WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Kadeem Hardison Talks 'The Chi' S6, A Different World, Working With Tupac, DEEMED Collection + More

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<v Speaker 3>We got a special guest in the building, the legend

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<v Speaker 3>de Hardes.

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<v Speaker 2>What what Welcome back, Let's go, Let's go now you're

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<v Speaker 2>feeling feeling good. Bro, I've been running around New York

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<v Speaker 2>promoting the Shy Lot about the tour, talking them about

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<v Speaker 2>some glasses.

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<v Speaker 4>Your own line of the Wayne Wayne flip up glasses

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<v Speaker 4>about it's.

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<v Speaker 2>About time because because we can give it back a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. Okay, we can put it into a scholarship fund.

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<v Speaker 2>If we sell them, we help somebody go to school

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<v Speaker 2>and learn. It seemed like a good idea. This guy here,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you ever wanted to do a glasses line?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like yeah. And then we found these girls

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<v Speaker 2>in Brooklyn, Brooklyn stand up. Vontel is the name of

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<v Speaker 2>the company, Tracy and Nancy, and they make glasses and

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<v Speaker 2>they sell glasses. And we pair it up with them,

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<v Speaker 2>and I told them about exactly how I wanted them,

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<v Speaker 2>what I wanted them to do, and they made it happen.

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<v Speaker 5>You popular popularized that style. It's not even absolutely, not

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<v Speaker 5>even close.

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<v Speaker 3>But how can we how can we order? The first

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<v Speaker 3>of all, because I gotta order. I gotta support.

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<v Speaker 2>Montel dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>You got some pants over there.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me say that.

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<v Speaker 6>What I'm talking about they only got over You got

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<v Speaker 6>your own glass company.

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<v Speaker 5>You have someone now, but they're not together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yes, magnetic. Okay, I said it a magnetic Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know you just oh, okay, you fly fly?

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<v Speaker 3>Why try?

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe you know the big when you started wearing these

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<v Speaker 5>with the for prescription or you just was trying to

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<v Speaker 5>look cool.

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<v Speaker 2>No executive producer at the time. Okay, And beast who's

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<v Speaker 2>passed away rest in peace. She saw him in a

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<v Speaker 2>David Bowie concert and she came to me two days

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<v Speaker 2>before we taped anything because I was added to the

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<v Speaker 2>show after about four episodes were shot, so they had

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of shoot us. And then the sin She

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<v Speaker 2>came to me two days before we shot and had

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<v Speaker 2>these glasses and it was like, I saw these in

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<v Speaker 2>a David Bowie concert. Bass player somebody had them on.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you like to wear these? You could work them in?

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought, at the time, I thought the character

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<v Speaker 2>was so corny. I just wanted to hide. This was

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<v Speaker 2>the perfect little boom I could just if I if

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think a joke could work, if I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like what I was doing, I could flip them down

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully nobody would recognized me. I could go and

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<v Speaker 2>have a career afterwards. And now I look and look

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<v Speaker 2>at this, it's dope.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell them again how they can get him if they want.

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<v Speaker 2>To order them. Bontel dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Bonteil dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>D E E M E D.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the name of the glasses Wayne Wayne Glasses.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw recently y'all did, Dwayne And yeah, yeah, got

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<v Speaker 4>your naked Dean Harrison right there.

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<v Speaker 2>We signed. This is a little limited edition.

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<v Speaker 5>Now. I saw y'all did a White House visit recently.

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<v Speaker 5>Whole cast of the different world.

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<v Speaker 2>That was wild. I'm more comfortable at Comic Con actually,

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<v Speaker 2>but they they they invited us and and Darryl Bell,

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<v Speaker 2>who is our team leader, hooked this all up and

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<v Speaker 2>got us in and and I was surprised at how

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<v Speaker 2>overwhelmed I was, because at first I thought this is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be high security robots standing everywhere, It's gonna be crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was just people in the building, just regular

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<v Speaker 2>people in the building going to work. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>whole fact that is the house that slaves building. And

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<v Speaker 2>then she was so warm and Vice yeah, Adam, vice

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<v Speaker 2>president uh receptive to us and knew who we were. Yea, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but you don't you know what I mean, when you

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<v Speaker 2>do the gig, you don't really think everybody's paying attention.

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<v Speaker 2>You hear from people and you know they paying attention,

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<v Speaker 2>but you don't really think the whole planet is playing attention.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, she cleared the room and gave us a

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<v Speaker 2>good fifteen minutes and talked to us normal, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she was just dope. It was it was like I said, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't want to go to White House.

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<v Speaker 2>What am I going to do in the White House.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to comic Colls.

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<v Speaker 3>And how is it going on that to all? Because

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<v Speaker 3>you've been you've been in.

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<v Speaker 1>Every HBCU the White House, and you guys have been

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<v Speaker 1>getting such a warm reception.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's amazing that the students eighteen nineteen years old,

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<v Speaker 2>they they know us. They scream like I'm usher or something,

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<v Speaker 2>walking like I don't understand that part. I really thought

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<v Speaker 2>it would.

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<v Speaker 5>Have died that reruns, Manna. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But the influence that that that show has had, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's the influence, it's the fact ridiculous we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>those schools and we're talking to them about school and

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<v Speaker 2>they're open. They love it. They screamed, they love to

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<v Speaker 2>hear the stories, they love to hear baby please. They

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<v Speaker 2>love all of that. And it's the retroactive love. That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of overwhelming. Sometimes we get in there and

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<v Speaker 2>we really are not expecting or yeah, we're not expecting

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<v Speaker 2>it to be like that. We're expecting it to be nice,

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<v Speaker 2>and they go in, they greet us like heroes or something.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys are to our community.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, if you got people out there who say, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I went to college because of a different world, that's

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<v Speaker 4>a different level of impact.

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<v Speaker 2>That's me.

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<v Speaker 3>I tell you all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>That was was he Dominican.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask, you know, you ever thought

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<v Speaker 1>about putting the director's hat back on and creating that again?

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<v Speaker 1>Just different a new day because you go into the HB,

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<v Speaker 1>you see how much it's needed, you see what the

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<v Speaker 1>students like. You can recreate that because you know what works.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't even have to be called a different world.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be right. We've been actively trying to do

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<v Speaker 2>that for about twelve fifteen years, and since we don't

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<v Speaker 2>own it and it doesn't, like you said, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to be called that. But that's what everybody knows.

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<v Speaker 2>The blueprint is there, and I never thought for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, I thought this will never happen. It just

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<v Speaker 2>it's not in the cards. It's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't get the rights. They keep him, and it hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I say never, say never, because if Debbie gets

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<v Speaker 2>excited about something, if we can get Debbie excited, Debbie

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<v Speaker 2>out of excited about something, then anything as possible.

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<v Speaker 4>And then clearly that's that setting still works because you're

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<v Speaker 4>on Grown Ish now and Grown has been along how

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<v Speaker 4>many seasons?

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<v Speaker 5>Six seasons? Yeah, something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when if we did it, I thought this show

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<v Speaker 2>should never end. I thought, yes, let me out, let

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<v Speaker 2>you azz out, let us go on and go on

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<v Speaker 2>and and go off and do stuff. But then bring

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<v Speaker 2>new freshmen in and keep talking about what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, keep addressing the same the issues. Like

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<v Speaker 2>it seemed like like soul training. It should have never stopped,

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<v Speaker 2>but but it did. And uh and now thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>years later, you know it's needed. You can see that

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<v Speaker 2>it's needed. Hey, es, Hey, I just love you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm happy to see that you're gonna be on the

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<v Speaker 6>shot the shot. Yes, how did that happen? Were you

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<v Speaker 6>familiar with the show before?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I watched the first season and was in love

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<v Speaker 2>with it and then book some gigs and went out

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<v Speaker 2>of the country and d D and the next thing

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I turned around and they five six seasons in.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Lena, put me on.

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<v Speaker 4>Lina, don't be calling your company him and grad and

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<v Speaker 4>I look out for another helmet.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to be on this show.

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<v Speaker 5>Who's your character going to be?

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<v Speaker 2>I played doctor Elijah Professor Elijah Gardner. He is an

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<v Speaker 2>English literary professor and he is that favorite teacher that

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<v Speaker 2>inspires his students to push harder. So yeah, So the

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<v Speaker 2>strike had happened and everybody was out of work, and

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<v Speaker 2>she called up and was like, I got something you

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<v Speaker 2>want to come And I was like, yes, not even

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<v Speaker 2>do I want to, And don't even send me a script.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on my way. Yeah, So yeah, it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was easy once once we got out of the strike

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<v Speaker 2>and everything, then it really kicked off.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we just had chimp fields up here.

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<v Speaker 4>And you made me think of something when you said

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<v Speaker 4>you just called Lena, because I asked her, what's more

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<v Speaker 4>important to have people black people behind the scenes are

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<v Speaker 4>in front of the camp.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>Behind the scenes, they create the jobs, they create the

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<v Speaker 2>opportunities We partied with the people in front of the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. We all hang out, we

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<v Speaker 2>know each other, there's a familiarity, there's a love of trust.

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<v Speaker 2>But behind the scenes is where the deals get made,

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<v Speaker 2>but where the stuff happens. So it's good to know

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<v Speaker 2>that she was inspired by us and named her company

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<v Speaker 2>him and grad and shot through the ceiling with her

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<v Speaker 2>with her talent, and it's able to say, Okay, let

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<v Speaker 2>me write something, let me create something, and let's pull

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<v Speaker 2>them let's start pulling them in. So yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's more important to know people.

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<v Speaker 3>Who write, you know, lean up beforehand or.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I just reached out to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Just love the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was a fan of the show and a

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<v Speaker 2>fan of hers, And just when Twitter was Twitter, I

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<v Speaker 2>just was on the DM. I'm like, yo, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>big fan. She was like, you taught me how to dress. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>you taught me how to My whole swag is built

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<v Speaker 2>on you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm telling to look like, put it on of that.

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<v Speaker 3>But how she was dressing she used to do to

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan's and Jersey.

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<v Speaker 6>Still yeah, but every now and then I'm like, sho

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<v Speaker 6>mean different events and different stuff. So you know, you

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<v Speaker 6>know to on the occasion, she dresses differently sometimes, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>now the shot is very heavy Chicago based, right, and

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<v Speaker 6>then you being from New York, did you have to

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<v Speaker 6>like change anything that you have to be more Chicago

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<v Speaker 6>or like, how did you prefer that?

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<v Speaker 2>I really I just kind of you know, I knew

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<v Speaker 2>this guy. He's for me, an extension of Dwayne Wayne.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's really like at the end of a different world.

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<v Speaker 2>Dwayne was teaching and he loved his students, and he

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<v Speaker 2>had some run ins with him sometimes it didn't go

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<v Speaker 2>so well, but he was learning. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>Professor Gardner is an extension of that or evolution of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I wasn't trying to do a Chicago accent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah going there now. I was just keeping this simple.

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<v Speaker 2>And and my actors cats I got to work with

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<v Speaker 2>phenomenal and I didn't know their storylines, Like I watched

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<v Speaker 2>the first season. Then I stopped and got busy and

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<v Speaker 2>then went and shot it and didn't know who I

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<v Speaker 2>was working with. Or I come up to me street, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Curtis, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Curtis Cook.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Curtis Cook, I played on the show. Okay, nice okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But but then I came back after I shot and

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<v Speaker 2>watched them all washed up until now and uh, crazy crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're all so good. I'm such fans now that

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen them on Now I know all of them

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<v Speaker 2>about Oh yeah, that's dude to that's all. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a fun ride on the shot.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you still audition? I ask Kimn. I said, do

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<v Speaker 3>you still audition?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, really audition the two weeks ago. Yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>The offers are nice, but they're few and far between.

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<v Speaker 2>For a long time, I was proud of the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that another audition for Spike, he just called me Ernest Dickerson,

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<v Speaker 2>he just called me, sat down, we had lunch, he

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<v Speaker 2>gave me a script and was like, I'd like you

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<v Speaker 2>to be this guy. I was like, wow, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that's how it went when I was younger. So

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<v Speaker 2>now that I'm older, anytime somebody offers me something, it

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<v Speaker 2>just means they want you. They know what you can do,

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<v Speaker 2>and they want you. And that always feels really good.

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<v Speaker 2>That feels way better than well, it's nice to earn it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nice to go in and they don't want you,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you flip them. That's even better sometimes. But

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<v Speaker 2>it really feels good when you can just like get

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<v Speaker 2>a call and say some soon wants to work with

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<v Speaker 2>you and they wrote something and wow, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>When it comes to auditioning, though, it's like you're a

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<v Speaker 4>new person now though you know you're a O G

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<v Speaker 4>now serent thing like there's not They probably had a

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<v Speaker 4>certain vision of you from the kadem heartists and they

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<v Speaker 4>knew then.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're like you're a old different person now. Really

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<v Speaker 5>we all are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's nice to keep reinventing the wheel, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. It's it gives me a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>I always thought I was a really good actor, and

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't until maybe seven or eight years ago that

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<v Speaker 2>I saw something that made me rebelieve it. Because for

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<v Speaker 2>a while, you go through a stretch where the jobs

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<v Speaker 2>ain't happening and you think, and plus I don't watch

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<v Speaker 2>my stuff. I get hypercritical. So I'll leave it out there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's for y'all, and y'a always tell me if you

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<v Speaker 2>like it or But I'll wait ten twenty years before

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<v Speaker 2>I go and look at something. It took a long

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<v Speaker 2>time to look at a different world. I watched it.

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<v Speaker 2>We went to the premiere, we had a premiere party,

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<v Speaker 2>and I watched the first episode and I never watched

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<v Speaker 2>after that. Really, Jesus, that's bad. I just felt that's

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<v Speaker 2>not good. That's not what I thought it was gonna be. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's me. I see every ground ball I missed,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. If it's if it gets

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<v Speaker 2>past me, then that's an error. And I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>should have. I should have. I should have could have.

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<v Speaker 2>Why didn't I? So I watched it all like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then about eight years ago, Love Is. I watched

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<v Speaker 2>Love Is just because I loved the other characters and

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<v Speaker 2>what they were doing and any other actors. And I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't in a way I didn't get in a way

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<v Speaker 2>I was able to see it and was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't man. And then I was like, oh shit,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting better as an actor. At fifty.

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<v Speaker 5>You never watched nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>You never watched the wedding crashing scene, You never watched

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<v Speaker 4>when you stopped.

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<v Speaker 5>I see the sexual assault, like, you never watched none

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<v Speaker 5>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched the clips, but not when we did it.

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<v Speaker 2>I did it experience any the experience that I had

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<v Speaker 2>doing it talking to the actor. Relating and being truthful

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<v Speaker 2>was way better than the editor and the producer and

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<v Speaker 2>the sound man I could mix and come up with.

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<v Speaker 2>When I watch it from outside of my body's completely different.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I'm here then nothing's going to ever touch that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why a lot of the greats go through plays

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't never have to see it and done. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and every night it can be it's your show. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the director can lead you up there and then he

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<v Speaker 2>has to fall back in the crowd with the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of them, and you get to go on and I

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<v Speaker 2>may be this tonight or I may be that tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's no judgment. You get to live it out

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<v Speaker 2>as fiercely as you want. So, yeah, I'm scared of

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<v Speaker 2>plays I've done too.

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<v Speaker 4>How many times did you have to jump on that

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<v Speaker 4>car when you did the scene when you came through

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<v Speaker 4>the sun roof?

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<v Speaker 2>I think twice twice. I think twice because time pushed

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<v Speaker 2>me off. He wasn't supposed to do that, really, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had to get back that was supposed to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Then then he pulled me in and he wasn't supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to do that, And that's when I started yelling run Freddy,

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<v Speaker 2>Run wait fred They wait, yeah, yeah, get the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>out here, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I was. I was

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<v Speaker 2>always like I learned early on, maybe sometime in the

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<v Speaker 2>first season, that the audience was really paying attention to

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<v Speaker 2>what I was doing, because, uh, there was there was

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<v Speaker 2>some scene I think Denise had to have a pig

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<v Speaker 2>nose on or something like that, and Lisa and and

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<v Speaker 2>and I had just a little off cuff reaction to

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<v Speaker 2>it something I did in the scene and I heard

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<v Speaker 2>the audience got a bubble from it, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't in the script. There wasn't nothing, And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, huh. So then I just said every time,

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<v Speaker 2>I just loaded up my chamber and I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's something to do just in case something

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<v Speaker 2>don't go right. And I had no idea Duke was

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<v Speaker 2>going to like I felt like the scene was going

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<v Speaker 2>or the take was going bad, because when he pushed me,

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<v Speaker 2>I fell off the car and had to rejump on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time a rehearsal jumped up on there stayed on there,

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<v Speaker 2>did it seem But but the one time when he

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<v Speaker 2>pushed back and then I slid off and then had

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<v Speaker 2>to re jump on. I was like, all right, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a bust to take but that looked great.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and play.

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<v Speaker 2>So Freddy Waite was because he started to pull me

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<v Speaker 2>into the car and that was that wasn't rehearsed. Wow

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<v Speaker 2>for help, help Freddy.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to know, like, we look at characters that

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<v Speaker 1>are iconic to us, and sometimes they can't get out

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<v Speaker 1>of that character. Like we've seen it with Steve Verko

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, he's always Steve Verko right, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Even to you to a part he tried to take

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<v Speaker 5>your glass of swag too. At one point he did

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he had to flip a glass on on on.

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<v Speaker 1>For maybe for a couple of because he put up

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<v Speaker 1>that I do that nice, that's not bad.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you get out of that? So Pe? We

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<v Speaker 3>just didn't see you as that all the time, and

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<v Speaker 3>was that difficult?

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<v Speaker 2>I think people still, well, the people still see me

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<v Speaker 2>as that. That's what resonated most with them. Some people

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<v Speaker 2>love Vampire and Brooklyn, some people always love the white

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<v Speaker 2>Men can't Jump. But I think that the mass they

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<v Speaker 2>see me as that, and if that never changes, I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The industry I couldn't get auditions for Singleton movies or

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<v Speaker 2>any of those like hood movies, because they thought I

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<v Speaker 2>was a college kid, and I was like, I barely

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<v Speaker 2>finished high school.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, man, that's crazy, I'm not the you tried out

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<v Speaker 3>for boys in the hood, you know I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't get a meeting. Wow. They was like, nah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're good. Would they would cast it before? I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>how these movies getting made? And I'm right here, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>right here. I don't know me and but I was

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<v Speaker 2>like more edge from school days then Dwayne from a

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<v Speaker 2>different world, you know, a mixture of the two. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I could. I'm from Brooklyn. I could

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<v Speaker 2>do that. I could, I could do that, But I

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<v Speaker 2>could never get a meeting. I could never get a

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<v Speaker 2>sit down.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm sorry you did not used to have to

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<v Speaker 5>flip up. He used to flip him down and.

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<v Speaker 4>Be like, you're right. You know you said earlier that

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<v Speaker 4>dal Bell was your leader, Yes, right, yes, So how

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<v Speaker 4>do you even keep that band together?

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<v Speaker 5>Because you know you got ol g R and B

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<v Speaker 5>groups that hate each other. How do y'all keep y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting We grew up together, we came to the city together,

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<v Speaker 2>We came in you know, to l a together. We

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<v Speaker 2>were all from somewhere else and we had each other

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<v Speaker 2>to lean on. We needed each other. We hung out

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<v Speaker 2>with each other. It was true love. It wasn't. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like fake. Sure these the Godfather and my kid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like we are connected, we stay connected. So that's that

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<v Speaker 2>was easy. That wasn't. It was never any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't want to go if so and so going. No.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it is interesting when you talk about the movie

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<v Speaker 4>aspect of it, because I'm like, damn, you weren't in

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of those nineties.

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<v Speaker 5>Great he was a panther and white men can't jump

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<v Speaker 5>school days, but it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then there was a gap after Panther, there

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<v Speaker 2>was a gap. But I couldn't I couldn't get none

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<v Speaker 2>of them. I had to stay on TV at it

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<v Speaker 2>between brothers and some other things. But I couldn't get

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<v Speaker 2>in because I got into this because I thought I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna be a movie star when I was thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I'm gonna be a movie star. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do. And TV was kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>also ran like it just happened, but I really thought

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do it. Just different world thing for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of months and they'll get canceled and then I'll go

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<v Speaker 2>be a movie star. Because I knew West was come in.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew there was some wolves in the pack. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I couldn't get in. I couldn't get in

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:07.200
<v Speaker 2>with those dudes.

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<v Speaker 5>Why was the transition so hard? But I think about

0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:11.960
<v Speaker 5>somebody like Jady picker Swift, she made the transition. She

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<v Speaker 5>might be. I can't really think of nobody else.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, Yeah, it was I don't know. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>went from you know, you're an actor, you're an actor,

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<v Speaker 2>you're an actor. Then they was like, no, we'll take

0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:27.120
<v Speaker 2>the comedians, the comedians, we want comedians. Comedians. Eddie kind

0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:29.720
<v Speaker 2>of started it. But Eddie just blew it open for

0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:34.600
<v Speaker 2>anybody young and black and sharp witted. He just made

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<v Speaker 2>he just created that cavern for me and Martin and

0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Will and everybody run through. But then after that it

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like it shifted where they after Cosby, of course

0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:50.080
<v Speaker 2>they wanted to do comedian shows based on comedians. They

0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:53.239
<v Speaker 2>can write, they can you know, they can be, and

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<v Speaker 2>then being an actor kind of kind of took aside

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<v Speaker 2>road or back seat to it. So yeah, I was

0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:05.760
<v Speaker 2>just tip said, everything goes in cycles, so you know,

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:08.440
<v Speaker 2>you wait for it to come back around, and it's

0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:11.600
<v Speaker 2>coming back around wearing glasses. I used to hate those

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:15.400
<v Speaker 2>glasses really, and it was really something that you used

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:18.720
<v Speaker 2>to hide behind. My mother was telling me last night, Yeah,

0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 2>you used to hate them. I used to get the

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:22.720
<v Speaker 2>calls you used to hate those glasses. I was like, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you did you hate?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you hide behind the glasses because you didn't like

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<v Speaker 4>the roles because you're dealing with like some type of imposts.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no it was I wasn't. I didn't understand

0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:35.159
<v Speaker 2>the role first season. First season, I just thought this

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:40.160
<v Speaker 2>is I got to go back to Brooklyn when klock, Yeah,

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 2>this is not going good. This is not And then

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<v Speaker 2>by the third season, mister Cosby said, Okay, it's time

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 2>to grow them up. Time to grow them up, lose

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<v Speaker 2>the glasses. And then kind of with that went most

0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 2>of the comedy of the silliness that I was doing

0:23:57.040 --> 0:24:00.439
<v Speaker 2>in the first couple of seasons, which I embraced. I

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 2>was like, okay, cool, but yeah it was it was

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:08.359
<v Speaker 2>calculated on his part to make him more of a man.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we's had those we did that we've seen him.

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<v Speaker 2>He can do that. Now, let's see what else is

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<v Speaker 2>in the bag.

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<v Speaker 4>That the other reason those characters are so beloved because

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 4>when you watch somebody go from a freshman in college

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 4>getting married, you know what I mean? Like, that's like

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 4>we grew up with y'all in a matter of how

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:25.159
<v Speaker 4>many was it?

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<v Speaker 5>Six seasons?

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Six seasons?

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:29.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's crazy when you think about it.

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't see it often because our streaming giants

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:36.639
<v Speaker 2>like to let shit run for one season. That's they

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:39.400
<v Speaker 2>be like, well, we don't know about the numbers, that's right,

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:41.360
<v Speaker 2>and then they try something else and now we don't

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:43.479
<v Speaker 2>know about the numbers, which is kind of sad. But

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:49.000
<v Speaker 2>it really takes seasons to grow with characters and learn them,

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 2>and it's always best when it works that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, you mentioned Wesley Snipes, Yes, sir, and I wanted

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:55.879
<v Speaker 3>to know how competitive was it back then because you

0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 3>said you just knew he was coming. So it made

0:24:57.800 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 3>me think of like, you know, when you were in

0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:01.439
<v Speaker 3>the NBA and then you got this college can be like, oh,

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:03.400
<v Speaker 3>he's coming about to be a Beast's that the same

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:04.680
<v Speaker 3>way when it came to acting.

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<v Speaker 4>We need dark skin, brothers needed one.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely just say that because he stabbed the light skin

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:12.679
<v Speaker 1>brother and the cheer.

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<v Speaker 2>Up. Yeah. I'm not the most competitive. I know what's

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 2>for me is for me and you can't really have it.

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:29.159
<v Speaker 2>But I knew the talent that was was emerging. I

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:30.960
<v Speaker 2>could see it. I could. I could see just in

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 2>the little the bad video. I was like, who's that?

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:40.920
<v Speaker 2>She's okay, another one and then it's less jobs, you

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? When when when you think, oh snap,

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm out in front, and then all of a sudden

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.879
<v Speaker 2>you're looking at somebody here and ship somebody here, and

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 2>then how did he get up there?

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 5>And that was a music video exactly?

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah's uh?

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 5>Music videos were like movies.

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 2>That was ceazy. Yeah yeah yeah, so yeah, I just knew.

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 2>I knew when when I saw Tupac, I thought he

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 2>was probably the most dangerous of all the young actors.

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:16.439
<v Speaker 2>And he was a rapper. Why was that just he

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 2>could reach a depth and he got that Martin Luther

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 2>King kind of energy that comes out of him. Even

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 2>the way he talks, it's melodic. So when you when

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I see him on screen and I hear him talk,

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, hmm, now I'm hearing jazz for the first time.

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm hearing somebody that then broke the mole, and

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 2>it's playing a whole different style. He's probably the one

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 2>guy that I was like, oh boy, if he keeps

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.879
<v Speaker 2>on acting, I'm gonna get less and less.

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 5>What do you see it? When he did different World

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 5>or something else?

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 4>Juice juice, He was intimidated when he came on set.

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 2>No no, no, like I said, what's mine is mine?

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 2>But but but I was thrilled that I got to

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 2>direct them, because all you have to do is say

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 2>action and then cut moving on like there was no

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure about that choice. Maybe you want to

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 2>bro This is where you get to be. I'm a

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 2>great director because look what I.

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:18.440
<v Speaker 5>Did, m M.

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 2>I had to pockets Jada and Bumper and all of them.

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 2>So they were all so good it makes you look good.

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 2>The best job a director can do is hire right people,

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 2>get true I'm sorry, get to a good DP, cast

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 2>the right actors, or get good casting, and then the

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 2>job it starts to get easier, and then you can

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 2>worry about the things you would worry about. So you

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 2>pick pocket for that.

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 4>No no, he said, you would have never picked pocket

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 4>told me.

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Since I wrote that. I wrote that episode and and

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 2>we asked Jada if he would do it, and she said,

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 2>let me ask him and he said yeah, and I

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 2>couldn't believe it. I was like, oh snap, So yeah, yeah,

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 2>you know he was. He was angry, you know, which

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 2>was sad for me because he'd have been somebody that

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 2>I would have hung out with. But I couldn't kick

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 2>the pass how angry.

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna ask you that what kind of person

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 4>was pot because I love hearing pop story just because him,

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:23.880
<v Speaker 4>him and Big.

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 5>Because they did such mythical figures. Yeah, so he was.

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 5>He was angry on set.

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 2>No, No, not in the space all right, in the space,

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 2>he was darling. But then I was out at the

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:36.919
<v Speaker 2>Beverly Center. Remember the Belly Sendingbody Belly Center. So I

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 2>was at the Beverly Center and and he was. I

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 2>was a level up and he was coming with I

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.719
<v Speaker 2>think it was Yo Yo and some friends and they

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 2>were coming. It was after rehearsal one day or something

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 2>like that, and I saw him and before I could

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 2>say something, somebody on the upper level said, hey.

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 5>That's two Pac.

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 2>That's two Pac, and he was like, it's Pot money

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 2>it's pot money and starts screaming like they was gonna

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 2>do something. I was like, why bro so mad, Like, yeah,

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 2>they mispronounced the name. You could keep walking, but he was.

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 2>He wanted to make it a point, and I get it.

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of bravado that goes on in hip hop,

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 2>so you gotta stand up for certain things. But I

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 2>just didn't. I didn't. I didn't understand why he was

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 2>like that, frustrated with the space.

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 3>They said you directed him.

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was Cosby when y'all wanted to use pop

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>because I know at one time Cosby was like, I

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>ain't messing with the rapidy rap.

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I never heard from him. I didn't really Like

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I had two brief encounters with Bill mister Cosby give

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 2>him that. So yeah, he never We got the call

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 2>through Debbie that it was time to grow me up. Okay.

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 2>He showed up when Whoope came to do the AIDS

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 2>episode with t Campbell. He showed up for some pictures,

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 2>but he really, you know, was behind the scenes, behind

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 2>the scenes. He wasn't all he made shut. He shot

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 2>his show in Queen's He said, you shoot your show

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 2>in California, So we was there was no way to go,

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.960
<v Speaker 2>and they won't let me. They won't let me. Hey man,

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 2>they won't let me. Can you help me with Now?

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Get out there, get your paddle, and get it home.

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 5>I want to go back to pock real quick.

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 4>People saying you said he was always angry, did anybody

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 4>trying to intervene like men, because you know, I know

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 4>he was very cool with the Jada pinkets and the

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 4>Jasmine guys, but then any black men be like, what's

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 4>up with brother man?

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I couldn't. I didn't feel comfortable approaching him because

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I would have I always think I have a you know,

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 2>I still want to sit down with Kanye and just wasted.

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I think you know, yeah, I

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 2>hear you, but.

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 4>I always exist and hypnosis.

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 2>I think if I sat down and we just became

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 2>cool and they had some conversations, maybe he sees something anyway.

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 2>But I didn't feel comfortable enough to approach him like that,

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Like he's doing his thing and I gotta kinda get

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 2>out of the way. I can't really try to change that.

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 2>That would be Foulet's see, he's on that path.

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 5>So but then you see how it ended and that's.

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 2>When you feel regret, Like I wish I would have

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 2>just said, yeah, I know you might not like me

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 2>or think I'm whatever, but let's sit down and talk

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 2>why you We don't have to be this is free

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 2>and easy.

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 6>But I can understand like the hesitation, because sometimes you

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 6>don't know how people will receive you exactly, you know,

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 6>and especially if like you and you don't know what

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 6>else he was going through, either like mentally or behind

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 6>the scenes, you know, because acting was just another part

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 6>of what you know he was doing, like rapping, and

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 6>then you can even hear in his music, you know,

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 6>like he had been troubled from you know, youth and

0:31:59.160 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 6>all that.

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, maybe you just didn't.

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Know like I didn't since I'm not a therapist or

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>anything like that. I was like, and you were young too, Yeah, yeah,

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 2>exactly were pierced. So I would have loved to but

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, I would have loved him at doom like

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 6>That then and then the way did you see I

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 6>really ain't.

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 5>Talking to you?

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Now?

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 4>Did you ever warn Jazzmine or Jada, like, hey man, no,

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 4>I didn't.

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:28.239
<v Speaker 2>That was their relationship there, you know. So I was

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 2>happy that that he had them in his life because

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 2>I thought, well, I can't get to him. I'm not

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking to him like that, so maybe you know,

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 2>this will this will sue the spirit a little bit.

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 5>I feel like every time I see you repping M. F.

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 4>Doom in some way, shape or form, like like what

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 4>the impacted his music have on you?

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 2>I like stories, and forever you you talk about top fives,

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm always slick Rick in my top five because he

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 2>took it to a place where was he was self deprecating.

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 2>He was funny and he told you a story, and

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 2>I thought, if you can do that, you win. Those

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 2>guys super rhymes. Those guys, to me were the winners.

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 2>And when Doom came along, he just it seemed like

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 2>he was talking to English or speaking in English, but

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 2>it was another language. And that was so attractive to

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 2>me because then I had to decipher it. Same with

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Wu Tang or what the wallows? I never did, you know,

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 2>since I didn't come from there, I didn't know what

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 2>that was, and I had to listen to it and

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 2>decipher it.

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 5>I learned the supreme alphabet. When you learn the supreme althaba,

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 5>you get a.

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 4>Whole new appreciation like, oh yeah, God sphered the vine,

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 4>Like yeah, so so you know, as a as a

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 4>teaching tool, you know what I mean.

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 2>I was always eager to learn from us in the

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 2>places that I couldn't I haven't been, and Doom just

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 2>he just opened it up for me. He said, hear ye,

0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:59.959
<v Speaker 2>hear ye, how dare ye go up against the king?

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Would do his thing? Try yearly mm hmm. I was like,

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 2>what does that mean? And then I looked at his catalog,

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 2>and in that year he dropped three albums, a hymn album,

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 2>a solo, a group album, and then a beat album.

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this dude is ridiculous, Like, oh, you

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 2>make the beats and you write the rhymes and you

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 2>say it in a way that nobody else is saying it.

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 2>Still to this day, I think he's, you know, one

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 2>of the best.

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:35.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I didn't get in the Dunes catalog the way

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 4>that I should. I'm like, goo Face Killer is my

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 4>favorite rappub all time.

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 5>So I got into that album they did together, but

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 5>I never got into like his his.

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Catag it's just weird. And as a as a comic nerd,

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 2>and and and and that kid, you know a little

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 2>bit shy. He spoke to me in a way that

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 2>it's like Rick did that, Super Rhymes did that, you know,

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:57.359
<v Speaker 2>other Kendrick Lamar does.

0:34:58.320 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 5>So who's the rest of the top five? Come on?

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Uh? I tried this, I really tried hard to

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 2>do my top five, and then there was another five,

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 2>and then there was another five. Then it turned into

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 2>my top five times five. Okay, I have a top

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty five. Okay, and I'd have to get my phone.

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 2>But most Death is there, Doom is there? Uh j

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 2>idea of the young Cats. Yeah, Cole is there, Kendrick

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 2>is there, Caine is there, Rock Chim is there, Chris is.

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:38.479
<v Speaker 5>There, Chris Brown.

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 2>It's a different world, was a whole different world. Knowledge

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 2>reigns supreme over nearly everyone.

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't do groups, so I didn't allow to

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 2>I didn't allow dirty math. That's groups. I got a

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 2>top seven, but the top twenty five times five, it

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 2>just goes on. No Biggie of course. But there's Mount Rushmore,

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:24.320
<v Speaker 2>which is a big j Nas and Cain or Chris

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 2>or whoever you're feeling at the time, and then.

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<v Speaker 5>A Brooklyn bias what.

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:36.799
<v Speaker 4>Brooklyn three from Brooklyn on the Mount rush a lot

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 4>of Brooklyn bios.

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, and then I start counting after that because

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:47.879
<v Speaker 2>I know that all of us can kind of agree on,

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, seven, And then I start digging into the

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 2>minutia and start trying to find the dudes that really

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of slick ricked of course that really made hip

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 2>hop and joy were for me, shooting groups, Dis's effects.

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 2>They changed the whole way of speaking. So it was

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 2>a mischief in the far side they in LA because

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 2>I was really mad at the time. I was in

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 2>LA and all I could get was I wasn't a

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 2>big hot take. I wasn't a Snoop Dogg Doctor Dre fan.

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Really I didn't like what they were saying, and I

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 2>was like, what is gin and Juice? I didn't even

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 2>understand what that meant. So I bought the album. I

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 2>bought two of them because I was supporting all of us,

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 2>and then I didn't open it for years. And then

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:39.439
<v Speaker 2>when I finally opened it and I was a little

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:41.320
<v Speaker 2>more mature, I could see the fun in it, and

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 2>I could see this is just a different part of

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 2>the culture because it's the West Coast, and since I'm

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 2>so East Coast dude. Three Brooklyn casts in the top five.

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 2>It took me a while accept it, and then I

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 2>production wise it was just philologist unbelievable. But the content

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 2>always got to be for me. What you're talking about.

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Your cadence gotta be good, Tony, your voice gotta be good,

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:13.839
<v Speaker 2>your writing has to be good. And then what are

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 2>you saying.

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:20.840
<v Speaker 5>Bis Biggie was talking about it just in that's true,

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 5>it's true.

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 2>But Biggie, what did you try to say? He was?

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't like that part. That was the part

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:35.720
<v Speaker 2>that that missed me when kicking the door with certain things.

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:37.759
<v Speaker 2>Just the way he rode a beat was just.

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 5>Phenomenal.

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:41.439
<v Speaker 2>It's another it's another level.

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 4>I think out of and out of everybody that we lost,

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 4>I constantly think about where Biggie would have been because

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 4>he was light years ahead of everybody's not too many

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 4>gifted rappers. He was a gifted rapper. He was born

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 4>to rape. And even when you listen to it now,

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 4>you're like, damn, there's not one big saw you can't

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 4>turn into a movie. Yeah, like literally, yep, not one yep.

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 2>That's what That's what I'm saying, Brooklyn Bias, bro.

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:14.440
<v Speaker 4>That's why have you had a role this is fulfilling

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 4>as your role is doing when yeah, okay.

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 2>I've had I mean it's usually for me. How much

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 2>fun am I having on set? And a few things

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 2>can top a different world because I did it for

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 2>so long and I grew up and I was it

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 2>was the beginning. It was really like my introduction to

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:42.960
<v Speaker 2>the world. So that's special. But I can't imagine not

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:46.239
<v Speaker 2>ever have as much fun as I did doing I'm

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Gonna get your sucking.

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:50.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, yeah.

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Every day Clean would come in and just be like,

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 2>go just let us be free. And Damon, who was

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 2>a huge influence, so you know, huge like Eddie, Like

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I used to follow Damon around to the comedy clubs

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 2>because I thought I want to do what he does.

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 2>He's that good and that impression that made that kind

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:14.920
<v Speaker 2>of impression on me that I wanted. I wanted to

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:17.760
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna do stand up comedy, and he talked

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 2>me right out of it. He was like, Bro, you

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 2>have a TV show. This is what all the comics want.

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 2>This is what you have, is what we're all trying

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 2>to get. You don't want to be doing this in

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 2>shitty little towns and staying in shitty little hotels and

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 2>flying around damn shitty little plates.

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 7>I ain't never do. They don't be putting like that.

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 2>New age comed Yeah. Yeah, but back then it was grin.

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of whole bunch of that, and

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 2>getting up and at midnight and going to a club

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 2>and then doing four clubs. And I was like, Okay, yeah,

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 2>I think you're right. I don't want to do all

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 2>of that, but yeah, I'm working with him on Sucker,

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 2>working with Eddie, which he was like an idol, you

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:14.359
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. There was no bigger influence than

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Eddie on anything I've done. So to do Vampire in

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Brooklyn and to get the call from him saying I've

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 2>seen all the tapes. You the only want that could

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:28.279
<v Speaker 2>do this. Wow, I was like what but telling them

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 2>to get the money right?

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:29.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It was incredible. You know those times that I'll

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 2>never forget. I just had the most amazing time on

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Teenage Bounty Hunters, you know, five six years ago, this

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.400
<v Speaker 2>little show where I was like, I'm gonna try something different.

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna try something different voice, I'm gonna try something

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 2>different with everything. I'm just gonna see if I can

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 2>dig deeper. And they let me do it, and one

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 2>of the most fulfilling wolves was playing bowser. It was

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 2>hard to shake you know how. You know some people

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 2>they they they lose themselves too far. But I was

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 2>talking like that, dude for like two years after that.

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't. I couldn't shake it out of my voice.

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I got so comfortable in it and was having such

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.240
<v Speaker 2>a good time with it that I was still talking

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 2>like this yet still walking around you doing all right.

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't find I couldn't find my register that I

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 2>know that this is. And now I'm out of it.

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 2>And it sounds weird because I was so comfortable in it.

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I take the jobs for the fun. The

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 2>money is a bonus. Actors, I say, we do it

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:52.280
<v Speaker 2>for free. We just pay us for waiting. Yeah. So,

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 2>so all of them have really been a joy, because

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.879
<v Speaker 2>that's that's what I think I do best, even though

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I just realized that fifty and it's the thing that

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:03.919
<v Speaker 2>gives me the most joy.

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 5>And you've been in the game thirty five years. Do

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 5>you fear your careers missing anything?

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:12.799
<v Speaker 2>No, just you know, growth, just still want to keep

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 2>doing it, still want to you know, I want to

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 2>be a villain. I want to be a this. I

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 2>want to do that. I'm like, it seems like we've

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 2>gotten too old for the romantic leads, but I grew

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 2>up in that, Like that was my thing. Like boy

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 2>meets girl, boy chases girl.

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 5>Are you too old? You're still fucking.

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:37.440
<v Speaker 2>But they don't seem to make movies with older you know,

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 2>they're not. They're not looking for that, they're not they're

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 2>not actively pursuing that. So it just seems like, oh,

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:47.800
<v Speaker 2>that's that might be a thing of the past maybe,

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 2>but it could happen. Yeah, maybe happen. Yeah. So yeah.

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just I love this, bro, It's what I do.

0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 2>We always appreciate you.

0:43:58.120 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 4>Just even to get to sit down a bill with

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 4>you man, you and icon and I that Hilman bossity

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 4>is very fresh.

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 2>That's dope. Chip Monk Chronicles shout out to my man

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:16.200
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0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 2>called them all.

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:18.359
<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 2>She got some and promo code that's right. Reboot now,

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 2>reboot now, get you get some, get a little bit

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:28.000
<v Speaker 2>off and they go to the cause. They'll be giving

0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 2>some money some kids and uh hopefully get somebody into college.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's Kadeem Hardison yes, and it's The Breakfast Club.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, wake that.

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<v Speaker 2>Ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club