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Speaker 1: to Ben to the Fishing podcast. That's better than Netscape,

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Speaker 1: I hate to even call this photo awkward anymore, Dude, Like,

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Speaker 1: a party with Tyler. Dude. The fact that he is,

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Speaker 1: There's there's a huge difference between hipsters that like paid

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Speaker 1: belt buckle in the weekly fish competition we call fish news.

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Speaker 1: Fish News. That escalated quickly, So here's a super fun

422
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Speaker 1: shout out to kick things off. A lot of you

423
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Speaker 1: have been reaching out asking us who the hell one

424
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Speaker 1: the big b Side fishing giveaway, you know, the one

425
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Speaker 1: where you got every single thirteen rod and really used

426
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Speaker 1: in season one of the show. And we apologize for

427
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Speaker 1: that announcement taking so long, but please understand that Miles

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Speaker 1: and I are not the ones that like stick our

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Speaker 1: hands in the baseball cap and and pull out the

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Speaker 1: name on a tiny folded piece of paper. It's not

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Speaker 1: our job, and honestly, at least I assume that's how

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Speaker 1: it's done by whoever does. I'm certain that it's not

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Speaker 1: like computer generator algorithmic. I'm certain there's a hat and

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Speaker 1: folded paper. For sure, you got an intern writing all

435
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Speaker 1: the names that thing exactly. The truth is all that

436
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Speaker 1: stuff the contest have a ways that that's way above

437
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Speaker 1: our heads. That's that's handled elsewhere other departments. I think,

438
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Speaker 1: I don't know. So it's the truth is it takes

439
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Speaker 1: a while for us to find out who wins these things.

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Speaker 1: But just like we were all hoping, like we said,

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Speaker 1: we were hoping a bed listener brought home the sweet,

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Speaker 1: sweet taste of victory. So huge congratulations go out to

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Speaker 1: Dylan Antillus antilus something like that. And and not only

444
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Speaker 1: am I happy that this dude one because he's a listener,

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00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: his backstory and the way that this has all coming together,

446
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Speaker 1: it could not be more timely or appropriate considering what

447
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Speaker 1: we were talking about in in last week's episode of

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Speaker 1: the show. Yeah right, So last week's show was fly focused,

449
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: but Miles and I both made the point that it's

450
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,479
Speaker 1: okay to take spinning gear when you fly fish. That's okay.

451
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,239
Speaker 1: You're not going to get in trouble. We do it

452
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Speaker 1: all the time. But the real theme of that episode

453
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Speaker 1: was to assuage any trepidation conventional anglers might have about

454
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Speaker 1: getting in fly fishing right. And then along comes Dylan.

455
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Speaker 1: And when Dylan hit me up upon hearing the news

456
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Speaker 1: that he wont he was like, yeah, I'm a hardcore

457
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: flag guy, but wouldn't you know it, I was recently

458
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Speaker 1: thinking about buying some conventional gear, so the timing couldn't

459
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Speaker 1: be which he should do because it's all about being

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Speaker 1: a well rounded angler. And and Dilan Dillon was saying

461
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Speaker 1: that he hasn't owned a spinning rod or a convention

462
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Speaker 1: rod of any kind of like ten years some of

463
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Speaker 1: his backstock, but he's already gotten his hands on some

464
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Speaker 1: of that thirteen gear. And so just the other day

465
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Speaker 1: he was out fishing on Buddy's canoe and he wanted

466
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Speaker 1: to throw google bugs with his fly rod, but it

467
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Speaker 1: was blowing I don't know, thirty or something. It was

468
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Speaker 1: too windy. So he just happened to have all this

469
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Speaker 1: new conventional gear. He busted that out through on a

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Speaker 1: hula popper and started trashing large mouse, which is exactly

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about. And there you go. That's the

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Speaker 1: that's the real life, live version of our p s

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Speaker 1: A right there, that story defined bent right like, that's

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Speaker 1: our whole our whole stick. It's just fishing, man, It's

475
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Speaker 1: all good no matter how you catch them. So that's perfect. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and and congratulations again, Dylan, send us some photos. Uh,

477
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: we want to see what you're getting. And now I

478
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Speaker 1: think it's time we should we should move on with

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Speaker 1: with our contest, Our own contest, Our weekly contest. Remember,

480
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Speaker 1: Joe and I do not know which news stories the

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Speaker 1: other guys bringing to the table. And at the end

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Speaker 1: of all of this, our audio engineer, Phil, the Deacon

483
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Speaker 1: of our digital water world, will pass judgment upon both

484
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Speaker 1: of us. He will, he will. I believe it's my

485
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Speaker 1: lead off this week or you're you're up, buddy, and

486
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Speaker 1: what do you got? Okay, alright, so here we go.

487
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Speaker 1: I first caught win this story on Wire to Fish,

488
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: but uh, it's made the round since, including right over

489
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Speaker 1: there to for the wind dot Com, which we all

490
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Speaker 1: know is one of my favorite news sources. Because that

491
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Speaker 1: I hope this is the story that I think it is.

492
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: It is because we can't not write um, so that's

493
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Speaker 1: where I'm pulling from. For the wind dot Com, headline

494
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: of this one is Texas Fisherman's mean mouth bass is

495
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Speaker 1: a world record meanmouth bass. You say, what is that? Well,

496
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: here's how undialed I am in the bass world. I'd

497
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: never heard the term before this, but it is a

498
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Speaker 1: true hybrid between a small mouth bass and a large

499
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Speaker 1: mouth bass. I don't know about you, I never knew

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00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: such a thing existed, Like I'd never heard the term um,

501
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: and I certainly didn't know that this occurred enough to

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Speaker 1: have a name like meanmouth. But more on that later.

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00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: We'll do some mean mouth. I'm sorry, you've already obviously

504
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: researched this. I thought it was a hybrid with a

505
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: spot and a small mouth, but I could be wrong

506
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: about that. Apparently this is your story, so I'm not

507
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: trying to I'm not trying to mess you up. So

508
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: I think a mean mouth. It works both ways. You

509
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: can't have a hybrid between a small mouth and a spot.

510
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: But there's no spot in the lake where the gent

511
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: and this story is fishing. There's small amounts in large mouths.

512
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Speaker 1: So as I understand it, it it works both ways. Right

513
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: If I'm wrong about that some of you out there,

514
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: I know there's a bassett out there who's like tearing

515
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: his or her hair out until let us know, right, okay,

516
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: because I'm just look, all I have to go on

517
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Speaker 1: here is what's on for the wind, which is not

518
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: much fair enough. Don't ask me questions that the Smithsonian

519
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: should answer or something. Okay, it's just on the right anyway.

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00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: So here's what happened. Whyatt Franken's was fishing the o

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Speaker 1: h Ivy Reservoir in Texas. This is way back in

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Speaker 1: March when he hooked this seven pounds nine ounce fish,

523
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Speaker 1: and for those of you curious, all your bass heads

524
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Speaker 1: that ate a mega bass swim bait. And upon landing

525
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: the fish, Franken's was certain that what he had was

526
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Speaker 1: a new lake record small mouth and that's what prompted

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00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: him to have the fish weighed. And according to the story, um,

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00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: while it was being weighed, some onlookers at wherever this

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00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: was tackle shop or I who knows uh, suggested that

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Speaker 1: it might be a hybrid. So Franken's sent scale samples

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Speaker 1: into Texas parks and wildlife and wouldn't you know it,

532
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: it's a hybrid. Now this is making bigger news recently

533
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Speaker 1: because Franken's just got final certification from the i g

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Speaker 1: f A that it is, in fact the world record

535
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: mean mouth bass. So it's state record, lake record and

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00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: world record right now now looking at right, yeah, it's pretty.

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00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: It's cool. So now looking at the photo, if I

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Speaker 1: caught that, I'd have called it a pure small mouth

539
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: all day. I'm sure a lot of people are wondering

540
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: what these things look like and other than to my

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00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: at least like some slight large amount style patterning on

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Speaker 1: the flanks, if I caught that, it probably wouldn't have

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00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: crossed my mind. It looks way more small mouth to me.

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00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: But interestingly so, here's a little history at the term

545
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: mean mouth. It's been around. It was coined in the

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00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: nineteen sixties when Dr William Childer's his colleagues at the

547
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: Illinois Natural History Survey began studies on sunfish family hybrids.

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Speaker 1: And listen to this right for the wind pulled a

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00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: quote from in Fisherman from an old story, and here's

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Speaker 1: what it says. The researchers noted that different black bass

551
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: species didn't hybridize when stockton ponds with members of another species.

552
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: I eat all males of one species with all females

553
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: of another, but fertilizing large mouth eggs with small mouth

554
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: sperm produced viable offspring that reproduced among themselves and with

555
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: both parental species. Right gets better. The term mean mouth

556
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: bass was born when Childers observed a school of large

557
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: mouth small mouths attacking a female swimmer. There's a quote

558
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: says the bass leap from the water and struck her

559
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: on the head and chest and drove her from the pond.

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00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: On another occasion, he watched mean mouths attack a dog

561
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: that ventured in his shallow water. Yeah, this is from

562
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: an old in Fisherman story. This is what they're saying

563
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: about the mean mouths so exactly. Man Like, I've never

564
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: heard of any of this, right, So just based on that,

565
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: I'm very in on mean mouth bass And I was

566
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Speaker 1: trying to find info on whether there's a place where

567
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: they occur, you know, more frequently, but I kind of

568
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: drew a blank there. It seems like the south and

569
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: southeast might have more, but it's it's still pretty rare.

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00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: And again, frankly, all the pictures I've seen, you know,

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00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: I did the Google image church, they all look like

572
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: a smalley to me, you know, like I may have

573
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: caught twenty already, who knows. I think the variance is

574
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: so subtle in most cases that it would slip by

575
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: most people. Um. I did see a few that had

576
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: like a belly so huge, they just looked more in

577
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: large mouth shape. But for the most part, I think

578
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: it's a it's a very tricky I d um. But hey, like,

579
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: look they sound vicious. I have one quick I d

580
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: question that you may or it may not know. Um.

581
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,239
Speaker 1: One of the ways to tell difference between those two

582
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: is the dorsal fin right, and and whether they have

583
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 1: a shallow or a deep notch in that dorsal fin

584
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: Where's where's the mean mouth in in the dorsal notching?

585
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, Myles, I'll have to get back to you.

586
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, why are you doing this to me? It

587
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 1: is a valid question, But why are you doing this

588
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: to me? Because I'm curious you think you think for

589
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: the wind went into that much detail. Okay, I I

590
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I will follow up on that. I feel

591
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 1: I feel small right now, do your research, I know.

592
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: Do you like, all of a sudden, I'm in, like

593
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, freshman bio in college again, like did you

594
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: read the thing? And I'm like, no, I didn't actually, Okay,

595
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: I was playing guitars and drinking slurpees. Sound of a bit, uh,

596
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: But anyway, Look, they sound vicious and they sound cool,

597
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: which is great because that, by the way, I see

598
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: that hybridization could have easily produced like a small mouth

599
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: that didn't really fight, or like a large mouth wouldn't

600
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: eat pretty much anything you dropped in front of it.

601
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: So it just it sounds like a win all around. Yeah,

602
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm all in. I want to know more about the

603
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: mean mouth, so I have burning questions that the joke

604
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: clearly can't answer it, so hopefully hopefully someone out there,

605
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: hopefully someone out there will follow up. Uh I this this,

606
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: There is no clear connection between meanmouth and what I

607
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: want to talk about. First, I gotta say I'm I

608
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: will say that my stories are thematic in that. Here's

609
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: what I'll say. I'm going very different from you, because

610
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: I can hardly think of anything more American than a

611
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: mean mouth bass like that. That just feels so American.

612
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: That should be our national fish. Not yeah, it absolutely should.

613
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: And and the transition I have into what I'm gonna

614
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: talk about is that I'm going to the opposite direction.

615
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm not going American at all in any of the

616
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: stories I'm covering. I'm going I'm going far afield. So

617
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: if you know anything about the Netherlands, you probably know

618
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: or you hopefully know, that their geniuses when it comes

619
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: to managing water. A full third of that country's land

620
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: mass sits below sea level and and two thirds of

621
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: it is floodplain. So the Dutch have been actively working

622
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: on ways to reclaim land and mitigate floods since the century.

623
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: Part of that part of that water management strategy is

624
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: the use and maintenance of canals and dams and locks, right,

625
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: because Amsterdam is super famous for all of its canals,

626
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: but it's not the only city in the country that's

627
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: got water running all through it. That's that's kind of everywhere,

628
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: and nearby Utrics canals are just as impressive. And and

629
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: though man made, have served to connect multiple river systems

630
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: for thousands of years, and generally all these canals are

631
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: thought of in pretty anthropocentric ways. They're like tools that

632
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: people use keep water and checked and and and facilitate

633
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: boat passage. But though they're man made in urban they

634
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: are functioning aquatic ecosystems. Right. So during the summer months

635
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: the locks get and regularly because of all the boat traffic,

636
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: and when they do, it's not just boats, but they're

637
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: also fish that are taking advantage of passing through. But

638
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: during the winter, with a few boats moving, the locks

639
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: can stay closed for extended periods of time. The last year,

640
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: a Dutch ecologist was working on a project on the

641
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: Utrich Canals and and noticed high concentrations of fish stacking

642
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: up at one particular lock, and the fish were like

643
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: waiting there, like okay, when we when this is gonna open?

644
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: When we could pass through, not knowing that it wasn't

645
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: gonna happen like they're gonna be there for a while,

646
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: and as a result, the fish were getting exhausted and

647
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: then they were getting easily picked off by birds who

648
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: were figuring out easy meals. Right, So this ecologist explained

649
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: the situation to the lock manager who was responsible for

650
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: that lock, and the guy said, well, I want to

651
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: open the door for the fish. For me, it's no problem.

652
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: I lived nearby, but I have to know when exactly

653
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: those fish are there, so I know when I have

654
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: to open the door. So the ecologist partnered with the

655
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: local water board to come up with a solution. They

656
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: installed an underwater camera at the lock and set up

657
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: a website to live stream the camera feed. They're hope.

658
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: They were hoping that a few locals would check the

659
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: live stream from time to time and if they saw

660
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: fish waiting at the lock, they'd click a button, which

661
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: they called a doorbell that would alert the lock manager

662
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: so you could go and open it up. So that's

663
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: they're hoping. Within two weeks, seven hundred and thirty five

664
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: thousand people from all over the world had visited the

665
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 1: live stream and the door was upset. The doorbell had

666
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: been rung thirty two thousand times, and I'm just that

667
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: dude had to immediately regret his decision to participate in

668
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: this right, like, yeah, all of a sudden, he's this

669
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: whole monitor, He's the sole monitor of the live stream.

670
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: Can He's like, I got it, I got it, I

671
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: got it. I'll look, I'll look. Okay, I get annoyed

672
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: when my phone dings at me more than like four

673
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: times a day. This guy was getting pained over two

674
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: thousand times a day from strangers all over the world, like, hey, dude,

675
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: some fish want to get in here. Dude, he dude,

676
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: go open That would be so awful, um and so

677
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: pretty quickly, like they just switched over to a system

678
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: where he would open the locks at regular intervals every

679
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: day and got rid of the doorbell bugging him. And

680
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: you could look at the story and think, what a

681
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: bunch of idiots, right, Like they could have just they

682
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: could have just done that in the first places, had

683
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: the guy opened up the locks three times a day

684
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: and and problem solved. Instead, they wasted all this time

685
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: and then annoyed the hell out of him for no

686
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: good reason. But I'm guessing that this worked out far

687
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: better than the ecologist could have ever hoped. Right, if

688
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: he had just quietly struck a deal with the lock

689
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: manager to open the gates a few times a day

690
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: and let the fish through, the problem would be solved

691
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: for those fish at that spot in that one canal.

692
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: But that's it, And instead he created a system that

693
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: allowed people from all over the world to interact with

694
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: the fish that he cares about in these Dutch canals. Right,

695
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: all these people are now feeling like they're personally helping

696
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: these fish get past a barrier, and in doing that,

697
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: he's he's raised a bunch of awareness not just about

698
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: the aquatic ecology of urban Dutch waterways, but urban waterways everywhere,

699
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: and that's a huge wind. Right. Additionally, the camera allowed

700
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: him to collect data on the specific fish species moving

701
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: through the canal and confirmed that it's an important migration route. Right.

702
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: The cameras captured various different species, including endangered European eels

703
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: that we're using the canals as part of their catagermus spotting.

704
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: So with with with the summer boating season full swing,

705
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: the locks are now opening regularly and the doorbell has

706
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: been shut down. But there municipality has confirmed that it

707
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: will be back in operation next winner, but hopefully not

708
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: actually painting that poor poor luck manage anymore. I'll tell

709
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: you what that man. I am not at all surprised

710
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: by those numbers, um because like just as one example,

711
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: and you know this happens all over the country, but

712
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: like the Fairmount Damn in Philadelphia on the school gool,

713
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: they had a fish cam in their fish ladder and

714
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: I would look at it every day and not for

715
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: a minute, like nine nine point nine percent of the

716
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: time there would be nothing. You'd just be looking at

717
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: water and bubbles, and I would sit there for twenty

718
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: minutes and stare at it like waiting for what. I

719
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: don't know. They had all their archive greatest moments, Like

720
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: you go to the archives still it's like, oh a

721
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: carp and it's like, oh my god, strip but like

722
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: I never saw any of that ship, but I would

723
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: still watch it. There's what there's nest cams like so

724
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: he's doing nothing. And then um, like the one thing

725
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 1: that we used to use a lot still do back

726
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: in my surf fishing days, they had all the surf

727
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: cams set up, which were more for surfers. I mean

728
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: they were in surfing websites, but I mean came in

729
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: really handy when you're that far away and you want

730
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: to look at the at the surf, but like you

731
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: don't watch it for thirty seconds and know, okay, like

732
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: you sit there and you're just watching waves break on

733
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: the computer for thirty minutes, Like what am I looking for?

734
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: So I'm really not at all surprised by those numbers.

735
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: People just love that, like live, live, love it stuff.

736
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: I should just like set one up in my yard.

737
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: I'd get a million hits. It's like, look at Joe's yard.

738
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: You could be anything people, somebody will watch it. But

739
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: this takes it to another level because they had a

740
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: chance to actually engage. They could they could push a

741
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: button and make something happen with those fish on the

742
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: other side of the world, Like you want to talk

743
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: about people. People are not that different from rats pushing

744
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: the button for the cheese, Like they want that immediate

745
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: feedback and when you get it, like, I totally understand

746
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: why it blew up. The only thing, the only thing

747
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: that would have been better and funnier is imagine if

748
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: they hardwired it so when you hit it, the lock

749
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: just opened, like all day long, and I'll just be

750
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: like it would have been broken, Yeah, you would just

751
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: you would have just killed the entire lock. Really struggling

752
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: on a transition here, I don't have one. Uh. I

753
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: was stretching there to try. But that's okay. I'm gonna

754
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: go back domestic. We're gonna go to Florida for what

755
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say is some fairly significant news out of Florida.

756
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: It appears that the three decade ban on harvesting Goliath

757
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: grouper is closer than it's ever been to being lifted.

758
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: That's that's actually it's fairly significant, right. So this story

759
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: comes from Florida Phoenix dot com and was written by

760
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: Craig Pittman. And for those unaware, right to kill or

761
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: not kill Goliath Grouper is a huge debate in Florida.

762
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: It's been a flashpoint for many, many years, and and

763
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: and to fully understand what's happening, you just need like

764
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: a wee hint of backstory. And I'm sure most of

765
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: you know what a Goliath grouper is. You've seen the

766
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: TikTok videos of people catching eight pounders off the dock

767
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: at the public ramp with a fifty wide, or hand

768
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: lining them with ropes offshore and so forth. Um, And

769
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: presently I believe you are free and clear to target

770
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 1: Goliath's no problem there. But they cannot be brought into

771
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: the boat, so they're they're still pretty protected now. Pittman

772
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: accurately notes that goliaths tend to post up in an

773
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: area and call at home, and that could be a

774
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: wreck off shore or a bridge, whatever. But his point

775
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: is that their home bodies so like they're kind of

776
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: easy to find because they don't really leave. Like, once

777
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: you know that goliaths are here, they're they're they're pretty

778
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: much gonna be there all the time, and divers will

779
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: tell you so a fisherman, I guess that they're also

780
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: pretty curious. That they're just genuinely curious fish. Some people

781
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: say they're they're gentle giants. They're not these like big

782
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: aggressive monsters, but they check stuff out. Um. And all

783
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: of that contributes to why they were nearly decimated by

784
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: the mid nineteen eighties, right because they were easy to

785
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: catch um and even easier to shoot underwater. Guys would

786
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: use powerhead on a spear gun, and for for many

787
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: decades people sold them to fish markets and restaurants and such,

788
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: so in the ban on killing them went into effect.

789
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: The thing is, according to Pittman, right, there was really

790
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: no accurate count of how many goliaths remained when that

791
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: band went into effect, nor is there really a solid

792
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: account of how many there are now. So the notion

793
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: that they they've rebounded substantially enough to allow harvest is

794
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: really based, you know, basically on what anglers and and

795
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 1: divers are sitting. It's just like, yeah, there's a lot

796
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: more of them out there, but nobody's really out there

797
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: counting or studying those numbers specifically, um, but generally speaking,

798
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: wildlife officials are saying they comeback is a huge win.

799
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: Populations are thriving and all as well. So what's happening

800
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: is you've got environmentalists and and folks tied to like

801
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: the echo tour diving industry that need goliaths for clients

802
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 1: to look at when they're down there diving. They're saying, hey,

803
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, these fish are doing really really good. Let's

804
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: keep it up. And then you have a large amount

805
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: of Florida anglers saying, hey, there's too many of these things.

806
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: Can we please start killing them again? Right? So, here's

807
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: a here's a quote from the story that sort of

808
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: gives you a little bit more detail. Pittman writes, there

809
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: were calls to end the goliath grouper fishing ban in

810
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: two thousand one, two thousand eleven, and again that's because

811
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: some people don't appreciate goliath groupers the way those echo

812
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: tour divers do. Instead of cute, they use words like

813
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: lazy and irritating angler. This is a quote that he

814
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: used here. Anglers fishing for snook, snappers, koba and other

815
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: species routinely tell of how they were reeling in their

816
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: catch to the surface when a Volkswagen sized goliath grouper

817
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: grabbed their fish and snapped their line, The South Florida

818
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: Sun Sentinel reported in two thousand one. Pittman says the

819
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: hardest push to lift the band came three years ago,

820
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: and it produced the biggest push back. When we're it

821
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 1: spread that the Wildlife Agency was considering letting anglers catch

822
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: and keep one hundred goliath groupers. Some fifty six thousand

823
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: people signed petitions against it. But now it appears Fish

824
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: and Wildlife Conservation Commission Chairman Rodney Burretto is giving the

825
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: angling groups what they want, and he says in the story,

826
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: I think the time has come and I think we

827
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: should look at where we've come in thirty years with

828
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: this fishery. Believe it or not, it's another great conservation story.

829
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: It really is. We should be applauding ourselves. So the

830
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: commissioners voted six to one to tell their staff to

831
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: come back in October. This October with a formal proposal

832
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: for what they called a limited harvest, And what I

833
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: gather is that if it passes, you'd have to enter

834
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: a lottery and essentially draw a Goliath tag, and there

835
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: would only be one hundred tags given out. The one

836
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: hundred is still what's on the table. So I don't know.

837
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: I kind of have mixed feeling about it because for starters,

838
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not convinced killing one goliaths would

839
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: do that much damage. Again, nobody really knows the numbers,

840
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: but based on anecdotal evidence and videos alone, it seems

841
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: like there are a lot of goliaths. And if you

842
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: were to go full on open season or something right

843
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: like one fish per day or whatever it may be,

844
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: then I get it, but I really don't think this

845
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: will be that impactful but second, I don't know unless

846
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: you're selling the meat. I also can't really understand why

847
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 1: you want a three plus pound grouper like that much meat. Personally,

848
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: I would much rather catch smaller group of species or

849
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: snappers down there than uh, you know, take a five

850
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: hundred pound goliath, especially considering I mean it is how

851
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: easy they can be to find in hook. You know,

852
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: that's true, Like I would I would almost feel guilty.

853
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: And and final thought, uh, you know about people being

854
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: upset about a goliath occasionally taking your yellow tail snapper off,

855
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, like like like deal with it like

856
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: it's it's to me, It's like that's nature, man, Like

857
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: I've had it happened. It's a bummer, right, but they

858
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: lived down there. Sorry, Like that's just I don't I've

859
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: had it happened. Doesn't mean I want to go shoot

860
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: the goliath with a three fifty seven over it. You know,

861
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: I'd argued that sharks take just as much, if not more,

862
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: fish off the line and then then goliath. So I

863
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: sort of see both sides here. But it's interesting on

864
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: the last because this this band is held for so long,

865
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: and again this is not the first time it's come

866
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: real close, you know, I mean, And the reason that

867
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: ban has held along and why is this is such

868
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: a deal is mega fauna, right like big things. People

869
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 1: like big things and we care about big things, and

870
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: and not that I don't. I think Glad Cooper super

871
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: interesting and I agree with just about everything you said.

872
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: The the other piece though, that I feel like it's

873
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: missing from this is it has to be studied. Like

874
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: if we're gonna, if we're gonna make a management decision,

875
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 1: I don't think it should be based on anecdotal evidence

876
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: of divers and fishing and be like, now there's a

877
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: lot more that that. To me, I think it's probably accurate,

878
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: But I feel like this should be based on some

879
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: kind of actual evidence and data. That's that's the piece

880
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: for me that's missing here. I don't think a hundred

881
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: like if if it's really just a hundred tags, that's

882
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: to me that that's not gonna And these things are

883
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: are are almost everywhere, you know what I mean, Like

884
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: if you think about it, that's not that many fish.

885
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: That's not gonna be a boon for the fishing industry,

886
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: right like a hundred people going out and that doesn't matter.

887
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 1: The was gonna make way more money. Like that tag

888
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: is not going to help the guy who's piste off

889
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: that like five out of ten fish he hooks on

890
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: his favorite wreck it's taken by a glient, right, that's

891
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: not gonna help him. It's gonna be like, yeah, and

892
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's it's you're gonna have charter captains

893
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: in specific places that really want that tag. They may

894
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: never use it, but it's like, I'm going to have

895
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: this in case I have that client that like insists

896
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: on taking this fish, because it's also not gonna do

897
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: anything to revive, you know, commercial sale. It's a hundred

898
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: fish now, right, I mean yeah, I think to me

899
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 1: it smacks of a symbolic move that that it's really

900
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: what it is. I think that if they can get

901
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: this through, then it opens up the door to have

902
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: more wild, widespread harvest down the line. That's my guess

903
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,479
Speaker 1: is that that's where this is going. And I don't

904
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: I don't know enough to have an opinion on whether

905
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: or not that's a responsible decision because again we don't

906
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: have any data. So yeah, well, I mean that's I

907
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: don't know. It's it's still gonna be a long way

908
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: out because he just they want the proposals by October.

909
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: Then that's got to all pass. So we'll see. I

910
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: mean this like like Pittman wrote, Man, this has been

911
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: knocked down with almost an identical proposal three times, so

912
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm curious. See, I'm sure we'll follow up on that

913
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: one absolutely. Uh. This one. The only connection I've got

914
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 1: between that one and this one is it's also about

915
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: a fish that folks have been really trying to recover.

916
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: It is also about a fish. It's about a fish

917
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: and fish to people care about. That's that's about all

918
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: I got. I'm sticking international, but for this one, I'm

919
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: gonna report on a mouse play. And actually I want

920
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: to want I want to do this right, So Phil, Phil,

921
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: can I get a little ominous music the Great Australian

922
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: mouse Plague of Thank you? Phil? Okay. So, Australia has

923
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: been dealing with horrible drought the past few years, which

924
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: has led to massive bush fires and all kinds of

925
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: other issues, anemic rivers and reservoirs, low oxygen levels, massive

926
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: algal blooms. But last year the weather turned. They got

927
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: plenty of rain, plenty of moisture, very few fires. Uh,

928
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: and and vastly improved water quality that also led to

929
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: a banner year for farmers and for mice. And when

930
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: I when I said mouse plague, I wasn't being hyperbolic.

931
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: That's the technical term used when mouse populations hit a

932
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: threshold of eight hundred to one thousand individuals per hector,

933
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: which equals about two point five acres if you speak American,

934
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: a lot of mice. A researcher for the National Science

935
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: Agencies said that trying to count the mice in Australia

936
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 1: right now would be like trying to count the stars

937
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: in the sky. For months might have been ravaging fields

938
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: and causing all kinds of problems across the Eastern Australia.

939
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: The industry group New South Wales Farmers estimate agricultural losses

940
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: in the hundreds of millions of dollars. The mice are

941
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: a huge problem for people, but there kind of turned

942
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: into a huge boon for the fish. According to numerous

943
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: Australian news outlets, murray Cott anglers are reporting that the

944
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: fish are taking advantage of the abundant supply of mice

945
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,959
Speaker 1: falling into the water, which makes sense because murray cott

946
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: eat everything right, They eat everything. The fish this year

947
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: are an excellent condition. If you if you look at

948
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: the photos, you just see these these huge giant standard

949
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: bellies on fish of all different sizes, not just the

950
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: big mature ones, but even the smaller ones are fat.

951
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: The only complaint that local anglers have is that most

952
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: every fish they catch regurgitates half digested mice, sometimes ten

953
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: or more, and the smell is quote not the prettiest.

954
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: This is this is all very welcome news from mary

955
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: God which have been struggling in the past few years.

956
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: The droughts took up a massive toll on the fish,

957
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: and then when the rains finally did come in early,

958
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: they watched so much sentiment of the rivers and dropped

959
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: temperatures so rapidly that some, like the Fame mccruary, experienced

960
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: severe fish kills. So anglers are rejoicing about finally getting

961
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 1: some favorable conditions. Murray cod have plenty water, oxygen, and food,

962
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: and this all sounds like a happy ending, except you

963
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: know that that whole mouse plague is still an issue.

964
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: As the weather cools into winter, all those mice are

965
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: looking for shelter and homes and buildings. They're they're invading houses,

966
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: they're invading neighborhoods. They're like lay waste to hay and

967
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: straw and crop stores. The government is under serious pressure

968
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: to do something about all these mice. Researchers are working

969
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: on genetic bio control solutions, like releasing modified mice in

970
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: the wild that could theoretically lead to rendering female mice infertile,

971
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: but that technology isn't ready. It might help control future outbreaks,

972
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: but not this one. That's like a heavy. That's a

973
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: heavy solution, had some futuristic ship right there, setic warfare.

974
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: The solution proposed to deal with the immediate problem is

975
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: a poison called Broma di alone, which is currently banned.

976
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: The state has applied for a permit to use the

977
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: poison along the perimeter of crop fields in order to

978
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: get the mouse plague under control. The problem is that

979
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: this poison breaks down very slowly, and lots of different

980
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: animals eat mice, dogs, pigs, poultry, owls, hawks, eagles, and

981
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: murray cod are all chowing down on the plentiful road

982
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: and lie. If the mice are laced with this poison,

983
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: which the Minister of Agriculture referred to as napalm for mice,

984
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 1: then it will likely end up in the fish as well.

985
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: Local fisheries groups and anglers are coming out against the

986
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: decision and even threatening potential lawsuits. Since murray coott are

987
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: listed as a vulnerable species and subject to federal protections,

988
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: there may be another option. The New South Wales Farmers

989
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: Group has requested the government provides zinc phosphate instead, which

990
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: also kills mice and breaks down within twenty four hours

991
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: of consumption. It would be less effective at getting rid

992
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: of the mice, but also pose less of a threat

993
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: to the food chain. I don't actually have a clear

994
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: takeaway on this one. Like a mouse playing sounds awful,

995
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 1: like as you saying it, as as a man who's

996
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: I've dealt with some mice. I eventually had to call

997
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: in professionals because I would get him in my basement,

998
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: like they'd run around the drop ceiling in my finished basement,

999
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: and like one or two mice is fun, like you

1000
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: like you set the peanut butter and you sit down

1001
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: there and like hear him to and I'm like, yeah, gosh, yeah,

1002
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. But I hate I

1003
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: hate mice in the home. So this if you look

1004
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: at the back Dude, you look at some of the video, like, well,

1005
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: I saw something on TikTok and there was like some

1006
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: kind of farm conveyor just like it was like a

1007
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: waterfall of mice coming off the top of a conveyor

1008
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: directly into a burning barrel. Like they like it was

1009
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: it was crazy. It's like, it's not funny, but it

1010
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: is like it's literally like one of those farms that

1011
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: like moves fruit and grain, and it was just like

1012
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: dumping like a niagara falls of mice in the in

1013
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: the like burning napalm. It all looks awful like I

1014
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: would I would absolutely hate to be living in the

1015
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 1: midst of that. But I'm also I'm rooting for the

1016
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: Murray God, like they're finally and they're finally catching a break.

1017
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: You know, dude, I hear you, Like you know what.

1018
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: This harkens me back to remember that that story many

1019
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: moons ago about how they realized like shark fins or

1020
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: sharks could like make COVID vaccine faster, and there was

1021
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: like there's organizations that were like, play don't hurt the sharks,

1022
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: but everybody is so over the COVID that it's like

1023
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: I don't care about the sharks right now, make the vaccine.

1024
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: That's what's gonna that could easily happen here because I

1025
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: get it. On the Murray Cod, that's great, But in

1026
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: the overall scheme, that's like two guys fighting against neighborhood

1027
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: after neighborhood going just God, please get rid of these

1028
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: mice somehow, because that's brutal, man. And then even still,

1029
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: no matter how you kill them, then you still a

1030
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: whole bunch of dead mice. They don't just like blow away.

1031
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: So it's just it's like a bad it's just a bad,

1032
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: bad scenario, man. Yeah. Yeah, the whole thing is is

1033
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: pretty nasty. And and yeah, like I said, there's that

1034
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: little glimmer in the middle, like the Murray Card are

1035
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: doing great, but we're overrun with a vermin. Yeah, I'll root,

1036
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: I'll root for the Cod with you. But if any

1037
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: we have we don't, we have some. We have some

1038
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: fans down under those that do. And like I'm, I'm

1039
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise if I hear someone that are just like

1040
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: f the Murray Cod. Right now, dude, I can't have

1041
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: I can't have food in my home. Okay, They're in everything,

1042
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: So we feel for you. Guys. Uh, Phil, you can

1043
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: go down and do a mice crusade, kill some mice. Um.

1044
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: You can shoot a grouper in the head, maybe in

1045
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: the farta pretty soon catch a mean mouth ring the doorbell.

1046
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: We'll we'll hear from Phil see who won this week,

1047
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: and then right after that we'll talk about another bass

1048
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: that's kind of an oddball in finn clips. Miles. If

1049
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: you feel your phone blowing up right now, it's because

1050
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: I just sent you two thousand push notifications letting you

1051
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: know that you're the winner this week. Whether it's not

1052
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: letting a disheveled doc managers sleep for days on end,

1053
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: or deciding that the name of a state of the

1054
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: art research boat should be Boatie mcboat face. It's truly

1055
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: incredible what can be accomplished when a bunch of random

1056
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: strangers come together on the Internet with a common goal

1057
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: in mind. The Internet What a magical place where I

1058
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: go to have only positive experiences with absolutely no detrimental

1059
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: effects on mental health or social skills. Did you know

1060
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: that there are claw game machines in Japan that you

1061
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: can control from anywhere in the world. You just you

1062
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: pay money and you can control the claw that's in

1063
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: Japan and I'm in Montana. And then after you win

1064
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: the stuff, they send it to you and I never

1065
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: have to leave my house. I can do this forever, forever, forever.

1066
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: Today we're talking bass, not America's bug eyed obsession, the

1067
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: large mouth or the less appreciated but far more interesting cousin,

1068
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: the small mouth either. No, we're going to talk about

1069
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: a different type of black bass, one that's a hot

1070
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: topic these days if you pay attention to fisheries management circles.

1071
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: Spotted bass or spots range from East Texas across the

1072
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: Golf Coast to the Florida Panhandle. They're also native throughout

1073
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: the Ohio River basin and the central and lower Mississippi

1074
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: River basin. The colloquial term spotted bass actually refers to

1075
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: two separate but nearly indistinguishable species, one of which is

1076
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: causing a whole lot of problems for their more popular relatives,

1077
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: but we'll get to that in a minute. In eighteen hundred,

1078
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: the French naturalist Bernard Germaine la Sepede described and named

1079
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: both large mouth and smallmouth bass. Though he'd never actually

1080
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 1: seen a live specimen, he did get a skin mount

1081
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: of a smallmouth and the mail with the dorsal fin

1082
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: partially broken off, though, which is how smallmouth bass became

1083
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: known as Micropterus dolomu. Micropterus means small fin, and if

1084
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: you remember episode twenty seven where we asked Mandy Yurick

1085
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: about smallmouth history, you already know about the dolomu part.

1086
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: Dolo might give my name and mother my name. A

1087
00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: couple of decades later, another Frenchman, Constantine rough Nesque, was

1088
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: the first scientist who recognize spotted bass as a separate species,

1089
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: but he was kind of an eccentric outcast, so his theory,

1090
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: though correct, was ignored for another hundred years or so.

1091
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: If you're wondering why French naturalists played such a big

1092
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: role in identifying North American fish, you gotta remember the

1093
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: time period. The US had recently parted ways with the British,

1094
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: so the French were our closest allies, mainly because the

1095
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: French can't resist any opportunity to irritate the Brits. The

1096
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: spotted bass was officially recognized in n when Michigan theologist Dr.

1097
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: Carl Hubbs definitively proved them to be a distinct population

1098
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: and not just a subspecies of small mouth. He originally

1099
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: named them Kentucky bass, mistakenly believing that they only existed

1100
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: in that state. Spotted bass kind of looked like a

1101
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: cross between a large mouth and a small mouth. They're

1102
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: colored like a large mouth, but their jaws don't extend

1103
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: behind their eyes like small mouth. Spots have a shallow

1104
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: notch in their dorsal fins, where as large mouth have

1105
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: a deeper, more pronounced notch. Spots also have rows of

1106
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: relatively distinct horizontal spots below their lateral line, hence the

1107
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: name spotted bass. From the time of their official discovery,

1108
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: up till the mid nineteen eighties or so, spots weren't

1109
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: much of a topic of conversation. They were around, and

1110
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: people caught plenty of them, but they weren't all that exciting.

1111
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: Spots generally don't get as big as either large mouth

1112
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: or small mouth, so there was something of an afterthought.

1113
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: But in California fisheries, biologists were experimenting with planting different

1114
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: strains of bass in their relatively new reservoir systems to

1115
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: feed on all the other fish they had introduced there.

1116
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: Spotted bass were transported from Louis Lake in Alabama and

1117
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: put in Paris Lake, California Department of Fishing Games specifically

1118
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: chose individuals from Louis Lake because the spotted bass there

1119
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: had a tendency to grow larger than other populations. Less

1120
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: than a decade later, Paris Lake was pumping out record

1121
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: spots nearly every season. That population was used to stock

1122
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: other California lakes, where the fish continued to grow to

1123
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: impressive proportions big enough to get bass anglers fired up.

1124
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: In Bullard's Bar Reservoir kicked out the current world record,

1125
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: which weighed in at eleven pounds four ounces. Fisheries and

1126
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: bucket biologists to like thought they were onto something. Spots

1127
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: have a reputation as pretty indiscriminate feeders, making them willing

1128
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: targets even when other bassar locked up. When introduced into

1129
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: new systems out west, the first few generations got massive fast,

1130
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: so soon anglers started bringing spots from places that were

1131
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: known to produce larger specimens, primarily in Alabama and northern Georgia,

1132
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: to their home waters. These anglers thought they were doing

1133
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: their lakes and themselves a favor, bringing in larger versions

1134
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: of the stunted spots to beef up their bycatch. Ironically,

1135
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: those imports are now decimating the most hallowed sport fish

1136
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: in some places. In two thousand eight, searchers discovered that

1137
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:06,439
Speaker 1: Alabama spotted bass are actually a completely different fish from

1138
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: the originally described Kentucky spotted bass. Though the two are

1139
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: identical to the naked eye, the only way to tell

1140
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: them apart is to count the poured scales in a

1141
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: fish's ladder line with a magnifying glass. If it has

1142
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: seventy or fewer, it's a Kentucky spot. If it has

1143
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: seventy one or more, it's an Alabama bass. Alabama bass

1144
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: create problems for both smallmouth and large mouth, which Kentucky

1145
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: spotted bass generally don't. Steve Salmons, an Auburn Fisheries scientists

1146
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: who specializes in black back species, describes them this way.

1147
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: Alabama bass are an extremely adaptable, aggressive fish that tend

1148
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: to be able to outcompete or hybridize with almost any

1149
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: other bass species they come in contact with. Georgia, East Tennessee,

1150
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: and North Carolina bass fisheries have been hit particularly hard

1151
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: in the past decade, where some world class smalmouth and

1152
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: large mouth fisheries have seen signal eificant declients. In some

1153
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: North Carolina bass lakes, anglers now report catching three Alabama

1154
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: bass for every one large mouth or small mouth Bill. Frasier,

1155
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: conservation director for the North Carolina b Ass Nation, was

1156
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: quoted as saying we had national class fisheries rivaled only

1157
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: by Texas and Florida. Now they are ruined to make

1158
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: things worse. While the Alabama bass and California reservoirs grew

1159
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: to trophy size, it appears that in many systems where

1160
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: other bass are already present, introduced Alabama spots don't get

1161
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: much larger than Kentucky spots. This is yet another reminder

1162
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: that bucket biology is a bad idea. Moving fish between

1163
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: waters is illegal, but more importantly, it can backfire. I

1164
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: realize anglers who do this usually think they're doing themselves

1165
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: and other people of favor, but most North Carolina bass

1166
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: anglers aren't feeling too appreciative. The good news, however, is

1167
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: it spotted bass are both plentiful and tasty, and if

1168
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: anglers in the nose you cutting up a limit of

1169
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: spots at the boat ram, they'll probably give you a

1170
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: nod of approval, Whereas if you do the same thing

1171
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: with a pile of large mouth or Smalley's, you might

1172
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: get your trailer tires slashed. So I'll tell you what, man,

1173
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: many people over the years have tried to lure me

1174
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: into the spotted bass game. And it's not that I

1175
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: don't want to do it. I just haven't gotten around

1176
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: to it. But I've been tipped off to these as

1177
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: like seasonal river runs for them in the South and

1178
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: mid Atlantic that sound really awesome, really amazing. I also

1179
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: get photos from people now and again and they're like,

1180
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: did I just catch a large mouth croppy hybrid? And

1181
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: I asked where they live, and one hundred percent of

1182
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: the time it's in spotted bass territory. And I'm like, nope,

1183
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: that is just the spotted bass. Yeah, And that's applicable

1184
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: because we actually get a fair number of fish I

1185
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: D requests and I like those. I think those, Yeah, I'll.

1186
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: I have been known to go all in and like

1187
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: call in my friends if I don't instantly recognize them,

1188
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: which I don't, and I will. I don't know always

1189
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: figured out, but I will do the research and see

1190
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: what I can find out, because now I'm just invested. Yeah,

1191
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: me too. I had a listener dm me a fish

1192
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: he caught in California, in San Francisco Delta. No clue

1193
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: what it was, but I spent almost forty minutes trying

1194
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: to figure it out. I took a guess. I said,

1195
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: I think it's this, but if I'm wrong, you know,

1196
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: let me know. And he actually he eventually followed up

1197
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: and I would dude, I was way off, and it

1198
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: was so it was so long ago, this is months ago.

1199
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: I don't even remember what it was. But it was

1200
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: like the blue line, swamp, Gobi loach sucker or something.

1201
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: I I know, I know what you're talking about, cause

1202
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: he sent that to me too. It was a long

1203
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: time ago because I also I did it incorrectly and

1204
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: he followed up It's like, nope, it's this. So both

1205
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: of us lost some credibility with with whoever that was.

1206
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: But more recently I got one from uh Nick squeally

1207
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: I think, let's how he says his name, squalia And

1208
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: it turned out to be a blue head chub with

1209
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: these badass spikes coming up. Yeah, also known as tubercles

1210
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: uh And you can see that photo on my Instagram.

1211
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: But the point it is, we really do like to

1212
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: help out and and We're like, well, no, we can't

1213
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: always help, but when we can, and then when we

1214
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: have time, and Joe is going to close out the

1215
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: show with our end of line center this week by

1216
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: schooling it's up on a fly that's not only falling

1217
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: off of many radars, but often gets misidentified when radars

1218
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: do pick it back up. Well, that's not loud enough.

1219
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: The crease fly was invented by Long Island, New York

1220
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: based captain Joe Blattos in the late nine nineties to

1221
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: imitate peanut bunker, a primary food source of the local stripe,

1222
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: bass and blue fish. And the quote I read online

1223
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: Blados once described the crease fly as a round popper

1224
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: that got run over by a truck, and that's actually

1225
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: a spot on description. Crease flies have a short, sparse tail,

1226
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: usually made of a pinch of synthetic flash material or bucktail,

1227
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: and the body is simply a piece of craft foam

1228
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: that starts out sort of bullet shaped, but as then

1229
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: folded over around the hook shank and glued together to

1230
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: create the profile of a bait fish. Add some eyes,

1231
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: maybe get creative with some magic markers, Slather the foam

1232
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: in apoxy, and you've got a crease fly. But the

1233
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: thing is, you probably don't got a crease fly, because

1234
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: this pattern manages to be both a staple or completely

1235
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 1: absent in fly boxes depending on who you talk to.

1236
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: If you're a guide in the wool salty fly guy

1237
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: that fishes the northeast, strong chance you've got a crease

1238
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 1: flyer too. In fact, it might even be as essential

1239
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 1: to you as a cloudser Minnow outside of this area, however,

1240
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: I feel like the issue is that people just aren't

1241
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: sure what to do with one, why they need it,

1242
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: or what it does exactly. A matter of fact, the

1243
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: proper method of fishing a crease fly is often debated

1244
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 1: in fly forums, and in my opinion, there really is

1245
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: no right or wrong answer most people, except that the

1246
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,759
Speaker 1: crease fly is designed primarily to be fished on the surface.

1247
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: What I think throws people off, however, is that they

1248
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: expected to fish like a popper. They try to fish

1249
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: it like a popper, and when it doesn't work like

1250
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: a popper, they cut it off and tie on a popper.

1251
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: Because of the crease flies lightweight, slim profile, and thin head,

1252
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't throw a ton of water, and if you

1253
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: try to overstrip it to make it chill, you'll often

1254
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: find that you just pull it right out of the water.

1255
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 1: The crease fly is about creating a subtler commotion. It

1256
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: gurgles a bit, darts a bit, and if you finesse it,

1257
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: it'll even die of a bit. I've found that to

1258
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: make it work effectively, it's more about wrist twitching than

1259
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: using your whole forearm to work that sucker like a

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Speaker 1: muskie fly. In essence, when fish correctly, the crease fly

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Speaker 1: is what i'd call a near surface fly, constantly causing

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Speaker 1: a general rucus on and just below that salty film.

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Speaker 1: But other keyboard commandos insist that the crease fly was

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Speaker 1: always intended to be a completely subsurface pattern, and they

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Speaker 1: say that what Blottos wanted was for it to be

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Speaker 1: fished on an intermediate sinking line that would form a

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Speaker 1: belly and pull the fly under during the retrieve. Now,

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Speaker 1: without asking Blottos, the truth may never be found. But

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Speaker 1: the real truth is the crease fly catches fish with

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Speaker 1: both presentations, making very very versatile. It's a favorite of

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Speaker 1: mine from mahi mahi as well as stripers, particularly in

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Speaker 1: wide open water with no current and in those scenarios

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Speaker 1: I actually favor the intermediate sinc tip line method, and

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Speaker 1: find that if you can get a crease fly under

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Speaker 1: just a few inches, man, when you hit it, that

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Speaker 1: thing's got a little wiggle, little shimmy, little wobble that

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Speaker 1: those fish just cannot resist. Now, as a river fly,

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Speaker 1: it's not as effective because it takes very little water

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Speaker 1: flow to override the action you're trying to achieve with

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Speaker 1: the rotten line. But I have caught a mess of

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Speaker 1: large mouths on creased flies over the years, barely twitching

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Speaker 1: one across the surface of a flat com pond on

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Speaker 1: a muggy summer evening. Now, perhaps even better than the

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Speaker 1: creased flies ability to catch fish is how simple it

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Speaker 1: is to tie. Furthermore, it gives you a nice, roomy

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Speaker 1: canvas to flex your artistic abilities on. I actually tie

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Speaker 1: them with my kids, often letting them add rainbow colors

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Speaker 1: and scribbles and whatever else they want before sealing them

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Speaker 1: up with a POxy. I've been known to add bluegill patterns,

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Speaker 1: frog colors for bass, fire, tiger patterns for pike, and

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Speaker 1: subtle pinks and purples to mimic salty bait fish. If, however,

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Speaker 1: you just totally suck acid coloring, leave him white, don't

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Speaker 1: get trash just as hard. So that's it for this week.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully we've not left you with questions like should I

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Speaker 1: really be fishing under the power lens? Which you should?

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Speaker 1: And our spotted best actually cooler than small mouths, which

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Speaker 1: they might be? Or can you be metal and be

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Speaker 1: into him radio? Yes you can. Finally, should I buy

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Speaker 1: flies from a local shop instead of off Instagram? Yes

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Speaker 1: you should, man, But while you're on Instagram not looking

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll build a whole show around them around your questions,

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Speaker 1: or maybe we'll make them a regular segment like we

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Speaker 1: originally tried to. Who knows all things are possible, Assuming

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Speaker 1: photos and sales and submissions. Also, if you haven't jumped

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