WEBVTT - Jay Pharoah 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.280 Chris Rock ain't like Chris Rock, ain't regular mane. He's 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:05.920 got non verbal learning this. Yeah, that's close to having 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:10.120 an aspert right, So technically, will Smith assaulted a special person? 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:12.440 You can't man, go ahead, up, you can't do that. 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:16.280 You can't as sault special people supposed to look at 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:20.600 them all my life? The grinding all my life, sacrifice, 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:24.560 hustle page, pricing, Want a slice, Got the Bronan dice 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.280 to swad all my life? I've been grinding all my life, 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:31.280 all my life? Then grinding all my life up, sacrifice, 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:35.200 hustle page, prison, Want a slice, Got the bron dice 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:37.519 to swath all my life? I've been grinding in all 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:42.800 my life. Hello, welcome to another edition of Club Sha Shay. 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.280 I am your whole Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.479 of Club Sha Shay. And the guy that's stopping by 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.800 for conversation on the drink today is an actor, comedian writer. 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.840 He spent six seasons on Saturday Night Live. He's the 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:58.720 master of impersonations none other than Jay Barrel. What's going 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.840 on on? Can't you do? I'm good? I'm good? So 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:04.640 I was I was gonna get there me out the room. Okay, 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.720 you started doing me probably about a decade ago. Yep, 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.960 why the fuck you bother me? I listened. They wrote it, 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:14.960 they wrote it, and I and I saw the cat. 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:17.080 I said, man, okay, I could do that, but I 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.240 don't think it was that good at first. I think 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.560 I was exaggerating for no reason. Right, I didn't have it. 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:24.480 I didn't have anything funny to say, so I had 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.760 to exaggerate the mannerism. And I don't know. I thought 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:29.959 I always was under the impression you did not like 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.200 it or like me. I was like, it wasn't you. 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.600 I didn't like the person because, like you said, because 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:38.240 the manner rhysm was so exaggerated. But I think you, uh, 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:40.720 you refined it because I think, like you said, you 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:42.520 saw it in the script and it was something that, 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.000 like the other impersonations that we're gonna get to, you 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.800 probably had an opportunity to rehearse those yep over and 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.880 over and perfect it. And this was like last weekday. 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.480 I got it ia same thing with it was the 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:55.400 same thing with stephen A. Smith, Like you know, I 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.040 didn't have that impression at first, right, So they they 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.040 were like, can you do this by Saturday, and I 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:01.800 was like, let me see what I can do. And 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.240 as I kept doing it, I refined it more, you 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.000 know what I mean, and made it made the character 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:09.079 more lucid. But at first, nah, dog, it was just 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:10.880 it was me trying to get used to it. Did 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.919 you always have that ability, that ability to impersonate people? 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.600 And who was your first impersonation? Uh? Yes, I always 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.400 I've had it since I was six years old. And 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.000 it was Gilbert Godfrey. Okay, that was the first one. Okay, 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.880 the Jewish dude with it with the crazy voice. You know, 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:27.960 It's just so I just kept doing that, and then 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.800 it was Forrest Gump, Sally Field. Then it was ed 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:33.320 Ed and Eddie, and then I just kept adding characters 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.240 to that. Did you ever do your parents? Could you? 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.920 Could you? Could you do your mom and your dad? Oh? Yeah, Jarry, 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:41.200 that's what my mom always talks. Jack. You gotta stop cursing. 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.079 Remember where you came from? My father just like I 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:48.800 don't give a fuck Hills my dad. My dad is 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:52.720 so hardcore, and my mother is so like, she's so conservative. 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.640 But when you see her turn up, it's so charming 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.840 because it's like she's just she's natural with it. So 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:03.120 how long does it take you to perfect an impersonation? 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.120 It just depends on who it is, man. I mean 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.400 some people will take a month, other people will take years, 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.120 Like Denzel took three years, really three years because I 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.280 was watching My voice wasn't all the way there because 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.400 I you know, I was young. I'm still teenagers, right, 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:22.040 So it took it took a lot of a lot 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.639 of vocal contorting to get that down to a t. 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.640 And I still feel like I'm still learning stuff about 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:30.480 Denzel that I didn't know. So when you're doing in person, 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.240 they sell you're doing Denzel. Are you watching movies? Are 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:36.040 you just listening to him, listening to him talking interviews? 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:38.520 How are you going about trying to perfect this? I'm 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.160 doing all of that. I'm watching him in interviews, I'm 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.600 I'm watching movies. I'm looking at certain things that he's 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:48.280 doing that don't stick out. Like Denzel has this thing 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.480 with his lips. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he always he'll do that. 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.119 We'll go like that, Yeah, he'll bite his lip. He'll 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.280 look at you when he always looks off to the 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.960 left side like there's something over there, there's nothing over there. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:03.760 What's going on? Soboy coming in the room'd be like 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:07.960 and it'll look away. He be like, who was over there? 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.400 And it was nobody. That's his thing if you watch 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:12.520 Adris el but his thing is to not look at 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.000 the camera. Right. I was just you know, so when 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.680 you talk like Adris, she just like looks away. And 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.200 you know he looked at you like a little bit 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.520 maybe real, but you know he never looked at you 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:25.360 in your eyes made because he didn't have to. I'm 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.920 too pretty right. So let me ask your question when 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.920 you first did Denzel? Have you ever met Denzel? Yes? 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.080 I did, And so what did he say about the impersonation? 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.160 To know what he said? What do you think when 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.159 I saw him finally, because it was such a it 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.080 was such a big night for him. It was the 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.279 it was the god dagg it he was. It was 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.479 he was getting he was getting honored, right, he was 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.720 getting what was it called he got honored? Uh? It 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:54.599 wasn't Mark Twain, it was Uh, it was two thousand 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.400 and nine. It was celebration. I was he was. He 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.479 was getting in the meal with the de sensibly the 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.440 meal a war. I don't think it was. I don't 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:03.520 think it was that when it was it was another one. 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.320 God dagg it, I'm trying to remember it. But anyway, 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:10.320 all right, So twenty nineteen, it's a ceremony. Everybody's there, 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.240 Jamie Fox is there, all the celebrities, everybody, Mars Charlotte, 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:17.320 everybody's there. I don't see him at the initial celebration, 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.159 and I was sad about that because it's like every 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:21.839 time I tried to walk up to him, it's like 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:23.720 he felt me and he would walk away right, And 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:25.440 I was like, I was like, is he messing with me? 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:29.479 Is he messing with me? Because finally at the after party, 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.640 I get there and I tell the guy I said, man, 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:34.640 I didn't meet Denzel, and he was like, just stay 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.159 here because he's about to walk in. He walks in, 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.880 he looks at him, he goes, oh, oh shit, Okay, 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:42.719 you owe me a lot of money, niggro you know, 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.960 huh yeah, I'm keeping you hot. You understand you're a 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:48.920 lot todler. And I thought too, I thought you were shut. 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.040 I thought you were like five nine five h six 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.080 two Wow you little told you gotta all him too? 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:58.480 Been working out? Hut you look good? And we start talking, right, 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.440 We're talking for like ten but let mek your question. 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.240 Are you talking to him? And then no, no, no no, no, 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.960 no no no at that point. At that point, I'm like, 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.080 I'm too nervous. I'm like, man, this is this is 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.520 one of the as he's won, the titles sexist man 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.960 in the world. I can't do it. I'm intimidated right now, 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.240 you know. But I was talking to him. We're just 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:18.720 we're conversing, and then the camera dude comes and he 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.440 takes the flash. He flashes us. We both turn at 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:23.760 the same time, pose and go back to talking. It 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.880 was like the smoothest, coolest thing ever. And he sits 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:30.520 down and Chris because Chris Tucker pulls him over. Chris Tucker, 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.479 I'm trying to get a picture with him because I'm like, 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.040 this is Denzel. I don't know if I'm gonna see 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.159 him again, you know what i mean. It's like seeing 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:38.600 Denzel is like seeing a unicornis right, you know what 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.600 I mean. You're barely gonna see this guy, right, So 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.480 I'm so I'm so pressed to get the picture. Chris 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.520 Tucker comes, pulls him away and has him take a 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.080 picture with his son, and then Denzel goes and sits 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.559 down and I said, Chris, I really wanted to talk 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:54.800 to Denzel to get his picture. Go over there, man, 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:56.920 he's sitting there, to go to talk to him. Man, 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:58.880 he'll take a picture with you. Man, he will. Man, 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.120 go take a man over there. Man, Amen, ain't that man, Amen, 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:02.679 I ain't do that. Man, go ahead and take a picture. 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:04.800 I walked up to him and I said, can I 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.040 take a picture with you? He goes You said, can 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.000 you been? Can you been over? If you can been 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.400 down and take this picture, I'll take this picture with you. Yeah, 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.400 I'll take it. So I just so you see me 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:17.160 bending down uncomfortably taking a picture with Denzel as he's 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.400 just sitting there with the face like and I'm like, damn, 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.560 I don't know if he's annoyed or if he's happy, 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:24.600 But I got that damn picture. You got it. I 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:28.280 got that picture, Shannon. So all your impersonations, who's your favorite? 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:30.920 Oh man? Because I mean I'm looking at the list 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.760 you got. Obviously Denzel, you've done, Kevin Hart, you did 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:37.080 Chris Tucker. They say you can do Will Smith, Obama, Kanye, 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.600 Eddie Murphy. I feel like the one I fall into 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:44.800 the most naturally is probably uh is either Eddie Murphy 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:49.080 or Will or Denzel, but I don't have a favorite one. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.160 I do you do hold too? I do? Have you 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:55.880 ever been hold? Yeah? You know it's funny because every 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.560 time you know, Jaga sees me, he was like, yo foot, 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:04.360 what up? Fake jay Z? Yeah, I think it's hilarious. 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.880 Keep it up. Yeah, you know, less money, but you 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:13.000 know you'll get there. You'll get there. Yeah. So it's 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.440 it's always been a nice It's everybody's always been nice. 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:21.400 You know. Kanye Kanye was one of the people that 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.080 called me up and talked to me for twenty minutes. 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.760 But you know, how can't you get your number? I 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:30.440 have no They gave it to him. They snel gave 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:31.920 it to him. They snitched on me, They gave him 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.520 the number. He hit me up. We talked for twenty minutes. 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.000 He gets he didn't like it. He didn't He didn't 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.920 say he didn't like it. He said, you know, you know, 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:44.160 I appreciate what you did. You know, like, you know, 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.480 I appreciate your show. But you know, let me just 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.640 a lot. Let me just tell you where I came from. 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.480 Like both of my parents were black panthers and all 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.680 of this. So he's talking for twenty minutes. I'm thinking 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:57.160 we're cool. He gets on stage the next day Made 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.960 in America. He dishes me in front of fifty thousand people. 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.840 What he dis is me? He was like, I called 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.960 Jake Farrell right after the awards, like, but you know, 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.000 every time somebody recants and tells the story, they put 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.679 extra emotions from you. Ye got to grow They wanted 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.040 to grow up. He added it like he called me 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.880 up and pressed me. He's like no. He just was like, look, 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.160 I appreciate what you did, but you know you have 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.319 a lot of influence, So I just want to give 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.800 you the background story of who I am. You know 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:25.280 what they gotta do. What you're doing it in personal 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.680 I guess it would make him make me want to 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.640 stop because if I know who he but it made 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:34.480 you want to do it more, it did. It made 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.160 me want to impersonate this man more. I said, if 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.080 I'm doing this, I made it. I thought that Shannon 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:44.760 until Pete Davison came. It's like, oh you gotta yeah, 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:46.520 you gotta go to I thought it was going the 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.200 impression route. It's the wife route. That's what you gotta do. 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:51.160 You gotta come you gotta hit the white you know 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.920 he gonna you know, he's gonna snap the wife. What 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.760 I mean, I didn't. I'm just saying it's a fact. 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:00.840 It's not a lie. It happened. The man set it himself. 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:05.080 Who's that set him? What he called? He called Charlemagne. 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:08.240 He called Charlemagne. He was like, you're gonna allow a 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.400 white boy with a ten inch penis to sleep with 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:15.319 my wife? Like I was like, hey, I wouldn't. I 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.360 wouldn't have been putting that out if it's shot, because 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:20.640 I gotta if I'm trying to return, you know what 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:27.319 I mean to return to what to a cave man? 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:31.120 He gotta wrap on that me running on. You need 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.960 to pad every s in there. You gonna have somebody 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.360 gonna get my number call me, but shading, you can 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.920 have my hang up, but you look, you can hang up, 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.520 but you can hang him. Mess with you, sh man. 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:48.600 You tossed Kanye West like some gingerbread cookies. Brother, So 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.040 how how okay you start? You said you're started this 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:54.120 at six years of age? Sir? How do you learn 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.160 to like contrt you? I mean, because I mean, after 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:58.880 you do it for so long, do you forget that 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.640 what your natural boys found. Like, oh man, and that 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.800 is a that's that's what so many people get misconstruted, 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:08.120 messed up. I never forget how I sund but I'm 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:11.040 so used to doing it, so it's just it's like 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.320 it's like Lebron. It's like Lebron playing basketball for me, 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.319 Like it's so simple like that, So I never get caught. 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:20.280 I would never get in a Heath Ledger situation where 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.600 I'm too in the character and then now I can't 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.000 escape it. I've never been one of them people, you know, 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.760 because I feel like it's a blessing. It's a curse too, 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.320 but blessing to do so many because you're just so 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.280 used to coming in and out, you know, pause, you know, 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:40.679 coming in and out of yourself. Okay, yeah, let me so, 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:45.000 how do how do how does SNA happen? Oh man? Well, 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:46.360 I got a I got an age in the two 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:49.559 thousand and nine shout out to Josh Pearl ICM. This 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.520 was like the beginning stages. ICM is now CAA. They've 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:56.280 converted changed into them. But I was on the road 0:11:56.320 --> 0:12:00.319 with my sister. This is after after Charlie Murphy. Those 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.240 gigs were kind of like drying up right. You know. 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:03.439 He took me in a road winner when I was 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.960 nineteen for three years and I thought that was my SNL. 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.880 It was not got ahead of the plans, so I 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:11.959 hit the road two thousand and nine, me and my sister. 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.200 I got an agent and we put together an audition 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:18.040 tape sending in two thousand and ten. They called me 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.400 in and August two thousand and ten and I got 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:26.960 the job. I auditioned once I flew back to New York. 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:28.920 I think a few times. I think Lauren and the 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:30.640 team were trying to figure out if there was somebody 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.040 you could write for me. And Brian Tucker, who also 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.760 wrote for Chris Rock for the Chris Rock Show. You 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:37.360 gotta say that. You know he didn't write a stand 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.400 up but he didn't write Chris Rock Show. You know, 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:44.280 he was the appointed writer for me and we you know, bam, 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.440 there it was. It's literally happened like that. And I 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.160 said to myself, Man, because I was working at Burlington too, 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.360 I said to myself, I said, man, how many coach 0:12:53.440 --> 0:13:01.600 did you steal? Ido? I am. I am from the Burbs, Okay, 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:05.559 so I am. I ain't steal anything. I can't people 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:07.760 still enough? It was a lot of They should have 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.840 paid me extra. No, you try to stop him, Yeah, 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.320 I try to start. We had your stuff. Hey, But 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:17.440 I know it says Burlington's not fair. I understand that shame. 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.360 But look when the dudes. When I said, miss Lilian, 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:24.320 my manager, she literally said get them niggas. Jay, I said, 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.280 I gotta get him, and that's when I asked I 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.120 booked and the dude was a crackhead. Hey. I was 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.120 out there circling up with him and it was another gentleman. 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.280 We were both we would like the rock. We were 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.959 looking at this like if he made any move, we 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:41.200 was gonna get him. He dropped the merchandise. Another security 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.120 guard came out there. The security guard was supposed to 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.840 mister force. Yeah, and he was, you know, he older, 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.120 so he ain't as fast as we were. He came out, 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.120 dude dropped the stuff and he left. But god, dang, wait, 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.720 can I wait, I see we switching drinks and stuff. 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:58.000 It's man have Yeah. Yeah, I told all right, sir, yes, 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:02.959 say thank you for coming home. That's why I like Man. 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.480 I like Shannon Shannon Man. Shannon always got the brown 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.719 around you. You don't for you don't care. But yeah, 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.840 I've heard you say. NL is like you audition every 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.840 single week. It's not like you're on for the entire 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:17.600 You're like, okay, you got one of your contract. You're 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:20.000 on for the entire year. You got to go and 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.920 they got to like your stuff. You audition for your 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:27.320 job every week. Imagine if you why okay, imagine if 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.560 you had to do that. Now, imagine if you had 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.680 to do that when you were playing football bow every 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:34.720 week you got an audition to be on the team. 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.400 You can get cut every week. Right. It's just it 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.920 puts you in a mental state to know that, look, 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.720 whatever I produce, whatever I'm making, it has to be 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.680 good because if it's not, I'm not gonna get any burned. 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:48.320 You know what I mean. It puts you on like 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.880 a survivor flight mode, right, you know what I mean? 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.680 And that is the I think that's the narrative for 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:58.280 SNL in general. And it's so competitive. But the good 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.440 thing is when you do get something, you know you 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:04.280 do have moments like twenty eight reasons like what does 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:08.360 my girls say? Like uh, like twelve days of twelve 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.200 days of free slave, like all of these all of 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.720 these sketches. You come out with gold, but you got 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.920 to go through the fire, right, you know, And after 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.000 you're done with that, you can do any job in 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.400 the world like no other job. Is hard because I've 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.720 been up there and I've I've been high, I've been low, 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:28.240 I've been depressed, I've been exhilar exhilarated, you know what 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.000 I mean. So it's just it's just an emotional roller 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.520 coaster and you you have to know how to navigate it. 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:37.960 And you know, me, being an introvert is really hard, right, 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.120 I'm an introvert. Yes, Like, of course I perform. I 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.400 did theater, I grew up doing theater and all of that. 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.280 But if I'm on the stage performing, I have a 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.000 job to do. Once I get off, I am. I 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.960 am literate like this, That's what I tell people. I'm 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:56.320 the most outgoing introvert you're gonna meet work, Yeah, I really? Yeah? 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.840 What you so extra? When you have to be you 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.640 get yup? There has to be meaning behind it. Yeah, 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.000 I understand. You don't just go. You ain't just in 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:06.960 the club turning up none of that. I had an 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:10.160 ex told me that. She said, yeah, man, he was 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.320 He's so funny. Yeah, he said. She said, I was 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.360 waiting for a year and a half, two years, and 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.680 I never saw what you got to see. That's oh 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:20.800 she didn't. She ain't have enough, she ain't had what 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:22.440 it was to bring it out of you. I just 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:26.560 I just I'm just I mean, it's just something about 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.840 like I understand who I who? I need to be 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:33.520 got you going to get skip? And when I'm home, 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:37.240 I'm just I'm quiet. I'm watching TV but no sound, 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.960 I'm eating, playing stuff. And so he didn't get that outgoing. 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:45.160 I don't, I don't know. I'm just just really never 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.560 opened up. I'm not. I just I don't know. I 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.800 just I needed to have like And then we went 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.000 to an event and I had a couple of my 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.760 homeboys that I played with and that I knew, and 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:59.680 she says, why can't you be like that around me? 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.320 And I just I don't and I couldn't explain it. Yeah, 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:04.520 it's just I mean, but you comfortable with who are 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.960 you comfortable with? Yeah? I no, no, I mean, I 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.040 mean beside it was a couple of other things. Yeah, 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.080 it was a couple of other things. I missed that up. 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:17.960 But so it hasn't fumbled the COUCHI bag Yeah. Yeah, 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.040 that's just life, man. You live, you learn, and then 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.600 you turn it to a beast. Got dagged? Yeah yeah, 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:26.640 I mean a big twenty twenty three gonna be big 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:28.600 for me. I got I got got some stuff, you know, 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:30.280 coming down the pipeline. It's gonna be great for me. 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:34.640 But let me so the pressure of knowing I've got 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:39.120 to perform every single Saturday. So how much time Okay, 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.359 you say you had a rider that so he's writing, 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:44.760 So how much time are you getting an opportunity to 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.560 spend doing trying to perfect the skit to make sure 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:52.080 it's perfect. Well you get uh, well, I'll tell you 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:58.040 like this. Thursday, Thursday's rehearsal, Wednesday's read through. Tuesday is uh, 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.359 Tuesday is writing night. Monday you're pitching ideas. Okay, so 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:06.399 you get to rehearse it on Thursday and Friday. If 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.960 your skip gets through probably about six times, and then 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.840 you do it, uh one, two, three, you do it 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:16.040 three more times on Saturday. Right, you do you do rehearsal, 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.840 you do dress rehearsal, and then you do the actual show. Right, 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:21.960 you know when they cutting stuff up until they're cutting 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:24.720 stuff up until air, like something can make it through 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.680 dress rehearsal and it might make necessarily be on the air. 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.159 What yeah, Oho, man, you've been tim I've been practicing 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:31.880 all this and y'all gonna talk about this. Ain't gonna 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:33.720 make it. They'll take it away. Now we gotta fight 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:38.600 and you y'all got me no choice. I've been this. 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:43.760 There be your backstage that is so southern. Oh no, 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:46.800 we gotta fight now, ya. I don't came to do 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:48.320 all this and we don't pray you say, we got 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.800 all these rehearsals and dress rehearsal and run through and 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.720 then we like, I don't called the homies. Hey you boy, 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:58.040 got this skipt yep, and they're gonna tell about eight 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:02.040 your grandmother you're trying to smash And then you're like 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:05.520 what you mean? Yeah, you just and you gotta you 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.680 gotta hold that. There's nothing you can do and you 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.240 you gotta go up on the stage and have a 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:12.119 smile at the end of the night. They want you 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.840 to do. After they cut you, after they after they 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.600 cut you fifty times, stab you fifty times, you're sitting 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.080 there bleeding, your shirt red. You had you had a 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.600 fresh white suit on a whole ship. Then turn Burgundy. 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:24.440 Now you know what I mean? You the sugar knighted 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:26.800 your whole shit up right, and now you gotta sit 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.800 out there and smile to the folks and just wave 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:32.359 like everything is all right. Right. It's a it's an 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.960 emotional roller coaster, and it's a balance you have to 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:37.760 you gotta be able to balance. And I feel like 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:39.879 I grew up a lot. It just grew up a 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:42.520 lot there because I didn't know. I'm a sheltered kid. 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:44.359 Did you go to him and like, bro, I mean 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:46.080 what happened? I mean you you just stay with fold. 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:47.600