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Speaker 1: The type of players that we're looking for are players

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Speaker 1: into a Monday edition of Texans All Acts. Says from

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Speaker 1: the Honday Texans Radio studio, John Harris alongside Mark Vanamer.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully everyone had a great holiday weekend. Got away for

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Speaker 1: did all that and got that taken care of Mark.

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Speaker 1: You know what I did Sunday night? What did you do?

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Speaker 1: Sunday night? I went and saw the movie Air the

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Speaker 1: Nike movie. Have you seen it? Matt Damon, Ben Affleck,

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Speaker 1: I have not seen it. I heard it was x

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Speaker 1: It is very very good. I feel like they casted

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Speaker 1: that I thought it did a really good piled Night.

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Speaker 1: But Violet Avis as Lauras Jordans, I mean, she is

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Speaker 1: absolutely outstanding. It so worthy of the theater this movie. Ye. Now,

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Speaker 1: when you see a promo, do you think that's a

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Speaker 1: Netflix special, right, No, it's a theater movie. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a good theater movie. My son enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: He didn't really know much of the story. He just

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Speaker 1: knew about the air Jordan who he's a Nike and

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Speaker 1: so seeing that story. But going back to nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: cool Converse, Converse, the shoe world back then, Yep, Converse

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Speaker 1: uh sneaker market share. Converse had fifty eight percent of

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Speaker 1: That's it, And so I don't want to give too

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Speaker 1: know that he eventually goes with Nike. Duh. But in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and three, Nike block Converse. That is cool,

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Speaker 1: playing great on defense and whatever else. Nick adds to

423
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Speaker 1: the draft and these free agent acquisitions that they just

424
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Speaker 1: got in the trade with Mason and all of that,

425
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Speaker 1: and bam, they're actually winning at least as much as

426
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Speaker 1: they're losing, if not more, and contending for the AFC

427
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Speaker 1: South title. Sign me up for the Hey, let me

428
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Speaker 1: throw another monkey wrench in there to really confuse people too,

429
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Speaker 1: because I guarantee you if they take Will Anderson Junior

430
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Speaker 1: at two, there will be this what do we can

431
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Speaker 1: do at quarterback? Then they draft handed Hooker at twelve,

432
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Speaker 1: and then before the night's over, what do they do?

433
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Speaker 1: They trade back up into the first round because they

434
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Speaker 1: started running back from the University of Texas is available,

435
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Speaker 1: and they do that to go for it. So it's

436
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Speaker 1: Will Anderson Junior handed Hooker at twelve, and they trade

437
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Speaker 1: back into the first round from thirty three to get

438
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Speaker 1: Bijan Robinson. All right, how will you feel if you

439
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Speaker 1: drive home with that? I'll feel I'll feel really good

440
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Speaker 1: about that. Actually, And here's the thing. There's winning Thursday

441
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Speaker 1: night of the draft, and there's winning in September, October, November,

442
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Speaker 1: so I know there's winning draft weekend and pleasing everybody

443
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: with hype and great feelings, and then there's what happens

444
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Speaker 1: on the field, and sometimes they're the same thing, but

445
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: sometimes they're not. As we all know. So if you

446
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Speaker 1: traded back into the first round or just sat there

447
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: Friday night, the first pick that the Texans half second

448
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Speaker 1: of the evening, thirty third overall, because there's no Miami

449
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Speaker 1: pick in the first round, right, so the second pick

450
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Speaker 1: on Friday night, Jalen Hiatt, that's what I have in

451
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Speaker 1: my mock. I had Jalen Hiaht with what we just

452
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Speaker 1: talked about. Yeah, so you go, if you you have

453
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Speaker 1: to be choiced for this, you get Hitted Hooker and

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Speaker 1: Jalen High. I mean that's kind Yeah, that's a nice

455
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Speaker 1: little combo, right each other. Listen. Then E J. Perry

456
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Speaker 1: starts twelve games. There will be panic the time. Okay,

457
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Speaker 1: there's ten minutes tweet picks, ten picks. It's one hundred

458
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Speaker 1: and fifty minutes. A little over, it's about two hours plus.

459
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Speaker 1: It will be two hours of panic. Oh yeah at

460
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Speaker 1: that draft part. Oh my gosh, it's gonna be wild.

461
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Speaker 1: It's waiting for pick number twelve. It's gonna be great.

462
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Speaker 1: The drama. Okay, let me okay, Rich Okay, so consider

463
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Speaker 1: what I consider what I just threw at you. I

464
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Speaker 1: like these scenarios. Now, okay, let me throw you. Let

465
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Speaker 1: me throw you a massive curveball. All right, I'm gonna

466
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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna work. I think we'll work up.

467
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Speaker 1: Let's say that. Let's say that at thirty three, they

468
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Speaker 1: they do what we talked about. Yea, they move up

469
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Speaker 1: and they go get be Jean Robinson. But at number

470
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Speaker 1: twelve they get Miles Murphy because at number two they've

471
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Speaker 1: gotten Anthony Richardson quarterback Florida. So you go to Anthony

472
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Speaker 1: Richardson twelve, Miles Murphy from Otta Clemson, and then you

473
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Speaker 1: trade back up and you get be Jean Robinson. How

474
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Speaker 1: will you be driving home that night? Will you be

475
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Speaker 1: driving high on a cloud? One hundred and ten down

476
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Speaker 1: Highway fifty nine. Here's what's gonna be nervous about. What's

477
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Speaker 1: gonna happen? Because at number four the Cults took c

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Speaker 1: J strout right, and you know, you know that's the

479
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Speaker 1: other thing. Who are our foes in the division going

480
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Speaker 1: to take? Yeah? How will you feel? Tennessee goes to three,

481
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Speaker 1: not good and they pick up, Well, if they pick

482
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Speaker 1: will Levis. Will Levis is kind of an unsexy pick,

483
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Speaker 1: but he might turn out to be the best player

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Speaker 1: at quarterback. Funny if you went to Tennessee. My comp

485
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Speaker 1: for will Levis is the Tennessee Titans quarterback room of

486
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Speaker 1: Malik Willison, Ryan Daniel. That was my cop back in May.

487
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Speaker 1: That was my comp for will Levis. So we'll see

488
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Speaker 1: if if any of that comes to fruition. Speaking of fruition,

489
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Speaker 1: coming up next, Drew Doherty had a chance to catch

490
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Speaker 1: up with Tabier Thomas. Yes he's coming back and the

491
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Speaker 1: two go one on one next right here in Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access, Lord Texans Radio is on the way. We

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Speaker 1: return to Texans All Excess. Welcome back to Monday edition

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Speaker 1: Texas All Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I'm

495
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Speaker 1: your host, John Harris. Glad to be with you this evening.

496
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Speaker 1: As we're about to bring in Michael Pale Drew Doherty,

497
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 1: we had a chance to catch up with one of

498
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Speaker 1: the most valuable defenders team has had the last couple

499
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 1: of years, Tavier Thomas, who does it all on special teams.

500
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: You've seen him play the nickel out there at defensive back.

501
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 1: He's done all kinds of stuff for this team, and

502
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: Drew had a chance to catch up with him at

503
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Speaker 1: an event and talk about what it's like coming back

504
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Speaker 1: to the Texans, MKO, Ryans, etc. Tab Drew now Tavier

505
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Speaker 1: Thomas is the guy defensive back to the Houston Texans.

506
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Speaker 1: Here at a Kroger. You just took part in a

507
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Speaker 1: food hunger event. It's all part of the Hunt against Hunger.

508
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Speaker 1: How much fun did you have because you were doing

509
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Speaker 1: a scavenger hunt but you weren't just with the winning team,

510
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: which was yours. Oh yeah, yeah, we came in first,

511
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, We was gonna win anyway. Sorry,

512
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: but it was fun. It was a lot of fun

513
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Speaker 1: just to know that the kid, Well, I didn't really

514
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Speaker 1: do anything. The kids will find everything. I'll just pushing

515
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Speaker 1: Toro around. But we came in first. And then I

516
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: went back and helping a lot of other teams because

517
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Speaker 1: my teammates were showing me where everything was. So I

518
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Speaker 1: was helping them guys out. And before all that, you

519
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: were talking with the kids, and you made a really

520
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: good point. You know, there's a lot of folks out

521
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,959
Speaker 1: there that we don't know about that we don't realize

522
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: that the Houston Food Bank is helping out on a

523
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: daily basis. Yeah, that's crazy, Like just to know that

524
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: everything that they're doing, it's amazing all these families that

525
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: they're helping. Like we come out with our busy days

526
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: and try to help as many fans we can, but

527
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: they're doing a lot, a lot more and that's a

528
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Speaker 1: blessing and I'm just happy I'm able to help. It

529
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: was such a fun event. It's fun to see evolved

530
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Speaker 1: and on the football field. I know you've been working

531
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Speaker 1: out with a lot of the guys. You guys have

532
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Speaker 1: been around the building. It gets official on Tuesday with

533
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Speaker 1: offseason conditioning. But what have you specifically worked on this

534
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: off season football wise? Really just getting conditioned. Once you're

535
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: in condition, you're never gonna be too in condition to

536
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 1: get to training camp or whatnot. But if you just

537
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: in tiptop shape, everything goes. You should be able to

538
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Speaker 1: handle a while being in NFL. So I'm just trying

539
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: to stay in tiptop shape, keep my body healthy, and

540
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Speaker 1: I'm ready for Tuesday to come. I'm ready to get

541
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Speaker 1: around my teammates and all my coaches. Yeah, I bet

542
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: you are. Is that tougher as it easier considering you

543
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: were out in September and out in October. Do you

544
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: feel like your old self? You know, maybe at this

545
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: point you last year or two years ago. Oh yeah,

546
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Speaker 1: I'm back. I'm one hundred percent. I'm ready to go

547
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Speaker 1: the team. They believe in me and brought me back,

548
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Speaker 1: So I'm happy that I'm back and I'm ready to

549
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Speaker 1: get this thing going. I'm ready to win. I know

550
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: you always had confidence, but was it even bolstered a

551
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: bit more by coming back week nine? You play a

552
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: little bit, play a little bit more the next game,

553
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: and then you pretty much get fifty percent of the

554
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: snaps the rest of the way you're out there starting.

555
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was great. It was great. They got

556
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: me back in slow, slow pace. But when I did

557
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: get back in, I knew I had the ball out

558
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: of because it was my lad year on my contract,

559
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: so everyone's going to be looking at that. So I

560
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: try to go out and play as hard as I

561
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: can and try to get wins for the team. And

562
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: that's why I'm gonna continue to do. You just brought

563
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: it up. How nice is it to be back here

564
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: in Houston? Oh? It's great. I don't have to move.

565
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,719
Speaker 1: I don't have to sail my home, none of that

566
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: crazy stuff. So I'm happy to be back. I'm just

567
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: ready to win. I just want to win. Yeah. And

568
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: with that in mind, what do you think of the

569
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Speaker 1: new head coach and what do you think this defense

570
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: is going to be? Your? Will this defense be different

571
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: in twenty three? I feel like he's gonna let us

572
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: just fly around and play football. Feel like he's a

573
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: great coach because he hadn't been in our shoes like

574
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: a lot of love you to death, but Demiko, he's

575
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: been in our shoes and he knows what we need

576
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: to do, what we don't need to do because he

577
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: was that same guy. So I'm looking forward to being

578
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: there with him. Your back, Deserts back, Stephen Nelson, Derek Stingley, Petree,

579
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: you know you got you got a piece in Jimmy Ward,

580
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: a seasoned secondary. When you say how much is that

581
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: going to help things out? You think, well, it's gonna

582
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Speaker 1: help out a lot. They brought in, what you said,

583
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Ward and the linebackers that they did bring in,

584
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Speaker 1: I feel like those guys are gonna get us over

585
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: to hump and if we continue to just do everything

586
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: that Demiko tells us if we all just play together,

587
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: I'll say that we all just play together, play to

588
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: everybody's strengths, and help each other out. I feel like

589
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 1: we're gonna be one of the best secondaries in the NFL.

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00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: All right, to have your last question. Best Easter candy

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Speaker 1: is recess because I'm about to give me something. There

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Speaker 1: you go, Tavir Thomas Defensive. Back to the Houston, Texas

593
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Speaker 1: thanks so much of the time. Happy Easter, my friend. Man,

594
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: you kidd me. You gotta grab the reces for sure.

595
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: I gotta do my rankings of candy because Rec's definitely

596
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: got to be top five, very addictive. But my sweets

597
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: are all over the place. I mean all over the place.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of sweet, Jordan Addison is sweet with a capital sweet.

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Speaker 1: The USC wideout could be a Texan? Might he be

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Speaker 1: a Texan? Well, we're gonna learn a little bit more

601
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Speaker 1: about the USC receiver next right here on Texans All Access,

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Speaker 1: Chicksons Radio continues in a moment, Chicksons Radio is back. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: we got one final segment of this edition of Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access from Monday, Texans three US. Do you I'm

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Speaker 1: your host John Harris football on a sideline reporters that

606
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Speaker 1: said in the last segment, it can't wait site you

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Speaker 1: guys tomorrow coming in for conditioning. First day of school

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Speaker 1: if you want to look got it that way, or

609
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: it's the first day back at school after a very

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Speaker 1: long spring break. I don't know, depending on how you

611
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Speaker 1: look at it. Either way, it's a good thing. Damiko

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Speaker 1: Ryans will meet with the press tomorrow, so that's gonna

613
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Speaker 1: be fun. Press media, how you're gonna call it? Now?

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Speaker 1: A player who could eventually become a text and it's

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Speaker 1: Jordan Addison wide receiver. Blitnikoff Award winner at twenty one

616
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Speaker 1: went out to USC at twenty two. I actually thought

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Speaker 1: there are some things he showed in twenty two that

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Speaker 1: helped him a little bit more. He played a little

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Speaker 1: bit more on the perimeter, so he's able to show

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Speaker 1: some of those perimeter route running skills that he's got.

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Speaker 1: He is sudden, he is dynamic, He's just not very big.

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Speaker 1: Donovan James of Trojan Wire on the USA Today has

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Speaker 1: been covering him for a while and DPC had a

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Speaker 1: chance to catch up with him to find out all

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Speaker 1: about Jordan Addison wide receiver USC joining US Today if

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Speaker 1: Donovan James. He covers USC sports for USA Today's Trojan's Wire.

627
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Speaker 1: He's also the host of the Sports Done and Friends

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Speaker 1: pod cast Down and thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We want to talk all about USC prospect wide receiver

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Speaker 1: Jordan Addison. So I don't know if you've seen the

631
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Speaker 1: mock drafts, but he's been pretty popular among mock draft

632
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Speaker 1: experts saying that the Texans may take him. Yeah, Jordan

633
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Speaker 1: Addison's a really good prospect. Obviously, last year, well year

634
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: before last win in the blind the Cuff Award for

635
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: pitt Can you pick it at Pittsburgh? And then obviously

636
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: the stats dropped off a little bit, but with the

637
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: USC's depth that wide receiver, and I mean obviously he

638
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: helped Caleb Williams win the Hisman Trophy. You know, he's

639
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: a little banged up, kind of frail then frame a

640
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: little bit, but all in all he's still to me,

641
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: the best route runner and a wide receiver. Claise that's

642
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: not very deep, he stands out to me. I'm Jackson

643
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: and Jacoba of course stands out to me. But Jordan

644
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: Addison is the best route runner and has some of

645
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: the best hands, especially catching the deep ball, which wherever

646
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: they have at quarterback definitely get helped out by Jordan

647
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: Addison day one. He's a guy that can come in

648
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: right away and catching balls sixty seventy passes. I think

649
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: his rookie year, it's tremendous. I mean, I think the

650
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: one thing I read over and over around him is

651
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: his speed and route running that those are the traits

652
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: that really separate him from some of the other wide receivers.

653
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: Even during USC's rainy prote he was running some pretty

654
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: crisp routes. Where do you think he fits in best

655
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: in an NFL offense. I think a West coastar offense

656
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: kind of fits him better, just because he reminds me

657
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: a lot of Davante Smith, and I'm sure you'll hear

658
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: a lot of that doing the process or yea process.

659
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: He reminds me a lot of him. But this is

660
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: a guy, like I said, that could for him to

661
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: be kind of a slender guy who'll run across the

662
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: middle for you. But he's a little better in short

663
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: routes plants and quick burst and deep down field too.

664
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: I think he's really good. I think he had some

665
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: concentration issues early on in his career, but for the

666
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: most part, he can. I mean, he can just do everything.

667
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: Obviously not the best blocker in the world of being

668
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: kind of some other guy, but he's not a speezer.

669
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: Like his combine scores or testing wasn't off the charts,

670
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: but that's not really him. He's a guy that's just

671
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: gonna catch you the ball, kind of come in every

672
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: day and just grind and be a team leader too.

673
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: I think that's something he did in the offseason was

674
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: kind of put all the receivers together with Brendan Rice

675
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: and all those guys, CJ. Williams and Caleb Williams too,

676
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: getting those guys together. So he's gonna be leaving in

677
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: the locker room, which I think the Texans need. And

678
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: a guy that can do a little bit of everything.

679
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: His route tree is just and he can run every route.

680
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: So like I said, I gotta girl across the middle

681
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: and catch the ball like Andre Johnson or somebody like that.

682
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: He's not a big boy, but he can do a

683
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: little bit everything for you. So that's gonna be a

684
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: good thing for the Texans to have coming up. And

685
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: I think they need a you know, a lot of

686
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: that with Damika Ryan's and Bobby Slow a kind of

687
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: some younger coaches coming in they need some leadership. Yeah,

688
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: you've mentioned his measurables a few times five eleven, one,

689
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: seventy three. He is he is kind of slight, and

690
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: that might be one of the negatives about him in

691
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: this as a draft prospect. I guess just for people

692
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: that care about size and stuff like that. But even

693
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: in his final seven games at USC, his production TV

694
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: production wasn't super high. Only two touchdowns in the final

695
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: seven games, even though he was catching passes from Caleb

696
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 1: william So how concerned should teams be with his lack

697
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,959
Speaker 1: of production and size? I think the productions just USC

698
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: was so deep at wide receiver. I mean you're looking

699
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: at Mario Williams and Brendan Rice, like I said, and

700
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: Poege Washington called four, I mean some of them. They

701
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: have so many receivers at USC. A couple of them

702
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: transferred and they were four or five stars. Michael Jackson

703
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: was there, and they got some guys coming in that

704
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: are really good too. But I don't I'm not really

705
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: worried about the production. Obviously, Kayleb Williams was also running

706
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: the ball a little bit more too, So that's something

707
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: that you know, he ran the ball a little bit

708
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: more at the end of the season, and they spread

709
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: it out. That's just how the offense is. Like if

710
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: you looked at Lincoln Raley's offenses from the past, that's

711
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: just how they do. They spread it out. They run

712
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: a lot of four or five wides. Travis Dye was

713
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: getting the ball out more. They were trying to run

714
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: the ball more before he got hurt. So I'm not

715
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: worried about the production. I don't think that's on him.

716
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: And his production was so high and off the charts

717
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: of this season before, Like I knew he wasn't gonna

718
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: match that those stats. I mean, Kenny Pickett, that was

719
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: his guy. That's really all they had. It was Kenny

720
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: Pickett and Jordan Addison, So I figured his stats would

721
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: drop off and the measurables. Are not worried about either.

722
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: Like I mean, he could get hurt a little bit

723
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: more so, but like I said, DeVante Smith seems like

724
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: he's been fine. And they remind me a lot of

725
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: each other. Davante was insane when in the Heisman his

726
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: year with Mac Jones and all those guys. He's not

727
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: quite that good, but he's right there. He could be

728
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: a star wide receiver. He'll never be a top five,

729
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: top ten receiver really, but he'll always be in that

730
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty range and be he'll make a couple

731
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: of Pro Bowls on the right squad. And with this team,

732
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: the Texans, I mean, they don't have a lot of receivers,

733
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: so I mean he could definitely help them out and

734
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: be the guy right now for them. Yeah, I think

735
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: Texans fans would be excited about seeing another wide receiver

736
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: drafted this year. All right, what about I know he's

737
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: only played for USC for one season and you mentioned

738
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: he had a phenomenal twenty twenty one campaign, But just

739
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: in your short time covering him, what's the most memorable

740
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: game or moment of Jordan Addison's that you've covered? Honestly,

741
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: kind of like the first game, even though it was

742
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: against a right the way he just played that game

743
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: and him and Caleb just had it down pack first

744
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: game Game one. I know it is versus a lesser opponent,

745
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: but that game kind of stood out to me. But

746
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: that was a game that to me just stood out

747
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: because he can come in right away with kind of

748
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: a shorter offseason, I feel like because a lot of

749
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: these kids are doing a lot more that like off

750
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: the field, they don't have as much time to practice,

751
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: I feel like, and they're not getting together as much.

752
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: But he was able to do that and I think

753
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: that showed in that game. And the UCLA game obviously

754
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: was the best game of the season. Sorry, but eleven catches,

755
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy yards I think two touchdown or

756
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: no one touchdown. Sorry, but the average sixteen yards per catch,

757
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,959
Speaker 1: and that's something that if you look at the UCLA tape,

758
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: they have a pretty good secondary and they spied on

759
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: him and did a lot of things on him, but

760
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: he still was able to catch the ball and him

761
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: averaging about fifteen sixteen seventeen yards per catch is something

762
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna see at the next level two. I think

763
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: he can get put that those numbers up because he

764
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: can really get the yack yards after catch and make plays.

765
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: And there's some on Twitter just looking at him and

766
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: scouting him, and yeah, that's the most impressive game he

767
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: had as the USC children for sure, and that, like

768
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: I said, that Rice game was pretty good too. Well.

769
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: He's Scott an nil deal with United United's got a

770
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: hub in Houston. It just spits a little too perfectly.

771
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: But obviously he's got a lot of charisma. So what's

772
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: his personality like off the field. Jordan's He's kind of

773
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: he's he does have a lot of charisma, but he

774
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: kind of is quiet a little bit like he's not

775
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: like a raw row guy. He leaves by example more so,

776
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: but guys follow him. Him and Caleb just had a

777
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: really good relationship and I think, like I said that,

778
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: and then them, like I said them going and throwing

779
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: with each other, Gary, Brian and Troll. There's still I

780
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: think the nine or ten receivers went out there and

781
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: with Miller Moss the backup quarterback and Kayley Williams. Having

782
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: those guys get together and the offseason was was huge.

783
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: And Lincoln Riley loves him, and Nardoozy, his old coach

784
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: loves him. His high school coaches love him, and he

785
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: does have a lot of charisma. He'll be good for

786
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: the Texans and what they're trying to do. I know

787
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: Damika Ryan's has a pretty big personality as well, so

788
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: he'll like that. But he's not gonna be like Antonio Brown.

789
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: No one, Antonio Brown, I guess, but it won't be

790
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: that type of guy. He's not like a divo wide

791
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: receiver though, like Odell Beckham or like whoever he want

792
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: to say is the receiver. He's just gonna come in

793
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: and work. He's not as quiet as Avante Smith. That

794
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: guy is not much personality, even though I like him

795
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: as a receiver. But yeah, he got some personality to him,

796
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: but he's not too much, not nothing too over the

797
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: top four receivers, right the just the right amount of

798
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: charisma wide receiver? All right? What about other prospects from

799
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: USC who are some other players? And maybe watch out

800
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: four in this year's draft? So I like still in

801
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: before the show. Andrew Vorhees is one of my favorite prospects. Now.

802
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: He went down with the torn ACL at the combine,

803
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: but he was still able to be one of the

804
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: strongest people at the combine with his UH bench fresh numbers,

805
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: the bench frest numbers that a production score is really good.

806
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: I think he was third among guards. He's played tackle,

807
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: he's played center, he's played guard. He's gonna be a

808
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: tackle at the next level with NFL. Though he played

809
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: forty five he started forty five different games, played in

810
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: fifty five six years senior played for five years at USC.

811
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: Is so much leadership and he's one of the he's

812
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: got like the fifth most starts I think in like

813
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: USC history, which is insane because it's like USC the

814
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: national powerhouse that year after year for decades, and Elijah

815
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: Vera Tucker is somebody he replays that the guard spot

816
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: was the first round pick. Now he's not quite that

817
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: good because it's athleticism, but technically like he technical like

818
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: with his hands and stuff at his feet, he's good

819
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: and he's strong, like his upper body strand he's really

820
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: smart too, and his versatility is great. He could be

821
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: a backup like right tackle for you probably don't want

822
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: him at left tackle, but I can definitely play center

823
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: a little bit and can play both guard positions. Just

824
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: a natural leader to high IQ and just somebody that's

825
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: gonna have a ten twelve thirteen year career as a

826
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: backup or a spot starter, and he could be a starter.

827
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: Maybe not day one with the torn acl but they

828
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: say he's getting back to normal and he's trying to

829
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: get fully healthy and he's not running yet, but he

830
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: should be back before preseason, so it'd be nice he's

831
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: a Day three guy probably. I would say he goes

832
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: like in the fourth round, but he could go a

833
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: little higher. I had him as a top one underd

834
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: pick before, and I just fear that with his age

835
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: and kind of the wear and tear on him for

836
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: the past five six years at USC now having a

837
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: torn acl this late might hurt him. Though there'd be

838
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: some guys that might pass them up, so I could

839
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: see him dropping, but I like him a lot. Another

840
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: guy that got injured his Travis Die coming from Oregon

841
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: and transferred to USC. Played one year really good running

842
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: back underside as well, just like George Addison about five nine,

843
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: one eighty five one ninety. But he coming off of

844
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: tournay sales as well, towards a sale before the packed

845
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: up championship versus Utah. But that's another guy to look

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Speaker 1: out for. He's a late day three maybe undrafted free

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Speaker 1: agent though there's a lot of running backs in this class,

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Speaker 1: but he's a good one. He can care. He reminds

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Speaker 1: me of about Chip Lindsay, who was drafted by the

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Speaker 1: Broncos a few years ago. He went to Colorado. Philip Lindsay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he used to play played for the Texans for a

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Speaker 1: minute as well. Yeah, yeah, so he reminds me of him.

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Speaker 1: They kind of even looked like but they reminding of

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Speaker 1: each other, kind of same. He doesn't have a production

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Speaker 1: like him, but playing at Oregon splitting carries and then

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Speaker 1: USC kind of a pass happy offense. He didn't get

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Speaker 1: the production, but you can't look at the stats. Maybe

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Speaker 1: if you look at the percentages more his volume of

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Speaker 1: carries and what he did with the ball when he

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Speaker 1: had it, he's up there with the top guys. He

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Speaker 1: was all packed twelve before he got hurt. So that's

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Speaker 1: two guys to look out for. Just a lot of

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Speaker 1: injuries for USC. For their prospects this year, well, it'll

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see where they land as well as

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Speaker 1: wide receiver Jordan Addison. Donovan appreciate the time and the insight.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us. Of course, no problem,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Now I'll do it.

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Speaker 1: That's the show. Appreciate Donovan dep first stopping by, of course,

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Speaker 1: but Managrew Doherty, Timier Thomas is going to see him

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Speaker 1: tomorrow and of course Mark Vandimir As we kicked around,

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Speaker 1: what does the OBJ signing mean to the Texans. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it had an impact. We'll talk about all of that,

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Speaker 1: and then some tomorrow will be right back here on

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