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Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Podcast, Welcome to and that's what you were in this

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Speaker 1: podcast the very special guest edition Kevin. Who do we

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Speaker 1: have today?

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Speaker 3: Oh? My god, we have.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: This person worked, I mean maybe harder than anyone on

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Speaker 2: the show. She had to put up with us after

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Speaker 2: the long hours. She is famous in the Glee world

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Speaker 2: for making all of the behind the scenes content. It

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Speaker 2: is the one and only Kaylin Gorman.

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Speaker 1: She'd have the chase after us in between scenes, like

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Speaker 1: do you want to do SOMEPN And you're like, ah,

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Speaker 1: but I'm glad she did, because I truly said that,

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Speaker 1: like it's a moment in time that we have forever now,

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Speaker 1: even as tired as we were, but we were goofy

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Speaker 1: in some of those she spills the tea and she

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Speaker 1: also it's such so interesting what her job consisted of

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Speaker 3: So I hope you enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: And how much Ryan Murphy trusted her. She is so

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Speaker 2: good at her job and it's just a special and

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Speaker 2: kind person. This is Kaylyn Gorman.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Kaylin. So good to see you. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for being with us.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, I'm just so excited. When you messaged

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Speaker 5: the plot? I was like, oh, I was like, would

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Speaker 5: see who was on? I was like, oh, yeah, that

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Speaker 5: makes way more sense than me. So I go, oh

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Speaker 5: my gosh, we just got to spread it out.

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Speaker 2: You are Glee Royalty and yeah, like the at all.

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Speaker 2: What we know from like the fans doing this is

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Speaker 2: and beloved by all the fans. Still, yes, say yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think people don't know probably the amount of work,

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Speaker 5: Oh no, it was what I think about it all

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Speaker 5: don't think people understood, and even people I think at

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Speaker 5: Fox didn't understand what your guys' schedules were. Like you're

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Speaker 1: We use these as reference a lot for our recaps too,

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Speaker 1: because it gives us like a window into where we

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Speaker 5: My brother, by the way, who worked in entertainment, said,

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Speaker 5: I came during the pilot and covered every single episode

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Speaker 2: I'm like joking around with everyone, and all Phil hears

446
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Speaker 2: is by curious Kevin was I said that at some

447
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Speaker 2: point and so then he turns over to me. It

448
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 2: might have been the same week, because I was like.

449
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Speaker 1: What am I doing?

450
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 2: And then very discreetly same thing, like, hey, so I

451
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 2: just I'm sorry that the mic was on. It never

452
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 2: normally is, and this is what I heard. I'm like, oh,

453
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 2: it's all good. We were just joking.

454
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Speaker 3: Oh god, that's nice.

455
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: Already said that.

456
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Speaker 5: It's hard though for you, like did you, like, were

457
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 5: you kind of like I should or.

458
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it got to the point where it

459
00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:01,360
Speaker 2: felt so pointless because it's not like anybody would care

460
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Speaker 2: right at all, And it just took I think I

461
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 2: had to like get through my preconceived things of like

462
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 2: what the entertainment business was and how I could fit

463
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Speaker 2: within it. And yeah, I think it just took. Like

464
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 2: at some point Telly was like, so you like guys right,

465
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 2: And I think it took a little bit of that

466
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 2: to really help me. And like Leah was like, so

467
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 2: when you talk about this girl, you're emphasizing girl really hard.

468
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn it, she saw oh by time every

469
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 2: time in my mouth, I was telling out myself. So

470
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Speaker 2: it was really nice that around me in every department

471
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 2: there was a really supportive group of people being like, hey,

472
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: like you no, but you take your time.

473
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Speaker 1: We got you, right, we got you?

474
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Speaker 5: Yeah, did you And Chris ever talk about it, Yes,

475
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 5: very early on.

476
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Speaker 4: And what did he ever say anything to you, like

477
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Speaker 4: come on join me?

478
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: You know, I started talking to him in the first place,

479
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 2: sort of preemptively because I knew, I assumed he might

480
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Speaker 2: be gay, but wasn't out with us. It was like

481
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: pilot time and we were just rehearsing for the pilot.

482
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Speaker 2: So he and I used to talk like on aim

483
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Speaker 2: and I would like offer up myself. I'm like, hey,

484
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Speaker 2: here's my situation, just so I My intention was so

485
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Speaker 2: he had somebody he felt like he could talk to

486
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Speaker 2: that was sort of going through a similar thing because

487
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 2: we were only two years apart in age. We were

488
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: the two youngest ones in the cast, and so so

489
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Speaker 2: very early on he was very open with me, and

490
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Speaker 2: then that very quickly became Jenna and Amber included as well,

491
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: so very like almost immediately.

492
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

493
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was our little little group. When there

494
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Speaker 1: were guest stars, which we had a lot and a

495
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Speaker 1: plentiful many great guest stars, did you try to cover

496
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: those did you try to let them do their thing?

497
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Speaker 1: What was your angle on that?

498
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Speaker 5: I I mean depending on I mean, yes, most of

499
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Speaker 5: the guest stars, because the guest stars were all amazing,

500
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Speaker 5: So yeah, we always made a point of like let's

501
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Speaker 5: make sure we get you know, Ricky Martin and Carol

502
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Speaker 5: Vernett and Matt Boehmer, and you know.

503
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Speaker 4: I did anyone, I don't.

504
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Speaker 5: I think the only people we didn't cover that I

505
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 5: can remember were for various reasons were Sarah Jessica Parker

506
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 5: and would Be Goldberg hmm, would be one other one

507
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Speaker 5: that we can suffer.

508
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Speaker 1: But there's a lot that's a few out of a lot,

509
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Speaker 1: a lot of guest stars.

510
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I have to say, if you tell me,

511
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Speaker 5: if you guys remember this. When Ricky Martin was on

512
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Speaker 5: set and I think he's very attractive, but like you

513
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 5: know whatever, I was like swooning, and everybody around that

514
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 5: was like comes over and she's like, oh, he's so handsome,

515
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 5: Like everybody on men, women, young, old, did not matter.

516
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Speaker 4: Am I crazy? Or was that the vibe?

517
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Speaker 2: It was like it was almost and he was so nice,

518
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 2: like I think to offset he was probably so used

519
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 2: to rooms, like walking into rooms and everyone responding like

520
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: that where he was upsetting it or just being like

521
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 2: the kindest sweet and he was quiet, but it was

522
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Speaker 2: also so like I couldn't go talk to him. I

523
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: felt so intimidated because his first concert, right, he was,

524
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Speaker 2: but he was also everyone was sort of like glancing

525
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Speaker 2: and stealing looks because he was.

526
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Speaker 3: It's unreal.

527
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Speaker 4: It was more than just handsomeness though.

528
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Speaker 5: It's it's saying I've rarely ever encountered and I've been

529
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Speaker 5: around a lot of celebrities, and I'm just it was.

530
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Speaker 4: It was crazy, but everybody felt it. And even when

531
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Speaker 4: I was doing his interview, I felt like giddy. I

532
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 4: was like, what it was weird?

533
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Speaker 2: It felt like like when living the FDA Looka came

534
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: out and everyone was like a Riggie Martin world and

535
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 2: we were all just living in it. He's never lost

536
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: that whatever that is, like that presence and so like

537
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: that excitement was very palpable, like it was whatever year

538
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 2: that song came out. When he was there, it was

539
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: very strange, like we all just reverted to that time, like,

540
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: oh my god, I don't think.

541
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Speaker 4: There was anyone else who came that had that effect.

542
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Speaker 4: Was there? Am I forgetting someone like I think we

543
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 4: all loved?

544
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 5: But that was probably obviously Yes, I missed, yeah, but

545
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Speaker 5: I yeah.

546
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 4: So we cover all the guests, and thankfully most of

547
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Speaker 4: them did interviews.

548
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Speaker 3: And that's good.

549
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think there was anyone, you know again.

550
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Speaker 3: Professionals, you know.

551
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean all the guest stars were excited to

552
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: be there. Like it felt like everybody was a gracious

553
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: and kind of samous as they were, like they were

554
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: happy to be there and like down to do whatever.

555
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, they really, they really were. It was they were

556
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 5: I remember. But honestly, for me, when Stevie Nicks came

557
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 5: to set, I can't it.

558
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 3: It was you were there that.

559
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you were there for that.

560
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 4: And she she was like the biggest fan.

561
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 5: Like I walked her around the sets and she was

562
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 5: taking pictures like for herself, like and she was like.

563
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, look at the corn Like she was

564
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 4: one of.

565
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 5: The biggest fans of the show that I ever saw,

566
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 5: like famous.

567
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: So you took her around everywhere.

568
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then I did an interview with her.

569
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: Wow.

570
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 5: And by the way, I took my opportunity and I

571
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 5: started asking her, you know, and she told me the

572
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Speaker 5: whole story about how she wrote Landslide. It's literally like

573
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 5: I found in my in my Instagram bio the ePK

574
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 5: interviews in there, and she talked about writing Landslide and

575
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 5: she and I was like, I mean, I was like

576
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 5: a cartoon with like hard eyes, I think the whole

577
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 5: time because I'm like, you know, obviously older than you,

578
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 5: like Stevie Nicks, Like I couldn't.

579
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: That was that the coolest moment of working on Glee.

580
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 5: That was pretty high up there. Carol Burnett was also

581
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 5: that was just I felt dumbfounded, but.

582
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny.

583
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 5: You know who the interview was that I was most

584
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 5: nervous about was James Lipton because of right, and he

585
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 5: said after the interview, he said, you're very good at this.

586
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 4: I couldn't.

587
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 5: Like it was the nicest, one of the nicest things

588
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 5: anyone's ever said to me professionally like that.

589
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 4: I was so blown away, but yeah he was. He

590
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 4: was intimidating for obvious reason, but yeah, it was. It

591
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: was so it was so much fun.

592
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: That's so crazy.

593
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 4: Your job was crazy, truly, the job was, I mean,

594
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 4: and thankfully I had worked in publicity before, you know,

595
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 4: segueing into production.

596
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 5: And I when I worked in publicity, we worked with

597
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 5: al Pacino and Drew Barrymore and Tom Hanks and I

598
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 5: mean the biggest Tom cruise, like the biggest stars in

599
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 5: the world, so it I just didn't get starstruck at all,

600
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 5: and so the only person and I wished so badly

601
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 5: if David Bowie had done had gone on the show,

602
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 5: I would have probably cried through the entire interview. Yeah,

603
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 5: he was my like white whale that I was like,

604
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 5: I want to interview David Bowie, but it sadly didn't happen.

605
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 5: But yeah, I him and Prince if they were like

606
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 5: the two it's good to have dreams and goals.

607
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: Also, show like Glee, you didn't know who was going

608
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: to show up. It was totally within the realm of

609
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: possibility that one of them might have ended up on

610
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: the show, which is crazy.

611
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 4: And remember when I remember for what Javier Bardain was

612
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 4: supposed to do the show.

613
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: Yes, oh.

614
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 5: Wanted he wanted to do the show, right, because I

615
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 5: feel like Ryan had said.

616
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: That yes, yes, yeah, because they had an Eat Prey Love,

617
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: so they knew each other and then Glee was going

618
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Speaker 2: on at the same time.

619
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Speaker 5: By the way, you wanted to something crazy that you

620
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 5: guys probably had no idea about. But I think about

621
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 5: it now and I'm like, that's bonkers. When I in

622
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 5: the first like two or three seasons of Glee, every

623
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 5: single piece of content that I did. Ryan approved. Ryan

624
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 5: watched and approved every single one of them.

625
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: WHOA, I'm like surprised, and that surprised yea, I do

626
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like exactly, Wow, that's a

627
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: lot of content though.

628
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Speaker 5: I mean, I know, and the fact that in his

629
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Speaker 5: schedule because he was well, he was doing e Prey

630
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 5: Love at one point and he was wherever he was

631
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 5: around the world, and he'd still look at them and

632
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, I wanted to say, like, you don't have to.

633
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 4: But he really liked them, you know. He he told

634
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 4: me one time.

635
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 5: This is me just fully bragging sure that he said

636
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 5: to me, and you're one of the one of us

637
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 5: shouldn't say this because I don't want to make it

638
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 5: seem like negative against it. Anyway, he told me, I'll

639
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 5: kind of rephrase it a little bit. That he liked

640
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 5: the fact that I understood the tone.

641
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: Of the show.

642
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,959
Speaker 4: He felt like I was I had a real grasp

643
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 4: of the tone of the show. So he never the

644
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 4: only time he ever.

645
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 5: Gave a note, it was usually just something like, oh

646
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 5: take that out because we don't know if that's going

647
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 5: to happen or something.

648
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: It was more like a storyline kind of thing.

649
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, like it was never anything that was you know.

650
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little horrifying to think about the things

651
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: we would say and doing those interviews and he was

652
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: watching truly.

653
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 6: Wow.

654
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 4: No, he he really liked He literally liked it.

655
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 5: I think he Ryan is such He's so savvy, and

656
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 5: I think he knew, like the fact that Fox was

657
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 5: putting so much time and effort behind the show, like

658
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 5: he understood, so I think he respected how much just

659
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 5: that Fox and twentieth were doing and Twentieth International, like

660
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 5: it was such a massive, all hands on dack thing.

661
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Speaker 2: I didn't really feel like that, though, because when we

662
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: would start to see those behind the scenes scenes come

663
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Speaker 2: out and you would also sort of let us just

664
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: be stupid and crazy and wild, where it felt like

665
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: you would allow us to do that, and then a

666
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 2: lot of it would make it into the cut. You

667
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 2: understood the tone of us personally and the show so

668
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: well that it was fun like going into those interviews

669
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: at some point because I knew, like, oh, we can

670
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: also sort of in some jokes and have some fun

671
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: and Kaylen's going to like use it.

672
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: Well some bits.

673
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: You have to know that if you said something. It

674
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: was fair game, like it could be and probably would

675
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: be used, not in a bad way, but like I mean,

676
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: I would be stupid and and it would come out

677
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh that, yeah I said that. I

678
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: said it. But it was fun. It was really fun

679
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: to to chat and even more now though, like to

680
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: watch back again. Like I said, it's like it's having

681
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: these like moments in time that we are, you know, encapsulated.

682
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: Now we're there to do it, and you did it

683
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: like with such care every single day that you.

684
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: Like props when everybody played each other and we all

685
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: those like that. BTS was amazing, very was amazing.

686
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: That's what I see more than anything online.

687
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all the time.

688
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 4: I have watched it over and over.

689
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 5: And it's funny too, because you know, when you're editing something,

690
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 5: you're you're watching over and over again and I still

691
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 5: can almost verbatim tell you exactly like in certain spots

692
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 5: like what you guys, so like little things will like

693
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 5: comick out, you know, And when I watch it, I'm like,

694
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 5: that's so weird that all these years later, I remember

695
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 5: this so vividly, Like that's my memories of the show.

696
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: Are numbers and like interviews that were done that.

697
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 5: Day, Like if I couldn't tell you stories like in

698
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 5: most of the episodes, if you said, like what happened

699
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 5: in prop like I know Tina hit her head in

700
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 5: this fantasy, but then like anything ill said, it was happening,

701
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 5: no idea. I only really remember the episodes by whatever

702
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 5: bind scenes there were.

703
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: That makes me feel a lot better because I think

704
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: Jenna and I also remember a lot of the episodes

705
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 2: of the exact same way as you do. Yes, because

706
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: storylines will come We're like, what, but remember everything by

707
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: the numbers. I remember doing interviews with you all the time,

708
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: and so I think because that's directly just the behind

709
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: the scenes stuff. So it's hard to like sometimes storylines

710
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: get cut or changed, like how Ryan would say, don't

711
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: put that in there, and so it's I feel like

712
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 2: it's easier for as to forget those things. But all

713
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: the because we spent so much time together, you included

714
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: on that set, what was your process like for you

715
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: had Ryan approving it, and then so you would get

716
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: on you'd make your questions, you'd get on set, hopefully

717
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: we weren't being terrible and we'd trow for some interviews.

718
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: What was your relationship, like with the editing process and

719
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: then the network, did you have to run everything by

720
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: the network or did they sort of just trust you

721
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: to like let go and like.

722
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 4: God, you do I mean for what I shot or

723
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 4: what I.

724
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: Yeah you shot?

725
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: It was that the true process afterwards?

726
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 5: Well, Tracy who was the publicist for Fox on the

727
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 5: show Who We Love. Tracy got to the point where

728
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 5: she was like, you know this show better than like

729
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 5: anyone can hope to know it at this point. So

730
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 5: like if you think that, I would always tell her

731
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 5: I'm doing this, and she would always just be like great.

732
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 4: She never was like no, you know, unless it was

733
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 4: like a start or something. Yeah, I mean she trusts. Yeah,

734
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 4: she trusted that.

735
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 5: I you know, because after you you know, work and

736
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 5: cut you know, eighty pieces of content, people.

737
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 4: Are like, okay, I guess she might, but she so

738
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 4: so she would.

739
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 5: Tracy was the only one that I would ever say

740
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 5: I'm doing this and she'd say great, and then I

741
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 5: would go to set and then afterwards I'd take the footage.

742
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 4: I had an editor who did.

743
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 5: Not work it because it was too much of an

744
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 5: ask for anybody at Fox to do. So we had

745
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 5: an outside editor who I had worked with his names.

746
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 5: I have to give him a shout out. Quinn O'Brien.

747
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 4: He just was nominated for that one hundred foot Wave

748
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 4: that show on HBO.

749
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: He's such a good show.

750
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 5: He was nominated for editing for that recently. He's a

751
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 5: phenomenal editor. And it was insane, like he was working

752
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 5: so hard because there was so much footage also to

753
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 5: go through, and I would go through it and be like, oh,

754
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 5: this is a great shot, make sure to include this,

755
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 5: and blah blah would kind of give him a little

756
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 5: bit of guidance. But he liked to kind of do

757
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 5: a first cut for me with just his own like input,

758
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 5: and nine out of ten times he was right on

759
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 5: the money anyway. And then once they were cut, then

760
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 5: it went through at Fox.

761
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 4: There were probably.

762
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 5: Nine people who had to prove it wow. And then

763
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 5: but then Ryan and Joe Joe who was like the

764
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 5: head of Fox, you know, Joe head of marketing whatever,

765
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 5: Joe would Joe approved everything like it was it was

766
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 5: a I can't say it enough, like it was such.

767
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 4: A priority at Fox that.

768
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 5: Everybody wanted to be involved, like there was going to

769
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 5: be no missteps with this show.

770
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: Well, like Light and clicks or you know, you know, views,

771
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: it had it had to be right.

772
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

773
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 5: Also during Glee, if I'm not mistaken, it was when

774
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 5: like Twitter came out, and I mean so yep, there

775
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 5: was not a whole lot of social media going on

776
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 5: where it so really these like videos that were going

777
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 5: on YouTube or whatever were kind of it for like

778
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 5: the first part. Until then, you know, we could do

779
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 5: shorter stuff and just put it on Twitter or put

780
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 5: it on Instagram or whatever.

781
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: That's right later, that's you're at the forefront, you were.

782
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, yes, wow, Quinn and I were editing

783
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 5: these together. When you know, somebody, if someone who's being

784
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 5: kind of sarcastic and they say a comment, you know

785
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 5: they're kidding, but once when you edit it, sometimes it

786
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 5: comes out like maybe they're being like a jerk. Yes,

787
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 5: So I early on was like, well I love that bite,

788
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 5: but we got to like figure something out. So then

789
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 5: I said to Quinn cut do like a like a

790
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 5: flash cut to him laughing, and then and then it

791
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 5: won't and then and it worked, and so then from

792
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 5: then on.

793
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 4: We just called it pops of laughter. I'd be like, put,

794
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 4: we need to pop up loud here after Kevin says

795
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 4: like I hate it here or whatever.

796
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, that's a bad example.

797
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 4: Like add a pop of laughter. So if you ever

798
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 4: like are watching.

799
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 5: And you just all of a sudden in any of

800
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 5: the scenes and then you just somebody says something and

801
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 5: then it cuts to them laughing, that's typically why we

802
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 5: did that, because we just wanted because it'll be like,

803
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 5: oh God, this is like a really long day on

804
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 5: set and blah blah blah, and then it like you

805
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 5: start to think, oh god, is it seems like they're

806
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 5: really like bummed out? And then it was like figure

807
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 5: out a way to kind of bring it back so smart.

808
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: Thank godness, thank goodness. Before we let you go, I

809
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: have a very important question for you, Caitlin. What is

810
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: the feeling that Glee leaves you with it?

811
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 6: What?

812
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 5: I feel like I will cry right now, which is embarrassing,

813
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 5: but like working on the show and it's funny because

814
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 5: you guys know, but like outsiders don't know.

815
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 4: It was like this beautiful moment in time where I

816
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 4: got to go to a set full of amazing people,

817
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 4: not just you guys, the crew.

818
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 5: I can't even say enough nice things about the crew

819
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 5: because we were in their way, and they never ever

820
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 5: made us feel bad about anything, and they were a

821
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 5: phenomenal But just to like go and watch people sing

822
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 5: and dance and like watch you guys like having fun

823
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 5: off to the side, and the feeling like, you know,

824
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 5: you'd go on set and people will come up and

825
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 5: hug you, like how are you doing?

826
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 4: And it was like a job, but it was a family.

827
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 5: And so when I think about it, because I have

828
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 5: friends that sometimes I'll be like, well, Glee, and I

829
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 5: feel like they're like going, oh my god, really like

830
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 5: it's been like ten years, cruly, but I'm like, you'll

831
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 5: never understand it. Like it almost feels like if you

832
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 5: like this is a bad analogy, if you like fought

833
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 5: in a war together, like you'd always.

834
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 4: Forever you're in the trenches.

835
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 6: And it just felt like i'd really had it was

836
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 6: the best job I ever had. That's when I was saying, wow,

837
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 6: truly and you guys were really truly part of it.

838
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 5: Okay, I can't cry because that's so embarrassing. But you

839
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 5: guys were always never ever, ever and I would remember

840
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 5: because I have a lot of time, you were never

841
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 5: rude to me. You never were it made me feel

842
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 5: bad or anything, and it was and I was there

843
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 5: a lot, you know, and there would have been moments

844
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 5: where if you had been like kylein just can you

845
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 5: not or whatever, I would have been like, oh my god,

846
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 5: I feel so bad.

847
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 4: But you never did that. It just it really I

848
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 4: feel a very sense mental about it.

849
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and I.

850
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 5: Love that you're doing this podcast because I think it's

851
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 5: so I think it's interesting to come back, you know,

852
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 5: with perspective totally.

853
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 4: By the way, I have a question for you guys. Yeah, yes,

854
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 4: if you could go back.

855
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 5: To the very beginning during the pilot now and tell

856
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 5: your pilot self one thing, like give yourself like some

857
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 5: advice or something, what would you say, Oh.

858
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: Wow, it's almost very obvious, but it's like things are

859
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: going to get tough, but don't forget how very rare

860
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: and special this is. Because we got tired, and there

861
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: were times I did forget it, and that's okay. But

862
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: I think the reminder of like, because now, in hindsight

863
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: we look back, you're like, gosh, I wish I appreciated

864
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: that moment a little bit, a little bit more. I

865
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: could still be tired, but just a little bit more.

866
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: I think I would have just said, like, just remind

867
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: yourself of like how this won't last forever.

868
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 4: Happen.

869
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of that, And I think I would

870
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: add something along the lines of if you can sort

871
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: of slow it down in your head to like just

872
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: take care and those the little moments you had of

873
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: like silence, to like just really soak that up because

874
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: it's going to go on for a while and it

875
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 2: is going to get crazy. But you know, I think

876
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: that question also makes me realize that I think we

877
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: did a lot of smart things unintentionally. I you know,

878
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: I love that we were all so so close. We

879
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: did keep each other in check. Yeah, we protected each other,

880
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: and by we, I mean you you included in that

881
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 2: Klin and the crew. And so I think a lot

882
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: of those things we did really really well. And so

883
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think, you know, in that sense,

884
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,959
Speaker 2: played the long game, because obviously when we lost Corey,

885
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: things got a little crazy, and so I think to

886
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: be able to maintain that throughout would have been the

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Speaker 2: ultimate goal. But you know, life happens.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, but we were so lucky to have someone

890
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Speaker 2: like you that was like you cared and you do

891
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: care so much.

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Speaker 1: And I had fun and yeah, it was really nice

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Speaker 1: to have.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you coming on the show and chatting

896
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: with us. I think people really loved all the content

897
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Speaker 1: you made, truly and still do. I mean we do

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Speaker 1: for sure, So we really appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, thank you guys, I really, I like

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Speaker 5: I said, it really was so much fun for me

901
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 5: and you guys made it fun.

902
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 4: So thank you.

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Speaker 1: She's amazing. Thank you Kilan for coming on the show

904
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Speaker 1: and spending time with us. I don't know, she'd thankless jobs.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes, yeah, and like would fly under the radar and

906
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: like do such a great job truly, really really good when.

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Speaker 1: You know, some days we were and we really it's

908
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: just the fans really love those, and I totally get why.

909
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Speaker 1: It's like a real inside like a sneak peek into

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Speaker 1: what it was like the on set. So she did

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Speaker 1: a really really great job. Obviously.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were very lucky to have her in her

913
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Speaker 2: team every single episode because I mean, she did that

914
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Speaker 2: for a very long time, didn't we all.

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Speaker 3: Kevin, You're right.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Kaylen for coming on and being so open

917
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Speaker 2: and honest and spending so much time with us. We

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Speaker 2: really appreciate it. We love you fans. I hope listeners,

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Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy her Kaylan, because she really has

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Speaker 2: such a unique perspective of working on that show. She

921
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Speaker 2: was basically a one person department for a really long time,

922
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Speaker 2: and then Mia came on to help as well, and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's the best. We were so lucky. And that's

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Speaker 3: what you really missed.

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Speaker 2: Bye, Thanks for listening, and follow us on Instagram at

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Speaker 2: and that's what you really miss pod and make sure

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Speaker 2: to write us a review and leave us five stars.

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Speaker 2: See you next time.