --> 0:59:51.600 disrespect him. I'll go a funk. I look at these 0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:56.480 motherfucker's going on stage singing songs they wrote thirty years ago, 0:59:56.640 --> 0:59:59.360 twenty years ago, five years ago, whatever the funk that 0:59:59.440 --> 1:00:06.160 they've sung the hundred times. That ship's easy because it's proven. 1:00:06.640 --> 1:00:10.720 The audience knows it now. I gotta do what I 1:00:11.080 --> 1:00:13.960 what a comedian has to do is literally give people 1:00:14.120 --> 1:00:19.840 brand new hit records every night, like an hour and 1:00:20.000 --> 1:00:24.160 twenty minutes of brand new hits they've never heard before. 1:00:25.120 --> 1:00:29.320 What the funk? So, no audience is faking that love? Right? 1:00:29.960 --> 1:00:31.480 You don't want it from a musician, but you want 1:00:31.480 --> 1:00:33.200 it from a comedian. You want new ship, you do 1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:36.600 not want old. Hey, I can watch Delirious. I've watched 1:00:36.720 --> 1:00:40.840 I've probably watched Delirious four times. But if I went 1:00:40.880 --> 1:00:44.520 and saw Eddie Murphy lived, be mad as a motherfucker 1:00:44.600 --> 1:00:47.800 if he did jokes from Delirious. When people go see 1:00:47.840 --> 1:00:51.720 live comedy, they want live comedy. They almost want to 1:00:51.760 --> 1:00:53.880 feel like you got this ship. You thought this ship 1:00:54.000 --> 1:00:56.160 up tonight, which is why Dave makes it so hard 1:00:56.200 --> 1:00:57.960 for you to take the shows. And he has all 1:00:57.960 --> 1:01:00.960 these different assets that which is dope because pass it around. 1:01:01.160 --> 1:01:04.560 And yeah, I still say you should do your greatest 1:01:04.640 --> 1:01:10.280 hit story, like yeah, that sh it's done. I did it. 1:01:10.360 --> 1:01:12.240 I did it, I did it. I mean, you know, 1:01:12.280 --> 1:01:14.640 it's weird before all this, you know, I don't really 1:01:14.680 --> 1:01:17.520 want to talk about, but before all this Cosby ship happened, 1:01:18.000 --> 1:01:19.600 I definitely was going to do a part in the 1:01:19.720 --> 1:01:22.360 tour where I did like a long Cosby bit. But 1:01:22.680 --> 1:01:26.600 I can't do that ship now because it's just, you know, 1:01:27.680 --> 1:01:32.320 it's too hot, his spots too hot. And you know 1:01:32.560 --> 1:01:34.880 didn't have favorite. Is that why it wouldn't have is 1:01:34.920 --> 1:01:38.560 that it was like favorite, not Favorite, I mean, not 1:01:38.720 --> 1:01:40.880 talking about him, but doing I was gonna I was 1:01:40.920 --> 1:01:43.200 gonna do one. I suggested that I was going to 1:01:43.480 --> 1:01:48.000 see that the dentist bid or the whole Russell whom 1:01:48.080 --> 1:01:51.440 up my brother Russell man, you know what I mean, 1:01:51.520 --> 1:01:53.160 Like that would be so cool to do one of 1:01:53.200 --> 1:01:57.439 his bits, but I'm not gonna. You know, you can't. 1:01:57.760 --> 1:02:01.520 People can't separate. I don't think you do, Cosby, but 1:02:01.680 --> 1:02:05.320 I think you should do something I think I might do, 1:02:05.560 --> 1:02:08.080 like some Rotney jokes or something I don't know, but 1:02:08.360 --> 1:02:12.240 um like danger Danger Philly awesome. Yeah, I mean, I 1:02:12.400 --> 1:02:14.680 just I wouldn't mind doing it. You don't like you 1:02:14.760 --> 1:02:17.040 go to every rap show there's a sucking the Tupac 1:02:17.080 --> 1:02:20.640 Biggie tribute. It's like, that's what I'm saying. It's like, okay, 1:02:20.680 --> 1:02:24.160 in a comedy show, you got your fucking Rodney Cosby. 1:02:26.800 --> 1:02:32.280 You Yeah, right, dude, that's what I want you to 1:02:32.320 --> 1:02:34.720 do this. I still got to right a fucking hour 1:02:34.800 --> 1:02:37.120 and a half of my own ship. But that I'm 1:02:37.160 --> 1:02:40.040 just saying a part of the show. You know, maybe 1:02:40.080 --> 1:02:42.000 that's my own car, Maybe that's my uncle. That's a 1:02:42.760 --> 1:02:46.120 a fucking great, safe own car. Yes, I believe that. 1:02:47.000 --> 1:02:49.000 I think you should do that. Can't do Cosby. So 1:02:49.960 --> 1:02:53.200 let's you know, let's not talk. You're from Philly, and uh, 1:02:54.400 --> 1:02:58.720 I'm not bringing up not at all. So you you 1:02:58.800 --> 1:03:00.600 said you killed in front of the like, did you 1:03:00.680 --> 1:03:02.640 know he was watching at the time. Yeah, I mean 1:03:02.800 --> 1:03:06.080 they brought me up. I met him and I went 1:03:06.200 --> 1:03:10.000 up and I did my thing and I heard And 1:03:11.360 --> 1:03:14.160 what did you feel inside when you hear that? You 1:03:14.240 --> 1:03:17.880 know I was. I was a cocky young kid. I was. 1:03:18.480 --> 1:03:20.400 You weren't humble, like, oh gosh to meet you, sir. 1:03:20.720 --> 1:03:22.240 I mean I was humbled to meet him. I mean, 1:03:22.360 --> 1:03:25.400 obviously he was my fucking idol. You know what I mean. 1:03:25.760 --> 1:03:27.600 He's not even that much old. He's like five years 1:03:27.600 --> 1:03:30.560 older than me, but uh but he might as well 1:03:30.680 --> 1:03:35.360 be five years older. Men, Yeah, for what have you done? 1:03:36.160 --> 1:03:39.840 He was a lot older than me mature mature wise anyway. 1:03:40.680 --> 1:03:44.439 And uh but you know, I mean put his away. 1:03:44.600 --> 1:03:48.360 I was so cocky as a kid. I'm not you 1:03:48.440 --> 1:03:50.840 know me, I'm not that guy now. But when I 1:03:50.920 --> 1:03:54.080 was a kid, I listened to his first album, the 1:03:54.160 --> 1:03:57.160 one at the comic strip with the you know, booginet whatever, 1:03:57.480 --> 1:03:59.200 and I just thought, I'm I could do this ship 1:03:59.680 --> 1:04:02.720 like I like it. And I loved everything he did 1:04:04.120 --> 1:04:06.760 and didn't like that album. So you still feel that 1:04:06.880 --> 1:04:09.520 way now? I like it more is that his Yobam 1:04:09.560 --> 1:04:12.720 Russ show. That's funny because I like that record better 1:04:12.760 --> 1:04:17.120 than like Delirious Delirious. I was allowed to watch Delirious, 1:04:17.200 --> 1:04:21.240 so all my Delirious. I know Delirious based on people 1:04:21.360 --> 1:04:26.120 doing it in school and basically Will Smith. I just realized, 1:04:26.200 --> 1:04:30.920 like for longest, Delirious was never available on DVD or 1:04:31.120 --> 1:04:33.960 any format, like when we were touring in the nineties, 1:04:34.000 --> 1:04:37.440 So when it finally came out on like DVD like 1:04:37.640 --> 1:04:42.440 maybe like ninety eight whatever, then I finally realized, like, 1:04:42.480 --> 1:04:46.720 oh god, Will Smith has just been doing Delirious on 1:04:46.840 --> 1:04:50.080 the Fresh Prince of bel Air, Like I don't realize 1:04:50.120 --> 1:04:54.000 that well, I mean his it's attempted. I mean, of 1:04:54.120 --> 1:04:57.840 course you know that Will Smith studied everything about and 1:04:57.920 --> 1:05:03.200 then may that his person that uh yeah, delarious is 1:05:03.320 --> 1:05:08.920 fucking yeah. I wish I could the ice cream. It's 1:05:08.960 --> 1:05:13.120 like he should make the ice cream. Man. Imagine being 1:05:15.560 --> 1:05:22.000 the Imagine being in a coma during the whole duration 1:05:22.360 --> 1:05:27.760 of Michael Jackson's meteoric rise between like one to like 1:05:28.040 --> 1:05:30.040 let's let's give him some bad years to eighty nine, 1:05:30.120 --> 1:05:32.520 Like that was me blood on the dance floor. That's 1:05:32.520 --> 1:05:35.040 what you're talking. Like if I were in a coma 1:05:35.440 --> 1:05:37.360 right at the tail end of Off the Wall and 1:05:37.480 --> 1:05:41.360 I woke up like maybe at the end of Dangerous, 1:05:41.920 --> 1:05:46.880 like I just everything anything. Eddie Murphy related was just 1:05:47.000 --> 1:05:49.760 taken away from me as not not even like coming 1:05:49.800 --> 1:05:52.160 to America. So you said that he took you to 1:05:52.480 --> 1:05:55.120 l A like at what point? Literally? So we hung 1:05:55.160 --> 1:05:59.080 out that night a little bit. I went up the boat. 1:05:59.120 --> 1:06:02.320 I was at Bubble Hill, Like, what was that ship? Like? 1:06:02.440 --> 1:06:05.160 Seeing at the eight How you were seventeen at this time? 1:06:05.800 --> 1:06:12.240 Front nineteen named the Bubble Hill so weird. I live 1:06:13.040 --> 1:06:20.480 in that neighborhood now, it's so crazy, so crazy. Uh yeah, 1:06:20.640 --> 1:06:23.000 hung out. We went to see what he's all right, 1:06:23.000 --> 1:06:27.520 We're going to movies tomorrow, meet usaid whatever Broadway and 1:06:28.040 --> 1:06:31.880 seventy ninth or whatever the funk it was. We all 1:06:32.000 --> 1:06:34.240 and you know, and I'm out there waiting. The next thing, 1:06:34.320 --> 1:06:37.479 you know, there's whatever, three limos, four limos of guys 1:06:37.560 --> 1:06:41.680 and ship and chicks, and we saw she's gotta have it. 1:06:42.200 --> 1:06:44.680 Spike Lee was selling T shirts outside the theaters. First 1:06:44.720 --> 1:06:51.360 time I met Spike what uh oh my god. We're 1:06:51.400 --> 1:06:52.760 talking in the movie the whole time. I can only 1:06:52.800 --> 1:06:56.720 imagine no, no, no special screening for him, No, no, 1:06:56.880 --> 1:06:58.960 no no. I was just like, it's like, there's a 1:06:59.040 --> 1:07:02.560 black guy making that made his own movie. Let's go 1:07:02.680 --> 1:07:07.360 see it and we saw she's gotta have it hung 1:07:07.400 --> 1:07:11.360 out and you know he's asking me about you know, 1:07:11.600 --> 1:07:13.840 I was. I guess I was like his liaison to 1:07:13.960 --> 1:07:16.760 the streets, to the club to you know, he was 1:07:17.120 --> 1:07:19.200 thinking about touring and ship. So it's like a lot 1:07:19.280 --> 1:07:21.680 of like is so and so still there. It was 1:07:21.760 --> 1:07:24.640 like a lot of that ship him asking me about 1:07:24.760 --> 1:07:27.880 comedians and ship and uh, he's like, hey, we're going 1:07:27.880 --> 1:07:31.240 to l A tomorrow. You want to hang Yeah? What then? 1:07:31.360 --> 1:07:34.200 Why that means get on the plane or do they 1:07:34.440 --> 1:07:36.280 did you send you a pen? He goes, No, fruity, 1:07:36.400 --> 1:07:40.000 make sure Chris Rock's gotta ticket. And it's like, fruity, 1:07:40.000 --> 1:07:42.760 he gets Chris Rock a ticket. I'm there and it's 1:07:44.120 --> 1:07:46.520 this is your first trip, it's my first plane ride. 1:07:49.200 --> 1:07:50.720 Was it in mind? I mean, was it a mind 1:07:50.960 --> 1:07:52.880 for you? It was a mind funk? A little bit. 1:07:53.600 --> 1:07:57.520 It was a mind fuck. Uh, it was a little 1:07:57.520 --> 1:07:59.400 bit of a mind funck without the l A state, 1:07:59.480 --> 1:08:02.040 up state, up first hotels, all that ship met our 1:08:02.080 --> 1:08:09.920 CITYO met Robert Towson met Keenan met Damon met you know, 1:08:11.280 --> 1:08:15.280 you know all the other Waynes brothers, Sean and Marlin. Uh. 1:08:17.240 --> 1:08:19.280 Time everybody's in l A. Did you not know them 1:08:19.320 --> 1:08:23.680 from their New York run? Damon a new Damon? I 1:08:23.680 --> 1:08:27.400 wot's say Damon had been on SNL for a minute. Uh, 1:08:27.960 --> 1:08:32.720 oh that's right. Forgot about that too. Yeah, I want 1:08:32.720 --> 1:08:36.360 to say Damon been on SNL for a minute, but uh, 1:08:36.640 --> 1:08:40.280 I ended up with two lines of Beverly Hills cop Uh. 1:08:40.720 --> 1:08:43.960 Audition for the Tonight show didn't get it, but Eddie's 1:08:44.000 --> 1:08:46.960 manager liked me, so I ended up being signed by 1:08:47.040 --> 1:08:52.639 Eddie's manager and Richie Tinkin just in one fell swoop 1:08:52.840 --> 1:08:56.760 like yeah, everybody for a second, you know, like you know, 1:08:56.840 --> 1:08:59.280 it's like like we are like every guy's like the 1:08:59.360 --> 1:09:02.960 next Jordan, right or the next Lebron. I was one 1:09:03.040 --> 1:09:04.760 of the you know, I was a guy might be 1:09:04.880 --> 1:09:06.920 next Yeah, this guy might be the next Eddie Murphy. 1:09:07.040 --> 1:09:10.519 I was like, when you did that for the first time, 1:09:11.680 --> 1:09:13.960 when you did Our Senio for the first time, how 1:09:14.080 --> 1:09:16.200 far was that? Because I remember the night you did 1:09:16.280 --> 1:09:17.880 your first our Site. That was probably a couple of 1:09:18.000 --> 1:09:22.960 years after that. I was in high school, so it 1:09:23.080 --> 1:09:26.879 was like our Citio. We did that Uptown Comedy Express 1:09:26.960 --> 1:09:31.400 thing Uptown Comedy. Yeah, so we did that No Uptown 1:09:31.439 --> 1:09:34.680 Comedy Express was HBO special right right with like Marshall Warfors, 1:09:35.920 --> 1:09:39.960 Marshall Field, Barry Sobel. Yeah, I remember that. Robert got 1:09:40.000 --> 1:09:42.360 in trouble for watching that. Have you played with Eddie? 1:09:42.400 --> 1:09:44.679 Have you been in the basement and had to play drums? 1:09:44.800 --> 1:09:49.240 I got summoned to work on some music. There you go. 1:09:50.040 --> 1:09:54.479 He hired me twice to dj. Uh there's parties for him? 1:09:55.160 --> 1:09:59.880 Um but yeah, I think, yeah, we just gave each other. 1:10:00.760 --> 1:10:04.240 I guess too. I think knowing you is Eddie Murphy enough? 1:10:04.600 --> 1:10:07.280 Like I don't know, you know, you know, like when 1:10:07.439 --> 1:10:10.160 you might not want to meet sir, I wouldn't want 1:10:10.160 --> 1:10:12.000 to meet Michael Jackson. I don't know if I want 1:10:12.000 --> 1:10:15.000 to meet Eddie Murphy. Yeah, no, no, I'm hey man, 1:10:15.120 --> 1:10:17.320 I'm you say, like he's still the funniest guy in 1:10:17.320 --> 1:10:19.120 the room, the funniest at the room. He's still the 1:10:19.160 --> 1:10:23.000 funniest guy in a room. And even I still a 1:10:23.240 --> 1:10:27.160 little bit fucking intimidated by him. I just hung out 1:10:27.200 --> 1:10:28.960 with him. But he likes you, and you know, he 1:10:29.080 --> 1:10:31.760 a couple of months ago. Sometimes he likes me. But 1:10:33.439 --> 1:10:37.679 howel out that you've come up. He's been great I can't. 1:10:37.720 --> 1:10:39.680 I mean, he's usually the first call when I do 1:10:39.800 --> 1:10:42.960 something good. Whatever he's so the night after bringing the pain, 1:10:43.560 --> 1:10:46.559 everything changed. Yes, he was the first call, literally first call, 1:10:46.800 --> 1:10:48.800 and what he said just you did it great. It 1:10:48.920 --> 1:10:51.519 was amazing, all that ship, every everything you want to hear, 1:10:52.600 --> 1:10:56.000 you know, Eddie sein felt whatever, But I was. I 1:10:56.120 --> 1:11:00.599 was with Eddie. We we share a business manager. Uh, 1:11:01.000 --> 1:11:03.800 we share a business manager. Me, Eddie and Arsineo have 1:11:03.880 --> 1:11:06.200 the same business manager. And you know, we go little head. 1:11:06.240 --> 1:11:10.679 He's not broke, so I guess this guy's good. So anyway, 1:11:10.760 --> 1:11:15.160 our business manager was getting married, and so we're all 1:11:15.240 --> 1:11:17.400 at because you want to go to your business manager's wedding, 1:11:17.439 --> 1:11:18.760 you don't, you don't. You don't want to mad at 1:11:18.840 --> 1:11:22.639 you for anything we've got, you know. So we're all 1:11:22.880 --> 1:11:25.400 flying back. We Eddie had a plane going back, so 1:11:25.560 --> 1:11:27.479 we flew back together. So it's me, Eddie and ar 1:11:27.520 --> 1:11:32.320 Cineo on a plane together, just fucking chilling, talking talking 1:11:32.360 --> 1:11:36.560 ship and at one point Eddie's talking about watching the 1:11:36.640 --> 1:11:40.280 hip hop otters and ship and he said something about 1:11:40.400 --> 1:11:43.080 he met carriss One and he starts doing a caress 1:11:43.160 --> 1:11:47.280 One impression. It's the funniest ship in the world, Carriss 1:11:47.560 --> 1:11:55.920 Eddie Murphy going, my raps will destroy you. He has 1:11:59.160 --> 1:12:02.599 probably might do one. Caress One's the funniest shit ever. 1:12:04.720 --> 1:12:09.840 My wraps will destroy you, like the ultimate over annunciator. 1:12:10.120 --> 1:12:13.920 I had no idea you didn't do as you know, 1:12:14.160 --> 1:12:19.160 like the hashtag well actually is on the line that okay, 1:12:19.240 --> 1:12:24.240 So whenever Jay z Ivant caress one, it's always well, actually, 1:12:30.920 --> 1:12:37.360 raps will destroy you. I told that to Dave and 1:12:37.520 --> 1:12:40.760 Cute Tip one night, and pretty much anytime we text 1:12:40.840 --> 1:12:49.200 each other it ends with my my wraps will destroy you. 1:12:49.439 --> 1:12:52.479 When's the last time you texted that to Cute Tip? 1:12:53.200 --> 1:12:55.920 I don't know. Two weeks ago. You know, you want 1:12:55.920 --> 1:12:59.160 to know something when cut Tip was in the scene 1:12:59.240 --> 1:13:02.519 that you're in now, you mustn't type that to him 1:13:03.280 --> 1:13:07.120 because he's like, he was going to explain the inside joke. 1:13:07.720 --> 1:13:10.200 He's like, wait, Chris has this joke about he said 1:13:10.240 --> 1:13:12.920 about and he's like, no, it's too far to go into. 1:13:13.120 --> 1:13:18.120 And I was like, I'm almost certain that that was Dave. 1:13:18.320 --> 1:13:23.800 You know, Dave will start crying the thought of Eddie 1:13:23.840 --> 1:13:29.200 doing caress one, So like, how do you nuance? First 1:13:29.240 --> 1:13:35.000 of all, my raps caress every time he lives in 1:13:35.160 --> 1:13:38.720 l A. Now he lives in to pinker Canyon and 1:13:38.800 --> 1:13:40.639 whenever I see him, I go to pank A Canyon, 1:13:40.720 --> 1:13:56.960 to pang A Canyon, and he's another He's another anti 1:13:57.080 --> 1:14:00.880 airplane rapper. He doesn't fly. Oh God, every summer he 1:14:01.000 --> 1:14:05.960 turns down the roots picnic because, uh, the Queen Mary. 1:14:06.240 --> 1:14:08.240 It's it's a two week process for him to take 1:14:08.280 --> 1:14:17.880 the boat boat dog Harris one. There there are there 1:14:17.960 --> 1:14:21.439 are a slew of rappers from the eighties that are 1:14:21.560 --> 1:14:25.400 definitely afraid of flying. Rock him carriss One like pretty 1:14:25.479 --> 1:14:28.280 much if they were under the Rush roster. Maybe he 1:14:28.400 --> 1:14:30.400 was a bad flight one time in their lives. Public 1:14:30.520 --> 1:14:33.800 Enemy is the only group active maybe l O that 1:14:34.320 --> 1:14:37.560 I know that has gotten over flying to Europe or 1:14:37.720 --> 1:14:43.519 flying anywhere. Carriss One, Uh will drive himself to any 1:14:43.560 --> 1:14:45.320 place in the United States. He won't get on the 1:14:45.360 --> 1:14:48.800 plane in the United States. And yeah him and rock 1:14:48.880 --> 1:14:52.240 him take the Queen Mary. I didn't even know that before. Yes, 1:14:52.320 --> 1:14:55.880 the Queen Mary to to England and mentor Europe that way. 1:14:56.280 --> 1:14:59.120 Well here's the crazy thing. I will bet. I'll bet 1:14:59.200 --> 1:15:02.280 you a thousand dollars right now. One of them can't 1:15:02.320 --> 1:15:21.240 swiping to say you won't take that bet. So I mean, alright, 1:15:21.320 --> 1:15:28.360 so when you're establishing, I'm assuming that you're I'm assuming 1:15:28.400 --> 1:15:32.040 that you're New York. You're you're New York base of comedy. Uh. 1:15:32.520 --> 1:15:35.080 I think I made a too earlier. I think I 1:15:35.120 --> 1:15:42.559 made a record in the studio. What Buster and eminem 1:15:43.160 --> 1:15:46.760 like on an unreleased Buster record or something. This is 1:15:46.840 --> 1:15:49.320 not the place Tupac with shot? Yes it is. This 1:15:49.439 --> 1:15:53.599 is Quad. I thought it was no elevator downstairs? Were 1:15:53.640 --> 1:15:55.439 you in the right or the left elevator when you 1:15:55.479 --> 1:15:59.240 got it? When he came in, Q, he got shot 1:15:59.320 --> 1:16:03.240 in a lot B Yes, downstairs Quad? This is not 1:16:03.680 --> 1:16:06.920 this is two PACs. I came in, Okay. When you 1:16:07.000 --> 1:16:08.479 walked in the door, did you get on the right 1:16:08.520 --> 1:16:10.840 elevator or the left elevator? Okay, I gotta look at 1:16:10.840 --> 1:16:14.040 it again, right or left elevator? What block will be 1:16:14.160 --> 1:16:18.960 on at night? You're in denial, dude? Yes, I was 1:16:19.000 --> 1:16:22.479 there that night. Yes, I think this is I think 1:16:22.479 --> 1:16:27.200 they move Quad. No, dog, I know this place because 1:16:27.200 --> 1:16:29.160 I made I made no Sex in the champagne room 1:16:29.240 --> 1:16:38.000 at Quad, and all my all my albums were at 1:16:38.080 --> 1:16:40.800 Quadqua a little bit electric lady, Let did you do 1:16:41.160 --> 1:16:43.519 the stuff for an Older Baster second album? Yes, the 1:16:43.520 --> 1:16:51.599 Old Dirty Bastt second album. Yeah, yeah, was upstairs Corell 1:16:51.680 --> 1:16:55.920 and oldb upstairs. I was downstairs. That wasn't playing. Was happening. 1:16:56.120 --> 1:17:00.280 I wanted Old Dirty Bassett for my album and wanted 1:17:01.240 --> 1:17:07.200 on walls no more. So I did my part of 1:17:07.240 --> 1:17:11.960 Old Dirty Bassett's album right, because I'm a professional. Of course, 1:17:12.240 --> 1:17:14.760 by the time it was time for ODB to do 1:17:15.600 --> 1:17:18.280 whatever sketch we wrote for my album, he was too 1:17:18.360 --> 1:17:20.719 fucked up to do it. So he's in the booth 1:17:21.200 --> 1:17:24.880 and he's just spouting shit. He's just high as mother. 1:17:25.200 --> 1:17:29.080 He might have been swatting at imaginary flies like he 1:17:29.240 --> 1:17:32.280 was so fucked up. He completely made it all up. 1:17:32.320 --> 1:17:35.040 He completely made it all up. And my man Ali 1:17:35.880 --> 1:17:40.120 thought of a concept. Ali Leroy thought of the concept 1:17:40.840 --> 1:17:43.240 Words of Wisdom with the Old Dirty Baskett, And so 1:17:43.520 --> 1:17:54.840 me Ali and Prince Paul and we're like, okay, so, 1:17:55.040 --> 1:17:57.320 who who are your peers at this at this point? 1:17:58.040 --> 1:18:00.200 What is your home? Basis a cancer rising, starry home? 1:18:00.280 --> 1:18:03.960 Basis that the comedy seller Now well, no, not now, 1:18:04.080 --> 1:18:09.600 but I'm saying back in my peers, Adam Sandlers, my 1:18:09.720 --> 1:18:14.120 pier Colin Quinn's my pier, Mario Joyners, my Pierre Brett 1:18:14.240 --> 1:18:21.400 Butler is my pier. Uh. John Ridley, who wrote Yeah, 1:18:23.600 --> 1:18:27.200 was a was a comedian. Wait what was a comedian? 1:18:27.280 --> 1:18:29.000 You know what? I told me that John Ridley was 1:18:29.040 --> 1:18:31.800 a comedian. He worked with all of us. Was my 1:18:32.000 --> 1:18:37.920 pier uh. Scott Carter, the longtime producer of Bill Mars Show, 1:18:38.080 --> 1:18:43.040 was my pier. Um. Yeah. Lots of cool cats. Gary 1:18:43.160 --> 1:18:50.760 Laser uh, Fred Stoler Uh, Jim Mandrinos, like guys you 1:18:50.880 --> 1:18:57.040 just never heard of. But are they still actively working? Oh? Yeah? Everybody. 1:18:57.080 --> 1:19:00.400 Nobody quits this ship. Where do you just go to Vegas? 1:19:00.600 --> 1:19:02.519 Like in your mind? Now, are you like I gotta 1:19:02.560 --> 1:19:06.560 avoid Reno? No? I mean you'll be there eventually, you know, 1:19:07.880 --> 1:19:12.320 if you're lucky put Away, your career is basically Vegas. 1:19:13.200 --> 1:19:18.800 You want to stay near Caesar's Palace. But as your career, 1:19:19.000 --> 1:19:21.719 as you get older, you're gonna move further down the strip, 1:19:24.760 --> 1:19:30.400 and you just want to avoid circus circus, circus circus 1:19:30.479 --> 1:19:32.439 in the rif you want to. Hopefully you don't get 1:19:32.520 --> 1:19:35.800 that far down there, but you know, but even if 1:19:35.840 --> 1:19:37.800 you get down there, it's at Leasha's still working. It's 1:19:37.840 --> 1:19:41.360 more than you can make someplace else. So no part 1:19:41.400 --> 1:19:48.280 of Vegas or a Lake city residencies are like eventually, eventually, 1:19:48.600 --> 1:19:52.519 you know, everybody's doing these residencies now. I don't my 1:19:52.680 --> 1:19:54.320 kids are here. I wouldn't want to do it now, 1:19:55.160 --> 1:19:57.280 but maybe someday. I don't know. I'm not against it. 1:19:57.720 --> 1:20:00.840 I don't know. I don't know. I would hope. I'm 1:20:00.840 --> 1:20:05.080 always touring, I would hope. I like touring a little bit, 1:20:05.360 --> 1:20:08.840 you know what I mean. I like going to San 1:20:08.920 --> 1:20:13.080 Antonio and doing walking the River Walk during the day 1:20:14.720 --> 1:20:18.439 and going by the Alamo in person. There's no basement 1:20:18.520 --> 1:20:24.640 in the Alamo, all right, so I gotta do that. 1:20:24.760 --> 1:20:29.280 That's from Peure I was seeing deep got to walk 1:20:29.320 --> 1:20:33.800 out of the Alamo and say that large marg Oh yeah, 1:20:34.400 --> 1:20:47.439 any okay, okay, anyway, raps will destroy you. That's the 1:20:47.520 --> 1:20:54.600 cute tip dance break My raps will destroy you. So 1:20:55.080 --> 1:20:59.360 how did you get the role of Pooky and audition 1:20:59.560 --> 1:21:05.120 audition read for it? Uh Doug and George, Doug mckenry, 1:21:05.840 --> 1:21:09.720 George Jack Where the producers Marl Van Peoples saw me 1:21:09.880 --> 1:21:13.960 A woman named Joan Fields was my agent at the time. 1:21:14.040 --> 1:21:17.479 She was the only black agent at William Morris. She 1:21:17.600 --> 1:21:20.320 just died not too long ago. And uh, she was 1:21:20.320 --> 1:21:23.200 the only black agent at William Morris. And she got 1:21:23.320 --> 1:21:25.800 me the audition. I guess she was tight with uh 1:21:26.280 --> 1:21:28.240 for Doug and George and they got she got me 1:21:28.360 --> 1:21:30.960 in there, and I kind of got the part. I mean, 1:21:31.320 --> 1:21:35.840 I hear they wanted Martin Lawrence now, um, because you know, 1:21:35.920 --> 1:21:39.599 Martin Lawrence was amazing and he still is amazing. Uh. 1:21:40.040 --> 1:21:42.400 But uh, you know, they had no money so that 1:21:42.600 --> 1:21:44.280 I think they would have had to fly Martin in 1:21:44.840 --> 1:21:48.080 and I happen to live in Brooklyn, Like I remember 1:21:48.200 --> 1:21:51.080 driving my mother's car to the set the first day. 1:21:51.640 --> 1:21:55.400 You know, it was a low, low budget movie. No one, 1:21:55.520 --> 1:21:59.439 No one picked me up. What was what did you 1:21:59.479 --> 1:22:02.120 have to read? What part of it? The scene? The 1:22:02.200 --> 1:22:04.519 scene that our auditioned for was the one where me 1:22:04.600 --> 1:22:07.160 and the girl fought over the chicken in the hallway 1:22:10.920 --> 1:22:15.240 correck like like whatever. I think I had lived that line, 1:22:16.000 --> 1:22:19.160 but uh so weird. I wonder what happened to that girl. 1:22:19.160 --> 1:22:22.719 I was about to ask people, are I have no idea? 1:22:23.080 --> 1:22:26.240 I used to date the girl that when he asked, 1:22:26.680 --> 1:22:30.920 does she have a milking titties? One night we're watching 1:22:30.960 --> 1:22:34.080 and she's like, there you go. I was like, you 1:22:34.160 --> 1:22:41.679 got where's the roots? What's what's the roots? Cover album? 1:22:41.720 --> 1:22:48.880 Where is that? Like? This is hey, my favorite, my 1:22:48.920 --> 1:22:52.160 favorite rage against the Machine albums to cover album. That 1:22:52.360 --> 1:22:58.880 Ship is hot, the Rick Ruben fucking fucking rage against 1:22:58.920 --> 1:23:05.719 the Machine doing pistol grip pump ship exactly. Microphone Fine, 1:23:08.320 --> 1:23:11.320 it's cool, but you know what kill a man? That 1:23:11.479 --> 1:23:17.800 ship is hot. It's cool like Evil Empire for me 1:23:18.040 --> 1:23:21.200 is that's that's I have all their ship. But that 1:23:21.600 --> 1:23:23.880 as an album to listen to, you want to listen 1:23:23.920 --> 1:23:27.880 to like eight records in a row. Yo, what you've 1:23:27.920 --> 1:23:31.720 called it? The Dylan thing they did? Uh Maggie's Farm, 1:23:32.320 --> 1:23:39.160 Chris is secretly by the way, Chris basically yeah, he 1:23:40.520 --> 1:23:44.240 student do a cover record. Do the Maggie's do that record? Essentially? 1:23:45.920 --> 1:23:49.040 And you said it because Trick is great, he's our executive. 1:23:50.360 --> 1:23:53.280 I'm going to prove i'mna great imitator and he's a 1:23:53.360 --> 1:23:57.320 great interpreter. I'm gonna prove to Chris that we still 1:23:57.360 --> 1:23:59.160 have good songs in this Dude, no one say you 1:23:59.200 --> 1:24:02.479 don't still have good song You think to prove that 1:24:02.840 --> 1:24:06.040 if I could make a fucking album right now somebody 1:24:06.080 --> 1:24:09.439 else's jokes. You don't think I would do that ship 1:24:12.000 --> 1:24:15.320 to have But I have to prove I got something 1:24:15.400 --> 1:24:19.559 to prove with myself. I've I've I'll say that I've 1:24:19.640 --> 1:24:23.880 dj more than I ever have in the last eight years, 1:24:24.000 --> 1:24:27.720 of which this is also the longest gap of no 1:24:27.960 --> 1:24:32.080 roots material since rich I was with you the day 1:24:32.160 --> 1:24:35.760 that rich our producer died finishing uh top five. We 1:24:35.800 --> 1:24:38.240 haven't made an album since. So yeah, you should do 1:24:38.280 --> 1:24:42.240 it cover rap and do two new records at the 1:24:42.320 --> 1:24:47.599 end of the record. But have fun, enjoy yourself. Don't 1:24:47.600 --> 1:24:50.400 put yourself on this because because the reality is you 1:24:50.600 --> 1:24:53.479 have a job, and your job is a Tonight show 1:24:53.520 --> 1:24:56.639 and everything else goes from that, and you cannot make 1:24:57.160 --> 1:24:59.240 and so whatever you do will be on the side, 1:24:59.800 --> 1:25:02.439 and nothing as great great as made on the side 1:25:03.080 --> 1:25:07.120 can only be good. So but you can. But doing 1:25:07.160 --> 1:25:11.439 a cover record eliminates half the fucking work. That's my 1:25:11.760 --> 1:25:15.959 denerro heat movement. Though I feel like I'm a great producer, 1:25:16.320 --> 1:25:19.680 I've never been a great songwriter and it's but the 1:25:19.760 --> 1:25:25.439 thing is, it's all covers what sometimes he covers himself. 1:25:26.720 --> 1:25:33.760 But I'm the best, but I'm saying that. I feel, Okay, 1:25:33.800 --> 1:25:38.000 let's get somebody else to sing good to you. Not 1:25:38.240 --> 1:25:41.519 having the thing tomorrow, I feel I feel like the 1:25:41.600 --> 1:25:45.639 best producers in in the hip hop were also DJs. 1:25:45.680 --> 1:25:48.240 And I didn't realize that after I saw Uh, the 1:25:48.400 --> 1:25:51.600 n w A movie and realized the the rest in 1:25:51.640 --> 1:25:54.599 the stress that Dr Dre was under as a DJ 1:25:54.760 --> 1:25:56.800 at that roller Scape rink, which is basically like you 1:25:56.880 --> 1:26:02.080 played the wrong right. Then I realized, oh, the pressure 1:26:02.120 --> 1:26:04.960 of Dre being a DJ. I had that same pressure 1:26:05.400 --> 1:26:09.160 last month at the White House where you know, uh, 1:26:10.400 --> 1:26:12.680 when you're in a room with three thousand people and 1:26:12.880 --> 1:26:17.639 it's like you're playing some trapshit and Springsteen's frowning at 1:26:17.680 --> 1:26:20.600 you because he can't dance trap shit. But then you 1:26:20.720 --> 1:26:23.640 play like Michael Jackson and those two are happy, but 1:26:23.680 --> 1:26:27.080 then like Malee and Sassia over there frowning because they don't. 1:26:27.680 --> 1:26:30.640 It's such a high pressured moment, but it's made me. 1:26:30.800 --> 1:26:33.800 I feel like it's educated me more. Being a DJ 1:26:34.000 --> 1:26:38.280 these last five years has educated me more about songwriting 1:26:38.320 --> 1:26:44.000 structure than my first eighteen years as a route, so 1:26:44.040 --> 1:26:47.080 I don't even count even your beloved things of all apart, 1:26:47.120 --> 1:26:50.400 I don't account none of that anymore. I want one 1:26:50.439 --> 1:26:53.080 more go around at making a fresh album before I 1:26:53.160 --> 1:26:58.680 start just doing the side projects. Thank you, this was 1:26:58.760 --> 1:27:03.559 and O d B. Occasionally I get offers to bring 1:27:03.920 --> 1:27:07.080 C Before back CE Before as what bring it back 1:27:07.080 --> 1:27:11.840 as what like? Offers to play festivals and stuff group, 1:27:13.680 --> 1:27:16.280 And well, what would I do if I brought C 1:27:16.400 --> 1:27:19.519 Before back? I would record an album of covers. That's 1:27:19.560 --> 1:27:24.960 what the funk I do. But there's less. There's less, 1:27:25.760 --> 1:27:28.280 and I would tour with that album with covers, and 1:27:28.360 --> 1:27:31.000 I would make millions of dollars. Or I could try 1:27:31.040 --> 1:27:34.280 to write fucking ten great CB board songs, but they're 1:27:34.320 --> 1:27:39.439 not gonna play as before like cfore as the novelty 1:27:39.520 --> 1:27:44.760 B and CB group. But the roots should do I 1:27:44.840 --> 1:27:47.400 got what's like. The roots can make more money doing 1:27:47.560 --> 1:27:49.519 I got it made than special lead can make do 1:27:49.600 --> 1:27:52.000 what I got it made. The roots can make more 1:27:52.120 --> 1:27:56.200 money doing. I can name ten songs that the roots 1:27:57.840 --> 1:28:03.479 absolutely you mean remix too, not just do the I'm 1:28:03.479 --> 1:28:06.800 not saying, I'm saying, do your thing to it. I 1:28:06.880 --> 1:28:10.320 can think you and I can think of literally twenty 1:28:10.400 --> 1:28:18.360 songs him why my beautiful, twisted, dark Fantasy. It is 1:28:18.439 --> 1:28:25.439 the best album of all times. Let's come back to that. Hey, hey, 1:28:27.040 --> 1:28:31.599 came up with Problems. It's a cover what Yeah? Rick 1:28:31.680 --> 1:28:34.840 Rubin calls me up. He goes, Jay Z is coming in. 1:28:35.000 --> 1:28:37.360 What should I play him? Because Rick Rubin believed Rick 1:28:37.400 --> 1:28:41.040 Ruben is a cover guy too. Rick Rubin's basically, you're 1:28:41.080 --> 1:28:45.639 gonna find yourself through doing covers. You cover the ship 1:28:45.760 --> 1:28:47.639 you like. So if I have the Chili Preppers coming 1:28:47.680 --> 1:28:50.760 and they like I can't always get what you want, 1:28:51.560 --> 1:28:53.719 why don't you play can't always get what you want? First? 1:28:54.040 --> 1:28:56.080 Why don't you play ten and stay away to happen? 1:28:56.080 --> 1:29:01.320 And through playing these other records you will define. You 1:29:01.400 --> 1:29:03.679 will find anyway. So he's like, what should I play? 1:29:04.200 --> 1:29:08.400 Jay and I had two records just because we you know, 1:29:08.520 --> 1:29:10.600 we always listen to music, Me and Rick and I 1:29:10.680 --> 1:29:12.760 was like, play the ninety nine Problems and play them 1:29:12.800 --> 1:29:17.280 this other weird record, Canna get a Table dance? Uh, 1:29:17.600 --> 1:29:20.080 ninety nine Problems is a weird record. Ninety nine Problems 1:29:20.080 --> 1:29:22.000 is a record that was on an Ice T album 1:29:22.800 --> 1:29:26.439 when he got kicked off Warner Brothers, and I'm just 1:29:26.560 --> 1:29:29.840 the guy that listens to everybody's whole album. So I 1:29:29.960 --> 1:29:34.599 heard so I heard it then, and me and Rick 1:29:34.720 --> 1:29:37.479 just loved the record anyway. He plays it for j J. 1:29:37.720 --> 1:29:42.720 Loves it, totally turns it into his own thing. And 1:29:42.880 --> 1:29:45.479 you know, it's one of his biggest records. It's it's 1:29:45.520 --> 1:29:48.400 definitely one of his biggest records live. How similar is it? 1:29:49.000 --> 1:29:54.320 It's the same hook, So there you go. I have 1:29:54.560 --> 1:29:59.560 I know what I'm talking about. What made you choose this? 1:30:01.280 --> 1:30:04.040 It's the greatest hook ever. It's a great hook. I'm 1:30:04.040 --> 1:30:06.400 not saying it. I have a girl problems. Don't feel 1:30:06.439 --> 1:30:08.560 bad for your son. I got ninety problems with a 1:30:08.600 --> 1:30:16.679 bitch eight was hitting it. I wanted to be a rapper. 1:30:16.760 --> 1:30:20.880 I just couldn't wrap. So there you go. That it 1:30:21.040 --> 1:30:23.120 was weird. If it weren't for New Jack City, I 1:30:23.360 --> 1:30:26.760 don't know well New Jack City and the subsequent four 1:30:26.880 --> 1:30:30.799 star uh leave review that Ice Tea got Rolling Stone 1:30:31.439 --> 1:30:35.960 for the O G Original Gangster album. I probably probably 1:30:36.000 --> 1:30:37.719 want to listen to it. That's a really good album, 1:30:37.920 --> 1:30:41.000 but it was I love that record, and that's his 1:30:41.160 --> 1:30:43.600 best album to me, Like that's no what would you 1:30:43.680 --> 1:30:48.720 played yourself on it? That power? Freedom of speech? Just 1:30:49.080 --> 1:30:51.080 what you say? You like? You like that one better? 1:30:51.200 --> 1:30:54.680 I love it. You played yourself. It's just amazing record. Chris, 1:30:55.920 --> 1:31:00.160 How long is this fucking thing? It's nine hour? Is 1:31:00.240 --> 1:31:04.120 now it's a three hour? Really sorry, but we're having 1:31:05.800 --> 1:31:10.800 but okay, he's about to change all his means like 1:31:10.880 --> 1:31:14.760 apparently I have another ninety minutes left. Now, we'll wrap 1:31:14.800 --> 1:31:23.960 it up in ninety minutes. Um, it's not Brandon Steven Glover. Okay, 1:31:24.320 --> 1:31:30.120 who you Donald Glover's brother? Yeah? Who writes? He looks 1:31:30.200 --> 1:31:35.200 like h Vernon reach it? Yeah, I got, I got, 1:31:35.280 --> 1:31:37.639 no shame I want to work on like, oh get 1:31:37.680 --> 1:31:40.720 that guy? You want to do Atlanta? No, I don't. 1:31:40.800 --> 1:31:42.600 I love it so much. I don't want to be 1:31:42.680 --> 1:31:46.519 on it. I love Atlanta so much, like like I 1:31:46.880 --> 1:31:48.960 like when I talked to I was like, no guest stars, 1:31:49.080 --> 1:31:51.120 just fucking you know what I mean? I like it 1:31:51.160 --> 1:31:53.080 should be like a Dre record. It should only be 1:31:54.160 --> 1:32:00.560 But you didn't dog Yeah right, you know not. Empires 1:32:00.560 --> 1:32:03.280 are just figured. I just did that because the Empires. 1:32:03.320 --> 1:32:06.559 No Atlanta, No, Atlanta is like the greatest ship ever 1:32:06.760 --> 1:32:10.240 it's like some ship we dreamed about, Like Obama should 1:32:10.280 --> 1:32:14.040 have mentioned it in his speech, like we did it, 1:32:15.280 --> 1:32:19.880 Yes we can. It's like Atlanta. Is that good? Some 1:32:20.040 --> 1:32:24.040 ship we didn't think we'd ever see. Well, that's good 1:32:24.120 --> 1:32:27.000 that you you jumped the trainer. But yeah, I'm already 1:32:27.080 --> 1:32:30.040 like okay, how how how I can be down? Oh? 1:32:30.080 --> 1:32:33.320 You're down? You're down. So his brother writes his brother. 1:32:33.360 --> 1:32:34.840 I mean I talked to him and he was like, 1:32:35.560 --> 1:32:37.920 hire my brother. I'm like, yeah, sure, whatever whatever you 1:32:38.000 --> 1:32:43.400 say there, whatever whatever you say, Mr Gambino. I'm like, 1:32:44.439 --> 1:32:48.240 I'm rolling with you. You have your pa. I don't 1:32:48.280 --> 1:32:50.799 got my I'm just like I'm not gonna be stupid, 1:32:51.320 --> 1:32:56.400 Like this ship is hot. You know a lot of 1:32:56.479 --> 1:33:00.240 times with black stuff anyway, No one people don't think 1:33:00.280 --> 1:33:05.679 it's written. People like kinda people overlook the nerd factor. 1:33:05.760 --> 1:33:08.400 They think it's naturally done. Yes, they think it's you know, 1:33:08.640 --> 1:33:11.200 they think everything is just natural, and these niggers just 1:33:11.280 --> 1:33:15.439 show up and they yeah, they don't realize that the 1:33:15.560 --> 1:33:19.000 stories were broken and you know, scripts were written and rewritten. 1:33:19.040 --> 1:33:22.719 It's like, okay, yeah, I always described that if Woody 1:33:22.800 --> 1:33:26.240 Allen were allowed to direct Masterpiece about it, about it, 1:33:27.880 --> 1:33:30.519 I think it was the greatest. No, but I feel 1:33:30.560 --> 1:33:33.400 like that's I mean, Atlanta me is like a surrealist, 1:33:34.360 --> 1:33:39.639 high intellectual surrealist comedy that you know, that that has 1:33:39.720 --> 1:33:45.240 the grittiness of a you know, of a masterpiece. It 1:33:45.400 --> 1:33:48.600 literally it does have the grittiness of the intellect of 1:33:49.040 --> 1:33:53.280 how people at least the perception of, you know, of 1:33:53.320 --> 1:33:57.160 Woody Allen comedy. But does that not make Donald Glover 1:33:57.280 --> 1:34:00.879 like a unicorn, like Donald Glover childish gambino in himself, 1:34:01.080 --> 1:34:05.160 like as a comedian, producer, writer, artists. No, No, he's 1:34:05.240 --> 1:34:08.840 doing the thing he's doing. You know, he was pulling 1:34:08.880 --> 1:34:12.200 an ice cube, you know. See. Now last week he 1:34:12.240 --> 1:34:14.960 told me as well, well Will, I mean he's Will 1:34:15.080 --> 1:34:19.599 too in a sense, I mean Will's yeah, I guess 1:34:20.400 --> 1:34:24.479 I don't know. I mean, I mean his music is good. 1:34:24.479 --> 1:34:28.240 I love this new album of us. He's not Will, 1:34:28.720 --> 1:34:31.960 He's not willing. That this is I mean Will Will's movie. 1:34:31.960 --> 1:34:34.400 Sh It's just you can't nobody can work with it really, 1:34:35.360 --> 1:34:36.920 but he's doing it in It's weird because he can 1:34:36.960 --> 1:34:39.000 still be him. Like, I feel like it's fascinating that 1:34:39.080 --> 1:34:41.519 Atlanta so black as it is but I mean it's 1:34:41.560 --> 1:34:43.960 just like Ice Cub wrote Friday. We forget Ice Cub 1:34:44.040 --> 1:34:50.320 wrote Friday like he wrote yeah it No, no, he 1:34:50.439 --> 1:34:52.760 wrote it. I remember I was. I was the Chris 1:34:52.880 --> 1:34:56.200 Tucker part, probably for like eight hours one day, and 1:34:59.040 --> 1:35:00.880 like they were gonna pay me eighty grand and he 1:35:00.960 --> 1:35:03.040 did it for forty or something like that. I forget. 1:35:03.479 --> 1:35:05.840 I mean, it's weird because I remember Cube telling me 1:35:06.760 --> 1:35:08.600 as a guy that one. By the way, he's a 1:35:08.680 --> 1:35:10.840 thousand times better in the I wouldn't have been that good. 1:35:10.960 --> 1:35:12.880 I wouldn't I wouldn't have been as good as Chris Tucker. 1:35:12.960 --> 1:35:15.320 Chris Tucker is perfect for the part. But I remember 1:35:15.520 --> 1:35:18.400 Cube kind of telling me in a car like I 1:35:18.479 --> 1:35:20.960 had a meeting with him and he made me listen 1:35:21.000 --> 1:35:24.600 to a whole Lynch Mob album. So I'm like in 1:35:24.720 --> 1:35:29.200 a car with Yeah, I'm in a car with Cube 1:35:29.360 --> 1:35:32.840 kind of smoking a joint? Is he He's playing Lynch 1:35:32.920 --> 1:35:36.439 Mob records and they were okay? But you just like, 1:35:37.000 --> 1:35:42.400 when what's the part with Ice Cube? No neck? You know, 1:35:43.600 --> 1:35:46.360 is yo yo on this one or not? Yeah? Exactly 1:35:47.320 --> 1:35:50.840 all right. So yeah, a long career I've been around, 1:35:51.200 --> 1:35:53.760 so you and I have something in common that that 1:35:53.920 --> 1:35:58.880 we both are love our dads. Yeah, well yeah, black 1:35:58.920 --> 1:36:01.080 guys that love their dads. That's we went to the 1:36:01.160 --> 1:36:05.519 high schools a couple of us, will Smith, grat Hill, 1:36:08.320 --> 1:36:10.800 that's a bunch of us. But you and I went 1:36:10.840 --> 1:36:14.479 to thirty Rock University. Thirty Rock. Yes, I definitely went 1:36:14.600 --> 1:36:16.920 to thirty Rock University. I mean, in hindsight, I'm sure 1:36:17.000 --> 1:36:20.040 that you have nothing but positive things to say. But 1:36:20.720 --> 1:36:22.639 the thing I always wanted to know about thirty Rock 1:36:22.960 --> 1:36:26.519 is that, I mean, and we're now in two thousand seventeen. 1:36:27.360 --> 1:36:30.760 I mean, it's so politically correct and you know, if 1:36:30.800 --> 1:36:33.880 there are any vices, people hide it. But just all 1:36:33.960 --> 1:36:36.760 that folklore that I've read about, like the SNL or 1:36:36.920 --> 1:36:41.479 history book and about like you know, the the the 1:36:42.600 --> 1:36:48.240 binge days of you know, all the there's not even 1:36:48.320 --> 1:36:51.040 smoking there now, like, oh no, it was Harold. We 1:36:51.160 --> 1:36:55.000 smoked in the refrigerator. I had no mand it, you know, 1:36:56.880 --> 1:37:00.960 I had Chris Fawley Man. I had Chris Fawley. I'm 1:37:01.000 --> 1:37:02.800 not gonna blow up too many. Put it this way. 1:37:02.880 --> 1:37:12.439 In my cast dead right, Phil Hartman's wife shot him 1:37:12.479 --> 1:37:16.080 in the head. That you know what I mean? Like, 1:37:16.760 --> 1:37:19.200 so I mean, this ship was rock and roll. Motherfucker. 1:37:19.320 --> 1:37:22.360 This ship was like so weird. When I got hired 1:37:22.360 --> 1:37:24.920 at that s no, I lived in Brooklyn because I 1:37:24.960 --> 1:37:27.559 wasn't moving to Manhattan because I couldn't get a cab 1:37:27.600 --> 1:37:29.720 in man Head right, and I couldn't park a car, 1:37:29.960 --> 1:37:32.160 so it was like what the fuck? Just cost too 1:37:32.240 --> 1:37:33.960 much Parker car. I was never gonna get a cab 1:37:34.040 --> 1:37:36.519 fun this ship right Stan in Brooklyn, and I remember 1:37:36.600 --> 1:37:40.320 everybody was so uh Lauren, and everybody was concerned about 1:37:40.400 --> 1:37:43.880 me living in Brooklyn. I was the one that ever 1:37:43.960 --> 1:37:47.000 concerned about. Mean, while Chris is the guy who died 1:37:47.040 --> 1:37:49.639 basically living o d you know what I mean, everybody 1:37:49.720 --> 1:37:52.840 everybody was worried about the new black guy living who 1:37:52.920 --> 1:37:54.800 wasn't living in the I was living Fort Green. But 1:37:55.320 --> 1:37:56.960 oh do you mean like showing up one time or 1:37:57.040 --> 1:38:00.519 just like just concerned for your safety. It was just 1:38:01.320 --> 1:38:03.519 or how you were blend in with them, not even 1:38:04.000 --> 1:38:08.040 blend in with him, just like who recommends did you 1:38:08.120 --> 1:38:13.479 audition or audition? A guy named James Dixon who's Jon 1:38:13.560 --> 1:38:17.880 Stewart's agents, and a couple other people who was the 1:38:17.960 --> 1:38:20.439 Higgins at the time, who's the Higgins that the Higgins 1:38:20.479 --> 1:38:23.639 at the time was Jim Downey. And who's Higgins? Who's 1:38:23.640 --> 1:38:27.560 the head writer? Higgins is our Sideki no no no, no, 1:38:27.640 --> 1:38:35.400 no no. And and Senator Al Franken. Oh, keep forgetting 1:38:36.120 --> 1:38:39.439 I forgot so Al Franken was a senator, he was 1:38:39.640 --> 1:38:42.120 I think they were both the head writers. Uh. Conan 1:38:42.200 --> 1:38:45.800 O'Brien was a writer on the show. Uh. Bob oten 1:38:45.880 --> 1:38:49.400 Kirk was a writer on the show. Yeah. Did you 1:38:49.479 --> 1:38:51.360 ever have any issues with the things that you wrote 1:38:51.400 --> 1:38:52.840 on that show? I always wondered, like, is it ever 1:38:52.920 --> 1:38:57.599 too black for S and L or too black? Nothing 1:38:57.680 --> 1:39:00.360 was ever too black. It was just it was a situation, aation. 1:39:01.240 --> 1:39:03.280 First of all, I had an amazing time at SNL 1:39:03.360 --> 1:39:05.479 is the best thing. It's absolutely the best thing that 1:39:05.560 --> 1:39:08.400 ever happened to me. Yeah, because it kind of made 1:39:08.439 --> 1:39:10.240 me legit, you know what I mean, Like it was 1:39:10.280 --> 1:39:13.040 like graduating Harvard, which you did for the up and 1:39:13.040 --> 1:39:15.760 coming comedians from Howard and stuff made it even Yeah, 1:39:15.760 --> 1:39:19.880 I mean like I was. I was on SNL man, 1:39:19.920 --> 1:39:25.320 It is only you know, come on, like sn L 1:39:25.479 --> 1:39:30.479 forgetting even black, Like SNL is the X Men School 1:39:30.560 --> 1:39:33.840 of comedy. Okay, did Eddie give you any kind of 1:39:33.880 --> 1:39:36.920 preparation on what to expect. Eddie. The only thing Eddie 1:39:36.960 --> 1:39:39.120 told me. He kept telling me, it's like, just just 1:39:39.439 --> 1:39:41.640 make sure you write stuff for update because it's the 1:39:41.720 --> 1:39:47.320 easiest spot to get on. UM. But what was your question? 1:39:47.680 --> 1:39:49.400 I was just asking. It wasn't ever too edgy or 1:39:49.439 --> 1:39:51.040 black to where they were like it was to edgy 1:39:51.160 --> 1:39:54.200 or black. It was like, it's like this situation just 1:39:54.280 --> 1:39:56.840 white people in general. It's like the things they understand 1:39:56.960 --> 1:40:00.200 about black people tends to be has to have a 1:40:00.320 --> 1:40:03.519 racial element to it. So a lot of stuff I 1:40:03.760 --> 1:40:08.720 did it was more obvious like net X chilling, like 1:40:08.840 --> 1:40:10.840 that stuff is like obvious black stuff, you know what 1:40:10.880 --> 1:40:14.960 I mean. It wasn't really all the weird. I wasn't 1:40:15.000 --> 1:40:19.120 allowed to get into my weird side the other you know, 1:40:19.200 --> 1:40:21.320 like you so it had to be it had to 1:40:21.400 --> 1:40:25.519 be black. Yeah, so it had to be black. I mean, 1:40:25.680 --> 1:40:28.800 so you know, it's not that it's just white people 1:40:28.840 --> 1:40:31.960 in general. Is that the arsenio factor kicking in? Was 1:40:32.040 --> 1:40:34.760 that the living color factor kicking in? I got hired 1:40:34.760 --> 1:40:36.560 because of the living color I got hired just like 1:40:36.720 --> 1:40:40.840 every like whatever that the girl I keep forgetting her 1:40:40.920 --> 1:40:47.240 name I was from. Yeah, I got hired pretty much 1:40:47.280 --> 1:40:50.040 under the same circumstances. SNL hadn't had a black cast 1:40:50.160 --> 1:40:54.640 member in nine years, and Living Color was hopping, and 1:40:54.880 --> 1:40:56.680 they went out looking for a black cast member, and 1:40:56.880 --> 1:41:01.600 you know I got the job. Um but um, I 1:41:01.720 --> 1:41:04.040 forgot what else you're ready to say? No, just white 1:41:04.040 --> 1:41:06.840 people in general, when they're looking for black stuff, they 1:41:07.040 --> 1:41:13.280 tend to like something either ridiculously black. It basically goes 1:41:13.439 --> 1:41:16.439 to the Tracy Borgan or Larry Wilmore, you know what 1:41:16.479 --> 1:41:19.439 I mean, Like in the middle, in the middle, nothing 1:41:19.479 --> 1:41:23.040 in the middle. Nothing I'm taking because you explain, But 1:41:23.120 --> 1:41:26.479 do you explain in your whole and your whole theory 1:41:26.560 --> 1:41:29.720 of you did a joke about Obama could only hope 1:41:29.760 --> 1:41:33.320 to be mediocre? Is again, it's like, you know, it's 1:41:33.360 --> 1:41:38.519 either the perception that we're animals or we are super huge. 1:41:38.680 --> 1:41:41.040 Not calling any person an animal. Let's just let's get up. 1:41:41.080 --> 1:41:43.280 Well no, no, no, but I've meant like just whatever 1:41:44.280 --> 1:41:47.080 the one side of the spectrum where it's the extreme 1:41:47.479 --> 1:41:54.439 its triple raw or extreme caricature versus extreme intellect. But 1:41:55.040 --> 1:41:58.120 the thing with being ground zero middle is that that's 1:41:58.240 --> 1:42:02.720 just regular human yes, which is harder to Yeah, I 1:42:02.760 --> 1:42:05.479 mean that's what's Hey, that's why it let us genius, 1:42:06.720 --> 1:42:10.639 because it walks that thing. It's like, I was very rounded. 1:42:10.760 --> 1:42:12.599 I was recently told by a bunch of white women 1:42:12.720 --> 1:42:14.519 take a like a comedy class. They sound I made 1:42:14.560 --> 1:42:16.599 one joke. I get really nervous about making black jokes 1:42:16.640 --> 1:42:18.760 in front of white people, and so when I did 1:42:18.880 --> 1:42:20.720 finally write one, they were like, oh my god, we 1:42:20.840 --> 1:42:22.760 love it. Tell us more about ourselves, tell us about 1:42:22.760 --> 1:42:25.080 white women. And I was like, really, but that's to 1:42:25.200 --> 1:42:27.760 see that. That bothers me too, because I feel like 1:42:27.840 --> 1:42:32.880 that's almost like fetishizing or you know, the whole guilt 1:42:33.000 --> 1:42:35.360 the guilt factor kicking in. And I was wondering if 1:42:35.360 --> 1:42:36.400 it was a set up. I didn't know, but I 1:42:36.479 --> 1:42:38.639 was like, okay, I got a lot though, that's that's 1:42:38.680 --> 1:42:44.799 a set up. I'm sorry, that's a set up, sup. 1:42:45.760 --> 1:42:49.040 So okay, see you you're you're fine with your experience there, 1:42:49.080 --> 1:42:52.040 and the best experience is literally the best thing that 1:42:52.080 --> 1:42:54.240 I ever happened to me. I met the best people, 1:42:55.200 --> 1:42:58.759 uh not just I mean, hey, I got exposed about 1:42:58.920 --> 1:43:03.439 around a bunch of many So you know, I'm a 1:43:03.760 --> 1:43:07.839 guy from bed sty who came through this white system. 1:43:08.479 --> 1:43:12.960 So I still I'm still the guy who has to 1:43:13.120 --> 1:43:15.599 go and with my uncle to go get the guns 1:43:15.800 --> 1:43:19.120 before the bad cousins come. And at the same time, 1:43:19.280 --> 1:43:22.600 I know, Conan O'Brien, how can you funk with me? 1:43:23.240 --> 1:43:25.760 You can't funk with me, you know. I mean that's 1:43:25.760 --> 1:43:28.320 all like, that's a lot of route, that's a lot 1:43:28.400 --> 1:43:32.759 of education, alright. So that leads me to the period 1:43:32.800 --> 1:43:38.680 between you something for um, I'm sorry I cut you off. 1:43:38.720 --> 1:43:43.120 I wrote I think SNL. We edited a Spin magazine 1:43:44.880 --> 1:43:49.000 and I wrote an article about the end of the 1:43:49.080 --> 1:43:54.240 black super comic is coming because TV was getting more segregated, 1:43:55.520 --> 1:43:59.760 and the black super comic is me. Okay, let's take 1:43:59.800 --> 1:44:01.599 me of it, because that sounds I saw, I saw 1:44:01.680 --> 1:44:06.080 like a cornerback, right. But you know, there's a reason 1:44:06.200 --> 1:44:10.360 Eddie Murphy, Richard pryor all the greatest black comedians, the 1:44:10.560 --> 1:44:13.960 greatest comedians in America tend to be black. It's because 1:44:14.000 --> 1:44:17.479 you had to work these two systems in a world 1:44:17.560 --> 1:44:23.000 that everybody else has to work one. So you're saying 1:44:23.040 --> 1:44:25.800 Sam Cook record in Harlem, which is more blacker than 1:44:25.840 --> 1:44:29.760 the Sam Cook record at the Coppa records come out. Yeah, 1:44:30.080 --> 1:44:32.040 this is the same thing that produced Michael Jackson. And 1:44:32.640 --> 1:44:36.439 like the the fact that you had to work two 1:44:36.520 --> 1:44:40.519 audiences in a world everybody else worked one. It's like, 1:44:40.680 --> 1:44:44.440 how do how can they funk with you? It's impossible. 1:44:45.160 --> 1:44:47.880 Can't funk with a guy that could work the Apollo 1:44:48.400 --> 1:44:52.960 and Carnie Haul. You can't funk with that anyway. But 1:44:53.160 --> 1:44:56.880 the thing is you're talking about two audiences though. But 1:44:57.240 --> 1:45:05.400 I feel like now you specifically, there's there's Brooklyn alternative. 1:45:05.479 --> 1:45:09.680 There's the Brooklyn alternative stuff that I know that you 1:45:09.880 --> 1:45:11.720 love a challenge anywhere. And I always ask you, like, 1:45:11.840 --> 1:45:16.080 would you ever go to night Training? Two weeks ago 1:45:16.600 --> 1:45:19.639 you did night Train? Did night Train? Did? Like? Night Train? 1:45:20.280 --> 1:45:22.680 How do you do? I did? Okay? But I did 1:45:22.760 --> 1:45:25.840 okay because I I haven't been on stage in a while. 1:45:26.280 --> 1:45:29.280 The night train and what is night Train? Just well? Okay? 1:45:29.400 --> 1:45:32.000 So night Train is like again, there's like I feel 1:45:32.000 --> 1:45:35.920 like there's three comedy universes in we're really for because 1:45:35.920 --> 1:45:39.479 I keep taking the black factor out. But for me, 1:45:39.720 --> 1:45:44.800 my observation in New York is that Brooklyn is the 1:45:45.080 --> 1:45:48.599 comic alternative spot. So night Train is a place that's 1:45:48.600 --> 1:45:51.559 where Wyatt would go like that, that's why it spot. 1:45:51.960 --> 1:45:58.160 It's alternative, alternative, hipster comedy spot. Uh. And then you know, 1:45:59.840 --> 1:46:03.880 I feel like in midtown Manhattan between uh, where's the 1:46:03.920 --> 1:46:10.880 spot on Street that people sometimes go, like Amy goes 1:46:10.920 --> 1:46:16.040 there sometimes, but there's there's like a midtown if you're 1:46:16.120 --> 1:46:19.880 midtown to sort of like seventy Street, you might be 1:46:20.040 --> 1:46:23.280 going to you know, you might be doing Vegas, you 1:46:23.400 --> 1:46:27.639 might you're kind of mainstream, but stand well, the stand, 1:46:27.760 --> 1:46:32.160 the stand, but then the comedy seller. I feels like 1:46:32.320 --> 1:46:35.439 the Harvard. I feel like that's the hardest place to penetrate, 1:46:35.920 --> 1:46:38.680 not because of the crowd downstairs, but I feel like 1:46:38.840 --> 1:46:42.960 if you can survive that table on the back where 1:46:43.080 --> 1:46:47.799 He'll sit, where Crys will sit sometimes Dave me Amy 1:46:48.400 --> 1:46:54.320 in Disease, Yeah, it's it's like Shumer Disease, Chappelle, Louis 1:46:54.320 --> 1:46:58.320 c K. But it's like it's the it's the it's 1:46:58.360 --> 1:47:03.360 the it's the constant traded geniuses of comedy that's there. 1:47:03.600 --> 1:47:10.000 That's their witched And I'm always curious, asked you, Chris 1:47:10.120 --> 1:47:12.160 will be like, I don't give. I will go to 1:47:12.360 --> 1:47:15.639 alternative Brooklyn and see if I could work there Chris 1:47:15.760 --> 1:47:18.679 Wall also, you know, try car I mean not saying 1:47:18.720 --> 1:47:20.680 that you would ever do Carolines, but I don't know 1:47:21.520 --> 1:47:25.040 is Carolines like to you what I mean, I'll walk 1:47:25.120 --> 1:47:28.559 I'll walk on. Eric Andre went on. I was doing 1:47:28.600 --> 1:47:31.439 some shows the Caroline. Eric Andre did like a weekend 1:47:31.560 --> 1:47:33.559 or a week at car I would expect eric Andre 1:47:33.680 --> 1:47:36.920 to do the Brooklyn spots right anyway, I opened up 1:47:36.960 --> 1:47:38.439 for him. I like, I would you know I went 1:47:38.520 --> 1:47:44.160 on before one night? Yeah, well not unannounces. Uh. Carolins 1:47:44.200 --> 1:47:47.320 was like the last comedy club I ever played for real, 1:47:47.479 --> 1:47:50.200 like when the Ship was just you know that that 1:47:50.400 --> 1:47:52.960 gig where you, oh ship people are getting hurt. Okay, 1:47:53.120 --> 1:47:57.479 time to go to theaters. But uh wow, okay, I 1:47:57.600 --> 1:48:01.160 just remember right around Bring the Pain. Maybe remember Louis 1:48:01.400 --> 1:48:03.960 who wasn't even my friend at the time, but Louie 1:48:04.080 --> 1:48:07.800 and David Cross, like Janine, all the cool kids showed up. 1:48:08.680 --> 1:48:13.519 It's like, oh okay, so something else happening. What is 1:48:13.600 --> 1:48:19.040 that period between you leaving SNL see before Yeah, it 1:48:19.200 --> 1:48:23.360 was like maybe half a season of Living Color between 1:48:24.080 --> 1:48:27.200 between met and I'm not even saying big gass jokes, 1:48:27.240 --> 1:48:30.120 but more like I just remember a period when you 1:48:30.200 --> 1:48:35.160 started doing the one Hunter, collect commercials and politically correct. Yeah, 1:48:35.200 --> 1:48:38.160 I felt like Chris Rock, Like I stayed working. You 1:48:38.200 --> 1:48:40.720 seem like a different person. Like you. You you cut 1:48:40.760 --> 1:48:43.639 your hair, you had a your preacher's voice was now 1:48:44.280 --> 1:48:47.120 starting to develop, Like it was less about like your 1:48:47.200 --> 1:48:51.519 voice on Born Suspect and your old Chris Rock throwing 1:48:51.560 --> 1:48:53.240 down the mic and all that stuff, Like you were 1:48:53.280 --> 1:48:56.519 now a nuanced I got older. I mean the thing 1:48:56.600 --> 1:49:01.120 with comedians, Comedians are good until they're in their thirties. 1:49:01.960 --> 1:49:05.479 This is not every everything you love about Richard Pryor 1:49:05.600 --> 1:49:09.880 he was thirty eight, forty whatever. Bill. There's no Little 1:49:09.920 --> 1:49:13.760 Wane of comedy. There's no fucking Drake of comedy. Eddie 1:49:13.800 --> 1:49:20.280 Murphy is the only He's the only guy. Literally, if 1:49:20.280 --> 1:49:22.559 you go to your Netflix right now and just start 1:49:22.760 --> 1:49:26.840 clicking through people, you'll you'll find one two year old 1:49:27.000 --> 1:49:33.880 Eddie Murphy. Everybody else's grown. Because you gotta you gotta 1:49:33.920 --> 1:49:37.479 pay taxes to fucking connect to an audience. You gotta 1:49:38.280 --> 1:49:42.240 be you gotta have been loved and unloved and cheated 1:49:42.320 --> 1:49:45.400 on a motherfucking and went broke, and you know what 1:49:45.400 --> 1:49:48.360 I mean, Like you gotta you gotta like you gotta, 1:49:48.720 --> 1:49:53.360 you know, feel the pain of just life and disappointments 1:49:53.760 --> 1:49:56.800 like I'm not who I thought I was and my 1:49:57.080 --> 1:50:02.479 mother ain't who I thought she was. Besides age, I mean, 1:50:02.560 --> 1:50:07.320 besides age, besides age? What and you get older? You 1:50:07.439 --> 1:50:10.519 what made you work? Focused? What made you focus into 1:50:10.920 --> 1:50:17.360 like you know, I mean at that point of my career, honestly, 1:50:17.439 --> 1:50:20.439 I thought I was done as trying to as far 1:50:20.520 --> 1:50:23.759 as getting famous, So you thought, like off the Vegas 1:50:23.800 --> 1:50:27.719 and renown. I thought like, okay, what's his name, George, 1:50:28.080 --> 1:50:32.120 George Wallace, Yeah, like he always works. That was George 1:50:32.520 --> 1:50:35.080 my idol to this day because he's like that was 1:50:35.200 --> 1:50:38.560 my goal. I was like, okay, this whole trying to 1:50:38.600 --> 1:50:41.320 be what does he make a year? I bet you 1:50:41.479 --> 1:50:44.880 makes two billion dollars a year just playing Vegas, playing 1:50:45.000 --> 1:50:51.160 Vegas like city cruise, ship this, like you know, choice gigs. Yeah, 1:50:51.439 --> 1:50:53.559 she's kind of like Jimmy Buffett. I'm gonna get comedy. 1:50:53.600 --> 1:50:55.559 I could be way off, I don't know, but I'm 1:50:55.560 --> 1:50:59.320 gonna get the quality. Like he's every comedian's favorite comedian. 1:50:59.400 --> 1:51:05.479 He's like like a guy so oh he's great. He's 1:51:05.600 --> 1:51:10.559 great as the interviewer. I was asking that he's great. 1:51:10.640 --> 1:51:13.679 I've what he does. He does a thing. It's hard 1:51:13.760 --> 1:51:16.080 to realize what he's doing. It looks easy, that's what 1:51:16.160 --> 1:51:17.479 I want to know, Like, you know what I mean, 1:51:17.560 --> 1:51:19.400 it looks like he's just your uncle and he's just 1:51:19.479 --> 1:51:22.280 coming up with this ship. But George Wallace will come 1:51:22.280 --> 1:51:24.080 in the club and he'll have his pad and that 1:51:24.200 --> 1:51:27.200 motherfucker will try jokes and he writes jokes and sometimes 1:51:27.240 --> 1:51:30.040 he'll buy some jokes and he's like, very serious about 1:51:30.080 --> 1:51:36.080 this by jokes. Yeah, people buy jokes sometimes. Really, have 1:51:36.240 --> 1:51:39.200 you ever had to sling jokes? Like, yo, man, I'm 1:51:39.800 --> 1:51:41.960 next week, I need something about o j I mean, 1:51:42.520 --> 1:51:45.519 you know, I watched people's acts and sometimes I give 1:51:45.600 --> 1:51:48.240 him a line or two or whatever. The fun somebody 1:51:48.240 --> 1:51:49.680 will give me a line. It's like, oh that thing 1:51:49.720 --> 1:51:52.200 you're working on, you know, if you try it this way, 1:51:52.280 --> 1:51:56.040 I mean, you know. And some guys just have jokes 1:51:56.160 --> 1:51:59.000 for sale. Some guys are just writers and they sell jokes. 1:51:59.120 --> 1:52:01.600 But you know, what's the name does that right? The 1:52:01.600 --> 1:52:04.920 guy who does all the roast, doesn't he write Jeff 1:52:04.960 --> 1:52:07.920 je Frost? Yeah, I mean I don't. I'm not one 1:52:07.960 --> 1:52:11.559 of these like you gotta come up with every line. 1:52:12.240 --> 1:52:14.680 You just gotta you know, So, do you have a 1:52:14.840 --> 1:52:19.400 crew or a cabinet of like I like, right now 1:52:20.080 --> 1:52:23.200 I have, I've written I don't know our twenty minutes 1:52:23.240 --> 1:52:27.280 worth of stuff right right? And you know, my tour 1:52:27.439 --> 1:52:33.160 starts February. Wait time he comes here, he's coming to 1:52:33.600 --> 1:52:39.880 tour tour. He's coming to that's next week. Hang one second, alright? 1:52:40.680 --> 1:52:42.639 Started is We're in the third hour of this week's 1:52:42.640 --> 1:52:45.200 episode of Quest of Supreme with our special guest Chris Rock, 1:52:45.800 --> 1:52:49.639 who just let me know that he's about to start 1:52:49.720 --> 1:52:54.680 his tour momentarily. Uh, but yet usually you let me 1:52:54.800 --> 1:52:58.800 know when you're like, well no, no, no, no, no, 1:52:58.920 --> 1:53:00.760 I don't know the huge of the smith. But you 1:53:00.920 --> 1:53:05.920 usually usually towards you know, you do the small spots first, 1:53:05.920 --> 1:53:08.400 and you start sucking around a little bit. I mean, 1:53:08.520 --> 1:53:11.360 this is weird. I've never not heard you, I've never 1:53:11.840 --> 1:53:15.160 seen you wait this long. I've never waited this long. 1:53:15.280 --> 1:53:17.280 I mean, why are you waiting this long? Like my 1:53:17.400 --> 1:53:19.360 last three tours, I was kind of the same guy, 1:53:19.880 --> 1:53:23.960 so the same girl, had the same kids like I 1:53:24.160 --> 1:53:28.519 was my last to three years. Is like, I don't 1:53:28.520 --> 1:53:33.040 know who the funk I am divorced. I got like 1:53:33.320 --> 1:53:35.519 I got custody, I got you know, I got I 1:53:35.600 --> 1:53:41.320 got split custody of my kids. Like so so yeah, 1:53:41.400 --> 1:53:46.080 I got teenage daughters and like I'm really trying to 1:53:46.160 --> 1:53:50.880 figure out who I am. A lot of it's that. Um, 1:53:52.040 --> 1:53:54.960 I'm not scared. I'm gonna work out. I think I'm 1:53:54.960 --> 1:53:57.800 gonna go to Nashville for a few days, like a week. 1:53:58.680 --> 1:54:01.000 Actually have some of my guys have Ali there a 1:54:01.160 --> 1:54:06.920 lance whatever? Uh, same guys. Are you bringing in new blood? 1:54:06.960 --> 1:54:09.400 So I'm gonna bring up some new blood? Uh? I 1:54:09.520 --> 1:54:11.760 think Jack White is going to be involved on some level. 1:54:12.960 --> 1:54:17.679 So a third man record. Uh yo. I really regret 1:54:17.800 --> 1:54:21.800 this whole uh missing that that that that meeting, that 1:54:21.920 --> 1:54:24.760 Stoneheage meeting you guys had at Tip's house because I 1:54:24.840 --> 1:54:27.960 feel like so much business got negotiated night. That was 1:54:28.000 --> 1:54:33.280 a good night. It was like the Tip had a 1:54:33.720 --> 1:54:36.400 what do you call it at their funeral repost pass 1:54:37.680 --> 1:54:40.960 at after five thing. Yeah, but yeah, I mean We're 1:54:40.960 --> 1:54:43.120 at Tip's house a lot. Just I mean when he 1:54:43.240 --> 1:54:45.040 was working on the record, now there's no record. I 1:54:45.080 --> 1:54:47.320 don't know what he's doing now, talked him a little 1:54:47.320 --> 1:54:51.200 bit yesterday, but uh, I feel like one has to 1:54:51.280 --> 1:54:54.360 live in Jersey. I gave my my A and R notes. 1:55:04.280 --> 1:55:06.160 How much of your set is worked out and how 1:55:06.240 --> 1:55:09.480 much it's gonna be kind of I mean it, honestly, 1:55:09.800 --> 1:55:12.440 it's the least amount I've ever had worked out. Ever, 1:55:13.360 --> 1:55:16.600 You're not worried about it, I'm not. It's weird watching 1:55:16.720 --> 1:55:21.120 Dave relaxes me a little bit. Uh Am I worried 1:55:21.160 --> 1:55:23.920 about it. I'm worried about it. I mean, it's put 1:55:24.000 --> 1:55:30.080 his way. Worry is respect. You know. Motherfucker's that don't 1:55:30.120 --> 1:55:35.080 worry about ship, that aren't nervous, don't respect the art. 1:55:35.760 --> 1:55:38.520 I've heard that before. So I'm definitely worried, and I'm 1:55:38.600 --> 1:55:41.280 definitely but I'm carving out the time. I'm carving out 1:55:41.320 --> 1:55:43.840 the time. I'm just, uh, it's just a different me. 1:55:44.120 --> 1:55:47.400 I mean, I'm a father the first, you know, so 1:55:48.880 --> 1:55:51.240 you know I've been with my kids. You know, I 1:55:51.320 --> 1:55:53.440 got my I have my kids this weekend, you know 1:55:53.480 --> 1:55:56.400 what I mean. So I'm not you know, you're still 1:55:56.480 --> 1:55:58.000 like you gotta go pick your kids up after this. 1:55:58.800 --> 1:56:01.120 I drop my daughter off. It's today. I mean, like, 1:56:01.240 --> 1:56:04.000 do you kids know you're Chris Rock or they just 1:56:04.160 --> 1:56:08.440 know like you did the voice over for my oldest 1:56:08.560 --> 1:56:11.000 is realizing because she wants to come with me every 1:56:11.040 --> 1:56:13.120 time I get on stage now. But but she just 1:56:13.240 --> 1:56:15.720 thinks like you get her into cool concerts. Oh yeah, 1:56:15.760 --> 1:56:19.160 that's part of it. Yeah, it's like hey, but they 1:56:19.200 --> 1:56:23.880 have like, like, what's what's bigger? Watch that the kid 1:56:23.960 --> 1:56:26.080 their friends house, I mean what they got their own phones, 1:56:26.240 --> 1:56:29.680 they got YouTube? Would you not punch up your father? 1:56:31.200 --> 1:56:35.000 We had eight videos on YouTube? Of course they've wanted. 1:56:35.120 --> 1:56:38.000 But what's the ratio to dad? And oh ship, we're 1:56:38.040 --> 1:56:43.440 being raised by an A list celebrity. It's they know 1:56:43.680 --> 1:56:48.920 not yet, yeah, because we'll know you're no, I'm already 1:56:49.120 --> 1:56:54.040 Bruno Manis will be involved. I've already been informed that 1:56:55.760 --> 1:56:58.800 I gotta figure out Bruno mars Is. Whereabouts of my daughters? 1:56:59.280 --> 1:57:04.600 Howld uh fift be fifteen and thirteen? So how you 1:57:04.640 --> 1:57:08.040 doing keeping him off the pole? Yeah, they're off, They're saying, 1:57:08.080 --> 1:57:11.560 I think they're safely off to pol You can tell 1:57:11.640 --> 1:57:15.600 these things early, like like athletics. You know, you know 1:57:15.680 --> 1:57:17.480 if your kids going in the major leagues by the 1:57:17.600 --> 1:57:20.240 time he's twelve. You know, if your daughters on the 1:57:20.320 --> 1:57:23.800 pole by the time it's about fourteen. Okay, we're out 1:57:23.840 --> 1:57:26.840 of the water here. You're good, You're good. But where 1:57:26.880 --> 1:57:29.960 were we? Where were we? Uh? Yeah, I'm just uh 1:57:30.360 --> 1:57:33.000 get ready to get on. I'm just trying to figure 1:57:33.000 --> 1:57:35.160 out where I'm gonna go to work out. So I 1:57:35.240 --> 1:57:37.400 may go to Nashville. There's a part of me I 1:57:37.400 --> 1:57:39.840 wants to go to Baltimore. So I always make sure 1:57:40.640 --> 1:57:42.800 before I go on tour, I spend like a week 1:57:42.920 --> 1:57:46.040 in someplace really white, getting on stage in a place 1:57:46.160 --> 1:57:52.120 someplace really black. Are there black comedy clubs? Oh? Yes, 1:57:52.160 --> 1:58:00.480 there are where Atlanta, Detroit, um Mobile, Alabama. Uh, you know, 1:58:00.520 --> 1:58:03.720 there's some spots. There's definitely some spots. Just you know, 1:58:04.800 --> 1:58:08.080 spot Earthquake plays twice a year. You know, good wet 1:58:08.080 --> 1:58:12.240 earthquake this week, and of all Crawford's the next week. 1:58:12.440 --> 1:58:16.400 And you know what I mean, Joe Tories come into town. 1:58:16.560 --> 1:58:20.080 You know in Top five, the whole the jazz d character, 1:58:20.200 --> 1:58:24.440 you know with was that actually a part of your career? 1:58:24.520 --> 1:58:26.280 Did you play those little clubs like that? Yeah, that 1:58:26.360 --> 1:58:30.280 really happened. The whole story actually happened. That happened, mother, 1:58:30.720 --> 1:58:37.960 motherfucking man. In Houston, Another Town jazz d damn it, 1:58:38.640 --> 1:58:42.280 but e Cedric knocked that ship out the park. Why 1:58:42.320 --> 1:58:45.080 do you think that movie? Because that was I mean, 1:58:45.160 --> 1:58:47.640 that's my favorite of your movies and the other ones 1:58:47.720 --> 1:58:51.200 I liked. But you know, when you were talking about 1:58:51.280 --> 1:58:53.800 kind of finding I guess maybe finding your way in movies, 1:58:54.200 --> 1:58:56.000 like you would kill it on stage, But a lot 1:58:56.040 --> 1:58:58.440 of times in the early stuff, the humor that you 1:58:58.520 --> 1:59:01.560 had on stage, it didn't translate to the movies. What 1:59:01.840 --> 1:59:04.040 was it about Top five that made that kind of 1:59:04.640 --> 1:59:09.600 like where it all kind of galvanized. It's a it's weird. 1:59:09.640 --> 1:59:11.640 Top Five is a lot like Bring the Pain. It 1:59:11.800 --> 1:59:15.040 was like a guy just trying to be good. Like 1:59:15.400 --> 1:59:17.320 everything before Bring the Pain was a guy trying to 1:59:17.360 --> 1:59:20.880 be famous, and like the other movies I made, it 1:59:21.000 --> 1:59:22.400 was like it was it was almost like I was 1:59:22.480 --> 1:59:24.640 making my own version of Adam Sailor movies in a 1:59:24.720 --> 1:59:28.280 weird way because he's my friend and his movies are big. 1:59:29.040 --> 1:59:31.240 So I was like following another blueprint, and I was 1:59:31.320 --> 1:59:35.080 just like I was thinking about a one sheet. So 1:59:35.240 --> 1:59:37.560 it started with I think I love my wife probably, 1:59:37.880 --> 1:59:40.760 but like I had to stay down to earth and 1:59:41.880 --> 1:59:44.240 whatever else was just kind of me. Look, okay, this 1:59:44.400 --> 1:59:46.880 is a good poster and these are good jokes for 1:59:46.960 --> 1:59:49.960 a trailer, and I wasn't really thinking about a movie 1:59:50.160 --> 1:59:54.760 per se, and you know, uh yeah, I was just 1:59:55.640 --> 1:59:58.080 on some bullshit trying to get a hit. Still like 1:59:58.840 --> 2:00:01.000 still liked to stand. I said, it's got some good ship. 2:00:02.360 --> 2:00:05.560 But but with Top five and I think I Love 2:00:05.640 --> 2:00:08.920 my wife, was just like, Okay, I'm just making I'm 2:00:09.040 --> 2:00:11.440 making what I want to make. I don't really care 2:00:12.160 --> 2:00:13.560 if it's a I would like it to be a 2:00:13.600 --> 2:00:16.320 big hit, but I really I'm really more about and 2:00:16.360 --> 2:00:20.000 I've really got into to being a filmmaker too. Well 2:00:20.000 --> 2:00:23.720 I was I didn't even care about filmmaking in those 2:00:23.760 --> 2:00:27.360 other movies. I was just Top five was just the 2:00:27.480 --> 2:00:29.520 thing I wanted to say at that moment. I wasn't. 2:00:30.760 --> 2:00:32.440 I never thought it would be a hit. Put it 2:00:32.560 --> 2:00:34.520 that way, What did your wife think of I think 2:00:34.560 --> 2:00:40.760 I love my wife? Well we're divorced now, So I 2:00:40.880 --> 2:00:42.760 made it in a weird movie because at the end 2:00:42.800 --> 2:00:46.600 he does go to his wife. So I mean, hey, man, 2:00:47.920 --> 2:00:50.600 was like for life, like that changed my life. I mean, 2:00:50.720 --> 2:00:53.640 Quentin Tarantino said something a long time ago. He said 2:00:53.760 --> 2:00:56.080 when you make a piece of art, if there aren't 2:00:56.120 --> 2:00:58.880 people in your life that are mad at you afterwards, 2:00:59.000 --> 2:01:03.040 you didn't make good ship it. You didn't go deep enough. 2:01:04.080 --> 2:01:06.960 She wasn't even mad. She wasn't even mad, because the 2:01:07.760 --> 2:01:10.920 sentiment was, I mean, it makes you look I mean again, 2:01:11.200 --> 2:01:16.280 I'm divorced me. I didn't want to make your I 2:01:16.360 --> 2:01:19.080 didn't want to make your your your divorced part of 2:01:19.120 --> 2:01:23.280 the your career discussion. But since we're here in hindsight, 2:01:24.840 --> 2:01:27.920 because I mean, after nineties six you became Did you 2:01:27.960 --> 2:01:31.000 get married before after I got married in nine? I 2:01:31.080 --> 2:01:34.000 think I think were you guys got married during Bring 2:01:34.120 --> 2:01:35.920 the Pain? Like we got married after Bring the Pain? 2:01:36.000 --> 2:01:39.080 I think now like I could afford a wedding after 2:01:39.160 --> 2:01:44.880 that in hindsight, and I guess we could pretty much 2:01:44.880 --> 2:01:49.560 say that ninety six was the turning point of you 2:01:50.080 --> 2:01:55.520 really black culture, reasonable doubt Bring the Pain. Jay z 2:01:55.680 --> 2:02:03.120 One his opus affected the culture more than my opus. 2:02:03.320 --> 2:02:08.920 Yes you think so, and we're not. We're not kissing 2:02:08.960 --> 2:02:11.120 your ass because there's a venue as a rapper. It 2:02:11.240 --> 2:02:17.120 didn't not. Here's the thing, now, that's that's the forgetting 2:02:17.120 --> 2:02:20.960 the references and rap songs all the time Grand Opening 2:02:21.120 --> 2:02:26.040 Grand Club the other day. But the thing is, Reasonable 2:02:26.080 --> 2:02:29.320 Doubt is also one of those albums that you were 2:02:29.440 --> 2:02:33.440 told it was a classic exactly. I don't remember being mad. No, 2:02:33.800 --> 2:02:36.800 nobody was bumping reasons doubt when we had fucking ghost Face, 2:02:36.880 --> 2:02:40.600 red Man and goddamn uh A t Aliens. I didn't. 2:02:40.720 --> 2:02:42.720 I didn't hear Reasonable Doubt until after I knew moved 2:02:42.720 --> 2:02:47.080 to New York. That that was. It was almost ten 2:02:47.160 --> 2:02:49.760 years after. Yeah, I was like, like it came out 2:02:49.800 --> 2:02:51.520 and I remember I was like, Okay, this is good, 2:02:51.680 --> 2:02:55.720 but I'm saying the the impact of Bring the Pain 2:02:57.560 --> 2:03:01.840 on HBO it was I think madic moments. And we 2:03:02.000 --> 2:03:06.320 rewound it recorded, watched it over study that ship. Not 2:03:06.520 --> 2:03:09.760 my teachers in school. We're talking about Bringing the Pain 2:03:09.880 --> 2:03:12.560 like in home room, like before the bell ring, like 2:03:12.760 --> 2:03:16.400 they would be joking. I think you don't think there 2:03:16.480 --> 2:03:23.600 might not be Yeah, I don't think there's nine hundred 2:03:23.600 --> 2:03:26.600 million dollars in your bank account. And you know, Beyonce, 2:03:26.840 --> 2:03:31.480 but you won that. It was a weird. It was 2:03:31.480 --> 2:03:34.040 a great year, some great black art cave ab out 2:03:34.880 --> 2:03:38.000 and uh and that was when you got married around 2:03:38.440 --> 2:03:41.160 it was. It was. It was a want to say hayes, 2:03:41.360 --> 2:03:43.200 but it was it was a world when a lot 2:03:43.240 --> 2:03:45.040 of ship was going on. But what I'm asking is 2:03:45.960 --> 2:03:49.600 at the point where you're not that you planned on, 2:03:51.000 --> 2:03:55.240 you know, suddenly having this meteoric rise in in this 2:03:55.400 --> 2:03:58.160 od ship moment happened in your life. But this is 2:03:58.160 --> 2:04:01.240 the moment where you becoming the industry. But this is 2:04:01.320 --> 2:04:03.720 also the same time that you're deciding to become a 2:04:03.840 --> 2:04:07.640 husband and future father. And I always believe that you 2:04:07.720 --> 2:04:11.000 couldn't serve two guys. You're either gonna be a super 2:04:11.120 --> 2:04:13.920 industry or you're gonna be a family. That's what most 2:04:13.960 --> 2:04:15.760 guys do. I mean, I think most men marry when 2:04:15.800 --> 2:04:17.120 we're at the top of our game, you know what 2:04:17.160 --> 2:04:19.600 I'm saying, Like we marry at that time in our career, 2:04:19.680 --> 2:04:21.920 but we feel like like I think the women is 2:04:21.920 --> 2:04:23.600 the other way around. It's like they get love and 2:04:23.680 --> 2:04:25.440 then think, Okay, now I have love, so now I 2:04:25.520 --> 2:04:27.520 can go and do whatever. But for us, it's like 2:04:27.800 --> 2:04:29.840 I gotta get my peace of the world before I 2:04:29.920 --> 2:04:32.360 can have love, because love calls like I gotta have 2:04:33.200 --> 2:04:34.760 I gotta baby to ford this stuff. Let know, you 2:04:34.880 --> 2:04:37.000 just said, like I gotta afford I could afford the weddings. 2:04:37.040 --> 2:04:40.040 So it's like for us, we gotta get ours first. 2:04:40.120 --> 2:04:42.000 So I'm just saying, how hard is it to be? 2:04:43.000 --> 2:04:46.720 You know? Are you if Selt is calling your phone 2:04:47.080 --> 2:04:51.800 at PM, she's like you better not pick. I mean 2:04:53.440 --> 2:04:58.520 she was good. I mean, I dude, my output from 2:04:58.640 --> 2:05:03.080 nineties six to probably you know whatever two thousand three 2:05:03.120 --> 2:05:07.640 until my first daughter is ridiculous. I wrote movies, I 2:05:07.720 --> 2:05:12.040 wrote books, or she understood that she was very good. 2:05:12.120 --> 2:05:14.800 I can't sit there and you know, I wrote movies, 2:05:14.840 --> 2:05:18.080 I wrote books, I made albums, I toured, I did 2:05:18.120 --> 2:05:22.800 a lot of ship. So you know, hey, I guess 2:05:22.920 --> 2:05:25.520 you know, probably could have been better if I spent 2:05:25.600 --> 2:05:29.080 more time at whatever. But I had to do what 2:05:29.120 --> 2:05:30.640 I had to do. I had to get my prints on. 2:05:32.320 --> 2:05:35.320 So did a TV show I didn't, you know, I 2:05:35.400 --> 2:05:38.520 produced Everybody Hates Chris. I did a lot of ship, man, 2:05:38.840 --> 2:05:40.680 I know. But that's what I'm saying, Like you can 2:05:40.800 --> 2:05:47.360 either industry or have the resume of an eight eight 2:05:47.480 --> 2:05:54.160 year old person. But he did not because he did 2:05:57.000 --> 2:06:01.960 a long time. And you know what, my last because 2:06:01.960 --> 2:06:09.480 like Hamilton's, will not last as long as my marriage. Okay, yeah, 2:06:09.640 --> 2:06:11.240 you know, I'm trying to make, you know, put things 2:06:11.280 --> 2:06:14.720 in a positive spin, kids, because I made it ninety 2:06:15.040 --> 2:06:18.720 to just close to twenty years close to yeah, so yeah, 2:06:18.800 --> 2:06:23.000 that's you know. I mean, hey it is yeah, okay, 2:06:24.960 --> 2:06:31.880 and I made it and you put us together. Like 2:06:32.000 --> 2:06:35.040 I'm just saying. I mean, I got great kids, all good, 2:06:35.160 --> 2:06:40.200 everybody's everybody's fine now, so as long as you're happy. 2:06:40.280 --> 2:06:42.520 So I guess at the end, everyone to do it? 2:06:43.400 --> 2:06:45.840 What are you asking this question based on yourself about 2:06:48.200 --> 2:06:50.480 it can be done, but only I can do it. 2:06:52.160 --> 2:06:55.680 My reps will destroy and maybe Edie because he had 2:06:55.720 --> 2:06:58.760 like ten kids too, I mean with the same woman. 2:06:58.840 --> 2:07:05.000 Well to you know, did you see that new family 2:07:05.040 --> 2:07:10.160 photo Jesus Christ. I didn't realize he had. Just to 2:07:10.240 --> 2:07:13.520 see them all together. It's like, I mean, here's the 2:07:13.560 --> 2:07:20.160 Wootank clan and the Jackson's like, yeah, he raised his 2:07:20.240 --> 2:07:26.840 own industry. That's crazy. Um So all right, I guess 2:07:26.880 --> 2:07:29.240 at this last moments I have with you, I just 2:07:29.360 --> 2:07:31.640 want to shoot the ship. What is your top five? 2:07:31.920 --> 2:07:40.160 Top five rappers changes all the time? Jay Z, Kanye Uh, 2:07:41.400 --> 2:07:44.160 have you you thought about this because he's even when 2:07:44.200 --> 2:07:47.800 people it's like we're not in the park anymore. He 2:07:47.840 --> 2:07:49.320 made a movie about this. Let me, let me, let 2:07:49.360 --> 2:07:53.440 me say something to everybody's top five, We're not in 2:07:53.520 --> 2:07:59.040 the park. This isn't fucking Mr Magic's not add anymore. 2:07:59.400 --> 2:08:02.080 You're not listen and see this shift on cassette. Your 2:08:02.120 --> 2:08:09.880 top five is top five record makers. You're talking songs here, right, Okay, 2:08:10.040 --> 2:08:12.960 that's what we're talking about. We're not. I mean, you 2:08:13.000 --> 2:08:15.560 want to say top five words, I can read off 2:08:15.600 --> 2:08:20.800 a piece of papers separate. But when I when I say, yo, 2:08:21.640 --> 2:08:26.640 rappers that make records and and we're judging them like 2:08:26.760 --> 2:08:32.040 running back, So you're judging four years. Okay, you're judging 2:08:32.120 --> 2:08:35.120 four years if you don't have four albums, I don't 2:08:35.160 --> 2:08:38.680 really I can't put you in my top five, you know. 2:08:38.800 --> 2:08:40.320 And by the way, just changes all the time. But 2:08:40.400 --> 2:08:43.000 now I did the record after I did the movie. 2:08:43.040 --> 2:08:44.800 It's like, man, people ask me this all the time. 2:08:45.800 --> 2:08:49.440 Who's main albums that I like? If? It's almost like 2:08:49.480 --> 2:08:51.240 who would you like to see make a record with 2:08:51.400 --> 2:08:59.040 Dr Dre right? Now you know what I mean, like 2:08:59.520 --> 2:09:03.360 like for to produce, like who would you rather? I 2:09:03.560 --> 2:09:06.320 gotta go? I like jay Z knows how to make 2:09:06.360 --> 2:09:11.680 a motherfucking song. Kanye West is a bad, motherfucker interesting 2:09:11.800 --> 2:09:15.600 as fuck, only rapper in the history of the game 2:09:16.040 --> 2:09:19.960 with the mystique. Rappers are like comedians. They are who 2:09:20.080 --> 2:09:25.360 they are. It's like there's nothing mysterious about him. Kanye 2:09:25.560 --> 2:09:28.600 is the only one. Okay, you don't think about any 2:09:28.680 --> 2:09:32.800 other rapper like that. You just don't, don't. You don't 2:09:32.880 --> 2:09:35.960 give a funk about you know, their relationships and all 2:09:36.040 --> 2:09:38.520 this ship it was amber Rose is just you don't 2:09:38.560 --> 2:09:41.800 think about anybody like that except one guy. Speaking of which, 2:09:41.960 --> 2:09:46.680 did you freestyle that whole ship on the name blame Game? 2:09:46.840 --> 2:09:49.640 I freestyled it? But how does that work? He just 2:09:49.640 --> 2:09:53.120 says he made me do. I was in a booth, 2:09:53.440 --> 2:09:57.680 I don't know, a couple hours, three hours. Maybe he 2:09:57.760 --> 2:10:00.560 was producing me for real of him. First, I was 2:10:00.640 --> 2:10:03.200 hanging around a lot. Again, I'm good at hanging around, 2:10:03.640 --> 2:10:05.920 so I was your because I would never be allowed 2:10:05.960 --> 2:10:08.800 to hang around, So I got to hang around. Got 2:10:08.880 --> 2:10:12.120 to hang around Electric Ladyland a couple of times while 2:10:12.160 --> 2:10:14.400 he was doing the record. So I think I was 2:10:14.440 --> 2:10:18.520 around for Monster and a couple other songs, right, And 2:10:19.680 --> 2:10:21.480 I don't know, he just you know, text me one day, 2:10:21.720 --> 2:10:26.680 come in. We did it at that studio right next 2:10:26.720 --> 2:10:33.400 to be Smith's, the one studio. Anyway, he had me 2:10:33.480 --> 2:10:35.280 in the booth I'm gonna say about three hours and 2:10:35.320 --> 2:10:40.120 he kept shouting instructions to me, how about this, how 2:10:40.120 --> 2:10:43.840 about that? And then he took all the ship and 2:10:44.120 --> 2:10:46.800 edited it and then I get a text. We got 2:10:46.880 --> 2:10:49.760 a classic and that was and he played it for me, 2:10:50.000 --> 2:10:53.360 and I was like, oh my god, because I didn't 2:10:53.440 --> 2:10:57.160 hear when I did it. It wasn't to music. It 2:10:57.320 --> 2:11:00.840 was I believe it was just to or I didn't 2:11:00.840 --> 2:11:03.400 hear any of the words. So maybe there was a 2:11:03.440 --> 2:11:06.520 little music, but there were no all that John legend 2:11:06.720 --> 2:11:09.840 and all that stuff wasn't on it together. And he 2:11:09.880 --> 2:11:11.360 put it together. So and then he played and I 2:11:11.480 --> 2:11:14.680 was like, oh my god, this is amazing. And I 2:11:14.720 --> 2:11:20.760 don't know if I remember sitting with him and my 2:11:20.880 --> 2:11:23.240 own you know, me and my bullshit A and R. 2:11:23.720 --> 2:11:25.720 And I told him the album has to end on 2:11:26.320 --> 2:11:29.160 Who's survive in America? Who's the vive in America? Is like, 2:11:29.480 --> 2:11:34.040 that's the end of the fucking record. Really. He put 2:11:34.120 --> 2:11:36.000 some bonus after that, but he ended it right there. 2:11:36.000 --> 2:11:37.760 I don't know, I'm not gonna say I get all 2:11:37.800 --> 2:11:40.400 the credit for that, but I definitely told him that 2:11:40.520 --> 2:11:45.120 it's like nigga, this is it? Who will Who will 2:11:45.200 --> 2:11:48.000 survive in America? Is the last thing I need to hear. 2:11:48.920 --> 2:11:52.360 This is the mic drop. Uh You ever hear the 2:11:52.440 --> 2:11:58.800 album the Ghetto Boys Resurrection album with the single game 2:11:58.880 --> 2:12:02.040 to put Me Down? One might have been Ghetto Boys 2:12:02.080 --> 2:12:04.840 and Girls, one of the great rap albums ever made. 2:12:05.240 --> 2:12:08.720 In the last line of Resurrection is Willie Dee going, 2:12:09.320 --> 2:12:12.200 I'm a type of nigga, throw a party, win the flag, burn, 2:12:12.760 --> 2:12:15.080 I'm at the point in overturn. That's the end of 2:12:15.120 --> 2:12:23.240 the fucking record. Man, Yo, you love filler hip hop 2:12:23.360 --> 2:12:27.920 like you go beyond. Just because this ship ain't a 2:12:28.000 --> 2:12:30.760 hit doesn't mean it wasn't great. So sometimes there's some 2:12:30.840 --> 2:12:33.360 ship in it. So I remember I told Kande that, 2:12:34.280 --> 2:12:36.680 and and I got from a good source that he 2:12:36.800 --> 2:12:39.280 listened to it after I left, listen to it in 2:12:39.320 --> 2:12:55.120 front of me him and Jay. Have you ever seen 2:12:55.200 --> 2:12:57.200 amber Rose after this, kid? I have seen that. I 2:12:57.320 --> 2:13:00.720 met her at some store on out of the avenue 2:13:00.720 --> 2:13:03.040 and I took a picture. She's you know, you guys 2:13:03.120 --> 2:13:06.040 just never talked about that. I love her. Oh my god, 2:13:06.760 --> 2:13:08.200 you ever see like this? You ever see like those 2:13:08.280 --> 2:13:12.000 movies where like a guy like he's got magical powers, 2:13:12.680 --> 2:13:15.680 but whenever he uses them, like if I use it 2:13:15.800 --> 2:13:18.720 right now, it's gonna kill me and it saves the world. 2:13:19.480 --> 2:13:21.360 Like that's what it would take for me to give 2:13:21.440 --> 2:13:25.280 Amber Rose a proper fucking like. It would like I 2:13:25.360 --> 2:13:32.720 would be from stranger things. You know, everything would happen, 2:13:33.480 --> 2:13:35.760 I would get I would make a come, but yeah, 2:13:35.800 --> 2:13:42.120 I would be fucked up for a long time. I 2:13:42.240 --> 2:13:45.080 make a come, but I'd be fucked up for a while. 2:13:46.400 --> 2:13:57.960 I'll be no good for anybody's ad motherfucker girl who tough? Five? Okay? 2:13:59.080 --> 2:14:04.680 Jay z Nye. The popular guys, uh Snoop Dogg More 2:14:04.760 --> 2:14:08.919 popular guys. You show me, You showed me a motherfucker 2:14:08.960 --> 2:14:14.080 that got ten records. You you show me you have 2:14:14.200 --> 2:14:16.560 a show right now, you do your rock the bells 2:14:16.680 --> 2:14:18.840 or whatever the fuck, And you show me who's gonna 2:14:18.920 --> 2:14:24.640 follow Snoop Doggie dog? Who who Snoop is like? No 2:14:24.760 --> 2:14:27.000 Snoop is like law and order, like everyone knows that 2:14:29.240 --> 2:14:34.760 everybody And the motherfucker's ridiculous live when he comes out 2:14:35.080 --> 2:14:37.760 when he got the real bass player playing murder was 2:14:37.800 --> 2:14:40.440 the case. And this nigger got his braids out and 2:14:40.560 --> 2:14:44.040 his hands blowing in the motherfucking win and their motherfucker's 2:14:44.840 --> 2:14:47.880 as I looked to the sky and you're like, oh ship, 2:14:48.600 --> 2:14:51.320 and you're like, this motherfucker is really six feet tall. 2:14:51.720 --> 2:14:54.520 He's really a fucking rock star. You can't funk with 2:14:54.640 --> 2:15:03.400 that nigger. You're that you can't fucking anything or anything. 2:15:04.480 --> 2:15:07.600 He's one of the greatest of all time. Um two 2:15:07.640 --> 2:15:12.200 and three, two and three, four and five, I mean, 2:15:12.240 --> 2:15:14.920 I got you know I can be he named three 2:15:16.480 --> 2:15:21.400 five just on that ship, just like yo, you can't 2:15:21.440 --> 2:15:26.040 funk with these motherfucker's. Man, You know, this tribe ship 2:15:26.240 --> 2:15:29.560 is for real, man, this ship, you know, que Tip 2:15:29.760 --> 2:15:32.600 is on some other ship. Now, don't get me wrong, 2:15:32.720 --> 2:15:36.960 Fife God rested, you know whatever. It's some other ship too. 2:15:37.240 --> 2:15:39.000 They were they were not. He wasn't like a one 2:15:39.120 --> 2:15:43.800 man band, que Tip. But goddamn it, those records again. 2:15:44.320 --> 2:15:47.560 You can go ten in a row and be like, 2:15:47.880 --> 2:15:54.520 everybody's happy, everybody's happy, could the hood's happy, Your mom's 2:15:54.640 --> 2:15:57.280 is happy. You know what I mean? You know, I 2:15:57.360 --> 2:15:59.960 mean the Trap crew is happy. In the Steve Harvey 2:16:00.040 --> 2:16:05.200 crew is happy at that is not too many mcs 2:16:05.240 --> 2:16:13.280 that could do that, right, And you know, and you know, Okay, 2:16:13.320 --> 2:16:14.840 she's only got one album, so I'm not going to 2:16:14.920 --> 2:16:19.280 say her, but who was her? No, No, Lauren Hills. 2:16:20.440 --> 2:16:23.720 Lauren Hills a better rapper then. I mean, she's a 2:16:23.800 --> 2:16:28.480 better rapper than Kanye or a lot of people. But 2:16:28.720 --> 2:16:31.200 you know, you gotta you know, you gotta have a 2:16:31.280 --> 2:16:33.119 body of work. You gotta have a body of work. 2:16:33.600 --> 2:16:37.440 You know. All this other ship, Um, that ghost Face 2:16:37.760 --> 2:16:43.320 is a motherfucker. He's my favorite routanger. I mean, you know, 2:16:43.560 --> 2:16:45.160 I was like O. D B. And I was like 2:16:45.400 --> 2:16:48.480 meth and whatever like everybody else. But nigga, you gotta work. 2:16:50.800 --> 2:16:54.800 You gotta work, hey man, Tony Starks puts out a 2:16:54.879 --> 2:17:00.440 record every you fucking six you know whatever six days 2:17:00.560 --> 2:17:04.800 does a Tony Starts record, And that ship's fucking great. 2:17:05.720 --> 2:17:08.560 Speaking of Top five, because it just hit me now 2:17:09.080 --> 2:17:15.440 and the irony couple mentioned ice Cube is the is 2:17:15.480 --> 2:17:19.960 the irony lost on you? Speaking of Top five? That 2:17:21.320 --> 2:17:27.040 uh the Media movie and Birth of a Nation were 2:17:27.160 --> 2:17:32.520 released in the same October week as what You predicted 2:17:32.600 --> 2:17:37.440 in the movie and have the same outcome. Um has 2:17:37.520 --> 2:17:39.680 that irony been lost. Here's the thing. When you talk 2:17:39.760 --> 2:17:42.280 about like schizophrenic people talk about ship like that, you know, 2:17:42.320 --> 2:17:46.560 I mean like happy is the irony lost on you? 2:17:46.800 --> 2:17:49.720 That it's not lost on me. You predicted that ship, 2:17:50.160 --> 2:17:52.160 it's not lost on me. It's not lost on me. 2:17:52.280 --> 2:17:55.199 That I essentially came up with the idea for Tyler 2:17:55.280 --> 2:18:02.120 Perry's biggest movie in a decade. Uh, Like down to 2:18:02.240 --> 2:18:07.240 the cover art Jesus really yeah, say what the sink 2:18:07.280 --> 2:18:10.160 a cover? And like the Birth of the Nation. It's 2:18:10.240 --> 2:18:13.040 like that saying with him holding the well that Yeah, 2:18:14.200 --> 2:18:17.360 that's even crazier. Yeah, that's all the same stuff. I 2:18:17.440 --> 2:18:19.800 don't know, man, it's weird. My agents were like, we 2:18:19.879 --> 2:18:22.520 gotta sue Tyler. I was like, I'm not suing Tyler. Pair. 2:18:22.600 --> 2:18:26.560 I don't want to that. I don't want does he 2:18:26.680 --> 2:18:31.320 even know? I mean he says, he said, Okay, what 2:18:31.400 --> 2:18:40.800 else you got? He called me up, I'm almost out 2:18:40.840 --> 2:18:44.000 of wait before you go tell me a prince story. 2:18:45.000 --> 2:18:47.760 I don't have a great prince story, honestly. I mean, 2:18:48.840 --> 2:18:51.680 he's one of those guys that he liked me. I 2:18:51.840 --> 2:18:56.080 loved him. I always pushed back, honestly because I always 2:18:56.120 --> 2:18:59.600 figured it can only get bad. I always figured, like 2:18:59.760 --> 2:19:02.480 I'm I don't want to funk up my access. I 2:19:02.600 --> 2:19:05.280 just like those moments hanging around him. The longer you 2:19:05.400 --> 2:19:07.520 hung around on, the more he became like a normal person. 2:19:08.600 --> 2:19:10.280 So I used to love it when you know, when 2:19:10.320 --> 2:19:15.440 you'd have like a spaghetti stain, I didn't know it, 2:19:18.480 --> 2:19:23.039 purple spaghett It's like he's good. Look at that sucking 2:19:23.200 --> 2:19:29.600 stain on his sucking lime green space suit. I remember 2:19:29.840 --> 2:19:31.800 so funny. I remember him calling me up one night 2:19:32.320 --> 2:19:34.959 and uh, so as I've read all the ship that's 2:19:34.959 --> 2:19:38.520 coming out right now and right before was coming two thousands, 2:19:39.000 --> 2:19:42.120 and him Prince telling me to did I need to 2:19:42.240 --> 2:19:46.360 change all my money in the goal because thanks and all, 2:19:46.400 --> 2:19:49.800 this ship wasn't gonna be working. You read he had 2:19:52.240 --> 2:19:59.360 so yeah, and like five million in cash. And I 2:19:59.360 --> 2:20:01.320 remember one he wanted me to go on tour with him, 2:20:01.560 --> 2:20:05.280 and I turned it down because I turned him down 2:20:05.400 --> 2:20:08.920 because he was the promoter and I just didn't want 2:20:09.160 --> 2:20:12.840 Prince coming up to me one night saying, look yeah, 2:20:15.560 --> 2:20:21.000 like uh with a Chris Rock print show. I don't know. 2:20:21.280 --> 2:20:23.480 I just didn't. I don't want to put this l 2:20:23.560 --> 2:20:25.480 in that position, and we trust him as a promoter 2:20:26.200 --> 2:20:30.000 this this would have been yeah, yeah, so yeah, you wouldn't. 2:20:32.200 --> 2:20:37.160 It was like emancipatient, He's doing everything himself. I was like, yeah, 2:20:37.200 --> 2:20:39.000 he was playing for his ass at that point. That 2:20:39.080 --> 2:20:40.440 sit down in You and Prince, I think it was 2:20:40.520 --> 2:20:43.199 v H one still one of the best Prince interviews. 2:20:43.520 --> 2:20:45.959 Like ever, Yeah, when you got him to say about 2:20:45.959 --> 2:20:47.600 the whole bad thing. I think that was the first 2:20:47.600 --> 2:20:50.720 time he never publicly commented on Yeah yo, but is 2:20:50.760 --> 2:20:56.640 mine imagine me saying, ah, yeah, man, man whatever, I 2:20:56.720 --> 2:21:02.359 don't do a good Prince but uh, alright, well, Michael 2:21:02.680 --> 2:21:05.959 jack I'm gonna have Have you ever met Michael Jackson? Um, 2:21:06.520 --> 2:21:11.080 I was around him. I didn't properly meet him meet him. No, No, 2:21:11.360 --> 2:21:13.480 I do have a one story of meeting him. Here's 2:21:13.560 --> 2:21:15.959 like at first, I was around him for the What's 2:21:16.000 --> 2:21:27.040 Up with You? Video? Remember this is the moment for 2:21:30.320 --> 2:21:36.560 we've been waiting for. So I was around. I was 2:21:36.640 --> 2:21:40.040 around for the What's Up with You? Video? And so 2:21:40.320 --> 2:21:42.480 I didn't get a chance to talk talk to him 2:21:42.560 --> 2:21:44.720 like that. That was a v I P section that 2:21:45.040 --> 2:21:48.160 I knew not to even walk near. But I got 2:21:48.240 --> 2:21:52.959 to watch so Eddie brought the crew with him something. 2:21:53.120 --> 2:21:55.640 But I got a call from Michael Jackson when I 2:21:55.760 --> 2:21:58.640 first time I hosted the Oscars. You know, Michael Jackson 2:21:58.680 --> 2:22:01.480 always film ship all the time time in movies and 2:22:01.560 --> 2:22:03.720 had crew people. Anyway, one of the crew guys gave 2:22:03.760 --> 2:22:06.920 me a fucking phone and it was Michael Jackson wishing 2:22:06.959 --> 2:22:09.120 me a good show. That would have messed up my 2:22:09.240 --> 2:22:13.120 night that he called that night, that day or whatever, 2:22:13.200 --> 2:22:15.920 like dooring, like dress or whatever. Wait, I just realized 2:22:15.920 --> 2:22:18.119 there's a whole suit of questions. I still didn't ask, 2:22:18.560 --> 2:22:22.680 like is that pressure, Like do you want to I 2:22:22.959 --> 2:22:26.280 was hosting to ask us I want to, I want times, 2:22:26.320 --> 2:22:30.680 I want this to be better than everyone else's. But hey, Chris, 2:22:30.800 --> 2:22:33.959 you're the hindsight revisionist. I always tell people it doesn't 2:22:34.480 --> 2:22:36.560 you can't control if it's a hint, but you can 2:22:36.640 --> 2:22:39.880 always be good. It's good. No. But the thing is 2:22:40.000 --> 2:22:42.160 is that you could say now after the fact, that 2:22:42.560 --> 2:22:45.600 you know, I was cool in Cucumber. But if you're 2:22:45.600 --> 2:22:49.160 getting called from Michael Jackson, good luck, which essentially the 2:22:49.320 --> 2:22:52.200 nice guy version of don't sunk up? Now, how do 2:22:52.320 --> 2:22:55.200 you feeling? By too fast? Honestly, I mean, I think 2:22:55.240 --> 2:22:57.560 that the BT Awards was more impressure. The fact that 2:22:57.680 --> 2:22:59.920 you wanted to do that shocked the ship out of me. 2:23:00.160 --> 2:23:03.360 I did want to do it because it is risky, 2:23:03.680 --> 2:23:07.120 but you know what happens. It's easier. Oscar b T 2:23:07.280 --> 2:23:11.440 Wards Oscars are easier than be T Awards. Just put 2:23:11.520 --> 2:23:15.760 it away and no disresprised. People liked what I did 2:23:15.800 --> 2:23:18.960 at the Oscars. But if thirty other people had hosted 2:23:19.040 --> 2:23:21.040 the show, they could have done a good job, you 2:23:21.080 --> 2:23:23.240 know what I mean? But I love Billy Crystal. Billy 2:23:23.240 --> 2:23:25.840 Crystal would have came out there last year. He would 2:23:25.840 --> 2:23:29.040 have annihilated the Oscars. He would have been great and 2:23:29.080 --> 2:23:32.119 everybody been happy. Because you can't do the b teal 2:23:32.200 --> 2:23:38.240 Wards if he didn't be amazing, you know what I mean, 2:23:38.400 --> 2:23:42.280 like like you, I mean like you Grant or without 2:23:42.320 --> 2:23:45.000 you Grant, but you know you, Jackman could have done it. 2:23:45.000 --> 2:23:49.760 If you can't do the fucking b teal Wards. More 2:23:49.840 --> 2:23:55.480 nerve reckon this lastscar like they do amigo joke? Was 2:23:55.520 --> 2:23:57.960 it more nerve reckon this time? Because I mean it 2:23:58.040 --> 2:24:00.080 wasn't your first, but it was like everybody was on 2:24:00.280 --> 2:24:02.600 you this Oscar so white year. It was you know what, 2:24:02.720 --> 2:24:05.240 this was like one of those happy accidents. Man, I 2:24:05.360 --> 2:24:07.280 agreed to host a show. None of this stuff. It 2:24:07.320 --> 2:24:12.080 even broke out yet, I was just like initially wasn't no, 2:24:12.280 --> 2:24:16.480 that was two years ago. I was, you know, I 2:24:17.440 --> 2:24:19.840 I don't know. I just had nothing going on. I was. 2:24:21.000 --> 2:24:23.880 I spent a year, you know, trying not to try 2:24:23.959 --> 2:24:25.600 not to talk about my personal life. But I was 2:24:25.680 --> 2:24:28.240 in divorce court so much like I was just so 2:24:28.959 --> 2:24:31.640 and a fog, so nothing like I didn't have a 2:24:31.720 --> 2:24:34.320 script or anything. It was like, Okay, let me host this. 2:24:35.879 --> 2:24:39.760 Let me host this, because it's hard to you know, 2:24:40.280 --> 2:24:43.080 custody and all this ship going on. So it's hard 2:24:43.120 --> 2:24:45.520 to do a movie. It's hard to do a TV show. 2:24:45.560 --> 2:24:50.000 It's hard to do anything. Oscars like honestly like a 2:24:50.160 --> 2:24:53.800 three week commitment. It's more if you want to put 2:24:53.840 --> 2:24:55.920 in more. But I knew I could do it, so 2:24:56.720 --> 2:25:01.080 I said yeah, because I was so busy, get whatever. 2:25:02.320 --> 2:25:06.000 Uh that if I didn't do something, I was gonna risk. 2:25:06.280 --> 2:25:09.440 It's very easy to be to not if you're not 2:25:09.560 --> 2:25:11.960 like a movie star or have a TV show. It's 2:25:12.160 --> 2:25:15.200 really easy to not be seen for a couple of years, 2:25:17.480 --> 2:25:19.200 you know, what I mean, like, you gotta be very 2:25:19.400 --> 2:25:22.480 strategic about this ship if you're not on a show. 2:25:23.840 --> 2:25:26.960 So I figured, if I do the Oscars, it's like, okay, 2:25:28.440 --> 2:25:32.480 that's that's me for night, that's me for two thousand sixteen. 2:25:33.280 --> 2:25:36.000 This is a different Oscars. This is so that was 2:25:36.080 --> 2:25:38.280 the decision to do it, and nothing to do with 2:25:38.360 --> 2:25:42.039 anything else. So just like okay, and then the nominations 2:25:42.080 --> 2:25:45.600 come out and there's no blacks, and now it's like, 2:25:46.640 --> 2:25:51.600 you know, it's the most important thing. I got essence 2:25:51.680 --> 2:25:53.680 cover I never got before, you know what I mean, 2:25:54.640 --> 2:25:56.840 twenty years and show, you know what I mean. Like 2:25:56.959 --> 2:26:04.680 I was like, yes, suddenly I was another cat. So um, yeah, 2:26:04.720 --> 2:26:06.160 it was a lot of pressure. It was a lot 2:26:06.200 --> 2:26:07.959 of pressure, but it was fun. It was fun, man, 2:26:08.720 --> 2:26:11.280 it was fun. I had It was the best time 2:26:11.320 --> 2:26:14.960 I've ever had hosted the show. Are there any other challenges? Like, 2:26:15.120 --> 2:26:17.400 I know the last tour you went to other countries, 2:26:17.520 --> 2:26:21.360 which besides Billy Crystal. I know now everybody does it, 2:26:21.440 --> 2:26:25.039 but yeah, that was the big I left my manager 2:26:26.240 --> 2:26:30.840 over that. Over you didn't want to go I wanted 2:26:30.879 --> 2:26:34.640 to play other I was just like, okay, you know 2:26:34.720 --> 2:26:37.720 everybody has this saying black acts don't work here, there 2:26:37.840 --> 2:26:41.560 or whatever, and I was like, I can't keep playing Philly. 2:26:41.840 --> 2:26:43.840 This is like I want to be the best in 2:26:43.920 --> 2:26:48.400 the world. That means playing the world. You know, I 2:26:48.520 --> 2:26:52.480 can figure it out, so I thought. And with the 2:26:52.600 --> 2:26:56.120 arslot of the internet, like everything, no one had done it, 2:26:56.200 --> 2:26:57.879 no one had really done it. It was like an 2:26:57.920 --> 2:27:01.440 occasional show here or there, but no one had really toured, 2:27:01.520 --> 2:27:04.840 no comedian had really toured, toured outside of the country. 2:27:05.959 --> 2:27:08.840 And it worked out, you know, thank god for YouTube, 2:27:08.879 --> 2:27:13.360 I guess. I mean, I went my initial first time 2:27:13.400 --> 2:27:16.120 in London. I thought I'd play like six hundred seats, 2:27:17.320 --> 2:27:22.320 played ninety, you know, you know, over weeks and weeks 2:27:22.360 --> 2:27:25.000 of doing shows, and you know, you know, if fu 2:27:25.080 --> 2:27:31.920 can do Obama, fucking you know, Victory Lap pretty much 2:27:31.959 --> 2:27:35.200 broke the record in most countries. A lot of it 2:27:35.520 --> 2:27:37.400 was a lot and a lot of it was word 2:27:37.480 --> 2:27:39.800 of mouth. A lot of it was like one show 2:27:40.640 --> 2:27:43.160 sold out or two and then people liking the show 2:27:43.360 --> 2:27:46.760 so much that it just kept rolling into other things. 2:27:46.879 --> 2:27:49.200 How many shows were in London, I don't know how 2:27:49.240 --> 2:27:53.320 many shows Chris Rock shows. It was like we'll do 2:27:53.480 --> 2:27:56.920 two and there's five more, then there's five more, and 2:27:56.959 --> 2:28:02.000 then yes, okay, let's oh fuck, there's too many for 2:28:02.120 --> 2:28:03.520 the hammer style. Let's see if we can do that. 2:28:03.640 --> 2:28:05.680 Let's do the O two. Oh, the old two sold 2:28:05.720 --> 2:28:07.800 out in a day. Let's do another like it was, 2:28:08.000 --> 2:28:11.080 like it was, And do you prepare it to her 2:28:11.160 --> 2:28:14.879 like a rock star? Like do you do it every 2:28:14.920 --> 2:28:16.760 other night? Because I know, like you used up a 2:28:16.800 --> 2:28:20.400 register of your voice, Like what happens if you have 2:28:20.440 --> 2:28:23.120 a cold or your horse it fucked, your fucked. I 2:28:23.120 --> 2:28:24.800 mean you gotta when you get off stage, you drink 2:28:24.840 --> 2:28:27.359 your tea, You try to talk as little as possible. 2:28:27.959 --> 2:28:32.840 You you try to watch what you do even on stage. Um, 2:28:33.560 --> 2:28:36.680 I mean I got, I got pipes like a metal singer. Yeah. 2:28:36.720 --> 2:28:39.120 I was about to say, you are, like, yeah, I 2:28:39.360 --> 2:28:41.960 got when I when I did the play years ago. 2:28:42.640 --> 2:28:47.360 The motherfucker, the hack, uh, the whole experience. I was 2:28:47.440 --> 2:28:49.800 the low man on the totem pole, the whole experience. 2:28:49.840 --> 2:28:53.760 I was the rookie right through rehearsals and blocking and everything. 2:28:53.920 --> 2:28:59.360 Right the moment we got to the stage, I was 2:28:59.440 --> 2:29:04.440 you couldn't with me because you projected yeah, every yeah, 2:29:04.480 --> 2:29:05.960 every I was the only one that didn't have to 2:29:06.240 --> 2:29:08.560 have a doctor and get vitam and B twelve shots 2:29:08.640 --> 2:29:13.080 and whatever for my voice because I played fifty thousand people. 2:29:13.360 --> 2:29:18.760 Playing a thousand wasn't anything you know when you were going, 2:29:19.000 --> 2:29:21.120 uh and traveling to other countries, was there anything in 2:29:21.160 --> 2:29:23.040 your act that you had to kind of change or 2:29:23.120 --> 2:29:26.600 tailor to fit that country? Pop culture? Do you have 2:29:26.680 --> 2:29:29.080 someone look changes from town to town? I mean you 2:29:29.760 --> 2:29:33.680 you do a thing like okay, what's what's your Walmart? 2:29:34.800 --> 2:29:39.279 What's your flat? With references? So who's the prime minister, 2:29:39.400 --> 2:29:42.640 who's the president, who's the Okay? This is there a 2:29:42.720 --> 2:29:44.760 researcher who does that for you? Let you know I 2:29:44.879 --> 2:29:48.000 do it or you know Alan Leads would do it. Uh, 2:29:48.680 --> 2:29:52.160 you know this a Rod joke is now Ronaldo joke. 2:29:52.440 --> 2:29:55.640 You know what I mean? Like you do those things, 2:29:56.640 --> 2:30:00.560 but um, but and you have to just change that stuff. 2:30:02.360 --> 2:30:05.240 The jokes with that talk about men and women to 2:30:05.360 --> 2:30:11.680 change shit. Men and women are mad and happy about 2:30:11.680 --> 2:30:16.400 the exact same things all over the world. There's no 2:30:16.640 --> 2:30:24.400 the relationship dynamics don't change anywhere. So lastly, all your script, 2:30:25.280 --> 2:30:27.920 what's what's your what's your pin game? Into like what's 2:30:28.560 --> 2:30:31.360 I'm working on a script. I can't really describe it 2:30:31.520 --> 2:30:33.280 right now. Well now I want you to describe it, 2:30:33.400 --> 2:30:36.760 but you are, you know, I'm working. I'm working. I'm 2:30:36.760 --> 2:30:39.360 trying to get my man from Atlanta to help me 2:30:39.360 --> 2:30:44.359 out a little bit. Uh, I'm working on something. Hopefully 2:30:44.440 --> 2:30:48.600 I can finish it before the tours over and uh, 2:30:49.240 --> 2:30:52.240 you know, get back into directing. The Top five opened 2:30:52.280 --> 2:30:54.880 some doors for you. And that Top five I get 2:30:54.920 --> 2:30:58.320 a lot of offers to direct, um offers producing, Like, 2:30:58.360 --> 2:31:01.080 you know, people took me serious, Like okay, yeah, I 2:31:01.160 --> 2:31:06.200 feel like like another situation. You're you're you know, and 2:31:06.680 --> 2:31:09.240 it's like the third movie I directed, so it's like, okay, 2:31:10.280 --> 2:31:12.800 some filmmakers takes a while. Hopefully, you know, I got 2:31:12.920 --> 2:31:15.600 to do it again. Honestly, like David ol Russell's first 2:31:17.000 --> 2:31:20.480 it wasn't David d Russell out the box or even 2:31:20.760 --> 2:31:22.480 you know, and I shouldn't compare myself to him, but 2:31:22.520 --> 2:31:26.720 I'm just saying people artists grow. You know, the second 2:31:26.760 --> 2:31:31.280 Fuji's album, you know, it's a big jump. It's the 2:31:31.480 --> 2:31:35.240 second Nirvana album. It's the big jump. So you know, 2:31:35.320 --> 2:31:37.800 I got a big jump in my third movie, and 2:31:37.879 --> 2:31:42.120 hopefully it'll you know, I don't take for granted and 2:31:42.520 --> 2:31:45.480 fucking you know how much of that was autobiographical in 2:31:45.600 --> 2:31:48.080 terms of the struggle in the character in the movies 2:31:48.280 --> 2:31:51.480 and struggle was alcohol? Was that personal or was it 2:31:52.680 --> 2:31:56.200 a struggle? Wasn't alcohol with me? I mean a little bit, 2:31:56.280 --> 2:31:59.680 but not to the extent The struggle with me was 2:31:59.760 --> 2:32:05.320 just Pardian. Struggle with me was girls. Honestly, do you 2:32:05.440 --> 2:32:09.520 know that was like Okay, I could fuck so and so, 2:32:09.840 --> 2:32:12.600 or I can get on stage. You know, I can 2:32:13.879 --> 2:32:19.960 juggling fucking six chicks and you know that's six conversations, 2:32:20.680 --> 2:32:23.800 that's six complaints. That's like, you know, I mean, that's 2:32:23.840 --> 2:32:27.280 like you know, I mean, that's you know, that's like 2:32:27.360 --> 2:32:34.240 being a manager of a sucking Arby's and ship my shift. 2:32:34.640 --> 2:32:38.480 How can I get like it's like literally yeah, just 2:32:38.640 --> 2:32:41.520 like okay, let me get that part done with. All right? Well, 2:32:41.640 --> 2:32:47.320 Mr Rock, I know this was painful for you. I 2:32:47.400 --> 2:32:49.760 gotta figure out a three hour three ever to ask 2:32:49.840 --> 2:33:03.000 you are you don't? And before we go, I just 2:33:03.080 --> 2:33:04.840 want to say, man, you are the reason I drive 2:33:04.840 --> 2:33:09.360 in ultimate from the from the thing you did. I 2:33:09.360 --> 2:33:10.840 think it's on MTV you talk about how you like 2:33:10.920 --> 2:33:17.320 to steal that I think. Yeah, like I drove an 2:33:17.400 --> 2:33:19.000 ultimate and I was like, you know what I'm about. 2:33:19.200 --> 2:33:21.480 That was the whole Jokey, that's one of those things 2:33:21.560 --> 2:33:22.959 they said, you want to do it. I said, only 2:33:23.040 --> 2:33:26.000 if I could make it funny. You did it. And now, 2:33:26.200 --> 2:33:28.640 like even on the top of you're talking about you 2:33:28.720 --> 2:33:31.480 being like a private I'm currently living out one of 2:33:31.560 --> 2:33:33.879 your jokes because I just bought a house and I'm 2:33:33.959 --> 2:33:36.600 like one of only of the three black families. Like 2:33:36.680 --> 2:33:38.800 in the whole joint, the guy that used to own 2:33:38.879 --> 2:33:45.360 the house was the dentist. There you go where it was, Well, sir, 2:33:45.840 --> 2:33:49.640 I thank you, and I'm certain that you'll make me 2:33:49.760 --> 2:33:53.160 pay for this somehow. I will. I will. I'm staying 2:33:53.200 --> 2:33:56.320 in town, so if anything's going on later, let me know. 2:33:56.360 --> 2:33:59.119 I gotta go by. You're not gonna go by two 2:33:59.240 --> 2:34:02.320 or close. Nice, You're not gonna do it any mury, 2:34:02.440 --> 2:34:04.400 just go to mom by the red I found out 2:34:04.480 --> 2:34:07.360 that he didn't have an outfit, he didn't have an 2:34:07.400 --> 2:34:11.360 outfit and figure out he didn't have an outfit for 2:34:11.520 --> 2:34:13.200 delirious and just went to the mom and saw the 2:34:13.320 --> 2:34:16.160 leather suit inside of him. It's not even a suit. 2:34:16.360 --> 2:34:22.000 They're like, he already had the pants. Of course it's 2:34:22.080 --> 2:34:24.320 not even a suit. They don't even match. Oh wait, 2:34:24.440 --> 2:34:26.800 you don't. You don't have a wardrobe present. I do, 2:34:27.040 --> 2:34:29.959 but sometimes you just want to walked through. And let's 2:34:29.959 --> 2:34:32.920 gonna say, dare I introduced him to the crazy Words Steve. 2:34:33.680 --> 2:34:37.440 Oh never mind, anyway, Thank you very much, Chris Rock. 2:34:38.680 --> 2:34:40.800 We appreciate you coming on this show. This Question of 2:34:40.920 --> 2:34:53.920 Supreme will be back with more reflections. Reflections like what 2:34:54.000 --> 2:34:56.520 did you learn? I learned that if Chris Rock everyone 2:34:56.520 --> 2:34:59.080 wants to quit comedy, he will be the most amazing 2:34:59.240 --> 2:35:02.560 a and r like for real, or at least the 2:35:02.640 --> 2:35:07.280 most opinionated and I mean not nine problem story can't 2:35:07.280 --> 2:35:10.200 be denied like that. That ship was real? Right he? Yeah? He? 2:35:10.600 --> 2:35:14.199 I'm telling you he has a tendency too. I thought 2:35:14.280 --> 2:35:19.560 I liked filler and non relevant rap stuff, but he 2:35:19.840 --> 2:35:23.160 loves filler and just you know, he goes beyond a 2:35:23.240 --> 2:35:26.960 person's Oh you know what else? I learned what my 2:35:27.280 --> 2:35:34.080 raps will destroy you next? Alright, man, I learned that 2:35:34.280 --> 2:35:37.160 Chris Rock is um And I'm not just saying that, 2:35:37.360 --> 2:35:40.680 you know he's here, but he is my favorite comedian. 2:35:41.320 --> 2:35:44.520 Like favorite. I mean he he had been for years, 2:35:44.680 --> 2:35:47.160 but just uh, sitting here and talking to him and 2:35:47.240 --> 2:35:49.760 just the way he discusses like his personal life and uh, 2:35:50.320 --> 2:35:52.560 you know, just discussing the journey of like going through 2:35:52.560 --> 2:35:55.080 a divorce and how you you know, losing that year 2:35:55.840 --> 2:35:58.800 and all of that, what that entails. And you know 2:35:58.879 --> 2:36:01.480 the thing that he said about how if you're not 2:36:01.640 --> 2:36:03.360 on the TV, if you're not a movie star, if 2:36:03.400 --> 2:36:06.480 you're not on TV, years can go by without motherfucker 2:36:06.560 --> 2:36:08.720 seeing you. You know what I'm saying, And like that 2:36:08.840 --> 2:36:12.840 ship is real. So that man listen, you know what 2:36:12.840 --> 2:36:18.080 I mean. So for him, he's just real, Like people 2:36:18.120 --> 2:36:20.360 won't recognize you. That people she came back and nobody 2:36:20.400 --> 2:36:28.000 kne who I was just shut up. But now he's 2:36:28.040 --> 2:36:30.720 just he's just all around. It's just a real dude. 2:36:30.879 --> 2:36:32.920 And um, he's definitely a person. That ship he said 2:36:32.920 --> 2:36:37.880 about not being with people like what we're saying, like 2:36:38.120 --> 2:36:42.560 being untalented and sexually transmitted, that ship is fucking true. 2:36:42.680 --> 2:36:46.520 Like there has been sexual opportunities I have passed down 2:36:46.680 --> 2:36:49.720 because I didn't think that much of a person's art, 2:36:50.080 --> 2:36:52.120 not not even wrong crewe, Like I just didn't think 2:36:52.959 --> 2:36:56.320 the art that that girl made was whatever. So it's 2:36:56.360 --> 2:37:00.600 just like, yeah, like I don't wanna you know, you know, 2:37:00.760 --> 2:37:03.240 I don't want you, you know, to make this vagin 2:37:03.320 --> 2:37:06.760 of decision and I can't support your art, like I 2:37:06.840 --> 2:37:09.080 feel that would be disingenuous, you know what I mean, 2:37:09.240 --> 2:37:12.280 Like I can't do that. People think of pim they 2:37:12.320 --> 2:37:16.640 got no feelings, but the pimp got feeling. I wouldn't 2:37:16.640 --> 2:37:18.959 do that to her. So but yeah, but that's real man. 2:37:19.000 --> 2:37:21.400 So he's just a super relatable dude. Man. Still my 2:37:21.680 --> 2:37:24.360 still my top number one. Okay, you guys told me, 2:37:24.920 --> 2:37:26.640 someone told me that I don't know how to take 2:37:26.680 --> 2:37:31.400 a compliment. Uh. I actually felt honored that, you know, 2:37:31.600 --> 2:37:34.400 when he said I don't hang around untalented people. Has 2:37:34.400 --> 2:37:38.879 around you wait on each other. I'm telling you, oh, man, 2:37:38.959 --> 2:37:42.320 he really likes my talent. You know. I appreciate that. 2:37:43.320 --> 2:37:46.200 Chris is the dude that, like, when you're stagging it 2:37:46.360 --> 2:37:50.120 in one particular area of your life and then it's 2:37:50.280 --> 2:37:56.200 it's a sudden um, it's an upsurge, you know. I'll say, like, 2:37:56.280 --> 2:37:58.280 in the last five years, things have definitely changed for 2:37:58.400 --> 2:38:03.000 me and dealing with family members and all that stuff. 2:38:03.120 --> 2:38:06.000 Like you know, you don't know how to deal with 2:38:06.080 --> 2:38:09.000 it because you just think that you know, you're gonna 2:38:09.080 --> 2:38:12.959 be a a starving artist or a broke artist or whatever, 2:38:13.080 --> 2:38:16.120 like a struggling artists or whatever the case is. And 2:38:16.959 --> 2:38:19.920 so he was really there to let me know, like 2:38:22.320 --> 2:38:24.920 to get he was the he was the magical negro 2:38:25.800 --> 2:38:27.000 they see, the one that he was kind of like 2:38:27.040 --> 2:38:31.200 your rich nigger whisperer knew that you knew your nigger 2:38:31.280 --> 2:38:34.200 whisper Like, yeah, he seems to do that with a 2:38:34.240 --> 2:38:36.800 lot of people, though now he does. Like his first 2:38:36.879 --> 2:38:39.520 thing was he was like, he's like, all right, you're 2:38:39.520 --> 2:38:41.400 gonna meet me here tomorrow. I was like, why where 2:38:41.400 --> 2:38:43.480 are we going? He's like, We're going to a not 2:38:43.600 --> 2:38:46.039 a tea party, like we're going to a cocktail party. 2:38:46.040 --> 2:38:47.600 And I was like, why would I want to go there? 2:38:48.040 --> 2:38:50.640 He says, because you never know the day that you're 2:38:50.640 --> 2:38:54.800 gonna need to borrow sixty dollars so you could develop something. 2:38:55.800 --> 2:38:58.600 And I was like, huh, Like he just he just know. 2:38:58.800 --> 2:39:00.760 It was like for real, like now you have to 2:39:00.840 --> 2:39:02.680 take that and you have to do I went to 2:39:02.760 --> 2:39:04.520 this thing with him. We shook a bunch of hands, 2:39:04.560 --> 2:39:08.280 a bunch of old rich people. You now have to 2:39:08.320 --> 2:39:10.440 be Chris Rock at some point and pass the baton 2:39:10.600 --> 2:39:13.039 do the same thing mentoring. That's great. Yeah, it's called 2:39:13.120 --> 2:39:19.000 Ques Love Supreme only on Pandora only. You know how 2:39:19.080 --> 2:39:20.640 much stuff I've learned on this show that I actually 2:39:20.680 --> 2:39:23.879 like applied to my everyday life now straight up, straight 2:39:23.959 --> 2:39:29.120 up anyway, Yeah, he taught me a lot. So I'm 2:39:29.280 --> 2:39:32.920 very grateful that he did the show. Bill Um. So yeah, 2:39:33.320 --> 2:39:35.520 the whole him being the secret A and R or 2:39:35.560 --> 2:39:38.959 whatever behind the um the jay Z ninety nine problems 2:39:39.160 --> 2:39:41.040 and like we were talking when we were on break, like, 2:39:41.320 --> 2:39:42.960 can you imagine what it would be like if jay 2:39:43.040 --> 2:39:48.400 Z picked problems that it would be amazing. I actually 2:39:48.440 --> 2:39:50.840 kind of want to hear that. So, j if you're 2:39:50.879 --> 2:39:53.520 listening to get a table, I think it might be 2:39:53.560 --> 2:39:56.720 time to revisit that. And I learned one more thing, 2:39:56.879 --> 2:40:03.119 one more thing. My wraps will destroy you, will destroy 2:40:03.200 --> 2:40:06.960 you where you learn. Um. He kept going back to 2:40:07.920 --> 2:40:12.600 his ability, um, and you know, his his ability and 2:40:12.959 --> 2:40:16.120 the value of of blending in being being able to 2:40:16.160 --> 2:40:20.160 hang with anybody. And uh, I feel I've made a 2:40:20.200 --> 2:40:22.920 bit of a career of that myself. I'm not laughing. 2:40:23.440 --> 2:40:26.080 But now I cannot wait for the day we get 2:40:26.120 --> 2:40:29.840 carrerass one on this shear. I know our intro is 2:40:29.879 --> 2:40:35.480 going to be nothing but my wraps. I'm sorry Steve 2:40:35.600 --> 2:40:38.920 far for interrupted go it. Um. Yeah, his his his 2:40:39.040 --> 2:40:41.520 thing about blending in and um, being able to hang 2:40:41.640 --> 2:40:44.640 with all sorts of different crowds and people, and the 2:40:44.760 --> 2:40:48.280 value and that and that it's a skill, and um, 2:40:48.800 --> 2:40:51.680 I can vouch for it, I think to some extent. Also, 2:40:51.840 --> 2:40:55.680 I thought it was cool, um, because you and I 2:40:55.760 --> 2:40:59.480 are always making the comparison between musicians and comedians and 2:41:00.120 --> 2:41:05.840 saying all the similarities between the two different trades, and um, 2:41:05.959 --> 2:41:11.800 he mentioned a major difference, Um, that musicians can can 2:41:11.879 --> 2:41:15.040 work on continue to play their old material, you know, 2:41:15.200 --> 2:41:17.280 and that's actually what the audience wants to hear most 2:41:17.320 --> 2:41:19.320 of the time, is the the old songs and the 2:41:19.400 --> 2:41:23.280 hits and so forth, and and comedians have to come 2:41:23.360 --> 2:41:27.520 with the with the new stuff in order to So 2:41:27.640 --> 2:41:30.280 I thought that was cool that you know, this sort 2:41:30.280 --> 2:41:33.360 of major difference between those two things which we don't 2:41:33.400 --> 2:41:35.840 think about. We always think about the similarities. And I 2:41:35.920 --> 2:41:39.200 also got to mention that X in front of nat X, 2:41:39.240 --> 2:41:44.640 which was really so awesome, remember that time you didn't 2:41:46.440 --> 2:41:52.480 that's really cool. Alright, alright, Bill bill Um. I used 2:41:52.480 --> 2:41:54.720 to open a lot for comedians back in the day, 2:41:54.800 --> 2:41:57.000 and I remember being backstage and they're being like the 2:41:57.080 --> 2:42:00.080 most introverted, angry folks at Freestyle loves the premu U 2:42:00.120 --> 2:42:01.880 to open for a lot of comedians because we were 2:42:01.879 --> 2:42:04.959 a comedy thing in in you know, in Edinburgh at 2:42:05.000 --> 2:42:07.680 the fringe anyway, there's just really introverted dudes. And you 2:42:07.760 --> 2:42:09.200 were like and made me not want to hang out 2:42:09.200 --> 2:42:11.280 with comedians. And so Chris Rock very much changed that 2:42:11.320 --> 2:42:13.360 because he's just he was not He's not like that 2:42:13.440 --> 2:42:16.520 at all, and he's he's yeah, I would say so 2:42:16.760 --> 2:42:18.440 like they were. You know, when your job is to 2:42:18.480 --> 2:42:20.199 try to make people laugh all the time, I feel 2:42:20.240 --> 2:42:21.800 like the rest of the time you're just like a 2:42:22.040 --> 2:42:24.600 sad dick. And then this wasn't like that at all. 2:42:24.760 --> 2:42:27.520 I like that. And how about that divorce can really, 2:42:27.600 --> 2:42:30.000 you know, change a person, right, So there's like there's 2:42:30.040 --> 2:42:32.120 the highs of Chris Rock's life and there's the loads 2:42:32.160 --> 2:42:35.120 and it's all some ship and yeah, the look of 2:42:35.160 --> 2:42:40.960 acknowledgement on Fonte's face, I don't like you kind of 2:42:41.000 --> 2:42:46.320 like can't really do together. I mean pretty much more 2:42:46.400 --> 2:42:49.880 than all right, what do you do? Building Fonte? What 2:42:49.959 --> 2:42:52.960 are you two going to feel? Betrade, like four years 2:42:53.000 --> 2:42:56.600 from now when you're like, all right, I've never getting 2:42:56.600 --> 2:42:58.440 married again. Are you getting married? I'm never getting married again. 2:42:58.440 --> 2:43:00.120 I know that. I'll a would say I would say this, 2:43:00.400 --> 2:43:02.800 will I will say this, You're definitely getting married again. 2:43:03.000 --> 2:43:05.199 Everyone says that, why do you say that? Okay, okay, 2:43:05.240 --> 2:43:06.920 this is why they say. This is why they say it. No, 2:43:07.000 --> 2:43:10.560 that's why they're saying. This is your haircuts made a marriage. 2:43:14.280 --> 2:43:27.359 People can't haircut for marriage. My raps were made destroy 2:43:27.520 --> 2:43:30.840 you my nikka Bill Sherman got the number two on 2:43:30.959 --> 2:43:39.520 the Fantastic Sam Shaw. Alright, your account, go ahead. Okay, 2:43:39.600 --> 2:43:41.120 this is why I was, I would say, because this 2:43:41.160 --> 2:43:43.160 is as a person that had said that I would 2:43:43.200 --> 2:43:46.199 never do it again, and I want to do it again. 2:43:46.520 --> 2:43:48.760 All right. It's a couple of things, all right. First 2:43:48.800 --> 2:43:52.240 thing is that you got to realize that there are 2:43:52.600 --> 2:43:54.920 like a common threads that run through all marriages, but 2:43:55.040 --> 2:43:57.600 sometimes you can just be with the wrong person, you 2:43:57.720 --> 2:43:59.840 know what I'm saying. And for me, I just know 2:44:00.160 --> 2:44:03.240 in my marriage that was just the wrong person, you 2:44:03.280 --> 2:44:04.960 know what I mean, and so and and not even 2:44:05.040 --> 2:44:07.000 putting it on her because we cool now. But for me, 2:44:07.240 --> 2:44:10.480 the person I was when I got married was not 2:44:10.640 --> 2:44:12.720 ready to be married, Like you know what I'm saying. 2:44:13.120 --> 2:44:15.240 So it's like if you eat if you've never eaten 2:44:15.280 --> 2:44:17.840 beef before, and somebody make you a cheeseburger and it's 2:44:17.879 --> 2:44:20.320 just fucked up, and you taste that, you like, I 2:44:20.440 --> 2:44:23.520 hate cheeseburger. It's like, no, it ain't that all cheeseburgers 2:44:23.600 --> 2:44:27.240 sucked up cheeseburger. I was gonna say, But you're s 2:44:28.680 --> 2:44:30.680 when you were at the altar. When you were at 2:44:30.720 --> 2:44:35.080 the altar, was there a point when you're like a ship? 2:44:35.560 --> 2:44:39.840 Maybe not? You caught up in the moment you couldn't 2:44:39.879 --> 2:44:43.880 wait to frank you beverly amazing. No, it wasn't. I 2:44:44.000 --> 2:44:45.840 never had a moment where I thought, like ship. It 2:44:45.920 --> 2:44:47.920 wasn't that. I mean, I think you you know, I 2:44:48.200 --> 2:44:52.400 was all long before that first Oh when I realized 2:44:52.400 --> 2:44:54.880 I sucked up? Right, Oh, now I realized I sucked 2:44:54.959 --> 2:44:59.560 up like within the first the first year, you know 2:44:59.560 --> 2:45:03.520 what I mean, Maybe like the first someone shows you 2:45:03.560 --> 2:45:06.200 who they really are. Yeah, that shows you who they 2:45:06.240 --> 2:45:08.480 really are. And I mean and even beyond that again, 2:45:08.560 --> 2:45:11.680 I mean like it really just depends on who you are. 2:45:11.720 --> 2:45:14.280 And I just speak specifically as as as men. You 2:45:14.320 --> 2:45:15.760 know what I'm saying, just talking to them, man like, 2:45:16.200 --> 2:45:18.400 it really depends on us. It depends on it's not 2:45:18.480 --> 2:45:19.800 so much. And it is the part that like women, 2:45:19.840 --> 2:45:21.960 they don't like to talk about. It's like when a 2:45:22.000 --> 2:45:23.879 man decides to get married, like we're saying with Chris, 2:45:24.200 --> 2:45:26.040 it's at the top of your game. It's when we 2:45:26.160 --> 2:45:27.600 at the top. So it's like, it really ain't got 2:45:27.600 --> 2:45:29.840 ship to do with her. It's got to do with 2:45:29.959 --> 2:45:32.960 who you are, you know what I mean. You know, 2:45:33.000 --> 2:45:35.280 it ain't got nothing to do with you know, with who, 2:45:36.360 --> 2:45:37.480 and it ain't got nothing to do with who you 2:45:37.840 --> 2:45:41.320 who she is. She could be like the greatest mothercker ever, 2:45:41.480 --> 2:45:44.800 like cook, clean, big ass, facted, whatever you like. But 2:45:44.959 --> 2:45:52.960 if you ain't big, I mean, you know, whatever you like, Yeah, 2:45:53.080 --> 2:45:54.920 if you have all that, but if you ain't ready 2:45:54.959 --> 2:45:56.520 for that, and then it don't matter what she got. 2:45:56.840 --> 2:46:00.720 What I'm saying the first three big you feel me. 2:46:00.840 --> 2:46:03.640 So we're just saying, so we say intelligence because that's 2:46:03.680 --> 2:46:07.760 what they want to hear and talent STDs what whatever 2:46:08.600 --> 2:46:13.360 talent is sexually transmitted sexually transmitted untalentedness. That's fucking scary. 2:46:13.720 --> 2:46:15.240 But now, so I would say that boss Bill, I 2:46:15.280 --> 2:46:17.840 mean unpaid Bill. I think you know you you're feeling 2:46:17.879 --> 2:46:21.040 it that now because you fresh out of it. You 2:46:21.040 --> 2:46:22.920 want to get mad, and I ain't you still going 2:46:22.959 --> 2:46:26.240 through your divorce, like you're still going through the aftermath, 2:46:26.320 --> 2:46:29.040 like you still got like your thousand yards still of divorce. 2:46:29.600 --> 2:46:31.240 You know what I'm saying, because that ship is fucking 2:46:31.320 --> 2:46:35.120 traumatic at this point. And I have the right hair, 2:46:35.240 --> 2:46:39.240 so I'll be fantastic, you know, fine, Fine, And I 2:46:39.280 --> 2:46:41.360 would saying I don't know saying this because I was 2:46:41.440 --> 2:46:43.240 the guy that before I was like fun this, I 2:46:43.320 --> 2:46:45.120 never do I never do it again. And I kind 2:46:45.160 --> 2:46:47.160 of had to eat some humble pie once I decided 2:46:47.160 --> 2:46:49.480 to do it. But it's a process, and you know 2:46:49.640 --> 2:46:51.520 you you work through it and you may decide to 2:46:51.560 --> 2:46:53.520 do it, you may not. But if nothing else, I 2:46:53.600 --> 2:46:57.120 think that your heart will soften once you make it 2:46:57.240 --> 2:46:59.039 out of this joint. Like you gotta treat you gotta 2:46:59.040 --> 2:47:01.039 treat the vorce like PT is D Like you really 2:47:01.040 --> 2:47:03.640 got to treat that ship like you've been through something 2:47:03.760 --> 2:47:10.360 many so many abbreviations, STDs, ptsd s. It's all yeah, 2:47:10.360 --> 2:47:11.840 you gotta yeah, you gotta treat it like that. You 2:47:11.879 --> 2:47:14.119 gotta get yourself at that time to really to really heal. 2:47:14.400 --> 2:47:16.160 And then if you decided to do it again, you 2:47:16.240 --> 2:47:21.119 know you can make a bet decision. Divorcedora, that's gonna 2:47:21.120 --> 2:47:23.120 be the offspring. Yeah, when we get our side shows 2:47:23.959 --> 2:47:29.680 all day just like remember that ship. Hey, our boss 2:47:29.720 --> 2:47:34.800 Scott's here. Did you learn anything we embarrass? Did we 2:47:34.920 --> 2:47:37.960 do we embarrass the higher ups and office upstairs? No? 2:47:38.200 --> 2:47:40.720 I mean, look, there's a lot of things I think 2:47:40.760 --> 2:47:43.520 in this interview that we're super interesting. One, uh to 2:47:43.640 --> 2:47:46.600 what Fonte was saying, super real, like more you always 2:47:46.640 --> 2:47:48.720 felt like he was at and in his comic and 2:47:49.520 --> 2:47:51.840 celebrity persona, but just having him here in the room. 2:47:51.920 --> 2:47:56.240 Definitely a real dude, super talented. Most comedians Seinfeld otherwise, 2:47:56.280 --> 2:47:58.240 I'm a big fan of comedy. They take a year 2:47:58.360 --> 2:48:00.200 to work out before they go out on the old 2:48:00.560 --> 2:48:02.920 and they get a solid sixty to ninety minutes before 2:48:02.959 --> 2:48:06.520 they do that, and he's literally putting it together, winging 2:48:06.800 --> 2:48:12.160 yea as its because no he's my Chris is my 2:48:12.480 --> 2:48:16.880 preparation guru for all the for all the folklore I 2:48:16.959 --> 2:48:20.400 talk about, like the ten thousand hour practice thing, Like 2:48:20.920 --> 2:48:23.360 I'm with him when he's at this obscure club, like 2:48:23.520 --> 2:48:27.680 working things out with his grandfather glasses and all these notebooks. 2:48:28.080 --> 2:48:31.800 Like when he's prepping stuff, he's not like this sure 2:48:32.440 --> 2:48:35.840 you know coxs your walk on on the stage and thing. No, 2:48:36.080 --> 2:48:38.760 he's like walking on the stage with pointext to glasses, 2:48:38.800 --> 2:48:42.080 with a whole bunch of composition notebooks. Okay, what's try 2:48:42.120 --> 2:48:46.280 to talk about? Okay, try some food jokes. No, I'm 2:48:46.320 --> 2:48:50.440 not that okay Ravioli so no, no, no, no, no 2:48:50.520 --> 2:48:53.040 no no. And he's like like literally and watching the 2:48:53.160 --> 2:48:56.240 process and to see nobody laugh. And if a joke 2:48:56.280 --> 2:48:58.160 doesn't work, he's like, you know, I'm like, okay, let 2:48:58.200 --> 2:49:03.439 me try okay. Uh nikes. So like he's real scientist, 2:49:03.560 --> 2:49:06.640 he's really working it out, like the reason, right, He's 2:49:06.680 --> 2:49:09.600 the reason why I started prepping my DJ sets, Like, oh, 2:49:10.040 --> 2:49:12.400 to be that great, you have to prep and then 2:49:12.959 --> 2:49:15.040 not just go up there and wing it. How do 2:49:15.080 --> 2:49:18.440 the audiences respond to him when he's working stuff out? 2:49:18.480 --> 2:49:20.200 You know, like you said, they might not laugh. But 2:49:20.280 --> 2:49:23.920 like sometimes people or sometimes it's weird because lately I'll 2:49:23.959 --> 2:49:26.560 see him the last year when like you just gotta 2:49:26.600 --> 2:49:29.240 come to the Comedy Seller, like now he if he's 2:49:29.240 --> 2:49:33.120 going to Comedy Seller, then everybody's gonna like Louie is 2:49:33.120 --> 2:49:36.760 gonna show up, Seinfield might show up, because he's definitely 2:49:36.800 --> 2:49:40.760 showing up. Uh, Hannibal will be there. Amy's gonna be 2:49:40.800 --> 2:49:43.920 If Amy and him are there, then basically nine of 2:49:44.120 --> 2:49:46.520 the gods of comedy will also be there. I think 2:49:46.520 --> 2:49:48.840 if you're coming to the Comedy Seller, if you're an 2:49:48.879 --> 2:49:51.320 audience member that's going to that club, I think you 2:49:51.440 --> 2:49:52.840 kind of know what you're in for. I think like 2:49:53.000 --> 2:49:55.600 they don't because when I say no Jim for meaning 2:49:55.720 --> 2:49:58.600 like they would like to see someone work that out, 2:49:58.720 --> 2:50:03.119 you know what I mean? Pay sense. Ever since Louis, 2:50:03.280 --> 2:50:06.440 people understand that that's that the Comedy Seller is the 2:50:06.560 --> 2:50:11.959 working out spot. But you know it's also the you're 2:50:12.000 --> 2:50:14.600 caught up in the moment because you know, if Chris 2:50:14.760 --> 2:50:16.879 is on, then damn Kevin Hart must be oh my god, 2:50:17.000 --> 2:50:20.760 there he is right there like it's it's it's But also, 2:50:20.840 --> 2:50:23.680 like he said, comedians will they feel like them for 2:50:23.720 --> 2:50:28.760 each other. Also, Yeah, and the real, the real workout 2:50:28.879 --> 2:50:32.320 happens upstairs because once they're done and they go back 2:50:32.400 --> 2:50:35.000 up to that booth in the back, that's when they start, 2:50:35.080 --> 2:50:36.720 you know, you know, you bomble mes ship and da 2:50:36.760 --> 2:50:38.560 da da da da and they start comparing notes. Like 2:50:38.760 --> 2:50:41.320 that's the real That's the part that I wish people 2:50:41.360 --> 2:50:45.119 could really see about the process of of comedy building. 2:50:45.280 --> 2:50:47.800 There was two other things he said that I kind 2:50:47.800 --> 2:50:49.560 of wish we had dug a little deeper on, which 2:50:49.640 --> 2:50:52.279 was he talked about all of his friends doing drugs 2:50:52.320 --> 2:50:54.240 and he didn't, and I kind of wanted to know why, 2:50:54.360 --> 2:50:56.440 Like what was it? Like was he afraid? Was it health? 2:50:56.560 --> 2:50:57.880 Is it just like I don't want to be that 2:50:57.959 --> 2:51:03.080 guy because his dad would have beat his ass. I 2:51:03.160 --> 2:51:04.959 kind of figured that too. And then the other moment 2:51:05.040 --> 2:51:07.840 when he decided to go to the when he saw 2:51:07.879 --> 2:51:10.600 the ad and went down to the comedies, Like what 2:51:10.879 --> 2:51:13.040 what made him say I can do comedy? Like he 2:51:13.240 --> 2:51:15.720 at that point he had said nothing had ever come 2:51:15.760 --> 2:51:17.680 other than he was just a fan of it, like 2:51:18.360 --> 2:51:21.760 scientific in this approach, but he's not scientific romantic, Like 2:51:21.920 --> 2:51:25.600 I'm scientific romantic. I'll fetish size over Oh my god, Like, 2:51:26.840 --> 2:51:29.000 so when you had this MP three, you know, this, 2:51:29.400 --> 2:51:32.680 this MP three of this particular song, did you think 2:51:32.720 --> 2:51:35.600 that he can nostalgic over MP threes? Now, Shi, Well, 2:51:36.000 --> 2:51:42.800 I think there's but and the stories you've heard on 2:51:42.879 --> 2:51:45.720 this show have kind of ruined that notion because you 2:51:45.840 --> 2:51:48.720 hear all this stuff is happy accidents. Right. Well, I'm 2:51:48.760 --> 2:51:52.040 fine with the happy accidents, but no one, no one 2:51:52.280 --> 2:51:57.800 really scientifically genius, tends to look over there. You know, 2:51:58.840 --> 2:52:01.880 they're very dismissing of of their work and that stuff. 2:52:01.920 --> 2:52:03.960 So it's been a whole lot of happy accidents and 2:52:04.040 --> 2:52:08.440 not overthinking things. Yeah. I do all the overthinking anyway, 2:52:08.520 --> 2:52:13.879 when half of Queen Uh wait, I have a funny story, 2:52:14.000 --> 2:52:16.480 funny Chris Rock story. If we're ending, if we're ending 2:52:16.520 --> 2:52:19.760 the show. Um, it was like a year and a 2:52:19.800 --> 2:52:22.440 half ago. You were working on the music for UM 2:52:23.200 --> 2:52:28.280 for his movie Oh I Forgot scored? Yeah, and um, 2:52:28.640 --> 2:52:31.040 for some reason you had me text him or call him, 2:52:31.080 --> 2:52:32.800 and for some reason my my number ended up in 2:52:32.920 --> 2:52:38.840 his phone. So one night I'm at home, hi as hell, 2:52:39.240 --> 2:52:43.959 and uh, I get this FaceTime and it's Chris Rock, right, 2:52:44.000 --> 2:52:46.760 it says Chris Rock FaceTime, like he's calling me. So 2:52:47.040 --> 2:52:49.280 I'm like, okay, so I picked I pick it up 2:52:49.640 --> 2:52:51.160 and it's Chris Rocky's like in the back of a 2:52:51.240 --> 2:52:53.800 car or a limo or something like that, and he's like, 2:52:53.879 --> 2:52:57.000 who is this, Like he's looking at you know, I'm like, 2:52:57.080 --> 2:53:00.840 you call me? He go, go, this is Steve Us engineer. 2:53:00.959 --> 2:53:03.920 He goes, oh ship, he goes, I don't know how 2:53:04.000 --> 2:53:06.320 that just happened. I go, you must have just asked 2:53:06.560 --> 2:53:09.160 FaceTime me, you know, like as style FaceTime, Like my 2:53:09.280 --> 2:53:12.119 number must just been in his phone and his must 2:53:12.120 --> 2:53:15.280 have sat on his phone. So I'm like, yeah, okay, 2:53:15.320 --> 2:53:17.080 how are you doing. He's like, goods, I'm gonna go 2:53:17.160 --> 2:53:23.480 back to smoking crack now by and I just like 2:53:23.680 --> 2:53:28.800 that was the perfect Chris rock interaction ending all right, 2:53:28.920 --> 2:53:33.120 let me have I'm pay Bill Fox Bill and h Sugar, 2:53:33.160 --> 2:53:36.640 Steve fon Tikolo and yeah yo this of course Love Supreme. 2:53:36.879 --> 2:53:38.400 We will talk to you on the next girl round. 2:53:38.560 --> 2:53:49.360 All right, of course Love Supreme. It's a production of 2:53:49.480 --> 2:53:52.720 I Heart Radio. This classic episode was produced by the 2:53:52.840 --> 2:53:59.600 team at Pandora. For more podcasts for My heart Radio, 2:53:59.720 --> 2:54:03.040 visit the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever 2:54:03.120 --> 2:54:06.680 you listen to your favorite shows. H