Speaker 1: And they're up to the whole of scrimmage at first
Speaker 1: and goal hand off, Jacobs blasting off the left side,
Speaker 1: fighting his way to the end. Top touchdown.
Speaker 2: Fourteenth touchdown of the season for Josh.
Speaker 1: And Jacob's a personal best. It is thirteen nothing Green Bays.
Speaker 1: They were just getting going. Yes, the Green Bay Packers
Speaker 1: authored the very first shutout of the twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: NFL season thanks to Josh Jacobs thirty four to nothing
Speaker 1: over the Saints on Monday Night Football. As we head
Speaker 1: into the holidays. That was Wayne Larvie of w R
Speaker 1: and W. I'm Greg Rosenthal in the garage. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at my friend Nick Chuck. Thank you for being with
Speaker 1: me on this thrilling game. Look, if it was gonna
Speaker 1: be a blowout, at least they did it quickly. Nothing
Speaker 1: got too complicated. We got to see some excellence out
Speaker 1: of the Packers.
Speaker 3: Yeah we did.
Speaker 4: We got to see the Packers in the many ways
Speaker 4: they can beat you. We talk about the Bills in
Speaker 4: that fashion a lot.
Speaker 3: Oh they can.
Speaker 4: They can win in so many different ways offensively. The
Speaker 4: Packers kind of proved that tonight, starting with Josh Jacobs
Speaker 4: and his you know the ground and pound approach where
Speaker 4: he's one of the toughest guys to bring down on
Speaker 4: first contact. He basically doesn't go down on first contact.
Speaker 4: And they rolled. They absolutely rolled with the complete team performance.
Speaker 4: Offense was rolling, defense was rolling. Packers fans are having
Speaker 4: a blast. They're tube outside of lambeau Field. It's the
Speaker 4: holiday season. What more could you want?
Speaker 1: Well, I guess a close game, but if it was
Speaker 1: gonna be a blowout, it was quick, it was decisive,
Speaker 1: and Joe Buck and Chroy Aikman were having a good time.
Speaker 1: Like Joe Buok just decided to entertain himself. They really
Speaker 1: are the best right now. And they're not griping that
Speaker 1: it's like a bad game or whatever. They're they're enjoying
Speaker 1: it and look, I like seeing greatness. Some blowouts are
Speaker 1: more entertaining than others. This was twenty one nothing before
Speaker 1: you know, the Saints had their fourth drive of the game,
Speaker 1: three straight touchdowns by the Packers, and then he just
Speaker 1: cruise from there. But the way they did it to
Speaker 1: me and the way they've done it the last two
Speaker 1: weeks is pretty telling. So Josh Jacobs sits for most
Speaker 1: of the second half because they're ahead by so much,
Speaker 1: which is great because they have a big game coming
Speaker 1: up on Sunday against the Vikings. But the first drive
Speaker 1: of the game shook. He has six touches for forty
Speaker 1: yards touchdown. The next drive of the game, after a
Speaker 1: short Saints drive where they got a couple first downs
Speaker 1: but end up punting, he has seven touches for forty
Speaker 1: five yards. That drive is a seventeen play ninety one
Speaker 1: yard drive. Before those two drives were up, and at
Speaker 1: that point, yeah, Jacobs already has eighty five yards on
Speaker 1: thirteen touches. He barely touched it the rest of the
Speaker 1: night after that. Before those two drives were over, seven
Speaker 1: different packers had run the ball, and you just felt
Speaker 1: like Matt Lafleur was just showing all the cool things
Speaker 1: he can do with all the cool players that he has.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's exactly what I'm speaking about there, is
Speaker 4: that I know that he's kind of a mad scientist
Speaker 4: offense and that he can scheme up so many different ways.
Speaker 4: But so many different guys were able to get involved
Speaker 4: in this offense. It didn't have to be about Jordan Love.
Speaker 4: It could be about the entire offensive you and it
Speaker 4: could be Dontavian Wicks catching a touchdown pass with one
Speaker 4: of the greatest flop jobs I've ever seen from a
Speaker 4: defensive back in the NFL in the modern era.
Speaker 1: Is that Yeah, that was commodi of thet there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just searching for a flag, desperate for a flag.
Speaker 4: You had Christian Watson taking you know, end arounds essentially
Speaker 4: just like jet sweeps, that sort of thing around the
Speaker 4: right side and picking up positive yards. You could go
Speaker 4: down this entire list. Chris Brooks gets a touchdown carry,
Speaker 4: Emmanuel Wilson gets eleven for fifty two by the time
Speaker 4: the game's over. Tucker Craft. We love Tucker Craft. He's
Speaker 4: had a great year. You had read Dobbs Wicks. Everybody's involved.
Speaker 4: Then they can just hit it from so many different
Speaker 4: angles because their coach is so creative with this play calling.
Speaker 4: It got to the point where in the fourth quarter
Speaker 4: of this game, and I know I'm getting ahead of myself,
Speaker 4: Milake Willis completed one pass. It was a thirty four
Speaker 4: yard dined to Jayden Reid down the sideline, and I
Speaker 4: just it just occurred to me, God, he's in the
Speaker 4: perfect place. He is in the perfect place to develop
Speaker 4: him as a quarterback, no pressure, a coach who knows
Speaker 4: exactly how to take advantage of his talents, and this
Speaker 4: entire offense is benefiting from the fact that Matt Lafleur
Speaker 4: is their coach.
Speaker 1: So I was thinking today about the comeback Player of
Speaker 1: the Year and now you're not allowed to just vote
Speaker 1: for guys for getting better. It made me think, like
Speaker 1: we need to have a most improved player, Like that's
Speaker 1: a more meaningful award. To me, most improved is all
Speaker 1: about development and what you want to do as a pro.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking Sam Darnold, that would be a
Speaker 1: nice spot for him to win that award that Gino
Speaker 1: Smith did. Gino win it last year. And I was
Speaker 1: thinking Malik Willis. If we had the ladder for most
Speaker 1: Improved Player of the Year, I'd try to sneak Malik
Speaker 1: Willison there at five. There's no rule that says you
Speaker 1: have to play a lot because we saw what he
Speaker 1: was before and we've seen what he is this year.
Speaker 1: And Lafleur gets a lot of credit, but Malik Willis
Speaker 1: gets even more credit because some of those passes he
Speaker 1: made in the runs, obviously he made in that early stretch.
Speaker 1: That's helped set them up for this run that they
Speaker 1: we've had now where they're running the ball so well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just made me consider their season in total,
Speaker 4: which is like Week one, Jordan Love gets hurt and
Speaker 4: it's doomsday for the Packers. We're on this podcast talking about,
Speaker 4: oh man, they lost Week one, what are they gonna
Speaker 4: do now they don't have their quarterback. They win the
Speaker 4: next two games with League Willis because Lafloor knows how
Speaker 4: to put him in the right spots and take advantage
Speaker 4: of his talents. I totally agree, by the way we should.
Speaker 4: It's our show. We could do whatever we want. Let's
Speaker 4: have a Most Improved Player ladder?
Speaker 1: Why not? Okay, maybe we will. And I know not
Speaker 1: that many important people are listening, but we do have
Speaker 1: an AP writer, Josh Debou, who listens to this show,
Speaker 1: So like, maybe we can get him to make the
Speaker 1: most Improved Player a thing. I mean NFL honors, they
Speaker 1: could use more words. We did Assistant Coach of the Year,
Speaker 1: no hate like that, But if we're doing Assistant Coach
Speaker 1: of the Year, I think we can have room for
Speaker 1: most Improved. Yeah, Lafleur, there was one funny play early
Speaker 1: where he actually had kool aid mckinnistry so confused on
Speaker 1: like a playfake that he was like spinning like a
Speaker 1: top looking for the right receiver. I think that was
Speaker 1: on the fourth down where Love took the check down
Speaker 1: instead of going deep that Troy Aikman wanted to and
Speaker 1: Love didn't have to do that much. I was glad
Speaker 1: he had that long throw to Jayden Reid in the
Speaker 1: second half because it felt like in the second half,
Speaker 1: Lafleur came out a halftime and it was like, we've
Speaker 1: all year we've been wanting a complete game. I don't
Speaker 1: think we've had a complete game. Special team's offense and defense,
Speaker 1: and certainly at halftime, you're like, this is the complete game.
Speaker 1: It's twenty four to nothing in the second half, they're
Speaker 1: not really moving the ball much for a while, and
Speaker 1: you're thinking, oh, Laflaur's not gonna feel like he gets it.
Speaker 1: But they tack on ten points at the end with
Speaker 1: a nice deep pass from Love and Willis, and he
Speaker 1: definitely got his complete game. You can't get any more
Speaker 1: complete than gaining four hundred plus yards holding them under
Speaker 1: two hundred the shutout. The passing was more than efficient enough.
Speaker 1: The offensive line has been awesome all year and is
Speaker 1: really underrated, and they should feel really good going into
Speaker 1: this Vikings game.
Speaker 4: And Brandon McManus it's two field goals of forty five
Speaker 4: plus yards. Look, this is a Packers team that has
Speaker 4: dealt with inconsistency at kickers since the departure and really
Speaker 4: the end of Mason Crosby. They had Andrews Carlson last
Speaker 4: year and he was not good. And now they have
Speaker 4: consistency in the form of Brandon McManus. So this may be,
Speaker 4: you know, overreaction to one blowout win, but the way
Speaker 4: the Packers have played over the last five weeks, say,
Speaker 4: for that narrow loss to the Lions, their defense has
Speaker 4: been phenomenal. I mean absolutely fantasticated. A pressure rate over
Speaker 4: fifty percent tonight, which is crazy, totally shut down the
Speaker 4: Saints offense, especially in that first half. They finished under
Speaker 4: one hundred yards in the first half. And so their
Speaker 4: defense has been playing phenomenally. We know what their offense
Speaker 4: can do. Now they have a reliable kicker as well.
Speaker 4: Calling crazy Greg, but I don't think it's too far
Speaker 4: fetch to throw them among the elite contenders in the
Speaker 4: NFC right now. No, the problem is that it's not
Speaker 4: a normal year eleven and four. Should you win you
Speaker 4: a division and get you a home game at the
Speaker 4: very least some years it might have you in the
Speaker 4: mix for the one or the two seed. Instead, they
Speaker 4: have almost no chance to even be second place in
Speaker 4: their division. I shouldn't say that it's not that far Fett.
Speaker 4: All they gotta do is win their last two games.
Speaker 4: They got to beat the Vikings, and then they need
Speaker 4: the Vikings to lose against the Lions.
Speaker 1: That's not that crazy of a scenario. And then actually
Speaker 1: they would get up to five, they would pass the Vikings.
Speaker 1: ESPN put out that scenario. Now they could fall down
Speaker 1: to seven as well if they lost down the stretch
Speaker 1: in Washington passed them. And I actually think it could
Speaker 1: be a meaningful difference between six, five, six and seven.
Speaker 1: You know, you get the five seed and you're playing
Speaker 1: the winner of the NFC South. That's great. If you're
Speaker 1: the sixth seed right now, you'd be playing the Rams.
Speaker 1: That is probably who it will wind up being. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's manageable. If you're the seventh seed, you probably have
Speaker 1: the Eagles. So those are three different tiers. I think
Speaker 1: it does matter. I think the Packers will be tempted
Speaker 1: to rest everyone in Week eighteen against the Bear and
Speaker 1: maybe care less about seeding. But that that's a conversation,
Speaker 1: uh for a week from now. I'm glad you mentioned
Speaker 1: the pressure numbers. Yeah, Van Ness had a good game.
Speaker 1: I thought Rashan Gary had a good game. He's been
Speaker 1: playing better and yeah, the running game is what really
Speaker 1: stuck with me. Guess their success rate tonight.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're like a success it was
Speaker 4: it was always over fifty percent of the last time
Speaker 4: I checked it was in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: It was sixty four percent, which is.
Speaker 3: Wow, it got even higher and like thirty five.
Speaker 1: Anything over fifty is incredible on the ground for them
Speaker 1: to do that, Granted, everyone listening to this is like,
Speaker 1: are you gonna mention that they're playing the Saints. It's like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: other teams haven't done this to the Saint. It's what
Speaker 1: you do against teams that are dead, and the Saints
Speaker 1: they're pretty dead. They couldn't they couldn't tackle anyone. I
Speaker 1: don't think we need to dive too deep into their
Speaker 1: roster that there's going to be a lot of changes,
Speaker 1: But give me, give me just your thoughts and Spencer
Speaker 1: Rattler back in the starting lineup after a couple stretch
Speaker 1: earlier in the season.
Speaker 4: You know, I think it was pretty evident in the
Speaker 4: first half and by the third quarter that look, dude,
Speaker 4: he's playing with a deck that's just not full. You know,
Speaker 4: Alvium Kamara's not out there. The receiving core is made
Speaker 4: up of a number of guys who you may have
Speaker 4: never even heard of at this point. Juwan Johnson might
Speaker 4: be their best receiving threat at tight end right now,
Speaker 4: and they're just they don't have a lot of guys.
Speaker 4: They don't have a lot of weapons, and it's a
Speaker 4: rookie quarterback against the defenses playing with its tear on fire.
Speaker 4: So it's going to be a challenge, especially when you
Speaker 4: face a pressure rate like he did throughout this game.
Speaker 4: I didn't think he actively hurt them. He had two turnovers,
Speaker 4: he fumbled the ball away when he got hit, and
Speaker 4: he also threw an interception by not putting enough on
Speaker 4: the football. I mean, there was a window there and
Speaker 4: he just didn't throw it hard enough, not enough velocity.
Speaker 4: But on the play prior to that, he made a
Speaker 4: fantastic jump pass to convert a third down and I
Speaker 4: was like, there's the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that play was crazy. That was the two
Speaker 1: play sequence that defined Spencer Rattler as a rookie. He
Speaker 1: didn't need to jump, he just jumped for fun for style.
Speaker 1: I've never seen anyone put that much velocity a jump
Speaker 1: pass that went fifteen twenty yards down the field. There's
Speaker 1: some starting quarterbacks in the NFL. I'm not gonna name
Speaker 1: names because their fans are gonna get mad, but they
Speaker 1: couldn't throw it that fast with their two feet on
Speaker 1: the ground. Spencer Ratler's got a hose, so it'd be
Speaker 1: fun to see him at some point in a different system.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he lost his center today. Eric McCoy MVS
Speaker 1: got sick on Monday. He's been their number one receiver,
Speaker 1: so he didn't even play. I mean, it was a
Speaker 1: it was a disaster for them even before this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Kevin Austin and Dante Pettis are the
Speaker 4: leading receivers that aren't playing tight end, Foster Moreau and
Speaker 4: Juwan Johnson, three guys finished with two catches each. Like
Speaker 4: this is a low ceiling offense with just no firepower,
Speaker 4: So I can't hold it against him. I see what
Speaker 4: fuels the agenda with Spencer Ratler. It's the throw like
Speaker 4: the one we just talked about, but it's not. You know,
Speaker 4: he's not and he's better than Dorian Thompson Robinson, I'll
Speaker 4: say that, but he's still a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 1: I was talking to my friend Adam West, he does
Speaker 1: the Saints Block Party podcast. He was talking about, well,
Speaker 1: you got to you gotta see what you have in Rattler, Yeah,
Speaker 1: down the street, And I was like, yes, but there's
Speaker 1: literally nothing Rattler could do in this stretch that would
Speaker 1: impact what your decision making is. And that includes if
Speaker 1: he played incredible and the next three weeks he looked
Speaker 1: like one of the best rookie quarterbacks in the league
Speaker 1: out of summer. You still are taking a quarterback if
Speaker 1: you want to take a quarterback, and you're still doing
Speaker 1: it a free agency and Rattler's there like he can
Speaker 1: be part of some competition. Let's move off from that
Speaker 1: because the only the only important takeaway I think from
Speaker 1: this game from the Saints perspective is just I believe
Speaker 1: big nights like this primetime could impact Mickey Loomis's chances
Speaker 1: to keep that job. It's all I thought was important
Speaker 1: over the rest of this same season. I know locally
Speaker 1: they've talked that Darren Rizzy could keep that job. There's
Speaker 1: no way he's going to keep that job. But I
Speaker 1: do think meaning losing thirty four to nothing in primetime,
Speaker 1: I think it's going to help Gail Benson, the owner,
Speaker 1: look at what has happened with this organization and make
Speaker 1: a decision that for whatever reason, locally they don't think
Speaker 1: she's gonna make and get rid of Mickey Loomis, who's
Speaker 1: been running this organization like a mob boss for like
Speaker 1: twenty five years. So everyone's afraid to say anything about it.
Speaker 1: It's like Tammany Hall if you're a historian. And I
Speaker 1: think when she fired Dennis Allen over his wishes, that
Speaker 1: showed me, Okay, she's a little more plugged in and
Speaker 1: how this season ended would maybe affect him or not.
Speaker 1: And we're seeing how it's ending, whether it's fair or not,
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be out.
Speaker 3: So I'm just I'm glad.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you described him as a mob boss because
Speaker 4: I wrote and though what we learned that he's Teflon
Speaker 4: strong because he just stayed for some reason he avoids
Speaker 4: all the bullets, like he just keeps his job. This
Speaker 4: may be the low point that makes them considered. I
Speaker 4: totally agree with you. It's just that we are heading
Speaker 4: into an offseason in which who are the candidates to replace?
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of gms are names that you
Speaker 4: don't know at the time until there's.
Speaker 1: There's there's plenty. He's from a whole different generation. The
Speaker 1: reason he's teflon is because he runs the organization in
Speaker 1: a way. He he is almost an acting owner. She
Speaker 1: from all reports, she's very hands off. They have the
Speaker 1: Pelicans too, and he's involved in the business. He's involved,
Speaker 1: He's involved in everything, and I think it's just going
Speaker 1: to be a lot of work to replace him. But
Speaker 1: I think they need to do that work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a bit of a right hand man thing
Speaker 4: going on there, and you go away from that security.
Speaker 4: But how low do you do you sink before you
Speaker 4: decide to make a change. I think we're pretty close now.
Speaker 1: I think I think we're there. I think we got
Speaker 1: there tonight. And yet we came through with energy, with professionalism,
Speaker 1: like uh like Rashaan Gary. If you happen to see
Speaker 1: that clip of him stepping into that interview with Jordan
Speaker 1: Love and scaring the hell out of Lisa Saulters. Just
Speaker 1: just check that out. We couldn't get the rights to it,
Speaker 1: but if we could, I would play it right here.
Speaker 3: Came through.
Speaker 4: We came through with energy and professionalism, and in the
Speaker 4: spirit of Christmas. We came through with a jug of eggnog. Right,
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, this is for the audience.
Speaker 3: We're gonna fit this.
Speaker 1: You're you're an eggnog drinking the guy.
Speaker 3: To the face. No alcohol, just aggnog.
Speaker 1: Okay. I loved it as a kid, and it's been
Speaker 1: a long time. It's been a long time since I've
Speaker 1: had it. So maybe maybe an honor of you I
Speaker 1: will have that is it's like a little too sweet,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like little, a little sweet.
Speaker 3: I don't need.
Speaker 1: I don't need all that sweet at my age. All right,
Speaker 1: thirty four nothing Packers set up an important Week seventeen game.
Speaker 1: That's all we look for this time of the season
Speaker 1: against the Vikings. We will be back after the break.
Speaker 1: We are gonna make our coach of the Year ladder,
Speaker 1: do a little news and then get on our merry
Speaker 1: way back in the day, back on NFL daily, not
Speaker 1: a lot of news. Maybe just the teams are hanging out,
Speaker 1: they're buying presence. We got to get shook on the way.
Speaker 1: I mean, Ship's got a massive family there in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: That's why he moved back. I'm sure he's got some presence.
Speaker 3: He's got some I got some wrap. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we got to get you on your way,
Speaker 1: and you lucked out because yeah, there's there's really not
Speaker 1: a lot of news. One item which I haven't seen
Speaker 1: him getting picked up in a lot of places, so
Speaker 1: I did want to shout it out. Here is Sean
Speaker 1: McDermott getting asked about possibly resting his starters, and they
Speaker 1: weren't talking about week eighteen. They were talking about this week.
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting. Let's listen.
Speaker 2: I think really we're in the motive taking it one
Speaker 2: day at a time right now. May know a little
Speaker 2: bit more later in the week, and if that comes up,
Speaker 2: we'll we'll kind of dive into that then, but for
Speaker 2: right now, we're just taking it one one day at
Speaker 2: a time.
Speaker 1: Here. Hmmm, So I've said a lot on this podcast.
Speaker 1: How if a coach is saying he hasn't decided or
Speaker 1: he's evaluating the quarterback situation on a Monday. He always
Speaker 1: makes the change. I've been in this situation and enough
Speaker 1: to know when they say we'll come up with it.
Speaker 1: Then in this case, like, oh, he's probably gonna rest
Speaker 1: his starters in week seventeen if the Chiefs win, which
Speaker 1: is really interesting to me. I think that was how
Speaker 1: I took that answer, that if the Chiefs win on
Speaker 1: Christmas and you're playing your fantasy championship, watch out that
Speaker 1: Josh Allen might not play that whole game, or they'll
Speaker 1: they'll be careful with injured players, or they'll just rest
Speaker 1: players in general. I think for him to give that
Speaker 1: answer shows that they've already thought about it, and maybe
Speaker 1: they wouldn't rest week seventeen eighteen. Maybe they'd rest week
Speaker 1: seventeen and they'd play Week eighteen, but you know, going
Speaker 1: into the playoffs, who knows. But it just shows that
Speaker 1: it's on Sean mcdermoond's mind already.
Speaker 4: I think he's operating with the rare privilege of the
Speaker 4: Chiefs playing the Steelers on Christmas and that being a
Speaker 4: determining factor. But if you look at the standings in
Speaker 4: the conference, at least that's not necessarily the only team
Speaker 4: that could threaten them for seating. So I think it's
Speaker 4: a cautious approach in which he looks around and says,
Speaker 4: we're going to evaluate what happens after this week. But
Speaker 4: I also think it's the right approach because your quarterbacks
Speaker 4: are the most important guy. And we saw him loose
Speaker 4: feeling in his arm, and you saw what happened with that.
Speaker 4: So I think they got a reminder of how important
Speaker 4: your quarterback.
Speaker 1: Well, he yeah, but the one to the two is huge.
Speaker 1: Do they care about, you know, the two to the
Speaker 1: three potentially, but they have a game to play with
Speaker 1: there as well. They're up too games on the Ravens,
Speaker 1: who would be the team that has the diyebreaker on
Speaker 1: them there, So they could even punt one week, or
Speaker 1: they could win with their backups this week and then
Speaker 1: play their starters next week. Just something to watch. I
Speaker 1: just don't think it's gotten any pickup. But that got
Speaker 1: on my raidar there the Texans, who are also playing
Speaker 1: on Christmas, we're in the news quite a bit on
Speaker 1: my they claim Deontay Johnson. So is this just like
Speaker 1: a oh he's got all the Ravens playbook That's what
Speaker 1: people thought, because I know they could use some talent.
Speaker 1: But at this point, you got to assume Deontay Johnson
Speaker 1: is not helping your football team in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 3: I mean he didn't help the Ravens.
Speaker 4: He's on an odyssey of sorts this year, going from
Speaker 4: Carolina to Baltimore now on to Houston. I also think
Speaker 4: that it's a reaction to the fact that you lost
Speaker 4: Tank Dell. You don't have Stefan Diggs. You could use
Speaker 4: another veteran body in there, so maybe he does see
Speaker 4: the field. I think maybe it is more than just intellgating.
Speaker 3: You know, maybe.
Speaker 1: Maybe or they get a feel of him. And obviously
Speaker 1: other teams haven't loved what they've gotten out of Deontay Johnson,
Speaker 1: but he is a free agent. Maybe they'd be in
Speaker 1: a position to be like, hey, if you're going to
Speaker 1: take a cheap one year contract next year because you've
Speaker 1: hurt your value so low, where the team for you
Speaker 1: or the relationship gets work done, we'll see. I'm not
Speaker 1: expecting much. As you mentioned Tank Dell out for the season,
Speaker 1: Dimigo Ryans announced not only does he have a dislocated kneecap.
Speaker 1: He also has a torn acl so once again just
Speaker 1: wishing the best. That is gonna be a tough recovery
Speaker 1: for Tank Dell for a second offseason and he's been
Speaker 1: through a lot and we hope that he gets better.
Speaker 1: Somewhat surprising news, Jimmy Ward, their safety, who had really
Speaker 1: played well for them, is also out for the season.
Speaker 1: So that was a big loss in that game. He
Speaker 1: left midway through that game. He is not going to
Speaker 1: be back at all, so that's a big hit in
Speaker 1: their secondary. And Shaq Mason, who's one of the better
Speaker 1: players on a beleaguered offensive line, is week to week,
Speaker 1: So a lot of injuries there for the Texans before
Speaker 1: they suit up against the Ravens. They're heavy home underdogs.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that on Tuesday show. We are having
Speaker 1: a Tuesday morning Christmas Eve Day show that Jordan, Rod
Speaker 1: reag and I are going to tape and so that'll
Speaker 1: be in your feed sometime on Christmas Eve afternoon, and
Speaker 1: then we're going to be dark for Christmas. Haven't laid
Speaker 1: out the schedule here yet. I'm just honking Nick because
Speaker 1: I want to get to this ladder. The Coaches of
Speaker 1: the Year A couple just small injury items. Oulu Fashanu
Speaker 1: of the Jets, who's played well, is going to be
Speaker 1: out for the rest of the season, but it's not
Speaker 1: a serious injury, like a long term injury. It's a
Speaker 1: foot injury. And JK. Dobbins, the Chargers running back was
Speaker 1: designated to return, is going to be out of practice.
Speaker 1: So would love to see him on Saturday in Foxborough
Speaker 1: on NFL Network with our friend Chris Rose and Ross
Speaker 1: Tucker on the call. That's a that's a fun duo.
Speaker 1: I will get your take on this. Vikings Packers moved
Speaker 1: to four to twenty five Eastern on Sunday, a rare
Speaker 1: flex for a game that's like five days away. I
Speaker 1: love that, like they're gonna be the whole national window.
Speaker 1: It's a very strange Sunday slate, Nick, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've looked at it. Only six games early and
Speaker 1: only two games late, so the whole country is going
Speaker 1: to be watching that Vikings Packers game. It's one of
Speaker 1: the only really big games we have left the rest
Speaker 1: of the season.
Speaker 4: To be honest, well, I was hoping you're gonna get
Speaker 4: my Chris Rose takes, because that's my guy.
Speaker 3: But I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: Okay, No, let's hear it. Let's hear Ran for like
Speaker 1: two minutes.
Speaker 4: It's the homie. He's well versed in baseball, and I
Speaker 4: text him about baseball at the time. He's a great guy. No,
Speaker 4: it's that slate. It's not great. You already had to
Speaker 4: flex the Browns out of a primetime game into the
Speaker 4: four o'clock window just to get them out of there
Speaker 4: when they're playing the Dolphins. So why not put at
Speaker 4: least Packers Vikings a game with a ton of significance
Speaker 4: in the same window. I'm sure it'll be America's game
Speaker 4: of the week.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it's literally the only game at four twenty five.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins're right are at four five, and then there's
Speaker 1: only six games early and yeah, they're not a lot
Speaker 1: of big games. Cowboys Eagles is probably the best game
Speaker 1: early Saturday.
Speaker 4: Well, the Christmas week a Thursday, nay, three Saturday games,
Speaker 4: we're gonna be all spread out, which means we're gonna
Speaker 4: be watching football pretty much every day this week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, while we're While we're here, we got two Wednesday games.
Speaker 1: That's Christmas Now, NFL Daily on Christmas had Mercy on
Speaker 1: the Roberts family celebrating their first Christmas with their.
Speaker 3: Baby baby's first Christmas.
Speaker 1: Yes, and then we are gonna I'd be doing our
Speaker 1: Thursday preview show that it's usually taped on Wednesdays, but
Speaker 1: we're still doing the normal Steve Weish, Patrick Claibon and
Speaker 1: myself will be without Wish actually now that I'm thinking
Speaker 1: because he's going to be in Foxborough on NFL Network
Speaker 1: for too much information. Anyways, We're doing our previews show
Speaker 1: on Thursday. That'll come out. We will not be doing
Speaker 1: a Thursday night recap this week because we're going heavy
Speaker 1: on these shows, and we will be back, of course
Speaker 1: as usual for our Sunday night recap. So that is
Speaker 1: the order. Let's get to the Coach of the Year ladder.
Speaker 1: This is what matters, this is what the people want.
Speaker 1: Our ladders have been taking over the internet. Denver Broncos
Speaker 1: fans loved when I left bow Nicks out of the
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year conversation. Yeah, hasn't played great since,
Speaker 1: but we'll see. I'm also leaving Sean Payton out of
Speaker 1: the Coach of the Year. I'm just going to start
Speaker 1: with that. Sorry.
Speaker 3: Oh, this is so.
Speaker 1: The the group is so good. I'm just gonna say
Speaker 1: the like four guys, and I guess I'm spoiling some
Speaker 1: things here. Here are four guys that didn't make mine
Speaker 1: that if you put them like two or three in years,
Speaker 1: I would say, totally understand it. Sean Payton just missed
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. You know, they weren't even predicted to win
Speaker 1: their division in Vegas or whatever this year, although I
Speaker 1: had him, of course winning the super Bowl. Let's go
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, big turnaround for the Chargers. And Matt Lafleur,
Speaker 1: who we saw tonight. Those guys didn't even make my list.
Speaker 1: Let's start with your list at number five. We'll figure
Speaker 1: out who didn't make your list as we go.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have some variants here.
Speaker 4: And I had a really hard time figuring out figuring
Speaker 4: out number five because I think Lafleur does deserve a
Speaker 4: spot here. He is going to be number five on
Speaker 4: my ladder because of what we discussed earlier in the show,
Speaker 4: which is how he's really just grown this Packers offense
Speaker 4: to be a unit that can attack you from so
Speaker 4: many different angles. The way that he handled the league
Speaker 4: willis situation they didn't miss a beat with him. They
Speaker 4: changed their offense dramatically in those games to accentuate his
Speaker 4: strengths and went out and won football games. That alone,
Speaker 4: plus the potential of what they can do as they
Speaker 4: ride this hot streak into the postseason, makes me think, Look,
Speaker 4: I know he's had a lot of success there, and
Speaker 4: a lot of people put all that on Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 4: early in his time there, But this is a damn
Speaker 4: good coach. And I don't care that they made, you know,
Speaker 4: a deep run in the playoffs last year. I don't
Speaker 4: care about that. I'm not you know, I'm not using
Speaker 4: that as an evaluation here. He's had a great year
Speaker 4: of coaching. He's done a fantastic job. He deserves number five.
Speaker 3: On my list.
Speaker 1: Totally get it, Like it fits my criteria too of
Speaker 1: just is he a great coach, Like it's not just
Speaker 1: if you improve your team from a year ago, because
Speaker 1: the team before stuck. Like he is right there with
Speaker 1: McVeigh and anyone else as one of the best x's
Speaker 1: and o's coach and obviously can run an organization. That's
Speaker 1: why I have Mike Tomlin number five. I know they're
Speaker 1: coming off of a couple losses here and the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks are going to be really important. When
Speaker 1: I mentioned those four coaches that miss just for me,
Speaker 1: so that's that's nine different coaches. I probably could shake
Speaker 1: up my four through nine almost in any way. I
Speaker 1: feel good about my top three right now, top three
Speaker 1: to four. But the rest we'll see how this season
Speaker 1: shakes out. But as we stand now, I think he's
Speaker 1: done a great job. I think he was bold with
Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson move. Overall, it's just the you see
Speaker 1: it on the hard knocks, what he brings to get
Speaker 1: them ready to play each and every week. They've exceeded
Speaker 1: my expectations. Mike Tomlin is my number five. You give
Speaker 1: me your number four.
Speaker 3: I had eleven guys in total unconsideration there, So that's
Speaker 3: that's how deep this field is. My number four.
Speaker 4: I actually just made a last minute change because I
Speaker 4: just thought about it. It's Sean McVeigh. And it's not
Speaker 4: because you know the he's got a Super Bowl ring
Speaker 4: and everything else. It's because they've weathered an incredible amount
Speaker 4: of adversity. We wanted to leave them for dead at
Speaker 4: about week five this season, they were in a bad spot.
Speaker 4: And then they go on a run just to get
Speaker 4: better to five hundred, and it felt like a significant
Speaker 4: achievement with all the injuries they'd suffered. They lost Pooka
Speaker 4: Nakua in week one, they lost Cooper Cup shortly thereafter.
Speaker 4: They dealt with just an array of issues, and yet
Speaker 4: he's steadied this ship. They've won games in different ways.
Speaker 4: They won an ugly game this last weekend. They've won
Speaker 4: a couple of ugly games in a row. They've gone
Speaker 4: out and out gunned the Buffalo Bills at home. They've
Speaker 4: done it in every way possible. And I think that
Speaker 4: all starts with their coach, who flirted with retirement, has
Speaker 4: come back when the team that struggled and has got
Speaker 4: them back in playoff contention.
Speaker 3: Now, I think he deserves recognition.
Speaker 1: And he's better at game management. You're right, he should
Speaker 1: be on my list of at least ten that you
Speaker 1: shake up, because again, no problem with that. You were
Speaker 1: really splitting hairs with all these guys. I'm making a
Speaker 1: last second change. I'm putting Dan Quinn actually as my
Speaker 1: number four. Now, this is an award that's more than
Speaker 1: just X's and O's their defense, and he's a defensive guy.
Speaker 1: Is twenty first in the league in DVOA. Now that's
Speaker 1: a big improvement from last year when they were thirty first,
Speaker 1: So he gets some credit for that. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to give him a crazy amount of credit when they're
Speaker 1: twenty first, but it's a talent poor roster overall that's
Speaker 1: gonna make the playoffs. And is ten and five, and
Speaker 1: he made the decision to higher Cliff Kingsbury, and he also,
Speaker 1: like Mike Tomlin, is more than just x's and o's.
Speaker 1: He's a culture changer. He's he runs the building. I
Speaker 1: think he probably learned a lot from the first time
Speaker 1: he was a head coach. If you're wondering why he's
Speaker 1: not higher, it's just because the other coaches are incredible.
Speaker 1: But I think he's deserving to be number four. Sometimes
Speaker 1: don't I don't totally love giving We tend to give
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year to the guys who pop up
Speaker 1: out of nowhere and have one good, surprising year, and
Speaker 1: I'm giving something that maybe a little more programmed building.
Speaker 1: So Dan Quinn, you get it at number four. If
Speaker 1: you get even better next year, like some of these
Speaker 1: coaches are, you'd probably be even higher next year. All right,
Speaker 1: give me yours.
Speaker 3: Mine is also Quinn at three. Okay, this for all
Speaker 3: the reason the show.
Speaker 1: It was number three on mind and I wrote down,
Speaker 1: but I just changed it as I was going to.
Speaker 4: I think that the state of the Washington franchise last year,
Speaker 4: as opposed to where it is now, they have taken
Speaker 4: so many steps forward. I know Jane Daniels has a
Speaker 4: lot to do it, I know the Cliff Kingsbury does,
Speaker 4: but what you just said I think rings very true
Speaker 4: with me, which is still a talent board defense that's
Speaker 4: tenth in yards a loud per game. I know they're
Speaker 4: twenty first in DVOA and they're like eighteenth in points
Speaker 4: allowed per game, but they have taken enough of a
Speaker 4: step forward to make a playoff contending team, which is
Speaker 4: not anywhere near where we would have projected them when
Speaker 4: the season started, And that alone is an achievement that
Speaker 4: deserves some acknowledgment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going Andy Reid number three. This is the
Speaker 1: one where just people are so sick of the Chiefs
Speaker 1: that I can imagine some would get annoyed, But it's
Speaker 1: just who has been the best coach this year, and
Speaker 1: who's just the best coach. It's a hard thing to evaluate,
Speaker 1: but I do think when you're evaluating MVP, it's just like, well,
Speaker 1: who's a better players, who's having the best year, but
Speaker 1: also just who's better? And how can you say that
Speaker 1: your coach is that you would argue for are just
Speaker 1: a better coach than Andy Reid? I think it'd be
Speaker 1: hard to argue that. And then you look at the
Speaker 1: record that he's set in terms of consecutive one score wins,
Speaker 1: and I give Kevin O'Connell spoiler alert a lot of
Speaker 1: credit for his one score win record too. Well, you
Speaker 1: can't knock the goat, Okay, I guess I'm doing the
Speaker 1: thing that kids do where multiple people are the goat,
Speaker 1: because I don't think Andy Reid is the goat, but
Speaker 1: he's like, he's up there. He's the most important, I believe,
Speaker 1: offensive mind of this century. And he's gotten so much
Speaker 1: better at the game management stuff, and they keep winning
Speaker 1: these one score games, and he's taken I think, a
Speaker 1: very flawed team and he has them with the best
Speaker 1: record in the NFL. Wins and losses matter a lot,
Speaker 1: I believe, for the Coach of the Year award. So
Speaker 1: if anything, you could argue he should be even higher.
Speaker 1: Andy Reid number three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually agree with this a lot. He's not
Speaker 4: on my top five because of Chiefs fatigue. Not that
Speaker 4: I experienced it, but I just expect this from him.
Speaker 4: Let's change goat to go greatest coach, greatest of currently
Speaker 4: active coaches.
Speaker 3: He's the go cat.
Speaker 1: He is, without a doubt, the gokak. Now that Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick is that unc his son Steve, another feather in
Speaker 1: the cap for our guy, Ali Connelly, who reported Steve
Speaker 1: Belichick was going there weeks ago before everyone else did,
Speaker 1: all right, give me your number two.
Speaker 3: My number two is gonna be Sean Payton.
Speaker 4: And look, it's not easy to like Sean Payton because
Speaker 4: of his demeanor, but you love to see him unleash
Speaker 4: his offensive genius on a team that has a quarterback
Speaker 4: that he realizes he can he can work with, and
Speaker 4: he can work with bow Knicks. The way that he
Speaker 4: has adjusted to Bownicks's strengths gotten him out on the
Speaker 4: run so much and allowed that player to develop and
Speaker 4: also succeed. Save for the last couple of weeks, I
Speaker 4: think it was a massive feather in his cap. It
Speaker 4: was just a huge stride forward for this entire franchise
Speaker 4: because we knew that this is a team that had
Speaker 4: a defense that has played better than probably most people
Speaker 4: expected what was gonna be good, and now the quarterback
Speaker 4: is playing well enough for them to be in contention
Speaker 4: as well. Like they don't get here without Sean Payton.
Speaker 4: The way that he's adjusted to his personnel this year,
Speaker 4: which a lot of coaches struggle with. They try to
Speaker 4: fit square pegs in a round holes. Sean Payton's not
Speaker 4: doing that grand He had to go draft the guy
Speaker 4: to fit him into the hole. But it's working out
Speaker 4: for them, So I think he deserves some praise for
Speaker 4: that too.
Speaker 1: Love it. Like I said, this is not an award
Speaker 1: where I'm going to push back on what other people think.
Speaker 1: I really think there's a lot of ways you could
Speaker 1: go with this, and he does a lot of the
Speaker 1: things that I am saying is great about these other coaches,
Speaker 1: like what he's done to get the details and building
Speaker 1: this offensive line and getting the right coaches and just
Speaker 1: everything they are on their p's and q's, they've overachieved.
Speaker 1: He might end up on my top five in the end.
Speaker 1: I had him six today. It means that you don't
Speaker 1: have either my number two or my number one on
Speaker 1: your list, which is interesting. My one B and it's
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be determined who wins my
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year and perhaps who wins the AP
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year in Week eighteen by who wins that.
Speaker 1: At least that's how I'm looking at it. My one
Speaker 1: B is Kevin O'Connell outstanding job. I think it's a
Speaker 1: more talented team than you realize, so it's not just
Speaker 1: a bunch of ragtag guys. I mean, they have a
Speaker 1: really good offensive lineup. Of course they lost Darrisaw, but
Speaker 1: there's talent there, great skill position players around the quarterback.
Speaker 1: But he's right there with the foremost quarterback coaches in
Speaker 1: the league. And then he's like Andy Reid Nail's in
Speaker 1: these one score games. I think they're pretty good in
Speaker 1: game management. He lets Brian Flores do his thing, but
Speaker 1: he hired Brian Flores and he just seems like a player,
Speaker 1: that former player that has the pulse of his team,
Speaker 1: So couldn't do a better job. I'm just going to
Speaker 1: give my top two in a row and then I'll
Speaker 1: let you go because I think they're connected. I have
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell still number one. I think they've overcome a
Speaker 1: lot this year with these injuries, and overcome a lot
Speaker 1: of stepping up from an NFC Championship disappointment where they
Speaker 1: were one of the best teams in the league and
Speaker 1: actually getting even better, which I think is harder to
Speaker 1: do as a coach. So I am giving extra credit
Speaker 1: for the years of building that's gotten him to this point,
Speaker 1: because I think that is the hardest thing to do,
Speaker 1: is sustain success, and it's a great coaching job that
Speaker 1: he's done that, and in in game management and Ben
Speaker 1: Johnson and everything like, they're incredible at that too. So
Speaker 1: he's my one A, KOC is my one B, and
Speaker 1: I will probably favor whoever wins that Week eighteen game
Speaker 1: bar and anything else weird in between. That's probably how
Speaker 1: I'll go.
Speaker 4: So I'm going to get hate for not including Dan Campbell,
Speaker 4: and that's totally fine. I also want to point out
Speaker 4: that I love what Dan Campbell's done, and I love
Speaker 4: what Mike Tomlin's done.
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin, I've okay, do want to say that.
Speaker 4: I did the same thing with John Payton, So I know,
Speaker 4: just want to say that because I love them both
Speaker 4: very much. But I also think that Dan Campbell is
Speaker 4: somewhat comparable to Kevin O'Connell and that both are tied
Speaker 4: to a really good coordinator, Dan Campbell obviously, with Ben
Speaker 4: Johnson coordining that offense and they're putting up tons of
Speaker 4: points and everything else. Yes, they've overcome a lot, right,
Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell is very much tied to Brian Flores, not
Speaker 4: as much though, I think, as Dan Campbell is to
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson. And this is why Kevin O'Connell this year
Speaker 4: has gained so much credit with me for how he's
Speaker 4: piloted this team. This is a team with Sam Freakin
Speaker 4: Darnold at quarterback, and they're excellent. They are a team
Speaker 4: that I cannot doubt anymore. They're a good team. They're
Speaker 4: a talented team. They also have a defense that is
Speaker 4: damn good, a defense that's really aggressive, that creates turnovers
Speaker 4: and then the offense goes out and capitalizes on it.
Speaker 4: But for some reason, when O'Connell first got there and
Speaker 4: they had all those one score wins a few years ago,
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know, a flash in the pan.
Speaker 4: They feel kind of fraudulent. I'm a full believer in him.
Speaker 4: Now as a coach, he's confident. He goes out there
Speaker 4: and he gets the job done, and he does it
Speaker 4: in a number of different ways where he's just out
Speaker 4: coaching other guys. They're always like a step of ahead,
Speaker 4: and that to me is the sign of a coach
Speaker 4: is going to be around for a really long time.
Speaker 4: I think that this Viking season has caught most people
Speaker 4: by surprise, if not everybody, including me. It started a quarterback,
Speaker 4: but it's much more than that. A lot of it
Speaker 4: has to do with their coach.
Speaker 1: What a difficult job it's going to be in Chicago
Speaker 1: because you're going up against Dan Campbell, Kevin O'Connell and
Speaker 1: Matt lafleur ye six times a year. Indefinitely, I can't
Speaker 1: remember a division that was this good, especially with young
Speaker 1: head coaches. It's scary, it's competitive and it's scary. And
Speaker 1: then you think about the AFC West, where it's like
Speaker 1: the old crew Sean Payton, Jim Harbaugh, and Andy Reid.
Speaker 1: Good luck to the Raiders coach that comes in there.
Speaker 1: It's like these two divisions are just loaded with really
Speaker 1: good they're just praying for retirements, early retirements for all
Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah, I mean in AFC West they're closer.
Speaker 1: These guys in the NFC North, they're going to be
Speaker 1: around a while. That was our Coach of the Year, Ladder.
Speaker 1: You know what time it is now, it's our favorite
Speaker 1: time of week. Time for the Captain's Corner, presented by
Speaker 1: Captain Morgan. I've got a really dumb pick, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you go first.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, my pick's going to be pretty chalk.
Speaker 4: You know we talked yesterday about Actually Weisch was the
Speaker 4: one who texted you just the level of quarterback play
Speaker 4: that occurred between the Vikings and Seahawks and Seattle Sam Darnold.
Speaker 3: Look, it's chalk, and I get it, but.
Speaker 1: Wow, it could be justin Jefferson because he was kind of.
Speaker 4: Well, you'll never see that game. You'll never see me
Speaker 4: do that. That's too chalky for me. And that's including
Speaker 4: the zeg Dog. You know, it's kind pretty chalky from
Speaker 4: time to time. Hey, Now, Donald made some throws in
Speaker 4: that game that we've seen him make before. But that
Speaker 4: touchdown pass that we played as a highlight yesterday that
Speaker 4: put them in the lead doing it on the road,
Speaker 4: I don't know, man like There's just something about the
Speaker 4: way he's played this year and the way he played
Speaker 4: on Sunday that just again reinforced that, you know what
Speaker 4: I can get behind this team. He might make a
Speaker 4: mistake or two here and there, but he is a
Speaker 4: completely different quarterback than he was a few years ago,
Speaker 4: and Sunday proved.
Speaker 1: It to me way less mistakes. I thought he was
Speaker 1: really good with his pocket movement, how quickly he's getting
Speaker 1: through his reads. Just really solid, really consistent snap the snap.
Speaker 1: Love that pick. My pick is Kenny Pickett, whoa I watch.
Speaker 1: I watched this game, okay, and we live in this
Speaker 1: world where if a receiver catches a ball, then suddenly
Speaker 1: everyone blames the whole game on the backup quarterback, like, oh,
Speaker 1: well they didn't take advantage with Saquon Barkley. You know
Speaker 1: they're they're loading up to stop him. One's Pickett. Pickett
Speaker 1: was terrible in this Okay. It's like, I go and
Speaker 1: watch the game today expecting Pickett to be terrible. He
Speaker 1: hits on three fourth down throws, he hits aj Brown
Speaker 1: deep down the field, he gets a couple of deep pis.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Kenny Pickett was the best Player in
Speaker 1: the Week. But I was like, he was exactly what
Speaker 1: you would hope out of your backup quarterback. In that game,
Speaker 1: he came in and technically it was only seven to
Speaker 1: nothing at the time, they were in the red zone,
Speaker 1: but he hit the touchdown slant like they put up points.
Speaker 1: He made a bad mistake or two for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He also finished the week thirteenth in EPA per play,
Speaker 1: fifteenth in completion percentage over expected. HiT's Kenny freaking picket.
Speaker 1: What do you expect anyone complaining about Kenny Pickett in
Speaker 1: this game? I don't like it. So I've decided if
Speaker 1: he's not, he's gonna get that much grief from all
Speaker 1: the Eagles fans and the media that I was listening to.
Speaker 1: He's going to get my Captain of the Week just
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm just feeling generous.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if he would have, if he would have had
Speaker 4: his receivers catch a few more of those key passes
Speaker 4: late in that game, I think.
Speaker 1: Won the game if DeVonta Smith got the ball, and
Speaker 1: then you're like, he hat that drive. He was great
Speaker 1: on that drive.
Speaker 4: Actually, everybody's on board if they make those catches. So
Speaker 4: I'm not You're not too far off.
Speaker 1: I just think he's get a miraculous like fourth down
Speaker 1: while on the move. I'm just saying he wasn't even
Speaker 1: that good. I'm I'm very low on Kenny Pickett. I
Speaker 1: thought Tanner mckeishould have gotten that job. But that was
Speaker 1: actually one of the best Kenny Pickett performances I've seen.
Speaker 1: And it was just like, you know, stupid people just
Speaker 1: people just watch the the score and they make their
Speaker 1: their highlights.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do.
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