WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Pass Rush Forecast 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:04.880 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:08.559 and ahead, he got jacked. This is the Big Red 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:14.040 Rain presented by Santanford in Gilbert. Harry's gonna score touchdown 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:17.160 Slam to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:22.759 He came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:27.960 to you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Santanford 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.360 State Farm? Talk to an agent today at eight hundred 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:37.080 State Farm and buy Arizona Cardinals podcasts. Visit Hacy Cardinals 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:45.280 dot com, Slash podcasts. The Red scen Rising Guard, temperaturizing vision, 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.880 flurring rage, taking it over. Here's Paul Calvci. I'm ready. 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:52.760 I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.200 And Ron Wolflee it doesn't get any better than that. 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:01.240 Unleash the far. I don't know about either one of those, 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.400 but I do know that I'm about to quote. Here 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:08.880 we go. You can't win right now, but you can lose. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:14.240 The words earlier today from Pro Bowl running back James Connor, 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:18.960 who brings both the attitude and perspective, how about it 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.840 talking to the media after an ota earlier today, In fact, 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.040 did you see where the Cardinals tweeted out Ron Wolfley 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.320 and I quote here, it's a beautiful day for OTA's 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:32.840 high temperature today by the way, officially one oh nine. Yeah, Polly, 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:37.320 I did see that. What's your point. It's host You know, 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:39.479 guys are out there, they're getting used to the heat. 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.479 You know, you get It's there's a difference of opinion 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.760 perhaps amongst some guys. J J. Watt, for example, says 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.600 he loves how the heat feels on his body and 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:52.160 the natural turf at Cardinals practices. Of course, he probably 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.360 didn't love going viral when he tripped over in bag 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.360 during one of the d Line drolls earlier today, Down 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.279 goes JJ Watt. It's one of the coolest things, Polly, 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:03.559 just watching that, I mean J. J. Watt not going 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.840 down it was I mean that just watching him work 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:10.120 his way through that drill, Polly, I mean, that was 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.920 to the wall, as we used to say back in 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.280 the day. That was that was a guy that was 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.440 going through those bags and he was doing it with 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:23.800 intent and that's why he spilled it right there. But 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.840 I love the fact he poked it himself. Yeah, you know, 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.959 a little. He did one on Twitter he had some 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.840 fun with it, right, he owned it, and that's nothing Wolf. 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:33.920 I mean, that kind of embarrassment is nothing coming from 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.399 a guy. Correct me if I'm wrong, who once upon 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.760 a time lost his cookies on the boots of John 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:42.920 bon Jovi. Yeah that was me, Polly, Sorry, Yeah, you 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.320 know what, Oh John Bond. Actually I didn't hit his 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.760 boots ball, but it was really really close and he 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.120 backed away. As a matter of fact that I looked 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:55.239 up after puking all over the field and yes, Paul, 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.760 there was John bon Jovi. And by the way, Polly, 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.520 he had a blonde on his arm. I'm just say it, right, 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.679 befitting John Bond. Okay, I get it. Well, look, it's 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:07.320 the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.640 We are santan Ford and we will have outside linebackers 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:14.280 coach Charlie Bullen joining us momentarily. I mean, if you 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.560 have questions about where the Cardinals and how the Cardinals 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.160 are going to generate a pass rush, well we're going 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:21.919 to talk to one of the guys working on that. 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:25.239 We'll talk about Chandler Jones. The absence thereof the emergence 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:29.960 of Dennis Cardak, the rookies. The scheme will cover all that, right, 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.800 just like we're going to cover the week that was 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:34.560 as we get towards the end of the week. Here 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.000 on Big Red Rage, was Kyler at OTAs this week? No, 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.920 he was there last week and he's expecting next week 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.600 for the mandatory mini camp. In between, we heard from 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.160 zach Ertz on the Dave Pash Podcast Wolf And here 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.040 was zach Ertz the tight Ends answer when asked about Kyler. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.760 Kyler is the most talented player I've ever been around, 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.360 player player period. There is no doubt. There's nothing he 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.600 cannot do on a football field. He can be like 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.400 La R. Jackson and take off and run for a 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:05.240 hundred plus yards in a game, or in my opinion, 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.000 you can sit in the pocket and not even worry 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:08.960 about his legs and just dinking dunk all the way 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.440 down the field. He's super, super accurate, and there's just 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:13.360 nothing he can do. I don't know that. I can't 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:17.200 really explain it. That's pretty strong. On the Dave Fash Podcast, 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.200 your reaction what zach Ertz said about his quarterback. Yeah, 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.200 the first thing you have to look at is he 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.039 could have easily qualified it PAULI. He could have qualified 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.000 it by saying he's one of the most talented players 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.719 I've ever played with. He could have qualified it. He 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:34.120 did not qualify at all. He said he is the 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.279 most talented player that I've ever played with. Now, Paul, 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.920 let me just caution you, though, and I think zach 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.760 Ertz would agree with us. When you say somebody's the 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.640 most talented, it doesn't necessarily mean he's the best player 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.680 I've ever played with. There's a big difference, I think 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:54.560 between that. But the talent is certainly there with Kyler Murray. 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:58.240 That's something we've all known. Meaning there's still a ceiling, right, 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.320 I mean exactly, there's still potent. She'll be realized and 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:03.200 we get it. He's got three years in the league, 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.240 he's still twenty four years of age. He has two 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.599 Pro Bowls under his belt. And for all that, here's 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.440 what DJ Humphreys told the media this week when asked 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:15.240 about whether Kyler is the future or not. And let's 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:18.200 just say, the left tackle and former namesake on this 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.960 show had a message for all those Kyler doubters. If 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.080 you think that Kyler is not our future, you are 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:24.599 a plumb fool, you know, what I mean. I just 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:27.320 I said that again. If you think that he's not 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.360 our future, you are absolutely and you just start out 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.080 on the drinking in the daytime, you know what I mean? 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.520 Like I know Scott Stale big on Sunday Funday, but 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.880 you got ditted back a little bit. You know. Well, 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.400 do you first off, in all the years we've done 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.960 this show with DJ Humphreys, do you remember him using 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:47.840 the phrase plumb full? That's the South Carolina in him. Yeah, no, 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.040 that It certainly came out right there. And Paul, I've 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.680 never heard him say plump full. I laughed out loud 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:55.640 when I first heard that. I don't know about you, Paul. 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.839 Anybody plumb full. I haven't heard plump full and a 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.960 long long time. Yeah, It's like belongs in a John 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.279 Steinbeck novel or something. It was good. That was good. 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.719 I think. I think what DJ is saying once again, 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.920 Um yeah, there's no doubt about it. The organization, I 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.400 think we all agree they're going to extend Kyler Murray. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.679 They're going to do it this summer at some point 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.279 in time when that is, I don't know, Polly, I 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.000 said June twenty eighth, I just picked the number out 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.800 of the air of you. What say you, Polly, I 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:27.280 don't know when thirteenth, the day before the mandatory mini camp. 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.320 I don't like my odds at this pet okay. June thirteenth, 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.040 the day before the mandatory mini camp. Yes, indeed, And 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.279 Cliff Kingsbury says, by the way, he expects Kyler Murray 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:40.760 to be there, correct, Polly, he does so for me. 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:44.400 Once again, there's no doubt about Kyler Murray and his talent. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.800 There is no doubt whatsoever they are going to extend 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.960 him here. He is the future of the Arizona Cardinals. 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:55.480 I do want to see him continue to develop and grow. 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.320 You know, we had a chance to talk with Trace 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.599 McSorley earlier today ninety eight seven FM, did we not, 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:03.840 the third string quarterback, And one of the things he 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.400 said about Kyler is his ability to find guys in 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:11.880 space and zach Ertz's ability to use space and find openings. 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.480 And what do you think about the potential of those 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.920 two now that they have a full off season, because 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.040 we remember zach Ertz arrived in a trade and they 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:20.640 had to ramp things up in a hurry in the 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.600 middle of his season. When we talk about potential. We 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.600 always talk about Kyler to d hop or Kyler d 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.680 aj Green and now Hollywood Brown obviously, but what about 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:33.240 Kyler to zach Ertz. Yeah, no, PAULI it's a great question. 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.400 I think zach Ertz is going to have a massive year. 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.679 And one of the big reasons why is in week seven, 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.640 DeAndre Hopkins is going to come back. It's going to 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.840 be Marquis Brown and DeAndre Hopkins on the outside for 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.760 all we know. Listen, Rondelmore, that is a question mark 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:54.360 right now, Rondelmore, will he take that step forward? Will 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.440 he become the vertical threat that I was hoping he 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.400 was going to be able to do last year. I 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:03.400 don't know. That remains to be seen. He's got a 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.640 prove it mentality right now, and I would love to 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.600 see him go out there and get the opportunity to 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:13.880 prove it. Because listen, if you've got guys that are 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.320 on the outside, you're not going to be able to 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.720 double a zach Ertz. You're not going to be able 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:22.440 to do it. Paul. If you're doubling Marquis Hollywood Brown 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:26.320 and you're bracketing DeAndre Hopkins on the other side, or 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.400 Rondel Moore for that matter. On the other side, guess 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.280 who's one on one in the middle, you know, and 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.800 I like the odds of zach ERTs winning one on one. Well, 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:37.960 think about it. It It was the Houston game where zach 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.000 Ertz had to catch across the middle, turned it up 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.720 the far sideline and went a good thirty yards to six. Right. 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.440 That tell me, if I'm wrong, was a byproduct of 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.280 all the attention being paid to DeAndre Hopkins, and he 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.760 just found a massive opening in the middle of the 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.199 third level of the defense and then he housed it 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.839 so and then to hear zach Ertz tell Dave Pash 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.000 also that there might be some confused durations where he's 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.120 out at the X and he's way wide, which he 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.400 did for Doug Peterson once upon a time in Philly. 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:09.080 That's intriguing if they get creative minus de hop Yeah, no, 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.360 it is, Polly. And there are so many weapons on 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.240 this offense right now. I mean it. I was thinking 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.439 about this the other day. You and I were talking 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:20.240 about it today, Polly. But when you think of nuke, 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:23.600 you think of DeAndre Hopkins. And again I realized he's 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.640 gonna miss the first six games of the season. Yet 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.000 when he comes back, that means he's gonna play in 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:32.800 eleven Lord Willing, He's gonna play in eleven, Polly, and 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.760 then of course you got Marquis Hollywood Brown, Rondale Moore. 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.319 We all expect him to take that step forward. A 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.280 j Green, a guy we talked about a guy that 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:45.040 had almost nine hundred yards receiving last year and he 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:48.840 was disappointed he didn't get a thousand yards receiving last year. 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:51.120 He felt like he left that on the field. As 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.720 a matter of fact, you got James Connor, you got 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:57.520 Kyler Murray, Hello, Kyler Murray. And then all of a sudden, 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:01.559 you're gonna tell me you got zach Ertz as well, Paulvis. 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:05.560 This offense is absolutely stacked. It's got everything that it 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.520 needs to be one of the best offenses in the league. 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.400 But I don't want to hear about it. I don't 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.600 want to. You know what, go prove it, Just go 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.760 do it. That's what I want. That's the mentality I 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.800 want to see them adopt. JJ Watt coming off the 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.360 injury last year, he has been a mainstay at the 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:24.760 Cardinals headquarters. What Ever, since Day three of the off season. 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.439 I mean, he has been there almost every single day, 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.480 and he was explaining the media why it's important to 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.560 him now. He pointed out to start that there are 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:34.560 a number of players, not just Kyler, a number of 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.360 players not with the card not only the Cardinals, but 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:40.000 around the NFL who have not been attending voluntary the 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:44.400 offseason sessions. And so with that in mind, here's what 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.920 JJ Watt had to say being here with the guys 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.679 at OTAs. I think that being on the field is 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.840 extremely valuable because I don't think you can get better 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:56.199 at football without playing football. Taking advantage of every single opportunity, 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.600 taking advantage of every rep, all the individual drills and everything. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.120 Camaraderie and getting the guys together I think for me 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:05.600 personally is very big. And I think that obviously we 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.079 have a new dealne coach this year as well, so 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:08.880 making sure that we're on the same page and making 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.560 sure that we're we all know what the expectation is 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.680 and we all set the culture that we want to set. Yeah, 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.000 Matt Burke, the new defensive line coach. It was interesting 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.720 to hear him, you know, getting after the guys early 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:21.959 in OTAs this week, yelling at him get the weekend 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.680 audio and then putting him through drills, and and like 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.040 we talked about earlier, JJ Watt is the first guy 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.680 up in every drill, as you might expect a three 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:33.360 time NFL Defensive Player of the Year. He's just a 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.640 guy who sets the culture on the defensive side, not 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.640 unlike how James Conner sets the culture and the physicality 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:42.440 on the assee offensive side. And then there's jj Watt 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.720 and what he does on the social media side. Did 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.840 you see his shout out on video where he captured 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.800 Rondale Moore and him near the Cardinals weight room roll 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:57.520 that everybody's Rondale's birthday. I'm sure you say that birthday 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.720 to Rondale. We're just having all this time for our baby. 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.920 And they said it's bigger than him already tell more, Oh, 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:09.040 Mike Bolton, he didn't want any anymore. That video on 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.839 social media from jj Watt, I mean, come on now, 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.120 slam there dominion of Americans like Rondale Moore. I thought 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.640 those a little un called for. Albeit entertaining, No, you 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.839 know what, it was entertaining, And that's the one thing 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.199 JJ Watt understands. He knows how to entertain. But then 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.520 I love the fact he was talking about focusing on 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:29.360 the process. That's what when you hear him say every day, 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.800 the opportunity that you have on every rep to get better, 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.360 to go through it and do it with intent. Man, 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.959 he's telling you right now to focus on the process, 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.640 not the end result. Focus on the process, and you 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.920 have a chance of actually getting to the end result 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:50.439 if you do that. Day Pash Podcasts recently featured JJ Watt, 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:54.079 most recently zach Ertz. As we mentioned, wherever your podcast, 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:57.280 find the Day Pash podcast or on Twitter via at pashpod. 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.000 All right, do we all have questions when it comes 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.800 to generating a pass rush? You bet. Let's talk to 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:06.440 one of the coaches working on the answers, Charlie Boland, 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.920 outside linebackers coach. Next, when we return the Big Red 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:13.680 Rage presented by Satan Ford and Gilbert, we are Satan 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:27.440 four garapolo three steps, drop steps up, gets hit and 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.800 sack back at about the thirteen yard line by Marcus Golden. 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:36.040 When you need a play forty four is there? Star 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:40.600 Barkin get the Robinson running right and met by Cannard 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.440 who got off a block and stuff the play, hands 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.520 it off nowhere to run between the tackles. Devon Knard 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:50.920 back to throw Flacco sacked by Gardck. Oh my goodness, 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.640 what a move by Dennis Gardak. The barbarian Flacco in 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:59.000 the pocket, gonna get hit and sacked. Dennis Gardak got 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.480 him again. Dennis Garda got up and did a little 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:07.240 barbarian dance around the fire. I'll pick up where Dave 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:11.400 Passion Ron Wilfully left off there. Those three names all 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.760 have one thing in common at least, and I'm not 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:17.440 just talking about the position. Actually, those three names and 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.040 their position coach all have one thing in common, and 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:25.520 that is the super extra energy that everyone feeds off. Up. Okay, 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:29.480 we're talking Dennis Gardeck, Marcus Golden, Devon Kanard, and Charlie Bullen, 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.400 the outside linebackers coach who joins us now on the 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.920 big red rage. Charlie, how are you doing? You worked 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.640 us in between meetings? Good? Great? You know you're running 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.000 the up tempo as an assistant coach here, durn OTAs 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:43.920 you know, how's everything going right now? In mid June? 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.400 Everything is good. This is a good time of year, 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.320 you know, back out there with the guys. It feels 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:52.320 good after a couple shortened off seasons for various reasons 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.400 over the last two years to finally get back out 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.760 and do what we love, play ball. There's no you know, 0:14:57.800 --> 0:14:59.840 there's no stress who wins and loss yet. So we're 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:03.280 just as we like to say, we're crafting our time 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.240 of year to get better, get back in the lab, 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.240 as we like to say, and focus on fundamentals. So 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.560 it's all ball and it's all good. Can guys really 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.360 get better in OTAs in your opinion, and of course 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.680 I mean mentally you can understand the offense better, the 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:22.400 defense better, or covering a kickoff mentally you can understand 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.960 all a bit better. But can you actually get better 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.320 as a football player, Yeah, for sure in my opinion. Absolutely. 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:32.280 You know, it's the it's all about repetitions, and you 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.760 know this time year, wherever they come, whether they come 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.000 in a non competitive environment in individual drills or a 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:42.200 competitive environment seven on seven team walk throughs, this time year, 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.920 in my opinion, it's all about repetition. So guys getting 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:48.640 them now we'll pay off in the season. And you know, 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:52.080 it's funny, there's there's things that happen in practice that 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.840 we're looking at right now. We're talking about we're reflecting 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.080 on and they happened last year in games, you know, 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.200 and as a group and a coach and players, we 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.320 pointed out to each each other, Hey, this is no 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.880 different than week you know whatever against this particular opponent. 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.040 Here it is again in June, and it's the same situation. 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.360 We're getting the same training. So it's another shot on goal. 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.480 And you know, I always say it's amazing as much 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:16.200 football as you know, some of these you know players 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:20.840 have played. There's yourself included, Wolf, long career in the NFL. Right, 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:25.360 there's no chance you've defensive perspective. There's no chance you 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:29.480 fit every run or defended every pass concept in the 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.280 NFL versus every play call you have in your defensive scheme. 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.680 So every every opportunity is an opportunity to get a 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.440 shot on goal, as I say, And that's where we're 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.840 at this time year. So yes, Wolf, for sure I 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.320 can approve it. Coach outside Linebackers coach Charlie Bulling our 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.800 guest in the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.240 and Gilbert Well. As J. J. Watts said the other day, 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.120 you can't get better at football without playing football, without 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:55.560 practicing football, and I'm guessing, Paul pencil Neck over here, 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:59.400 I'm just merely guessing that if, for example, you need 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.560 to develop a counter move as a pass rusher, now 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.640 is the time. This is where it comes in, right, Yes, 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.080 for sure, and you know something of that too, you know, 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.280 before you get to the counter move, you know, this 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.360 is a time where you're where you can train perfect 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:16.639 muscle memory. So we're out there, you know, going through it, 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:20.120 working our fundamentals, working our pass rush moves. And then 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:23.560 when you get sped up in competitive environments, you either 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.399 got to hit it quicker or get into your move quicker, 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:28.200 or you end up getting into your pass rush moveing 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.720 from in an unorthodox way that you don't necessarily train. 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.480 But it's the it's the reps right now in the 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.200 training of the move that gets you ready to react 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.680 at that particular time. It could be a counter move 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:42.520 or that type of thing, but for sure, at least 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.800 we're training the baseline fundamentals, you know, so that when 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.600 we get sped up in competitive situations where we're ready 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.439 to roll with that muscle memory. Charlie, what does not 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.159 having Chandler Jones out of the field, What is that like, 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:58.520 and what does that do? And how do you replace him? Yeah? 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.480 Thing for starters, you can just you can't replace him, um, 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.800 you know, at least for a long period of time, 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:09.160 franchise sack leader, you know, great shot at the Hall 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:11.200 of Fame. You can't replace the guy like that off 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.520 the jump. You know, love chan, miss him dearly, wish 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.200 him the best, you know, And it's a great opportunity 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.840 for our group to step up and take these steps, 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.960 you know, to replacing that production as best we can. 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.159 You know, when Marcus is a great rusher who's produced 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.720 a lot of years, so we expect, you know, him 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.960 to pick up right where he left off last year. 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.119 And you know, to to replace Chandler's production. It may 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.560 be by committee, you know, or you know, somebody may 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.840 step up in a big way, you know, and uh, 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:43.439 that's where we're at, you know, to be, you know, 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.560 And we lost Chandler in twenty twenty and kind of 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.320 we're in the right. He had one sack in that 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.399 season and you guys still finished number five in socks 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.840 per attempt. Yes, you know, so that was kind of 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:56.879 a similar you know, you know deal. We had to 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.360 have other guys step up Hassan Reddick had his breakout 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:03.679 first year, Dennis Gardak had his breakout years. So we 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:06.040 may have to piece it together, you know, you can't. 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.479 You can't replace that production from a great player like him. 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.280 And if we do, we at least feel comfortable that 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:12.679 we've been there before. You know, it's amazing. I just 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:15.680 saw this stat again that season after Chandler Jones went 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:17.760 down early in the game against the Jets Week five. 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.600 The Cardinals ended up with an NFL high eighteen players 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.439 who had at least one sack in two twenty and 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:30.280 an NFL leading dozen players who had two or more sacks. Yeah, 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.399 so yeah, what do you attribute to that too? And 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.919 to what degree can the Cardinals replicate that? Well? Scheme 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.720 for sure. I mean, you know, um, this scheme going 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:43.840 back to you know, um advances time in Denver, the 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:46.040 there have been guys that have produced in this scheme 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.920 and we always you know, some characteristics. We look for 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:52.600 tough guys who can just attack off the ball, you know, 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:54.679 and at the outside back of position. Those have been 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:58.240 two traits that have translated to production, you know. And 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:00.640 what's been really kind of cool, you know, having been 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:02.840 the coach of this group the last two years is 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:06.400 even just body type wise. You take Chandlers six to five, 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.480 you know about two sixty, all the way down to Dennis, 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:13.560 you know who six feet two hundred thirty two thirty five, 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:15.840 and all the way in between, from Marcus to Hassan. 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:20.000 You know, different body types, different skill sets have produced 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:23.080 in this scheme, and the common denominators have been tough 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:28.120 guys who just attack. The pressure. Packages are really complex 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:33.199 here for this team. You have to have smart guys 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.920 as well, because you have a tendency I think defensively 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:41.000 of bringing five guys a lot. You just don't know 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:44.800 which five are coming. Does that make sense? Yeah? Yeah, no, 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:48.480 you definitely you definitely have to be smart to play 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:51.520 in this defense. You know so obviously toughness is the 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:53.320 first component, but you also have to be able to 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:58.399 process and remember your defensive calls and execute because like 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:01.600 you said, it is complex. How about seven sacks in 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:05.200 ninety three defensive snaps for a healthy Dennis guard at 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:09.200 unbelievable in two twenty What I mean in fact, that 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:12.360 game where he got injured against Philadelphia, that was week fifteen, 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:15.080