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Speaker 1: Celebrity Book Club. Who's that knocking at the door. It's

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Speaker 1: all your friends, you filthy horse. Your husband's gone and

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Speaker 1: It's books, it's gossip. I'm shook. It's memoirs. Martini Book Club.

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Speaker 1: Come read it while it's hot. Celebrity Book Club, tell

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Speaker 1: your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. No boys are alloud.

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Speaker 1: what the freak is up? Stephanie Phillips hors Hello, my

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Speaker 1: rodornculas hornculus. It's so good to see you. I know

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Speaker 1: kind of like, this is weird, sketchy. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: and it's this movie about her, like her husband dies

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Speaker 1: like an architecture thriller. Okay, well, speaking of architecture thrillers, yeah, wait,

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Speaker 1: this book is an architecture thriller. I've been reading it

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Speaker 1: a half. So the book we read. It's by a

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Speaker 1: little someone that oh maybe you've heard of him. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: Nate Burkis. Hello. His book is called The Matter and Honey,

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Speaker 1: it's a tome. Okay, this is a coffee table book.

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Speaker 1: And of course I demanded how we reading this book

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Speaker 1: and I had suggested this true Barryware book. But the

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424
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 1: like do this backpack thing. He's like he stops at

425
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: an orphanage and to like get out to give them presents,

426
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: and then he stops himself and I was like, no,

427
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that, but he's like, but

428
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: I am going to do this backpack project. So he's

429
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 1: calling himself in and canceling himself. But what's crazy he

430
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: is Fernando, his rip. His partner is like pushes him

431
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: to go on this three week vacation where they like

432
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: go to Cambodia, like go to multiple places, go to cities,

433
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: go to beach towns, and Nate had only ever done

434
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 1: like weekends, like had the BlackBerry on. He's like, you

435
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: need to learn how to unplug. Yeah, and then he

436
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: always wanted to be available to like jump on the

437
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: next freelance job. And then like he actually unplugged and

438
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: it's like wow, the first time you unplug. Soon on

439
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: me like actually so depressing. I mean it was so

440
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: just terrifying where he like they're like like all the

441
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 1: suddy wakes up and like they're being pounded with water

442
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: and he was just like, oh my god, and like

443
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,239
Speaker 1: all I could think of was like, okay, just like

444
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: calm down until you can get above water against stick

445
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: another breath because it's gonna pull you under. And it

446
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: did remind me of my near death experience on Nantucket

447
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: two summers ago, almost drowning, where I was just like

448
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: being slammed by the water and I was like, oh

449
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 1: my god, like I'm having lesson less time to come

450
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,479
Speaker 1: up for air. And then the fact that they found

451
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: each other like in this crazy swirling water that's moving

452
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: forty miles an hour, they found each other again. There's

453
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 1: like cows and like steel fences and people and like

454
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: like everything is like moving this crazy swirl of water,

455
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: and then they're like clinging to this telephone pole and

456
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: they like are holding each other's arms and then all

457
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: of a sudden they get like knocked again and like

458
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: get pulled at part, and he's like that's the last

459
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: time I ever saw him, and then like he manages

460
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: to cling to some like chimney on a roof somewhere,

461
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: and then he just never finds it. I mean I've

462
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: always said it since I was a young child. Tsunami's

463
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: are my worst fear. Wow. Okay, so this hit home

464
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: for me and I too growing up in Cambridge. It's stuff. Finally,

465
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: you're so tied from clueless though about this one time

466
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: you got caught in a rip current. But I was

467
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 1: in it. But I was that mean? I did have

468
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: it was there, it was on the beach. It wasn't

469
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't specifically afraid of like a Southeast Asian weather

470
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: like event. I remember I got caught in a rip

471
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: current when we were in the Hampton. So we snuck

472
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: into a beach, you know, our twenties, and my top

473
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,959
Speaker 1: came off and then we got yelled at and got

474
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: kicked out of the beach. But were you fearing for

475
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: your life? Yeah? I was like gasping and oh fuck. Yeah.

476
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: And you thought, oh it's so funny, Lily looks crazy

477
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 1: and topless. Yes, were you? Were you saying help? I

478
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: wasn't like, it wasn't likely you were saying help, and

479
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: I was like not helping. Well, I finally like I

480
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 1: don't think there was a way for you to help.

481
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: It's like I found my way out. The point is

482
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: that's behind is I'm so I me suck and I'm

483
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: sorry you had that experience, and I want you to

484
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: reclaim the water because the beach is a beautiful thing.

485
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: If I were him, like, I would be so fucking

486
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: terrified of like beaches and water and that kind of ship.

487
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: One of the most insane things about this book is

488
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: it's you know. And I went home and I got

489
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 1: in bed for three weeks, you know, and all I

490
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: had was like and then the woven photographs. No, we

491
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: went Oprah crawled. I did bed with him, and Oprah

492
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 1: crawled into bed in his in his first Chicago apartment

493
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: that he like bought, and Reynauld was like persuaded by

494
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: his real estate friend and he was being so like

495
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: it has amazing bones, and like I took out the

496
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: walls and put in other walls and so his parents

497
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: are there. But yeah, then hold on. She crawled into

498
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: bed beside me and listened while I cried. I kept

499
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: asking why. It was not a theoretical question. I needed

500
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: something to start making sense. She was quiet for a

501
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: long time, then finally spoke. I've always believed that when

502
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: the soul gets what it came to get, it goes wow,

503
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: and then he goes In that moment, I felt I

504
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: understood what Fernando had come to get home. So it

505
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: was like Fernando was finally happy, he finally found his

506
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: home with Nate and so his soul could depart. So

507
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's so Obra, but I kind of hate that.

508
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: It's like his soul wanted his boyfriend to go on

509
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: vacation and he was like, my work here is done. Yeah,

510
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: I can now pass. I was gonna say. Also, the

511
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: just the juxtaposition of just like so Ober gets in

512
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: bed with him and then it's just like I met

513
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: Judy like this, and then it just goes into twelve

514
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: people's houses that he's done people's houses. Yeah, I mean

515
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: he is gay. And ultimately this book is about lamps.

516
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: I mean. Also, I just read this the level of Buddha,

517
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: and this book, this might be the most like deeply

518
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: Buddha book. It's almost so Buddha. It's not Buddha. It's

519
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: so good. It's okay. There are Buddhas, there are bulls,

520
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: there are so many like so many like shallow East

521
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: Asian bulls and so many things like this actually is

522
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: a tradition from this ancient Japanese tribe. It's like everything

523
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: is some like, but it's also yeah, it's very it's

524
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 1: also so drift wood, and it's like every single person

525
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: he's like, it's actually a piece of beach glass that

526
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: when I was walking with my husband came up and

527
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: we said, this is the beach glass that defined our marriage.

528
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 1: And that beach glass sits on a mantle that's reclaimed

529
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,479
Speaker 1: from a fireplace that I bought in China. But the

530
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: fireplace is actually French. Like this is just a random

531
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: page I just opened to over a decadel that French.

532
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: He and I have ducked in and out of who

533
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: knows how many antique marts and flea markets from Milan

534
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: to Mexico. Like, as you said, drink every time there's

535
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: a flea market. I cannot remember ever seeing Brian buy anything.

536
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm the guy you glare at it. He attempts to

537
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: stuff the Moroccan side table under his airplane seat. It

538
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: never ends with this, It never ends with the flea market.

539
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: He's like the best friend someone you go to flea

540
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: markets with. And you don't reach for the same thing.

541
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: This is like the every like white person owns in

542
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: Buddhasttu philosophy is basically this. I like to find stuff

543
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: and then put it in a more worshipful setting, which

544
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: means that in his guest room a small Asian painting.

545
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: He founded a Chinese flea market in Manhattan, and which

546
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: he happily dismisses us. A piece of junk has been

547
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: done up in a new black frame with a generous

548
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: silk mat, and it's on its way to dominate in

549
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: an entire wall, on its way to dominate all on

550
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: its way. The people all also are such an amazing range.

551
00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: So it's Holly Robinson, Pete's mom. Yeah, that was a

552
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: real curveball. Same and the guy who the Happiness Guy

553
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: based on Wait and by the way, you know, I

554
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: saw that movie alone in Chicago callback Chicago during college

555
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: because it was like the middle of the day and

556
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: I feel like I had a weird breaking classes and

557
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm just gonna sneak into pursuit of happiness.

558
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: Sobbed of course throughout the movie. Wow, definitely not on

559
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: a plane pursuit of happiness. The real guy it's based

560
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: on amazing film check Out. It's so super inspirational, so

561
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: he gets him like, of course this guy has like

562
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: more of a raw like loft, but he wants it

563
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: to make it much more homey, and they get into

564
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: this huge fight about this huge leather couch because obviously

565
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: he's just like a big straight man who wants his

566
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: huge other couch. To me, this was such a red

567
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: flag because like he actually that couch is actually nice

568
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: and it's very deep, and the fact that Nate was

569
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: like against like the depth of the couch, like to me,

570
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: it's like he is still this weird, like fancy gay

571
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: interior designer who likes so much like Hinsey stuff and

572
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: like so much Shinwasri and so much overstuffed couches, but

573
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: like doesn't necessarily know why depth is the most important

574
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: thing in a couch, and he's still just like a

575
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: lot of the couches in this book are like not

576
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: that deep and are kind of shallow, and like the

577
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: one guy who wants this deep other couch, he's like

578
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: he tried to fight him on it, yeah, and then

579
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: he's like and I finally got it, like and it

580
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: does go with everything else to be picked and like,

581
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: we have all these amazing framed photos of like him

582
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 1: with the Obama's and like and he loves watching college football.

583
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: But it's like it seems like a chic older man's

584
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: leather couch. Definitely a ch couch. I love that couch.

585
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: And yes, he did a great job of designing around

586
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: it with the dark colors, like the blacks. You know,

587
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: it's it's masculine but refined. He also defines and I

588
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: feel like we talk about this a lot, just like

589
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: interior designer challenge. Don't put a weird chair in a

590
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: corner or against a wall that no one will ever

591
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: sit in. What they're obsessed with doing is creating these

592
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: little like misson sense moment, these vignettes. Sorry but I

593
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: love vignette too, But it's like, if the vignette has

594
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: no purpose, if no one is ever going to sit

595
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: in the chair, why is the chair also there? Says

596
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: like there are some shots in this book, like I

597
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: wrote one down later in Fabiola Bassacola, who we need

598
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: to get to. Yeah, where there's a shot where there's

599
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: like I don't know, there's like ninety chairs in one

600
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: It's like and I saw this on a gay. I'll

601
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: call out this gay without naming them, but like a

602
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: gay I know who like they are like interior designers,

603
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: like work in design kind of like and I saw

604
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 1: an inside side of their house and it was like,

605
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, there was ninety chairs in the apartment

606
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: and it's just like like between like the couch and

607
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: the love seat and the bench and the other chair

608
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: and the side chair and like the dining chair and

609
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: then the desk, and it's like all in the same room.

610
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: It's just like chill out with the eighteen different forms

611
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: of seating in one space. And I think why people

612
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: end up going so chair and vignette, because like it

613
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: can look chic. And I think if you are, say again,

614
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: at a flea market, whether you're in South Florida or

615
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: connectict I also was like googling because he would reference

616
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: sometimes these vintage warehouses in Stratford, Connecticut or like Hollywood, Florida,

617
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, we do need to go

618
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: to this randomwahouse. We do need to get there. Well

619
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: when we have more space to decorate. I mean, I

620
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: feel like my hunt right now is as we talked about,

621
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: is possibly a sexual or I do want a diner

622
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: banquet for my kitchen. But you're going to find a

623
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: chair more. At these flea markets vintage stores, you can

624
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: pick up, you know, an old stool, and he's always

625
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: like getting an old stool for someone and then covering

626
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: it in a vintage corduroy. So he the woman, his

627
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: friend Barry, who's like really into shells and she loves

628
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: the beat. Oh yeah. When he describes her as a

629
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: hunter gatherer, get ready for it. She's a hunter gatherer,

630
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: one of those diehard souls who wakes up at dawn

631
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: in a sub zero Chicago morning, grabs a hot cup

632
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: of coffee Wooly Mittens, and haunts the outdoor flea markets.

633
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: He also is when he talks about his producer that

634
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: moved to New York and who was so like an

635
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: amazing producer. And he's like, look, when I'm interviewing someone,

636
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to know your resume. I know? Can

637
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: we laugh while eating a cobb salad at three am,

638
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: strung out from no sleep, Bad Chinese friend. And he's

639
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: always taking his friends. This one couple who's like a

640
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: GQ editor at large and the wife is like the

641
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: head brand managemur at the Guilt Group. Manage the manage

642
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: Murcer too excited brand strategist for the Guilt Group, which

643
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: is so like twenty ten the Guilt group anyway, and

644
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: he's like, so I took them to a lowery side

645
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: affordable vintage shop where they got an Italian leather mid

646
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: century couch like this. Credenza was so freaked out to

647
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: pull the trigger on like that many items that he

648
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: was terrified. Wait, okay, that couple was psycho. That's the

649
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: couple that they work at one desk with their laptops touching, yes,

650
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: and he and his hated he and his Italian leather

651
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: chair and her and her like more girl boss chair.

652
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: I Like that to me was horror. I mean, he

653
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: ghetto was so adorable that they each had like this

654
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 1: chair that reflected their gender on the shared glass desk

655
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: with the laptop touching. And I'm like, the last thing

656
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: I want is my lover's laptop to be touching my laptop.

657
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, get out of my laptop space and the

658
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: laptops like heating each other. I'm just like, no, Like

659
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: I get maybe working in the same room as or

660
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: liver if you're both like typing away on your g

661
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: Q article, but just like at least and be like

662
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: staring at each other's eyes. Well, he made it seem

663
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: like buffies, workaholics, and they come home at night and

664
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: they're still working on the guilt group like emails going

665
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: out in the GQ. More, what I wanted to say

666
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: was that, like, obviously all these Lowrie's Side and East

667
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: Village of vintage shops that he keeps on mentioning like

668
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: are not affordable. I imagine, like I feel like he's

669
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: referencing a vintage Italian leather couch for four thousand as affordable, right,

670
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: and he's like, can you believe it's not seventeen thousand?

671
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeahs verse, I guess like going to like twenty second

672
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: and second and buying like things straight from Italy. But

673
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 1: then some of the plays in twenty second a second,

674
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean you're not I don't know. I mean a

675
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: couch under two thousand dollars like is impossible to find

676
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: unless you're going to Ikea. That's true. So a four

677
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: K leather Italian couch short, it is affordable, and like

678
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: leather forget about it is. He makes it seem like

679
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: it's you're getting away with like absolute murder. Okay, let's

680
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: talk about Fabula Becassa. So one of the clients is

681
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: the girl Fabula Becassa, and I'm flipping through this book,

682
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: you know, tears streaming down my face, and then I

683
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: get to this woman and I was just like something

684
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: went off and I was just like, I was like, wait,

685
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: doesn't know we know her? I know this name after

686
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: just seeing like the Pursuit of Happiness guy and like

687
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: Holly Robinson, Pete's mom. And then it's like Fabula Beracossa

688
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: and he's just like this fabulous, like Italian socialite. And

689
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: then I'm listen like, I mean, I don't know if

690
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: this person I've met, but it's definitely a person I've

691
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: seen Instagram with people we know, Right, do you have

692
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: any You can't really place her to me other than

693
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: saying that we do kind of know her. I feel

694
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: like I saw her hanging out with Janette Hayes. Okay,

695
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: and like Adam Baby friend Chicago native. Yeah, because I

696
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: see another person that we know from Chicago Art school

697
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: world in this like collage. He said, bring back collages.

698
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: And it's like all these photos of her like around

699
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: New York and like being in New York gal anyway,

700
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: So she's kind of a downtown girl, or maybe like

701
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: a former downtown girl. At this point, I think she's

702
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: former downtown. I want to say, I feel like she's

703
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: kind of Hampton's but like probably has this like NYC

704
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: apartment that like she can collage in. Okay, this this

705
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: quote from her from Fabiola. I'm not the sort of

706
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: person who buys the latest L shaped couch or who

707
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: spends her days leafing through a cutting edge design magazine.

708
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm not on this booking like L shaped

709
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: sheep train of all the rescue. I'm like, what is

710
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: the la Maybe she's talking about like the Floyd or something.

711
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah about like our startup couches or

712
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: joy Birds are Floyd's skeen Floyd. I mean we're both

713
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: so joy Bird. I guess so because we're fucking sheep.

714
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: We're literally sheep. We're not hiring Nate Burkas to get

715
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: us a six thousand dollars couch. That's a fucking steel.

716
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: But then the woman in Marfa, Okay, well, well I

717
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: was gonna now I've given it away, but I was

718
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: gonna say, can you guess at my favorite house? Oh,

719
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it's the Marfa woman because it's

720
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: the most like industrial minimalist, but then it's also so you,

721
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: because it's just like at the end of the day,

722
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: you are choosy, like study abroad, gay, and like he

723
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: does make her like a sign that says like we

724
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: love all the tacos on it. Okay, I would never

725
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: give a sink that says all the tacos on it.

726
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: Like that was the one thing where I saw that

727
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, this is disgusting, but then

728
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: I loved how like Japanese and modern minimalist that I

729
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: just I know you wouldn't, but it does feel like

730
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: you have like that could be your old life, and

731
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: like you've gotten all these insane steel steal lamps and

732
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: like at one point, I don't know who has it,

733
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: but they're like, oh no, wait, sorry, it says make

734
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: tacos not above a farm sink. So insane in Marfa

735
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: to just say make tacos not worm of control. It's like,

736
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: we get it. You live in there are the brave

737
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: decision to be like rich and like a former artist

738
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: and live in this like steel house. Okay. So Fabriola

739
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: is definitely like within the like Adrina Chrome, like DNC Hillary,

740
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: like circa producer. Meg just sent us her Instagram and

741
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: she's at some event with like Nancy Pelosi is speaking

742
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: Dianev and first of her is like being honored. Oh wait,

743
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: this is very just like we are women. I have

744
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: this quote of Fabriola, which is she's not being so Buddha,

745
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: but she is just being so like general bowls everywhere.

746
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: The only problem is Fabulous says, is that when you

747
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: actually place anything in the bowl, like flowers, the glass

748
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: hands are concealed. Sometimes I'll put a couple of green

749
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: Eminem's in there, she says, with a laugh. I feel

750
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: like gets so insane rich person to be like, wouldn't

751
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: it be ridiculous if I put three m and ms

752
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: in this glass bowl, Like isn't that so old school?

753
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: Because she wants to be able to because the bowl

754
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: is like two hands holding each other, and she's like,

755
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: she wants to be able to see the fact that

756
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: it's hands, and if the bowls full, then you can

757
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: appreciate the hilarious design choice of it being hands. This

758
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: photo is exactly what I'm talking about in terms of

759
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: the insanity of seating. So this is Fabuola Rakosa's apartment.

760
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: And we've got like a big like Shinwasurie armless like

761
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: She's chair. We've got a love seat that's like a

762
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 1: dark like pinstripe love sheet. We've got three red leather

763
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: bar stools. We've got six like wooden kitchen chairs. We

764
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: have another like Shinwasurie covered banquette seating. Then we have

765
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: like another like cookie like elephant print like separate sitting chair.

766
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: It's like this is all in one photo in one room.

767
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: I mean, it's madness. When you're rich, you've got to

768
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: fill up the space, I guess, but maybe you actually

769
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: don't need to fill up the space and have it

770
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: be so credit. She also has that heinous lamp that

771
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: I hate. That's the like tree lamp that's like so

772
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: west down half the ship in here, I will say

773
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: it looks really west Elm. And there's one where he

774
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: gives it away and he's just like and that mirror

775
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: is actually from west Elm. Well I liked when he

776
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 1: is like, and those curtains that's from Target. And yeah,

777
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: sometimes that blanket it's from West Elm. Okay. Then there's

778
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: the girl whose style is just like barn wedding that

779
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: insane like blogger girl and she just lives in that

780
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: and her blog is called like She's Shanties or something

781
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, and the whole house is everything is

782
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: just white gauze and like white ship lap wood and

783
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 1: like white photo albums, like all facing the same direction.

784
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: Like it's so very friend of the pod sim Rose.

785
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: And I guess like with her insane tiny cabin and

786
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: it's like her whole thing is that she grew up

787
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: homeless and so this is her like really reclaiming a home.

788
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: But it's like a crazy mountain. What's her name on

789
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: chell on selling Sunset. Well, it's also very pursuit of happiness.

790
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: So you're so annoying. Before just before we wrap this up,

791
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: I do want can I just say something in confidence? Yeah,

792
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: I fucking hate mirrored dressers. Oh my god, thank you

793
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: for saying that. That to me is the most like

794
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: pre Girl Boss west Elm thing. It's it's so ugly

795
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: and crazy and people think it's art deco. No, it's

796
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: not art deco. It's like so tacky and crazy. It

797
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: makes your bedroom look crazy chaotic. It like reflects like

798
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of like any possible, like master or

799
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: anything that's out of place where it's gonna like show

800
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: up in the in the crazy dresser, and it's just

801
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: looking back at you with these like haunted eyes that

802
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 1: are all the little like pegs to open the jors.

803
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: It's psychoed. It's like, unlast it's actually this crazy thing

804
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: from the twenties, but they're never not They are more

805
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: like West Elm. It's just like it's honestly, it's I

806
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 1: feel like I'm at a strip club when I see

807
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: thank you. Well, now you're sounding like Nate Burgers' mom. Okay,

808
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: a few quick things before we get into segments one.

809
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: It's insane because the book ends by him to imote

810
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: his apartment and how he decants one decants eggs, and

811
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: he basically moves into the apartment with his boyfriend. That

812
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: sounds like Carrie's apartment in at just like that. It's

813
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: like a big modern windows looking over the Hudson like

814
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: Full Eleventh's. Actually it's in that Jean Nouvelle building, of course,

815
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, as like every modern celebrity loves. That's right

816
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: north of the IC building, the Barry on the west side.

817
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: It's like by the Whitney and like and it's yeah,

818
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: and it's just like so modern and it is so

819
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: Carrie being like where it like where am i I'm floating?

820
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: Like where am I um floating? So then after that,

821
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: it sounds like he moves to Chelsea and he's like,

822
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm his new Latin boyfriend, Carlos, right, and then I

823
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: googled him. So they're broken up. He is now married

824
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: to someone else and they have a daughter named Poppy. Wait,

825
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: Carlos is over Carlos. I mean if I were Carlos,

826
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: I would break up with him reading this book because

827
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: it's all about Fernando and Carlos is barely mentioned, and

828
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: it's just like and he's like and then in this home,

829
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: like here's all these like this close that belonged to

830
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: Fernando and he's like the SCons that belonged to Fernando

831
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: and like, I'm Carlos, and it's like, yes, obviously he

832
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: needs to honor Fernando, but it really is like clearly

833
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: like the boyfriend he needed to get over Fernandos. Like

834
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: and in a bowl I found at a thrift store

835
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: in Florida, of all places, sits one of Carlos's like

836
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: combs my a matchbook from Fernando's aunt's restaurant, like, and

837
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: he's like, and they're the three of us set all together.

838
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: And now he has like such a more like insane

839
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: chiseled white looking it's a it's a chiseled white twink

840
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: like younger basically a younger version of himself, like Jeremiah

841
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Jeremiah Brent. That is the most like insane game name.

842
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: Also he says it, He's like, I'm not the typeboyfriend

843
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: that like comes home and says like, how's your days?

844
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: Like I come home. Children's names Oscar with a K,

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Speaker 1: Michael Brent, Oscar, Michael Brent, Gus, Oscar, Jeremiah, Jeremiah Poppy, Oscar,

846
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Speaker 1: Michael Brent Parkers. Well, the fag atrociousness of that family,

847
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 1: but good for them and all of their interior design works. No, literally,

848
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: he's being so Carrie here. I've always been drawn to

849
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: the energy of New York City, the people that you

850
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: know exactly where you stand within seconds of saying hello.

851
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: You're never more than a twenty two minute subway ride

852
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: from dim summer top us. Okay, Also quick sidebar before

853
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: we go, Doctor Ruth is my dad turtles he talks

854
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: so yet definitely because and it's turtles because she's like

855
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: a Holocaust survivor, and so the turtle is a symbol

856
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: of like Jewish survival because it has its home when

857
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: it's back, which is not really my dad's. It also

858
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: sounds like doctor Ruth was the most challenging, but obviously

859
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: he was obsessed with it and being like, I honor you,

860
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: but he was just like she wouldn't let me get

861
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: rid of anything, and like she elected board games and turtles. Yeah,

862
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: she's a hoarder. Parents. The segment segment what does she wear?

863
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: How does she eat? What does she live? Where does

864
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: she live? Um? Okay, uh what does she wear? What

865
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: does she wear? He's so into your designer it's like

866
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: Stan Smith, really good faded pair of seven jeans and

867
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: like a J Crew sweatshirt. I think he's a little

868
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: bit more Levi's straight, like five elevens and like Levi's

869
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: tea and then like full Levi's no, and then like

870
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: a like a like a button down from like ragon

871
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: Bone or like some store that's called Yes, it's a

872
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 1: really nice ragon Bone. But he's it's in that designer style.

873
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: I think it's like a really good basics Yeah, but

874
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: definitely nothing oversized ever, everything is pretty fitted. Yeah. I

875
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: guess I was saying with the jeans like, it's not

876
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: they're not like skin tight where I think Jeremiah probably

877
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: wear skin tight jeans. Yeah, that's why I said five

878
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: elevens right, which, but you're not skin tight, they're not

879
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: skin tights. True. That was that was my classic go

880
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: to for quite a while. What happened I went a

881
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: little more dad fit. I was like, let's go a

882
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: little bit back here, dad. Yeah, you total dad in

883
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: nineties anyone, I'm sorry, but our dad's had the best

884
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: fucking style, Like no one's ready to talk about it.

885
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: Like I'll come out and say, my dad's a style iconic.

886
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: I love fucking rating his closet when I'm home. Okay,

887
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: hell yahs. What's up with my parents? Like not knowing

888
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: the WiFi pass it? I mean, come on, guys, Like, well, dude,

889
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 1: this book was is also so that snl skit where

890
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: they talking about going home for Thanksgiving and that whole

891
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: thing about bowls and have parents have bowls everywhere? Parents

892
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: have bowls everywhere? Yeah? I mean yeah, designers are just

893
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: like bulls. What made me I feel like I need

894
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: to reconsider in my life when I'm like aut a

895
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: flea market as I love to do. Is like I

896
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: feel like I do need to be more searching for

897
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 1: like an edge of a fireplace that can be turned

898
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: into a cheeseboard. Yes, you need to think about repurposing

899
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: objects more and have that imagination that only a Chicago

900
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: get to see it. Chicago guy. Okay, what is he eats?

901
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: Eat cops salads? Because Chicago cop, I think Chicago dogs.

902
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: I think he mean he's obviously a citizen of the world,

903
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: is he. Are they being so like, let's do Egyptian tonight. Yeah,

904
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: I think it's Egyptian tonight. I think he's also does

905
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: like totally vegging out. He mentions having friends over for

906
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: pat dye and like why you need a great table,

907
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: whether it's to work on or to have that portion control.

908
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: I feel although I kind of get the sense, I'll

909
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: just say it that he's the top. Yeah, he's off

910
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: on the top of Jeremiah, and so I think that

911
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: means that he is a little bit more like having

912
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: a little bit more pod tie. Maybe it's okay with

913
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: yeah pod tie, and maybe he's getting a little bit

914
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: of a wasteline and that's okay because he's the top.

915
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: And I think in this Chicago way, like he's like

916
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: I love Deep Dish, it's my hometown. But his portiontrol

917
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: like has like one slice and it's like yes, and

918
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: then like puts it down. It's like that's the one slice.

919
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: And he's having a burger and then like wait paying

920
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: for this tomorrow and has like a trainer and he's

921
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 1: like that's a trainer, of course, and they work out

922
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: like five am. Okay, how does he live? I think

923
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: we've covered this um and yeah, how does he live?

924
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: But I guess the question is how does he live

925
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: with Jeremiah? And I think Fernando's things are still around,

926
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: but I think they're like I think the Carlos Carlos

927
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: is comb is probably long. No, that bowl, it's not Jeremiah, Carlos,

928
00:48:54,080 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: Fernando just monuments to every X you know. And Jeremiah

929
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: is like, oh, I love these woven photographs. Yeah. I mean,

930
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: obviously the tsunami has to like play a role because

931
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: that's pretty a key. But now they do have kids,

932
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: so it's like I feel like there's like organic popcorn

933
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: also in there, and like they're cooking with their kids

934
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: and like making like one kernels of organic poet that

935
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: they're like homemaking. Yeah, they're like popping organic on like

936
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: like pop Poppy and Oscar are being like daddy's, Daddy,

937
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: you have organic homemade popcorn again from moving in again

938
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: Daddy's and they're like, yes, little kids, like get up

939
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: on your little Jean Prouvet step stool and fill the

940
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: antique pot that we got at a flea market in

941
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: Florida organic kernels for your popcorn. And he's learned to

942
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: like not be too worried about this like antique bowl

943
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: breaking if poppy, because they can always go to another

944
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: flea mark. He says he's not done with flea markets yet,

945
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: but he wants. He's like, I want to come to

946
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: a point in my life where I just focus on

947
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: the things that I love right, the things that mat

948
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: that matter, which brings us to who are you in

949
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: the book. Obviously we are both Nate in ways, but

950
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: I am his producer friend karn Oh, the one who

951
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: moves to New York because do you go? When I

952
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: was thinking about it, I was like, is Stephen karn

953
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, Stephen, isn't Karine because I just like,

954
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 1: I don't think you're as like, oh, I'm just getting

955
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: this random apartment on thirty seventh because it's close to

956
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: the studio. Okay, but hold on because there is this

957
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: part where because it was she was kind of like bitchy. Yeah,

958
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: like I could say like maybe like she has like

959
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: kind of your sense of humor. And again the Cobb

960
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: salads and he's, oh, he's I think you're like a

961
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: mix of Marpha woman, his mom and Nate. How do

962
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: you relate to karn Okay? Wait, she grew up in

963
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: New York, spending summers and weekends between houses in Montaca Nantucket,

964
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: and then she still visits her mother at the cottage

965
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: in Nantucket whenever she can. So mother living on Nantucket

966
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: really spoke to me, and her great grandmother was a

967
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: copywriter Darline oh mad Men. So I feel like so

968
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: she's kind of this like Madman descendant. I mean, I'm

969
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: not a Madman Desen, and I'm more of a copywriter myself,

970
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: but it's just like that element of just like I'm

971
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: a copywriter gall about town the mom and Nantucket, like

972
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: I don't have time for this, you know, right, like

973
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 1: your style is a little more than Marfa woman, where

974
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: it's like you want these concrete floors and like low couch,

975
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: but you're not Krim's girl boss style with the brass lamps.

976
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: This is discussed and she's so like mirrored. Oh everyone

977
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: in here. Everyone's style is just big coffee table book

978
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: stacked also with a bowl and of oz. Well, that's

979
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's Jonathan about to call him

980
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: Jonathan Adler. Sorry, Nate Burkas, that's right, he's just I mean,

981
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: that's so interior designer. Be like, that's all interior designers

982
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: do is stack big coffee table books. And now I

983
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: have another one, right, just stack? Does that matter? By

984
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: Nate Berkas. Okay, I do, yeah, but my style is

985
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: more marfa chick. Okay. Do you think do you think

986
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: you're in pursuit of happiness guy? Because you want to

987
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: watch football? I think I'm actually more doctor Ruth pursuit

988
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: of happiness. Nate Burcas combo, I'm doctor Ruth because it

989
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: sounds like she's a little like hoarder and she has

990
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 1: like yeah yeah, she can't say no. And I feel

991
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: like I'm Nate Burcas because I'm like always out like

992
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: a Florida flea market and pursuit of happiness guy, because

993
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I do want to like watch TV

994
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: on this big couch. Yeah, okay, one more thing before

995
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 1: we go. I just wanted to make this point, which is, um,

996
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 1: I forget oh this is the Seashell Woman. But where

997
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: he puts the chalkboard on, Oh my god. Yeah, rich

998
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: parents love chalkboards. It's insane, and like that's the one

999
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: thing that is now in every like designed rich parents

1000
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: house is a chalkboard that like the kids can add

1001
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: to and you can like write the shopping list, but

1002
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: a casualtle on. It's casual, it's fun. It activates the space.

1003
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: I used to clean for a couple that was like

1004
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: really trying to have a baby. And I knew this

1005
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: because snooping in their home, I guess um, And it

1006
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: felt very we're trying, and it was kind of like

1007
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: this raw Clinton Hill aloft and they had this big

1008
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: chalkboard where they like wrote the menu of what they're

1009
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: going to have that night on it. That almost felt

1010
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: like even more tense because the baby wasn't there yet,

1011
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: and it's just been like Brussell sprouts. Oh god, and

1012
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: that's part of how parents now I think they can

1013
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: be fun. Is chalkboard culture. It's chalkboards. Just let it

1014
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: go with the chalkboard bs. Okay, Well, this book was

1015
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: a journey. I honestly, it truly surprised me. I give

1016
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: it four out of five sconces. I give it four

1017
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 1: out of five flea markets. It's emotional, but it's fun

1018
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: and it's again Yeah, it's a coffee table book, so

1019
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: you can pick it up. The first part through it

1020
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: good diversity of random asked people that he designed for

1021
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: your where It's like, yes, I will say, I wish

1022
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: there were more diversity of style. I guess yes, and

1023
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: maybe even like a type of home because most of

1024
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: these are apartments. And then there's a one mare for

1025
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: a home. But I wish well, like cabin woman. But

1026
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: I'd want to see like a huge beach house, yeah,

1027
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: and not just kind of the same like big New

1028
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: York apartment. Yeah, I'd I'd love to see, you know,

1029
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: a Mediterranean style southern California mansion with an attached casita.

1030
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: I would love to see a Northwestern lodge. You know,

1031
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: there's other things in here that I would love to see.

1032
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: I guess what he's done to Oprah's place. Yeah, I

1033
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: guess that's a confidential, right too many NDAs. Next week

1034
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: we're going to be reading a book called Frontier Follies,

1035
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: written by the one and only pioneer woman you know

1036
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: her from the Food Network, ray Drummond or Steven calls

1037
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: her ray Mond and she marches the beat of her

1038
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: own Drummond and stay tuned because there might be a

1039
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: very special surprise in that episode. Well, I mean, obviously

1040
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: you'll be listening next week because you're obsused with us,

1041
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: and stick around for the VIP Lounge. Right now, we're

1042
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: gonna be joined by young Memayor, famous comedian and restaurant expert,

1043
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: host of the Feeling Asian podcast, and we're gonna get

1044
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,239
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1045
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1046
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: welcome to the vip Lounge. Thank you all of our

1047
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: sexy subscribers for getting in here with us. Sorry, no,

1048
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 1: go ahead, Lily, Oh my god, I was just gonna

1049
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: say hey to you after talking to you right now.

1050
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: We've just been speaking for an hour, but let's keep

1051
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Speaker 1: talking I'm so excited because we have a special guest

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Speaker 1: in our VAP lounge today, which is rare and not

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Speaker 1: just any guests, but the most special of Gus, one

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Speaker 1: of the most special New York icon, my former student,

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Speaker 1: your former classmate, podcaster chef mom um sex symbol, downtown

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Speaker 1: icon literally probably coolest mom in New York, comedian, coolest

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Speaker 1: podcaster in New York, TikTok or extraordinaire. Of course, we

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Speaker 1: were talking about none other than me Me Meyer, who

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Speaker 1: whoo hi, host of the Feeling Asian podcast. But you know,

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Speaker 1: that's just one small piece of a much larger picture,

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Speaker 1: host of also the Harry Butthole podcast. Young Me Welcome,

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Speaker 1: tell us everything. Hi, how are you hello? Can I

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Speaker 1: say that you mispronounced my name? Yes? Up, but you

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Speaker 1: mispronounced the white part. It's my last name is Mayer.

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Speaker 1: It's May, oh like John Mayer, just like John Mayer.

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Speaker 1: I guess that. Okay, Well, that's actually more on brand

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Speaker 1: for us to mispronounce like the white person part, I think,

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Speaker 1: because like we're travelers of the world. But really, you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you just got to look into your white self

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Speaker 1: and say, what are other white names you're subverting? White stereotypes,

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Speaker 1: I mispronouncing the white name and pronouncing the Asian name

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Speaker 1: correctly in the original Korean accent. And we are here

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Speaker 1: to subvert, and we are here to queer the space

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Speaker 1: in any way we can. Okay. I wanted to start

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Speaker 1: off and it's mate seemed like a gotcha question. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but I know you have a big you know you

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Speaker 1: have a lot of experience in the food world, huh,

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Speaker 1: coming from a mission Chinese background, some would say a

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Speaker 1: co founder. And I wanted to ask you what you

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Speaker 1: think the most overrated Italian restaurant in New York is

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Speaker 1: if you had to choose between Palm Carbone and Lilia. Okay, dang, wow,

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Speaker 1: this is really okay. So this is my this is

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Speaker 1: my take on this, and this is going to get

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Speaker 1: very long. I want to talk about this for an

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Speaker 1: hours out Okay. Yeah, And that was just a taste

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Speaker 1: airy and filled with vintage objects. The show is produced

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Speaker 1: by Meg Burnane who comes from Basque Country and has

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Speaker 1: editorial support from Leon Naifak, who I actually found in Patagonia.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Parsons and Modeling Kaplan also do some of the producing.

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Speaker 1: They both are covered in hand knit blankets as we speak.

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