WEBVTT - Banking Black is now easier than ever w/ Ryan Glover FLASHBACK

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<v Speaker 1>been in l A. We've been all over and this

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<v Speaker 1>of what you will experience at the Big Afro Tech

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<v Speaker 1>conference in Austin this November. So I am like wiped out.

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<v Speaker 1>I am I've had a remarkable day with my people.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a remarkable comedy show this this evening, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm I am over the moon excited about the

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<v Speaker 1>future because I know whose hands is in hey. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's take out this flashback of my conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Glover, who's co founder at Greenwood Bank Afro Tech World.

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<v Speaker 1>Gilly the King and social media influencer and disruptor wallow

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<v Speaker 1>to six seven are the host of The Million Dollars

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<v Speaker 1>Worth The Gang Show, a weekly podcast which is the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect blend of discussing music, real life issues, personal experiences

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<v Speaker 1>on its advice in comedy, and our interview at Afrock.

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<v Speaker 1>I ask Gilly his thoughts on how we as black

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<v Speaker 1>people in business can stand confident about our value, our perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>our sauce when it's being challenged or not respected at

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<v Speaker 1>a premium. Number One, you gotta believe in what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. That's number one. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you're being innovative and you being creative, and

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<v Speaker 1>you you know in your mind that this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I feel is gonna be the next ship. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>roll with that. I would never devalue myself, but but

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<v Speaker 1>nothing you feel what I'm saying. I know what I'm worth,

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<v Speaker 1>even even back when I was doing um record deals.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I flew down the suave house. You know

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Draper, you know, the really CEO that I ever

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<v Speaker 1>met in my life. Shout out to Tony Draper. But

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<v Speaker 1>he tried to do the ceo wine and die Rapper

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<v Speaker 1>ship to me. We got down there, We well up

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<v Speaker 1>to the gate. I never seen no house like this

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. Gates open up. He got the range

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<v Speaker 1>over a viper with the zipper windows and bad leads,

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of ship. You know what I mean. I

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<v Speaker 1>go in the drive. We we bust. I'm talking now business.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm down there two old days. I'm meeting superstars. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>playing two and two against Jacket Edge. You. I'm gonnaigga

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<v Speaker 1>straight from Nord Philly. Yeah eyes, why I like this?

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<v Speaker 1>The artist pulling up, his artists pulling up. That's already

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<v Speaker 1>going eight more pull up. He and the big body,

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred fans m j T pull up me in

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<v Speaker 1>the old school. I'm like, God, damn, these niggas doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Next day, Yes, big ball, pull up here and some

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<v Speaker 1>something different. I'm like, damn, when it was time to

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<v Speaker 1>talk that business, don't want now the value ain't going on.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I wanted, he said. I ain't never

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<v Speaker 1>gave a deal out that big in my life. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was nice meeting your drink, but I'm going back

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<v Speaker 1>to silly and he said, uh, you know what. I

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I like that you got that. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was just me believing in myself. You feel what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying and believing it because sometimes you get around these

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<v Speaker 1>companies and the motherfuck have been and playing longer than you,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are you doubting yourself. Mhm No, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's supposed to go like that, because uh, then

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<v Speaker 1>you were doing the same ship says eighty one. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Tom I'm with Lucas and this is black tech, Green money.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna enter this. You to some of the biggest names,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the brightest minds and brilliant ideas. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>black and building or simply using tech to secure your bank,

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast is for you. Ryan Glover is co founder

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<v Speaker 1>and chairman at Greenwood Bank, the new digital bank he's

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<v Speaker 1>building with Michael Render, a KA rapper, Killing Mike Ambassador,

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Young, and serial tech entrepreneur Paul Judge. Greenwoods mission

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<v Speaker 1>is to help Blacks and Latinos take control of the

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<v Speaker 1>financial destiny and build generational wealth. Previous degree with Bank,

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan was in the music business as co founder of Noontime,

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<v Speaker 1>the music publishing and management company which represented people like

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<v Speaker 1>Jazzy Faye, Sierra Grammy, and war When He producer Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Cox and others. He's also founder of bound CV,

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<v Speaker 1>the national cable network, and the Restaurant in Atlanta Agency.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan got his career jump started at Howard alongside Puff

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<v Speaker 1>Daddy and Cassine Read, who would go on to be

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<v Speaker 1>the Mayor of Atlanta. As a student, Cassine Read compelled

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan to produce a hip hop concert for homecoming weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Of all the people who could have produced that concert

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<v Speaker 1>would set off his stellar career. I wonder why Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>was recruited, what made him so special all those years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've always been well, I've always been excited about

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<v Speaker 1>the entertainment industry, right, But I can't rap, sing, dance

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<v Speaker 1>my way out of a paperbag. Right, So I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been excited about entertainment, but from a business perspective. Um So,

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<v Speaker 1>So back then on the on campus, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>saw the energy that was being created not just on

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<v Speaker 1>our campus, but the musical energy that existed clearly in

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<v Speaker 1>New York, clearly in California where I was from, where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from, and Atlanta, and I thought it would be

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing idea will to bring that energy to Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. And to on to Howard's campus, right amidst

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<v Speaker 1>the wonderful culture of the of the go go experience

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<v Speaker 1>that existed in in d C. So it's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>gumbo that was being created right there on on Howard's campus.

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<v Speaker 1>And I tell you this, you know, being all at

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<v Speaker 1>Howard during those times was an incredible education, right. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only was I learning, will you know, scholastically, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was also learning um other cultures really Michael, within

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<v Speaker 1>my own culture, from individuals from different parts of the country, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and built relationships, um with those individuals from Chicago, from

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<v Speaker 1>New York, from d C, from Texas, and those relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>as I tell my children today, are the relationships that

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<v Speaker 1>have helped me become successful. Um. In life across multiple industries. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, I went to how Our university, graduated

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<v Speaker 1>from Howard, relocated to Atlanta, started a music and publishing

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<v Speaker 1>company called Noontime. We made records at Noontime from everybody

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<v Speaker 1>from Mary J. Blige to Aaliyah. We made records for

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<v Speaker 1>puff Uh. We signed um Jeezy Noontime, we signed Sierra UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But those relationships that we used to build that my

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<v Speaker 1>first business, our first business I garnered on Howard's campus, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it was the relationships that I built, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was also the ability to do business right from with

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<v Speaker 1>the individuals that I that I met at Howard And

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<v Speaker 1>that's really my foundation of of business and how I

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<v Speaker 1>move UM into the future of of of Greenwood. There's

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<v Speaker 1>so many young people who listen to this podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>have dreams about being that front and center performer or

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<v Speaker 1>the athlete or whatever. UM, and you said this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't grap sing or dance whatever to say in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. UM, in the pursuit of the business side

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<v Speaker 1>of the entertainment industry A New Times where I met you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so many years ago, feels like, UM, what

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<v Speaker 1>did you realize about the economical difference between the performer

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<v Speaker 1>who ultimately gets the bright lights and takes the selfies

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<v Speaker 1>with fans versus the person who may walk into a

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<v Speaker 1>room or go into a crowd undetected or unnoticed. So

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<v Speaker 1>so on. On the economic side, um, let me just

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<v Speaker 1>address address that. You know, it's lights, camera action, so

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<v Speaker 1>so saving is always should be always at the forefront

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<v Speaker 1>of anybody in entertainment or any other industries, uh frontal

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<v Speaker 1>low in their thinking right because as we all know,

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<v Speaker 1>in entertainment specifically, but just in life, nothing lasts forever.

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<v Speaker 1>So so once you have that understanding that that you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the right lights, at some point those lights will dim.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care if you are on stage or I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care if you are backstage. Right, there is always

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<v Speaker 1>someone who is gonna be a little more talented than

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<v Speaker 1>you are, a little younger than you, a little faster

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<v Speaker 1>than you. So you really have to look at your

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<v Speaker 1>talent and understand will that that it's everything lass in

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<v Speaker 1>chapters and in seasons. So you have to prepare yourself accordingly.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as a business person, you know I've been

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<v Speaker 1>saying the art of recalibration is what can what allows

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<v Speaker 1>you as a businessman to continue to grow. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in in music, I've been in television and film.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I am in uh in banking services and digital

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<v Speaker 1>banking services industry. And you know, my recalibration has um

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<v Speaker 1>allowed me to change industries. Right, But my strategies in

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<v Speaker 1>the way I operate as a businessman remains consistent, and

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<v Speaker 1>and that really starts with for me, trusting in God

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<v Speaker 1>and putting God first with whatever I do right and

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<v Speaker 1>then also doing the best that I can to treat

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<v Speaker 1>people the way I want to be treated, um, whether

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<v Speaker 1>they are on my side of the negotiating table or

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<v Speaker 1>on the or whether they're on the opposite side of

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<v Speaker 1>the table. A lot of times people will realize, you know, truly,

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<v Speaker 1>honesty is really the best policy, whether you right, whether

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<v Speaker 1>whether whether you want to. You'd say something to somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that you think that they don't want to hear, and

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<v Speaker 1>they might not want to hear it, but at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, if you're dealing with grown ups,

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<v Speaker 1>grown ups will understand it and respect it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>that will allow you no matter where your professional career

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<v Speaker 1>journey takes you, will allow you to garner that same

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<v Speaker 1>respect with that earlier individual or with the individual that

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<v Speaker 1>you're a current be dealing with in that given time.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, those are my two basic strategies of whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And listen, if I move to, um, opening up a

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<v Speaker 1>hot dog stand in front of a a sports arena,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna use the same strategies of the same strategies

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<v Speaker 1>I use in banking, the same strategies that I use

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<v Speaker 1>intellivigient film, same strategies and methodologies are using music. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that honestly gives them the opportunity to deal with it. However,

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<v Speaker 1>they got to deal with it, but come back to

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<v Speaker 1>the table for everybody's benefit. Yeah. Yeah, you mentioned relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, you know I saw an interview with you

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<v Speaker 1>where you said the best business advice you ever received

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<v Speaker 1>was never give your partner surprises. Um. When I think

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<v Speaker 1>about that advice, I consider how much a business partnership

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a marriage and probably shouldn't be entered into frivolously. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And if if then we are of culture, as in

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<v Speaker 1>black people, if we are the culture that drives all

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<v Speaker 1>global culture, whether you're talking about food, fashion, music, sports

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Then if you put two or three of

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<v Speaker 1>us together, um, we should dominate, right if we're to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, globally and all of these things, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>not in everything, And so I wonder, um, is it

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<v Speaker 1>because we may be misaligned with our partnerships or is

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<v Speaker 1>it something else? I wonder what your thoughts are on

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<v Speaker 1>how to build successful business partnerships because you've done so

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<v Speaker 1>many over your career. Well, I should say, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>so building successful partnerships. You know, in all candor, oftentimes

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<v Speaker 1>people look at like myself, they only remember the successes.

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<v Speaker 1>But will I have had multiple upon multiple upon multiple

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<v Speaker 1>failures right to go along with those successes, I've actually

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<v Speaker 1>learned more and appreciated and it sounds crazy, more in

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<v Speaker 1>my failures than my successes, right. And in those failures,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I learned really how to treat people and

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<v Speaker 1>how to um identify not just talent but also partnerships

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<v Speaker 1>that I went and applied those tactics and strategies two

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<v Speaker 1>businesses that ended up working. Right. So you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>live in a generation now where everybody wants everything microwavable,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know I you mentioned already promotion at Howard.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to study, go to school, study, taking nap

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<v Speaker 1>at night, wake up at twelve am in the morning

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<v Speaker 1>and go pass out three thousand, four thousand flyers hand

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<v Speaker 1>to hand at an event, at an upcoming event that

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<v Speaker 1>I was promoting into the wee bit hours and then

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<v Speaker 1>get up and do it all over again weeks on

0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:40.360
<v Speaker 1>end while at school while promoting. Right, that's that's the

0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:45.760
<v Speaker 1>grind now kids a lot of times and Raley, So

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<v Speaker 1>technology is great. I'm thank the Lord for technology. But

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<v Speaker 1>technology is could be a gift and a curse at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, because although you know, the younger generation

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely on the hustle and I love it. I

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<v Speaker 1>love everything that I see um from the the younger

0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:14.760
<v Speaker 1>generation across multiple industries. But there's something to the fact

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<v Speaker 1>to the art for me of putting a flyer on

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<v Speaker 1>a car, Right, I did that. I did that. That

0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that that you just you can't duplicate that. That grind

0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:37.320
<v Speaker 1>hand combat, yeah, yeah, and that grind, that grind is

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<v Speaker 1>always in the forefront of my mind whatever I do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ironic. Man. The the more uh the world perceives

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<v Speaker 1>of my success, uh, the more instable in stable I become.

0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.399
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm like, you know, I don't, I can't. I

0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:08.720
<v Speaker 1>can't really, I can't really process success. I can only process.

0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I can't process past success. I can only focus on

0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.120
<v Speaker 1>what's in front of me, right, I get it. Yeah,

0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:20.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm not looking backwards. I'm looking forwards, um, because there's

0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:24.320
<v Speaker 1>there's still more work to be done, there's still more

0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:29.200
<v Speaker 1>good trouble to get into, you know. Um, so so

0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:34.479
<v Speaker 1>so that's that's that's my mindset, man, um. Far too

0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.439
<v Speaker 1>many of us in our community have dreams of starting

0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:41.800
<v Speaker 1>companies and don't have adequate business business banking relationships right

0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.639
<v Speaker 1>or banking relationships period um. In fact, too many of

0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:49.359
<v Speaker 1>us avoid banks altogether and or just use banks for

0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:52.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, depositing their check and you know debit cards. Right.

0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.440
<v Speaker 1>And you said in the previous interview, Uh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>our time speaking about Greenwood to take back control of

0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:03.240
<v Speaker 1>our lives, our financial future, um, for it would be

0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:07.119
<v Speaker 1>entrepreneur in our community. What does a good banking relationship

0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:08.879
<v Speaker 1>look like? This is a big question, but what does

0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.880
<v Speaker 1>a good banking relationship look like? How are we supposed

0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:15.480
<v Speaker 1>to engage with banks? Um? Bankers A should say, even

0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:19.240
<v Speaker 1>for services other than justment making deposits into an account?

0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:21.520
<v Speaker 1>And what level of banker should we be talking to?

0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Like so we start with the teller, like, what, let's

0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:28.240
<v Speaker 1>walk us through this. Yeah, so so so I believe

0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:33.480
<v Speaker 1>speaking of technology, we're in a new digital age. So

0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:40.720
<v Speaker 1>sixty of Americans are banking digitally currently UM. That number

0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:46.200
<v Speaker 1>is kicking up around three per year. And there are

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<v Speaker 1>really no authentic digital banking solutions that cater to the

0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:58.800
<v Speaker 1>African American and Latin X community really until Greenwood. So

0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:03.600
<v Speaker 1>we're a fintech neil bank that provides modern digital banking

0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:08.359
<v Speaker 1>services for for the for the culture. Right. So, so

0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:12.840
<v Speaker 1>you know some of our services your full service UH

0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:16.680
<v Speaker 1>bank in your hand, savings and spending the count. We

0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:20.440
<v Speaker 1>have Apple and Android pay, peer to peer, money transfers,

0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:25.560
<v Speaker 1>mobile deposits, global ATM network, UM, no hidden fees, and

0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:30.560
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite features UM today early early pay UM.

0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:33.520
<v Speaker 1>But the fact of the matter is there are three

0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:37.840
<v Speaker 1>problems well that we will solve UM and as a

0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:44.880
<v Speaker 1>reason why we stood, we're standing green with up UM. One. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in our communities there are far too many

0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:56.080
<v Speaker 1>predatory banking services that we cater to. We want to

0:20:56.320 --> 0:21:04.840
<v Speaker 1>extinguish those predatory services. Two and oh to Greenwood, we

0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:10.720
<v Speaker 1>want to be a part of the solution of recirculating

0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:17.760
<v Speaker 1>capital back into our communities as once had what was

0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:23.280
<v Speaker 1>happened in the Greenwood District in Tulsa, Oklahoma. UM. You know,

0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:27.520
<v Speaker 1>we often hear about Black Wall Street in all of

0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:33.040
<v Speaker 1>the thriving businesses that existed during the twenties and that time.

0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:37.359
<v Speaker 1>But you know the reason why those businesses flourished is

0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:43.680
<v Speaker 1>because one dollar recirculated thirty six times in that one community,

0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and that allowed UM. That allowed the barber, the banks,

0:21:52.480 --> 0:22:00.239
<v Speaker 1>the the grocers, the attorneys, right the the doctors, right

0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the bowling alleys though, whatever businesses were in those communities,

0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:10.439
<v Speaker 1>that money recirculated and everybody got a bite at the apple.

0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately for us in our community today, one dollar man

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:24.080
<v Speaker 1>recirculates six hours. So so you know, at Greenwood, through

0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:29.359
<v Speaker 1>our Greenwood Gives Back round Up program, our customers have

0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:35.360
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to donate their rounded up changed to three

0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:40.879
<v Speaker 1>causes we care about UM. One the n double A

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<v Speaker 1>CP to fight civil rights, UM to U n c

0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:50.879
<v Speaker 1>F to support education. And three there's a wonderful company

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:55.160
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta that feeds um the hungry and homeless called

0:22:55.200 --> 0:23:01.280
<v Speaker 1>good Er UM. And our customers have the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>donate a portion of their rounded of change to either

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.840
<v Speaker 1>one of those organizations or a combination of the three.

0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:14.719
<v Speaker 1>And then every quarter Greenwood UM we will UM as

0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:18.000
<v Speaker 1>a banking solution donate and match those funds to those

0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:24.800
<v Speaker 1>to those organizations. The third UM solution, the third problem

0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:28.560
<v Speaker 1>that we're going to solve is the deployment of capital

0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:36.639
<v Speaker 1>in our communities. Right. So, you know, I've started a

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:40.240
<v Speaker 1>couple of businesses that have done well. None of those

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 1>businesses we're started or stood up with banking capital. So

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:52.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't have the relationships that our counterparts

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:59.879
<v Speaker 1>have UM that allows us to create wealth personally or

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:07.359
<v Speaker 1>professionally like others do UM and and we plan on

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 1>solving that problem UM or being a part of the

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:16.359
<v Speaker 1>solution to that problem. Uh So, really to answer your question,

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, we we are an authentic banking solution that

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<v Speaker 1>knows how to because I am one identify small business

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:35.639
<v Speaker 1>owners UM that that you know have great ideas, have

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:41.160
<v Speaker 1>wonderful talent, I have a great support system, have a marketplace,

0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:46.440
<v Speaker 1>but just don't have the capital to two turn their

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 1>business from a micro business to a major business. And

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:56.360
<v Speaker 1>we're we're bullish, We're bullish on that um UM as

0:24:56.480 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 1>a as A as a company. This she I read

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the book The Color of Money by Mercer Barraturan, and

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>she talked about how black people have not yet overcome

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the mindset and systemic oppression of being capital to having capital.

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.399
<v Speaker 1>Ryan's new effort with Green Would Bank, it's on the

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:27.119
<v Speaker 1>mission to change that for many have tried before. How

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 1>will Green Would make an impact on this pervasive issue?

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Glover speaks on it, Well, we have good reason.

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:39.360
<v Speaker 1>You read the book, so you understand we have good

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:47.400
<v Speaker 1>reason to mistrust banks. So you know in eighteen hundreds

0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 1>US A Freeman's bank, that right that that actually duped

0:25:56.560 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>thousands of African Americans out of their savings, and those

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>trustees who ran the bank, uh misappropriated their funds into

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 1>investments that never panned out. They're over three thousand um

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 1>um um um individuals who lost who lost money in

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:27.119
<v Speaker 1>that one bank and that actual trad tragedy and travesty. Unfortunately,

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 1>from a folklore standpoint, that story has been told generation

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 1>to generation and we haven't gotten over it as a culture. Um.

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:44.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's no there's no mystery or there's no

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>falsehood in our grandparents are great grandparents actually using their

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>mattresses as their savings and deposits, right because bank mistrust.

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 1>And then fast forward, you know all of the the

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the the issues that some traditional banks have had with

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:18.880
<v Speaker 1>predatory lending, redlining. Um you know of the sort. Uh

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, the current community doesn't we're not we're not

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>trusting banks, um curb currently right. So you know we

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>know also too that we are as a community, uh

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot less likely to receive loans than our white counterparts.

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:47.399
<v Speaker 1>So all of that combustion, combustible bad will for decades

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>has created a mistrust in banks, right. Um, you know,

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:59.680
<v Speaker 1>we are attempting to build that trust back, and we're

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>coming at an approaching it from a standpoint of I

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>am not a banker, but we have hired bankers to

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:17.199
<v Speaker 1>operate our business. But me not being a physical banker,

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I understand. I believe what the community and the small

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>business person and just the everyday African American and Latin

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>X customer needs to understand on creating an authentic banking solution.

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>And we're speaking directly and authentically, um to to that

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>to that individual and hopefully over time we will build

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>trust back into the community from a banking perspective. Um,

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, and yes there are other great African American

0:28:55.440 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>banks that that exists, but I candidly think, you know

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>not no of the traditionals or the African American current

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>banks are speaking to the generation, Um, that we currently

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>exist in the way we organically and authentically can and

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>that's what we're that's what we're going to do it. Um,

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 1>you've broken into very well, you know, these industries that

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>have high bars in a lot of ways to get into,

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what, whether it be owning television stations and

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>not holding a bank, etcetera. And talk to me like

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>number one, like, what what is it that Ryan has

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>in his background that says, you know what, we're going

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>to give him the keys to this next level of

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 1>success because a lot of people may go to start

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:47.719
<v Speaker 1>a television network and can't get it done. A lot

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 1>of people want to start a bank, can't get it done,

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>not for like a trying, But what is it? What

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>is it that people miss? Here? Here's my secret partner

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:06.959
<v Speaker 1>with people as smart or smarter than you in those industries. Okay,

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>that's where I start. UM. I always start with whether

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>whether it be music, television, and film. UM, Now, banking services.

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I start with where is the opportunity and that KNT

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>could be filled? That's not right. In music, we started

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Noontime from the auspices of they are amazed a ton

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 1>of amazing production companies and record companies that are doing

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>amazing work. So so Deaf bad Boy, Deaf Jam death

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:57.959
<v Speaker 1>Row right, death Row came a little bit after us,

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>but you get my get my point um. But we

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 1>at noon time, we all knew myself, Chris Hicks and

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Henry Lead, We all knew that neither none of us

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>could wrap singer dance away out of a paper bag.

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>But we are Angle was being the best business people

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>that we could be to support the talent. Right that

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>that led the company. We weren't the talent. And the

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>other companies that we were competing with, they were led

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>by talent. Our Angle was not to lead by talent,

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>but lead through business and business executives. Right, So that

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>was our niche bounce. We were the first African We

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:55.959
<v Speaker 1>are the first African American broadcast network in existence. Right,

0:31:56.600 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>we knew, I knew that black and brown folks, um

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, wanted to watch compelling, captivating entertainment, entertaining television programming.

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>But we all don't have dollars to UH enlisted in

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 1>a cable operator, right, So how can we become the

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:29.479
<v Speaker 1>first over the air network that provided free entertaining UM

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 1>content to the masses over the air broadcast content like

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>an NBC, ABC, Fox. And we did it UM and

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>partnered with individuals who knew that business like the back

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of their hands. Same thing with with with Greenwood UM.

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>There's an opportunity to serve a zero served African American

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>and Latin X community for a digital banking perspective UM.

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Partnering with bankers, UM and individuals of like thinking to

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>grow this business is the way we're growing the Greenwood

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>UH banking solution. So all all of the businesses that

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 1>have all ever started always have started with the mission

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 1>and then a devout commitment to create UH compelling content

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 1>that I believe resonate with our consumers UM and then

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>do it consistently UM. And that has just grown. And

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I believe, you know, going back to trust, will you know,

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>based on my past successes and failures that folks don't

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about, I have built trust as an executive and

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 1>that is carried over and from music to television and

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>film and now the banking and in that trust is

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 1>resonating in the community with our mission at Greenwood. UM.

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of what you were appointed to the Martyr board

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>back and I think seen um, which to me indicates

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 1>like that you see the correlations between like political power

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:35.240
<v Speaker 1>or influence and a true opportunity to serve your community

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:38.720
<v Speaker 1>and make it better. UM. So many business people avoid

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 1>getting involved in government or politics, and so many government

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>types either avoided don't have the jobs to succeed in

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 1>an enterprise. UM. For those of us out there who

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:52.320
<v Speaker 1>are growing companies but also are getting called on to serve,

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 1>how do you recommend we or they? UM, both think

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 1>about their responsibility and their overall can see an ability

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>to create chase for the community and for you know,

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 1>their lineage. So here's how I'll answer that and kind

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:12.439
<v Speaker 1>of be around the block, but I'll get to my point.

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>So I have five children from the ages of twenty

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>one uh to seven, and I believe in that the

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>more time you invest time that you invest into your children,

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the more successful they will become, and the the the

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>more valuable from an economic standpoint they will become for themselves. Okay,

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 1>soh so that time that I invest into my children

0:35:56.239 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>may be perceived or directly a time suck for me

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<v Speaker 1>that is not registering to a dollar earned. Right, what

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that that investment that I don't reap a

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<v Speaker 1>monetary benefit from, will harvest itself in my children's life generationally,

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<v Speaker 1>that will provide for generational wealth down the world. Okay, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the analogy. The more you lend your talents and

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<v Speaker 1>your services two causes and organizations that span outside of

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<v Speaker 1>where you directly earn a living, too, will build and

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<v Speaker 1>harvest relationships and value where that right that you will

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<v Speaker 1>benefit from um. And you might not benefit from it

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<v Speaker 1>directly or the next day or the next week, but

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<v Speaker 1>inevitably you will benefit directly or you know, or you

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<v Speaker 1>will be the benefactor, or you will allow someone else

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<v Speaker 1>to benefit from the from the knowledge that you provide

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<v Speaker 1>to them, which is the value. Right. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I often I get asked to do favors often, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times UM individuals say hey, well if

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<v Speaker 1>you can do this for me, I will do that

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<v Speaker 1>this for you. I will never do favors looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a direct return, right, because I know, and I've been

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<v Speaker 1>living long enough to know that that return will come

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<v Speaker 1>in a different form and fashion. Um, maybe not even

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<v Speaker 1>directly back to me, but someone that I have a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with or get this, I may need that same

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<v Speaker 1>favor of the person in ten years of the person

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<v Speaker 1>that asked me for the favor ten years previous. So

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<v Speaker 1>I like to bank my favors. No pun intendon. That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good man, That's really really good. That was heavy

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<v Speaker 1>been there? What kind of benefit did going digital all

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<v Speaker 1>digital have for you in Greenwood? Like, could you have

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<v Speaker 1>achieved your mission of building wealth you know, money circulation

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<v Speaker 1>in the black community and generational wealth transfer with brick

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<v Speaker 1>and Mortar. And here's what I'm getting out before you

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<v Speaker 1>answer it. What is different about the opportunity in doing

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<v Speaker 1>business to day at scale versus eighteen years ago or

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<v Speaker 1>years ago? Yeah, so brick and Mortar, No, um, because

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<v Speaker 1>my our message can resonate in California, it can resonate

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago, it can resonate in Atlanta, it can resonate

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<v Speaker 1>in Savannah, it can resonate in d C. It can

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<v Speaker 1>resonate in Newark, it can resonate in Compton, it can

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<v Speaker 1>resonate um. Currently, domestically it's going to resonate internationally as well. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we could not stand up, um brick and mortar banks

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<v Speaker 1>fast enough right in order to I believe, keep up

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<v Speaker 1>with the demand of the service that we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to provide. Two, I believe that those brick and mortar

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<v Speaker 1>costs are are not necessarily archaic in having to do

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<v Speaker 1>but don't serve the customer as well as a digital

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<v Speaker 1>offering will, because at some point the customer pays for

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<v Speaker 1>that brick and mortar spind, it trickles down in some way,

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<v Speaker 1>shape or form. Okay, we nor any other bank or charities.

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<v Speaker 1>So we will make money, but we hope to make

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<v Speaker 1>our customers uh a lot more money as well than

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<v Speaker 1>they're currently making as well. So so that's our philosophy

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<v Speaker 1>on on brick and mortar. No, and finally, Ryan, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take us back to the beginning because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to end on this which I think is a

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<v Speaker 1>really powerful thing. So, Um, you graduated with a degree

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<v Speaker 1>in accounting and after a while I read the story said,

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<v Speaker 1>after a while of working in the field, Um, you

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<v Speaker 1>called to tell your mom that you hated working in

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<v Speaker 1>the county, and she cursed you out for about thirty

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<v Speaker 1>straight minutes and afterwards gave you your blessing to go

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<v Speaker 1>into your thing in music. And so the chapters of

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<v Speaker 1>your career looks something like, you know, accounting the music,

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<v Speaker 1>to fashion with Ryan Kinney, to TV and now to banking.

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<v Speaker 1>For people who today might feel that some cost of

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<v Speaker 1>spending so much time pursuing something, or so much time

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<v Speaker 1>in an industry that that may not feel them, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean keeps them from switching gears. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>hope your story inspires in them? Be brave? Right, um?

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<v Speaker 1>Trust God and be brave. Um. And thirdly, uh, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to be more in line with your passion then

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the money that you think you'll make. The harder you

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<v Speaker 1>chase a dollar, the faster that dollar will run away

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<v Speaker 1>from you, You follow your passion, you follow your heart,

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<v Speaker 1>and you follow your talent. All right, Listen, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to play second base for the Atlanta Braves right now,

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<v Speaker 1>right at fifty, I still think I can turn a

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<v Speaker 1>mean double play. Um, but I'm fifty and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>turn a mean double play like a guy a team

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<v Speaker 1>right nineteen twenty, that's right, that's in the maize, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm passionate about baseball. I love the sport, but

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<v Speaker 1>my talent isn't there. So you gotta marry. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>marry being brave, with with passion, with for me, faith

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<v Speaker 1>in God and talent right and a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>when I say talent, it may not be personal talent

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<v Speaker 1>that you own, but you have to be intelligent enough

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<v Speaker 1>to partner with individuals who have that talent that you need,

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<v Speaker 1>that can work with the talent that you have in

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<v Speaker 1>order to make your vision growth. So so that is

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<v Speaker 1>that that would be my three or four keys to success.

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