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Speaker 1: Of Course, Love Supreme is a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Quest Love and you're checking

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Speaker 1: out another QLs classic. We're digging in the vaults for

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Speaker 1: all of your favorites of past episodes. This one one

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Speaker 1: of the funnier ones we've ever done. Chris Rock keeps

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Speaker 1: you in stitches, always keeps you educated. I hope you

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Speaker 1: enjoyed some grandmother call roll call, Whatur's love don't stop?

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Speaker 1: And I am shocked. Yeah, I'm with Chris Rock in

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Speaker 1: the place where they shot to buy. So bringa road

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Speaker 1: called Quest Love Supreme. Yeah, y'all know we bawling, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I am fonte. Yeah. And it just be calling

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Speaker 1: some prema rogue, some prima, some prima rogue. Chrispon so funny. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so what's next? Yeah, fring back that talk show? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not x much. Some prima road called some prema so

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Speaker 1: Back with christ Love Supria. Ain't that some ship roll

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Speaker 1: frema roll call, some prima, some frema rogue. My Bill

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Speaker 1: is here? Yeah in radio land. Yeah, don't please. It's

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Speaker 1: Chris Rock here rogue, prima ro Chris Rocks my name, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I got hot. Yeah, And I don't want to

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Speaker 1: farg and I'm not coming on rogue some prima rogue,

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Speaker 1: some frema rogue rod straight out. Oh yeah, ladies, And look, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Chris Rock is on the show. And I don't want

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Speaker 1: to waste a second or in any of whose else

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Speaker 1: has been on this show? Any other celebrities or my no,

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Speaker 1: you're not the first. I'm the We have the revolution.

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Speaker 1: Who has this been on the show? Without Prince? Though?

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Speaker 1: Right with that? Without Okay, you gotta say that, motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: You can't just well yeah, I mean, you know, Relution,

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Speaker 1: that would have been amazing if we had him on

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Speaker 1: the show. That would have been something part of the

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Speaker 1: revolution or is it Prince and the revolution and the

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Speaker 1: revolution is a separate entity. So he was never in

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Speaker 1: the revolution? Okay, except in the movie Purple Rain, then

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Speaker 1: it was the kid in the Revolution? Okay, yes, please,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Revolution. Exactly? Does that say that? No,

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Speaker 1: nos has done the show. Chef Gordon has done the show.

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Speaker 1: Ray Parker Jr. Has done the show. Rudolph's done this shower,

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Speaker 1: Q Tip Salons. Yea, yeah, okay, so yeah we we

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Speaker 1: we yes in this very room, in that very seed

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Speaker 1: well and I'm on every week and and Sugar Steve

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Speaker 1: is on every week. All right? Um? Yeah, because you

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Speaker 1: are so opinionated, really unsolicited, you saved you. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to waste a second about any part of your life.

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Speaker 1: So I wait, I just recently I didn't know you

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Speaker 1: were born in South Carolina. Yeah. I was born in

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Speaker 1: a little town called Andrews. Andrews right next to Georgetown.

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Speaker 1: When you drive in, it says the home of Chubby Checker.

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Speaker 1: Uh so Chubby's not even from Philly. No, Chubby Checkers

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Speaker 1: from andrew South Carolina. And one of my goals in

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Speaker 1: to change that sign to home with Chris Rock. You

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Speaker 1: know you can make that happen, right, I mean it

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Speaker 1: hasn't happened yet. I mean you can great work or

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Speaker 1: good work. I haven't made the twist. So you're saying

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Speaker 1: township and be like, yo, y'all should really put Christmas?

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Speaker 1: You would think, I mean, I don't know, I haven't

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Speaker 1: But when you go on tour, we are you able

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like fifty miles away. Yeah, but is

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Speaker 1: basketball rims exactly Chris Rock parts. So how long did

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Speaker 1: I was raised in Brooklyn. So what was assuming that you? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what happened like every day was up here? Yo? What's

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Speaker 1: not too far to Kada Howard and Saratoga, right, you

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Speaker 1: so why is it that assuming that your parents you

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Speaker 1: know that ship? I was that guy I was corny

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Speaker 1: Uh So, why did you have to go to school?

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Speaker 1: a lot of drugs around, a lot of a lot

420
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: of music, a lot of DJs on my block, a

421
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: lot of I want to be comics but really want

422
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: to be DJ. Who famous was in your proximity Maybe

423
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: you didn't know at the time, Like was Lee Little

424
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: Thomas across the street or no, you know lived right

425
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: around the corner. We used to play football against um

426
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: what's my man jam on it? Uh? Nucleus Nucleus Yeah, yeah, yeah,

427
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: Cosmo Cosmo d Cosmo D lived literally I was on

428
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: the cad of Cosmo deals on Bainbridge. Uh my first

429
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: you know, I went you know before I dropped out,

430
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 1: I was in a black school for a minute, right,

431
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: boys and girls High. Fresh Gordon, you know, Fresh Fresh

432
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: Gordon was in there. Fresh Gordon, who allegedly, you know

433
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: he made oh yeah, but allegedly he made the beat

434
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: for Larry Love. Of course allegedly he did, because it's

435
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: the same guy damn beat. And I refused to believe that.

436
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: Gavin Christopher, he like it's his production. He and I

437
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: argue about this on Facebook. I'm like, there's no way.

438
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: And allegedly he did a couple of those Herbie love

439
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: Bug beats for Salt and Pepper. Allegedly. No, I believe

440
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: that Fresh Gordon made Especie. Yeah, so he was there.

441
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: There was a group called the Dynamite Too, made a

442
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: record call Can't Stop Till I reached the top, and um,

443
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: what the fund is that other record? I forget the other.

444
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: I used to like load crates for them and carry

445
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: crates for them. They played the Roxy a couple of times. Uh.

446
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: Freddie B and the Mighty Mike Masters. Oh you know

447
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: Freddy B the Mighty Mike Masters. Yeah, like right across

448
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: the street. One of my oldest friends. Literally, I lived

449
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: at six nine Team Freddie be lived at six ten. Okay,

450
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: so Freddie being a mighty Mike Masses in their Dwayne

451
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: Pearl Washington's in my homeroom class, one of the greatest

452
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: college basketball players of all time. Uh just died. Uh

453
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: Prince markt D's around there. Uh a lot of cats, man,

454
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: Like you know, lots of lots. I'm trying to say,

455
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: who am I forgetting? Uh? I don't know. I mean,

456
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: but I hung out too. I mean, you know, I

457
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: went to the Fever a little bit. I was at

458
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: the Latin Quo. I'm a big Latin quarter guy. Yeah,

459
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: That's where I was going to go. So I was.

460
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: I was in the Latin Quarter. No interviews complete without

461
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: Latin Quarters Quarter fun house. Uh, what the fun is

462
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: the one on fifty seventh Street. No, not Bentley's, Bentley's

463
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: or some other shop. Oh my god, Bentley's Nigga. Bentley's

464
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: was the ultimate R and B spot of all time?

465
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: Did you have to dress R and B where they like?

466
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: It was like it was like one of those places

467
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: that's like funck hip hop. It was like fuck hip hop.

468
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: This is Lelo Thomasville. This is because all the bad

469
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: girls are a bit Ley's. You know, fine girl like

470
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy hug out at Bentley's Eddie Murphy, Rick James,

471
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: like after they left Studio fifty they go to Bitley's

472
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: still a thing in the eighties. No, not really, but

473
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: it was openly open. It was like technically open. Sometimes

474
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think the Red Parrot was the one

475
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: on seven Street, which is part but Red Parrot was

476
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: like the cross between Bentley's and the Latin Quarter. So

477
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: it was like it was R and B and like

478
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: a Paradise garage. Guy like no, no, no, that was

479
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: too gay for me. That was like, I mean, I

480
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: was young, like you know when you're young. It was

481
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: not that I was homophobic. I was just like, what

482
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: is that? What is that? What is that? I see? Yeah,

483
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: you're just like okay, you guys. Plus I hated the

484
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: house music There's a Bad Girl. But the girls, my god,

485
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: the girls that were at the Paralyzed Garage were just ridiculous.

486
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: So I was a big figuring out when a club

487
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: let out and being outside was let out and kind

488
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: of act like you was, We're going to the thing,

489
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna get some pancakes and so and so like

490
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: like he was there all that. Man. I hate the

491
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: fact that in two thousand seventeen, I'm finally understanding with

492
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: parking lot pimpen I let out, big parking lot, pimp,

493
00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: parking lot. Wait were you driving back? You know I

494
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: had a Toyota Corolla. Uh my father had a seventies

495
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: six uh light blue El Dorado. Occasionally then I would

496
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: steal from him occasionally. You know, it wasn't that, you know,

497
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: I wasn't you know, once crack came out, motherfucker's was

498
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: driving Benzes and ship you were just done. But for

499
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: a minute there, any car worked. Having a car in

500
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: New York, they seemed like a privilege. I don't know.

501
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: I mean when I was a black kid, I was

502
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: never getting a cab. So and you know, the train

503
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: was like, you know, it was before Julietta. Ship was crazy.

504
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: So you know that ship. Plus I was just weird.

505
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to all the ship. I wasn't

506
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: getting high, so I got out a lot like my

507
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: boys would. You know, every Friday, everybody come from their

508
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: shitty job or whatever the fuck, and we would talk

509
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: about going and somewhere, and of course no one would

510
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: ever make it anywhere. Because they've been based in cocaine.

511
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: But I thought she meant weed. I'm sorry, he said hi.

512
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, So you get off work,

513
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: it's like anybody, Yeah, we're gonna go to the city.

514
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to the Deuce and you know, and

515
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: six becomes okay, we're gonna leave at seven, and seven

516
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: becomes nine and nine and then okay, we're gonna smoke

517
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: for just a little while. Basically, you know whatever, we

518
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: became coke, which became crack. So that role you played

519
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: in New Jack City was not I I didn't think

520
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: you did. I wanna say you did. I was just

521
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: meaning that it was you didn't have to go and

522
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: find do some research. No, no, no, no, no. Everybody

523
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: I was with was, you know, doing something. So because

524
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: I didn't really you know, I drank and I had

525
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: a high tolerance, so weird. I had a much higher

526
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: tolerance than I do now because my father drove for

527
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: Wrangel Brewery. So like one of his first jobs before

528
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: the Daily knew, so you know, was a lot of

529
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: giving here, drink this, drink this. When I was a kid,

530
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: I would go to his job. This is how there

531
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: wasn't even a thing called drunk driving. Back then, it

532
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: was just acceptable. So they had they just had a

533
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: water fountain and a beer fountain that looked exactly like

534
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: the water fowla what the brewery like dream. It was

535
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: like it was like Homer and I don't even drink, yeah,

536
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: like and they lift you up. And I remember my uncle,

537
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: my uncle John was kind of alcoholic, and I just

538
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: remember being cars with him going to South Carolina, him

539
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: drinking the whole way, never never thinking twice about it,

540
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: never feeling in danger at all. Sometimes we would have

541
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: to this is a story, uh like whenever like like uh,

542
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: like my grandfather died, or about old uncle died. This happens.

543
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: It still happens today. So an old black person dies

544
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 1: a guy, and what happens is you the good part

545
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: of the family. Your job is to go get the

546
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: guns before the bad part of the family comes. It's

547
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: the Carolina trip. Sometimes sometimes it's so it's like everyone,

548
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, ship, granddaddy died. We gotta get down

549
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: here and get them before Junior and Ronald get there,

550
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: before your bad cousins get there. We gotta get these

551
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: guns and throw them away. We can't let the guns

552
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: get into the wrong hands. Yeah, that's real though. Side note,

553
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: do you know no one here has done that? No, Steve,

554
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes the toy Jackson with Michael you didn't

555
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: hear the story. God, okay, so did you have a

556
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: porn get all the porn out of his house? Apparently?

557
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: Steve is my porn guy. By the way, if I died,

558
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: for if you die, would clear my Google search bar.

559
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: Steve Steven knows where all the bodies are hidden. Um apparently,

560
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: so when Michael Jackson passed and every family member is

561
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: running to uh see her Sini in l A, she

562
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: ran right to his apartment where the blackest apartment where

563
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: I mean he had a condo and somewhere in Beverly

564
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: Hills and knew where the stash of five million dollars

565
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: cash was inside the wall, like Mike had a just

566
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: in case it. But that's some real ship. Like I

567
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: don't know any black person, do you have a just

568
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: in case some ship happens? Nike makes me want to Uh,

569
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: I just don't believe in it because it just makes

570
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: people like want to rob you the world between having

571
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: you know, work done at your house. That's I don't

572
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: believe in safe you know, safe, just make somebody want

573
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: to come back and rob, like, tie you up. I

574
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: just know I know motherfucker's that have been tied up

575
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: and beat the funk down, Like where is it? Where

576
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: is that? I know? Yeah, I definitely know a couple

577
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: of cats have been tied up and shipped themselves. Oh

578
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: ship do we know? Celebrity cats almost and just like

579
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: motherfucker just had you know, to say, ten thousand dollars

580
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: worth of jewelry and a safe. But it's a safe,

581
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: so everybody thinks there's so much ship in there. So

582
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: you're like you put a rolex in there, and you're like,

583
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: put your rolex in your drawer. Do not get us

584
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: safe for your fucking rolex. Somebody is gonna break in

585
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: your house and they're gonna think you have a lot more.

586
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: All right, tell me a legendary Latin Quarter story, because wait,

587
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: did you ever perform at the Latin Quarter? No? Never

588
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: performed at the I mean, what do I have? It's

589
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: so weird. It's like when I see Latifa kidn't play

590
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: or light or like a lot have you have when

591
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: he was alive, like a bunch of it. It's like

592
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: we went to a high school together because we all

593
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: know each other from the quarter. It's like a ton

594
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: of us, you know, all the guys from x clan,

595
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: like just a bunch of motherfucker's that just we all

596
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: went to this fucking same club. I remember, I don't

597
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: know what's a good story, just being again, I just

598
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: had this weird ability to blend in with motherfucker's. So

599
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: I remember coming outside the quarter and Eric be playing

600
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: me the beat from Follow the Leader just at this,

601
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: sitting at Eric B's truck with a bunch of other

602
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: young cats, just like and Eric be explaining to you

603
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: what the fucking records is going to be, and you're

604
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 1: so into the ship you knew you and Rob's gonna

605
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: say this, and he's gonna say, like he that ship.

606
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: I remember being outside. It's weird, just being outside the

607
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: thing and Chuck playing the beat from uh Welcome to

608
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: the Terror Dome. Wh Yeah, and just hearing that ship

609
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: this in a truck, like just him opening up the

610
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: back and playing that ship. I remember being in the

611
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: Quarter when Rebel without a Pause came out, okay, and

612
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: and watching Mellie mell get piste the funk off every

613
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: time you heard that ship because he thought Chuck was

614
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: taking his ship and that motherfucker would walk to the

615
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: DJ booth and skipped the record. But who's gonna test them?

616
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: That old on that motherfuckers like this, This is the

617
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: real deal. Nellie mel and Scorpio. The motherfucker's always ran together, right,

618
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: The brothers, I don't know, they're like, you know, it's

619
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: like like Bobby and Ralph Tresbant, always hiding together. It's

620
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: like Mellie Mellon Scorpio. I remember, I remember being in

621
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: a car. I remember again, I just had this weird billy.

622
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: Do you remember I'm outside the hip hop story. I'm

623
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: outside the the rock the Bells tour. Okay, so l

624
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: L is at the garden and I'm just like I

625
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: might have been, and I'm gonna get you sucker, Like

626
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm so I'm outside the garden, you know,

627
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: saying one rib, trying to get in the garden. How

628
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: do I get it? Like, you know, everybody thought they

629
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: knew somebody right anyway, Mike Tyson gets me in, right, Mike, hey,

630
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 1: you you you know Eddie whatever, I'm in the garden.

631
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: Me and Mike Tyson like right, like whether you figure

632
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: out the year, me and Mike Tyson and Naomi Campbell

633
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: on top of chairs. The other thing too, is I

634
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: always looked like you think I look young for my age.

635
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: Now I looked so back then. Yeah, when I was twenty,

636
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: I twelve. So it was it was like, hey, I

637
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: let the kid head. It was a big that was

638
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: a big part of it. So I remember, I remember

639
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: Scott le Roc had just died, so watching Carrass wont

640
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 1: to do his first show at the Garden, like literally

641
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: the week Scott Larroc died. Uh it, yes, yes, yes, yes,

642
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: watching Public Enemy for the first time, like unfurrel, What

643
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: the funk this is? They're on early, like like you know,

644
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: doing the first album? You know? Uh what then is it?

645
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: You know? Yo bone Rush? The show you know is

646
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: a ton like that show, but they had the hot

647
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: Jam at the time, so they do rubble without a pause.

648
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: So it's me Mike and Naomi like that ship LL

649
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: watching l L come out the radio. But um so

650
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: we went to a party later and Naomi gave uh

651
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: Scorpio her number while she's with Mike Tyson she was

652
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: hanging and then okay, you know, you know Scorpio, Hey

653
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: White Lines was out, motherfucker. It wasn't it wasn't dead,

654
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, like you know what I mean,

655
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: like Grandmaster Flash furious that ship wasn't dead. That's Mike.

656
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson not gonna out, Mike, That's fucking Mike. This

657
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: is before ears in jail, you know. Anyway, So he

658
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: was a cool person because I always hear people like

659
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: hanging out with Mike Tyson. But Mike Tyson is the

660
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: best guy to hang out. Yeah. I used to love

661
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: hanging out with Mike Tyson. Uh, Mike Tyson is very

662
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: vulnerable too, like very I remember, I'm digressing, but I

663
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: remember the last time I hung out with him. We're

664
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: both in Okay, I'll get we're both in Jersey. How

665
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: we're in Jersey, I don't know. We're like some house

666
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: party or some ship. How the funk we're there, I

667
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: don't know. Anyway, We're at the blackest party in the world. Okay,

668
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: she is black in Jersey. Right, it's SIMI adult life

669
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: rock kind of famous, right, Yeah, I'm anyway, So we're there.

670
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: Me and Mike Tyson are kind of drunk, and we're

671
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: both kind of like fun. We both called ourselves ugly

672
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: and We're like, Uh, if we weren't rich, we could

673
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: never get these girls. We're like, we're just depressed. But

674
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: the funny thing that happened at night, it was it's

675
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: the blackest party in the world. Keyshawn Johnson's there, a

676
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: bunch of Jets and walks Bill Belichick, who's not even

677
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: the coach of the Jets. The Bill Belichick walks into

678
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: the blackest party in the test, looks at key Shot

679
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: and maybe one other Jet and goes come on, gets

680
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: them and gets like you nigga is going to bed.

681
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: We got a game that's a record scratch. Belichicks in here.

682
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: He was when he was like a coordinator. He's not

683
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: even a head coach anyway. Naomi Campbell gave her number

684
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: two scorpio. Mike Tyson realizes this, and this is there's

685
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: a slow boil cut to me Mike Tyson and Naomi

686
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: Campbell in a car going up Madison Avenue and Mike

687
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: Tyson kicking Naomi Campbell out of a moving car. I

688
00:47:54,320 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: don't even understand this. Use the original what's his foot

689
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: with at his actual thing on his foot? I'm just like, yeah,

690
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: I was back in the day, go back. I've seen

691
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: a lot, so let's go back to let's go so

692
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: comedy saved your life and was come on kid, stop

693
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: saying you guys. All right, So this quest during Chris

694
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: Rockin's I guess this weekend, we're talking about kicking benches

695
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: out of the car. The baddest motherfucker of all time.

696
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Anyway, I remember after I did like

697
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: Bring the Pain or something, I'm in l A. I'm

698
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: at whatever fly Hotel and I see Nailmi Campbells. She's

699
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: like Chris, Chris. I was like, finally I'm going to

700
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: get this pussy whatever. I'm all over the play with

701
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: some hosted MTV A. Well, it's like like back when

702
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: I was Drake, like like I was that. Yeah. I

703
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, what's up? And she's like, do you

704
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: have Eddie's number? I can't get this. She saw you

705
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: when you come up. She was like, no, I know

706
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: he really yeah, yeah, we both saw each other on

707
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: to come up. So there you go. All right, you

708
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: never got it. Speaking of Eddie, speaking of the Black Pack,

709
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I know there's a myth of

710
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: the Black Pack is like l a wrap, It's just Dray.

711
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: It's just Dray and it's just Stray. Every this is

712
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: Dray and iced tea and everything else, everything else has

713
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: a Dray tentacle alight. It was like, literally, who's Dray

714
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: and so Eddie Murphy. So the black pack is Eddie Murphy.

715
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: Every literally him, how dost him? I met Eddie at

716
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: the Comic Strip in New York. I was there one night.

717
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't even on the schedule. I was just like

718
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: hanging out watching comedians. I was gonna stack chairs later,

719
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: like just earned my way on the stage. And he

720
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: came in and it was really Eddie Murphy was not

721
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 1: Dr Doolo Murphy. It's like leather suit Like people don't

722
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: realize Eddie Murphy used to wear leather suits like just

723
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: on a tooth. Like this motherfucker was eldest or some ship.

724
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: This ship was like he was like thor he was

725
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: like Iron Man and mother fucking we used to walk

726
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: around with boots and fucking leather suits or or zebra

727
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: skins like crazy. Like anyway, so he comes in. You

728
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: know I was walking, you know, you look outside just

729
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: like five pushes and he's got the real entourage and

730
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: he's got the baddest girl you ever seed and you're like,

731
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: god damn it, he's got shades on in the fucking inside.

732
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: And they didn't have any black comics on that night,

733
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: and he asked the owner of the club, like are

734
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: the black guys where? It's like, oh, we have them

735
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: right here. That literally it's literally how it went out.

736
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: And um I went on. You know, I guess I'd

737
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: been doing it maybe three years at that point something

738
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: like that, and I killed. I ripped it and like,

739
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: are you planning or you just free st that? Like whatever?

740
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: It's like, what do you plan? Like I plan a

741
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 1: DJ gig? Like you really weird. I saw you this weekend.

742
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: You de I was like, oh, ship, this is all

743
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: planned out. You got to plant it? Um did I plan?

744
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: I didn't plan on meeting Eddie Murphy that night? I

745
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: mean I planned on working on the set in front

746
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:52,479
Speaker 1: of five people. Are you planning one day? Like Richard

747
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: Pryor might walk in and I want to be on

748
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: my best or but even then, like do you want

749
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: to kill in front of them? Like what if you're

750
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: like a threat? Like save some guy that you see

751
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: now is like red hot at eighteen? Are you saying

752
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: to yourself like are you looking at Michael Jay like

753
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: might be a threat or oh I can help him out.

754
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm twenty years older than Michael Jay, So I mean

755
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: we're always going to appeal to different people and put away.

756
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: If if I thought like a guy like Michael Jay

757
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: wasn't on the path to success, yes, I would try

758
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: to help. Say hey, I did it with Leslie Jones,

759
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: Like hey, Lauren, you should look at this person I've

760
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: done in a J B school. I got his job

761
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: over there. You're the reason we have two black women,

762
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: thank you, you know. I mean, it's a bunch of

763
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of people far too many to fucking

764
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, and he's done the same. I feel like

765
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: you and him genuinely want to help. But like, Okay,

766
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: there's a certain MC I won't name that I know

767
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: will associate himself with someone with lesser swag. It might

768
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: have a little street credibility going on that has less

769
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: lesser swag, But he will never stand to someone that's

770
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: a real threat to him and outsign him. But he'll choose,

771
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: like he's very choosy on who he picks to endorse

772
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: and take their cool from, because you know, it ups

773
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: his street credit. But won't really co sign or get

774
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: in the ring with someone that could really I mean

775
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: post white, unless a person is a celebrity. Young cats

776
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: are young cats, and I don't know. I try to

777
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: help him, to try to you know, Eddie was cool

778
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: to me. Keenan was cool to me. Uh. You know,

779
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: there was a bunch of guys that would talk to

780
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: me when they didn't have to talk to me. So

781
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: I try to you know, if somebody asked me a question,

782
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: Trevor Noah calls me or Michael or whatever. You know,

783
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: I try to drop knowledge as far as peers, I mean,

784
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: like Dave. I love Dave, and I mean, technically, are

785
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: you do you consider ten years older than Dave? So

786
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: what's what's the generation? And comedians you have to be

787
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: ten years? I don't know what it is. I mean,

788
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: on paper, we should probably hate each other because we're

789
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, p funking Earth went in fire. We're always

790
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: gonna be you know what I mean. Uh, Eddie and

791
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: Prior weren't boys. Richard and Prior weren't boys. Uh. I

792
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: don't know. I've made a conscious decision that I'm gonna

793
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: love Dave. They did. I'm nice together, but they weren't.

794
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: They weren't boys. You know, I don't I don't want

795
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: to speak too much out of whatever, but they weren't boys. Okay.

796
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: I was never in Eddie's houses, so Richard, you know,

797
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: eating chicken or no chef, you know what I mean.

798
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, I mean, I never

799
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: saw them hang out it stuff on a movie set,

800
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They acknowledge each other, and

801
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like this, don't you know

802
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: they're not at a fight together and none of that

803
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: ship they're not. They acknowledged each other. And Richard was

804
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: older than Eddie, so does that ship. But you know,

805
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: I love Dave. I mean, Dave is, for my money,

806
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: the best in the world. Really. It's like the guy

807
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: that like, I'm like, sometimes I see him and I

808
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: gotta wrap my mind around what the funk he just did.

809
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, damn it, how do you do that ship? Yeah?

810
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't know. I don't. I'm

811
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: it's too much fun when you play with people, you

812
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's too much fun to have

813
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: like it's lonely being good, you know what I mean.

814
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: So if you see somebody else good it's you know,

815
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 1: what I mean is it is it even harder to

816
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: be friends with someone that's not as good, that doesn't

817
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: know it yet. I don't do bad talent. I don't

818
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't hang out with untalented people.

819
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: I don't fuck intalented people I don't like. Because I

820
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: sit next to untalented people I don't like. I always think, uh,

821
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, you know, shitty artistry is sexually transmitted, So

822
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't funk with that ship. Dave said, none of

823
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: the things said that you're a critic, So it's like

824
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: I'm tough. He's tough too, Uh, but you're I mean,

825
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: what makes you comfortable enough? I mean, I respect the

826
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: fact that you will just like a worth. I mean

827
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: some guys that I think aren't that good, but I

828
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: like their work ethic. And then there's some guys. There's

829
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: some guys I think are great. I'm not gonna say names.

830
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: I think are hysterical and hate their work ethic, and

831
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: they piss me off. It's like, oh, this smellfucker's wasting

832
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: ridiculous talent. Oh my boy, Okay, you know I'm going off.

833
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: There's a few of them. Oh I wish I was

834
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: as funny as this guy or this guy. Oh you're

835
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: talking about comedy just in comedy. Yeah yeah, it's like

836
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: like I ain't the funniest comedian. Uh. You know, there's

837
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: some funny motherfucker's that just don't work on their ship

838
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: that don't you know, how does that happen? Treat it

839
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: specially because sometimes there's still some person that's doing an

840
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: o J joke that's like you know, yeah, I mean

841
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: sometimes it's happen. You see it in sports sometimes that

842
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: when the game comes too easy to you. So when

843
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: the game comes too easy to you, it's hard to like,

844
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: it's hard to be Lebron. It's hard to be physically

845
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: better than everybody and practice more, you know what I mean,

846
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: that's fucking hard. Well, you're also a guy who you

847
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: let me. I'm sacked that you want to work on

848
00:57:54,400 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: your material and unorthodox places that aren't easy for you.

849
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: He told me to go to certain clubs in Florida

850
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: that you know, isn't your audience or whatever, and you

851
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, well if I'm funny here, then I

852
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: know it's good for my special weeks. Yeah I liked it. Well,

853
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm I'm old. I remember Muhammad Ali,

854
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: and you know he would go somewhere, they go up

855
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: in the mountains and they would train, and training was

856
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: eight weeks, and for eight weeks, if he lived a

857
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: certain way, he could beat anybody in the whole world.

858
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: So I try to like adapt that thing, like, Okay,

859
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: let's get away, let's get away from all the distractions.

860
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: And you know, okay, maybe it's not eight weeks, but

861
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: it's two weeks or three weeks, so you'll go to

862
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: a comedy club in Columbus, Ohio, or trying to find

863
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: a spot in Nashville right now, like something. So you

864
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: are you saying like I want to pick the places

865
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: where no one would ever find me funny, not even

866
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: not find me funny. I'm just trying to get away,

867
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: like really get away from my comfort zone, so genuine

868
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: laugh and not like the question. When you're around your friends,

869
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: you don't even have to complete sentences, you don't even

870
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: have to finish words. When you're not around your people,

871
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: now you have to enunciate, you know what I mean.

872
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: But the thing is, okay, now, when you told me

873
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: that you would go to West Palm sometimes, yeah, but

874
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: how do you know that they're just not blinded by

875
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: your celebrity, because comedy is this not that common. Celebrity

876
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: only works for six eight minutes and then people you deal.

877
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: When you're a musician, you know, no disrespect, but I'll

878
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: disrespect him. I'll go a funk. I look at these

879
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: motherfucker's going on stage singing songs they wrote thirty years ago,

880
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, five years ago, whatever the funk that

881
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: they've sung the hundred times. That ship's easy because it's proven.

882
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: The audience knows it now. I gotta do what I

883
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: what a comedian has to do is literally give people

884
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: brand new hit records every night, like an hour and

885
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: twenty minutes of brand new hits they've never heard before.

886
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: What the funk? So, no audience is faking that love? Right?

887
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: You don't want it from a musician, but you want

888
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: it from a comedian. You want new ship, you do

889
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: not want old. Hey, I can watch Delirious. I've watched

890
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: I've probably watched Delirious four times. But if I went

891
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: and saw Eddie Murphy lived, be mad as a motherfucker

892
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: if he did jokes from Delirious. When people go see

893
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: live comedy, they want live comedy. They almost want to

894
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: feel like you got this ship. You thought this ship

895
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: up tonight, which is why Dave makes it so hard

896
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: for you to take the shows. And he has all

897
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: these different assets that which is dope because pass it around.

898
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, I still say you should do your greatest

899
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: hit story, like yeah, that sh it's done. I did it.

900
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: I did it, I did it. I mean, you know,

901
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: it's weird before all this, you know, I don't really

902
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: want to talk about, but before all this Cosby ship happened,

903
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: I definitely was going to do a part in the

904
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: tour where I did like a long Cosby bit. But

905
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: I can't do that ship now because it's just, you know,

906
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: it's too hot, his spots too hot. And you know

907
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: didn't have favorite. Is that why it wouldn't have is

908
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: that it was like favorite, not Favorite, I mean, not

909
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: talking about him, but doing I was gonna I was

910
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: gonna do one. I suggested that I was going to

911
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: see that the dentist bid or the whole Russell whom

912
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: up my brother Russell man, you know what I mean,

913
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: Like that would be so cool to do one of

914
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 1: his bits, but I'm not gonna. You know, you can't.

915
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: People can't separate. I don't think you do, Cosby, but

916
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: I think you should do something I think I might do,

917
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: like some Rotney jokes or something I don't know, but

918
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: um like danger Danger Philly awesome. Yeah, I mean, I

919
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: just I wouldn't mind doing it. You don't like you

920
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: go to every rap show there's a sucking the Tupac

921
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: Biggie tribute. It's like, that's what I'm saying. It's like, okay,

922
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: in a comedy show, you got your fucking Rodney Cosby.

923
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: You Yeah, right, dude, that's what I want you to

924
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: do this. I still got to right a fucking hour

925
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: and a half of my own ship. But that I'm

926
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: just saying a part of the show. You know, maybe

927
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: that's my own car, Maybe that's my uncle. That's a

928
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: a fucking great, safe own car. Yes, I believe that.

929
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: I think you should do that. Can't do Cosby. So

930
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: let's you know, let's not talk. You're from Philly, and uh,

931
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: I'm not bringing up not at all. So you you

932
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: said you killed in front of the like, did you

933
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: know he was watching at the time. Yeah, I mean

934
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: they brought me up. I met him and I went

935
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: up and I did my thing and I heard And

936
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: what did you feel inside when you hear that? You

937
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: know I was. I was a cocky young kid. I was.

938
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: You weren't humble, like, oh gosh to meet you, sir.

939
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: I mean I was humbled to meet him. I mean,

940
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: obviously he was my fucking idol. You know what I mean.

941
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: He's not even that much old. He's like five years

942
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: older than me, but uh but he might as well

943
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: be five years older. Men, Yeah, for what have you done?

944
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: He was a lot older than me mature mature wise anyway.

945
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 1: And uh but you know, I mean put his away.

946
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: I was so cocky as a kid. I'm not you

947
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: know me, I'm not that guy now. But when I

948
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: was a kid, I listened to his first album, the

949
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: one at the comic strip with the you know, booginet whatever,

950
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: and I just thought, I'm I could do this ship

951
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: like I like it. And I loved everything he did

952
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: and didn't like that album. So you still feel that

953
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: way now? I like it more is that his Yobam

954
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: Russ show. That's funny because I like that record better

955
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: than like Delirious Delirious. I was allowed to watch Delirious,

956
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: so all my Delirious. I know Delirious based on people

957
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: doing it in school and basically Will Smith. I just realized,

958
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: like for longest, Delirious was never available on DVD or

959
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: any format, like when we were touring in the nineties,

960
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: So when it finally came out on like DVD like

961
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: maybe like ninety eight whatever, then I finally realized, like,

962
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: oh god, Will Smith has just been doing Delirious on

963
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: the Fresh Prince of bel Air, Like I don't realize

964
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: that well, I mean his it's attempted. I mean, of

965
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: course you know that Will Smith studied everything about and

966
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: then may that his person that uh yeah, delarious is

967
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: fucking yeah. I wish I could the ice cream. It's

968
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: like he should make the ice cream. Man. Imagine being

969
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: the Imagine being in a coma during the whole duration

970
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: of Michael Jackson's meteoric rise between like one to like

971
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: let's let's give him some bad years to eighty nine,

972
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: Like that was me blood on the dance floor. That's

973
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: what you're talking. Like if I were in a coma

974
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: right at the tail end of Off the Wall and

975
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: I woke up like maybe at the end of Dangerous,

976
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: like I just everything anything. Eddie Murphy related was just

977
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: taken away from me as not not even like coming

978
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: to America. So you said that he took you to

979
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: l A like at what point? Literally? So we hung

980
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: out that night a little bit. I went up the boat.

981
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: I was at Bubble Hill, Like, what was that ship? Like?

982
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: Seeing at the eight How you were seventeen at this time?

983
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: Front nineteen named the Bubble Hill so weird. I live

984
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: in that neighborhood now, it's so crazy, so crazy. Uh yeah,

985
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: hung out. We went to see what he's all right,

986
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: We're going to movies tomorrow, meet usaid whatever Broadway and

987
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: seventy ninth or whatever the funk it was. We all

988
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: and you know, and I'm out there waiting. The next thing,

989
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,479
Speaker 1: you know, there's whatever, three limos, four limos of guys

990
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: and ship and chicks, and we saw she's gotta have it.

991
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: Spike Lee was selling T shirts outside the theaters. First

992
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: time I met Spike what uh oh my god. We're

993
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: talking in the movie the whole time. I can only

994
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: imagine no, no, no special screening for him, No, no,

995
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: no no. I was just like, it's like, there's a

996
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: black guy making that made his own movie. Let's go

997
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: see it and we saw she's gotta have it hung

998
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: out and you know he's asking me about you know,

999
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: I was. I guess I was like his liaison to

1000
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: the streets, to the club to you know, he was

1001
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: thinking about touring and ship. So it's like a lot

1002
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 1: of like is so and so still there. It was

1003
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: like a lot of that ship him asking me about

1004
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: comedians and ship and uh, he's like, hey, we're going

1005
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: to l A tomorrow. You want to hang Yeah? What then?

1006
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: Why that means get on the plane or do they

1007
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: did you send you a pen? He goes, No, fruity,

1008
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: make sure Chris Rock's gotta ticket. And it's like, fruity,

1009
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: he gets Chris Rock a ticket. I'm there and it's

1010
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: this is your first trip, it's my first plane ride.

1011
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: Was it in mind? I mean, was it a mind

1012
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: for you? It was a mind funk? A little bit.

1013
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: It was a mind fuck. Uh, it was a little

1014
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: bit of a mind funck without the l A state,

1015
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: up state, up first hotels, all that ship met our

1016
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: CITYO met Robert Towson met Keenan met Damon met you know,

1017
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: you know all the other Waynes brothers, Sean and Marlin. Uh.

1018
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: Time everybody's in l A. Did you not know them

1019
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 1: from their New York run? Damon a new Damon? I

1020
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: wot's say Damon had been on SNL for a minute. Uh,

1021
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: oh that's right. Forgot about that too. Yeah, I want

1022
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: to say Damon been on SNL for a minute, but uh,

1023
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: I ended up with two lines of Beverly Hills cop Uh.

1024
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: Audition for the Tonight show didn't get it, but Eddie's

1025
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: manager liked me, so I ended up being signed by

1026
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 1: Eddie's manager and Richie Tinkin just in one fell swoop

1027
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 1: like yeah, everybody for a second, you know, like you know,

1028
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: it's like like we are like every guy's like the

1029
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: next Jordan, right or the next Lebron. I was one

1030
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: of the you know, I was a guy might be

1031
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: next Yeah, this guy might be the next Eddie Murphy.

1032
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: I was like, when you did that for the first time,

1033
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: when you did Our Senio for the first time, how

1034
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: far was that? Because I remember the night you did

1035
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: your first our Site. That was probably a couple of

1036
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: years after that. I was in high school, so it

1037
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,879
Speaker 1: was like our Citio. We did that Uptown Comedy Express

1038
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: thing Uptown Comedy. Yeah, so we did that No Uptown

1039
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 1: Comedy Express was HBO special right right with like Marshall Warfors,

1040
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: Marshall Field, Barry Sobel. Yeah, I remember that. Robert got

1041
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: in trouble for watching that. Have you played with Eddie?

1042
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 1: Have you been in the basement and had to play drums?

1043
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: I got summoned to work on some music. There you go.

1044
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: He hired me twice to dj. Uh there's parties for him?

1045
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: Um but yeah, I think, yeah, we just gave each other.

1046
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: I guess too. I think knowing you is Eddie Murphy enough?

1047
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, you know, you know, like when

1048
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: you might not want to meet sir, I wouldn't want

1049
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: to meet Michael Jackson. I don't know if I want

1050
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: to meet Eddie Murphy. Yeah, no, no, I'm hey man,

1051
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm you say, like he's still the funniest guy in

1052
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: the room, the funniest at the room. He's still the

1053
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: funniest guy in a room. And even I still a

1054
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: little bit fucking intimidated by him. I just hung out

1055
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: with him. But he likes you, and you know, he

1056
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago. Sometimes he likes me. But

1057
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 1: howel out that you've come up. He's been great I can't.

1058
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's usually the first call when I do

1059
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: something good. Whatever he's so the night after bringing the pain,

1060
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 1: everything changed. Yes, he was the first call, literally first call,

1061
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: and what he said just you did it great. It

1062
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 1: was amazing, all that ship, every everything you want to hear,

1063
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, Eddie sein felt whatever, But I was. I

1064
01:10:56,120 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: was with Eddie. We we share a business manager. Uh,

1065
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: we share a business manager. Me, Eddie and Arsineo have

1066
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 1: the same business manager. And you know, we go little head.

1067
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 1: He's not broke, so I guess this guy's good. So anyway,

1068
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: our business manager was getting married, and so we're all

1069
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: at because you want to go to your business manager's wedding,

1070
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 1: you don't, you don't. You don't want to mad at

1071
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 1: you for anything we've got, you know. So we're all

1072
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: flying back. We Eddie had a plane going back, so

1073
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: we flew back together. So it's me, Eddie and ar

1074
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: Cineo on a plane together, just fucking chilling, talking talking

1075
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:36,560
Speaker 1: ship and at one point Eddie's talking about watching the

1076
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: hip hop otters and ship and he said something about

1077
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: he met carriss One and he starts doing a caress

1078
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: One impression. It's the funniest ship in the world, Carriss

1079
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy going, my raps will destroy you. He has

1080
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 1: probably might do one. Caress One's the funniest shit ever.

1081
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: My wraps will destroy you, like the ultimate over annunciator.

1082
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: I had no idea you didn't do as you know,

1083
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: like the hashtag well actually is on the line that okay,

1084
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: So whenever Jay z Ivant caress one, it's always well, actually,

1085
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: raps will destroy you. I told that to Dave and

1086
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: Cute Tip one night, and pretty much anytime we text

1087
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: each other it ends with my my wraps will destroy you.

1088
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: When's the last time you texted that to Cute Tip?

1089
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. Two weeks ago. You know, you want

1090
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: to know something when cut Tip was in the scene

1091
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: that you're in now, you mustn't type that to him

1092
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: because he's like, he was going to explain the inside joke.

1093
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: He's like, wait, Chris has this joke about he said

1094
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: about and he's like, no, it's too far to go into.

1095
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm almost certain that that was Dave.

1096
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: You know, Dave will start crying the thought of Eddie

1097
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: doing caress one, So like, how do you nuance? First

1098
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: of all, my raps caress every time he lives in

1099
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 1: l A. Now he lives in to pinker Canyon and

1100
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: whenever I see him, I go to pank A Canyon,

1101
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: to pang A Canyon, and he's another He's another anti

1102
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 1: airplane rapper. He doesn't fly. Oh God, every summer he

1103
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: turns down the roots picnic because, uh, the Queen Mary.

1104
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: It's it's a two week process for him to take

1105
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: the boat boat dog Harris one. There there are there

1106
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: are a slew of rappers from the eighties that are

1107
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: definitely afraid of flying. Rock him carriss One like pretty

1108
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: much if they were under the Rush roster. Maybe he

1109
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: was a bad flight one time in their lives. Public

1110
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 1: Enemy is the only group active maybe l O that

1111
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 1: I know that has gotten over flying to Europe or

1112
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: flying anywhere. Carriss One, Uh will drive himself to any

1113
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 1: place in the United States. He won't get on the

1114
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: plane in the United States. And yeah him and rock

1115
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: him take the Queen Mary. I didn't even know that before. Yes,

1116
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: the Queen Mary to to England and mentor Europe that way.

1117
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: Well here's the crazy thing. I will bet. I'll bet

1118
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: you a thousand dollars right now. One of them can't

1119
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: swiping to say you won't take that bet. So I mean, alright,

1120
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: so when you're establishing, I'm assuming that you're I'm assuming

1121
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 1: that you're New York. You're you're New York base of comedy. Uh.

1122
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: I think I made a too earlier. I think I

1123
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 1: made a record in the studio. What Buster and eminem

1124
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: like on an unreleased Buster record or something. This is

1125
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: not the place Tupac with shot? Yes it is. This

1126
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 1: is Quad. I thought it was no elevator downstairs? Were

1127
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 1: you in the right or the left elevator when you

1128
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: got it? When he came in, Q, he got shot

1129
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 1: in a lot B Yes, downstairs Quad? This is not

1130
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: this is two PACs. I came in, Okay. When you

1131
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 1: walked in the door, did you get on the right

1132
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 1: elevator or the left elevator? Okay, I gotta look at

1133
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: it again, right or left elevator? What block will be

1134
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: on at night? You're in denial, dude? Yes, I was

1135
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: there that night. Yes, I think this is I think

1136
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 1: they move Quad. No, dog, I know this place because

1137
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: I made I made no Sex in the champagne room

1138
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: at Quad, and all my all my albums were at

1139
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 1: Quadqua a little bit electric lady, Let did you do

1140
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: the stuff for an Older Baster second album? Yes, the

1141
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 1: Old Dirty Bastt second album. Yeah, yeah, was upstairs Corell

1142
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: and oldb upstairs. I was downstairs. That wasn't playing. Was happening.

1143
01:16:56,120 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: I wanted Old Dirty Bassett for my album and wanted

1144
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: on walls no more. So I did my part of

1145
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: Old Dirty Bassett's album right, because I'm a professional. Of course,

1146
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: by the time it was time for ODB to do

1147
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 1: whatever sketch we wrote for my album, he was too

1148
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 1: fucked up to do it. So he's in the booth

1149
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: and he's just spouting shit. He's just high as mother.

1150
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: He might have been swatting at imaginary flies like he

1151
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: was so fucked up. He completely made it all up.

1152
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: He completely made it all up. And my man Ali

1153
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 1: thought of a concept. Ali Leroy thought of the concept

1154
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: Words of Wisdom with the Old Dirty Baskett, And so

1155
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 1: me Ali and Prince Paul and we're like, okay, so,

1156
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 1: who who are your peers at this at this point?

1157
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 1: What is your home? Basis a cancer rising, starry home?

1158
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: Basis that the comedy seller Now well, no, not now,

1159
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 1: but I'm saying back in my peers, Adam Sandlers, my

1160
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: pier Colin Quinn's my pier, Mario Joyners, my Pierre Brett

1161
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: Butler is my pier. Uh. John Ridley, who wrote Yeah,

1162
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 1: was a was a comedian. Wait what was a comedian?

1163
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: You know what? I told me that John Ridley was

1164
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: a comedian. He worked with all of us. Was my

1165
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: pier uh. Scott Carter, the longtime producer of Bill Mars Show,

1166
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 1: was my pier. Um. Yeah. Lots of cool cats. Gary

1167
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: Laser uh, Fred Stoler Uh, Jim Mandrinos, like guys you

1168
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: just never heard of. But are they still actively working? Oh? Yeah? Everybody.

1169
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 1: Nobody quits this ship. Where do you just go to Vegas?

1170
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: Like in your mind? Now, are you like I gotta

1171
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:06,560
Speaker 1: avoid Reno? No? I mean you'll be there eventually, you know,

1172
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: if you're lucky put Away, your career is basically Vegas.

1173
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 1: You want to stay near Caesar's Palace. But as your career,

1174
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 1: as you get older, you're gonna move further down the strip,

1175
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: and you just want to avoid circus circus, circus circus

1176
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 1: in the rif you want to. Hopefully you don't get

1177
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: that far down there, but you know, but even if

1178
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: you get down there, it's at Leasha's still working. It's

1179
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: more than you can make someplace else. So no part

1180
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: of Vegas or a Lake city residencies are like eventually, eventually,

1181
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: you know, everybody's doing these residencies now. I don't my

1182
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: kids are here. I wouldn't want to do it now,

1183
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: but maybe someday. I don't know. I'm not against it.

1184
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I would hope. I'm

1185
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: always touring, I would hope. I like touring a little bit,

1186
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I like going to San

1187
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: Antonio and doing walking the River Walk during the day

1188
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: and going by the Alamo in person. There's no basement

1189
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:24,640
Speaker 1: in the Alamo, all right, so I gotta do that.

1190
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: That's from Peure I was seeing deep got to walk

1191
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: out of the Alamo and say that large marg Oh yeah,

1192
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 1: any okay, okay, anyway, raps will destroy you. That's the

1193
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 1: cute tip dance break My raps will destroy you. So

1194
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 1: how did you get the role of Pooky and audition

1195
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: audition read for it? Uh Doug and George, Doug mckenry,

1196
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: George Jack Where the producers Marl Van Peoples saw me

1197
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: A woman named Joan Fields was my agent at the time.

1198
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: She was the only black agent at William Morris. She

1199
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: just died not too long ago. And uh, she was

1200
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: the only black agent at William Morris. And she got

1201
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 1: me the audition. I guess she was tight with uh

1202
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: for Doug and George and they got she got me

1203
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: in there, and I kind of got the part. I mean,

1204
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 1: I hear they wanted Martin Lawrence now, um, because you know,

1205
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: Martin Lawrence was amazing and he still is amazing. Uh.

1206
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, they had no money so that

1207
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 1: I think they would have had to fly Martin in

1208
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: and I happen to live in Brooklyn, Like I remember

1209
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: driving my mother's car to the set the first day.

1210
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 1: You know, it was a low, low budget movie. No one,

1211
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: No one picked me up. What was what did you

1212
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: have to read? What part of it? The scene? The

1213
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: scene that our auditioned for was the one where me

1214
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 1: and the girl fought over the chicken in the hallway

1215
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 1: correck like like whatever. I think I had lived that line,

1216
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: but uh so weird. I wonder what happened to that girl.

1217
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,719
Speaker 1: I was about to ask people, are I have no idea?

1218
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 1: I used to date the girl that when he asked,

1219
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 1: does she have a milking titties? One night we're watching

1220
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: and she's like, there you go. I was like, you

1221
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 1: got where's the roots? What's what's the roots? Cover album?

1222
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 1: Where is that? Like? This is hey, my favorite, my

1223
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 1: favorite rage against the Machine albums to cover album. That

1224
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 1: Ship is hot, the Rick Ruben fucking fucking rage against

1225
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 1: the Machine doing pistol grip pump ship exactly. Microphone Fine,

1226
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: it's cool, but you know what kill a man? That

1227
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 1: ship is hot. It's cool like Evil Empire for me

1228
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 1: is that's that's I have all their ship. But that

1229
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 1: as an album to listen to, you want to listen

1230
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 1: to like eight records in a row. Yo, what you've

1231
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 1: called it? The Dylan thing they did? Uh Maggie's Farm,

1232
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 1: Chris is secretly by the way, Chris basically yeah, he

1233
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: student do a cover record. Do the Maggie's do that record? Essentially?

1234
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: And you said it because Trick is great, he's our executive.

1235
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to prove i'mna great imitator and he's a

1236
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 1: great interpreter. I'm gonna prove to Chris that we still

1237
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: have good songs in this Dude, no one say you

1238
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 1: don't still have good song You think to prove that

1239
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: if I could make a fucking album right now somebody

1240
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 1: else's jokes. You don't think I would do that ship

1241
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 1: to have But I have to prove I got something

1242
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 1: to prove with myself. I've I've I'll say that I've

1243
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 1: dj more than I ever have in the last eight years,

1244
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 1: of which this is also the longest gap of no

1245
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: roots material since rich I was with you the day

1246
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 1: that rich our producer died finishing uh top five. We

1247
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: haven't made an album since. So yeah, you should do

1248
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: it cover rap and do two new records at the

1249
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: end of the record. But have fun, enjoy yourself. Don't

1250
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: put yourself on this because because the reality is you

1251
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 1: have a job, and your job is a Tonight show

1252
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 1: and everything else goes from that, and you cannot make

1253
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 1: and so whatever you do will be on the side,

1254
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: and nothing as great great as made on the side

1255
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: can only be good. So but you can. But doing

1256
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 1: a cover record eliminates half the fucking work. That's my

1257
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:15,959
Speaker 1: denerro heat movement. Though I feel like I'm a great producer,

1258
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 1: I've never been a great songwriter and it's but the

1259
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: thing is, it's all covers what sometimes he covers himself.

1260
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 1: But I'm the best, but I'm saying that. I feel, Okay,

1261
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 1: let's get somebody else to sing good to you. Not

1262
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: having the thing tomorrow, I feel I feel like the

1263
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 1: best producers in in the hip hop were also DJs.

1264
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize that after I saw Uh, the

1265
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,600
Speaker 1: n w A movie and realized the the rest in

1266
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 1: the stress that Dr Dre was under as a DJ

1267
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 1: at that roller Scape rink, which is basically like you

1268
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 1: played the wrong right. Then I realized, oh, the pressure

1269
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 1: of Dre being a DJ. I had that same pressure

1270
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 1: last month at the White House where you know, uh,

1271
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 1: when you're in a room with three thousand people and

1272
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 1: it's like you're playing some trapshit and Springsteen's frowning at

1273
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,600
Speaker 1: you because he can't dance trap shit. But then you

1274
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 1: play like Michael Jackson and those two are happy, but

1275
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 1: then like Malee and Sassia over there frowning because they don't.

1276
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 1: It's such a high pressured moment, but it's made me.

1277
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 1: I feel like it's educated me more. Being a DJ

1278
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: these last five years has educated me more about songwriting

1279
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 1: structure than my first eighteen years as a route, so

1280
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 1: I don't even count even your beloved things of all apart,

1281
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: I don't account none of that anymore. I want one

1282
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 1: more go around at making a fresh album before I

1283
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 1: start just doing the side projects. Thank you, this was

1284
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 1: and O d B. Occasionally I get offers to bring

1285
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: C Before back CE Before as what bring it back

1286
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: as what like? Offers to play festivals and stuff group,

1287
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: And well, what would I do if I brought C

1288
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 1: Before back? I would record an album of covers. That's

1289
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 1: what the funk I do. But there's less. There's less,

1290
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: and I would tour with that album with covers, and

1291
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 1: I would make millions of dollars. Or I could try

1292
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: to write fucking ten great CB board songs, but they're

1293
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 1: not gonna play as before like cfore as the novelty

1294
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 1: B and CB group. But the roots should do I

1295
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 1: got what's like. The roots can make more money doing

1296
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: I got it made than special lead can make do

1297
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 1: what I got it made. The roots can make more

1298
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 1: money doing. I can name ten songs that the roots

1299
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 1: absolutely you mean remix too, not just do the I'm

1300
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 1: not saying, I'm saying, do your thing to it. I

1301
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: can think you and I can think of literally twenty

1302
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 1: songs him why my beautiful, twisted, dark Fantasy. It is

1303
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 1: the best album of all times. Let's come back to that. Hey, hey,

1304
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 1: came up with Problems. It's a cover what Yeah? Rick

1305
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 1: Rubin calls me up. He goes, Jay Z is coming in.

1306
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 1: What should I play him? Because Rick Rubin believed Rick

1307
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 1: Ruben is a cover guy too. Rick Rubin's basically, you're

1308
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 1: gonna find yourself through doing covers. You cover the ship

1309
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,639
Speaker 1: you like. So if I have the Chili Preppers coming

1310
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: and they like I can't always get what you want,

1311
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,719
Speaker 1: why don't you play can't always get what you want? First?

1312
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 1: Why don't you play ten and stay away to happen?

1313
01:28:56,080 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 1: And through playing these other records you will define. You

1314
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,679
Speaker 1: will find anyway. So he's like, what should I play?

1315
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 1: Jay and I had two records just because we you know,

1316
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,600
Speaker 1: we always listen to music, Me and Rick and I

1317
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 1: was like, play the ninety nine Problems and play them

1318
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 1: this other weird record, Canna get a Table dance? Uh,

1319
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: ninety nine Problems is a weird record. Ninety nine Problems

1320
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: is a record that was on an Ice T album

1321
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 1: when he got kicked off Warner Brothers, and I'm just

1322
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 1: the guy that listens to everybody's whole album. So I

1323
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:34,599
Speaker 1: heard so I heard it then, and me and Rick

1324
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 1: just loved the record anyway. He plays it for j J.

1325
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 1: Loves it, totally turns it into his own thing. And

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01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 1: you know, it's one of his biggest records. It's it's

1327
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 1: definitely one of his biggest records live. How similar is it?

1328
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 1: It's the same hook, So there you go. I have

1329
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:59,560
Speaker 1: I know what I'm talking about. What made you choose this?

1330
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: It's the greatest hook ever. It's a great hook. I'm

1331
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 1: not saying it. I have a girl problems. Don't feel

1332
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:08,560
Speaker 1: bad for your son. I got ninety problems with a

1333
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:16,679
Speaker 1: bitch eight was hitting it. I wanted to be a rapper.

1334
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 1: I just couldn't wrap. So there you go. That it

1335
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 1: was weird. If it weren't for New Jack City, I

1336
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 1: don't know well New Jack City and the subsequent four

1337
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,799
Speaker 1: star uh leave review that Ice Tea got Rolling Stone

1338
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 1: for the O G Original Gangster album. I probably probably

1339
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:37,719
Speaker 1: want to listen to it. That's a really good album,

1340
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: but it was I love that record, and that's his

1341
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,600
Speaker 1: best album to me, Like that's no what would you

1342
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 1: played yourself on it? That power? Freedom of speech? Just

1343
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 1: what you say? You like? You like that one better?

1344
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,680
Speaker 1: I love it. You played yourself. It's just amazing record. Chris,

1345
01:30:55,920 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 1: How long is this fucking thing? It's nine hour? Is

1346
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 1: now it's a three hour? Really sorry, but we're having

1347
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 1: but okay, he's about to change all his means like

1348
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 1: apparently I have another ninety minutes left. Now, we'll wrap

1349
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 1: it up in ninety minutes. Um, it's not Brandon Steven Glover. Okay,

1350
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 1: who you Donald Glover's brother? Yeah? Who writes? He looks

1351
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 1: like h Vernon reach it? Yeah, I got, I got,

1352
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:37,639
Speaker 1: no shame I want to work on like, oh get

1353
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 1: that guy? You want to do Atlanta? No, I don't.

1354
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:42,600
Speaker 1: I love it so much. I don't want to be

1355
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 1: on it. I love Atlanta so much, like like I

1356
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 1: like when I talked to I was like, no guest stars,

1357
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: just fucking you know what I mean? I like it

1358
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 1: should be like a Dre record. It should only be

1359
01:31:54,160 --> 01:32:00,560
Speaker 1: But you didn't dog Yeah right, you know not. Empires

1360
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 1: are just figured. I just did that because the Empires.

1361
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 1: No Atlanta, No, Atlanta is like the greatest ship ever

1362
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 1: it's like some ship we dreamed about, Like Obama should

1363
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 1: have mentioned it in his speech, like we did it,

1364
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 1: Yes we can. It's like Atlanta. Is that good? Some

1365
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 1: ship we didn't think we'd ever see. Well, that's good

1366
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: that you you jumped the trainer. But yeah, I'm already

1367
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: like okay, how how how I can be down? Oh?

1368
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 1: You're down? You're down. So his brother writes his brother.

1369
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean I talked to him and he was like,

1370
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 1: hire my brother. I'm like, yeah, sure, whatever whatever you

1371
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 1: say there, whatever whatever you say, Mr Gambino. I'm like,

1372
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm rolling with you. You have your pa. I don't

1373
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:50,799
Speaker 1: got my I'm just like I'm not gonna be stupid,

1374
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 1: Like this ship is hot. You know a lot of

1375
01:32:56,479 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 1: times with black stuff anyway, No one people don't think

1376
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:05,679
Speaker 1: it's written. People like kinda people overlook the nerd factor.

1377
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 1: They think it's naturally done. Yes, they think it's you know,

1378
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 1: they think everything is just natural, and these niggers just

1379
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 1: show up and they yeah, they don't realize that the

1380
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 1: stories were broken and you know, scripts were written and rewritten.

1381
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:22,719
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, yeah, I always described that if Woody

1382
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 1: Allen were allowed to direct Masterpiece about it, about it,

1383
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 1: I think it was the greatest. No, but I feel

1384
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 1: like that's I mean, Atlanta me is like a surrealist,

1385
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:39,639
Speaker 1: high intellectual surrealist comedy that you know, that that has

1386
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 1: the grittiness of a you know, of a masterpiece. It

1387
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:48,600
Speaker 1: literally it does have the grittiness of the intellect of

1388
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 1: how people at least the perception of, you know, of

1389
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 1: Woody Allen comedy. But does that not make Donald Glover

1390
01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:00,879
Speaker 1: like a unicorn, like Donald Glover childish gambino in himself,

1391
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 1: like as a comedian, producer, writer, artists. No, No, he's

1392
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 1: doing the thing he's doing. You know, he was pulling

1393
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 1: an ice cube, you know. See. Now last week he

1394
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 1: told me as well, well Will, I mean he's Will

1395
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 1: too in a sense, I mean Will's yeah, I guess

1396
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I mean his music is good.

1397
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 1: I love this new album of us. He's not Will,

1398
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 1: He's not willing. That this is I mean Will Will's movie.

1399
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 1: Sh It's just you can't nobody can work with it really,

1400
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 1: but he's doing it in It's weird because he can

1401
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 1: still be him. Like, I feel like it's fascinating that

1402
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 1: Atlanta so black as it is but I mean it's

1403
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 1: just like Ice Cub wrote Friday. We forget Ice Cub

1404
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 1: wrote Friday like he wrote yeah it No, no, he

1405
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:52,760
Speaker 1: wrote it. I remember I was. I was the Chris

1406
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 1: Tucker part, probably for like eight hours one day, and

1407
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 1: like they were gonna pay me eighty grand and he

1408
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 1: did it for forty or something like that. I forget.

1409
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's weird because I remember Cube telling me

1410
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 1: as a guy that one. By the way, he's a

1411
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 1: thousand times better in the I wouldn't have been that good.

1412
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't have been as good as Chris Tucker.

1413
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 1: Chris Tucker is perfect for the part. But I remember

1414
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 1: Cube kind of telling me in a car like I

1415
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 1: had a meeting with him and he made me listen

1416
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:24,600
Speaker 1: to a whole Lynch Mob album. So I'm like in

1417
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: a car with Yeah, I'm in a car with Cube

1418
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 1: kind of smoking a joint? Is he He's playing Lynch

1419
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 1: Mob records and they were okay? But you just like,

1420
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 1: when what's the part with Ice Cube? No neck? You know,

1421
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 1: is yo yo on this one or not? Yeah? Exactly

1422
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 1: all right. So yeah, a long career I've been around,

1423
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 1: so you and I have something in common that that

1424
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 1: we both are love our dads. Yeah, well yeah, black

1425
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 1: guys that love their dads. That's we went to the

1426
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 1: high schools a couple of us, will Smith, grat Hill,

1427
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 1: that's a bunch of us. But you and I went

1428
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 1: to thirty Rock University. Thirty Rock. Yes, I definitely went

1429
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 1: to thirty Rock University. I mean, in hindsight, I'm sure

1430
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 1: that you have nothing but positive things to say. But

1431
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 1: the thing I always wanted to know about thirty Rock

1432
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 1: is that, I mean, and we're now in two thousand seventeen.

1433
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so politically correct and you know, if

1434
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 1: there are any vices, people hide it. But just all

1435
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 1: that folklore that I've read about, like the SNL or

1436
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 1: history book and about like you know, the the the

1437
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 1: binge days of you know, all the there's not even

1438
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 1: smoking there now, like, oh no, it was Harold. We

1439
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 1: smoked in the refrigerator. I had no mand it, you know,

1440
01:36:56,880 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 1: I had Chris Fawley Man. I had Chris Fawley. I'm

1441
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 1: not gonna blow up too many. Put it this way.

1442
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 1: In my cast dead right, Phil Hartman's wife shot him

1443
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 1: in the head. That you know what I mean? Like,

1444
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 1: so I mean, this ship was rock and roll. Motherfucker.

1445
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 1: This ship was like so weird. When I got hired

1446
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 1: at that s no, I lived in Brooklyn because I

1447
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,559
Speaker 1: wasn't moving to Manhattan because I couldn't get a cab

1448
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:29,720
Speaker 1: in man Head right, and I couldn't park a car,

1449
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 1: so it was like what the fuck? Just cost too

1450
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 1: much Parker car. I was never gonna get a cab

1451
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 1: fun this ship right Stan in Brooklyn, and I remember

1452
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 1: everybody was so uh Lauren, and everybody was concerned about

1453
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 1: me living in Brooklyn. I was the one that ever

1454
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 1: concerned about. Mean, while Chris is the guy who died

1455
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,639
Speaker 1: basically living o d you know what I mean, everybody

1456
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 1: everybody was worried about the new black guy living who

1457
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:54,800
Speaker 1: wasn't living in the I was living Fort Green. But

1458
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 1: oh do you mean like showing up one time or

1459
01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 1: just like just concerned for your safety. It was just

1460
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 1: or how you were blend in with them, not even

1461
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 1: blend in with him, just like who recommends did you

1462
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 1: audition or audition? A guy named James Dixon who's Jon

1463
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 1: Stewart's agents, and a couple other people who was the

1464
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 1: Higgins at the time, who's the Higgins that the Higgins

1465
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:23,639
Speaker 1: at the time was Jim Downey. And who's Higgins? Who's

1466
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:27,560
Speaker 1: the head writer? Higgins is our Sideki no no no, no,

1467
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 1: no no. And and Senator Al Franken. Oh, keep forgetting

1468
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 1: I forgot so Al Franken was a senator, he was

1469
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 1: I think they were both the head writers. Uh. Conan

1470
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 1: O'Brien was a writer on the show. Uh. Bob oten

1471
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 1: Kirk was a writer on the show. Yeah. Did you

1472
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 1: ever have any issues with the things that you wrote

1473
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 1: on that show? I always wondered, like, is it ever

1474
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:57,599
Speaker 1: too black for S and L or too black? Nothing

1475
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 1: was ever too black. It was just it was a situation, aation.

1476
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 1: First of all, I had an amazing time at SNL

1477
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 1: is the best thing. It's absolutely the best thing that

1478
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 1: ever happened to me. Yeah, because it kind of made

1479
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 1: me legit, you know what I mean, Like it was

1480
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 1: like graduating Harvard, which you did for the up and

1481
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 1: coming comedians from Howard and stuff made it even Yeah,

1482
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean like I was. I was on SNL man,

1483
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 1: It is only you know, come on, like sn L

1484
01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: forgetting even black, Like SNL is the X Men School

1485
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 1: of comedy. Okay, did Eddie give you any kind of

1486
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 1: preparation on what to expect. Eddie. The only thing Eddie

1487
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 1: told me. He kept telling me, it's like, just just

1488
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:41,640
Speaker 1: make sure you write stuff for update because it's the

1489
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 1: easiest spot to get on. UM. But what was your question?

1490
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 1: I was just asking. It wasn't ever too edgy or

1491
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 1: black to where they were like it was to edgy

1492
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 1: or black. It was like, it's like this situation just

1493
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 1: white people in general. It's like the things they understand

1494
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 1: about black people tends to be has to have a

1495
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 1: racial element to it. So a lot of stuff I

1496
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:08,720
Speaker 1: did it was more obvious like net X chilling, like

1497
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 1: that stuff is like obvious black stuff, you know what

1498
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean. It wasn't really all the weird. I wasn't

1499
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 1: allowed to get into my weird side the other you know,

1500
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 1: like you so it had to be it had to

1501
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 1: be black. Yeah, so it had to be black. I mean,

1502
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 1: so you know, it's not that it's just white people

1503
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 1: in general. Is that the arsenio factor kicking in? Was

1504
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:34,760
Speaker 1: that the living color factor kicking in? I got hired

1505
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:36,560
Speaker 1: because of the living color I got hired just like

1506
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:40,840
Speaker 1: every like whatever that the girl I keep forgetting her

1507
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 1: name I was from. Yeah, I got hired pretty much

1508
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 1: under the same circumstances. SNL hadn't had a black cast

1509
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:54,640
Speaker 1: member in nine years, and Living Color was hopping, and

1510
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:56,680
Speaker 1: they went out looking for a black cast member, and

1511
01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:01,600
Speaker 1: you know I got the job. Um but um, I

1512
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 1: forgot what else you're ready to say? No, just white

1513
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 1: people in general, when they're looking for black stuff, they

1514
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 1: tend to like something either ridiculously black. It basically goes

1515
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 1: to the Tracy Borgan or Larry Wilmore, you know what

1516
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 1: I mean, Like in the middle, in the middle, nothing

1517
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: in the middle. Nothing I'm taking because you explain, But

1518
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 1: do you explain in your whole and your whole theory

1519
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:29,720
Speaker 1: of you did a joke about Obama could only hope

1520
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 1: to be mediocre? Is again, it's like, you know, it's

1521
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 1: either the perception that we're animals or we are super huge.

1522
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 1: Not calling any person an animal. Let's just let's get up.

1523
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 1: Well no, no, no, but I've meant like just whatever

1524
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 1: the one side of the spectrum where it's the extreme

1525
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 1: its triple raw or extreme caricature versus extreme intellect. But

1526
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 1: the thing with being ground zero middle is that that's

1527
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:02,720
Speaker 1: just regular human yes, which is harder to Yeah, I

1528
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 1: mean that's what's Hey, that's why it let us genius,

1529
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 1: because it walks that thing. It's like, I was very rounded.

1530
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 1: I was recently told by a bunch of white women

1531
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 1: take a like a comedy class. They sound I made

1532
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 1: one joke. I get really nervous about making black jokes

1533
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:18,760
Speaker 1: in front of white people, and so when I did

1534
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:20,720
Speaker 1: finally write one, they were like, oh my god, we

1535
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 1: love it. Tell us more about ourselves, tell us about

1536
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 1: white women. And I was like, really, but that's to

1537
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 1: see that. That bothers me too, because I feel like

1538
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 1: that's almost like fetishizing or you know, the whole guilt

1539
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 1: the guilt factor kicking in. And I was wondering if

1540
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 1: it was a set up. I didn't know, but I

1541
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:38,639
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I got a lot though, that's that's

1542
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:44,799
Speaker 1: a set up. I'm sorry, that's a set up, sup.

1543
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 1: So okay, see you you're you're fine with your experience there,

1544
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 1: and the best experience is literally the best thing that

1545
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 1: I ever happened to me. I met the best people,

1546
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:58,759
Speaker 1: uh not just I mean, hey, I got exposed about

1547
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 1: around a bunch of many So you know, I'm a

1548
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:07,839
Speaker 1: guy from bed sty who came through this white system.

1549
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 1: So I still I'm still the guy who has to

1550
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:15,599
Speaker 1: go and with my uncle to go get the guns

1551
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 1: before the bad cousins come. And at the same time,

1552
01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:22,600
Speaker 1: I know, Conan O'Brien, how can you funk with me?

1553
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 1: You can't funk with me, you know. I mean that's

1554
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 1: all like, that's a lot of route, that's a lot

1555
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:32,759
Speaker 1: of education, alright. So that leads me to the period

1556
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:38,680
Speaker 1: between you something for um, I'm sorry I cut you off.

1557
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 1: I wrote I think SNL. We edited a Spin magazine

1558
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 1: and I wrote an article about the end of the

1559
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 1: black super comic is coming because TV was getting more segregated,

1560
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 1: and the black super comic is me. Okay, let's take

1561
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:01,599
Speaker 1: me of it, because that sounds I saw, I saw

1562
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 1: like a cornerback, right. But you know, there's a reason

1563
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy, Richard pryor all the greatest black comedians, the

1564
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 1: greatest comedians in America tend to be black. It's because

1565
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 1: you had to work these two systems in a world

1566
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:23,000
Speaker 1: that everybody else has to work one. So you're saying

1567
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:25,800
Speaker 1: Sam Cook record in Harlem, which is more blacker than

1568
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:29,760
Speaker 1: the Sam Cook record at the Coppa records come out. Yeah,

1569
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 1: this is the same thing that produced Michael Jackson. And

1570
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 1: like the the fact that you had to work two

1571
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 1: audiences in a world everybody else worked one. It's like,

1572
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:44,440
Speaker 1: how do how can they funk with you? It's impossible.

1573
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 1: Can't funk with a guy that could work the Apollo

1574
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 1: and Carnie Haul. You can't funk with that anyway. But

1575
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:56,880
Speaker 1: the thing is you're talking about two audiences though. But

1576
01:44:57,240 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 1: I feel like now you specifically, there's there's Brooklyn alternative.

1577
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:09,680
Speaker 1: There's the Brooklyn alternative stuff that I know that you

1578
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:11,720
Speaker 1: love a challenge anywhere. And I always ask you, like,

1579
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 1: would you ever go to night Training? Two weeks ago

1580
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:19,639
Speaker 1: you did night Train? Did night Train? Did? Like? Night Train?

1581
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:22,680
Speaker 1: How do you do? I did? Okay? But I did

1582
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 1: okay because I I haven't been on stage in a while.

1583
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 1: The night train and what is night Train? Just well? Okay?

1584
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 1: So night Train is like again, there's like I feel

1585
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 1: like there's three comedy universes in we're really for because

1586
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:39,479
Speaker 1: I keep taking the black factor out. But for me,

1587
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 1: my observation in New York is that Brooklyn is the

1588
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 1: comic alternative spot. So night Train is a place that's

1589
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:51,559
Speaker 1: where Wyatt would go like that, that's why it spot.

1590
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 1: It's alternative, alternative, hipster comedy spot. Uh. And then you know,

1591
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 1: I feel like in midtown Manhattan between uh, where's the

1592
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:10,880
Speaker 1: spot on Street that people sometimes go, like Amy goes

1593
01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 1: there sometimes, but there's there's like a midtown if you're

1594
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 1: midtown to sort of like seventy Street, you might be

1595
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 1: going to you know, you might be doing Vegas, you

1596
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:27,639
Speaker 1: might you're kind of mainstream, but stand well, the stand,

1597
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 1: the stand, but then the comedy seller. I feels like

1598
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 1: the Harvard. I feel like that's the hardest place to penetrate,

1599
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:38,680
Speaker 1: not because of the crowd downstairs, but I feel like

1600
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 1: if you can survive that table on the back where

1601
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:47,799
Speaker 1: He'll sit, where Crys will sit sometimes Dave me Amy

1602
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:54,320
Speaker 1: in Disease, Yeah, it's it's like Shumer Disease, Chappelle, Louis

1603
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:58,320
Speaker 1: c K. But it's like it's the it's the it's

1604
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:03,360
Speaker 1: the it's the constant traded geniuses of comedy that's there.

1605
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 1: That's their witched And I'm always curious, asked you, Chris

1606
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 1: will be like, I don't give. I will go to

1607
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:15,639
Speaker 1: alternative Brooklyn and see if I could work there Chris

1608
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:18,679
Speaker 1: Wall also, you know, try car I mean not saying

1609
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:20,680
Speaker 1: that you would ever do Carolines, but I don't know

1610
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 1: is Carolines like to you what I mean, I'll walk

1611
01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 1: I'll walk on. Eric Andre went on. I was doing

1612
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 1: some shows the Caroline. Eric Andre did like a weekend

1613
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 1: or a week at car I would expect eric Andre

1614
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 1: to do the Brooklyn spots right anyway, I opened up

1615
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:38,439
Speaker 1: for him. I like, I would you know I went

1616
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 1: on before one night? Yeah, well not unannounces. Uh. Carolins

1617
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 1: was like the last comedy club I ever played for real,

1618
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 1: like when the Ship was just you know that that

1619
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 1: gig where you, oh ship people are getting hurt. Okay,

1620
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 1: time to go to theaters. But uh wow, okay, I

1621
01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 1: just remember right around Bring the Pain. Maybe remember Louis

1622
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:03,960
Speaker 1: who wasn't even my friend at the time, but Louie

1623
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:07,800
Speaker 1: and David Cross, like Janine, all the cool kids showed up.

1624
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 1: It's like, oh okay, so something else happening. What is

1625
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 1: that period between you leaving SNL see before Yeah, it

1626
01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 1: was like maybe half a season of Living Color between

1627
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 1: between met and I'm not even saying big gass jokes,

1628
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:30,120
Speaker 1: but more like I just remember a period when you

1629
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:35,160
Speaker 1: started doing the one Hunter, collect commercials and politically correct. Yeah,

1630
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 1: I felt like Chris Rock, Like I stayed working. You

1631
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:40,720
Speaker 1: seem like a different person. Like you. You you cut

1632
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:43,639
Speaker 1: your hair, you had a your preacher's voice was now

1633
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 1: starting to develop, Like it was less about like your

1634
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 1: voice on Born Suspect and your old Chris Rock throwing

1635
01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 1: down the mic and all that stuff, Like you were

1636
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 1: now a nuanced I got older. I mean the thing

1637
01:48:56,600 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 1: with comedians, Comedians are good until they're in their thirties.

1638
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 1: This is not every everything you love about Richard Pryor

1639
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 1: he was thirty eight, forty whatever. Bill. There's no Little

1640
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 1: Wane of comedy. There's no fucking Drake of comedy. Eddie

1641
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 1: Murphy is the only He's the only guy. Literally, if

1642
01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 1: you go to your Netflix right now and just start

1643
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 1: clicking through people, you'll you'll find one two year old

1644
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy. Everybody else's grown. Because you gotta you gotta

1645
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 1: pay taxes to fucking connect to an audience. You gotta

1646
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 1: be you gotta have been loved and unloved and cheated

1647
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 1: on a motherfucking and went broke, and you know what

1648
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Like you gotta you gotta like you gotta,

1649
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 1: you know, feel the pain of just life and disappointments

1650
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 1: like I'm not who I thought I was and my

1651
01:49:57,080 --> 01:50:02,479
Speaker 1: mother ain't who I thought she was. Besides age, I mean,

1652
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:07,320
Speaker 1: besides age, besides age? What and you get older? You

1653
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 1: what made you work? Focused? What made you focus into

1654
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 1: like you know, I mean at that point of my career, honestly,

1655
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:20,439
Speaker 1: I thought I was done as trying to as far

1656
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:23,759
Speaker 1: as getting famous, So you thought, like off the Vegas

1657
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:27,719
Speaker 1: and renown. I thought like, okay, what's his name, George,

1658
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:32,120
Speaker 1: George Wallace, Yeah, like he always works. That was George

1659
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 1: my idol to this day because he's like that was

1660
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:38,560
Speaker 1: my goal. I was like, okay, this whole trying to

1661
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 1: be what does he make a year? I bet you

1662
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:44,880
Speaker 1: makes two billion dollars a year just playing Vegas, playing

1663
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 1: Vegas like city cruise, ship this, like you know, choice gigs. Yeah,

1664
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 1: she's kind of like Jimmy Buffett. I'm gonna get comedy.

1665
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:55,559
Speaker 1: I could be way off, I don't know, but I'm

1666
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 1: gonna get the quality. Like he's every comedian's favorite comedian.

1667
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:05,479
Speaker 1: He's like like a guy so oh he's great. He's

1668
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 1: great as the interviewer. I was asking that he's great.

1669
01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:13,679
Speaker 1: I've what he does. He does a thing. It's hard

1670
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 1: to realize what he's doing. It looks easy, that's what

1671
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 1: I want to know, Like, you know what I mean,

1672
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 1: it looks like he's just your uncle and he's just

1673
01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 1: coming up with this ship. But George Wallace will come

1674
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:24,080
Speaker 1: in the club and he'll have his pad and that

1675
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 1: motherfucker will try jokes and he writes jokes and sometimes

1676
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:30,040
Speaker 1: he'll buy some jokes and he's like, very serious about

1677
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 1: this by jokes. Yeah, people buy jokes sometimes. Really, have

1678
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 1: you ever had to sling jokes? Like, yo, man, I'm

1679
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 1: next week, I need something about o j I mean,

1680
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 1: you know, I watched people's acts and sometimes I give

1681
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:48,240
Speaker 1: him a line or two or whatever. The fun somebody

1682
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:49,680
Speaker 1: will give me a line. It's like, oh that thing

1683
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 1: you're working on, you know, if you try it this way,

1684
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know. And some guys just have jokes

1685
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 1: for sale. Some guys are just writers and they sell jokes.

1686
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:01,600
Speaker 1: But you know, what's the name does that right? The

1687
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 1: guy who does all the roast, doesn't he write Jeff

1688
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 1: je Frost? Yeah, I mean I don't. I'm not one

1689
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 1: of these like you gotta come up with every line.

1690
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:14,680
Speaker 1: You just gotta you know, So, do you have a

1691
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 1: crew or a cabinet of like I like, right now

1692
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 1: I have, I've written I don't know our twenty minutes

1693
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 1: worth of stuff right right? And you know, my tour

1694
01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:33,160
Speaker 1: starts February. Wait time he comes here, he's coming to

1695
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 1: tour tour. He's coming to that's next week. Hang one second, alright?

1696
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:42,639
Speaker 1: Started is We're in the third hour of this week's

1697
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:45,200
Speaker 1: episode of Quest of Supreme with our special guest Chris Rock,

1698
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:49,639
Speaker 1: who just let me know that he's about to start

1699
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:54,680
Speaker 1: his tour momentarily. Uh, but yet usually you let me

1700
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:58,800
Speaker 1: know when you're like, well no, no, no, no, no,

1701
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 1: I don't know the huge of the smith. But you

1702
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 1: usually usually towards you know, you do the small spots first,

1703
01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 1: and you start sucking around a little bit. I mean,

1704
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 1: this is weird. I've never not heard you, I've never

1705
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 1: seen you wait this long. I've never waited this long.

1706
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 1: I mean, why are you waiting this long? Like my

1707
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:19,360
Speaker 1: last three tours, I was kind of the same guy,

1708
01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:23,960
Speaker 1: so the same girl, had the same kids like I

1709
01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 1: was my last to three years. Is like, I don't

1710
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:33,040
Speaker 1: know who the funk I am divorced. I got like

1711
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:35,519
Speaker 1: I got custody, I got you know, I got I

1712
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 1: got split custody of my kids. Like so so yeah,

1713
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 1: I got teenage daughters and like I'm really trying to

1714
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:50,880
Speaker 1: figure out who I am. A lot of it's that. Um,

1715
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 1: I'm not scared. I'm gonna work out. I think I'm

1716
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:57,800
Speaker 1: gonna go to Nashville for a few days, like a week.

1717
01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:01,000
Speaker 1: Actually have some of my guys have Ali there a

1718
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 1: lance whatever? Uh, same guys. Are you bringing in new blood?

1719
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:09,400
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna bring up some new blood? Uh? I

1720
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:11,760
Speaker 1: think Jack White is going to be involved on some level.

1721
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:17,679
Speaker 1: So a third man record. Uh yo. I really regret

1722
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 1: this whole uh missing that that that that meeting, that

1723
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 1: Stoneheage meeting you guys had at Tip's house because I

1724
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 1: feel like so much business got negotiated night. That was

1725
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:33,280
Speaker 1: a good night. It was like the Tip had a

1726
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:36,400
Speaker 1: what do you call it at their funeral repost pass

1727
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 1: at after five thing. Yeah, but yeah, I mean We're

1728
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:43,120
Speaker 1: at Tip's house a lot. Just I mean when he

1729
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:45,040
Speaker 1: was working on the record, now there's no record. I

1730
01:54:45,080 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 1: don't know what he's doing now, talked him a little

1731
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 1: bit yesterday, but uh, I feel like one has to

1732
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:54,360
Speaker 1: live in Jersey. I gave my my A and R notes.

1733
01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:06,160
Speaker 1: How much of your set is worked out and how

1734
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:09,480
Speaker 1: much it's gonna be kind of I mean it, honestly,

1735
01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:12,440
Speaker 1: it's the least amount I've ever had worked out. Ever,

1736
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 1: You're not worried about it, I'm not. It's weird watching

1737
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 1: Dave relaxes me a little bit. Uh Am I worried

1738
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 1: about it. I'm worried about it. I mean, it's put

1739
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 1: his way. Worry is respect. You know. Motherfucker's that don't

1740
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:35,080
Speaker 1: worry about ship, that aren't nervous, don't respect the art.

1741
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 1: I've heard that before. So I'm definitely worried, and I'm

1742
01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:41,280
Speaker 1: definitely but I'm carving out the time. I'm carving out

1743
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:43,840
Speaker 1: the time. I'm just, uh, it's just a different me.

1744
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a father the first, you know, so

1745
01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 1: you know I've been with my kids. You know, I

1746
01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 1: got my I have my kids this weekend, you know

1747
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I'm not you know, you're still

1748
01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 1: like you gotta go pick your kids up after this.

1749
01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:01,120
Speaker 1: I drop my daughter off. It's today. I mean, like,

1750
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 1: do you kids know you're Chris Rock or they just

1751
01:56:04,160 --> 01:56:08,440
Speaker 1: know like you did the voice over for my oldest

1752
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 1: is realizing because she wants to come with me every

1753
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:13,120
Speaker 1: time I get on stage now. But but she just

1754
01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:15,720
Speaker 1: thinks like you get her into cool concerts. Oh yeah,

1755
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:19,160
Speaker 1: that's part of it. Yeah, it's like hey, but they

1756
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:23,880
Speaker 1: have like, like, what's what's bigger? Watch that the kid

1757
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:26,080
Speaker 1: their friends house, I mean what they got their own phones,

1758
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 1: they got YouTube? Would you not punch up your father?

1759
01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 1: We had eight videos on YouTube? Of course they've wanted.

1760
01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 1: But what's the ratio to dad? And oh ship, we're

1761
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 1: being raised by an A list celebrity. It's they know

1762
01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 1: not yet, yeah, because we'll know you're no, I'm already

1763
01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 1: Bruno Manis will be involved. I've already been informed that

1764
01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 1: I gotta figure out Bruno mars Is. Whereabouts of my daughters?

1765
01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 1: Howld uh fift be fifteen and thirteen? So how you

1766
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 1: doing keeping him off the pole? Yeah, they're off, They're saying,

1767
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 1: I think they're safely off to pol You can tell

1768
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 1: these things early, like like athletics. You know, you know

1769
01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:17,480
Speaker 1: if your kids going in the major leagues by the

1770
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 1: time he's twelve. You know, if your daughters on the

1771
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 1: pole by the time it's about fourteen. Okay, we're out

1772
01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:26,840
Speaker 1: of the water here. You're good, You're good. But where

1773
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 1: were we? Where were we? Uh? Yeah, I'm just uh

1774
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:33,000
Speaker 1: get ready to get on. I'm just trying to figure

1775
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 1: out where I'm gonna go to work out. So I

1776
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 1: may go to Nashville. There's a part of me I

1777
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:39,840
Speaker 1: wants to go to Baltimore. So I always make sure

1778
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 1: before I go on tour, I spend like a week

1779
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 1: in someplace really white, getting on stage in a place

1780
01:57:46,160 --> 01:57:52,120
Speaker 1: someplace really black. Are there black comedy clubs? Oh? Yes,

1781
01:57:52,160 --> 01:58:00,480
Speaker 1: there are where Atlanta, Detroit, um Mobile, Alabama. Uh, you know,

1782
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 1: there's some spots. There's definitely some spots. Just you know,

1783
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:08,080
Speaker 1: spot Earthquake plays twice a year. You know, good wet

1784
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:12,240
Speaker 1: earthquake this week, and of all Crawford's the next week.

1785
01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:16,400
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, Joe Tories come into town.

1786
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:20,080
Speaker 1: You know in Top five, the whole the jazz d character,

1787
01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 1: you know with was that actually a part of your career?

1788
01:58:24,520 --> 01:58:26,280
Speaker 1: Did you play those little clubs like that? Yeah, that

1789
01:58:26,360 --> 01:58:30,280
Speaker 1: really happened. The whole story actually happened. That happened, mother,

1790
01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:37,960
Speaker 1: motherfucking man. In Houston, Another Town jazz d damn it,

1791
01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:42,280
Speaker 1: but e Cedric knocked that ship out the park. Why

1792
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:45,080
Speaker 1: do you think that movie? Because that was I mean,

1793
01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 1: that's my favorite of your movies and the other ones

1794
01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:51,200
Speaker 1: I liked. But you know, when you were talking about

1795
01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:53,800
Speaker 1: kind of finding I guess maybe finding your way in movies,

1796
01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:56,000
Speaker 1: like you would kill it on stage, But a lot

1797
01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 1: of times in the early stuff, the humor that you

1798
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 1: had on stage, it didn't translate to the movies. What

1799
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:04,040
Speaker 1: was it about Top five that made that kind of

1800
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 1: like where it all kind of galvanized. It's a it's weird.

1801
01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:11,640
Speaker 1: Top Five is a lot like Bring the Pain. It

1802
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 1: was like a guy just trying to be good. Like

1803
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:17,320
Speaker 1: everything before Bring the Pain was a guy trying to

1804
01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:20,880
Speaker 1: be famous, and like the other movies I made, it

1805
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 1: was like it was it was almost like I was

1806
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:24,640
Speaker 1: making my own version of Adam Sailor movies in a

1807
01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 1: weird way because he's my friend and his movies are big.

1808
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,240
Speaker 1: So I was like following another blueprint, and I was

1809
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:35,080
Speaker 1: just like I was thinking about a one sheet. So

1810
01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:37,560
Speaker 1: it started with I think I love my wife probably,

1811
01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:40,760
Speaker 1: but like I had to stay down to earth and

1812
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 1: whatever else was just kind of me. Look, okay, this

1813
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:46,880
Speaker 1: is a good poster and these are good jokes for

1814
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:49,960
Speaker 1: a trailer, and I wasn't really thinking about a movie

1815
01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:54,760
Speaker 1: per se, and you know, uh yeah, I was just

1816
01:59:55,640 --> 01:59:58,080
Speaker 1: on some bullshit trying to get a hit. Still like

1817
01:59:58,840 --> 02:00:01,000
Speaker 1: still liked to stand. I said, it's got some good ship.

1818
02:00:02,360 --> 02:00:05,560
Speaker 1: But but with Top five and I think I Love

1819
02:00:05,640 --> 02:00:08,920
Speaker 1: my wife, was just like, Okay, I'm just making I'm

1820
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:11,440
Speaker 1: making what I want to make. I don't really care

1821
02:00:12,160 --> 02:00:13,560
Speaker 1: if it's a I would like it to be a

1822
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:16,320
Speaker 1: big hit, but I really I'm really more about and

1823
02:00:16,360 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 1: I've really got into to being a filmmaker too. Well

1824
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:23,720
Speaker 1: I was I didn't even care about filmmaking in those

1825
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:27,360
Speaker 1: other movies. I was just Top five was just the

1826
02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:29,520
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to say at that moment. I wasn't.

1827
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:32,440
Speaker 1: I never thought it would be a hit. Put it

1828
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:34,520
Speaker 1: that way, What did your wife think of I think

1829
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:40,760
Speaker 1: I love my wife? Well we're divorced now, So I

1830
02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:42,760
Speaker 1: made it in a weird movie because at the end

1831
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:46,600
Speaker 1: he does go to his wife. So I mean, hey, man,

1832
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:50,600
Speaker 1: was like for life, like that changed my life. I mean,

1833
02:00:50,720 --> 02:00:53,640
Speaker 1: Quentin Tarantino said something a long time ago. He said

1834
02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:56,080
Speaker 1: when you make a piece of art, if there aren't

1835
02:00:56,120 --> 02:00:58,880
Speaker 1: people in your life that are mad at you afterwards,

1836
02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:03,040
Speaker 1: you didn't make good ship it. You didn't go deep enough.

1837
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:06,960
Speaker 1: She wasn't even mad. She wasn't even mad, because the

1838
02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:10,920
Speaker 1: sentiment was, I mean, it makes you look I mean again,

1839
02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:16,280
Speaker 1: I'm divorced me. I didn't want to make your I

1840
02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:19,080
Speaker 1: didn't want to make your your your divorced part of

1841
02:01:19,120 --> 02:01:23,280
Speaker 1: the your career discussion. But since we're here in hindsight,

1842
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:27,920
Speaker 1: because I mean, after nineties six you became Did you

1843
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:31,000
Speaker 1: get married before after I got married in nine? I

1844
02:01:31,080 --> 02:01:34,000
Speaker 1: think I think were you guys got married during Bring

1845
02:01:34,120 --> 02:01:35,920
Speaker 1: the Pain? Like we got married after Bring the Pain?

1846
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:39,080
Speaker 1: I think now like I could afford a wedding after

1847
02:01:39,160 --> 02:01:44,880
Speaker 1: that in hindsight, and I guess we could pretty much

1848
02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:49,560
Speaker 1: say that ninety six was the turning point of you

1849
02:01:50,080 --> 02:01:55,520
Speaker 1: really black culture, reasonable doubt Bring the Pain. Jay z

1850
02:01:55,680 --> 02:02:03,120
Speaker 1: One his opus affected the culture more than my opus.

1851
02:02:03,320 --> 02:02:08,920
Speaker 1: Yes you think so, and we're not. We're not kissing

1852
02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:11,120
Speaker 1: your ass because there's a venue as a rapper. It

1853
02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:17,120
Speaker 1: didn't not. Here's the thing, now, that's that's the forgetting

1854
02:02:17,120 --> 02:02:20,960
Speaker 1: the references and rap songs all the time Grand Opening

1855
02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:26,040
Speaker 1: Grand Club the other day. But the thing is, Reasonable

1856
02:02:26,080 --> 02:02:29,320
Speaker 1: Doubt is also one of those albums that you were

1857
02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:33,440
Speaker 1: told it was a classic exactly. I don't remember being mad. No,

1858
02:02:33,800 --> 02:02:36,800
Speaker 1: nobody was bumping reasons doubt when we had fucking ghost Face,

1859
02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:40,600
Speaker 1: red Man and goddamn uh A t Aliens. I didn't.

1860
02:02:40,720 --> 02:02:42,720
Speaker 1: I didn't hear Reasonable Doubt until after I knew moved

1861
02:02:42,720 --> 02:02:47,080
Speaker 1: to New York. That that was. It was almost ten

1862
02:02:47,160 --> 02:02:49,760
Speaker 1: years after. Yeah, I was like, like it came out

1863
02:02:49,800 --> 02:02:51,520
Speaker 1: and I remember I was like, Okay, this is good,

1864
02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:55,720
Speaker 1: but I'm saying the the impact of Bring the Pain

1865
02:02:57,560 --> 02:03:01,840
Speaker 1: on HBO it was I think madic moments. And we

1866
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:06,320
Speaker 1: rewound it recorded, watched it over study that ship. Not

1867
02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:09,760
Speaker 1: my teachers in school. We're talking about Bringing the Pain

1868
02:03:09,880 --> 02:03:12,560
Speaker 1: like in home room, like before the bell ring, like

1869
02:03:12,760 --> 02:03:16,400
Speaker 1: they would be joking. I think you don't think there

1870
02:03:16,480 --> 02:03:23,600
Speaker 1: might not be Yeah, I don't think there's nine hundred

1871
02:03:23,600 --> 02:03:26,600
Speaker 1: million dollars in your bank account. And you know, Beyonce,

1872
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:31,480
Speaker 1: but you won that. It was a weird. It was

1873
02:03:31,480 --> 02:03:34,040
Speaker 1: a great year, some great black art cave ab out

1874
02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:38,000
Speaker 1: and uh and that was when you got married around

1875
02:03:38,440 --> 02:03:41,160
Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was a want to say hayes,

1876
02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:43,200
Speaker 1: but it was it was a world when a lot

1877
02:03:43,240 --> 02:03:45,040
Speaker 1: of ship was going on. But what I'm asking is

1878
02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:49,600
Speaker 1: at the point where you're not that you planned on,

1879
02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:55,240
Speaker 1: you know, suddenly having this meteoric rise in in this

1880
02:03:55,400 --> 02:03:58,160
Speaker 1: od ship moment happened in your life. But this is

1881
02:03:58,160 --> 02:04:01,240
Speaker 1: the moment where you becoming the industry. But this is

1882
02:04:01,320 --> 02:04:03,720
Speaker 1: also the same time that you're deciding to become a

1883
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:07,640
Speaker 1: husband and future father. And I always believe that you

1884
02:04:07,720 --> 02:04:11,000
Speaker 1: couldn't serve two guys. You're either gonna be a super

1885
02:04:11,120 --> 02:04:13,920
Speaker 1: industry or you're gonna be a family. That's what most

1886
02:04:13,960 --> 02:04:15,760
Speaker 1: guys do. I mean, I think most men marry when

1887
02:04:15,800 --> 02:04:17,120
Speaker 1: we're at the top of our game, you know what

1888
02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like we marry at that time in our career,

1889
02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:21,920
Speaker 1: but we feel like like I think the women is

1890
02:04:21,920 --> 02:04:23,600
Speaker 1: the other way around. It's like they get love and

1891
02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:25,440
Speaker 1: then think, Okay, now I have love, so now I

1892
02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:27,520
Speaker 1: can go and do whatever. But for us, it's like

1893
02:04:27,800 --> 02:04:29,840
Speaker 1: I gotta get my peace of the world before I

1894
02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:32,360
Speaker 1: can have love, because love calls like I gotta have

1895
02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:34,760
Speaker 1: I gotta baby to ford this stuff. Let know, you

1896
02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:37,000
Speaker 1: just said, like I gotta afford I could afford the weddings.

1897
02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:40,040
Speaker 1: So it's like for us, we gotta get ours first.

1898
02:04:40,120 --> 02:04:42,000
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, how hard is it to be?

1899
02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:46,720
Speaker 1: You know? Are you if Selt is calling your phone

1900
02:04:47,080 --> 02:04:51,800
Speaker 1: at PM, she's like you better not pick. I mean

1901
02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:58,520
Speaker 1: she was good. I mean, I dude, my output from

1902
02:04:58,640 --> 02:05:03,080
Speaker 1: nineties six to probably you know whatever two thousand three

1903
02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:07,640
Speaker 1: until my first daughter is ridiculous. I wrote movies, I

1904
02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:12,040
Speaker 1: wrote books, or she understood that she was very good.

1905
02:05:12,120 --> 02:05:14,800
Speaker 1: I can't sit there and you know, I wrote movies,

1906
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:18,080
Speaker 1: I wrote books, I made albums, I toured, I did

1907
02:05:18,120 --> 02:05:22,800
Speaker 1: a lot of ship. So you know, hey, I guess

1908
02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, probably could have been better if I spent

1909
02:05:25,600 --> 02:05:29,080
Speaker 1: more time at whatever. But I had to do what

1910
02:05:29,120 --> 02:05:30,640
Speaker 1: I had to do. I had to get my prints on.

1911
02:05:32,320 --> 02:05:35,320
Speaker 1: So did a TV show I didn't, you know, I

1912
02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:38,520
Speaker 1: produced Everybody Hates Chris. I did a lot of ship, man,

1913
02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:40,680
Speaker 1: I know. But that's what I'm saying, Like you can

1914
02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:47,360
Speaker 1: either industry or have the resume of an eight eight

1915
02:05:47,480 --> 02:05:54,160
Speaker 1: year old person. But he did not because he did

1916
02:05:57,000 --> 02:06:01,960
Speaker 1: a long time. And you know what, my last because

1917
02:06:01,960 --> 02:06:09,480
Speaker 1: like Hamilton's, will not last as long as my marriage. Okay, yeah,

1918
02:06:09,640 --> 02:06:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to make, you know, put things

1919
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:14,720
Speaker 1: in a positive spin, kids, because I made it ninety

1920
02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:18,720
Speaker 1: to just close to twenty years close to yeah, so yeah,

1921
02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:23,000
Speaker 1: that's you know. I mean, hey it is yeah, okay,

1922
02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:31,880
Speaker 1: and I made it and you put us together. Like

1923
02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I mean, I got great kids, all good,

1924
02:06:35,160 --> 02:06:40,200
Speaker 1: everybody's everybody's fine now, so as long as you're happy.

1925
02:06:40,280 --> 02:06:42,520
Speaker 1: So I guess at the end, everyone to do it?

1926
02:06:43,400 --> 02:06:45,840
Speaker 1: What are you asking this question based on yourself about

1927
02:06:48,200 --> 02:06:50,480
Speaker 1: it can be done, but only I can do it.

1928
02:06:52,160 --> 02:06:55,680
Speaker 1: My reps will destroy and maybe Edie because he had

1929
02:06:55,720 --> 02:06:58,760
Speaker 1: like ten kids too, I mean with the same woman.

1930
02:06:58,840 --> 02:07:05,000
Speaker 1: Well to you know, did you see that new family

1931
02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:10,160
Speaker 1: photo Jesus Christ. I didn't realize he had. Just to

1932
02:07:10,240 --> 02:07:13,520
Speaker 1: see them all together. It's like, I mean, here's the

1933
02:07:13,560 --> 02:07:20,160
Speaker 1: Wootank clan and the Jackson's like, yeah, he raised his

1934
02:07:20,240 --> 02:07:26,840
Speaker 1: own industry. That's crazy. Um So all right, I guess

1935
02:07:26,880 --> 02:07:29,240
Speaker 1: at this last moments I have with you, I just

1936
02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:31,640
Speaker 1: want to shoot the ship. What is your top five?

1937
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:40,160
Speaker 1: Top five rappers changes all the time? Jay Z, Kanye Uh,

1938
02:07:41,400 --> 02:07:44,160
Speaker 1: have you you thought about this because he's even when

1939
02:07:44,200 --> 02:07:47,800
Speaker 1: people it's like we're not in the park anymore. He

1940
02:07:47,840 --> 02:07:49,320
Speaker 1: made a movie about this. Let me, let me, let

1941
02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:53,440
Speaker 1: me say something to everybody's top five, We're not in

1942
02:07:53,520 --> 02:07:59,040
Speaker 1: the park. This isn't fucking Mr Magic's not add anymore.

1943
02:07:59,400 --> 02:08:02,080
Speaker 1: You're not listen and see this shift on cassette. Your

1944
02:08:02,120 --> 02:08:09,880
Speaker 1: top five is top five record makers. You're talking songs here, right, Okay,

1945
02:08:10,040 --> 02:08:12,960
Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about. We're not. I mean, you

1946
02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:15,560
Speaker 1: want to say top five words, I can read off

1947
02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:20,800
Speaker 1: a piece of papers separate. But when I when I say, yo,

1948
02:08:21,640 --> 02:08:26,640
Speaker 1: rappers that make records and and we're judging them like

1949
02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:32,040
Speaker 1: running back, So you're judging four years. Okay, you're judging

1950
02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:35,120
Speaker 1: four years if you don't have four albums, I don't

1951
02:08:35,160 --> 02:08:38,680
Speaker 1: really I can't put you in my top five, you know.

1952
02:08:38,800 --> 02:08:40,320
Speaker 1: And by the way, just changes all the time. But

1953
02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:43,000
Speaker 1: now I did the record after I did the movie.

1954
02:08:43,040 --> 02:08:44,800
Speaker 1: It's like, man, people ask me this all the time.

1955
02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:49,440
Speaker 1: Who's main albums that I like? If? It's almost like

1956
02:08:49,480 --> 02:08:51,240
Speaker 1: who would you like to see make a record with

1957
02:08:51,400 --> 02:08:59,040
Speaker 1: Dr Dre right? Now you know what I mean, like

1958
02:08:59,520 --> 02:09:03,360
Speaker 1: like for to produce, like who would you rather? I

1959
02:09:03,560 --> 02:09:06,320
Speaker 1: gotta go? I like jay Z knows how to make

1960
02:09:06,360 --> 02:09:11,680
Speaker 1: a motherfucking song. Kanye West is a bad, motherfucker interesting

1961
02:09:11,800 --> 02:09:15,600
Speaker 1: as fuck, only rapper in the history of the game

1962
02:09:16,040 --> 02:09:19,960
Speaker 1: with the mystique. Rappers are like comedians. They are who

1963
02:09:20,080 --> 02:09:25,360
Speaker 1: they are. It's like there's nothing mysterious about him. Kanye

1964
02:09:25,560 --> 02:09:28,600
Speaker 1: is the only one. Okay, you don't think about any

1965
02:09:28,680 --> 02:09:32,800
Speaker 1: other rapper like that. You just don't, don't. You don't

1966
02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:35,960
Speaker 1: give a funk about you know, their relationships and all

1967
02:09:36,040 --> 02:09:38,520
Speaker 1: this ship it was amber Rose is just you don't

1968
02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:41,800
Speaker 1: think about anybody like that except one guy. Speaking of which,

1969
02:09:41,960 --> 02:09:46,680
Speaker 1: did you freestyle that whole ship on the name blame Game?

1970
02:09:46,840 --> 02:09:49,640
Speaker 1: I freestyled it? But how does that work? He just

1971
02:09:49,640 --> 02:09:53,120
Speaker 1: says he made me do. I was in a booth,

1972
02:09:53,440 --> 02:09:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, a couple hours, three hours. Maybe he

1973
02:09:57,760 --> 02:10:00,560
Speaker 1: was producing me for real of him. First, I was

1974
02:10:00,640 --> 02:10:03,200
Speaker 1: hanging around a lot. Again, I'm good at hanging around,

1975
02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:05,920
Speaker 1: so I was your because I would never be allowed

1976
02:10:05,960 --> 02:10:08,800
Speaker 1: to hang around, So I got to hang around. Got

1977
02:10:08,880 --> 02:10:12,120
Speaker 1: to hang around Electric Ladyland a couple of times while

1978
02:10:12,160 --> 02:10:14,400
Speaker 1: he was doing the record. So I think I was

1979
02:10:14,440 --> 02:10:18,520
Speaker 1: around for Monster and a couple other songs, right, And

1980
02:10:19,680 --> 02:10:21,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, he just you know, text me one day,

1981
02:10:21,720 --> 02:10:26,680
Speaker 1: come in. We did it at that studio right next

1982
02:10:26,720 --> 02:10:33,400
Speaker 1: to be Smith's, the one studio. Anyway, he had me

1983
02:10:33,480 --> 02:10:35,280
Speaker 1: in the booth I'm gonna say about three hours and

1984
02:10:35,320 --> 02:10:40,120
Speaker 1: he kept shouting instructions to me, how about this, how

1985
02:10:40,120 --> 02:10:43,840
Speaker 1: about that? And then he took all the ship and

1986
02:10:44,120 --> 02:10:46,800
Speaker 1: edited it and then I get a text. We got

1987
02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:49,760
Speaker 1: a classic and that was and he played it for me,

1988
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:53,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, because I didn't

1989
02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:57,160
Speaker 1: hear when I did it. It wasn't to music. It

1990
02:10:57,320 --> 02:11:00,840
Speaker 1: was I believe it was just to or I didn't

1991
02:11:00,840 --> 02:11:03,400
Speaker 1: hear any of the words. So maybe there was a

1992
02:11:03,440 --> 02:11:06,520
Speaker 1: little music, but there were no all that John legend

1993
02:11:06,720 --> 02:11:09,840
Speaker 1: and all that stuff wasn't on it together. And he

1994
02:11:09,880 --> 02:11:11,360
Speaker 1: put it together. So and then he played and I

1995
02:11:11,480 --> 02:11:14,680
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, this is amazing. And I

1996
02:11:14,720 --> 02:11:20,760
Speaker 1: don't know if I remember sitting with him and my

1997
02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:23,240
Speaker 1: own you know, me and my bullshit A and R.

1998
02:11:23,720 --> 02:11:25,720
Speaker 1: And I told him the album has to end on

1999
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:29,160
Speaker 1: Who's survive in America? Who's the vive in America? Is like,

2000
02:11:29,480 --> 02:11:34,040
Speaker 1: that's the end of the fucking record. Really. He put

2001
02:11:34,120 --> 02:11:36,000
Speaker 1: some bonus after that, but he ended it right there.

2002
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:37,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not gonna say I get all

2003
02:11:37,800 --> 02:11:40,400
Speaker 1: the credit for that, but I definitely told him that

2004
02:11:40,520 --> 02:11:45,120
Speaker 1: it's like nigga, this is it? Who will Who will

2005
02:11:45,200 --> 02:11:48,000
Speaker 1: survive in America? Is the last thing I need to hear.

2006
02:11:48,920 --> 02:11:52,360
Speaker 1: This is the mic drop. Uh You ever hear the

2007
02:11:52,440 --> 02:11:58,800
Speaker 1: album the Ghetto Boys Resurrection album with the single game

2008
02:11:58,880 --> 02:12:02,040
Speaker 1: to put Me Down? One might have been Ghetto Boys

2009
02:12:02,080 --> 02:12:04,840
Speaker 1: and Girls, one of the great rap albums ever made.

2010
02:12:05,240 --> 02:12:08,720
Speaker 1: In the last line of Resurrection is Willie Dee going,

2011
02:12:09,320 --> 02:12:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm a type of nigga, throw a party, win the flag, burn,

2012
02:12:12,760 --> 02:12:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm at the point in overturn. That's the end of

2013
02:12:15,120 --> 02:12:23,240
Speaker 1: the fucking record. Man, Yo, you love filler hip hop

2014
02:12:23,360 --> 02:12:27,920
Speaker 1: like you go beyond. Just because this ship ain't a

2015
02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:30,760
Speaker 1: hit doesn't mean it wasn't great. So sometimes there's some

2016
02:12:30,840 --> 02:12:33,360
Speaker 1: ship in it. So I remember I told Kande that,

2017
02:12:34,280 --> 02:12:36,680
Speaker 1: and and I got from a good source that he

2018
02:12:36,800 --> 02:12:39,280
Speaker 1: listened to it after I left, listen to it in

2019
02:12:39,320 --> 02:12:55,120
Speaker 1: front of me him and Jay. Have you ever seen

2020
02:12:55,200 --> 02:12:57,200
Speaker 1: amber Rose after this, kid? I have seen that. I

2021
02:12:57,320 --> 02:13:00,720
Speaker 1: met her at some store on out of the avenue

2022
02:13:00,720 --> 02:13:03,040
Speaker 1: and I took a picture. She's you know, you guys

2023
02:13:03,120 --> 02:13:06,040
Speaker 1: just never talked about that. I love her. Oh my god,

2024
02:13:06,760 --> 02:13:08,200
Speaker 1: you ever see like this? You ever see like those

2025
02:13:08,280 --> 02:13:12,000
Speaker 1: movies where like a guy like he's got magical powers,

2026
02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:15,680
Speaker 1: but whenever he uses them, like if I use it

2027
02:13:15,800 --> 02:13:18,720
Speaker 1: right now, it's gonna kill me and it saves the world.

2028
02:13:19,480 --> 02:13:21,360
Speaker 1: Like that's what it would take for me to give

2029
02:13:21,440 --> 02:13:25,280
Speaker 1: Amber Rose a proper fucking like. It would like I

2030
02:13:25,360 --> 02:13:32,720
Speaker 1: would be from stranger things. You know, everything would happen,

2031
02:13:33,480 --> 02:13:35,760
Speaker 1: I would get I would make a come, but yeah,

2032
02:13:35,800 --> 02:13:42,120
Speaker 1: I would be fucked up for a long time. I

2033
02:13:42,240 --> 02:13:45,080
Speaker 1: make a come, but I'd be fucked up for a while.

2034
02:13:46,400 --> 02:13:57,960
Speaker 1: I'll be no good for anybody's ad motherfucker girl who tough? Five? Okay?

2035
02:13:59,080 --> 02:14:04,680
Speaker 1: Jay z Nye. The popular guys, uh Snoop Dogg More

2036
02:14:04,760 --> 02:14:08,919
Speaker 1: popular guys. You show me, You showed me a motherfucker

2037
02:14:08,960 --> 02:14:14,080
Speaker 1: that got ten records. You you show me you have

2038
02:14:14,200 --> 02:14:16,560
Speaker 1: a show right now, you do your rock the bells

2039
02:14:16,680 --> 02:14:18,840
Speaker 1: or whatever the fuck, And you show me who's gonna

2040
02:14:18,920 --> 02:14:24,640
Speaker 1: follow Snoop Doggie dog? Who who Snoop is like? No

2041
02:14:24,760 --> 02:14:27,000
Speaker 1: Snoop is like law and order, like everyone knows that

2042
02:14:29,240 --> 02:14:34,760
Speaker 1: everybody And the motherfucker's ridiculous live when he comes out

2043
02:14:35,080 --> 02:14:37,760
Speaker 1: when he got the real bass player playing murder was

2044
02:14:37,800 --> 02:14:40,440
Speaker 1: the case. And this nigger got his braids out and

2045
02:14:40,560 --> 02:14:44,040
Speaker 1: his hands blowing in the motherfucking win and their motherfucker's

2046
02:14:44,840 --> 02:14:47,880
Speaker 1: as I looked to the sky and you're like, oh ship,

2047
02:14:48,600 --> 02:14:51,320
Speaker 1: and you're like, this motherfucker is really six feet tall.

2048
02:14:51,720 --> 02:14:54,520
Speaker 1: He's really a fucking rock star. You can't funk with

2049
02:14:54,640 --> 02:15:03,400
Speaker 1: that nigger. You're that you can't fucking anything or anything.

2050
02:15:04,480 --> 02:15:07,600
Speaker 1: He's one of the greatest of all time. Um two

2051
02:15:07,640 --> 02:15:12,200
Speaker 1: and three, two and three, four and five, I mean,

2052
02:15:12,240 --> 02:15:14,920
Speaker 1: I got you know I can be he named three

2053
02:15:16,480 --> 02:15:21,400
Speaker 1: five just on that ship, just like yo, you can't

2054
02:15:21,440 --> 02:15:26,040
Speaker 1: funk with these motherfucker's. Man, You know, this tribe ship

2055
02:15:26,240 --> 02:15:29,560
Speaker 1: is for real, man, this ship, you know, que Tip

2056
02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:32,600
Speaker 1: is on some other ship. Now, don't get me wrong,

2057
02:15:32,720 --> 02:15:36,960
Speaker 1: Fife God rested, you know whatever. It's some other ship too.

2058
02:15:37,240 --> 02:15:39,000
Speaker 1: They were they were not. He wasn't like a one

2059
02:15:39,120 --> 02:15:43,800
Speaker 1: man band, que Tip. But goddamn it, those records again.

2060
02:15:44,320 --> 02:15:47,560
Speaker 1: You can go ten in a row and be like,

2061
02:15:47,880 --> 02:15:54,520
Speaker 1: everybody's happy, everybody's happy, could the hood's happy, Your mom's

2062
02:15:54,640 --> 02:15:57,280
Speaker 1: is happy. You know what I mean? You know, I

2063
02:15:57,360 --> 02:15:59,960
Speaker 1: mean the Trap crew is happy. In the Steve Harvey

2064
02:16:00,040 --> 02:16:05,200
Speaker 1: crew is happy at that is not too many mcs

2065
02:16:05,240 --> 02:16:13,280
Speaker 1: that could do that, right, And you know, and you know, Okay,

2066
02:16:13,320 --> 02:16:14,840
Speaker 1: she's only got one album, so I'm not going to

2067
02:16:14,920 --> 02:16:19,280
Speaker 1: say her, but who was her? No, No, Lauren Hills.

2068
02:16:20,440 --> 02:16:23,720
Speaker 1: Lauren Hills a better rapper then. I mean, she's a

2069
02:16:23,800 --> 02:16:28,480
Speaker 1: better rapper than Kanye or a lot of people. But

2070
02:16:28,720 --> 02:16:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta you know, you gotta have a

2071
02:16:31,280 --> 02:16:33,119
Speaker 1: body of work. You gotta have a body of work.

2072
02:16:33,600 --> 02:16:37,440
Speaker 1: You know. All this other ship, Um, that ghost Face

2073
02:16:37,760 --> 02:16:43,320
Speaker 1: is a motherfucker. He's my favorite routanger. I mean, you know,

2074
02:16:43,560 --> 02:16:45,160
Speaker 1: I was like O. D B. And I was like

2075
02:16:45,400 --> 02:16:48,480
Speaker 1: meth and whatever like everybody else. But nigga, you gotta work.

2076
02:16:50,800 --> 02:16:54,800
Speaker 1: You gotta work, hey man, Tony Starks puts out a

2077
02:16:54,879 --> 02:17:00,440
Speaker 1: record every you fucking six you know whatever six days

2078
02:17:00,560 --> 02:17:04,800
Speaker 1: does a Tony Starts record, And that ship's fucking great.

2079
02:17:05,720 --> 02:17:08,560
Speaker 1: Speaking of Top five, because it just hit me now

2080
02:17:09,080 --> 02:17:15,440
Speaker 1: and the irony couple mentioned ice Cube is the is

2081
02:17:15,480 --> 02:17:19,960
Speaker 1: the irony lost on you? Speaking of Top five? That

2082
02:17:21,320 --> 02:17:27,040
Speaker 1: uh the Media movie and Birth of a Nation were

2083
02:17:27,160 --> 02:17:32,520
Speaker 1: released in the same October week as what You predicted

2084
02:17:32,600 --> 02:17:37,440
Speaker 1: in the movie and have the same outcome. Um has

2085
02:17:37,520 --> 02:17:39,680
Speaker 1: that irony been lost. Here's the thing. When you talk

2086
02:17:39,760 --> 02:17:42,280
Speaker 1: about like schizophrenic people talk about ship like that, you know,

2087
02:17:42,320 --> 02:17:46,560
Speaker 1: I mean like happy is the irony lost on you?

2088
02:17:46,800 --> 02:17:49,720
Speaker 1: That it's not lost on me. You predicted that ship,

2089
02:17:50,160 --> 02:17:52,160
Speaker 1: it's not lost on me. It's not lost on me.

2090
02:17:52,280 --> 02:17:55,199
Speaker 1: That I essentially came up with the idea for Tyler

2091
02:17:55,280 --> 02:18:02,120
Speaker 1: Perry's biggest movie in a decade. Uh, Like down to

2092
02:18:02,240 --> 02:18:07,240
Speaker 1: the cover art Jesus really yeah, say what the sink

2093
02:18:07,280 --> 02:18:10,160
Speaker 1: a cover? And like the Birth of the Nation. It's

2094
02:18:10,240 --> 02:18:13,040
Speaker 1: like that saying with him holding the well that Yeah,

2095
02:18:14,200 --> 02:18:17,360
Speaker 1: that's even crazier. Yeah, that's all the same stuff. I

2096
02:18:17,440 --> 02:18:19,800
Speaker 1: don't know, man, it's weird. My agents were like, we

2097
02:18:19,879 --> 02:18:22,520
Speaker 1: gotta sue Tyler. I was like, I'm not suing Tyler. Pair.

2098
02:18:22,600 --> 02:18:26,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to that. I don't want does he

2099
02:18:26,680 --> 02:18:31,320
Speaker 1: even know? I mean he says, he said, Okay, what

2100
02:18:31,400 --> 02:18:40,800
Speaker 1: else you got? He called me up, I'm almost out

2101
02:18:40,840 --> 02:18:44,000
Speaker 1: of wait before you go tell me a prince story.

2102
02:18:45,000 --> 02:18:47,760
Speaker 1: I don't have a great prince story, honestly. I mean,

2103
02:18:48,840 --> 02:18:51,680
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that he liked me. I

2104
02:18:51,840 --> 02:18:56,080
Speaker 1: loved him. I always pushed back, honestly because I always

2105
02:18:56,120 --> 02:18:59,600
Speaker 1: figured it can only get bad. I always figured, like

2106
02:18:59,760 --> 02:19:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm I don't want to funk up my access. I

2107
02:19:02,600 --> 02:19:05,280
Speaker 1: just like those moments hanging around him. The longer you

2108
02:19:05,400 --> 02:19:07,520
Speaker 1: hung around on, the more he became like a normal person.

2109
02:19:08,600 --> 02:19:10,280
Speaker 1: So I used to love it when you know, when

2110
02:19:10,320 --> 02:19:15,440
Speaker 1: you'd have like a spaghetti stain, I didn't know it,

2111
02:19:18,480 --> 02:19:23,039
Speaker 1: purple spaghett It's like he's good. Look at that sucking

2112
02:19:23,200 --> 02:19:29,600
Speaker 1: stain on his sucking lime green space suit. I remember

2113
02:19:29,840 --> 02:19:31,800
Speaker 1: so funny. I remember him calling me up one night

2114
02:19:32,320 --> 02:19:34,959
Speaker 1: and uh, so as I've read all the ship that's

2115
02:19:34,959 --> 02:19:38,520
Speaker 1: coming out right now and right before was coming two thousands,

2116
02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:42,120
Speaker 1: and him Prince telling me to did I need to

2117
02:19:42,240 --> 02:19:46,360
Speaker 1: change all my money in the goal because thanks and all,

2118
02:19:46,400 --> 02:19:49,800
Speaker 1: this ship wasn't gonna be working. You read he had

2119
02:19:52,240 --> 02:19:59,360
Speaker 1: so yeah, and like five million in cash. And I

2120
02:19:59,360 --> 02:20:01,320
Speaker 1: remember one he wanted me to go on tour with him,

2121
02:20:01,560 --> 02:20:05,280
Speaker 1: and I turned it down because I turned him down

2122
02:20:05,400 --> 02:20:08,920
Speaker 1: because he was the promoter and I just didn't want

2123
02:20:09,160 --> 02:20:12,840
Speaker 1: Prince coming up to me one night saying, look yeah,

2124
02:20:15,560 --> 02:20:21,000
Speaker 1: like uh with a Chris Rock print show. I don't know.

2125
02:20:21,280 --> 02:20:23,480
Speaker 1: I just didn't. I don't want to put this l

2126
02:20:23,560 --> 02:20:25,480
Speaker 1: in that position, and we trust him as a promoter

2127
02:20:26,200 --> 02:20:30,000
Speaker 1: this this would have been yeah, yeah, so yeah, you wouldn't.

2128
02:20:32,200 --> 02:20:37,160
Speaker 1: It was like emancipatient, He's doing everything himself. I was like, yeah,

2129
02:20:37,200 --> 02:20:39,000
Speaker 1: he was playing for his ass at that point. That

2130
02:20:39,080 --> 02:20:40,440
Speaker 1: sit down in You and Prince, I think it was

2131
02:20:40,520 --> 02:20:43,199
Speaker 1: v H one still one of the best Prince interviews.

2132
02:20:43,520 --> 02:20:45,959
Speaker 1: Like ever, Yeah, when you got him to say about

2133
02:20:45,959 --> 02:20:47,600
Speaker 1: the whole bad thing. I think that was the first

2134
02:20:47,600 --> 02:20:50,720
Speaker 1: time he never publicly commented on Yeah yo, but is

2135
02:20:50,760 --> 02:20:56,640
Speaker 1: mine imagine me saying, ah, yeah, man, man whatever, I

2136
02:20:56,720 --> 02:21:02,359
Speaker 1: don't do a good Prince but uh, alright, well, Michael

2137
02:21:02,680 --> 02:21:05,959
Speaker 1: jack I'm gonna have Have you ever met Michael Jackson? Um,

2138
02:21:06,520 --> 02:21:11,080
Speaker 1: I was around him. I didn't properly meet him meet him. No, No,

2139
02:21:11,360 --> 02:21:13,480
Speaker 1: I do have a one story of meeting him. Here's

2140
02:21:13,560 --> 02:21:15,959
Speaker 1: like at first, I was around him for the What's

2141
02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:27,040
Speaker 1: Up with You? Video? Remember this is the moment for

2142
02:21:30,320 --> 02:21:36,560
Speaker 1: we've been waiting for. So I was around. I was

2143
02:21:36,640 --> 02:21:40,040
Speaker 1: around for the What's Up with You? Video? And so

2144
02:21:40,320 --> 02:21:42,480
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to talk talk to him

2145
02:21:42,560 --> 02:21:44,720
Speaker 1: like that. That was a v I P section that

2146
02:21:45,040 --> 02:21:48,160
Speaker 1: I knew not to even walk near. But I got

2147
02:21:48,240 --> 02:21:52,959
Speaker 1: to watch so Eddie brought the crew with him something.

2148
02:21:53,120 --> 02:21:55,640
Speaker 1: But I got a call from Michael Jackson when I

2149
02:21:55,760 --> 02:21:58,640
Speaker 1: first time I hosted the Oscars. You know, Michael Jackson

2150
02:21:58,680 --> 02:22:01,480
Speaker 1: always film ship all the time time in movies and

2151
02:22:01,560 --> 02:22:03,720
Speaker 1: had crew people. Anyway, one of the crew guys gave

2152
02:22:03,760 --> 02:22:06,920
Speaker 1: me a fucking phone and it was Michael Jackson wishing

2153
02:22:06,959 --> 02:22:09,120
Speaker 1: me a good show. That would have messed up my

2154
02:22:09,240 --> 02:22:13,120
Speaker 1: night that he called that night, that day or whatever,

2155
02:22:13,200 --> 02:22:15,920
Speaker 1: like dooring, like dress or whatever. Wait, I just realized

2156
02:22:15,920 --> 02:22:18,119
Speaker 1: there's a whole suit of questions. I still didn't ask,

2157
02:22:18,560 --> 02:22:22,680
Speaker 1: like is that pressure, Like do you want to I

2158
02:22:22,959 --> 02:22:26,280
Speaker 1: was hosting to ask us I want to, I want times,

2159
02:22:26,320 --> 02:22:30,680
Speaker 1: I want this to be better than everyone else's. But hey, Chris,

2160
02:22:30,800 --> 02:22:33,959
Speaker 1: you're the hindsight revisionist. I always tell people it doesn't

2161
02:22:34,480 --> 02:22:36,560
Speaker 1: you can't control if it's a hint, but you can

2162
02:22:36,640 --> 02:22:39,880
Speaker 1: always be good. It's good. No. But the thing is

2163
02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:42,160
Speaker 1: is that you could say now after the fact, that

2164
02:22:42,560 --> 02:22:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, I was cool in Cucumber. But if you're

2165
02:22:45,600 --> 02:22:49,160
Speaker 1: getting called from Michael Jackson, good luck, which essentially the

2166
02:22:49,320 --> 02:22:52,200
Speaker 1: nice guy version of don't sunk up? Now, how do

2167
02:22:52,320 --> 02:22:55,200
Speaker 1: you feeling? By too fast? Honestly, I mean, I think

2168
02:22:55,240 --> 02:22:57,560
Speaker 1: that the BT Awards was more impressure. The fact that

2169
02:22:57,680 --> 02:22:59,920
Speaker 1: you wanted to do that shocked the ship out of me.

2170
02:23:00,160 --> 02:23:03,360
Speaker 1: I did want to do it because it is risky,

2171
02:23:03,680 --> 02:23:07,120
Speaker 1: but you know what happens. It's easier. Oscar b T

2172
02:23:07,280 --> 02:23:11,440
Speaker 1: Wards Oscars are easier than be T Awards. Just put

2173
02:23:11,520 --> 02:23:15,760
Speaker 1: it away and no disresprised. People liked what I did

2174
02:23:15,800 --> 02:23:18,960
Speaker 1: at the Oscars. But if thirty other people had hosted

2175
02:23:19,040 --> 02:23:21,040
Speaker 1: the show, they could have done a good job, you

2176
02:23:21,080 --> 02:23:23,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean? But I love Billy Crystal. Billy

2177
02:23:23,240 --> 02:23:25,840
Speaker 1: Crystal would have came out there last year. He would

2178
02:23:25,840 --> 02:23:29,040
Speaker 1: have annihilated the Oscars. He would have been great and

2179
02:23:29,080 --> 02:23:32,119
Speaker 1: everybody been happy. Because you can't do the b teal

2180
02:23:32,200 --> 02:23:38,240
Speaker 1: Wards if he didn't be amazing, you know what I mean,

2181
02:23:38,400 --> 02:23:42,280
Speaker 1: like like you, I mean like you Grant or without

2182
02:23:42,320 --> 02:23:45,000
Speaker 1: you Grant, but you know you, Jackman could have done it.

2183
02:23:45,000 --> 02:23:49,760
Speaker 1: If you can't do the fucking b teal Wards. More

2184
02:23:49,840 --> 02:23:55,480
Speaker 1: nerve reckon this lastscar like they do amigo joke? Was

2185
02:23:55,520 --> 02:23:57,960
Speaker 1: it more nerve reckon this time? Because I mean it

2186
02:23:58,040 --> 02:24:00,080
Speaker 1: wasn't your first, but it was like everybody was on

2187
02:24:00,280 --> 02:24:02,600
Speaker 1: you this Oscar so white year. It was you know what,

2188
02:24:02,720 --> 02:24:05,240
Speaker 1: this was like one of those happy accidents. Man, I

2189
02:24:05,360 --> 02:24:07,280
Speaker 1: agreed to host a show. None of this stuff. It

2190
02:24:07,320 --> 02:24:12,080
Speaker 1: even broke out yet, I was just like initially wasn't no,

2191
02:24:12,280 --> 02:24:16,480
Speaker 1: that was two years ago. I was, you know, I

2192
02:24:17,440 --> 02:24:19,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just had nothing going on. I was.

2193
02:24:21,000 --> 02:24:23,880
Speaker 1: I spent a year, you know, trying not to try

2194
02:24:23,959 --> 02:24:25,600
Speaker 1: not to talk about my personal life. But I was

2195
02:24:25,680 --> 02:24:28,240
Speaker 1: in divorce court so much like I was just so

2196
02:24:28,959 --> 02:24:31,640
Speaker 1: and a fog, so nothing like I didn't have a

2197
02:24:31,720 --> 02:24:34,320
Speaker 1: script or anything. It was like, Okay, let me host this.

2198
02:24:35,879 --> 02:24:39,760
Speaker 1: Let me host this, because it's hard to you know,

2199
02:24:40,280 --> 02:24:43,080
Speaker 1: custody and all this ship going on. So it's hard

2200
02:24:43,120 --> 02:24:45,520
Speaker 1: to do a movie. It's hard to do a TV show.

2201
02:24:45,560 --> 02:24:50,000
Speaker 1: It's hard to do anything. Oscars like honestly like a

2202
02:24:50,160 --> 02:24:53,800
Speaker 1: three week commitment. It's more if you want to put

2203
02:24:53,840 --> 02:24:55,920
Speaker 1: in more. But I knew I could do it, so

2204
02:24:56,720 --> 02:25:01,080
Speaker 1: I said yeah, because I was so busy, get whatever.

2205
02:25:02,320 --> 02:25:06,000
Speaker 1: Uh that if I didn't do something, I was gonna risk.

2206
02:25:06,280 --> 02:25:09,440
Speaker 1: It's very easy to be to not if you're not

2207
02:25:09,560 --> 02:25:11,960
Speaker 1: like a movie star or have a TV show. It's

2208
02:25:12,160 --> 02:25:15,200
Speaker 1: really easy to not be seen for a couple of years,

2209
02:25:17,480 --> 02:25:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, what I mean, like, you gotta be very

2210
02:25:19,400 --> 02:25:22,480
Speaker 1: strategic about this ship if you're not on a show.

2211
02:25:23,840 --> 02:25:26,960
Speaker 1: So I figured, if I do the Oscars, it's like, okay,

2212
02:25:28,440 --> 02:25:32,480
Speaker 1: that's that's me for night, that's me for two thousand sixteen.

2213
02:25:33,280 --> 02:25:36,000
Speaker 1: This is a different Oscars. This is so that was

2214
02:25:36,080 --> 02:25:38,280
Speaker 1: the decision to do it, and nothing to do with

2215
02:25:38,360 --> 02:25:42,039
Speaker 1: anything else. So just like okay, and then the nominations

2216
02:25:42,080 --> 02:25:45,600
Speaker 1: come out and there's no blacks, and now it's like,

2217
02:25:46,640 --> 02:25:51,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's the most important thing. I got essence

2218
02:25:51,680 --> 02:25:53,680
Speaker 1: cover I never got before, you know what I mean,

2219
02:25:54,640 --> 02:25:56,840
Speaker 1: twenty years and show, you know what I mean. Like

2220
02:25:56,959 --> 02:26:04,680
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, suddenly I was another cat. So um, yeah,

2221
02:26:04,720 --> 02:26:06,160
Speaker 1: it was a lot of pressure. It was a lot

2222
02:26:06,200 --> 02:26:07,959
Speaker 1: of pressure, but it was fun. It was fun, man,

2223
02:26:08,720 --> 02:26:11,280
Speaker 1: it was fun. I had It was the best time

2224
02:26:11,320 --> 02:26:14,960
Speaker 1: I've ever had hosted the show. Are there any other challenges? Like,

2225
02:26:15,120 --> 02:26:17,400
Speaker 1: I know the last tour you went to other countries,

2226
02:26:17,520 --> 02:26:21,360
Speaker 1: which besides Billy Crystal. I know now everybody does it,

2227
02:26:21,440 --> 02:26:25,039
Speaker 1: but yeah, that was the big I left my manager

2228
02:26:26,240 --> 02:26:30,840
Speaker 1: over that. Over you didn't want to go I wanted

2229
02:26:30,879 --> 02:26:34,640
Speaker 1: to play other I was just like, okay, you know

2230
02:26:34,720 --> 02:26:37,720
Speaker 1: everybody has this saying black acts don't work here, there

2231
02:26:37,840 --> 02:26:41,560
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I was like, I can't keep playing Philly.

2232
02:26:41,840 --> 02:26:43,840
Speaker 1: This is like I want to be the best in

2233
02:26:43,920 --> 02:26:48,400
Speaker 1: the world. That means playing the world. You know, I

2234
02:26:48,520 --> 02:26:52,480
Speaker 1: can figure it out, so I thought. And with the

2235
02:26:52,600 --> 02:26:56,120
Speaker 1: arslot of the internet, like everything, no one had done it,

2236
02:26:56,200 --> 02:26:57,879
Speaker 1: no one had really done it. It was like an

2237
02:26:57,920 --> 02:27:01,440
Speaker 1: occasional show here or there, but no one had really toured,

2238
02:27:01,520 --> 02:27:04,840
Speaker 1: no comedian had really toured, toured outside of the country.

2239
02:27:05,959 --> 02:27:08,840
Speaker 1: And it worked out, you know, thank god for YouTube,

2240
02:27:08,879 --> 02:27:13,360
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, I went my initial first time

2241
02:27:13,400 --> 02:27:16,120
Speaker 1: in London. I thought I'd play like six hundred seats,

2242
02:27:17,320 --> 02:27:22,320
Speaker 1: played ninety, you know, you know, over weeks and weeks

2243
02:27:22,360 --> 02:27:25,000
Speaker 1: of doing shows, and you know, you know, if fu

2244
02:27:25,080 --> 02:27:31,920
Speaker 1: can do Obama, fucking you know, Victory Lap pretty much

2245
02:27:31,959 --> 02:27:35,200
Speaker 1: broke the record in most countries. A lot of it

2246
02:27:35,520 --> 02:27:37,400
Speaker 1: was a lot and a lot of it was word

2247
02:27:37,480 --> 02:27:39,800
Speaker 1: of mouth. A lot of it was like one show

2248
02:27:40,640 --> 02:27:43,160
Speaker 1: sold out or two and then people liking the show

2249
02:27:43,360 --> 02:27:46,760
Speaker 1: so much that it just kept rolling into other things.

2250
02:27:46,879 --> 02:27:49,200
Speaker 1: How many shows were in London, I don't know how

2251
02:27:49,240 --> 02:27:53,320
Speaker 1: many shows Chris Rock shows. It was like we'll do

2252
02:27:53,480 --> 02:27:56,920
Speaker 1: two and there's five more, then there's five more, and

2253
02:27:56,959 --> 02:28:02,000
Speaker 1: then yes, okay, let's oh fuck, there's too many for

2254
02:28:02,120 --> 02:28:03,520
Speaker 1: the hammer style. Let's see if we can do that.

2255
02:28:03,640 --> 02:28:05,680
Speaker 1: Let's do the O two. Oh, the old two sold

2256
02:28:05,720 --> 02:28:07,800
Speaker 1: out in a day. Let's do another like it was,

2257
02:28:08,000 --> 02:28:11,080
Speaker 1: like it was, And do you prepare it to her

2258
02:28:11,160 --> 02:28:14,879
Speaker 1: like a rock star? Like do you do it every

2259
02:28:14,920 --> 02:28:16,760
Speaker 1: other night? Because I know, like you used up a

2260
02:28:16,800 --> 02:28:20,400
Speaker 1: register of your voice, Like what happens if you have

2261
02:28:20,440 --> 02:28:23,120
Speaker 1: a cold or your horse it fucked, your fucked. I

2262
02:28:23,120 --> 02:28:24,800
Speaker 1: mean you gotta when you get off stage, you drink

2263
02:28:24,840 --> 02:28:27,359
Speaker 1: your tea, You try to talk as little as possible.

2264
02:28:27,959 --> 02:28:32,840
Speaker 1: You you try to watch what you do even on stage. Um,

2265
02:28:33,560 --> 02:28:36,680
Speaker 1: I mean I got, I got pipes like a metal singer. Yeah.

2266
02:28:36,720 --> 02:28:39,120
Speaker 1: I was about to say, you are, like, yeah, I

2267
02:28:39,360 --> 02:28:41,960
Speaker 1: got when I when I did the play years ago.

2268
02:28:42,640 --> 02:28:47,360
Speaker 1: The motherfucker, the hack, uh, the whole experience. I was

2269
02:28:47,440 --> 02:28:49,800
Speaker 1: the low man on the totem pole, the whole experience.

2270
02:28:49,840 --> 02:28:53,760
Speaker 1: I was the rookie right through rehearsals and blocking and everything.

2271
02:28:53,920 --> 02:28:59,360
Speaker 1: Right the moment we got to the stage, I was

2272
02:28:59,440 --> 02:29:04,440
Speaker 1: you couldn't with me because you projected yeah, every yeah,

2273
02:29:04,480 --> 02:29:05,960
Speaker 1: every I was the only one that didn't have to

2274
02:29:06,240 --> 02:29:08,560
Speaker 1: have a doctor and get vitam and B twelve shots

2275
02:29:08,640 --> 02:29:13,080
Speaker 1: and whatever for my voice because I played fifty thousand people.

2276
02:29:13,360 --> 02:29:18,760
Speaker 1: Playing a thousand wasn't anything you know when you were going,

2277
02:29:19,000 --> 02:29:21,120
Speaker 1: uh and traveling to other countries, was there anything in

2278
02:29:21,160 --> 02:29:23,040
Speaker 1: your act that you had to kind of change or

2279
02:29:23,120 --> 02:29:26,600
Speaker 1: tailor to fit that country? Pop culture? Do you have

2280
02:29:26,680 --> 02:29:29,080
Speaker 1: someone look changes from town to town? I mean you

2281
02:29:29,760 --> 02:29:33,680
Speaker 1: you do a thing like okay, what's what's your Walmart?

2282
02:29:34,800 --> 02:29:39,279
Speaker 1: What's your flat? With references? So who's the prime minister,

2283
02:29:39,400 --> 02:29:42,640
Speaker 1: who's the president, who's the Okay? This is there a

2284
02:29:42,720 --> 02:29:44,760
Speaker 1: researcher who does that for you? Let you know I

2285
02:29:44,879 --> 02:29:48,000
Speaker 1: do it or you know Alan Leads would do it. Uh,

2286
02:29:48,680 --> 02:29:52,160
Speaker 1: you know this a Rod joke is now Ronaldo joke.

2287
02:29:52,440 --> 02:29:55,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like you do those things,

2288
02:29:56,640 --> 02:30:00,560
Speaker 1: but um, but and you have to just change that stuff.

2289
02:30:02,360 --> 02:30:05,240
Speaker 1: The jokes with that talk about men and women to

2290
02:30:05,360 --> 02:30:11,680
Speaker 1: change shit. Men and women are mad and happy about

2291
02:30:11,680 --> 02:30:16,400
Speaker 1: the exact same things all over the world. There's no

2292
02:30:16,640 --> 02:30:24,400
Speaker 1: the relationship dynamics don't change anywhere. So lastly, all your script,

2293
02:30:25,280 --> 02:30:27,920
Speaker 1: what's what's your what's your pin game? Into like what's

2294
02:30:28,560 --> 02:30:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm working on a script. I can't really describe it

2295
02:30:31,520 --> 02:30:33,280
Speaker 1: right now. Well now I want you to describe it,

2296
02:30:33,400 --> 02:30:36,760
Speaker 1: but you are, you know, I'm working. I'm working. I'm

2297
02:30:36,760 --> 02:30:39,360
Speaker 1: trying to get my man from Atlanta to help me

2298
02:30:39,360 --> 02:30:44,359
Speaker 1: out a little bit. Uh, I'm working on something. Hopefully

2299
02:30:44,440 --> 02:30:48,600
Speaker 1: I can finish it before the tours over and uh,

2300
02:30:49,240 --> 02:30:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, get back into directing. The Top five opened

2301
02:30:52,280 --> 02:30:54,880
Speaker 1: some doors for you. And that Top five I get

2302
02:30:54,920 --> 02:30:58,320
Speaker 1: a lot of offers to direct, um offers producing, Like,

2303
02:30:58,360 --> 02:31:01,080
Speaker 1: you know, people took me serious, Like okay, yeah, I

2304
02:31:01,160 --> 02:31:06,200
Speaker 1: feel like like another situation. You're you're you know, and

2305
02:31:06,680 --> 02:31:09,240
Speaker 1: it's like the third movie I directed, so it's like, okay,

2306
02:31:10,280 --> 02:31:12,800
Speaker 1: some filmmakers takes a while. Hopefully, you know, I got

2307
02:31:12,920 --> 02:31:15,600
Speaker 1: to do it again. Honestly, like David ol Russell's first

2308
02:31:17,000 --> 02:31:20,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't David d Russell out the box or even

2309
02:31:20,760 --> 02:31:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, and I shouldn't compare myself to him, but

2310
02:31:22,520 --> 02:31:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm just saying people artists grow. You know, the second

2311
02:31:26,760 --> 02:31:31,280
Speaker 1: Fuji's album, you know, it's a big jump. It's the

2312
02:31:31,480 --> 02:31:35,240
Speaker 1: second Nirvana album. It's the big jump. So you know,

2313
02:31:35,320 --> 02:31:37,800
Speaker 1: I got a big jump in my third movie, and

2314
02:31:37,879 --> 02:31:42,120
Speaker 1: hopefully it'll you know, I don't take for granted and

2315
02:31:42,520 --> 02:31:45,480
Speaker 1: fucking you know how much of that was autobiographical in

2316
02:31:45,600 --> 02:31:48,080
Speaker 1: terms of the struggle in the character in the movies

2317
02:31:48,280 --> 02:31:51,480
Speaker 1: and struggle was alcohol? Was that personal or was it

2318
02:31:52,680 --> 02:31:56,200
Speaker 1: a struggle? Wasn't alcohol with me? I mean a little bit,

2319
02:31:56,280 --> 02:31:59,680
Speaker 1: but not to the extent The struggle with me was

2320
02:31:59,760 --> 02:32:05,320
Speaker 1: just Pardian. Struggle with me was girls. Honestly, do you

2321
02:32:05,440 --> 02:32:09,520
Speaker 1: know that was like Okay, I could fuck so and so,

2322
02:32:09,840 --> 02:32:12,600
Speaker 1: or I can get on stage. You know, I can

2323
02:32:13,879 --> 02:32:19,960
Speaker 1: juggling fucking six chicks and you know that's six conversations,

2324
02:32:20,680 --> 02:32:23,800
Speaker 1: that's six complaints. That's like, you know, I mean, that's

2325
02:32:23,840 --> 02:32:27,280
Speaker 1: like you know, I mean, that's you know, that's like

2326
02:32:27,360 --> 02:32:34,240
Speaker 1: being a manager of a sucking Arby's and ship my shift.

2327
02:32:34,640 --> 02:32:38,480
Speaker 1: How can I get like it's like literally yeah, just

2328
02:32:38,640 --> 02:32:41,520
Speaker 1: like okay, let me get that part done with. All right? Well,

2329
02:32:41,640 --> 02:32:47,320
Speaker 1: Mr Rock, I know this was painful for you. I

2330
02:32:47,400 --> 02:32:49,760
Speaker 1: gotta figure out a three hour three ever to ask

2331
02:32:49,840 --> 02:33:03,000
Speaker 1: you are you don't? And before we go, I just

2332
02:33:03,080 --> 02:33:04,840
Speaker 1: want to say, man, you are the reason I drive

2333
02:33:04,840 --> 02:33:09,360
Speaker 1: in ultimate from the from the thing you did. I

2334
02:33:09,360 --> 02:33:10,840
Speaker 1: think it's on MTV you talk about how you like

2335
02:33:10,920 --> 02:33:17,320
Speaker 1: to steal that I think. Yeah, like I drove an

2336
02:33:17,400 --> 02:33:19,000
Speaker 1: ultimate and I was like, you know what I'm about.

2337
02:33:19,200 --> 02:33:21,480
Speaker 1: That was the whole Jokey, that's one of those things

2338
02:33:21,560 --> 02:33:22,959
Speaker 1: they said, you want to do it. I said, only

2339
02:33:23,040 --> 02:33:26,000
Speaker 1: if I could make it funny. You did it. And now,

2340
02:33:26,200 --> 02:33:28,640
Speaker 1: like even on the top of you're talking about you

2341
02:33:28,720 --> 02:33:31,480
Speaker 1: being like a private I'm currently living out one of

2342
02:33:31,560 --> 02:33:33,879
Speaker 1: your jokes because I just bought a house and I'm

2343
02:33:33,959 --> 02:33:36,600
Speaker 1: like one of only of the three black families. Like

2344
02:33:36,680 --> 02:33:38,800
Speaker 1: in the whole joint, the guy that used to own

2345
02:33:38,879 --> 02:33:45,360
Speaker 1: the house was the dentist. There you go where it was, Well, sir,

2346
02:33:45,840 --> 02:33:49,640
Speaker 1: I thank you, and I'm certain that you'll make me

2347
02:33:49,760 --> 02:33:53,160
Speaker 1: pay for this somehow. I will. I will. I'm staying

2348
02:33:53,200 --> 02:33:56,320
Speaker 1: in town, so if anything's going on later, let me know.

2349
02:33:56,360 --> 02:33:59,119
Speaker 1: I gotta go by. You're not gonna go by two

2350
02:33:59,240 --> 02:34:02,320
Speaker 1: or close. Nice, You're not gonna do it any mury,

2351
02:34:02,440 --> 02:34:04,400
Speaker 1: just go to mom by the red I found out

2352
02:34:04,480 --> 02:34:07,360
Speaker 1: that he didn't have an outfit, he didn't have an

2353
02:34:07,400 --> 02:34:11,360
Speaker 1: outfit and figure out he didn't have an outfit for

2354
02:34:11,520 --> 02:34:13,200
Speaker 1: delirious and just went to the mom and saw the

2355
02:34:13,320 --> 02:34:16,160
Speaker 1: leather suit inside of him. It's not even a suit.

2356
02:34:16,360 --> 02:34:22,000
Speaker 1: They're like, he already had the pants. Of course it's

2357
02:34:22,080 --> 02:34:24,320
Speaker 1: not even a suit. They don't even match. Oh wait,

2358
02:34:24,440 --> 02:34:26,800
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't have a wardrobe present. I do,

2359
02:34:27,040 --> 02:34:29,959
Speaker 1: but sometimes you just want to walked through. And let's

2360
02:34:29,959 --> 02:34:32,920
Speaker 1: gonna say, dare I introduced him to the crazy Words Steve.

2361
02:34:33,680 --> 02:34:37,440
Speaker 1: Oh never mind, anyway, Thank you very much, Chris Rock.

2362
02:34:38,680 --> 02:34:40,800
Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming on this show. This Question of

2363
02:34:40,920 --> 02:34:53,920
Speaker 1: Supreme will be back with more reflections. Reflections like what

2364
02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:56,520
Speaker 1: did you learn? I learned that if Chris Rock everyone

2365
02:34:56,520 --> 02:34:59,080
Speaker 1: wants to quit comedy, he will be the most amazing

2366
02:34:59,240 --> 02:35:02,560
Speaker 1: a and r like for real, or at least the

2367
02:35:02,640 --> 02:35:07,280
Speaker 1: most opinionated and I mean not nine problem story can't

2368
02:35:07,280 --> 02:35:10,200
Speaker 1: be denied like that. That ship was real? Right he? Yeah? He?

2369
02:35:10,600 --> 02:35:14,199
Speaker 1: I'm telling you he has a tendency too. I thought

2370
02:35:14,280 --> 02:35:19,560
Speaker 1: I liked filler and non relevant rap stuff, but he

2371
02:35:19,840 --> 02:35:23,160
Speaker 1: loves filler and just you know, he goes beyond a

2372
02:35:23,240 --> 02:35:26,960
Speaker 1: person's Oh you know what else? I learned what my

2373
02:35:27,280 --> 02:35:34,080
Speaker 1: raps will destroy you next? Alright, man, I learned that

2374
02:35:34,280 --> 02:35:37,160
Speaker 1: Chris Rock is um And I'm not just saying that,

2375
02:35:37,360 --> 02:35:40,680
Speaker 1: you know he's here, but he is my favorite comedian.

2376
02:35:41,320 --> 02:35:44,520
Speaker 1: Like favorite. I mean he he had been for years,

2377
02:35:44,680 --> 02:35:47,160
Speaker 1: but just uh, sitting here and talking to him and

2378
02:35:47,240 --> 02:35:49,760
Speaker 1: just the way he discusses like his personal life and uh,

2379
02:35:50,320 --> 02:35:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, just discussing the journey of like going through

2380
02:35:52,560 --> 02:35:55,080
Speaker 1: a divorce and how you you know, losing that year

2381
02:35:55,840 --> 02:35:58,800
Speaker 1: and all of that, what that entails. And you know

2382
02:35:58,879 --> 02:36:01,480
Speaker 1: the thing that he said about how if you're not

2383
02:36:01,640 --> 02:36:03,360
Speaker 1: on the TV, if you're not a movie star, if

2384
02:36:03,400 --> 02:36:06,480
Speaker 1: you're not on TV, years can go by without motherfucker

2385
02:36:06,560 --> 02:36:08,720
Speaker 1: seeing you. You know what I'm saying, And like that

2386
02:36:08,840 --> 02:36:12,840
Speaker 1: ship is real. So that man listen, you know what

2387
02:36:12,840 --> 02:36:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean. So for him, he's just real, Like people

2388
02:36:18,120 --> 02:36:20,360
Speaker 1: won't recognize you. That people she came back and nobody

2389
02:36:20,400 --> 02:36:28,000
Speaker 1: kne who I was just shut up. But now he's

2390
02:36:28,040 --> 02:36:30,720
Speaker 1: just he's just all around. It's just a real dude.

2391
02:36:30,879 --> 02:36:32,920
Speaker 1: And um, he's definitely a person. That ship he said

2392
02:36:32,920 --> 02:36:37,880
Speaker 1: about not being with people like what we're saying, like

2393
02:36:38,120 --> 02:36:42,560
Speaker 1: being untalented and sexually transmitted, that ship is fucking true.

2394
02:36:42,680 --> 02:36:46,520
Speaker 1: Like there has been sexual opportunities I have passed down

2395
02:36:46,680 --> 02:36:49,720
Speaker 1: because I didn't think that much of a person's art,

2396
02:36:50,080 --> 02:36:52,120
Speaker 1: not not even wrong crewe, Like I just didn't think

2397
02:36:52,959 --> 02:36:56,320
Speaker 1: the art that that girl made was whatever. So it's

2398
02:36:56,360 --> 02:37:00,600
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, like I don't wanna you know, you know,

2399
02:37:00,760 --> 02:37:03,240
Speaker 1: I don't want you, you know, to make this vagin

2400
02:37:03,320 --> 02:37:06,760
Speaker 1: of decision and I can't support your art, like I

2401
02:37:06,840 --> 02:37:09,080
Speaker 1: feel that would be disingenuous, you know what I mean,

2402
02:37:09,240 --> 02:37:12,280
Speaker 1: Like I can't do that. People think of pim they

2403
02:37:12,320 --> 02:37:16,640
Speaker 1: got no feelings, but the pimp got feeling. I wouldn't

2404
02:37:16,640 --> 02:37:18,959
Speaker 1: do that to her. So but yeah, but that's real man.

2405
02:37:19,000 --> 02:37:21,400
Speaker 1: So he's just a super relatable dude. Man. Still my

2406
02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:24,360
Speaker 1: still my top number one. Okay, you guys told me,

2407
02:37:24,920 --> 02:37:26,640
Speaker 1: someone told me that I don't know how to take

2408
02:37:26,680 --> 02:37:31,400
Speaker 1: a compliment. Uh. I actually felt honored that, you know,

2409
02:37:31,600 --> 02:37:34,400
Speaker 1: when he said I don't hang around untalented people. Has

2410
02:37:34,400 --> 02:37:38,879
Speaker 1: around you wait on each other. I'm telling you, oh, man,

2411
02:37:38,959 --> 02:37:42,320
Speaker 1: he really likes my talent. You know. I appreciate that.

2412
02:37:43,320 --> 02:37:46,200
Speaker 1: Chris is the dude that, like, when you're stagging it

2413
02:37:46,360 --> 02:37:50,120
Speaker 1: in one particular area of your life and then it's

2414
02:37:50,280 --> 02:37:56,200
Speaker 1: it's a sudden um, it's an upsurge, you know. I'll say, like,

2415
02:37:56,280 --> 02:37:58,280
Speaker 1: in the last five years, things have definitely changed for

2416
02:37:58,400 --> 02:38:03,000
Speaker 1: me and dealing with family members and all that stuff.

2417
02:38:03,120 --> 02:38:06,000
Speaker 1: Like you know, you don't know how to deal with

2418
02:38:06,080 --> 02:38:09,000
Speaker 1: it because you just think that you know, you're gonna

2419
02:38:09,080 --> 02:38:12,959
Speaker 1: be a a starving artist or a broke artist or whatever,

2420
02:38:13,080 --> 02:38:16,120
Speaker 1: like a struggling artists or whatever the case is. And

2421
02:38:16,959 --> 02:38:19,920
Speaker 1: so he was really there to let me know, like

2422
02:38:22,320 --> 02:38:24,920
Speaker 1: to get he was the he was the magical negro

2423
02:38:25,800 --> 02:38:27,000
Speaker 1: they see, the one that he was kind of like

2424
02:38:27,040 --> 02:38:31,200
Speaker 1: your rich nigger whisperer knew that you knew your nigger

2425
02:38:31,280 --> 02:38:34,200
Speaker 1: whisper Like, yeah, he seems to do that with a

2426
02:38:34,240 --> 02:38:36,800
Speaker 1: lot of people, though now he does. Like his first

2427
02:38:36,879 --> 02:38:39,520
Speaker 1: thing was he was like, he's like, all right, you're

2428
02:38:39,520 --> 02:38:41,400
Speaker 1: gonna meet me here tomorrow. I was like, why where

2429
02:38:41,400 --> 02:38:43,480
Speaker 1: are we going? He's like, We're going to a not

2430
02:38:43,600 --> 02:38:46,039
Speaker 1: a tea party, like we're going to a cocktail party.

2431
02:38:46,040 --> 02:38:47,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, why would I want to go there?

2432
02:38:48,040 --> 02:38:50,640
Speaker 1: He says, because you never know the day that you're

2433
02:38:50,640 --> 02:38:54,800
Speaker 1: gonna need to borrow sixty dollars so you could develop something.

2434
02:38:55,800 --> 02:38:58,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, huh, Like he just he just know.

2435
02:38:58,800 --> 02:39:00,760
Speaker 1: It was like for real, like now you have to

2436
02:39:00,840 --> 02:39:02,680
Speaker 1: take that and you have to do I went to

2437
02:39:02,760 --> 02:39:04,520
Speaker 1: this thing with him. We shook a bunch of hands,

2438
02:39:04,560 --> 02:39:08,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of old rich people. You now have to

2439
02:39:08,320 --> 02:39:10,440
Speaker 1: be Chris Rock at some point and pass the baton

2440
02:39:10,600 --> 02:39:13,039
Speaker 1: do the same thing mentoring. That's great. Yeah, it's called

2441
02:39:13,120 --> 02:39:19,000
Speaker 1: Ques Love Supreme only on Pandora only. You know how

2442
02:39:19,080 --> 02:39:20,640
Speaker 1: much stuff I've learned on this show that I actually

2443
02:39:20,680 --> 02:39:23,879
Speaker 1: like applied to my everyday life now straight up, straight

2444
02:39:23,959 --> 02:39:29,120
Speaker 1: up anyway, Yeah, he taught me a lot. So I'm

2445
02:39:29,280 --> 02:39:32,920
Speaker 1: very grateful that he did the show. Bill Um. So yeah,

2446
02:39:33,320 --> 02:39:35,520
Speaker 1: the whole him being the secret A and R or

2447
02:39:35,560 --> 02:39:38,959
Speaker 1: whatever behind the um the jay Z ninety nine problems

2448
02:39:39,160 --> 02:39:41,040
Speaker 1: and like we were talking when we were on break, like,

2449
02:39:41,320 --> 02:39:42,960
Speaker 1: can you imagine what it would be like if jay

2450
02:39:43,040 --> 02:39:48,400
Speaker 1: Z picked problems that it would be amazing. I actually

2451
02:39:48,440 --> 02:39:50,840
Speaker 1: kind of want to hear that. So, j if you're

2452
02:39:50,879 --> 02:39:53,520
Speaker 1: listening to get a table, I think it might be

2453
02:39:53,560 --> 02:39:56,720
Speaker 1: time to revisit that. And I learned one more thing,

2454
02:39:56,879 --> 02:40:03,119
Speaker 1: one more thing. My wraps will destroy you, will destroy

2455
02:40:03,200 --> 02:40:06,960
Speaker 1: you where you learn. Um. He kept going back to

2456
02:40:07,920 --> 02:40:12,600
Speaker 1: his ability, um, and you know, his his ability and

2457
02:40:12,959 --> 02:40:16,120
Speaker 1: the value of of blending in being being able to

2458
02:40:16,160 --> 02:40:20,160
Speaker 1: hang with anybody. And uh, I feel I've made a

2459
02:40:20,200 --> 02:40:22,920
Speaker 1: bit of a career of that myself. I'm not laughing.

2460
02:40:23,440 --> 02:40:26,080
Speaker 1: But now I cannot wait for the day we get

2461
02:40:26,120 --> 02:40:29,840
Speaker 1: carrerass one on this shear. I know our intro is

2462
02:40:29,879 --> 02:40:35,480
Speaker 1: going to be nothing but my wraps. I'm sorry Steve

2463
02:40:35,600 --> 02:40:38,920
Speaker 1: far for interrupted go it. Um. Yeah, his his his

2464
02:40:39,040 --> 02:40:41,520
Speaker 1: thing about blending in and um, being able to hang

2465
02:40:41,640 --> 02:40:44,640
Speaker 1: with all sorts of different crowds and people, and the

2466
02:40:44,760 --> 02:40:48,280
Speaker 1: value and that and that it's a skill, and um,

2467
02:40:48,800 --> 02:40:51,680
Speaker 1: I can vouch for it, I think to some extent. Also,

2468
02:40:51,840 --> 02:40:55,680
Speaker 1: I thought it was cool, um, because you and I

2469
02:40:55,760 --> 02:40:59,480
Speaker 1: are always making the comparison between musicians and comedians and

2470
02:41:00,120 --> 02:41:05,840
Speaker 1: saying all the similarities between the two different trades, and um,

2471
02:41:05,959 --> 02:41:11,800
Speaker 1: he mentioned a major difference, Um, that musicians can can

2472
02:41:11,879 --> 02:41:15,040
Speaker 1: work on continue to play their old material, you know,

2473
02:41:15,200 --> 02:41:17,280
Speaker 1: and that's actually what the audience wants to hear most

2474
02:41:17,320 --> 02:41:19,320
Speaker 1: of the time, is the the old songs and the

2475
02:41:19,400 --> 02:41:23,280
Speaker 1: hits and so forth, and and comedians have to come

2476
02:41:23,360 --> 02:41:27,520
Speaker 1: with the with the new stuff in order to So

2477
02:41:27,640 --> 02:41:30,280
Speaker 1: I thought that was cool that you know, this sort

2478
02:41:30,280 --> 02:41:33,360
Speaker 1: of major difference between those two things which we don't

2479
02:41:33,400 --> 02:41:35,840
Speaker 1: think about. We always think about the similarities. And I

2480
02:41:35,920 --> 02:41:39,200
Speaker 1: also got to mention that X in front of nat X,

2481
02:41:39,240 --> 02:41:44,640
Speaker 1: which was really so awesome, remember that time you didn't

2482
02:41:46,440 --> 02:41:52,480
Speaker 1: that's really cool. Alright, alright, Bill bill Um. I used

2483
02:41:52,480 --> 02:41:54,720
Speaker 1: to open a lot for comedians back in the day,

2484
02:41:54,800 --> 02:41:57,000
Speaker 1: and I remember being backstage and they're being like the

2485
02:41:57,080 --> 02:42:00,080
Speaker 1: most introverted, angry folks at Freestyle loves the premu U

2486
02:42:00,120 --> 02:42:01,880
Speaker 1: to open for a lot of comedians because we were

2487
02:42:01,879 --> 02:42:04,959
Speaker 1: a comedy thing in in you know, in Edinburgh at

2488
02:42:05,000 --> 02:42:07,680
Speaker 1: the fringe anyway, there's just really introverted dudes. And you

2489
02:42:07,760 --> 02:42:09,200
Speaker 1: were like and made me not want to hang out

2490
02:42:09,200 --> 02:42:11,280
Speaker 1: with comedians. And so Chris Rock very much changed that

2491
02:42:11,320 --> 02:42:13,360
Speaker 1: because he's just he was not He's not like that

2492
02:42:13,440 --> 02:42:16,520
Speaker 1: at all, and he's he's yeah, I would say so

2493
02:42:16,760 --> 02:42:18,440
Speaker 1: like they were. You know, when your job is to

2494
02:42:18,480 --> 02:42:20,199
Speaker 1: try to make people laugh all the time, I feel

2495
02:42:20,240 --> 02:42:21,800
Speaker 1: like the rest of the time you're just like a

2496
02:42:22,040 --> 02:42:24,600
Speaker 1: sad dick. And then this wasn't like that at all.

2497
02:42:24,760 --> 02:42:27,520
Speaker 1: I like that. And how about that divorce can really,

2498
02:42:27,600 --> 02:42:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, change a person, right, So there's like there's

2499
02:42:30,040 --> 02:42:32,120
Speaker 1: the highs of Chris Rock's life and there's the loads

2500
02:42:32,160 --> 02:42:35,120
Speaker 1: and it's all some ship and yeah, the look of

2501
02:42:35,160 --> 02:42:40,960
Speaker 1: acknowledgement on Fonte's face, I don't like you kind of

2502
02:42:41,000 --> 02:42:46,320
Speaker 1: like can't really do together. I mean pretty much more

2503
02:42:46,400 --> 02:42:49,880
Speaker 1: than all right, what do you do? Building Fonte? What

2504
02:42:49,959 --> 02:42:52,960
Speaker 1: are you two going to feel? Betrade, like four years

2505
02:42:53,000 --> 02:42:56,600
Speaker 1: from now when you're like, all right, I've never getting

2506
02:42:56,600 --> 02:42:58,440
Speaker 1: married again. Are you getting married? I'm never getting married again.

2507
02:42:58,440 --> 02:43:00,120
Speaker 1: I know that. I'll a would say I would say this,

2508
02:43:00,400 --> 02:43:02,800
Speaker 1: will I will say this, You're definitely getting married again.

2509
02:43:03,000 --> 02:43:05,199
Speaker 1: Everyone says that, why do you say that? Okay, okay,

2510
02:43:05,240 --> 02:43:06,920
Speaker 1: this is why they say. This is why they say it. No,

2511
02:43:07,000 --> 02:43:10,560
Speaker 1: that's why they're saying. This is your haircuts made a marriage.

2512
02:43:14,280 --> 02:43:27,359
Speaker 1: People can't haircut for marriage. My raps were made destroy

2513
02:43:27,520 --> 02:43:30,840
Speaker 1: you my nikka Bill Sherman got the number two on

2514
02:43:30,959 --> 02:43:39,520
Speaker 1: the Fantastic Sam Shaw. Alright, your account, go ahead. Okay,

2515
02:43:39,600 --> 02:43:41,120
Speaker 1: this is why I was, I would say, because this

2516
02:43:41,160 --> 02:43:43,160
Speaker 1: is as a person that had said that I would

2517
02:43:43,200 --> 02:43:46,199
Speaker 1: never do it again, and I want to do it again.

2518
02:43:46,520 --> 02:43:48,760
Speaker 1: All right. It's a couple of things, all right. First

2519
02:43:48,800 --> 02:43:52,240
Speaker 1: thing is that you got to realize that there are

2520
02:43:52,600 --> 02:43:54,920
Speaker 1: like a common threads that run through all marriages, but

2521
02:43:55,040 --> 02:43:57,600
Speaker 1: sometimes you can just be with the wrong person, you

2522
02:43:57,720 --> 02:43:59,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And for me, I just know

2523
02:44:00,160 --> 02:44:03,240
Speaker 1: in my marriage that was just the wrong person, you

2524
02:44:03,280 --> 02:44:04,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and so and and not even

2525
02:44:05,040 --> 02:44:07,000
Speaker 1: putting it on her because we cool now. But for me,

2526
02:44:07,240 --> 02:44:10,480
Speaker 1: the person I was when I got married was not

2527
02:44:10,640 --> 02:44:12,720
Speaker 1: ready to be married, Like you know what I'm saying.

2528
02:44:13,120 --> 02:44:15,240
Speaker 1: So it's like if you eat if you've never eaten

2529
02:44:15,280 --> 02:44:17,840
Speaker 1: beef before, and somebody make you a cheeseburger and it's

2530
02:44:17,879 --> 02:44:20,320
Speaker 1: just fucked up, and you taste that, you like, I

2531
02:44:20,440 --> 02:44:23,520
Speaker 1: hate cheeseburger. It's like, no, it ain't that all cheeseburgers

2532
02:44:23,600 --> 02:44:27,240
Speaker 1: sucked up cheeseburger. I was gonna say, But you're s

2533
02:44:28,680 --> 02:44:30,680
Speaker 1: when you were at the altar. When you were at

2534
02:44:30,720 --> 02:44:35,080
Speaker 1: the altar, was there a point when you're like a ship?

2535
02:44:35,560 --> 02:44:39,840
Speaker 1: Maybe not? You caught up in the moment you couldn't

2536
02:44:39,879 --> 02:44:43,880
Speaker 1: wait to frank you beverly amazing. No, it wasn't. I

2537
02:44:44,000 --> 02:44:45,840
Speaker 1: never had a moment where I thought, like ship. It

2538
02:44:45,920 --> 02:44:47,920
Speaker 1: wasn't that. I mean, I think you you know, I

2539
02:44:48,200 --> 02:44:52,400
Speaker 1: was all long before that first Oh when I realized

2540
02:44:52,400 --> 02:44:54,880
Speaker 1: I sucked up? Right, Oh, now I realized I sucked

2541
02:44:54,959 --> 02:44:59,560
Speaker 1: up like within the first the first year, you know

2542
02:44:59,560 --> 02:45:03,520
Speaker 1: what I mean, Maybe like the first someone shows you

2543
02:45:03,560 --> 02:45:06,200
Speaker 1: who they really are. Yeah, that shows you who they

2544
02:45:06,240 --> 02:45:08,480
Speaker 1: really are. And I mean and even beyond that again,

2545
02:45:08,560 --> 02:45:11,680
Speaker 1: I mean like it really just depends on who you are.

2546
02:45:11,720 --> 02:45:14,280
Speaker 1: And I just speak specifically as as as men. You

2547
02:45:14,320 --> 02:45:15,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, just talking to them, man like,

2548
02:45:16,200 --> 02:45:18,400
Speaker 1: it really depends on us. It depends on it's not

2549
02:45:18,480 --> 02:45:19,800
Speaker 1: so much. And it is the part that like women,

2550
02:45:19,840 --> 02:45:21,960
Speaker 1: they don't like to talk about. It's like when a

2551
02:45:22,000 --> 02:45:23,879
Speaker 1: man decides to get married, like we're saying with Chris,

2552
02:45:24,200 --> 02:45:26,040
Speaker 1: it's at the top of your game. It's when we

2553
02:45:26,160 --> 02:45:27,600
Speaker 1: at the top. So it's like, it really ain't got

2554
02:45:27,600 --> 02:45:29,840
Speaker 1: ship to do with her. It's got to do with

2555
02:45:29,959 --> 02:45:32,960
Speaker 1: who you are, you know what I mean. You know,

2556
02:45:33,000 --> 02:45:35,280
Speaker 1: it ain't got nothing to do with you know, with who,

2557
02:45:36,360 --> 02:45:37,480
Speaker 1: and it ain't got nothing to do with who you

2558
02:45:37,840 --> 02:45:41,320
Speaker 1: who she is. She could be like the greatest mothercker ever,

2559
02:45:41,480 --> 02:45:44,800
Speaker 1: like cook, clean, big ass, facted, whatever you like. But

2560
02:45:44,959 --> 02:45:52,960
Speaker 1: if you ain't big, I mean, you know, whatever you like, Yeah,

2561
02:45:53,080 --> 02:45:54,920
Speaker 1: if you have all that, but if you ain't ready

2562
02:45:54,959 --> 02:45:56,520
Speaker 1: for that, and then it don't matter what she got.

2563
02:45:56,840 --> 02:46:00,720
Speaker 1: What I'm saying the first three big you feel me.

2564
02:46:00,840 --> 02:46:03,640
Speaker 1: So we're just saying, so we say intelligence because that's

2565
02:46:03,680 --> 02:46:07,760
Speaker 1: what they want to hear and talent STDs what whatever

2566
02:46:08,600 --> 02:46:13,360
Speaker 1: talent is sexually transmitted sexually transmitted untalentedness. That's fucking scary.

2567
02:46:13,720 --> 02:46:15,240
Speaker 1: But now, so I would say that boss Bill, I

2568
02:46:15,280 --> 02:46:17,840
Speaker 1: mean unpaid Bill. I think you know you you're feeling

2569
02:46:17,879 --> 02:46:21,040
Speaker 1: it that now because you fresh out of it. You

2570
02:46:21,040 --> 02:46:22,920
Speaker 1: want to get mad, and I ain't you still going

2571
02:46:22,959 --> 02:46:26,240
Speaker 1: through your divorce, like you're still going through the aftermath,

2572
02:46:26,320 --> 02:46:29,040
Speaker 1: like you still got like your thousand yards still of divorce.

2573
02:46:29,600 --> 02:46:31,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because that ship is fucking

2574
02:46:31,320 --> 02:46:35,120
Speaker 1: traumatic at this point. And I have the right hair,

2575
02:46:35,240 --> 02:46:39,240
Speaker 1: so I'll be fantastic, you know, fine, Fine, And I

2576
02:46:39,280 --> 02:46:41,360
Speaker 1: would saying I don't know saying this because I was

2577
02:46:41,440 --> 02:46:43,240
Speaker 1: the guy that before I was like fun this, I

2578
02:46:43,320 --> 02:46:45,120
Speaker 1: never do I never do it again. And I kind

2579
02:46:45,160 --> 02:46:47,160
Speaker 1: of had to eat some humble pie once I decided

2580
02:46:47,160 --> 02:46:49,480
Speaker 1: to do it. But it's a process, and you know

2581
02:46:49,640 --> 02:46:51,520
Speaker 1: you you work through it and you may decide to

2582
02:46:51,560 --> 02:46:53,520
Speaker 1: do it, you may not. But if nothing else, I

2583
02:46:53,600 --> 02:46:57,120
Speaker 1: think that your heart will soften once you make it

2584
02:46:57,240 --> 02:46:59,039
Speaker 1: out of this joint. Like you gotta treat you gotta

2585
02:46:59,040 --> 02:47:01,039
Speaker 1: treat the vorce like PT is D Like you really

2586
02:47:01,040 --> 02:47:03,640
Speaker 1: got to treat that ship like you've been through something

2587
02:47:03,760 --> 02:47:10,360
Speaker 1: many so many abbreviations, STDs, ptsd s. It's all yeah,

2588
02:47:10,360 --> 02:47:11,840
Speaker 1: you gotta yeah, you gotta treat it like that. You

2589
02:47:11,879 --> 02:47:14,119
Speaker 1: gotta get yourself at that time to really to really heal.

2590
02:47:14,400 --> 02:47:16,160
Speaker 1: And then if you decided to do it again, you

2591
02:47:16,240 --> 02:47:21,119
Speaker 1: know you can make a bet decision. Divorcedora, that's gonna

2592
02:47:21,120 --> 02:47:23,120
Speaker 1: be the offspring. Yeah, when we get our side shows

2593
02:47:23,959 --> 02:47:29,680
Speaker 1: all day just like remember that ship. Hey, our boss

2594
02:47:29,720 --> 02:47:34,800
Speaker 1: Scott's here. Did you learn anything we embarrass? Did we

2595
02:47:34,920 --> 02:47:37,960
Speaker 1: do we embarrass the higher ups and office upstairs? No?

2596
02:47:38,200 --> 02:47:40,720
Speaker 1: I mean, look, there's a lot of things I think

2597
02:47:40,760 --> 02:47:43,520
Speaker 1: in this interview that we're super interesting. One, uh to

2598
02:47:43,640 --> 02:47:46,600
Speaker 1: what Fonte was saying, super real, like more you always

2599
02:47:46,640 --> 02:47:48,720
Speaker 1: felt like he was at and in his comic and

2600
02:47:49,520 --> 02:47:51,840
Speaker 1: celebrity persona, but just having him here in the room.

2601
02:47:51,920 --> 02:47:56,240
Speaker 1: Definitely a real dude, super talented. Most comedians Seinfeld otherwise,

2602
02:47:56,280 --> 02:47:58,240
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of comedy. They take a year

2603
02:47:58,360 --> 02:48:00,200
Speaker 1: to work out before they go out on the old

2604
02:48:00,560 --> 02:48:02,920
Speaker 1: and they get a solid sixty to ninety minutes before

2605
02:48:02,959 --> 02:48:06,520
Speaker 1: they do that, and he's literally putting it together, winging

2606
02:48:06,800 --> 02:48:12,160
Speaker 1: yea as its because no he's my Chris is my

2607
02:48:12,480 --> 02:48:16,880
Speaker 1: preparation guru for all the for all the folklore I

2608
02:48:16,959 --> 02:48:20,400
Speaker 1: talk about, like the ten thousand hour practice thing, Like

2609
02:48:20,920 --> 02:48:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm with him when he's at this obscure club, like

2610
02:48:23,520 --> 02:48:27,680
Speaker 1: working things out with his grandfather glasses and all these notebooks.

2611
02:48:28,080 --> 02:48:31,800
Speaker 1: Like when he's prepping stuff, he's not like this sure

2612
02:48:32,440 --> 02:48:35,840
Speaker 1: you know coxs your walk on on the stage and thing. No,

2613
02:48:36,080 --> 02:48:38,760
Speaker 1: he's like walking on the stage with pointext to glasses,

2614
02:48:38,800 --> 02:48:42,080
Speaker 1: with a whole bunch of composition notebooks. Okay, what's try

2615
02:48:42,120 --> 02:48:46,280
Speaker 1: to talk about? Okay, try some food jokes. No, I'm

2616
02:48:46,320 --> 02:48:50,440
Speaker 1: not that okay Ravioli so no, no, no, no, no

2617
02:48:50,520 --> 02:48:53,040
Speaker 1: no no. And he's like like literally and watching the

2618
02:48:53,160 --> 02:48:56,240
Speaker 1: process and to see nobody laugh. And if a joke

2619
02:48:56,280 --> 02:48:58,160
Speaker 1: doesn't work, he's like, you know, I'm like, okay, let

2620
02:48:58,200 --> 02:49:03,439
Speaker 1: me try okay. Uh nikes. So like he's real scientist,

2621
02:49:03,560 --> 02:49:06,640
Speaker 1: he's really working it out, like the reason, right, He's

2622
02:49:06,680 --> 02:49:09,600
Speaker 1: the reason why I started prepping my DJ sets, Like, oh,

2623
02:49:10,040 --> 02:49:12,400
Speaker 1: to be that great, you have to prep and then

2624
02:49:12,959 --> 02:49:15,040
Speaker 1: not just go up there and wing it. How do

2625
02:49:15,080 --> 02:49:18,440
Speaker 1: the audiences respond to him when he's working stuff out?

2626
02:49:18,480 --> 02:49:20,200
Speaker 1: You know, like you said, they might not laugh. But

2627
02:49:20,280 --> 02:49:23,920
Speaker 1: like sometimes people or sometimes it's weird because lately I'll

2628
02:49:23,959 --> 02:49:26,560
Speaker 1: see him the last year when like you just gotta

2629
02:49:26,600 --> 02:49:29,240
Speaker 1: come to the Comedy Seller, like now he if he's

2630
02:49:29,240 --> 02:49:33,120
Speaker 1: going to Comedy Seller, then everybody's gonna like Louie is

2631
02:49:33,120 --> 02:49:36,760
Speaker 1: gonna show up, Seinfield might show up, because he's definitely

2632
02:49:36,800 --> 02:49:40,760
Speaker 1: showing up. Uh, Hannibal will be there. Amy's gonna be

2633
02:49:40,800 --> 02:49:43,920
Speaker 1: If Amy and him are there, then basically nine of

2634
02:49:44,120 --> 02:49:46,520
Speaker 1: the gods of comedy will also be there. I think

2635
02:49:46,520 --> 02:49:48,840
Speaker 1: if you're coming to the Comedy Seller, if you're an

2636
02:49:48,879 --> 02:49:51,320
Speaker 1: audience member that's going to that club, I think you

2637
02:49:51,440 --> 02:49:52,840
Speaker 1: kind of know what you're in for. I think like

2638
02:49:53,000 --> 02:49:55,600
Speaker 1: they don't because when I say no Jim for meaning

2639
02:49:55,720 --> 02:49:58,600
Speaker 1: like they would like to see someone work that out,

2640
02:49:58,720 --> 02:50:03,119
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Pay sense. Ever since Louis,

2641
02:50:03,280 --> 02:50:06,440
Speaker 1: people understand that that's that the Comedy Seller is the

2642
02:50:06,560 --> 02:50:11,959
Speaker 1: working out spot. But you know it's also the you're

2643
02:50:12,000 --> 02:50:14,600
Speaker 1: caught up in the moment because you know, if Chris

2644
02:50:14,760 --> 02:50:16,879
Speaker 1: is on, then damn Kevin Hart must be oh my god,

2645
02:50:17,000 --> 02:50:20,760
Speaker 1: there he is right there like it's it's it's But also,

2646
02:50:20,840 --> 02:50:23,680
Speaker 1: like he said, comedians will they feel like them for

2647
02:50:23,720 --> 02:50:28,760
Speaker 1: each other. Also, Yeah, and the real, the real workout

2648
02:50:28,879 --> 02:50:32,320
Speaker 1: happens upstairs because once they're done and they go back

2649
02:50:32,400 --> 02:50:35,000
Speaker 1: up to that booth in the back, that's when they start,

2650
02:50:35,080 --> 02:50:36,720
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you bomble mes ship and da

2651
02:50:36,760 --> 02:50:38,560
Speaker 1: da da da da and they start comparing notes. Like

2652
02:50:38,760 --> 02:50:41,320
Speaker 1: that's the real That's the part that I wish people

2653
02:50:41,360 --> 02:50:45,119
Speaker 1: could really see about the process of of comedy building.

2654
02:50:45,280 --> 02:50:47,800
Speaker 1: There was two other things he said that I kind

2655
02:50:47,800 --> 02:50:49,560
Speaker 1: of wish we had dug a little deeper on, which

2656
02:50:49,640 --> 02:50:52,279
Speaker 1: was he talked about all of his friends doing drugs

2657
02:50:52,320 --> 02:50:54,240
Speaker 1: and he didn't, and I kind of wanted to know why,

2658
02:50:54,360 --> 02:50:56,440
Speaker 1: Like what was it? Like was he afraid? Was it health?

2659
02:50:56,560 --> 02:50:57,880
Speaker 1: Is it just like I don't want to be that

2660
02:50:57,959 --> 02:51:03,080
Speaker 1: guy because his dad would have beat his ass. I

2661
02:51:03,160 --> 02:51:04,959
Speaker 1: kind of figured that too. And then the other moment

2662
02:51:05,040 --> 02:51:07,840
Speaker 1: when he decided to go to the when he saw

2663
02:51:07,879 --> 02:51:10,600
Speaker 1: the ad and went down to the comedies, Like what

2664
02:51:10,879 --> 02:51:13,040
Speaker 1: what made him say I can do comedy? Like he

2665
02:51:13,240 --> 02:51:15,720
Speaker 1: at that point he had said nothing had ever come

2666
02:51:15,760 --> 02:51:17,680
Speaker 1: other than he was just a fan of it, like

2667
02:51:18,360 --> 02:51:21,760
Speaker 1: scientific in this approach, but he's not scientific romantic, Like

2668
02:51:21,920 --> 02:51:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm scientific romantic. I'll fetish size over Oh my god, Like,

2669
02:51:26,840 --> 02:51:29,000
Speaker 1: so when you had this MP three, you know, this,

2670
02:51:29,400 --> 02:51:32,680
Speaker 1: this MP three of this particular song, did you think

2671
02:51:32,720 --> 02:51:35,600
Speaker 1: that he can nostalgic over MP threes? Now, Shi, Well,

2672
02:51:36,000 --> 02:51:42,800
Speaker 1: I think there's but and the stories you've heard on

2673
02:51:42,879 --> 02:51:45,720
Speaker 1: this show have kind of ruined that notion because you

2674
02:51:45,840 --> 02:51:48,720
Speaker 1: hear all this stuff is happy accidents. Right. Well, I'm

2675
02:51:48,760 --> 02:51:52,040
Speaker 1: fine with the happy accidents, but no one, no one

2676
02:51:52,280 --> 02:51:57,800
Speaker 1: really scientifically genius, tends to look over there. You know,

2677
02:51:58,840 --> 02:52:01,880
Speaker 1: they're very dismissing of of their work and that stuff.

2678
02:52:01,920 --> 02:52:03,960
Speaker 1: So it's been a whole lot of happy accidents and

2679
02:52:04,040 --> 02:52:08,440
Speaker 1: not overthinking things. Yeah. I do all the overthinking anyway,

2680
02:52:08,520 --> 02:52:13,879
Speaker 1: when half of Queen Uh wait, I have a funny story,

2681
02:52:14,000 --> 02:52:16,480
Speaker 1: funny Chris Rock story. If we're ending, if we're ending

2682
02:52:16,520 --> 02:52:19,760
Speaker 1: the show. Um, it was like a year and a

2683
02:52:19,800 --> 02:52:22,440
Speaker 1: half ago. You were working on the music for UM

2684
02:52:23,200 --> 02:52:28,280
Speaker 1: for his movie Oh I Forgot scored? Yeah, and um,

2685
02:52:28,640 --> 02:52:31,040
Speaker 1: for some reason you had me text him or call him,

2686
02:52:31,080 --> 02:52:32,800
Speaker 1: and for some reason my my number ended up in

2687
02:52:32,920 --> 02:52:38,840
Speaker 1: his phone. So one night I'm at home, hi as hell,

2688
02:52:39,240 --> 02:52:43,959
Speaker 1: and uh, I get this FaceTime and it's Chris Rock, right,

2689
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Speaker 1: it says Chris Rock FaceTime, like he's calling me. So

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so I picked I pick it up

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Speaker 1: and it's Chris Rocky's like in the back of a

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Speaker 1: car or a limo or something like that, and he's like,

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Speaker 1: who is this, Like he's looking at you know, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you call me? He go, go, this is Steve Us engineer.

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Speaker 1: He goes, oh ship, he goes, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: that just happened. I go, you must have just asked

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Speaker 1: FaceTime me, you know, like as style FaceTime, Like my

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Speaker 1: number must just been in his phone and his must

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Speaker 1: have sat on his phone. So I'm like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing. He's like, goods, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: back to smoking crack now by and I just like

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Speaker 1: that was the perfect Chris rock interaction ending all right,

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Speaker 1: let me have I'm pay Bill Fox Bill and h Sugar,

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Speaker 1: Steve fon Tikolo and yeah yo this of course Love Supreme.

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Speaker 1: We will talk to you on the next girl round.

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Speaker 1: All right, of course Love Supreme. It's a production of

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. This classic episode was produced by the

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Speaker 1: team at Pandora. For more podcasts for My heart Radio,

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Speaker 1: visit the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever

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