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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: This is Morning Combat. Hey, far out man, It's Monday,

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Speaker 2: the tenth of October twenty twenty two, and it is

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Speaker 2: time for Morning Combat. My name is Luke Thomas. I

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Speaker 2: am nearly one half of your hosting duo. I joined

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Speaker 2: you from the capital. That's not us with needles right

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Speaker 2: here in Washington, DC, joined by my partner in crime,

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Speaker 2: you know him by many names. The drug rug is

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Speaker 2: of Connecticut, Brian Campbell. I'm Brian Luke.

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Speaker 1: They call that a Baja hoodie professionally, just so you know,

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Speaker 1: all right, Luke, Okay, there you go ready, it.

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Speaker 2: Will only ever be a drug rug to me.

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Speaker 1: I mean where I come from. That's that's indeed true.

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Speaker 1: And Luke, yo, you and I had a good weekend together.

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Speaker 1: I'm fired up to be here. Let's let's hey, Tooey right,

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Speaker 1: has one of the more controversial title gets in the

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Speaker 1: fact that he lost to Marlon Moriis, and I think

431
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Speaker 1: even though it was close, it was a fair loss.

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Speaker 1: And then he got a title shot on name alone.

433
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Speaker 1: You're not gonnaive him a second one. No, that scenario

434
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Speaker 1: is ridiculous.

435
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Speaker 2: Look, let's okay, but here, okay, So, but Sterling's your champ.

436
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Speaker 2: Let me just read to you the rankings about which

437
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Speaker 2: direction else you can go. Sitting there at number one,

438
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Speaker 2: Dila Shaw two, Morob is at three. Morob is there,

439
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Speaker 2: and he is sitting at three Sanhagen and then Vera,

440
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Speaker 2: respectively in four or five. You tell me who's a better.

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Speaker 1: Name, Well, look, I think Sanhagan if i'm him, Just

442
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Speaker 1: in case, I'm staying close to wait and I make

443
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Speaker 1: sure my passport is updated. But beyond that, that's why

444
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Speaker 1: you have Yan and O'Malley, which is such a badass

445
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 1: fight with so much future. You know, if O'Malley wins, Dude,

446
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 1: he could be fighting for the next title shot. There's

447
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 1: no question about it. Star power alone. Dude, that's a

448
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 1: great conundrum to be in. Should Dili Shaw fall out

449
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 1: or let's say al Jo missed. Wait, you can bump

450
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 1: up either of those guys. They're already in a great spot.

451
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Speaker 1: Nobody else needs to be sitting around as a replacement.

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Speaker 2: Luke, okayde, you would really bump up Sean O'Malley to

453
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Speaker 2: a title fight? No?

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Speaker 1: I think if it was al Jo who needed the opponent,

455
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Speaker 1: Yan would get it because they have history and it

456
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Speaker 1: would be a trilogy, and it just makes more sense.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you could allow O'Malley to cut the line.

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Speaker 1: But let me ask you this, Luke. Let's say al

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Speaker 1: Jo missed wait and was bumped the card. Could you

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Speaker 1: then do Sean O'Malley versus TJ in the main event

461
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Speaker 1: as like a number one contender fight? Yeah? Sorry, coman

462
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Speaker 1: as like a suddenly number one contender fight for the

463
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Speaker 1: interim title or some bs you could, Luke.

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Speaker 2: Want that? You know, does Dila Shaw, who's in a

465
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Speaker 2: title fight now want to fight Sean O'Malley for to

466
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Speaker 2: hold position? I guess if they gave him a bunch

467
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Speaker 2: of money as like a discretionary bonus.

468
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Speaker 1: And the interim title, Tyson, Yeah, you got to have

469
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Speaker 1: the interim title and a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, Yeah, that could be interesting. Wow. Could you

471
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Speaker 2: imagine Sean O'Malley as a potential interim UFC bans aweight

472
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Speaker 2: champion with a strange turn of events? It seems unlikely,

473
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Speaker 2: but but if.

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Speaker 1: He beat TJ, Dude, you it's not like you could,

475
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Speaker 1: you know, pick it outside and make signs, Luke. You know,

476
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Speaker 1: if you beat TJ, he gets he's there, he's a star, dude,

477
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: he's there, all right.

478
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Speaker 2: Here's a crazy scenario that again, all of this is

479
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Speaker 2: a little bit pie in the sky talk, But the

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Speaker 2: point I would want to make is imagine if that happens. Right, So,

481
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Speaker 2: for some reason Aljaiel gets sick and they have to

482
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Speaker 2: he can't defend his title. They don't strip him, but

483
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Speaker 2: you know, whatever happens, they now elect to have an

484
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Speaker 2: interim title fight, so that there's another title fight on

485
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Speaker 2: the card, and that it is Sean O'Malley and he

486
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Speaker 2: fights TJ. Dillashaw. But now let me throw this little

487
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Speaker 2: wrench at you, which is what if it looks like

488
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 2: the Sahudo Dilshaw fight where it's over, you know, approximately

489
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Speaker 2: less than a minute, thirty seconds whatever, it ends up

490
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Speaker 2: being something where it's like first shot that land kind

491
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Speaker 2: of chaos him, or second shot that lands kind of

492
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Speaker 2: chaos him. How what would that impact be.

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Speaker 1: If O'Malley won by early ko and like the first

494
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Speaker 1: shot he landed, he'd get he'd get the title shot next,

495
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Speaker 1: he'd probably be the interim champion if this scenario played out,

496
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Speaker 1: and again.

497
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Speaker 2: Be so much pervasive doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: Of course, but that would only add to the intrigue

499
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Speaker 1: of Look, eventually, because of his star power, sooner than later,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna fight for a title. And obviously, if he

501
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Speaker 1: wins his schedule fight this Saturday, he's probably next, so

502
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Speaker 1: you're not gonna hold him back anyway. So there's always

503
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Speaker 1: going to be some doubter saying, oh, he's been fighting

504
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Speaker 1: the Chris Mautinos lately and not trying to hard. Okay, well, Luke,

505
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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do if if some last minute

506
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Speaker 1: scenario which isn't even in play. I don't know why we're

507
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Speaker 1: playing about this hard, but if it happened that way,

508
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Speaker 1: you'd still have that polarizing mix of people who don't

509
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Speaker 1: think he deserved it. So I want to see him

510
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Speaker 1: crumble and other people going, look, we got to find

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Speaker 1: out right now he just knocked out TJ Tillishaw for

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Speaker 1: God's sake. I mean that, you know that's that's a

513
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Speaker 1: starmaking win right there. Under any circumstances scenario, it.

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Speaker 2: Certainly would be. I'm merely having fun with some of

515
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Speaker 2: the headlines that are coming out about this. I just

516
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Speaker 2: want to be totally.

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Speaker 1: Coll I mean, this is my this is my kind

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Speaker 1: of show, right now, Luke, okay, I just want to

519
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Speaker 1: make sure the people are on board with us.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's quite fair, all right. So that leads us

521
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Speaker 2: to some of the other weird headlines coming out about

522
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Speaker 2: this fight. And again everyone is just wildly chippy about this.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen some of the back and forth about

524
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Speaker 2: Makachev and Chandler? Are you aware of any of this?

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Speaker 1: I am not. Can you set the stage for me, please.

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Speaker 2: So both have been asked to make a series of

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Speaker 2: comments about the other one because that's just what media

528
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Speaker 2: is today. No one does like any investigative. They just

529
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Speaker 2: rehash what everyone else is saying. And so Chandler was

530
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Speaker 2: asked about Makachev's resume, right, and he said, quote, he

531
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Speaker 2: hasn't really fought anybody. That's really the truth. What people

532
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Speaker 2: take shots at Makachev, it's unbelievable. So Makachev responded back

533
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Speaker 2: on social media saying, quote, Haha, your only two wins

534
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Speaker 2: in the UFC are Hooker who came off of a loss,

535
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Speaker 2: and Tony, who has five losses in a row. Now

536
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Speaker 2: please shut up and stay in line. First of all,

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Speaker 2: interested in the Makachev Chandler fight. Just want to be

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Speaker 2: very clear about that.

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Speaker 1: And that's why it's brilliant. That's a brilliant marketing play

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Speaker 1: from Chandler, who's coming off a win no matter who

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Speaker 1: it's against. And Luke, he's a company man who gets

542
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Speaker 1: opportunities because he's ready, willing and able, whether you agree

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Speaker 1: with him or not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but let's answer this question. What is a fair

545
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Speaker 2: criticism of Islam's resume? What does a fair criticism of

546
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Speaker 2: it look like?

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, the only fair criticism is that there's

548
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Speaker 1: not an overwhelming amount of elite names. He had to

549
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Speaker 1: take the back road and collect a long number of

550
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Speaker 1: victories and build this, you know, Tony Ferguson, like you know,

551
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Speaker 1: Max Holloway, like in the standpoint of how many more

552
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Speaker 1: wins is he gonna need before he finally gets to

553
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Speaker 1: the title shot? Well it's right now, Okay, we can

554
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: enough of that conversation. I do feel like UFC was

555
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Speaker 1: stiff arming Islam for a bit, maybe more for marketing

556
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Speaker 1: purposes of trying to make the other bigger fights first

557
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Speaker 1: and knowing or maybe you know, there's some back to

558
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Speaker 1: your conspiratorial in this, to the idea of maybe if

559
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Speaker 1: we get Abib mad enough about his guy not getting

560
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Speaker 1: the title shot. He'll come back and fight for us,

561
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Speaker 1: probably not as likely. But the whole point here, Luke

562
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Speaker 1: is would you have rather had him fought all the

563
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Speaker 1: big names in this division so we know everything for sure?

564
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: Of course, he hadn't had that opportunity. He didn't get

565
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: there yet he thought who we thought he beat those guys? Boy,

566
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Speaker 1: is he ready right now? And I think he's always

567
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Speaker 1: like O'Malley who people are automatically gonna look at him

568
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Speaker 1: and go, oh, he's just a flashy haircut. I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna look at Islam and

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Speaker 1: because he's dubbed as Habib's boy, but we haven't seen

571
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Speaker 1: him actually fully prove it yet. He's not there. He's

572
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Speaker 1: not gonna win those people over until he wins the championship.

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Speaker 1: Let's be fair. Because he's that they just look at

574
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Speaker 1: him now as Habib Junior, who's just you know, But

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Speaker 1: the reality is the guy can freaking fight. Watch that

576
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: win streak you want to credit? Do you want to

577
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Speaker 1: you know you want to go after the lack of

578
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Speaker 1: elite wins? Well, give him a chance to fight these

579
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Speaker 1: league guys. We're gonna find out what happens Luke Okay.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so he had a win before the Martins lost,

581
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Speaker 2: then he had this and he had the Martins lost

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Speaker 2: in his second UFC fight. So since then he's undefeated

583
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Speaker 2: and he has wins over Chris Wade, who's a good

584
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Speaker 2: fighter but in the PFL, now Nick Lentz, who's retired,

585
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Speaker 2: I think, Listen Tibao who's in the PFL, Cajun Johnson,

586
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: who I'm not sure is competing anymore. But then it

587
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: turns up to a significant degree. Then he'd beat Armin Saryukiin.

588
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: Now that was sar Yukiin's UFC debut, but still that

589
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 2: was a tough fight and he won it. Wad, that's

590
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Speaker 2: a solid win and him by the way, like like

591
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Speaker 2: I say, it's a tough fight, but like because it's

592
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Speaker 2: a tough opponent. But Bakachev looked really good in that one.

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Speaker 2: Then he'd beat Davey Hamosh, who was a very good

594
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Speaker 2: submission grappler, Drew Dober he submitted via arm triangle in

595
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Speaker 2: the third round, Tago Morsesk who he submitted via rear

596
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: naked chok in the fourth round. He just blew past

597
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Speaker 2: Dan Hooker. By the way, he fought Dan Hooker two

598
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: fights ago, which wan't to be clear about that, but

599
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: he submitted him inside the first round, and then Bobby Green,

600
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 2: who he polished off into the first round, but that

601
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: was of course a last minute change, and that was

602
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Speaker 2: a catchwaight of one hundred and sixty pounds. He has

603
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: looked good, but I think your analysis about his resume

604
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: is on the spot. Since the lost of Martinez, obviously

605
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: he's looked great, and since the fight from sar Yuki

606
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: and up, he's looked really, really good, but he doesn't

607
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 2: have any wins over super elite competition to this point.

608
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Speaker 2: Olivera is by far his toughest opponent to date, so

609
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: there is something to be said for that. Although I

610
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: have to say, if you end up getting a fight

611
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 2: where Chandler beats Pourier in New York City, right and

612
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Speaker 2: Makachev wins at two to eighty, that is very likely

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Speaker 2: to be your next fight, is it not. That's going

614
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Speaker 2: to be his first title defense.

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Speaker 1: And that's why it's brilliant work by Chandler, who I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you want to do the full criticism

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Speaker 1: of him being a company guy, and he's I mean,

618
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: he is so over the top in doing that, why

619
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Speaker 1: do people be company man, Luke, Because you get huge opportunities,

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00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: but you also have to be a badass who's willing

621
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Speaker 1: to fight anybody at any time, no matter what the

622
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Speaker 1: situation he is. That's the perfect first title defense if

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Speaker 1: you're looking to really try to make Islam's name. And

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Speaker 1: I think the fact that he can be so dominant

625
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: even though he's not exactly Abib, and in some ways

626
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: he's more exciting in some ways than Habib. You know,

627
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: he can dominate you in ways that aren't fully exciting.

628
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: You give him a guy like Chandler, he has a

629
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Speaker 1: chance to do some exciting shit, or maybe not, or

630
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: maybe they make a crazy ass fight and you don't

631
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: know who comes out of there. But even that would

632
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: seem like the next one, Luke. And look these all

633
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: of these guys that are now considered the last generation

634
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Speaker 1: at lightweight, meaning we had arguably the deepest division in

635
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Speaker 1: the sports history when Habib was on top, and we

636
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: had all those celebrity names. Now, when you're talking Connor Ferguson, Damn,

637
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: when you're talking all that gets you, they're all getting old, Okay,

638
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: they're all getting old. Pourier, they're one big win or

639
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: two wins away each of them from being potential title

640
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: opportunities as well. So this divisions in such a great

641
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: spot because that second generation that's coming in is so

642
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: strong right now, and there's a few of them. But

643
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: whoever comes out of Olivera in Mahachev, we're gonna have

644
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: some fun fights to make. And I think if it

645
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: is Mahachev, if you don't think he's meeting enough, guy,

646
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to. If he wins that title, he's

647
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: gonna have to prove it in a meat grinder of

648
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: names of old and new. And uh, we don't have

649
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: the footage as much as we don't have the proof

650
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: yet that he is that dude, we don't have a

651
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: proof yet that he's not either Luke I mean, And

652
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: that's like, let's pause for a second here. How fucking

653
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: great on paper is Charles Olivera versus Islam Mahachev. Separate

654
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: from the card, the venue, the stakes, whatever, style versus style.

655
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: This is such a great fight to get, Like, if

656
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: I could pick one fight that's gonna give me the

657
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: Islam Mahachev answers, It's about as great as it gets

658
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: right entertainment wise, This is gonna be something fun comes

659
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: two saturdays from now. I mean, Luke, I don't think

660
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: you need Jay Hager in here right now to tell

661
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: you what's going on below the camera.

662
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you probably have a pathetic boner, but I mean

663
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: you've been having that since fifth grade, so that's not

664
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: that's not new when you found out Sanna wasn't really real.

665
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: But that's funny because it's true. Wow, that was a

666
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: deep cut right there. Just whoa.

667
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. But what I wanted to say was if just

668
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: based on where I see most talk is and the

669
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: most questions I get from MMA fans, the two fights

670
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: they are by far excited about the most, and this

671
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: is not really a surprise in a lot of ways,

672
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: but just the disparity between these two fights and everything

673
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: else is huge. It's this one, it's Islam taken on

674
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: Olivera and then the other one be Izzy and Padeta.

675
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: Those are the two fights that MMA fans, clearly on

676
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: the rest of the twenty twenty two calendar, care about

677
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 2: the most by far, And to your point, what is

678
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: there to dislike about it? You have two elite lightweights.

679
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: We'll find out who's the most elite about them or

680
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: between them. I should say it's a very difficult fight

681
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 2: to figure out because both guys are very well rounded

682
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: and very experienced. It's for a title, maybe one of

683
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: the more prestigious titles in the UFC, given it's in

684
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: the lightweight division, and you've got guys basically in their primes, Like,

685
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: what on earth could there be to not? Like, it's

686
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: got everything you could possibly want on stakes, action, rival

687
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: fan bases, the works. This is the one to watch,

688
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: to be clear.

689
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, okay, go ahead, are you spinning off of

690
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: this topic because I got one more thing to ask you?

691
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: One more I do have another thing on this one,

692
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: but go ahead.

693
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: Look, I think Habib became somewhat of a surprisingly accidental

694
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: pay per view star, And obviously when you have the

695
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: unbeaten streak, you've got his mindset, his one liners, you know,

696
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: semi location, all that stuff, number one bullshit. And on

697
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: top of that, he was involved in you know, the

698
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: most hillacious pay per view build of all time, the

699
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor won, and it turned out that that set

700
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: the record for buys. I mean he would also he

701
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: touches different parts of the world and certainly the Muslim

702
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: fan base. I mean there's a lot that had be

703
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: brought in the end. It didn't look like he was

704
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: going to be that star in the beginning. Considering that

705
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: Islam has the Habib rub, I mean, he's in his corner,

706
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: he's with him at constantly. If Islam wins the title,

707
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: and if his first you know, three or four title defenses,

708
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: if he stays the champion, come against Chandler or recycled

709
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: Gay Chee, heck a recycle anyone. You know, there's big

710
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: names still here. Is he going to be a star

711
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: on that Habib leveled by association? When you mix that

712
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: with what he's doing inside the cage.

713
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: I have my doubts that he can match what Habib

714
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: did because I do think Habib had a more aggressive

715
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: style between them, and I think that was part of

716
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: his appeal. Was just there was a certain kind of

717
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: not frenetic pace, but this I don't know how to

718
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: describe it exactly. It's a little bit more than quicksand too.

719
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: But you know, he would he was he had. His

720
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: style was to me a little bit more forward towards

721
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: the finish than a guy like Islam who waits a

722
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: little bit, waits a little bit, waits a little bit. Also,

723
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: you know, just through broken English, a guy like Islam,

724
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: excuse me, a guy like Habib could kind of talk

725
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: some shit. He had funny things to say. He was

726
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: the one that introduced us to the idea of smesh

727
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: that kind of came about afterwards. Islam doesn't have some

728
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: of those features that Habib did, but he's got a

729
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: lot of the other bigger ones that count. And so

730
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 2: is he ready to be a potential Habib clone in

731
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: that way, like he can match all of the same

732
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: heights that Habib reached. I doubt that. But can he

733
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: be a pretty big star for the UFC? Definitely. Now

734
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: you got to go through Charles Oliver and potentially a

735
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: series of other very big and important names. But he's

736
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: got he could do some things in the sport from

737
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: a sales and pay per view purchasing standpoint.

738
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you the truth. The missing link is

739
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: actually for him to reach a bee level. It's Connor McGregor.

740
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: And for all this, I know Connor McGregor's shooting a movie.

741
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: We have no idea when or if what he's gonna

742
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: look like when he gets back. Every day that we wait,

743
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: you have more doubts I know Connor's always talking about

744
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: Welterwait in all of his tweets, But look, isn't that

745
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: the if you're looking, if you're in that pay per

746
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: view war room with UFC and the financial guys there

747
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: and they're talking about, you know, what's our next power move?

748
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: Isn't that Shouldn't that be? Shouldn't they be doing everything

749
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: in their power to keep him happy and as close

750
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: to one seventy meaning McGregor as possible, because that's the

751
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: rub to really make Islam the star that he might be.

752
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: But first of all, yeah, you gotta be Charles, you

753
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: gotta be probably Chandler after that. You know what I'm saying?

754
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: Long term though, that's that that's pro wrestling matchmaking, you know,

755
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: to one point? All right though, that that's that's the

756
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: entry level how to do it. I don't know why

757
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: they wouldn't.

758
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: Love I'll just say this, whoever ends up being the

759
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: champion at one fifty five after UFC two eighty, I

760
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: really really hope that they can keep that guy active.

761
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: That's the only thing I really care about is, yeah,

762
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,479
Speaker 2: may the best man win, whoever that ends up being,

763
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: and then let's have that title in rotation in terms

764
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: of defenses. That's really what I want to see. Now

765
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 2: we stay with this particular fight and we stay with

766
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 2: the weirdness BC, which is here's another thing. Now. Charles

767
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: Olavera told the media some time ago this year that

768
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: he planned to be in Abu Dhabi two weeks before

769
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: the fight. And you saw even before that, Habib getting

770
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: on social media saying, I don't know if Charles is

771
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: going to show up like out of nowhere, and then

772
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: Islam took to Twitter and then, by the way, we're

773
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: doing the same thing that MA sites are doing. So

774
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: here I am criticizing them, but we're no better.

775
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: It's filling our show on a slow Monday.

776
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: Believe that it certainly is. But the point being is

777
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: he then takes that tweet or it takes a clip

778
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: of that news story saying that Charles was gonna be

779
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: there two weeks before and says, two weeks before the

780
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: fight Charles and his team are not in Abu Dhabi yet,

781
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: should I start to worry? At which point, then on Instagram,

782
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: Charles do Bronx, who's got like seven watches on who's

783
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: got more jewelry than mister t says, don't worry Dad

784
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: is coming. Let me ask you this, Why are Habib

785
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: and Islam putting out this narrative to the world that

786
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: Charles just may not show up. I gotta tell you,

787
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: of all the confusing things I've seen, this is perhaps

788
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: the more bizarre one.

789
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that bizarre. Okay, so number one,

790
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: it's a long term mental game, number one. But what

791
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: you're asking really is what the root of it is.

792
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: I've kind of shared this before, and I don't think

793
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: anyone cares about my opinion, but I think I'm right

794
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: about this. Here's the deal. When Habib was champ and

795
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: beating everybody he had the chance to fight, he never

796
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: got a chance to fight Charles Olivera. I think to

797
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: him and a lot of people from his era, when

798
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: they look at Charles Olivera, they see the guy from

799
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: one division below who would constantly miss way, who you know,

800
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: could win spectacularly but could also lose spectacularly. And I

801
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: think they see him as a quitter Luke, and I

802
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: think that's it to them. It's like they're not going

803
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: to recognize that he's all growns up and he's done

804
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: these things. Add that to the idea also that even

805
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 1: though Hubib's retired, what made him so great his competitiveness, Right,

806
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: He's still a competitor, and I don't think he likes

807
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: that after he retired abruptly with this unbeaten record, and no,

808
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: he didn't get as many elite wins as we would

809
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: have preferred to, like, you know, put him right up

810
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: there with the GSP John Jones whatever I mean. But

811
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: you know, you can also argue that he is because

812
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: of what he did accomplish. I think he looks at

813
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: what ola Vera has done in a very short time

814
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: since becoming champion, and all these big names he's adding,

815
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: and I think he's just like, wait, people really gonna

816
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, I never lost, and people were really gonna

817
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: now put annoint this guy as one of the greatest

818
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: lightweights ever and all this stuff. And I think it's

819
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: just a competitor in him going no, no, fuck you, bro,

820
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: And I can't fight you right now because I promised

821
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: mother and father, but my boy can and we're going

822
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: to get in your head at every turn. And Luke,

823
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: if you still you know, you know what Beebe's not

824
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: doing right now in retirement. He's not getting fat and

825
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: referring ww pay per view fights. Okay, he's still in

826
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: that mode, Luke, he's still there mentally, okay, as a coach,

827
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: and he's going to try to take down OLIVERA. And

828
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: I think you think I'm crazy, But I also think

829
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: you think I'm onto something when when you really let

830
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: that sink in, all right.

831
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: I tend to think that your more conspiratorial mind is

832
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: useful in situations like this, because from my vantage point,

833
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: it makes zero sense whatsoever. But clearly there's got to

834
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: be some kind of purpose, and your ability to kind

835
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: of ferret out what the conspiracy angle actually aids the

836
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: conversation here. I still find it to be weird. Now, BC,

837
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: here's the only not quite catch. But you asked about

838
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: like we were talking like who would be the fill

839
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 2: in in the event that something happened for al Jiel

840
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: versus TJ, which, by the way, independent of al Joe's

841
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: concerns about TJ potentially popping again, crazy shit happens, one

842
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: of them can get food, poison, COVID, some bullshit, one

843
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 2: never knows. In this particular case, Volkanovsky, the featherweight champion,

844
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: has that he's going to be in Abu Dhabi, and

845
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: I suspect he's going to do that to be the

846
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: backup in the event that there needs to be one BC.

847
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 2: I have to tell you I'm not a big fan

848
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: of him going up to one fifty five and getting

849
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 2: a title shot right away. I you know, I'd want

850
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: to see him fight another top contender first, But I

851
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: gotta say as a fill in replacement, highly intriguing, highly intriguing,

852
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 2: would you agree?

853
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like, while you can paint this if

854
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: you want, as opportunistic or whatever, it's also Darren to

855
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: be fucking great. I mean, this is the willingness that

856
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: Volkanovsky is saying, Like, you know, I want I want

857
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: you guys to know that I'm the pomp for Palm

858
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: Best right now and I may not always get the

859
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: love I deserve, but I'm also one of the greatest

860
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: fighters of all time, and to prove that I'm willing

861
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: to do this shit, I'm the champion in another way class. Yeah,

862
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: I'm willing to like do the Michael Chandler stuff to

863
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: be fair, although you know, it doesn't seem like Volkanovski's

864
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: as flashy as like, look at me while I'm doing it.

865
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: But it also still works, and with his resume and

866
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: what he's accomplished, should he be the guy they would

867
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: potentially lean to in an emergency, that would make a

868
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: hell of a turnaround in terms of storyline and excitement,

869
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: you know, in that twenty four to forty eight hour window,

870
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: if something bad did happen, Yeah, I would sign off

871
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: on that, Luke, and I would be you know, you

872
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: can't lose, because that's the thing. Volkanovsky would deserve the

873
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: credit for making a badass power move. And if he loses,

874
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's a lost Luke, but you're

875
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: not gonna hold it against him. You're certainly not gonna

876
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 1: hold it against him. That's the thing.

877
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 2: Okay, So let me ask you who would you rather

878
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: Volkanowski fight? And obviously he'll replaces just whoever falls out

879
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 2: if that ends up happening. But in a perfect world,

880
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: what's a better fight? Ola Vera versus Volkanowski or Makachev

881
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: versus Volkanowski.

882
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 1: Wow, that is they're.

883
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: Both fucking awesome. By the way.

884
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 1: It's like it's like, you know, MK, viewer, you hear

885
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: ours all the time, you can smell our thoughts and feelings.

886
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: Are you morel you know? Are you more bbl or

887
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: are you more you know, your European plow experience, factory town?

888
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

889
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: Like where like? You know, where are we going here?

890
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: In your preference? Either side works, Luke? Okay, that's the thing,

891
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's either side say.

892
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Volkanovski versus Olivera is a little bit

893
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 2: more interesting to me. Can I tell you why?

894
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: Okay? Maybe are you gonna say for fire for fireworks? Yes,

895
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: but don't I thought you're see you're the x's and

896
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: o's nerd bomber here, Luke. You know what I mean?

897
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: You should be saying, Mahachev what that will look like?

898
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: With Volkanovski? You know, I think I think you missed this, Luke, Okay.

899
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: Don't I think in either in either direction you could

900
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: make an argument. So, for example, the striking would be

901
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 2: more interesting between OLIVERA and Volkanowski, and either way, if

902
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: it stays standing, I suspect Volkanowski would be quicker. And

903
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: by the way, you know, don't forget Olivera has vision

904
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: problems and gets hit a lot. I could imagine that

905
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: being interesting. By the way, you know, who knows what

906
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: he'd be willing to do. But if you're willing to

907
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: go into Brian or Tega's guard, would you be willing

908
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: to go into a hurt Olivera's guard. Maybe you might be.

909
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: You might be willing to do that. That'd be kind

910
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: of interesting. On the other side, Akovsky's been dropped a

911
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: number of times. You could imagine Olavera doing that and

912
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: then finding his way to the back pretty quickly. That

913
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: could be kind of cool. On the other side, the

914
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: Makachev one is if he let's assume everyone just assumes.

915
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: I think Markachev will get the takedown, but I would

916
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: say that a guy like Volkanowski would make that very

917
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 2: very difficult, certainly doable. And if he did get it,

918
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: what would a guy like a guy like Volkanowski do

919
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: either on his back or from turtle being controlled with

920
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: risk captures. That's kind of fun. On the other side,

921
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: what if a guy like Volkanowski pieces up Makachev on

922
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: the feet and he can't get the takedown, which is also,

923
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: by the way, quite quite conceivable. There's there's like no

924
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: scenario in either of those two fights with any of

925
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: those guys winning where the fight is not revealing and good.

926
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: You also know there's a scenario in there in which

927
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: this is just a bridge too far physically, given that

928
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: he's already small and height for that the weight class,

929
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: that he's the champion, he might just get gobbled up

930
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: in the wrestling and we have a decision win at

931
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: the end of the day. Look, you know, you should

932
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: have shot down my habib theory better just by saying

933
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: And it was probably Ali who tweeted.

934
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: Those, right, Oh you know, I didn't even think about that,

935
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 2: but yeah, but you know, still, there's there's there's just

936
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: fighters have like a and everyone's different, but they have

937
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 2: weird sort of superstitions and sometimes they come to life.

938
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: And when McGregor was making these predictions, everyone got just

939
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: they were just drinking it in at all times. But

940
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: it just sort of goes to show that the vast

941
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: majority of these pre fight premonitions are just nonsense, you

942
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean, The vast majority are just like, yeah,

943
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: it doesn't really work that way. Although we're just coming

944
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: off UFC two seventy nine where absolutely insane shit happened,

945
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: and you know, here I am saying it's a bunch

946
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 2: of nonsense. Maybe it's it's not. Still I can't wait

947
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: two weeks away. What an event that's gonna be. Now

948
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: it takes us to point number two BC. Let's talk

949
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 2: about that here. Alistair overim the demolition Man, the rem uberrim,

950
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: whatever you'd like to call him. He has to kind

951
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: of rally a little bit with some of the open

952
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: scoring that they used in Glory to defeat his rival

953
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: batter Harry, dropping him twice in the third round and

954
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: then ultimately getting the decision victory as a consequence at

955
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 2: Glory Collision four BC. What did Over improve with this victory?

956
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: He proved that, you know, crazily enough, there is more.

957
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: There is more for him to do if he wants it. Luke,

958
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: I mean, like he's forty two years old, he's done

959
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: everything but whin a UFC title And oh, by the way,

960
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: he came close twice in the same fight against step A.

961
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Luke, Alistair felt it just always remember that.

962
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: But Luke, you know it seemed like when he left

963
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: the UFC that okay, maybe there's one big money fight.

964
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, there may be more if he wants

965
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: to do it in some type of boxing crossover, of course,

966
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: which is a lot of people are chasing. But look

967
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: at what he did at this level. Now, okay, he

968
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: had already beaten Botle Harry by knockout, even though they

969
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: traded them. But I didn't realize coming in that the

970
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: thirty seven year old bought hard of the legend was

971
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: like zero to five with two no contests in the

972
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: last seven years, Luke. Okay, So the build up to

973
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: this had been about that, about you know, wounded animal.

974
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: But that wounded animal, didn't he almost knock over him

975
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: Ounta in the first round. I mean he dropped him

976
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: hard with a left hand. I think you know, overhim

977
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: wins this rivalry.

978
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: Yes, overy overream Overham didn't touch the canvas here.

979
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: Didn't he get rocked in the first round? Luke?

980
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: He did get right, he got He definitely got hurt

981
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: with some big punches, yes, but he never he never

982
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: got knocked out.

983
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: I'll take that part back. I'll just say Luke that

984
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure the drug testing is different in

985
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: those parts. But still, dude, he's still got something there

986
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: whether he want you know, and look you'll see it.

987
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: And have you seen this ship. Rico Verho, the heavyweight

988
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: champion in Glory forever, you know, wants wants to go

989
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: next on this level, Luken, he can play. He can

990
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: still play there. He's in increasing I mean, what a career,

991
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: what a lot. That's a lot of mileage though, but

992
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: what a freaking career. He's still in the game if

993
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: he wants it. Do you agree with that?

994
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 2: At least I have to tell you. I think Alistair

995
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 2: overhim is one of the most underappreciated combat sports athletes

996
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 2: of our generation. And what I mean by that is

997
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: certainly he has gotten a lot of his flowers. We

998
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: talked to Deontay Wilder using that description others as well

999
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: while he was still alive. Right he got the statue

1000
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: made for Deontay did the statue made for Froim in Alabama,

1001
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: and it was like a big thing for him. That

1002
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: part Heat credits to returning after the third Tyson Fury fight.

1003
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: But what I mean to say is you brought up

1004
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 2: something I thought was kind of interesting. We've had previous

1005
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: conversations like who's the best fighter to never fight in

1006
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: the UFC? And you can go Fade or you can

1007
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: go Patrisio Pitbull, you can go to a few different directions.

1008
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: But here's a guy who did fight in the UFC

1009
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: and didn't win a title. So now if I had

1010
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: to ask you who's one of the better, certainly MMA fighters,

1011
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 2: but then beyond that combat sports athletes who never won

1012
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: a UFC title, who did fight in UFC man, you

1013
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: might have to put over him at the top of

1014
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: that list. We talked about it before, Dream Champion, K

1015
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: One champion and Strike Force champion simultaneously taking a lot

1016
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: of time off from kickboxing, coming back and then not

1017
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: just beating batter Harry, but kind of having to rally.

1018
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: Batter Harry looked pretty good through two rounds. He was

1019
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: very selective about his strikes. He wasn't over committing. He

1020
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: was you saw over him trying to switch dance his

1021
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: way into distance, closing, and then batter Harry kind of

1022
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: combating most of it, or check hooking him on the

1023
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 2: way in or kicking his legs out with an inside cutkick.

1024
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: He was doing a lot of stuff to off balance him,

1025
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 2: cover up when he needed to, and being frankly for

1026
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: batter Harry for the first two rounds. Both guys were

1027
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: trying a strategy, but he was being I thought the

1028
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: more patient honestly of the two, and it was over

1029
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 2: him who was taking a bunch of risks, but then Overheim.

1030
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: He made an interesting point to Todd Grisham in the

1031
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: post fight interview saying, you know, you hurt him a

1032
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: little bit. They slowed down just a little bit, and

1033
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: that's all that I need. That is exactly what happened.

1034
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: A few of the shots got through, Batter wasn't quite

1035
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: on his game as he was in the first two,

1036
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 2: and then the dude fucking Overheim went to work on him,

1037
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: taking angles, driving knees up the middle, and then an

1038
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: uppercut that was just deadly from close Overham. It doesn't

1039
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: get the credit for being basically yes, they're related, but

1040
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 2: he's basically a two sport athlete. He has achieved very

1041
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 2: highly in both of them, and maybe he didn't get

1042
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: the most coveted title on the MMA side. But I

1043
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: just want to remind folks this is the one thing

1044
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: about Overhim that never gets appreciated. Overheam has Michael Bisping mentality.

1045
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is, if you look

1046
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: at the career of Michael Bisping, dude, he had some

1047
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 2: bad knockouts along the way. Everyone talks about the Dan

1048
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: Henderson one that was one, but more than just that,

1049
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: he had some bad losses, some real career setbacks. The

1050
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: first Luke rock Hold fight would be another one, but

1051
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: it never seemed to deter him. His mind was bulletproof

1052
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: and he was always able to just try again, and

1053
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: try again, and keep knocking on the door and keep

1054
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: knocking on the door, and sure enough it fucking opened eventually.

1055
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: Alistair Overreim, dude, I remember watching overhim in the aughts,

1056
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: get viciously Chao. You can go back to, for example,

1057
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: the Chuck Ledell fight in Pride. I remember there's a

1058
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: video of Overreim after that fight, sitting on like a

1059
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: bus from the arena going to the hospital, and he's

1060
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: got both of his nose plugged, and he just looks

1061
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 2: miserable sitting in that van before he's medically attended to.

1062
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: And he had many losses after that, the Travis Brown fight,

1063
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: fucking the Bigfoot fight, and you can go on and

1064
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: on and on.

1065
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: Just say it. He was involved in the nastiest knockout

1066
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: I think in the history of the sport that Francis

1067
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: had gone to uppercut from I mean from beyond hell.

1068
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: Luke being down the road.

1069
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: Just want to let me just connect the dots it's

1070
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 2: a great point like that loss, and there's many other

1071
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: ones too, and of course we're ignoring a bunch of

1072
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 2: wins that he had, but I'm just focusing on those losses.

1073
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: Look at the way he fought better, Harry here. He

1074
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: was the one closing the distance, he was the one

1075
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: bringing the action to him. He was the one who

1076
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: I would argue was taking more risk. After all of

1077
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: those setbacks, he is still out there fighting with that

1078
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: kind of verve and command. Dude, you just are not

1079
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: gonna see many guys like that ever. Give the ring

1080
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: his flowers, dude.

1081
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: First of all, he could have you know, he could

1082
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: have been killed by that knockout punch till over him

1083
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: or sorry not over him to a Benganu, which was

1084
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: just so insane. And then he won like six more

1085
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: UFC fights after that, like he went on another run.

1086
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: It's just you're right, none of it has mattered, which

1087
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: is scary long term. But he went in there and

1088
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: he was fresher and seemed like he had more to

1089
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: fight for. And that's the question, Luke, does he have

1090
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: more to fight for? Would you get fired the hell

1091
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: up for him fighting for the glory? Heavyweight championship. I mean,

1092
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: he's already won. You know, he's already been to the

1093
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: topic kickboxing in the past, so you're two sport, you know,

1094
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: athlete credit. Question does make a lot of sense. Could

1095
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: he go him out here and win the Glory Heavyweight

1096
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: Championship at forty two?

1097
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: Could he beat Rico? I certainly have my doubts, to

1098
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: be honest with you, I think Rico is fucking great.

1099
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: One never knows. They brought him in the ring. It

1100
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: looks like that's the fight that they want to make

1101
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 2: in Glory. I don't know when that would happen, but

1102
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: it would be I'll tell you this much. If he

1103
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: does end up beating Rico, man, that is that would

1104
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: be I mean, truly insane. And it was kind of interesting.

1105
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: We're just a few weeks away now from Anderson Silva

1106
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: fighting Jake Paul and there's been a question about Anderson

1107
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 2: Silva getting his flowers post UFC by not even fighting

1108
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: in MMA. It was kind of funny for folks who

1109
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: may have missed the broadcast overheam got booed. It was

1110
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: in the Netherlands, but it was a batter Harry crowd

1111
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: times a billion. Now in fairness. Rico also got booed,

1112
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: so it wasn't just Alistair Overeim, but still be see

1113
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: beyond just the local crowd. They're in the Netherlands and

1114
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: over him has said he wants to go back to

1115
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 2: at least one more fight in MMA. I guess we'll

1116
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: see if that ends up being fad Or and Belatore.

1117
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they'll make a run for a services. Certainly

1118
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: they used to do together.

1119
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: That'd be fun. Come on, that'd be fun. Of shit,

1120
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: that's it's I gotta.

1121
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: Say, is that, like, what's a better ending for over him,

1122
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 2: beating Rico or beating fad Or, like to really be

1123
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: really celebrated.

1124
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think beating Fador And and yes it's yes,

1125
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: Fador is long past it, but look, the knockout of

1126
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: Timothy Johnson shows that he's always going to be Fador.

1127
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: He's always going to be freaking fad Or. There's still

1128
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: some royalty in that fight. As crazy as it sounds,

1129
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: there still is. I mean, that's not the UFC title

1130
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: for a guy and over him who's won everything but that,

1131
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: But that's that's pretty I mean, that's pretty big, Luke,

1132
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 1: that'd be that'd be a I think a lot of people,

1133
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: you know, and that fight week would get into that fight.

1134
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: I think it could be a big deal for if

1135
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: Belatore wanted to pull that off. And it's crazy, it's

1136
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: funny you bring up fad Or because that's where over

1137
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: him is in that In that we always have that

1138
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: list that countdown. Bisping was on it, but now he's not.

1139
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: Of the greatest fighters to never win a UFC title.

1140
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: Like you mentioned earlier, what what's the upper crust right

1141
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: now in that category? Fad Or, Dan Henderson, Ryah Faber

1142
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: and Alistairvery.

1143
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd have to think more about the list,

1144
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 2: but yeah, they would have to be on the that

1145
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: that would have to be part of it as well.

1146
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: By the way, don't forget I was there at the

1147
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 2: Izod Center when Strike Force gave me the absolute worst

1148
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 2: seat imaginable. I want to thank Strikeforce for doing that.

1149
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,959
Speaker 2: It was I was so far away I could neither

1150
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: see the screen in the arena, and I could feel

1151
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: the heat from the the you know how they had

1152
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: that ramp with the fire my back was there was

1153
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: there was I want to point this out, there was

1154
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: no seat behind me. I was literally at the very end.

1155
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: I was next to the guy from the Big Lead.

1156
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: It was just me and him there in the fucking

1157
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: back like a bunch of jibbronis. So shouts to strike

1158
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: Force for fucking me there. That was always very very

1159
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: nice of them, But that was the same That was

1160
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: the grudges held Luke Well, I mean, they just I

1161
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: like Strike Force, but I'll never forgive them for that.

1162
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 2: But the point I wanted to make was that was

1163
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: the same card where Fador lost to Bigfoot. Remember that

1164
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 2: was part of the Strikeforce Heavyweight Tournament, and the thought

1165
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: was Fador would get past his first fight, Overream would

1166
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: get past his first fight, and then they would meet

1167
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: I think in the semis. And it just didn't end

1168
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: up happening that way. You didn't get that kind of

1169
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 2: a fight. You could potentially at a much later date.

1170
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be the same fight BC, but you could

1171
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: still scratch a little bit of that. Fad Or versus Overream.

1172
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: Itch, Yeah, I'm in, I'm in, I'm ready for it.

1173
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: And by the way, I gotta say, shouts to Glory.

1174
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: They made that thing look good like that looked good

1175
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: on TV. They both had when both Batter and Overream

1176
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: walked out. They had great lighting and ominous music, and

1177
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: the crowd was really into it. Obviously. I know they're

1178
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: disappointed that Harvey didn't win, but it was a well

1179
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: presented product. I thought that they had done a really

1180
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: great job with that, So shouts to them.

1181
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, those video packages were like almost wwe like, Luke,

1182
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: and that's a compliment that you know, they're like the

1183
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: industry standard in hype video packaging, and they were pretty good.

1184
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were. That was That was a well run event.

1185
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 2: It looked very good. I'm curious to see how a

1186
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: Glory whatever whichever the I guess Collision five or whatever

1187
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 2: one it's going to be when he fights Rico, what

1188
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: that looks like.

1189
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'd like to see, Luke. I'd like

1190
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: to see a reunion where Glory says, all right, we

1191
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: recognize that your first run with us, it wasn't what

1192
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: you wanted. It wasn't what we wanted. But you know,

1193
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: Michael Bisping did get a second chance at Dan Henderson

1194
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: to slay the you know that that shadow that's been

1195
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: following him, Luke, I'd like to see not only Todd

1196
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: Grisham on that broadcast, but you two Okay.

1197
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 2: I don't deserve it, and there's better people for it.

1198
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: There are jobs that I want in the combat sports

1199
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: broadcasting industry, and certainly you know that would be a

1200
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 2: coveted one for many, and it would be for me.

1201
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 2: But I've already done it, and I fucking sucked at it.

1202
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 2: So I'm happy to let someone more qualified and deserving

1203
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 2: have that. But there are other ones that I want.

1204
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 2: If anyone is watching, all right, let's go to point

1205
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 2: number three here and then we'll get to the boxing card.

1206
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: Shov Catt rock Monoff. It's on the list. It's on

1207
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 2: the mother effing list. He's gonna face Jeff Neil at

1208
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: a UFC Fight Night on January fourteenth BC. Shofcott Rockmanov

1209
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: seventeen fights, seventeen wins, seventeen finishes. This is against Jeff Neil,

1210
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: who looked fantastic in his last outing, which, by the way,

1211
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 2: I was wrong about. I didn't think he was gonna

1212
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: look that good, and boy did he ever look that good?

1213
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 2: And then then some if he beats Jeff Neil, how

1214
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: far is Shafcott Rockmanov away from a title shot? Wow?

1215
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: Wow? You went there? Wow? All right, this is the

1216
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: right fight at the right time. It's the right escalation

1217
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 1: of matchmaking.

1218
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 2: It's also Jeff Neiler is sitting at six in the rankings.

1219
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: And it's also a really good test critically of where

1220
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,439
Speaker 1: he's at, because to your point, Jeff Neil has had

1221
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 1: some health and personal setbacks, but there was a time

1222
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: he looked to be that dude, and he's starting to

1223
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: look like that dude again. Seriously. So you know, I

1224
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 1: made the Johnny Hendricks comparison before, Luke, but it's kind

1225
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: of like he's coming on, dude, right He's coming on. Uh,

1226
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: this is the right test if he slays it and

1227
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: if Shavkat does it in the manner of which he

1228
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: consistently does. He look, he doesn't play with his food, man,

1229
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: you know he eats that shit. Uh yeah, I mean,

1230
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: let's can we hand it? Can we look at this

1231
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: top five?

1232
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 2: Luke?

1233
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: Can we look at the title picture right now? I

1234
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: want to know from you, Okay, who's next? Who should

1235
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: be next? After that? Like how I let me ask you.

1236
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, Luke, I don't know. I mean I

1237
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: would I would want one more big win, But sometimes

1238
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: the top five and where people are at dictate that

1239
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: for you.

1240
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: So the question is like, how close would he be

1241
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: to a title shot? A little hard to know. Let

1242
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 2: me read the top one to eight, and there's a

1243
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: reason why Usman and Covington. We know Usman has business Covington,

1244
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 2: We're not quite clear what's going to happen there. Ham's

1245
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 2: not sitting at three still. Is he going to get

1246
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 2: out of the country? Is that a thing we don't know?

1247
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: The big X factor also is what's going on with

1248
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 2: Gilbert Burns who wanted to fight with forgeymen mas at all?

1249
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 2: But that kind of has it come to fruition, And

1250
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: then we get to the meat of the real issue.

1251
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: Five is Balal Mohammed, who takes on Sean Brady at

1252
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 2: UFC two. Eighty six is Jeff Neil. Seven is wonder

1253
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: Boy who has a fight coming up as well, and

1254
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: then eight is Sean Brady. So let's let's figure this out.

1255
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: If Blall wins, maybe he passes Gilbert, but he still

1256
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: stays in that four to five range. If Brady wins,

1257
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 2: I think he's going to take a big leap up

1258
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 2: and he might get inside that top five space. In

1259
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: which case, if Brady wins and Shavcott wins, BC Not

1260
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 2: only would that mean you and I have to get

1261
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: a tattoo, it could mean you get a Brady versus

1262
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: Shavcott Rockmano fight, which would be a fucking banger. But

1263
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 2: what would be this If Shafcott beats Jeff Neil, I

1264
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: think he only has one more fight after that. To

1265
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 2: be perfectly honest with you, I think this is a

1266
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 2: setup for a potential number one contender fighter.

1267
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: One time, one time more. And if it was Sean Brady, wow,

1268
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean if it was Blah Mohammed too, that would

1269
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: be the right type of test.

1270
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, either way the winner of that fight, let's say.

1271
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, things are looking up, and you know we're gonna

1272
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna what was the date on this shov caught

1273
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: Jeff Neil fight? Luke, I didn't hear?

1274
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: January fourteenth is what I have UFC fight night, all right.

1275
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: I'm uh, you know, we got a lot of time

1276
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: before then. But that's that's also close enough to to

1277
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: really what the whistle hair? Uh? How does the Chamayav

1278
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: conversation play into this at all? I mean, you know,

1279
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: if the.

1280
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: I feel like Jamayav has he already fought Burns and

1281
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: there's Colby sitting out there. It's not to say that

1282
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: a shot cut versus chama. First of all, I think

1283
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 2: a Shafcot Shamiah fight, assuming Jamayav can make one seventy

1284
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 2: more regularly, is simply inevitable. There's just no denying that.

1285
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: But I will say that, like I feel like Shafcott

1286
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: is just from what he's accomplished, you know, the next

1287
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 2: order of business, it could be Chamaia. I'll say this,

1288
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: If he goes in there and just blows the fucking

1289
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: doors off of Jeff Neil, well then we can revisit

1290
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: this conversation. But if he beats him, because here's the thing,

1291
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: Shofcot doesn't come out shot out like a cannon. He

1292
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: kind of takes his time a little bit. So I

1293
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: find like the idea of him just running over somebody

1294
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: a little bit unlikely. Uh. And also Jeff Neil hello

1295
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 2: is a very good fighter. Jeff Neil could win this

1296
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 2: and advance his cause. So there's that. And also if

1297
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 2: Blall wins, he's been kind of putting together a pretty

1298
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: great streak having to if he if he wins, he'd

1299
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: have recently beaten Sean Brady, which is gonna be difficult.

1300
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: The thing I've got my eye on BC is if

1301
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: Shavcott wins, what about shov Cott versus Gilbert Burns and

1302
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 2: what that would say about Gilbert Burns to go from

1303
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: Chamaiev to rock Montov. Now I know that they trained

1304
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 2: together in the way, well, okay, they're teammates, but he's

1305
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: not full time. Yeah, whatever it is, kill cliff FC.

1306
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: At this point Canny and.

1307
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: Gilbert also just fought his teammate Kamara Usman for the title,

1308
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: and now they still help each other and still train together.

1309
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: So Gilbert will fucking fight any one.

1310
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't have to be a death sentence, but

1311
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: that's a sick fight. That is a sick fight. I mean, what, dude,

1312
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: what's going on with Colby? Because he does have to

1313
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: some degree a pay per view brand. In a following,

1314
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: here is a is a show Colby huge fight just

1315
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: as good. I mean, it's not just as good as

1316
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: the title, but to show you what the company thinks

1317
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: of Shafcott should he win this one coming up?

1318
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,439
Speaker 2: What do you mean? I'm not sure I understand the question.

1319
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: Let's say Shavcott wins here, okay, and we're saying, damn,

1320
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: how far away is he from a title shot. Well,

1321
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: what if that next offering was Colby Covington in a

1322
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: very high profile situation. I mean that would tell you

1323
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: what the company believes they have here in Rockmont sho cover.

1324
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what's going on with Colby. To

1325
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: answer the first question you had before that, Dana White

1326
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 2: told the media or whatever that is worth, that Colby

1327
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 2: was ready to get back to action. Remember, there still

1328
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 2: is that existing legal issue with Jorge where he told

1329
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 2: his team he had a traumatic brain injury, and it's like,

1330
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: I don't know how you go through with a lawsuit

1331
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: with that. What are you illegal matter? I should say

1332
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 2: with that if that's in play? But okay, neither here

1333
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 2: nor there, assuming he takes a fight. The problem with

1334
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: giving Colby to shop, even if Shafcott gets past him

1335
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: is what you do with Jamia unless you just wait

1336
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: for Jamaiah to take the winner of Leon versus uh

1337
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: Kamaru three? Could you do that? Could you just have

1338
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: him sit on ice for a little while?

1339
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: Who Hamza?

1340
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1341
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, as long as you can trust that

1342
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: he's going to make the way. I don't know what

1343
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: assurances they would need to see, but you know, they

1344
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: could decide to just not punish him for missing the way, Luke,

1345
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: and just yeah, I mean that that's also very much

1346
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: in play. But it does feel like Chamaiav's going middleweight

1347
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: uh next at the moment, doesn't it?

1348
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: It does. His coach kind of poured a little bit

1349
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 2: of cold water on it, saying it's too soon to

1350
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: say so, I don't really know. By the way, what

1351
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: kind of odds would you lay on rock Mono versus Neil?

1352
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 2: How would you how would you size that.

1353
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: Up minus three hundred schofkat Even though that sounds big,

1354
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: That sounds big against.

1355
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: Somebody Jesus, that does sound really big.

1356
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: But that's also type. That could be a sharp line too, Luke.

1357
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: That could be like, no, this is really what it's

1358
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: going to be, so get on board. Obviously, I shows

1359
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: I don't know shit about how they set the lines

1360
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: in why I'm kidding, not really, you get the point, Luke,

1361
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: they're smarter than me most of the time. But I

1362
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: think you could come out with that line because even like, look,

1363
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: if Chaffcott is as good as he looks, he actually

1364
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: could slice up you know, Jeff Neil, and it would

1365
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: be a it'd be an eye opener Luke, but it's

1366
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: also very much in play, very much. You know this.

1367
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the fights from the weekend

1368
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 2: that we're on Showtime BC, and I called the prelimbs

1369
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 2: on YouTube as a reminder for folks. How about old

1370
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: Towering Inferno himself, the praying Mantis. The six foot six,

1371
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty four pound er Sebastian Fundora gets

1372
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 2: the unanimous decision win over Carlos Ocampo on Showtime Championship

1373
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: Boxing BC. First question here, how impressive is this run

1374
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: that Fundora is on because I want to point out

1375
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: something started about jabbing at distance, which he just normally

1376
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 2: doesn't do, spent like the bulk of the fight, fighting

1377
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 2: on the end side very cleverly, I might add, then

1378
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 2: finished it off getting right back on the outside. It

1379
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 2: was a commanding performance really from start to finish.

1380
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's a couple of things going on here

1381
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: at the same time that are all true. I think

1382
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: Number one, I think we saft played we called the

1383
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: Mussy TV coming in headed into this fight, right, he

1384
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: just fought ericson lubin and maybe the fight of the year.

1385
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: I think we got to like double down, you know,

1386
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: we can't say it passively anymore. So Bastian Frondor is

1387
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: right now and will be until he either you know,

1388
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: wins the full championship or takes his first loss disastrously,

1389
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: or whatever happens in between. This guy is so damn

1390
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: entertaining to watch because there's part of you that doesn't

1391
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: believe it could be this good. Then there's part of

1392
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: you that is gonna be over focused on like the

1393
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: things he doesn't do great. Now, look, he's getting very

1394
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: good as a boxer, like he committed to that for

1395
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: parts of this fight, and he looks dangerous in that regard.

1396
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: He also takes a lot of punishment in ways that

1397
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: don't seem advisable long term, and that may be the

1398
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: shift now in the narrative where originally the narrow of

1399
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: was is this, you know, guy who's fun to watch

1400
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: actually really good. Okay, we already know he is really good.

1401
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: I think now the question becomes is there an equal

1402
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: amount of vulnerability and potential holes in his style to

1403
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: offset the fact that he's so exciting he can take

1404
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: punishment and keep coming back. And oh, by the way,

1405
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: he's pretty damn crafty. I mean, look just from entertainment.

1406
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: He's a ten out of ten. This won't be the

1407
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: fight of the year. This so Campbell fight. But just

1408
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: from a dramatic standpoint, dude, this was like watching a movie.

1409
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: It was their shit coming on left and right, the

1410
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: referees warning, you know, oh Campbell, that they're gonna stop

1411
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: the fight. I mean, there's a lot going on, al

1412
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: Bernstein losing his stuff. This was a fun theater to watch.

1413
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: But I do have some questions about Fundorra moving forward.

1414
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: How do you feel all that I just threw out you?

1415
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: I think I would largely agree with that. I gotta say,

1416
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 2: here's the thing I'm liking about what Fundora showed by

1417
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: the way he and his sister have somewhat similar styles.

1418
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,479
Speaker 2: But that left hook that they throw from the South

1419
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 2: Paul position as their opponents try to chase into them,

1420
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: and they both kind of sniper land it. They have

1421
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 2: good timing, they have a good whip on it. It's

1422
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 2: pretty impressive. I want to say this about o Campo.

1423
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 2: Yes he's very Excuse me, about Fundora, Yes he's very entertaining.

1424
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: That is true. But two things I think get lost.

1425
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 2: One it looks to me like he's trying to expand

1426
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 2: his boxing repertoire slowly so he can fight in more

1427
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 2: dynamic ways than just this inside brawling or inside fighting,

1428
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 2: I should say, And that's the second part BCE. Watch

1429
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 2: how Ocampo fights on the inside, and watch how Fundora

1430
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: fights on the inside, and there's just no conclusion you

1431
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 2: can come to other than Fundora is much more scientific

1432
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 2: in that space. He picks his shots, he has much

1433
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 2: better defense on the inside. Now he gets hit a

1434
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: little bit when he backs up, and then Ocampo would

1435
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 2: blitz and just fire something there. That's true, And you know,

1436
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 2: part of the reason Fundora is exciting is because he

1437
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: does get hit somewhat. His style contributes to that. But

1438
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 2: in terms of shot selection and in terms of balance,

1439
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: he was way better than Ocampo on the inside. I

1440
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: just thought that, Like people just talk about how funny

1441
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 2: is and how weird he looks given the weight class,

1442
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 2: but there there's not a lot of attention paid to

1443
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 2: the choices he makes when he fights. And I feel like,

1444
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 2: on at least on the offensive side, there's a real

1445
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 2: method to his madness and that shouldn't get lost in

1446
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: the conversation.

1447
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: All Right, That's that's a key, that's a key counterpoint

1448
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: and I want to get back into that is the

1449
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: idea that I'm saying. Man, he is getting better, and

1450
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, he's again a ten out of ten entertainment wise,

1451
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: and now he's pretty much an ex for the title

1452
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: he's got. You know, he just defended that interim strap.

1453
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: Is he taking too many clean shots? And he'll tell

1454
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: you that he could box, you know, in a different way,

1455
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: and he did as an amateur. We played the sound

1456
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: on Friday. But you know, he loves to entertain the

1457
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: fans and that is a big part of what he

1458
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: brings to the table and he knows it. And I

1459
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: think that's smart to some degree. Could you argue that

1460
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: in this fight, Ocampo was you know, from the midpoint

1461
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: on was throwing a lot of arm looping punches that

1462
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: didn't look like that a lot of pepper on them.

1463
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you Carlos Ocampo is also a

1464
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: must CTV moving forward. I mean, he fought his balls

1465
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: off in this fight. I mean, what a what I

1466
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: mean there was some real hunger in there, but it

1467
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: was very sloppy. Are you are you gonna come back

1468
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: and say you're not You're not scared about the clean

1469
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: shots fundor puts himself in the range of in this case,

1470
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: because it was more of an arm punching Ocampo. Because Luke,

1471
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: if he's gonna be in there against a Jermale Charlo,

1472
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: against you know, a big puncher, I I'm a lot,

1473
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: you know. I Basically what I'm saying critically here is

1474
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: because of how sloppy Ocampo became, shouldn't Fondor have just

1475
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: snipered him on the outside, used that big jab and

1476
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: just picked him apart rather than welcoming in that entertaining danger.

1477
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you can make that argument, but I

1478
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 2: just don't understand the like, well, what if Charlo he

1479
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 2: was fighting Charlo. It's like, dude, Charlo has all the

1480
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 2: fucking belts in this weight class, all right, you know,

1481
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: maybe against that guy it wouldn't go that well, so

1482
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 2: fucking what Like I know, I never it's like, okay,

1483
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 2: well against you know, the devil himself, you're not strong enough.

1484
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: Carter argument is is this, He's got a lot of

1485
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: talent and a chin and the mindset, the balls, Like,

1486
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: there's a lot. You know, he's a great interview because

1487
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: he's so different outside the ring than inside of it.

1488
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: But you're trying to calculate what's the best way for

1489
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: him to maximize that potential? You know, which avenue to go?

1490
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: Is it like, we love the entertainment side of this,

1491
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: but is this same style applicable against the very best?

1492
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: And you may say, well, dude, they're the very best,

1493
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: so who knows what That's what you're trying to do, right,

1494
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: that's what your game plan for.

1495
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's probably fair. Do I see a guy

1496
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 2: who is ready for the very very best that this

1497
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 2: division has to offer? Not necessarily, not necessarily, but I

1498
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 2: do see a guy that's got some real ability. Obviously,

1499
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 2: we already knew he was exciting and it will be

1500
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 2: interesting to see his progression. I'm glad he defended not

1501
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 2: so much the interim title, but I'm glad he stayed

1502
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 2: busy and continue to work on his craft. He just

1503
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 2: looks to me like he's gonna surprise I think some people,

1504
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 2: maybe not the Charlow's of the world, but he might

1505
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 2: surprise some people because I do think he was diligently

1506
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 2: working on the intricacies of his game. Yeah, the defensive

1507
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 2: side certainly has some lapses. I'm not gonna say it doesn't.

1508
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 2: But the offensive side is a little bit more dynamic

1509
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 2: than I think he gets credit even.

1510
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: And because he was willing, because he was willing to

1511
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: take chances and fight at that range, man, was it

1512
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: fun to watch. But I just look at him. I

1513
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: think he's starting to figure out that if he can

1514
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: adapt to put a little bit more safety and thought

1515
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: and defense into that and use the advantages that he

1516
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: has physically rather than just saying, well, hey man, this

1517
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: is how I fight, there could be a higher ceiling

1518
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: because if he's gonna beat somebody like Damel, and that

1519
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: really is where this talk goes to. Jamal Charlo's gonna

1520
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: fight uh Tim Zoo probably in January. It's looking like,

1521
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: and you know, to fight a guy like that, it's

1522
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 1: gonna have to be You're gonna have to take some punishment.

1523
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to lean on that huge gas tank

1524
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: that Fondora has, and you're gonna have to stay in

1525
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 1: front of him and just be active and really try

1526
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,839
Speaker 1: to frustrate Jermal and set it up where all Jermal

1527
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: can do is look to counter big with one shot

1528
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: at a time. You got to win on the scorecards,

1529
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: in my opinion, by outlasting him, you know, or having

1530
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 1: that if you're gonna knock him out, you're gonna have

1531
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: to do that late by outlasting him and staying in there.

1532
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: I just want to see a little bit more commitment

1533
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: on the defensive end for those type of challenges. But dude,

1534
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: this was fun as heck. And as much as we

1535
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 1: want to credit Fondorra and we will, we got a

1536
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: credit Ocampo on the other side, who had that twelve

1537
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: fight win Street coming in and we'd only known him

1538
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: for that, you know, just one punch loss to the

1539
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: body against Spence in round one. Where do you stand

1540
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: on what became a big debate during this fight, and

1541
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: that was around the midpoint. It was a competitive fight,

1542
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of Steve Farhood scoring, and it looked,

1543
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: you know, it was back and forth on the inside.

1544
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 1: The referee, Jack Reese, who's among the best in the

1545
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: game without question him, and a California commission member in

1546
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: between rounds, we're basically telling oh, Campbell's corner that they're

1547
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: going to stop the fight if they don't see him

1548
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: start to land and show more defense, and they were

1549
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: doing it in an impassioned way that really in the moment,

1550
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: even if you agreed or disagreed. It was alarming how

1551
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: much they were trying to take control of the fight.

1552
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,560
Speaker 1: And you know, show times, Al Bernstein, the Hall of

1553
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: Famer who's been through it all and seen it all,

1554
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: he took umbrage of that, saying, you got a kid

1555
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: who's not been knocked down, didn't need like referee to

1556
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: save him. He's in this action fight. Why the hell

1557
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: would you do that? What are your take on that? First, Luke,

1558
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: did you agree with the tone in the direction that

1559
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 1: Al was ultimately going of, Look, this is a fight,

1560
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: this is what we signed up for. This kid's in

1561
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: this fight. What the hell you doing?

1562
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 2: Ref Yeah, I didn't understand what Jack Reese was so

1563
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,919
Speaker 2: concerned about. Of all the times I've seen a referee

1564
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: admonish someone or warn them or whatever the proper verbiage

1565
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 2: is and wording is to describe, you know, that kind

1566
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: of anomy encouragement, like pat on the back, but I

1567
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 2: need to see more. In fact, he was saying Jack

1568
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 2: Reese's Spanish is not great. He was saying, no dudo

1569
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 2: like not hard, like not tough enough. You know, it's

1570
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 2: like maybe a little bit clear, because I think Ocampo

1571
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 2: was just looking at him like, okay, whatever, But I

1572
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 2: thought it was I thought it was fairly inappropriate, to

1573
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,799
Speaker 2: be quite honest with you. You could make an argument

1574
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 2: that I think it was after the ninth round where

1575
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 2: al Bernstein was gobsmacked, and that you could say maybe

1576
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 2: after that he turned it on a little bit more.

1577
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,759
Speaker 1: Oh, Campo did I think they had the best round

1578
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: the round after that. So that does make it look

1579
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 1: like al was right, because it's like they you know,

1580
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: but they It also could make look Jack Reese look right.

1581
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 1: They challenged the kid to, you know, show us which

1582
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: direction you're going him, and he did fix it.

1583
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 2: He never took off, He never got like hardcore stumbled

1584
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 2: from a punch. He never touched the canvas. He wasn't

1585
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 2: like laying on the ropes. He was put he was.

1586
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 2: They were like, oh, well, he's off balance because watch

1587
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 2: his posture. He's pushing into Fundora and Fundora is so tall,

1588
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 2: he's kind of he has to really lean underneath him

1589
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 2: to get that kind of leverage that he was looking for.

1590
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 2: And again, he wasn't the same kind of insight. That's

1591
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. He's not the same level of

1592
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 2: inside fighter that Fundora is. And so that that kind

1593
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 2: of played a role. I just thought, if a referee

1594
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 2: is going to get involved, that's about the weakest case

1595
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 2: I've seen in some time.

1596
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: I agree it was alarming. I'll agree that Al, you know,

1597
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: looked right in the end. But here's what like, if

1598
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: you disagree on Jack Reese's decision to do that, you know,

1599
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: I think you can have a case there. But Al

1600
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: didn't seem to understand the motive behind it. I understood

1601
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: the motive behind it. I don't think it was Jack

1602
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: Reese and company trying to necessarily be overly safe for

1603
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: no reason. Luke, even though Campbell wasn't down, he was

1604
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: sort of staggering into one big shot effort or another.

1605
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: There wasn't a thought of defense. I mean, he went

1606
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: after it, and the the sap on his punching power

1607
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 1: was going down second by second. I think that they

1608
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 1: realized the animal in him. They realized that, you know,

1609
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: he was gonna be willing to take huge punishment and

1610
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: potentially get starched. You could argue that that's the sport.

1611
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: Let it happen. But I don't disagree with at least

1612
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: the sentiment from Jack Reeves. I was surprised that he

1613
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: went to that level to specifically say I need more

1614
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 1: defense out of you, and I need you to either

1615
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 1: fight or I'm gonna call this fight off. That is

1616
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: interesting to see a referee and commission take that aggressive

1617
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: a tone in a fight so close. So Al's right

1618
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 1: in that regard. But you know, if he didn't get

1619
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: that kick in the pants, he was looking like he

1620
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: was fading, you wonder. It's weird. It's a weird situation, man.

1621
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: It is because Jack Reese almost fixed it by doing

1622
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: that in a.

1623
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 2: Way temporarily maybe. I mean, I think if he had

1624
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 2: wanted to say I need to see a little bit

1625
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 2: more and then just leave it at that, like you're

1626
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 2: not you're just taking too much without really throwing back,

1627
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: and then just stop there, that's one thing. But then

1628
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 2: to kind of threaten you know, you know, do this

1629
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 2: or we're gonna have to call it. It just seemed

1630
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 2: it just seemed way too much given that right. So

1631
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 2: if you wanted to say that you want a more

1632
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 2: competitive fire, if for you know, I need to see

1633
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 2: a little bit more, and then let them make an

1634
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 2: interpretation about what that means without like dangling this potential

1635
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 2: threat over them, that's fine, I just it just seemed

1636
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 2: I'll say this, it seemed heavy handed. It seemed heavy

1637
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 2: handed given well live in what we were what we

1638
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 2: were seeing.

1639
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: Jack Reese does have a great reputation, but he's also

1640
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: known as like he'll let you fight, you know what

1641
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean. It's not Steve Smoger necessarily, Like he's not

1642
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 1: just gonna let let you have the fight of the

1643
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: year no matter what. But he'll let you fight. But Luke,

1644
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: if you try to cross his rules, I mean you

1645
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 1: hear him go when when a compost cornerman and poured

1646
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 1: out the ice and spilled it to try to potentially

1647
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: create create a delay in the action to save his fighter,

1648
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: and Jack Reese like, I know what you did. We're

1649
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 1: gonna take your money. We're gonna find him. I mean,

1650
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 1: he was like, get off my lawn. But that's what

1651
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 1: he's known for. People remember andre Ward's decision over La

1652
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: Bamba Rodriguez. Uh, Jack Reese took a point from both

1653
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 1: of them for trash talking and stuff. I mean, he

1654
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 1: he'll jump right in there and do that. Ship. He's

1655
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 1: also a great referee. It was interesting Luke Fondora versus

1656
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: the winner of Charlo and uh, Zoo to close. What

1657
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: do you think the odds would be here, Luke? Will

1658
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,679
Speaker 1: people be giving Fondorra a chancer? What do you think?

1659
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think Zoo would be a I don't know

1660
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 2: what the odds would because boxing is a little bit

1661
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 2: weird with the odds relative to MMA. I would say

1662
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 2: that Zoo would be a clear but not a heavy favorite.

1663
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 2: Clear but not a heavy favorite something like that.

1664
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 1: Dude, these fights are gonna be awesome. Zoo versus Charlo

1665
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: is gonna be trumman. I mean, dude, the thing about Luke,

1666
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: we don't know if he's ever gonna be as good

1667
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 1: as his dad, and that's a you know, it's unfair comparison.

1668
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: His dad's a Hall of Famer and a badass. Zuo

1669
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:10,719
Speaker 1: is willing to take on punishment and danger and that's

1670
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: his style is to walk into it and just try

1671
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 1: to outwork you with big shots. I mean, there is

1672
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 1: craft to his game. But would would you disagree with me?

1673
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 1: You know, his debut here in the States, who did

1674
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 1: he fight Oshe Terrell Goche? Yeah, I mean he put

1675
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 1: himself in harm's way to try to show you what

1676
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: he's about, him against Charlo, him against Fondora The Future

1677
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 1: at one p. Fifty four is going to be fun

1678
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: as shit. Okay, get ready.

1679
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: This one and one forty seven are both just on

1680
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 2: fire at the moment, so I would love to see it.

1681
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 2: I would again, I would favor Zoo to win. He's

1682
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 2: a bit of a slow starter, but I think some

1683
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 2: of the defensive lapses that Fundora has again in building

1684
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 2: his game, I think Zoo would eventually collect on those

1685
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 2: over time, but it would be the first six rounds

1686
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 2: would be very interesting. The first six rounds I think

1687
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 2: would be highly interesting. So we can't wait to see that,

1688
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 2: all right, BC, do some quick hitters here before we

1689
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 2: get to some of the questions from the.

1690
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: Oh you can't, you can't not mention Carlos Adamis Luke

1691
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: because he's coming the hell.

1692
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 2: Oh you're right, you're right. He probably had the cleanest

1693
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 2: punch of any single person on the entire fight card.

1694
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 2: That right hand. I tweeted about it earlier, that right

1695
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,600
Speaker 2: hand he used to rock Messius Montiel, and he was

1696
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 2: sending him like an octopus, flailing about like he was

1697
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 2: an invertebrae or something. Was unbelievable. What did you want

1698
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 2: to say about him.

1699
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 1: Uh, people need to realize this was a major breakthrough

1700
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: performance for him. A domis again. He'd fought for the

1701
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: interim title in the past, lost the decision of Patrick Tashera.

1702
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: He'd been hit or miss Meaning there's times he looks

1703
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 1: fun and aggressive when he's got the control in the fight.

1704
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: He's also looked boring and I mean there's you know,

1705
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 1: he's been up and down. Dude, the Messias Mantielle is

1706
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: just a bull and I know these people are going

1707
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,759
Speaker 1: to go, oh, dude, that guy. He's always in wars.

1708
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: He got stopped by Mongia that time early. Well, dude,

1709
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 1: that was at one forty seven. This is two divisions,

1710
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: you know after that and all he's done since then.

1711
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: Meaning montiel Is make a believer that he is as

1712
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: tough enout as you can find to find out if

1713
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 1: you're for real, because he typically not. This fight will

1714
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 1: be there at the end. What he did against Jamal

1715
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: Charlo in their title fight that we weren't all that

1716
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 1: excited about. I think in hindsight, I wonder if Charlo

1717
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 1: was even close to where his mindset should have been

1718
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 1: coming into that. Montielle was there and if you tire

1719
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: against him. He'll just keep coming, dude to a Damas

1720
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 1: sliced through him. And the best part of this broadcast

1721
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:27,600
Speaker 1: was Al Bernstein was saying the key to victory for

1722
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: a Damas don't switch dances, right, he's your power side. No,

1723
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: this is a new Carlos a Damis And what he

1724
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 1: was able to do with southbaw Luke I got a

1725
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: credit his trainer, Bob Santos, who was a longtime manager,

1726
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: had been associated with Robert grurero Arislondi Lara, a lot

1727
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: of fighters. He's coming on right now as one of

1728
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 1: the go to hot trainers of the moment. Right now,

1729
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 1: he's got three different Dominican champions now with Adamis being

1730
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: one of them. And that he's got this interim strap

1731
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: because the reason why this interim title fight became available

1732
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: here is because Jamal Charlo's hurt and hasn't been in

1733
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: the ring since the Montiell fight. You talk about making

1734
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 1: a statement, cutting through this guy in three rounds, showing

1735
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 1: a new and improved you know me, showing a mental folkness,

1736
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 1: an intention, a sharp shooting ability, and to find out

1737
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 1: him and his wife lost their infant daughter like within

1738
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 1: the last month during training camp passed away. I mean

1739
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: that this is as tragic as it can be. Luke.

1740
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: You know, like we get sent those press emails every

1741
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: once in a while with the quotes from the you know,

1742
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 1: from the public workout or from the press conference, and

1743
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 1: you can go back in hindsight and you can watch

1744
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: a guy that got knocked out in the first round.

1745
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 1: What was he saying before the fight? Probably that he's

1746
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: gonna come in there and win by knockout.

1747
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 2: Right.

1748
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 1: I did go back and read what Adamas was saying

1749
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: coming into this, and it was like, damn, we maybe

1750
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: should have saw this coming. He specifically said, I want

1751
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: all of those watching to realize that I'm not a

1752
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 1: boring fighter that just likes to win on points. I'm

1753
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 1: coming to make a statement with a vicious knockout, putting

1754
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: the entire division on notice. Everyone watching this fight is

1755
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: gonna love my style because I bring excitement. Other quotes

1756
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: were just all that same direction of like I'm coming

1757
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: in there to knock him out and show you guys

1758
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 1: who I really am. He's changed. Carlos Adamis is for

1759
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 1: real now. How fired up is their next fight?

1760
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 2: To make it?

1761
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 1: It's got to be him and Jamal Charlo, it's gotta

1762
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 1: be the for the full title. Do you look at

1763
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 1: him as a real threat because he's already said I'll

1764
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 1: knock Charlo the hell up.

1765
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 2: I absolutely do. Now Charlo is heavy handed, and I

1766
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 2: wonder how that might go. Also, Montielle walks into stuff

1767
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 2: that I don't think Charlo would. However, here's what occurred

1768
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 2: to me watching this fight, which only went three rounds

1769
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 2: by the way, I mean, which is even more remarkable

1770
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 2: because if you watch the first round, they got booed

1771
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 2: by the crowd. The crowd boot him because it was

1772
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 2: very thoughtful. A damis taking his time seeing what he's got.

1773
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: It wasn't n til the second round and began to turn.

1774
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 2: On the third round, he just finished him off like

1775
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 2: he was nothing. Very surprising that he got it done

1776
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 2: that quickly. I will say that you see, here's what

1777
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: struck me, and you can see this in any kind

1778
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 2: of combat sport, kickboxing, MMA and any kind of striking sport.

1779
01:19:54,680 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 2: Especially adamis looked both very I will say, hyper focused

1780
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 2: and mean at the same time. Right now. Often there's

1781
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 2: a trade off there where guys want to fight mean

1782
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 2: they kind of just bite down on the mouthpiece and

1783
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 2: go and they have to sacrifice a little bit of

1784
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 2: strategy in order to do that, or they're hyper focused,

1785
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 2: they're very carefully jabbing and you know, not taking too

1786
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 2: much damage to be able to do both of those.

1787
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: To combine that mentality where you're fighting very aggressively and

1788
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: landing very hard, like you are clearly trying to do

1789
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 2: serious damage to a guy, and yet to be sharp

1790
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 2: and strategic. That is not so easy to do, especially

1791
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 2: obviously against high level opposition. And I thought Adamis was

1792
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,719
Speaker 2: both of those at the same time, which is why

1793
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 2: he was able to get a guy out like this.

1794
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 2: You called montiel a bowl. I think it's exactly what

1795
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 2: he is. He got a bull out of there by

1796
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 2: doing both of those at the same time. Not easy

1797
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 2: to do at all. He was a man possessed that

1798
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 2: evening dude.

1799
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 1: That's I mean, that is a look at me now performance.

1800
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: Because people that used to watch when Adamis was with

1801
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: top rank and.

1802
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 2: It was a little bit lackluster at times.

1803
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: To be cool, yes with you, when he was at

1804
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 1: one fifty four, it was like, you know, okay, like

1805
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: he he looks like he should be fun. He's not

1806
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: always fun. I think that he's had the change. You know,

1807
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 1: he's been through setbacks. Now the personal setback, he had

1808
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 1: something to fight for. Now he's got this interim title.

1809
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: It's time to make the Charlo fight. Oh god, this

1810
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: is this If this guy is for real, Luke, he's

1811
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 1: a real threat in this division and I do want

1812
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,680
Speaker 1: to pour one out quickly though for uh I mean

1813
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: mantiol Luk. He's I mean, it's not a sustainable style

1814
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: Luke long term, but he is willing to. I mean, dude,

1815
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 1: he's a cowboy. I mean this is like damn right.

1816
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 1: I mean he's willing to. He's willing to take your

1817
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 1: best shit and see if you're tough enough to hang

1818
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: around for a while.

1819
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 2: Well, problem was a Damas was Yeah, the problem was

1820
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 2: a Domas was happy to do that. So good, good

1821
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,839
Speaker 2: win for Adamis. And if they make a Domis versus

1822
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 2: Charlo next, be more than excited to watch.

1823
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: Oh he also called a triple G after a Domis did,

1824
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 1: so there's that.

1825
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:09,560
Speaker 2: Well yeah, all right, all right, quick hitters, we'll go

1826
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 2: through these relatively quickly. Let me get to the questions here. BC.

1827
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: Patty Pimblet is looking to return at UFC two eighty two.

1828
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 2: I believe I have my notes up here. That'll be

1829
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 2: December tenth in Las Vegas. He did make an interesting

1830
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 2: point about it. He's like, Dude, no one's gonna say

1831
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 2: no to a fight with me, one because I got

1832
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 2: the hype, and two because they all think they can

1833
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 2: beat me. I have to say he's right. I can't

1834
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 2: imagine that anyone would say no to a fight with

1835
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 2: Patty really at any level of the fight game in

1836
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 2: the UFC. They would all want it for any number

1837
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 2: of reasons. I would love to see him back. Have

1838
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 2: you thought about a fight that makes sense? I've been

1839
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 2: on the Drew Dober bandwagon to get Dobra a fight

1840
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 2: with Patty. Is there a better name out there that

1841
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 2: you could think of?

1842
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: That's about right? Because what is beautiful about the current

1843
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 1: flavor of his marketing potential? And you and I think

1844
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 1: at first were like, oh, man, cause it's kind of

1845
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: an annoying gimmick. I don't think he's for real. He

1846
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 1: hasn't fully proven the for real but he's made enough

1847
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 1: strides in certain key areas where you're like, oh, okay,

1848
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 1: so this is I understand this character a little bit

1849
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: more so you're still gonna have the polarizing people to

1850
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 1: come see you win and celebrate just as much as

1851
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 1: people come to see you get knocked the hell out.

1852
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: But while you're talking about these shorter immediate like Okay,

1853
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 1: prove this now and then keep comming, I'll prove it here,

1854
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: and here's a Fight Night main event, and prove it here. Oh,

1855
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: here's the ESPN prelim Pope pay per view featured about

1856
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean, there's different ladders to get there.

1857
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 1: When he says me versus Connor McGregor, next could be

1858
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: the biggest pay per view fight in UFC history. I'm sorry,

1859
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,839
Speaker 1: not history. I'll take that back. Could be the biggest

1860
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: fight you can make right now, pay per view buys wise.

1861
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: What do you react? How do you react to that?

1862
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 2: You mean, like of existing permutations you could.

1863
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: Make, Like if you know, we're waiting, what the hell

1864
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 1: is McGregor kind of gonna come back against? What's it

1865
01:23:58,680 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 1: gonna be?

1866
01:23:59,080 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 2: When?

1867
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: What's it gonna look like? Are they ever gonna test him? Okay?

1868
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: How about next against Patty Pimblet, a guy who might

1869
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: be that next big crossover star? Is he right?

1870
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? I guess that might be true, but like the

1871
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 2: fight would I mean, here's the thing, right, if they

1872
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 2: made Jones versus John Jones versus Francis and Ghanu, it's like, okay,

1873
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 2: it's Connor versus Patty bigger certainly would a big bigger

1874
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 2: overseas in Europe and the UK and the Ireland. In Ireland,

1875
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 2: excuse me, So okay, that would be true maybe, but

1876
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 2: like the fight would lack any of the same significance

1877
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 2: that Jones versus Francis would. And I understand that pay

1878
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 2: per view sales are often not in any way overlapping

1879
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 2: with fight significance. I don't know, like, how would you

1880
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 2: what would what would sell more? I guess is the question, right?

1881
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 2: What would sell?

1882
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying it for John Francis. Look frustrating

1883
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 1: for me to intervene and introduce this topic in the

1884
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 1: midst of this quick hitter. Is you know, there's gonna

1885
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are just gonna throw up hearing that.

1886
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 1: They're like, f that, what are you talking about? But

1887
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 1: I do wonder if you know, maybe he's not wrong.

1888
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 1: Maybe if you did combine their two persons right now,

1889
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: it could be the biggest pay per view sell you

1890
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 1: can do right now, even with what you said Jones

1891
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:09,480
Speaker 1: and Conna, which would mean so much, would mean a shitload.

1892
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 1: But you know, unless you're doing Connor Nate three or

1893
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 1: Connor habib Tu right now, this might be it. So Luke,

1894
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Speaker 1: we don't know what connor situation is gonna be, but

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Speaker 1: his brand is so valuable to the UFC, either as

1896
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Speaker 1: a standalone just for curiosity in a situation where you

1897
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Speaker 1: give him another cowboy like soft comeback to try to

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Speaker 1: make him look great again, or you can use what's

1899
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Speaker 1: left of his brand for good. Dude, isn't this how

1900
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 1: you make your pay per view stars by feeding them

1901
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Speaker 1: to the old names? I mean, wouldn't this you said

1902
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Speaker 1: it wouldn't be as big as John and Gonna certainly

1903
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 1: not in meaning and titles, but in terms of that

1904
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 1: handoff of the pay per view King Baton? Is that

1905
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 1: not like if he fought.

1906
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Speaker 2: Connor, he hasn't beat we're talking about like, hey.

1907
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Speaker 1: But that's the that's the potential. What I'm saying is

1908
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if your data, you got to weigh this.

1909
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Speaker 1: If Connor, you know, it's a big event no matter what.

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Speaker 1: And if Connor went okay, he's back. But if Patty wins,

1911
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Speaker 1: how big that?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What does he become from that?

1914
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 2: He becomes something absolutely enormous if that were to happen

1915
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 2: in the way in what you're describing. But it seems

1916
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:17,719
Speaker 2: so premature, so premature, all right, let us just think.

1917
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 1: About it, Just simmer on that for a couple of days.

1918
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Speaker 1: Get back to that Wednesday.

1919
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Speaker 2: How about this one UFC two eighty three, Johnny Walker

1920
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Speaker 2: versus Paul Craig. Gotta tell you BC ain't nothing wrong

1921
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 2: with Walker versus Craig. Love love that light heavyweight contest.

1922
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Speaker 2: Do you share my enthusiastic Yeah.

1923
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Speaker 1: Look, styles always inevitably make fights. This has got such

1924
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 1: a hell of contrast in styles. And then you add

1925
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Speaker 1: it into that the fact that Johnny Walker has shown

1926
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Speaker 1: it from both intention and now execution, an increased ground game.

1927
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Speaker 1: It took a while. I mean, the last couple of

1928
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 1: fights weren't overly showing you that his wrestling is going

1929
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 1: to be there, you know, but the submission win did

1930
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 1: seem to show a different different level of focus and

1931
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Speaker 1: confidence and everything. So you put that up a against

1932
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 1: Paul Craig. Spiderweb, leave a message. I'll call you back,

1933
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 1: Luke I'm gonna be watching this fight.

1934
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Bobby Green has accepted a USADA sanction

1935
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 2: of just six months. I think he's eligible to come

1936
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,560
Speaker 2: back like next month or so. He BC he was

1937
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 2: able to prove that he pot positive for dh e

1938
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 2: A from a supplement he bought at Walmart. I have

1939
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 2: to tell you, of all the places to buy supplements,

1940
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:26,759
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I wouldn't ever do it from Walmart,

1941
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 2: but it wouldn't be first on my list to b C.

1942
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1943
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: You think it was a branded, great value. You think

1944
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: it was that brand, Luke.

1945
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 2: Just like you just I mean the worst kind of

1946
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 2: creatine imaginable, you.

1947
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, great great value creatine by one.

1948
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 2: Well the last thing you bought from Walmart? Last thing,

1949
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 2: I know what the answer is for me, because they

1950
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,759
Speaker 2: put one not far from where I live here.

1951
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 1: Soil for the ground, Yeah, to plant, like to plant ship. Yeah,

1952
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: there you go.

1953
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 2: I got floaties for my daughter so she could you know,

1954
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 2: go into THEO and not drowned.

1955
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: See that's both the responsible parent purchase and a little

1956
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 1: bit white trash.

1957
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 2: I like it, Luke, Okay, yeap, certainly is I certainly

1958
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 2: I certainly was dubt up in that bit, all right. BC.

1959
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 2: UFC two eighty four is reported to be held in Perth, Australia.

1960
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 2: I don't have a big take on this, so you

1961
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 2: have to say that's where they're gonna put it. By

1962
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 2: the way, you can see the UFC is going on

1963
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 2: the road a little bit more next year, which is

1964
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 2: nice to see. But on top of that, BC, I

1965
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 2: don't know if you remember this. The last time they were

1966
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 2: in Perth was four years ago. I believe Jimmy Smith

1967
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,679
Speaker 2: was on that call. I think that was. I could

1968
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 2: be wrong about this. I think that was one of

1969
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 2: the Whittaker Romero fights something like that, but.

1970
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 1: Yes, was the reason I bring it. Hooker on that

1971
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: card too, or did I just make that.

1972
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 2: Could have been. But the reason I bring it up

1973
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 2: is because it's, uh, it's at I think the western edge.

1974
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 2: I'll double check here, but it's at the western edge

1975
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 2: of Australia. And John Annick, who I was following on

1976
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 2: Instagram still LAMB at the time, was detailing his travel

1977
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,839
Speaker 2: to get there and it was the most fucking insane

1978
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 2: thing I'd ever seen him my life. He was on

1979
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 2: his hands and knees and he typed. I think one

1980
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 2: of his captions was like uncle, right, just just calling uncle,

1981
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 2: crying uncle by the time he got there. But I

1982
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:12,719
Speaker 2: am I will say this, happy to see the UFC

1983
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 2: back on the road a little bit more, especially for

1984
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 2: that Australian market. It's a big it's a great place.

1985
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: I agree with that, and I think Mark Haunt was

1986
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: on that card as well. Look, if I'm not misspoken

1987
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 1: or mistaken, Luke, would you agree with me that for

1988
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 1: as much as we enjoy the potential of a back

1989
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 1: to back Best MMA Programming Award? And you know, I

1990
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: don't care. You know who's coming after us. I'm ready

1991
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 1: to look for blood and an attack.

1992
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 2: You know.

1993
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: Submission Radio could deserve a nomination in this category.

1994
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:45,560
Speaker 2: They, I mean, easily one of the most underrated podcasts

1995
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 2: or YouTube channels. However you want to look at what

1996
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 2: they do. They got hammered too because they were coming

1997
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 2: to a lot of the events here Stateside, and because

1998
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 2: of the pandemic, they've kind of been on ice for

1999
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 2: a little while. But I'd love to see I told him, man,

2000
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:00,719
Speaker 2: I would love see him out again. We'll get some beers.

2001
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 2: I was hoping they would come to the New York show.

2002
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:03,639
Speaker 2: I don't think that's happening though, so.

2003
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 1: They they go after it. In terms of guests, you know,

2004
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: when a guest does their show, it's always one of

2005
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 1: those must see fight week interviews, you know. So I

2006
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: give him a lot of credit.

2007
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, so let's see what else we have

2008
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 2: on here. Uh okay. Petricky Pittbull says that Uspin Nimergamaidov

2009
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 2: he's happy to find. I want to be clear about this,

2010
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 2: and they are have to have a fight coming up.

2011
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 2: But he was like, he's only getting this title shot

2012
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 2: on name alone. He hasn't beaten anyone in the top ten.

2013
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 2: And I was like, I think that's true. Let me

2014
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 2: double check, BC. I don't know about the part about

2015
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 2: the name, although he's probably right it is true. Usma

2016
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 2: Nimberamadov's best win is Chris Gonzales, which is a nice one,

2017
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 2: to be clear, But he doesn't have any wins over

2018
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 2: anyone in the top ten. A little bit too soon

2019
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 2: for him, what do you think?

2020
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 1: Well, look, it's it's this is one. This is what

2021
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 1: you call fast tracking. Okay for sure, And if he

2022
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 1: looks like you know, could he be the goods and

2023
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 1: also you get Habib as his you know, trainer, cousin

2024
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 1: and cornerman, carrying on the tradition of the late abdulm

2025
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 1: that does that also potentially create a ratings boon if

2026
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,839
Speaker 1: he is as nasty as he looks and becomes your champion.

2027
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 1: Now I think all things are correct, Luke. Yeah, it

2028
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 1: is a little quick, but at the same time he's

2029
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 1: absolutely dominating people, and it looks like he's the next hand.

2030
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 1: Where's my cupboard, Luke? Can I get a cupboard with

2031
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 1: just another and I'll just get out another hammer? Holy hammer, Luke? Okay, right,

2032
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:26,879
Speaker 1: I mean damn damn crop, holy hammer. You know, yeah,

2033
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: all right, there you go. There it is.

2034
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 2: I would agree. I tend by the way. I think

2035
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 2: he's gonna win too, So maybe maybe we're crazy, and

2036
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 2: I understand his point, but I was like, all right,

2037
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 2: and then I.

2038
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: Mean who else? The question is who should have got

2039
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,560
Speaker 1: it instead of him? Look, that's the question.

2040
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 2: You could have said Tofique Musaiev because he had the

2041
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 2: win over Sydney Outlaw, and Sydney Outlaw is ranked and

2042
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 2: Mousaiah ran over him. But he's only got the one

2043
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 2: belator fight, So you could do that, but here's my thought.

2044
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 2: I think Meade is gonna win, and then you could

2045
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 2: just do Member Gamado versus Mussaiah, which is also just

2046
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 2: you know, the battle of the Hammer.

2047
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so all, here's the deal. You know, Scott Coker

2048
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 1: is a co worker of ours technically under the paramount

2049
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 1: banner and shout out to is he that my coworker?

2050
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 1: And I've you know, I love interviewed a million times,

2051
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:19,679
Speaker 1: always got love for Scott Coker. But on the show,

2052
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 1: it's our job to tell you if you know matchmaking

2053
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 1: is done right or wrong, or have an opinion on this,

2054
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 1: this is a win. This is one of those Scott

2055
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 1: Coker wins. It would be promotional malpractice if he did

2056
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: it the other way, Luke, this is the way. This

2057
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 1: is the way.

2058
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 2: Okay, I would tend to agree with you. I would.

2059
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 2: And by the way, for folks being like yeah fought anybody,

2060
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, he's about to because Patrika is a

2061
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 2: tough guy and I think it was gonna win.

2062
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 1: But we also get a beab in a bellatour shirt, Luke.

2063
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 1: Not a bad idea, Not a bad.

2064
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 2: Idea, Okay, exactly exactly. You got it, filling it out though,

2065
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 2: filling out that belatour shirt. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, man,

2066
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 2: may he may not be having any beer, but he's

2067
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:49,679
Speaker 2: definitely been having a future.

2068
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, come out. This ain't no Daniel Cormier level, Luke,

2069
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 1: but shout out to DC getting that much.

2070
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:57,599
Speaker 2: There are two things you love more than anything else

2071
01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 2: in life, aside from boxing. Number one probably abhorrent stocking

2072
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 2: of female fighters on Instagram. That's one, and two fat

2073
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 2: shaming Daniel Cormier has to be one of your favorite things.

2074
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 1: Ever, that's not fair. You can't prove that. It's you

2075
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean? You know, have you seen the ship?

2076
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 2: Can't prove it. It's just a suspicion that I have.

2077
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go.

2078
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 2: All right, time for you guys to ask us question.

2079
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 2: We put up an Instagram post every Sunday. You fill

2080
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 2: it up the producer's pick questions. It's DM for one.

2081
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 1: Let's get to it all right, we'll do that other

2082
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 1: thing later.

2083
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 2: Oh waight now the reading. Yes, sorry, my bad, let's

2084
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 2: do it very quickly. I apologize. Before we get to

2085
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the first question here on

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Speaker 2: DMS from donks. This comes to us from at Joe

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Speaker 2: Brian nineteen ninety Gee. I wonder who is this and

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Speaker 2: whether what year there were born? Do you think olivera

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Speaker 2: will have issues making weight or do you think he's

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Speaker 1: I mean? Look, it's it's helped my black liver stay

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Speaker 1: and function, Luke, and it's helped me to clean up

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Speaker 1: my life every morning. It could do the same for

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Speaker 1: Charlie olives. Either that or I got three letters for you,

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Speaker 1: Luke Chef kas Okay, I.

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Speaker 2: Gotta tell you. I think uh, I think he'll be

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Speaker 2: just fine. I really do. I mean, one never knows,

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Speaker 2: because you're right, mm's crazy. But I think we're gonna

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Speaker 2: get Oliver versus Makachev. I don't know if we're gonna

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Speaker 2: get any way in Shenanigans. I just I feel pretty

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Speaker 2: good about it. Fee pretty good maybe yeh. Who the

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Speaker 2: fuck knows? All right? From patient Panda, I, how are

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Speaker 2: you feeling about Mohammad versus Brady being on the prelims

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Speaker 2: and who wins. Is that on the fucking prelimbs, let's

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Speaker 2: double check that, or.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not getting a tattoo if that fights

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Speaker 1: on the prelims.

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Speaker 2: Come on, UFC, No, you can't, you can't. You can't

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Speaker 2: do that. So as it stands, the main card, fucking a,

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Speaker 2: it's the main event of the prelims. Jesus. Yeah, they've

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Speaker 2: got Chukegian versus Fro leading the main card. And I

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Speaker 2: understand that because that's a highly ranked fight for the

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Speaker 2: women's flyweight division. But just in terms of my interest level,

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Speaker 2: I personally would prefer it to not be there. But

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Speaker 2: I kind of get it. I kind of get it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you see what tattoo you're gonna get if Brady wins.

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Speaker 2: Have you thought about it? How it started? Motherfucker, it's

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Speaker 2: two weeks away. You started to putting some some mental

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Speaker 2: energy into that.

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, showtime picking up the bill. Second

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Speaker 1: of all, how big am I required to get to

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Speaker 1: get this tattoo?

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Speaker 2: I think it could be quite small if you wanted

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Speaker 2: it to be. Yeah, all right, all right, you could

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Speaker 2: get my signature on your face. You know.

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Speaker 1: You know that. In addition to Damian the Donk who

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Speaker 1: has the MK tattoo among some you know, gory ones. Luke,

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Speaker 1: uh Our guy gaff has a tremendous K tad on him.

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Speaker 2: Luke, I have seen that. Yeah, it's pretty pretty goddamn impressive.

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Speaker 1: So and Tristan added another you know animal that can

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Speaker 1: kill you onto his left arm. It looks really good.

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Speaker 2: Actually I didn't see that, did he really?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he put a deer on his bicep. He said

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Speaker 1: it hurt like shit, and the deer looks angry.

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Speaker 2: Luke, Yeah, that the inside of the bicep is a very,

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Speaker 2: very very sensitive area. That's a hard one to get,

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Speaker 2: all right from Denny LeBlanc Double O seven. This guy

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Speaker 2: definitely works in an office. What two fighters are fighting

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Speaker 2: each other for the third or fourth time for a title?

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Speaker 2: Excuse me? When two fighters are fighting each other for

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Speaker 2: a third or fourth time for a title? Is that

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Speaker 2: exposing a weak division? Obviously he's making reference to Figgie

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Speaker 2: and Marino.

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Speaker 1: Four. If if Askarov had beaten h you know KK France,

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Speaker 1: or if you know France had defeated Kyle Frantz had

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Speaker 1: defeated uh moreno, we wouldn't be here. It's just the

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Speaker 1: way things played out. This is a very fun division.

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Speaker 1: This is Come on, Denny LeBlanc. I mean, this is like,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, maybe he is the.

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Speaker 2: Case that they are making. So it is always at

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Speaker 2: least something we're thinking about. Or if you're going back

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Speaker 2: this many times to the well, what else is in

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Speaker 2: the well? Fair enough?

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Speaker 1: The well is fucking fantastic though. Okay, the well has

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Speaker 1: given us three incredible fights, like, yeah, we'll do a

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Speaker 1: fourth and if Moreno wins. He's this he's a hero.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's you know, he's a Mexican hero, Luke.

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Speaker 1: So this is this is what you do when you're on,

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Speaker 1: when you're promoting. Look, well, you know, I don't who

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Speaker 1: cares about four minute commercials. You got to give the

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Speaker 1: promoters respect when they get it right. They got it

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Speaker 1: right here, Okay, Danny, come and come on.

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Speaker 2: All right? All right from Jack McGinn. What makes the difference? Now,

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Speaker 2: listen to the question between the modern and not modern

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Speaker 2: era in sports. He's not just saying UFC, he's saying

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Speaker 2: in sports more generally, you see, how would you tackle that?

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Speaker 1: I think it depends on the sport to be really fair?

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Speaker 2: All right, So give me an example of some demarcation

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Speaker 2: lines in sports. You watch.

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Speaker 1: H Pro football, it's certainly the protection of the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: which has made passing and receiving statistics absurd, right.

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Speaker 2: Right, that'd be one. What about basketball, that's another one.

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Speaker 1: You watch, Yeah, right around two thousand and three. I

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Speaker 1: think the hangover from the incredible nineties lasted lasted pretty

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Speaker 1: long because the Lakers won that that the Trilogy championships.

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Speaker 1: But I think the change in rules, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I love nineties NBA like like anybody, but it became

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Speaker 1: a defensive grind down half court, you know, pick and

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Speaker 1: roll or post up situation, and that wasn't great for

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Speaker 1: global you know, potential of ratings and cashing in on

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Speaker 1: the money. So they opened the lane up and it

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Speaker 1: produced this wild and crazy era we have today where

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Speaker 1: a guy like Steph Curry can become, you know, like

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Speaker 1: Steve Nash MVP let alone, becoming like a you know,

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Speaker 1: all time great. And but that doesn't you know, Steph

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Speaker 1: Curry's gonna end up, you know, on his back hurt

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Speaker 1: shooting free throws in nineteen ninety four. Okay, so like

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Speaker 1: the game change with the change in the defensive rule,

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Speaker 1: the lack you know, the three seconds, which allowed teams

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Speaker 1: to essentially play zone. That was a big part. And

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Speaker 1: then the you know, continued movement to keep that lane

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Speaker 1: open so that little guys can with no longer a

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Speaker 1: hand check to slow them down. I mean, the heck

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Speaker 1: they put Derek Harper out of business, the greatest hand

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Speaker 1: checker in NBA history. But that opened that game up.

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Speaker 1: So I think there is a you know, there's a

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Speaker 1: line there. Boxing has been pretty actually pretty consistent, Luke.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's you know, the line is really the

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Speaker 1: heavyweight division because of the super heavyweights we've had beginning

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Speaker 1: in the nineties. But you know, pretty much boxing is

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Speaker 1: about the same. And when do you think let's let's

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Speaker 1: stay in MMA and obviously looking mostly through the UFC lens,

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Speaker 1: what do you think is the cutoff? And it could

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Speaker 1: be also the marketing cutoff and the you know, when

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Speaker 1: they became household name and people accept them now as

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Speaker 1: one of the major sports. What do you look back

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Speaker 1: as the beginning of this UFC era.

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Speaker 2: Twenty eleven probably starting with Fox okay, but there's another

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Speaker 2: one before that, I would say, so Ultimate Fighter to

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Speaker 2: twenty eleven would be one kind of era. I don't

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Speaker 2: know I'm not sure what the modern era would be

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Speaker 2: classification in there could be different views about what the

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Speaker 2: true or broader modern era is. Certainly you would have

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Speaker 2: to have the unified rules, which would be Jersey two thousand,

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Speaker 2: two thousand and one, right, that would be a bare minimum.

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Speaker 2: You'd have to have that. All the weight classes are

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Speaker 2: in there, it's regulated, that kind of a thing. And

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Speaker 2: then two thousand and five is the Ultimate Fighter. Twenty

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Speaker 2: eleven it goes to Fox, and I think that changed

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Speaker 2: a lot. Also for women, I went, dude, this is true.

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Speaker 2: When I first started watching women's MMA, it was three

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Speaker 2: minute rounds. It was fucking bullshit. So certainly for them

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Speaker 2: it wasn't until the rules got adapted to match the

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Speaker 2: men's game and then also adding the five rounds on

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Speaker 2: top of it too. So somewhere in that's two thousand

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Speaker 2: and nine ish twenty eleven space, I think, Yeah, our

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Speaker 2: newest era that we're in.

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Speaker 1: Our producers are trying to put the put it as

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Speaker 1: the Reebok era started the new trend. I think that's

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Speaker 1: just part of it. Okay, it's part of that. It's

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Speaker 1: all connected there, yeah, but really like that part of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, you could argue that the timing was that

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Speaker 1: LESNI was the bridge between the two eras. Is that incorrect?

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Speaker 2: I would agree, I very much agree with that. Yes, okay, yes,

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Speaker 2: very much so. So you're just trying to see, like,

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Speaker 2: what are some seminal events or changes that essentially make

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01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 2: the sport different or usher in a new wave of

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01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 2: talent that itself makes the sport different or rules or whatever.

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Speaker 2: And then there's this whole batch of fights that happened afterwards,

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Speaker 2: and there's another seminal event. Those are some of the

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Speaker 2: eras you're looking for, let's see. And then last but

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Speaker 2: not least to b see. Good question from CLP Film.

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Speaker 2: Since it's Halloween season, which, by the way, one of

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Speaker 2: the most underrated seasons of the year. Halloween should be

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Speaker 2: a holiday just my personal opinion.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's part of the best of the four seasons

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01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:43,760
Speaker 1: by far luke, so it's a big part you.

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Speaker 2: Know to some people to huge Well, we don't get

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Speaker 2: it off. That's why it's kind of bullshit. But anyway,

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01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:51,479
Speaker 2: what are your favorite horror films? Good question.

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Speaker 1: We've tickled this before, and you know, I'm not a

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Speaker 1: horror genre you know, historical expert, and might have shitty

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01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 1: opinions to those that are. But you know, Halloween one

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01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 1: is just like in a separate category for so many reasons,

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Speaker 1: as a pioneer, as just a you know, changing the

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Speaker 1: way we can look at that. I mean, obviously something

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Speaker 1: like Psycho if you want to go back further, certainly could.

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Speaker 1: But of what I've seen in modern times, and it's

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Speaker 1: not everything. And yeah, I got hooked on those teen

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Speaker 1: slasher horror movies, Luke, the Screams and I know what

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Speaker 1: you did last summer because they put really hot chicks

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Speaker 1: in there. What are we gonna do? Luke? And they're

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01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 1: also pretty good too. But the first Saw film, I

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Speaker 1: think is uh is just horror genius. If this question

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Speaker 1: is pointing you only though to Halloween specific related I mean,

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Speaker 1: has there what what am I I don't know the

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Speaker 1: modern canon? So what am I missing?

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Speaker 2: Luke? I'm not a big horror expert either at all.

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01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 2: I would say Texas Chainsaw Masker got to be on

2315
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 2: that list. You're right, the first Halloween is excellent. You know,

2316
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:58,720
Speaker 2: do you want to put Freddy Krueger, not Marion elm

2317
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:00,559
Speaker 2: Street series on that? I guess you have to.

2318
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they had a they had a uh,

2319
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 1: they had a commercial and cultural impact. I don't know

2320
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 1: if anyone would.

2321
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 2: It was never that big on Freddy Krueger being all

2322
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:10,960
Speaker 2: that interesting a character, to be quite honest with you.

2323
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he felt like the go about comparison to the Transformers,

2324
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, to looking at like he was the Hey,

2325
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 1: Jason is everything. People love frid Of the thirteenth. We

2326
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: need a new crazier version, Mountain Dew extreme version. Right, Yeah,

2327
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 1: that was what Freddy Krueger was. It was scary as

2328
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 1: hell at that age. Let's give him credit.

2329
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 2: It was, yes, yeah, because the thing is he got

2330
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 2: you in your dreams, and that was always like really yeah.

2331
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 1: I mean the first Chucky is pretty awesome.

2332
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 2: Let's be fair, Okay, I fucking hated I always thought

2333
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:36,799
Speaker 2: that was so funny.

2334
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 1: No, I even saw a Bride of Chucky in the theater,

2335
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 1: and I'm not embarrassed by that fact. I got a

2336
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 1: free ticket, but I brought snuck in six different cans

2337
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:42,680
Speaker 1: of beer.

2338
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 2: Luke. I mean, I'm not being shameless. Is not a

2339
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 2: great thing, want to be very I mean I'm also

2340
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 2: not shameless in certain ways.

2341
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 1: But you see Bride of Chucky when that guy steps

2342
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 1: out into the highway and gets splattered by the motor

2343
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:54,240
Speaker 1: home coming by I mean, it's it's just tremendous. It's

2344
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:55,480
Speaker 1: just it's unbelievable.

2345
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:57,839
Speaker 2: I will say that one movie I saw on Netflix

2346
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:00,680
Speaker 2: Netflix recently, my brother told to me, and I'm not

2347
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 2: again he would know better than me, but he was

2348
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 2: telling me that, like the people who are the very

2349
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:08,120
Speaker 2: best at horror movies, apparently as Korean cinema. Now, I've

2350
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:11,759
Speaker 2: only seen one that I thought would fit. It's on Netflix.

2351
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 2: It's called Well, here's what I'm told about the Koreans.

2352
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:18,200
Speaker 2: I'm told that their cinema is like intensely scary and

2353
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 2: intensely gory.

2354
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 1: Are you talking about North South Korea?

2355
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 2: Lu of course South Korea. Have you seen Trained to Busan?

2356
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 2: It's a zombie flick. Have you seen that?

2357
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 1: Obviously not? Okay, I have.

2358
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:31,760
Speaker 2: It's on Netflix. I'm not like, this is not some

2359
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:34,680
Speaker 2: like esoteric movie. You got pretty wide American distribution?

2360
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 1: Did did?

2361
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 2: Did?

2362
01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 1: Did Kurswa consult on this?

2363
01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 2: Luke carswas Japanese? Also? Dead Trained to Busan is recent,

2364
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:44,720
Speaker 2: so that that would yeah, I.

2365
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 1: Was I wasn't making that length based on their origin

2366
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:48,840
Speaker 1: of countries, So you don't have to make me look

2367
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 1: like I like I'm an ignorant.

2368
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 2: Well, don't ask.

2369
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:53,040
Speaker 1: I do a good enough job of that on my own.

2370
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so I'm I'm trained to busan as a

2371
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:59,559
Speaker 2: zombie flick. If you're into zombie flicks. That one was

2372
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:02,559
Speaker 2: fuck intense to be, to be quite honest with you.

2373
01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 2: Beyond that, though, well, you know what, you know what,

2374
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 2: it's like a fun horror movie. It's not I wouldn't

2375
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 2: call it the very best by any stretch, but like

2376
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 2: kind of fun. You ever seen Cabin in the Woods.

2377
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

2378
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 2: It starts out as like a spoof of like teen

2379
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:24,599
Speaker 2: horror movies, like almost comically to that effect, like they're

2380
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 2: definitely like wink wink, nudge, nudge in on it. And

2381
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:30,120
Speaker 2: then the whole tide turns and you're like, what am

2382
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:32,280
Speaker 2: I watching? This is not what I thought? It was

2383
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:34,720
Speaker 2: at all? Pretty fun, pretty fun little movie, Cabin in

2384
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:35,719
Speaker 2: the Woods. Check that out.

2385
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 1: My favorite horror movie in the eighties was April Fool's Day.

2386
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 2: You remember that one, Luke, I don't, I don't, all right,

2387
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 2: all right?

2388
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:44,679
Speaker 1: It was it was good people that know they know Okay,

2389
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 1: you know nineteen eighty six. Yeah, yeah, check it out.

2390
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:51,040
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, that's it for us. For DM's time

2391
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 2: for BC's specs. Let's do it.

2392
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is how we close the show on Mondays.

2393
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 1: Your boy scoured the globe yesterday. It was there was

2394
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 1: a small globe because there wasn't a lot of combat sports.

2395
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 1: So this is the good, the bad, the ugly in

2396
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:05,040
Speaker 1: some combat but largely beyond. We call this. Have you

2397
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 1: have you seen this ship bcs oh ow oh yeah, Luke,

2398
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:15,839
Speaker 1: we get we're not starting with the big ticket items

2399
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:18,959
Speaker 1: because there wasn't many, So let's go regional MMA KOs

2400
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 1: of the week. These are the Koposa specials. Shout out

2401
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 1: to Gribaca Hitman. Look this from the MMA GP promotion.

2402
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:30,600
Speaker 1: Cedric Saravak just laying out David Karp. I mean he

2403
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 1: turned him into a dead fish. I think Sean Salmon

2404
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 1: just rolled over somewhere.

2405
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 2: Luke just stepped right, I mean he gave that was

2406
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 2: a little Draymond Green Jordan.

2407
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:41,960
Speaker 1: Poole, Yeah, yeah, that was that. That was in fact,

2408
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:46,400
Speaker 1: damn that actually looked like remember when Jermaine O'Neil lined

2409
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:48,599
Speaker 1: up that fattoo during the Palace brawl kind of looked

2410
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 1: like that, you know, I mean he couldn't killed that.

2411
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 2: NBA Finals should be forced to fight its fans.

2412
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:58,639
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'm into that. Yeah, there you go. Let's

2413
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 1: go over to the to a promotion card called the

2414
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:07,639
Speaker 1: War four. Check out these headbuts from from Tomas uses

2415
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 1: the headbut to set up the jab knockdown. Hell yeah,

2416
01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:11,599
Speaker 1: right now?

2417
01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:14,719
Speaker 2: Are the headbuts legal in this Uh yes, God for place?

2418
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:18,040
Speaker 1: Because this guy Thomas was headbutton the shit and this

2419
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 1: other clip that I don't have, he was just going

2420
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 1: straight headbutts. This was unbelievable.

2421
01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weapon. It's not good for your brain,

2422
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:26,559
Speaker 2: but it is definitely a weapon.

2423
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 1: Wow.

2424
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 2: You ever see you ever seen a head butt in

2425
01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 2: the wild, like in real person, like in a street.

2426
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:33,759
Speaker 1: Fight, like if somebody tried to Third World?

2427
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 2: Another guy I saw, I saw one. I was not

2428
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 2: working at the bar. I was just there minum own

2429
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 2: business and in a fight broke out. There was actually

2430
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 2: here in DC and Adams Morgan. I won't even say

2431
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:44,640
Speaker 2: the bar, but anyone who knows the area. And this

2432
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 2: was like circa two thousand and eight seven or so,

2433
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:51,479
Speaker 2: which was that was when that place was fucking wild.

2434
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 2: And I saw a guy. This is true as fuck.

2435
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 2: These two dudes were kind of jawing at each other

2436
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah, getting separated. Pushing and shoving starts,

2437
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 2: so it's escalating, right, and one dude just rears back

2438
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 2: and leans into the other dude in head butts him

2439
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 2: and you could tell his head butty people before he

2440
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 2: hits this dude's nose and blood splattered. That's yeah, Jackson Pollock,

2441
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 2: it was I've never seen. It was maybe the best

2442
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 2: head butt of all time. It was. It was crazy.

2443
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 1: I was sitting like six feet away in a in

2444
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 1: a Manhattan restaurant and somebody got a glass broken over

2445
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 1: their head. I didn't see it though, but that that

2446
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 1: noise that was pretty loud. Yeah, you kind of knew

2447
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:29,719
Speaker 1: ship was going down when you heard that noise.

2448
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 2: You know that was that was wild.

2449
01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:35,559
Speaker 1: Let's keep it going here, Luke. This is from Venitour

2450
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 1: twelve Vanader Venator twelve.

2451
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Italian promotion.

2452
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 1: Well check out this kid.

2453
01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:43,439
Speaker 2: This kid, this kid who won They call him the Sniper.

2454
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 2: Forget his name, Michael PEGANI. If you pay attention to him,

2455
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 2: he is a very interesting prospect. This guy in the.

2456
01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:54,520
Speaker 1: Red dude, that is vicious right there, brutal.

2457
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 2: Dark bocks, I mean, brilliantly placed. This other guy was

2458
01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:59,959
Speaker 2: over committed and he lined him up with this absolute

2459
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 2: perfect All.

2460
01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:03,560
Speaker 1: Right, how about some weekend boxing KOs we had to

2461
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:07,200
Speaker 1: go to Russia with love to find uh, let him bang, bro,

2462
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:09,799
Speaker 1: it's justin Lane and Luke. He stepped in there against

2463
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 1: kickboxer turned bare knuckler turned actual boxer Vlad Tunov. Tween nov.

2464
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:18,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, but uh yeah, Julian Lane got splattered.

2465
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,759
Speaker 2: That's that's visual, not really showing the shot all that cleanly.

2466
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 2: He basically catches the left hook, excuse he catches the

2467
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 2: right hook from Lane and then because he knows that

2468
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:30,679
Speaker 2: that's open now because he caught it, he comes right

2469
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 2: back around pops him. Oh man, yeah, what a shot.

2470
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:36,400
Speaker 2: What a shot they did?

2471
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:39,559
Speaker 1: Let him bang. That's what happened, Luke. Greg Hardy is back.

2472
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:42,640
Speaker 1: He made his pro boxing debut against by half his

2473
01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:46,360
Speaker 1: size over the weekend. It turns out he's he's successful

2474
01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:49,400
Speaker 1: here too. This is a second round finish. Here's the

2475
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:51,599
Speaker 1: start of the second round. Greg Hardy in the black

2476
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 1: and yellow.

2477
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 2: Greg Hardy appears to be the size of the predator

2478
01:51:55,320 --> 01:52:00,000
Speaker 2: here as you would say, he's on that Daniel Cormier.

2479
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 1: Eating Yeah, he's still has still got that power though,

2480
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 1: and at this level it works. So, I mean, here's

2481
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 1: the thing, what would you say about his UFC run.

2482
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 1: He did prove as a dangerous striker. He definitely proved that.

2483
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that he cardio crashes to an alarming degree.

2484
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 2: And yeah he had no ground game really and yeah,

2485
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:23,400
Speaker 2: well good for you on beating a dude that probably

2486
01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 2: is not great. You know, I think it's probably fair

2487
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 2: to say, yeah, he's definitely not great.

2488
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:32,160
Speaker 1: KO of the Boxing KO of the Year contender out

2489
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:34,559
Speaker 1: of pro Box TV in South Florida over the weekend,

2490
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 1: here is Caesar Francis with the uppercut from Hades Perfection. Wow.

2491
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 2: Just waited for the jab and for him to step

2492
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:51,600
Speaker 2: into it. He was stepping too hard. Right steps in

2493
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 2: and just pops him. What a shot, Central Florida Boxing,

2494
01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:57,519
Speaker 2: pro Box TV.

2495
01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 1: Right there, Let's go to showtime Boxing cars to California.

2496
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:03,879
Speaker 1: This is what we talked about earlier with Carlos Adamis

2497
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 1: switching to Southall only this time he brought the power

2498
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:10,520
Speaker 1: with him. Just enjoy his crafty work on the finish.

2499
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 2: Here, Oh dude, he was sending Montiel left and right.

2500
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:20,720
Speaker 2: Montiel looked like a flag in the middle of a hurricane.

2501
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 2: I mean he was just getting whipped.

2502
01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 1: I mean, just a reminder. Montiel went twelve full rounds

2503
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 1: with Jamal Charlow. This was a third round finish from Adamis.

2504
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:30,800
Speaker 1: It was eye opening. So there you go.

2505
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:33,959
Speaker 2: This is not his dominant stance. His dominant stance is orthodox.

2506
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 2: He did all this largely from Southpaul. That's the most

2507
01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 2: impressive part.

2508
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 1: One of the most impressive parts of the night was

2509
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 1: the title rematch opener, when Fernando Martinez once again took

2510
01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 1: it to druwyin on Cajas, winning a second straight decision. Luke,

2511
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 1: check the swag. Can you rate the swag level here

2512
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:51,759
Speaker 1: on Argentina's.

2513
01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:59,760
Speaker 2: Son Hi Hi? Definitely high. He's got the uh, he's

2514
01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 2: got the Argentine colors at the flag there looks like

2515
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 2: a bit of a smurf. You know, not gonna lie,

2516
01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 2: but can.

2517
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:06,040
Speaker 1: We go through the screen?

2518
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:08,679
Speaker 2: Dude, look a thought. He fought like a fucking animal

2519
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 2: in this fight.

2520
01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:11,760
Speaker 1: Well one second on his fighting ability, look at his

2521
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 1: his promoter Marcos Madonna, the legend in the background. Dude,

2522
01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 1: the way these guys dressed, I got to start dressing

2523
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:19,559
Speaker 1: like these guys. Look, I got to become Argentinian. I

2524
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 1: know I'm already accepted with the Welsh. I know we've

2525
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:24,639
Speaker 1: got you know, French and Lithuania origin.

2526
01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 2: Can you be so pro Argentinian? Which is fine? I

2527
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 2: support it. Did not have ever had chimychory in your life?

2528
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 2: I don't understand that.

2529
01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 1: You know I had.

2530
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 2: I didn't so delicious, it's so good.

2531
01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 1: I did have blue cheese dressing on top of a

2532
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:41,400
Speaker 1: steak and at the Boxing Hall of Fame of ruining

2533
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:43,720
Speaker 1: New York Luke, at that uh, at that casino there,

2534
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 1: at the at the rooftop restaurant. It changed my life,

2535
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:46,480
Speaker 1: it really did.

2536
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:48,440
Speaker 2: I think we got to do and I'm dead serious.

2537
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:51,160
Speaker 2: We need to get you a steak or really, there's

2538
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 2: lots of things you can eat chimmy schorty with, but

2539
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 2: we got to go to an Argentine steakhouse and get

2540
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 2: you some chimmy chory. It's gonna blow your fucking mind.

2541
01:54:57,560 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 2: Good chimmychory is unreal.

2542
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 1: Let me shout out to close Argentine boxers historically the

2543
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 1: badasses like the Madonna's, the Matisas. But this guy, uh,

2544
01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 1: Fernando Martinez, Dude, he's good man. I mean, he's quick,

2545
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 1: he can box, but he's his combinations when he has

2546
01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:18,760
Speaker 1: you cornered. Dude. You know, Paula Cole once asked Luke

2547
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:20,960
Speaker 1: in ninety four, where have all the cowboys gone? Dude?

2548
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 1: They're from Argentina and they're boxers and they're absolute badasses.

2549
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:28,000
Speaker 1: Can I stigmatize Argentine boxers and say, look, they're all

2550
01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 1: they're all gun slingers. Man, they come to party. Shout

2551
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:33,880
Speaker 1: out to Fernando Martinez there and you see him read

2552
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 1: that list of about one hundred names you wanted to

2553
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:38,480
Speaker 1: think afterwards they almost they almost apollo hooked him out

2554
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 1: of the area.

2555
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:42,280
Speaker 2: I fast forwarded through that part if I could be honest.

2556
01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 1: All right, the Draymond Grings Super Sucker Punch of the

2557
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:49,480
Speaker 1: Week award goes to this man who trying to send

2558
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 1: Spider Man deep down.

2559
01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:55,520
Speaker 2: Luke, all right, I mean this is you know, this

2560
01:55:55,640 --> 01:56:02,760
Speaker 2: is for the people who are super into host bulla comedy. Yo.

2561
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 1: Spider Man got a receipt for that though, Oh look

2562
01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:06,440
Speaker 1: at that now, oh wow, wow.

2563
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I'm not gonna do this.

2564
01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna okay, Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Luke,

2565
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 1: Lot'll keep it going. We talked about Rico Verhoven. Verhoven

2566
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:17,680
Speaker 1: the Glory Heavyweight champion for about a decade. He got

2567
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:19,800
Speaker 1: in the ring afterwards. Let's listen to him go face

2568
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 1: to face with Ovary. I was right, I wasn't here.

2569
01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 2: I'm right here.

2570
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm right here. You gonna, hey, if you're gonna do

2571
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:36,360
Speaker 1: this to me, I'm so afraid, even though I was

2572
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:40,520
Speaker 1: last two rounds, you ain't gonna lands hey. If you

2573
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 1: know what it is, guys, you know what it is.

2574
01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:47,440
Speaker 1: It is very unique. You know he's in the street fight.

2575
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:48,760
Speaker 1: I would annihilate this man.

2576
01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:49,840
Speaker 2: Let me talking.

2577
01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 1: We're not talking about the street fight, right af you're

2578
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 1: in the kickboxing ring.

2579
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:54,400
Speaker 2: You're in the kickboxing ring.

2580
01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:57,320
Speaker 1: That's all you're doing. You're not we're not talking about

2581
01:56:57,400 --> 01:56:59,000
Speaker 1: him in the Glory chap. We're not talking about this.

2582
01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 2: You gonna do dank him. See, I gotta tell you,

2583
01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:06,760
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you it's hard. Verhuven's a beast and

2584
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:09,000
Speaker 2: I had a long talk with him once when when

2585
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:11,000
Speaker 2: I do work for glory. This was in like Virginia Beach.

2586
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:14,360
Speaker 2: Very nice guy, smart guy too, but it is hard

2587
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 2: to talk shit with a turtle neck on. I gotta

2588
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:18,360
Speaker 2: be honest with you. You got a turtle neck on,

2589
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 2: you know, it's very hard.

2590
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:22,960
Speaker 1: There's a little bond villain in that look. I thought

2591
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:23,880
Speaker 1: he pulled it off. Well.

2592
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 2: I don't say he looked bad, but it's hard to

2593
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 2: be taken seriously as like a dynamic fighting threat when

2594
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:31,160
Speaker 2: you've got you know, lands and on.

2595
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:33,600
Speaker 1: That's what people say about me wearing this drug rog

2596
01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 1: as a potential broadcaster looking at not not what you're

2597
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:39,600
Speaker 1: looking for. I would see. I'm ready for that fight

2598
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:41,200
Speaker 1: if they want to do it, though, please, I mean,

2599
01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:41,720
Speaker 1: here we go.

2600
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 2: Let's oh yeah, I'll be all in. I'd be all in.

2601
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,360
Speaker 1: Let's go to WW Extreme Rules pay per view. The

2602
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:50,920
Speaker 1: main event was Seth Rollins versus Uh seth Rollins versus

2603
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:53,520
Speaker 1: what's his name? Luke the UFCW.

2604
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:54,320
Speaker 2: What should I know?

2605
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:57,120
Speaker 1: Am I forgetting his name? In this moment? We'll get

2606
01:57:57,120 --> 01:58:01,960
Speaker 1: it all. But here's a special guest referee and it's

2607
01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:05,280
Speaker 1: Daniel Cormier Luke, And I mean, you know a lot

2608
01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 1: of people say, he looks like a foot locker referee.

2609
01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:10,000
Speaker 1: Was it you who texted me and said they're not

2610
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 1: doing him any favors with this outfit?

2611
01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 2: No, that wasn't me, although now I can agree they're

2612
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:17,960
Speaker 2: definitely the vertical stripes. That's tough. That's tough when you

2613
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:20,200
Speaker 2: got the vertical stripes. Yeah, going on, you know what

2614
01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:20,440
Speaker 2: I mean?

2615
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:22,680
Speaker 1: And obviously thanks to our producers, was Matt Redntle who

2616
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 1: was I was not getting It's Matt Reddle versus Seth

2617
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:27,560
Speaker 1: Rollins in the fight pit. DC's your referee and Luke

2618
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:29,440
Speaker 1: foot locker jokes aside? Do you know who? He kind

2619
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 1: of looks like like this, let's be fair, Luke, Okay,

2620
01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:34,879
Speaker 1: did I do that? I mean, looks like Carl Winslow

2621
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 1: a bit. I mean, come on, right, right, right, right,

2622
01:58:40,160 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 1: all right, all right, here you go. I mean, I mean, seriously, Luke,

2623
01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm not DC shouldn't come back. He's

2624
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:50,000
Speaker 1: got a great, great broadcasting career ahead of him. But

2625
01:58:50,360 --> 01:58:51,680
Speaker 1: he's not I mean, can we go to the next

2626
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:52,520
Speaker 1: he's not making it.

2627
01:58:52,720 --> 01:58:55,400
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. If DC can't get fat, now when

2628
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:56,240
Speaker 2: can he get fat?

2629
01:58:56,320 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 1: Okay? But you know he's not making two sixty five

2630
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 1: anytime soon? Where's the go a the next live lease? Yeah,

2631
01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:09,120
Speaker 1: not making it, but look he did look like yeah, yeah, Daniel.

2632
01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:11,280
Speaker 1: I know this was a childhood dream for him and

2633
01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:12,920
Speaker 1: I can respect that. And you know, it was cool

2634
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 1: to see him. And here's the big the big spot

2635
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 1: from the match. Matt Riddle, who of course had some

2636
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:19,520
Speaker 1: issues with Weed in the UFC but was a good fighter,

2637
01:59:19,600 --> 01:59:21,440
Speaker 1: was on a four fight win streak. He is now

2638
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:23,320
Speaker 1: at the top of the pops with the WWE, And

2639
01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:27,160
Speaker 1: here's part of his victory over Seth Rollins there. Yeah

2640
01:59:27,200 --> 01:59:31,280
Speaker 1: bro right, yeah, dude, is this This is a pretty

2641
01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:33,480
Speaker 1: remarkable turnaround for Riddle though, right from where he came.

2642
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:35,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know he's done from what I understand, I

2643
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:38,800
Speaker 2: don't really know in this particular case. Jesus christ Man,

2644
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:42,800
Speaker 2: you're gonna fuck up someone's ribs doing that ship is he?

2645
01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:45,000
Speaker 2: I guess if he's in a match like this, he's

2646
01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:47,160
Speaker 2: at the top. I mean, what would you like? What

2647
01:59:47,160 --> 01:59:49,120
Speaker 2: what level of success has he attained? Is he a

2648
01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:50,360
Speaker 2: lists professional wrestlers.

2649
01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm told that this. I'm told that them booking him

2650
01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:55,360
Speaker 1: to win this specific match in the main event against

2651
01:59:55,400 --> 01:59:57,800
Speaker 1: Seth Rollins is their attempt at finding out what they

2652
01:59:57,840 --> 01:59:59,560
Speaker 1: have in him right now, like sink or swim at

2653
01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 1: the top, because if you can do it, you're on

2654
02:00:01,320 --> 02:00:02,480
Speaker 1: the Roman Reigns level with us.

2655
02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:05,879
Speaker 2: Here is seth Rawlins a list, Yes, Roman.

2656
02:00:05,680 --> 02:00:08,680
Speaker 1: Reigns and seth Rawlins. Even from my distant position today,

2657
02:00:08,720 --> 02:00:10,440
Speaker 1: it's obvious to tell they are the one and two.

2658
02:00:10,640 --> 02:00:12,280
Speaker 1: And then bray Wyatt came back at the end of

2659
02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:14,600
Speaker 1: this match Luke. So that's things are looking.

2660
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:17,960
Speaker 2: I really, you know, not that the professional wrestling world

2661
02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 2: needs to care what I think. I missed the days

2662
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:22,600
Speaker 2: of professional wrestlers looking like cartoon characters with all the

2663
02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:23,560
Speaker 2: Royds they were taking.

2664
02:00:24,640 --> 02:00:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean they still they still use Luke.

2665
02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:28,440
Speaker 2: Okay, oh, I'm sure that they do. I have no doubt.

2666
02:00:28,480 --> 02:00:30,680
Speaker 2: But you know, the larger than life ones that we

2667
02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:32,400
Speaker 2: grew up with in the eighties, they don't quite look

2668
02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:33,320
Speaker 2: exactly like that.

2669
02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:35,080
Speaker 1: No, that's not a sustain That's why they all died

2670
02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:37,360
Speaker 1: at forty three. Okay, it's not sustainable for your life

2671
02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:39,480
Speaker 1: with all the drugs and life on the road. Hey,

2672
02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:42,840
Speaker 1: look rate that Tat is back. This is Juliana Killer

2673
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:43,600
Speaker 1: Miller edition.

2674
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:47,720
Speaker 2: So this is not bad This is actually not bad

2675
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:48,920
Speaker 2: at all. This is a pretty good This is a

2676
02:00:48,920 --> 02:00:50,000
Speaker 2: pretty well done tattoo.

2677
02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:51,360
Speaker 1: Here's the hard see.

2678
02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:55,000
Speaker 2: Some of the pictures are a little bit blurry. I

2679
02:00:55,000 --> 02:00:58,720
Speaker 2: think she's got she's got some kind of ancient Egyptian figure.

2680
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:03,920
Speaker 2: But this is by athlete standards, this is definitely good,

2681
02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:06,680
Speaker 2: and I would even say pretty good. By and large,

2682
02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:07,600
Speaker 2: this is a pretty good tat.

2683
02:01:07,880 --> 02:01:10,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, those look like those are pretty cool. They stand

2684
02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:12,160
Speaker 1: out that one right there. Look I would get something

2685
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:14,520
Speaker 1: not in a diamond shape, maybe in a circular shape.

2686
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't hate that, I'd get that.

2687
02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:20,880
Speaker 2: Look. I like the wolf or the dog better than

2688
02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:22,640
Speaker 2: I like the lake. The lake doesn't is not my

2689
02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:25,080
Speaker 2: favorite part. I have a This is my view. This

2690
02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:27,560
Speaker 2: is my personal view, and obviously no one really cares.

2691
02:01:27,560 --> 02:01:31,720
Speaker 2: But I don't think in general blues or greens look

2692
02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:34,960
Speaker 2: that good as tattoos. That there are exceptions to that,

2693
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:37,160
Speaker 2: but in general I feel like that is true.

2694
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:41,200
Speaker 1: All Right, More MMA fighters in the wild and their

2695
02:01:41,280 --> 02:01:49,080
Speaker 1: natural habitat. Here's UFC Women's flyweight champion Valentina Chefchenko hrting

2696
02:01:49,120 --> 02:01:53,680
Speaker 1: sheep somewhere probably kergysand luke. This looks like good plow

2697
02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:56,440
Speaker 1: experience to some people, Look, this is a wedding invitation.

2698
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:57,160
Speaker 1: How about you?

2699
02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:01,440
Speaker 2: Are you making some joke about the third world or something.

2700
02:02:01,840 --> 02:02:05,280
Speaker 1: No, that this is like, there's a real woman here, Luke.

2701
02:02:05,160 --> 02:02:08,960
Speaker 2: Right, what's the what's the wedding invitation joke?

2702
02:02:09,360 --> 02:02:11,080
Speaker 1: I think people want to marry her after seeing this.

2703
02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:15,760
Speaker 2: You know, well, dude, she has the horniest fans online,

2704
02:02:15,960 --> 02:02:18,160
Speaker 2: the people who comment on it. She can put up

2705
02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:19,840
Speaker 2: a post where she just hold like, you know, wearing

2706
02:02:19,880 --> 02:02:22,760
Speaker 2: normal clothes and the look at her mentions, and it's

2707
02:02:22,760 --> 02:02:26,800
Speaker 2: the horniest in cells on planet Earth. It's unbelievable.

2708
02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:30,840
Speaker 1: Speaking of natural habitat, Cory Anderson Bellatoor Fame was up

2709
02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:34,360
Speaker 1: in his tree stand hunting when he got the notification

2710
02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:36,920
Speaker 1: on his phone to sign the contract he has re

2711
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:38,480
Speaker 1: signed with Bellatore that that was.

2712
02:02:38,440 --> 02:02:40,800
Speaker 2: Interesting, Luke, you ever been in a tree stand?

2713
02:02:41,600 --> 02:02:44,360
Speaker 1: No, I'm really I'm not against many things in life.

2714
02:02:44,360 --> 02:02:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm really against hunting, Luke. I mean, it's not like

2715
02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm it's not like I want to pick it and say,

2716
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, if you do that, there's something wrong with you.

2717
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:53,960
Speaker 1: It's just so not for me that I like, I

2718
02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:54,640
Speaker 1: would never.

2719
02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:57,760
Speaker 2: Go I've done it. A few times. I did not

2720
02:02:58,000 --> 02:03:00,120
Speaker 2: enjoy tree stand hunting because you got to do it

2721
02:03:00,160 --> 02:03:02,920
Speaker 2: for really really long periods and I got eaten live

2722
02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:05,600
Speaker 2: by mosquitoes doing that. Yeah, and I didn't really care

2723
02:03:05,680 --> 02:03:07,240
Speaker 2: for it. But I will tell you, dude, hunting is

2724
02:03:07,280 --> 02:03:09,240
Speaker 2: a good thing. You actually, well, I should say this

2725
02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:10,960
Speaker 2: regulated hunting.

2726
02:03:10,840 --> 02:03:14,080
Speaker 1: Right, it's got a the's a it's actually.

2727
02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:15,920
Speaker 2: Better for the population of the animals that are affected.

2728
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:18,000
Speaker 2: It calls just enough of them to keep, for example,

2729
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:21,320
Speaker 2: like disease less of a problem for some of the populations.

2730
02:03:21,320 --> 02:03:25,320
Speaker 2: You you regulated Proper hunting is a very good thing.

2731
02:03:25,800 --> 02:03:28,520
Speaker 1: And you know there's hunters that are buy the books,

2732
02:03:28,640 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 1: use every part of the animal. I get all that. Look,

2733
02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:33,520
Speaker 1: you know, I love eating a burger or some finely

2734
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:35,360
Speaker 1: cooked chicken. I don't want to be there when it

2735
02:03:35,400 --> 02:03:36,320
Speaker 1: goes from life today.

2736
02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:38,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see, that makes you a complete hypocrite like

2737
02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:41,120
Speaker 2: these animals. You know, again, assuming it's done by the book,

2738
02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:43,680
Speaker 2: and there are obviously many, many, many, most hunters, I

2739
02:03:43,680 --> 02:03:46,120
Speaker 2: would say, in fact, do that. You know, that's that's

2740
02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:48,200
Speaker 2: a that's a proper thing going out and getting your

2741
02:03:48,240 --> 02:03:51,400
Speaker 2: food and eating a wild animal versus just oh, let's

2742
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:54,040
Speaker 2: let all these cows just be viciously slaughtered on. These

2743
02:03:54,080 --> 02:03:56,960
Speaker 2: pigs live in crates where they can't turn around. I'm

2744
02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:59,080
Speaker 2: not I can't. I can't. I can't abide by that ship.

2745
02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:00,920
Speaker 1: Did you just try called me out for being a

2746
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:02,440
Speaker 1: gatherer though, rather than a hunter?

2747
02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:09,120
Speaker 2: Uh more, just a taker. You're just the undertaker.

2748
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:12,640
Speaker 1: Let's go to Justin Gaetchee. He's trying out ski jumping.

2749
02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:20,000
Speaker 2: This is interesting, that's good for his athletic career. Hey, John,

2750
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:22,280
Speaker 2: I'm at a press conference. I got a question here here.

2751
02:04:22,360 --> 02:04:22,680
Speaker 2: Let's go.

2752
02:04:24,920 --> 02:04:26,120
Speaker 1: Oh boy, yeah, I would.

2753
02:04:26,200 --> 02:04:28,120
Speaker 2: I mean it's like it's like this dude is a

2754
02:04:28,160 --> 02:04:32,520
Speaker 2: phenomenal athlete. Here he is, hey, and he's gonna bust

2755
02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:34,400
Speaker 2: his ass right into the pool. There you go into

2756
02:04:34,400 --> 02:04:34,720
Speaker 2: the drill.

2757
02:04:34,840 --> 02:04:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, my ankles just broke watching that. Look that scares me.

2758
02:04:38,080 --> 02:04:40,320
Speaker 1: I can't don't. You can't put me on. I did

2759
02:04:40,360 --> 02:04:42,160
Speaker 1: cross country skiing in the winter with my wife a

2760
02:04:42,160 --> 02:04:43,480
Speaker 1: couple of years ago and it was all ice.

2761
02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:44,560
Speaker 2: That was hell.

2762
02:04:44,720 --> 02:04:47,240
Speaker 1: I went down. I mean I was just down, you know,

2763
02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:47,800
Speaker 1: I was it was.

2764
02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:50,600
Speaker 2: Like one PM. For granted, is like I learned skiing

2765
02:04:50,600 --> 02:04:53,120
Speaker 2: when I was like, you know, single digits or you know,

2766
02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:56,240
Speaker 2: early teens or whatever, and when you fall, obviously it sucks,

2767
02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:58,760
Speaker 2: but your body just can tolerate it much better. Bro.

2768
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:01,880
Speaker 2: You know people like how you know, when you're forty

2769
02:05:01,920 --> 02:05:03,800
Speaker 2: and you fall, you might as well just be eighty.

2770
02:05:04,320 --> 02:05:06,360
Speaker 2: All your shit's gonna break, you know what I mean?

2771
02:05:06,520 --> 02:05:10,160
Speaker 2: Hips back crack the whole nine yards.

2772
02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:14,480
Speaker 1: Look the transitioning here. The Bill's Mafia have holding tryouts

2773
02:05:14,480 --> 02:05:17,120
Speaker 1: for new members. And I don't I don't think this guy.

2774
02:05:17,120 --> 02:05:19,840
Speaker 2: Not a book reader in the parking lot. Oh here

2775
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 2: we go?

2776
02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:21,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god?

2777
02:05:21,440 --> 02:05:23,800
Speaker 2: You think any one of these guys has ever made

2778
02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:27,040
Speaker 2: the honor roll anywhere in their life? Look at these.

2779
02:05:26,880 --> 02:05:31,080
Speaker 1: Oh that is brutal to watch. Wow. All right, we

2780
02:05:31,120 --> 02:05:35,160
Speaker 1: talked about horror movies before Good. Did you see Caleb Plant,

2781
02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:37,520
Speaker 1: who will be back in the Komain event of Saturday's

2782
02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:40,160
Speaker 1: Deontay Wilder PBC on Fox return pay per view?

2783
02:05:40,360 --> 02:05:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, should be.

2784
02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:43,720
Speaker 1: By the way his boxing shoes he'll be Caleb will

2785
02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:46,040
Speaker 1: be fighting Anthony Durell. That should be an interesting fight.

2786
02:05:46,120 --> 02:05:49,160
Speaker 1: But the Freddy Krueger inspired boxing shoes that he'll wear

2787
02:05:49,240 --> 02:05:49,880
Speaker 1: looke your thoughts.

2788
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:54,640
Speaker 2: Umm, I'm kind of into it. I'm kind of into it.

2789
02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:56,760
Speaker 2: I don't hate it. Okay, I thought it was they

2790
02:05:56,840 --> 02:05:59,040
Speaker 2: they're not. They're not like the prettiest thing, but they

2791
02:05:59,080 --> 02:06:01,520
Speaker 2: got a little I don't like. I don't like the the.

2792
02:06:02,280 --> 02:06:04,640
Speaker 1: That's what with me over that. That's like that screams

2793
02:06:04,720 --> 02:06:06,920
Speaker 1: nightmare on Elm Street. I get it. I like it, Luke.

2794
02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:07,200
Speaker 1: You know.

2795
02:06:07,320 --> 02:06:09,960
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I like outrageous clothing like this

2796
02:06:10,080 --> 02:06:13,760
Speaker 2: for boxing were guys remember the for example, remember the

2797
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:17,400
Speaker 2: trunks and really the overall outfit that Javonte Davis wore

2798
02:06:17,400 --> 02:06:19,800
Speaker 2: on the Mayweather McGregor card. Would you look like a

2799
02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:22,640
Speaker 2: Smurfy had those weird ass like super puffy trunks and stuff.

2800
02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:26,120
Speaker 2: I feel like, if you're gonna do the crazy exorbitant thing,

2801
02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:29,320
Speaker 2: that's the venue taking it into the street with like

2802
02:06:29,360 --> 02:06:32,280
Speaker 2: the Air Force ones or whatever. Those were not my favorite,

2803
02:06:32,320 --> 02:06:36,000
Speaker 2: not my favorite. All right, all right, Luke, what a

2804
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:36,840
Speaker 2: Cannibal Corps shirt?

2805
02:06:37,400 --> 02:06:39,760
Speaker 1: How about the NHL fan. Here's our fan of the

2806
02:06:39,800 --> 02:06:44,080
Speaker 1: week throughout pro sports. He's he's ready for the post game?

2807
02:06:47,280 --> 02:06:48,360
Speaker 2: Is that Jeff Wagenheim?

2808
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, look, he's he's ready. He's ready right

2809
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:55,440
Speaker 1: now to get that thing.

2810
02:06:55,480 --> 02:06:59,800
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, dude, Dad's dad Stoners. That's my demo.

2811
02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:03,280
Speaker 1: See that's my yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right,

2812
02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:05,240
Speaker 1: all right, Uh your demos.

2813
02:07:04,880 --> 02:07:07,000
Speaker 2: Also, we don't talk. We don't talk enough about this.

2814
02:07:07,080 --> 02:07:09,800
Speaker 2: We talk about like how hardcore NFL team fans are

2815
02:07:09,840 --> 02:07:12,840
Speaker 2: just dirt bags. I gotta tell you, a hard core

2816
02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:17,560
Speaker 2: if you're above forty and you're a hardcore like Bruins

2817
02:07:17,720 --> 02:07:19,960
Speaker 2: or something like that, like a fly Can you imagine

2818
02:07:19,960 --> 02:07:21,720
Speaker 2: someone being like forty five years old and being a

2819
02:07:21,720 --> 02:07:25,400
Speaker 2: hardcore Philadelphia Flyers fan. There is no way you're not

2820
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:28,360
Speaker 2: anything other than a complete ship bag in life.

2821
02:07:28,680 --> 02:07:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess a lot of our fans, though Luke

2822
02:07:30,640 --> 02:07:32,400
Speaker 1: fit that category, and I'm okay with that. We got

2823
02:07:32,440 --> 02:07:32,760
Speaker 1: room for it.

2824
02:07:32,800 --> 02:07:35,040
Speaker 2: Probably we got room for them, okay. Uh.

2825
02:07:35,320 --> 02:07:37,920
Speaker 1: You also hang out in the hashtag girl dad circles.

2826
02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:40,800
Speaker 1: Rip the Lake, Kobe, Luke. Here's a playscape fail. You

2827
02:07:40,840 --> 02:07:42,920
Speaker 1: gotta be careful if you're gonna get too involved with

2828
02:07:43,360 --> 02:07:45,480
Speaker 1: Luke when you go to like the playgrounds and stuff.

2829
02:07:53,160 --> 02:07:54,240
Speaker 1: Oh the fat.

2830
02:07:54,080 --> 02:07:57,480
Speaker 2: Man just falling through? Do they have? They have these

2831
02:07:57,520 --> 02:08:01,800
Speaker 2: little indoor playgrounds all over the place in Colombia, all

2832
02:08:01,840 --> 02:08:03,880
Speaker 2: over the place, and we go to these ones all

2833
02:08:03,920 --> 02:08:06,040
Speaker 2: the time, and they're a little more regulated than this

2834
02:08:06,080 --> 02:08:11,840
Speaker 2: piece of shit one. But yeah, this is uh pace

2835
02:08:11,960 --> 02:08:12,600
Speaker 2: to not be fat.

2836
02:08:12,640 --> 02:08:15,480
Speaker 1: Bec Yeah, be fat the fact I ate it. But

2837
02:08:15,640 --> 02:08:17,840
Speaker 1: the next question, Luke is would you eat it? Let's

2838
02:08:17,880 --> 02:08:21,040
Speaker 1: go to this category. Uh. I think they call this well,

2839
02:08:21,080 --> 02:08:23,200
Speaker 1: they call this heaven, but I think this is the

2840
02:08:23,200 --> 02:08:26,480
Speaker 1: intersection between Mexican and American culture. They're called hot dog

2841
02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:27,320
Speaker 1: and bean tacos.

2842
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:29,960
Speaker 2: In First of all, whoever made this needs to go

2843
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:34,160
Speaker 2: to jail right away. Send them to jail for life.

2844
02:08:34,880 --> 02:08:39,040
Speaker 2: What see a complete fucking disgusting waste of a perfectly

2845
02:08:39,040 --> 02:08:41,600
Speaker 2: good taco. And there's a slice of cheese in there too. Yo.

2846
02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:43,320
Speaker 2: Fuck the guy who made this. Yo.

2847
02:08:43,760 --> 02:08:46,360
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say. Like, if you're a real one

2848
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:48,600
Speaker 1: and you're eating a barbecue hob, you know, the hot dog,

2849
02:08:48,600 --> 02:08:50,600
Speaker 1: get a barbecue in the backyard at a party, you

2850
02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:52,480
Speaker 1: put a ton of ketchup on that. But if you

2851
02:08:52,520 --> 02:08:54,240
Speaker 1: go to the next level and put big beans on

2852
02:08:54,280 --> 02:08:56,400
Speaker 1: top of that, then you you figured you've figured out

2853
02:08:56,400 --> 02:08:57,920
Speaker 1: how to cheat, like you know in life. That's that's

2854
02:08:57,960 --> 02:09:00,400
Speaker 1: the code. You figured it out. You have achieved greatness.

2855
02:09:01,280 --> 02:09:05,320
Speaker 1: Transitioning to the hardshell taco I mean it's it's kind

2856
02:09:05,360 --> 02:09:07,400
Speaker 1: of it's it's it's in the same family. Look, I'm

2857
02:09:07,400 --> 02:09:09,200
Speaker 1: not against it, all right, dude.

2858
02:09:09,200 --> 02:09:11,800
Speaker 2: This is prison food. This is prison food. This is

2859
02:09:11,800 --> 02:09:14,160
Speaker 2: what you eat when if you're a Ted Kaczinski's eating

2860
02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:15,080
Speaker 2: this at the supermax.

2861
02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:20,000
Speaker 1: This is created my own prison. Yeah yeah, Luke, Right,

2862
02:09:20,120 --> 02:09:23,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm and I sill.

2863
02:09:23,320 --> 02:09:26,440
Speaker 2: I'm into FREEJLS South Chica, but not like this.

2864
02:09:26,840 --> 02:09:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. This segment brought to you by Creed. Uh, let's

2865
02:09:29,640 --> 02:09:31,400
Speaker 1: go to this next one, Luke, I think these pops

2866
02:09:31,440 --> 02:09:35,280
Speaker 1: are located. These are on the D somewhere near the D.

2867
02:09:35,880 --> 02:09:36,800
Speaker 1: Would you eat these?

2868
02:09:36,920 --> 02:09:41,880
Speaker 2: Luke? Haven't we done this bit before?

2869
02:09:42,160 --> 02:09:44,960
Speaker 1: No, we haven't. Actually it's we've had we have not.

2870
02:09:45,240 --> 02:09:46,680
Speaker 1: Uh that's a dirty dog.

2871
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:49,040
Speaker 2: Could you put more sugar on this? Motherfucker? I mean,

2872
02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:50,640
Speaker 2: what are you trying to do? Give me diabetes by

2873
02:09:50,680 --> 02:09:51,440
Speaker 2: age forty four?

2874
02:09:51,680 --> 02:09:52,600
Speaker 1: Would you try it? Yes?

2875
02:09:52,720 --> 02:09:54,800
Speaker 2: Or no? It? Yes? Of course I would. What do

2876
02:09:54,840 --> 02:09:56,600
Speaker 2: you think I am got some refined palate. I'm a

2877
02:09:56,600 --> 02:09:57,560
Speaker 2: fucking dirt bag too.

2878
02:09:57,840 --> 02:10:01,360
Speaker 1: Well? How about these? These are called Yeager Bomb hot dogs.

2879
02:10:01,400 --> 02:10:02,360
Speaker 1: Would you try these?

2880
02:10:02,680 --> 02:10:06,680
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus Christ, First of all, you're boiling your hot

2881
02:10:06,680 --> 02:10:10,960
Speaker 2: dog's asshole. You can stop right there. Catchup red bull

2882
02:10:11,680 --> 02:10:15,320
Speaker 2: with a boiled hot dog. Poke holes in it, Pour

2883
02:10:15,560 --> 02:10:21,120
Speaker 2: Jaeger into it, seal it, pans, sea it with more

2884
02:10:21,160 --> 02:10:25,040
Speaker 2: of the Jeger sauce. Put it in the bond, mayo

2885
02:10:25,280 --> 02:10:27,440
Speaker 2: and ketchup and mustard on it.

2886
02:10:28,160 --> 02:10:31,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't hate this, Luke. I'm sorry. I mean,

2887
02:10:31,720 --> 02:10:34,040
Speaker 1: you've seen my bare toes. I don't hate this. Okay,

2888
02:10:34,520 --> 02:10:37,000
Speaker 1: all right. At the end of total recall, when the

2889
02:10:37,000 --> 02:10:39,560
Speaker 1: guy exposed himself as a lizard, Luke, I'm you know

2890
02:10:39,600 --> 02:10:41,080
Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm the lizard king.

2891
02:10:41,160 --> 02:10:44,280
Speaker 2: Okay, dude, why do people want to cook food in

2892
02:10:44,480 --> 02:10:48,120
Speaker 2: order to make it worse? I don't understand that isn't

2893
02:10:48,160 --> 02:10:50,080
Speaker 2: the whole idea of cooking to make it better.

2894
02:10:50,520 --> 02:10:52,800
Speaker 1: All you had to say was no, okay, it was weird, But.

2895
02:10:52,840 --> 02:10:55,200
Speaker 2: It's like Yobc's like, yo, would you try this? This

2896
02:10:55,240 --> 02:10:57,440
Speaker 2: guy has a hot dog. He's gonna put road salted

2897
02:10:57,480 --> 02:11:00,320
Speaker 2: fucking cigarette butts in it. Would you eat it? Like? No, No,

2898
02:11:00,320 --> 02:11:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm not eating that.

2899
02:11:01,040 --> 02:11:03,080
Speaker 1: All right, I got one more. Maybe you'll try this.

2900
02:11:03,200 --> 02:11:19,280
Speaker 1: I think they call these Luke air biscuits. All right.

2901
02:11:20,520 --> 02:11:22,400
Speaker 2: The answer is an enthusiastic yes.

2902
02:11:22,800 --> 02:11:26,320
Speaker 1: Oh wow wow, stephen A wanted nothing to do with these, Luke.

2903
02:11:26,360 --> 02:11:31,000
Speaker 1: We've along established that subways are the weirdest places on earth, right.

2904
02:11:32,400 --> 02:11:34,840
Speaker 2: Like subway stations or subway sandwich.

2905
02:11:34,720 --> 02:11:38,320
Speaker 1: Subway stage, while subway sandwiches are probably cooked in that

2906
02:11:38,400 --> 02:11:41,320
Speaker 1: same grease. But uh yeah, subways are pretty weird.

2907
02:11:41,360 --> 02:11:41,560
Speaker 2: Gup.

2908
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:43,720
Speaker 1: But if you ever seen this kind of subway mouth

2909
02:11:43,880 --> 02:11:44,720
Speaker 1: art before.

2910
02:11:46,800 --> 02:11:49,360
Speaker 2: This can't be New York City. No, there's no way

2911
02:11:49,800 --> 02:11:52,080
Speaker 2: that you couldn't. You couldn't. You couldn't. You couldn't get

2912
02:11:52,120 --> 02:11:52,520
Speaker 2: away with it.

2913
02:11:52,520 --> 02:11:54,480
Speaker 1: There'd be dude, if you if you walk down the

2914
02:11:54,480 --> 02:11:56,280
Speaker 1: plaif down the stairs of the platform and you were

2915
02:11:56,320 --> 02:11:58,840
Speaker 1: high as balls, this might kill you. This might like

2916
02:11:58,960 --> 02:11:59,960
Speaker 1: this might this.

2917
02:12:00,640 --> 02:12:03,400
Speaker 2: With the amount of heroin coursing through the veins of

2918
02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:06,680
Speaker 2: people who ride the subway in New York City, you

2919
02:12:06,720 --> 02:12:08,520
Speaker 2: would absolutely have a heart attack here.

2920
02:12:08,640 --> 02:12:12,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, let's go to them to the typical subway

2921
02:12:12,160 --> 02:12:16,640
Speaker 1: videos we get on this segment. Okay, you got to

2922
02:12:16,720 --> 02:12:17,760
Speaker 1: keep them off the pole, Luke.

2923
02:12:17,800 --> 02:12:20,280
Speaker 2: Okay, and parents, I always tell people, I know there's

2924
02:12:20,320 --> 02:12:22,080
Speaker 2: a mass debate about COVID and I'm not here to

2925
02:12:22,080 --> 02:12:24,920
Speaker 2: read it. I'm just telling you, if you get on

2926
02:12:24,960 --> 02:12:27,080
Speaker 2: the New York City Subway and you don't wear a

2927
02:12:27,120 --> 02:12:31,440
Speaker 2: hazmat suit, you're a moron. You're a fucking moron. New

2928
02:12:31,520 --> 02:12:36,600
Speaker 2: York City Subway is the most disgusting place beckoned with

2929
02:12:36,920 --> 02:12:40,200
Speaker 2: disease I've ever seen in my fucking life.

2930
02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:44,280
Speaker 1: Look the following calisthenics are brought to by appetitis.

2931
02:12:48,240 --> 02:12:52,920
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, why does this? Dude? It's like, also,

2932
02:12:55,160 --> 02:12:59,680
Speaker 2: is there a more is there a more effective way

2933
02:12:59,720 --> 02:13:01,680
Speaker 2: to screw at your ass than that? There's gotta be

2934
02:13:03,520 --> 02:13:08,160
Speaker 2: I fucking and this guy's on Broadway. I fucking hate

2935
02:13:08,200 --> 02:13:11,080
Speaker 2: the New York City Subway. What a disgusting piece of

2936
02:13:11,120 --> 02:13:16,920
Speaker 2: ship place. Woo, get your hands all dude. The first

2937
02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:19,200
Speaker 2: thing you should do is not touch anything, And the

2938
02:13:19,240 --> 02:13:20,560
Speaker 2: first thing you should do when you get home is

2939
02:13:20,600 --> 02:13:23,160
Speaker 2: just burn your shoes. And this asshole is up here

2940
02:13:23,240 --> 02:13:25,760
Speaker 2: just putting his hands glass. You know how much homeless

2941
02:13:25,920 --> 02:13:28,960
Speaker 2: urine this guy has just taked on his fingernails at

2942
02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:30,200
Speaker 2: this point, Yo, fuck this guy.

2943
02:13:30,600 --> 02:13:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Indeed, indeed, all right, we got a couple more

2944
02:13:33,080 --> 02:13:36,000
Speaker 1: to close with. We got some more regional mma mayhem,

2945
02:13:36,040 --> 02:13:39,440
Speaker 1: because anything can happen. You know, go please support your

2946
02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:41,920
Speaker 1: local regional MMA show because this might happen too.

2947
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Speaker 2: Oh, I've been to a show where this happened. I've

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02:13:44,880 --> 02:13:47,000
Speaker 2: been to it. This happened to a strike Fource show

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Speaker 2: years ago. By the way, this is a true story.

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Speaker 2: I think Porey Santiago fought on that card where the

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02:13:54,080 --> 02:13:56,760
Speaker 2: door wasn't see exactly the door wasn't sealed and they

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02:13:56,760 --> 02:13:59,400
Speaker 2: popped right open. Dude, this is for folks who think

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Speaker 2: UFC is real MMA. I know they're like, they're catchphrases

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02:14:02,080 --> 02:14:04,360
Speaker 2: and reels. It gets I'm trying to explain to you

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Speaker 2: that's the most sanitized version of MMA. This, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: is real MMA. This is what it normally looks.

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Speaker 1: Like, and you get highlight reel finishes like this amateur fight.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one. Have you seen a

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02:14:21,240 --> 02:14:22,360
Speaker 1: fight end like this before?

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Speaker 2: Oh the referee caught no, yeah I did see this.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, bah rolling the these amateurs, these amateurs will

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02:14:33,160 --> 02:14:35,800
Speaker 2: just throw anything, bro, They're just they're just spamming technics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, the old referee just fucking took an.

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Speaker 1: L Look what did you used to say about like

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Speaker 1: large white women who wear crocs.

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Speaker 2: Well, just anyone who wears crocs except Violetta deserves to

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02:14:47,080 --> 02:14:49,680
Speaker 2: be fucking beaten with a car antenna.

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Speaker 1: Well, Violetta, we don't want to see you.

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Speaker 2: Face first into the fucking grass. Yeah, all right, Well finally,

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Speaker 2: Oh dude, her ankle turns. Yeah. I would imagine your

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02:14:59,760 --> 02:15:02,240
Speaker 2: ankle stability when you're this when you're this size, would

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02:15:02,240 --> 02:15:03,800
Speaker 2: be a challenge for you.

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Speaker 1: Luke, we try to hit every every corner of the

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Speaker 1: globe here to like hold.

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Speaker 2: On, hold on, go back, go back, Show one more time,

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02:15:08,880 --> 02:15:12,440
Speaker 2: Show one more time. When Big Bertha starts to tumble

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Speaker 2: watch the dog, He's like, oh.

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02:15:13,840 --> 02:15:16,200
Speaker 1: Come on, poor dog. That I hope they caught the dog.

2979
02:15:16,280 --> 02:15:18,240
Speaker 2: The dog was like, I'm not, I'm not. The sun

2980
02:15:18,320 --> 02:15:20,320
Speaker 2: is not going down on me today, good sir.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Democrat. Yeah, okay, here you go. Uh, Luke,

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Speaker 1: We we hit all corners of the globe to let

2983
02:15:26,880 --> 02:15:28,480
Speaker 1: you know what's going on in combat sports. Here's an

2984
02:15:28,560 --> 02:15:30,920
Speaker 1: update from Poland on what you want to Young j

2985
02:15:31,080 --> 02:15:32,200
Speaker 1: Check is up to in retirement.

2986
02:15:45,920 --> 02:15:48,520
Speaker 2: Seems like it's very cold in whatever room she's.

2987
02:15:49,280 --> 02:15:51,120
Speaker 1: It seems like things are pointing up. Let me look

2988
02:15:51,120 --> 02:15:53,640
Speaker 1: it up. Luke, So it's uh, it's not too bad,

2989
02:15:53,680 --> 02:15:54,040
Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 2: That's very chilly, very chick.

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02:15:56,360 --> 02:15:57,400
Speaker 1: That's the ship of the week.

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02:15:57,440 --> 02:15:57,600
Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: I hope you saw it, all.

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02:15:58,760 --> 02:16:01,120
Speaker 2: Right, there you go, good job be see. That was

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02:16:01,160 --> 02:16:02,760
Speaker 2: well done. That was well done.

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Speaker 1: Well we gave that. We gave the people a gift today, right.

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02:16:05,520 --> 02:16:08,880
Speaker 2: I gotta say we got given chicken shit except for

2998
02:16:08,880 --> 02:16:11,200
Speaker 2: obviously the Fundora fight was pretty great. But other than

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Speaker 2: and the we had two fights we could really sink

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Speaker 2: our teeth into. But other than that, we had to

3001
02:16:15,160 --> 02:16:17,880
Speaker 2: kind of make some chicken salad out of chicken shit.

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02:16:17,920 --> 02:16:19,640
Speaker 2: I feel like we did it pretty well, you know, Friday.

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Speaker 1: That's why we win those awards, Luke, Okay for the

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Speaker 1: moments like this, thank.

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Speaker 2: You all right. Reminding folks, showtime dot com is the

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02:16:25,560 --> 02:16:27,120
Speaker 2: label that pays. You can go to showtime dot com

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Speaker 2: get a thirty day free trophy like it. You can

3008
02:16:28,680 --> 02:16:33,120
Speaker 2: keep it. If not, you can bounce tomorrow. But what

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02:16:33,160 --> 02:16:35,240
Speaker 2: our o producer says, Mikey says, I don't think Luke

3010
02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:37,160
Speaker 2: mentioned once that we had to have an out and

3011
02:16:37,200 --> 02:16:38,720
Speaker 2: that we need to hurry up. That's right, I didn't.

3012
02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:43,280
Speaker 2: I didn't a change man, even though I hate going

3013
02:16:43,280 --> 02:16:45,560
Speaker 2: over the two hour mark. Also want to remind folks

3014
02:16:45,640 --> 02:16:48,840
Speaker 2: BC tell them again one more time, what's out tomorrow

3015
02:16:48,959 --> 02:16:50,920
Speaker 2: on the YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat.

3016
02:16:51,160 --> 02:16:52,920
Speaker 1: I think it's eleven am. We'll get back to you

3017
02:16:52,959 --> 02:16:56,360
Speaker 1: on that, but tomorrow get ready Morning Combat Documentary number

3018
02:16:56,440 --> 02:17:00,800
Speaker 1: seven home more Bound Man forty minutes, Love and Joy

3019
02:17:00,840 --> 02:17:02,720
Speaker 1: our gift to you. Thank you for all the support

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Speaker 1: you do for us. Yeah, it's self indulgent and ridiculous theater,

3021
02:17:06,160 --> 02:17:08,000
Speaker 1: but you know who else can do it? I mean,

3022
02:17:08,040 --> 02:17:11,320
Speaker 1: does your other favorite show do this? I don't think

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Speaker 1: so not.

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Speaker 2: Probably not.

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Speaker 1: Probably, Maybe that's why they're going further in their career. No, no,

3026
02:17:15,360 --> 02:17:17,360
Speaker 1: we're on top, baby, okay because the bullshit like this.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to Jake von Amsterdam and Matt Snyder for

3028
02:17:20,560 --> 02:17:22,720
Speaker 1: for parenting this project. Luke, it is a it is

3029
02:17:22,720 --> 02:17:25,640
Speaker 1: a love affair. You'll see it tomorrow. And why don't

3030
02:17:25,640 --> 02:17:27,879
Speaker 1: you buy our merchant the Meantime there at Morningcombat dot

3031
02:17:28,000 --> 02:17:31,600
Speaker 1: store even if you want to buy that gross shirt

3032
02:17:31,600 --> 02:17:32,800
Speaker 1: if you have to, like it's fine.

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02:17:32,840 --> 02:17:35,640
Speaker 2: Yes. Also want to remind folks Wednesday's fan subs Friday's

3034
02:17:35,680 --> 02:17:38,720
Speaker 2: Dead Wrong. Morningcombat at gmail dot com is the place

3035
02:17:38,760 --> 02:17:41,840
Speaker 2: to send those. The producers will in fact see it.

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Speaker 2: Any final thoughts before we close the show.

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02:17:43,800 --> 02:17:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, fix your gut with AG one and fix your

3038
02:17:46,080 --> 02:17:48,039
Speaker 1: credit with money line. That's all I got for you. Okay,

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02:17:48,120 --> 02:17:48,520
Speaker 1: there it is.

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02:17:48,560 --> 02:17:50,000
Speaker 2: That's it. That's all I got as well. All right,

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02:17:50,040 --> 02:17:53,960
Speaker 2: So for showtime, Malka and CBS Sports, that's Brian Campbell

3042
02:17:53,959 --> 02:17:55,959
Speaker 2: to Kingyon, Connecticut. I'm Luke Thomas. We'll see you guys

3043
02:17:56,000 --> 02:17:59,480
Speaker 2: on Wednesday. The documentary is out tomorrow, and until then,

3044
02:18:00,040 --> 02:18:01,520
Speaker 2: all of your gains be loyal