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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera Judge.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and

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Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamra Judge.

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Speaker 3: Today we have Oh my god, I don't even know.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know how to give her intro.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if I had a bird book, I'd pull

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Speaker 2: it up right now, right the only.

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Speaker 4: Housewife they got let go and people who first season

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Speaker 4: housewife that was let go that people are pissed off about.

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Speaker 2: We are going to ask her all of those questions

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Speaker 2: that you feel went missing in past episodes and the reunion.

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Speaker 2: I think that there is a lot that we need

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Speaker 2: to dig in further because there were some things that

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Speaker 2: she said and she said we're quite adamantly.

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Speaker 5: Then maybe then we shaw screenshots she didn't appear to

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Speaker 5: be the truth.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we need to get the truth, okay.

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Speaker 5: And we're always gotta eye on the truth.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes. How are you doing? How are

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Speaker 3: you doing? Let's start off with that.

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Speaker 6: I'm okay, I'm okay. You know, I'm not good. I'm

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Speaker 6: not terrible. I'm okay. I'm better at reunion day, yeah

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Speaker 6: than other days. But I'm just I'm just okay right now? Now?

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Speaker 3: Is this okay because of the news that broke of

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Speaker 3: you not returning, like you're trying to wrap your head

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Speaker 3: around it or it makes you a little sad or

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Speaker 3: is there other stuff?

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Speaker 6: I am not surprised at all about me not being

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Speaker 6: asked back.

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Speaker 3: That was.

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Speaker 6: It. Yeah, I wasn't shocked by that at all. It

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Speaker 6: still hurts, like it's still like, oh damn, that stings.

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Speaker 3: Trust me, we both know, right, it still hurts.

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Speaker 6: It stings, and I feel like.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you something. There's one thing that

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Speaker 3: Andy said about you that he did not say publicly

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Speaker 3: about me and Teddy or me. He said it's a pause.

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Speaker 3: I mean he told me that privately, but he never

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Speaker 3: really said it publicly. But he basically said that you

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Speaker 3: know chance there you're going to be back.

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Speaker 5: Well, girl, No, I don't this cast.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I think I think

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Speaker 3: I might need to coach you a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, even though we just saw Lisa Barlow's recent

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Speaker 2: quote on people that said, I feel like this year

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Speaker 2: might be our best year yet, just based on what

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Speaker 2: I've seen and heard and how things are going so far.

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Speaker 2: I actually think it's going to be the most iconic

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Speaker 2: season ever, adding I don't want to think about the FEDS,

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Speaker 2: Homeland Secure, NPD showing up anymore. It's not interesting anymore.

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Speaker 2: We've been there, did that. I'm pretty sure it's done that.

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Speaker 2: What do you have to say about that? I think

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Speaker 2: that they just started filming, so for them to already

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Speaker 2: know it's the most iconic season ever. That's my two cents?

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Speaker 5: But what are yours?

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Speaker 6: I mean, Lisa stays delusional. That's I mean, she's so

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Speaker 6: I think they have been filming for literally just a

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Speaker 6: few days. But also for her to say, you know,

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Speaker 6: Homeland Security, whatever, was it interesting? Like what else was

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Speaker 6: going on?

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Speaker 3: Then Lisa like, well, it was the best ratings ever

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Speaker 3: last night.

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Speaker 6: That's what people were tuning in to. So that's weird

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Speaker 6: for her to say it's not interesting because that's what

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Speaker 6: everyone was watching.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's go back in time, So let's we'll start

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Speaker 2: from the beginning when Salt Lake City originally premiered. Did

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Speaker 2: you immediately want to find a way to get on

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Speaker 2: the show or what was like the history.

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Speaker 6: Of this, the history of me getting on the show?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but like, did you watch from the beginning.

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Speaker 2: Then did you seek after like what they've given us

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Speaker 2: the illusion of thinking, is that the second that it

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Speaker 2: started airing, you wanted to get on the show, and

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Speaker 2: then you got close to Jen because of that reason?

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Speaker 5: Is that fact or false? Or and if it is,

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Speaker 5: there's no judgment.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. No, I was friends with Jen before season one aired,

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Speaker 6: so I actually didn't even know she was on the

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Speaker 6: show when I met her. They were still not announced

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Speaker 6: at all. And in fact, I remember the first time

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Speaker 6: I found out where I was when I found out

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Speaker 6: she was on the show. We went to dinner in

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Speaker 6: Park City and she had one of the producers show

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Speaker 6: up and she was like, Oh, this is so and

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Speaker 6: so he's a producer on the show I'm on. And

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Speaker 6: I was like what. And that's how I found out

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Speaker 2: So yes, when they started Salt Lake, I feel like

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Speaker 2: we heard rumors about this online, but maybe it wasn't

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Speaker 2: going to be real High Housewives of Salt Lake City.

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Speaker 5: It was going to be another show. Is that true?

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Speaker 5: Or was it always salt Like? I don't know.

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Speaker 6: From what I've heard, everyone said it was a women

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Speaker 6: in business show.

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Speaker 3: I've never heard that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's how it was, Like, I mean, that's

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Speaker 6: how I was told for multiple people. It was pitched

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Speaker 6: to people about this is a show about women in business,

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Speaker 6: and then it ended up being it was actually Real Housewives. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I don't know they did that on purpose to Like.

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Speaker 3: So you said you met John before the show even

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Speaker 3: was in production. How long after working with her did

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Speaker 3: you think that?

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Speaker 6: Oh, No, the show was in production. It was kind

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Speaker 6: of aired or been announced yet.

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Speaker 5: Oh how did you meet her in the first place?

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Speaker 6: We met on Instagram because I donate swaddle blankets to

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Speaker 6: like all the hospitals here and I donated to the

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Speaker 6: you all the time, and Sharif works at the UK

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Speaker 6: and we just linked up through that connection.

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Speaker 2: And then how long, like had you been watching Bravo

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Speaker 2: shows prior or was this just news once Jen came

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Speaker 2: on you wanted to watch her and go from there?

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Speaker 6: I mean I always watched Bravo. I mean I always

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Speaker 6: watched Bravo shows. But yeah, I mean Jen wasn't the

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Speaker 6: reason I started watching Bravo shows. I definitely watched before Jen.

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Speaker 2: And then how long was she on the show before

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Speaker 2: you started working for her? Because knowing her and working

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Speaker 2: those are two different things.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 6: That's like, so she had an assistant, well, she had

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Speaker 6: several assistants, but her main assistant he was fired. And

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Speaker 6: then I started working for her, and like I want

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Speaker 6: to say, like September okay, and then I was done

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Speaker 6: working for her in but.

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Speaker 3: She didn't pay you. You said she didn't pay you, Okay,

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Speaker 3: this is okay. I keep playing that because that's confusing.

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Speaker 6: This is there's so many rumors about this shit. Like

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Speaker 6: there's rumors like Jen paid to keep her car from

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Speaker 6: getting repossessed. That's not the truth. Why I say she

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Speaker 6: never paid me is because for how much money I

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Speaker 6: actually put out, I never got that back. So when

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Speaker 6: she would give me like, oh, here's five hundred dollars,

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Speaker 6: I'm like, is this to like pay me back for

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Speaker 6: what I've already paid for? Like I paid for movers,

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Speaker 6: I paid for furniture movers for her.

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Speaker 2: Yes, another one, she paid you a weekly salary, but

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Speaker 2: she didn't reimburse you.

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, no no. I definitely did not get

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Speaker 6: a weekly salary. There wasn't never like a consistent form

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Speaker 6: of payment from her. It would be like here's five

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Speaker 6: gave me like two thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: So after that was going on, do you start thinking, like,

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Speaker 3: what's going on with this woman? I need to get

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Speaker 3: to the bottom of this.

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Speaker 6: So after I started actually working for her was when

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Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, that's when I started to see

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Speaker 6: things from a different perspective, because as her friend, I

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Speaker 6: was like, she's good for it. You know, she has

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Speaker 6: this big house, she works, Scharif work, they have all

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Speaker 6: these nice things.

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Speaker 3: Was her house rented?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I didn't know that at the time that like,

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Speaker 6: but did you I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I have to go back because I don't want

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Speaker 2: us to miss anything. Did you start working for her

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Speaker 2: during season one or season two?

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Speaker 6: They had already I guess filmed season one?

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Speaker 6: I was gone in between that period, so season one

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Speaker 6: was done. I was gone before season two even started filming.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever film any scenes during that first season?

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Speaker 2: And did you meet Stuart?

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Speaker 6: Yes? I met Stuart several times.

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Speaker 3: As where is Stuart now?

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Speaker 6: Stuart is actually the one that made sure I got

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Speaker 6: any kind of money was because of Stuart.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So while we're still on the topic of working

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Speaker 2: for gen Sorry, I need to know about the security camera.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, no, you have to break it down for

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Speaker 2: me because I, okay, my husband owns a security company,

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Speaker 2: so I understand how this situation works. But you set

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Speaker 2: it up for her, correct, So you had the log

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Speaker 2: and information, but then she never pad.

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Speaker 5: Did we all did?

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Speaker 6: The past code was one one one one Okay, Okay.

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Speaker 6: Everybody that was in that house that was assisting, everyone

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Speaker 6: that was in that house that was around working for

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Speaker 6: GEN around that time, had access to the cameras, knew

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Speaker 6: the passcode was one one one one, and yeah.

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Speaker 2: But then how did it start that you started watching

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Speaker 2: her cameras? Because that's what when we were watching the reunion,

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Speaker 2: that's the part that I was like, Okay, nine times

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Speaker 2: out of ten, I'm like, listen, I sided with Monica.

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Speaker 2: I gets at this, But that is one that I

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Speaker 2: was like, I don't understand it. I need more information

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Speaker 6: Okay, So what do you want to know?

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Speaker 2: I want to know when you were logging on to

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Speaker 2: watch her on the cameras.

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Speaker 5: Did she ever know you were doing that or was

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Speaker 5: that completely on your own?

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Speaker 3: She knew and how to.

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Speaker 6: Act actually cameras at all times, like she would have me,

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Speaker 6: like we watch it for deliveries, for packages. We would

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Speaker 6: watch it for like if the people were in there working,

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Speaker 6: we would talk to them like no, don't paint this wall, Yes,

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Speaker 6: paint that wall.

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Speaker 3: So there was cameras inside the house and outside of

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Speaker 3: the house.

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Speaker 5: Not in the bedroom though, correct.

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Speaker 6: No, it was just like the main or back doors

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Speaker 6: like the main.

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Speaker 2: And after you were not working with her anymore, was

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Speaker 2: there ever a point in time where you were like,

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Speaker 2: maybe I should stop watching this ship.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: Like you're okay, and so you were like bored and

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Speaker 3: you just would sit and watch or how did that okay?

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Speaker 6: So how it originally started was because some of the

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Speaker 6: big things that happened with her, like assaulting her staff,

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Speaker 6: were there and we wanted to go back and get

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Speaker 6: the footage off of the security camera. Oh, that's originally

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Speaker 6: how it started. Was like, oh my god, I can't

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Speaker 6: believe this happened. No one's gonna believe this. She just

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Speaker 6: lost her ship. She threw this ship out of us

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Speaker 6: Da da da da da. And then we're like, holy

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Speaker 6: fuck the cameras, let's get it off the footage from

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Speaker 6: the cameras. That's originally how it started.

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Speaker 5: And then how did it end?

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Speaker 5: Look, I'm not going.

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Speaker 6: To stay here and justify the situation. That's not.

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Speaker 6: But I will say, like, I hate this narrative that's

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Speaker 6: No, we were all in a situation that we had

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Speaker 2: Like I'm so similar to like win a boyfriend or

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Speaker 2: I've gone and looked at my husband's phone before.

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Speaker 5: Am I proud of it?

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Speaker 2: No, But I've gone in and been like, I'm just

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, when I was younger, I would

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Speaker 3: Well, at the end of the day, this woman is

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Speaker 6: Right, Like I said, I have no problem apologizing or

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Speaker 5: It wasn't like.

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Speaker 3: You were spying on a woman that is, you know,

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Speaker 6: Trying to get her acting out, being crazy and saying

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Speaker 2: To expose her for the person that she was to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, A big chunk of the recordings that are on

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Speaker 5: In her presence.

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Speaker 6: In her presence, yeah, because I know, you know, like

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Speaker 5: You know, why don't you get a snoop dogg on

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Speaker 6: We were all there, we heard that story from Jen.

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Speaker 3: And but but Lisa was the one that said, you

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Speaker 6: She does a lot of shit. So, and they've done

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Speaker 6: a great job. Let me just tell you, they've done

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Speaker 3: Now, speaking of Lisa, you mentioned that Lisa was running

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Speaker 6: So she Jen like forgot some stuff for reunion or whatever,

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Speaker 6: and so Jen was like making Lisa meet up with us,

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Speaker 6: me to give her all this shit. So she would

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Speaker 6: come and meet me at the airport. I would meet her.

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Speaker 6: doesn't necessarily mean we're like working, Like it's something you

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Speaker 3: Do right, like you were just it's more off clothes

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Speaker 6: I mean every single one of those women did errands

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Speaker 6: paid for an entire birthday party for Jen, Like are

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Speaker 3: Were so afraid intimidated about Jen? What was what was

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Speaker 6: I think she just knows a lot of their secrets

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Speaker 6: that they don't want out. And she's also they've done

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, you now see who her bestie is

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Speaker 3: in prison.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth holmesdal Yeah, another wonderful human being.

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Speaker 6: No, we all knew when we saw where she requested

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Speaker 6: you know, Elizabeth had already it was already out that

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Speaker 3: Like We're like, okay, you know, do you see her

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Speaker 6: No, I haven't seen or anything from I think.

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Speaker 3: If I was in mine, get the hell out of there, moving.

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Speaker 6: I honestly thought. But I think he still works for

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Speaker 6: the U, and.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh, that's nice for him, Good for him.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into the reality, Vontie of it all, because

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Speaker 2: because I've already seen some things that Brittany alleged, the

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Speaker 6: You know, I have been look Tamra. I actually am

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Speaker 6: So I have been very quiet. I haven't done or

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Speaker 5: Wait, does she know you?

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Speaker 6: No, I've never met her.

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Speaker 5: I never met her, never ever seen her around Salt Lake.

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Speaker 6: No, I have no idea who she is. I don't

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Speaker 3: It sounds like projecting because she has been busted opening

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Speaker 3: up a fake finst Does that what.

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Speaker 5: It's called for her boyfriend.

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Speaker 3: Boyfriend to make him look like a heart throb or something?

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I from what people are sending me. It's like several accounts,

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Speaker 6: like of fan accounts I don't know, like fanning her,

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Speaker 6: she's blaming it on me. And I'm like, wow, You're like.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but it's funny you guys, when you originally came

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Speaker 2: right or a my wrong? And then once you started it,

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Speaker 2: were you all in agreement this is to solely focus

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay. And then.

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Speaker 2: When the cease and desist happened to Vontice, do you

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Speaker 6: Then I don't remember the timelines of that.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's this is hard for me because I

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Speaker 6: I don't know if they knew before the season desist,

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Speaker 5: You just know that they knew before Bahamas.

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Speaker 3: Oh for sure?

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Speaker 6: You Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Monica, there's rumors out there that you auditioned for

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Speaker 3: season three but didn't get it because of Jen. That's

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Speaker 6: Real? Yes? I said that, I said.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, there's nothing wrong with it.

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Speaker 5: I just didn't know, so I.

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Speaker 6: This is what is frustrating is Lisa's like she was

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Speaker 6: going to dinner with Jen before. Yes, I did, because

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Speaker 6: So the whole time they were trying to get me on,

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Speaker 6: So then I legally couldn't film with Jen because then

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Speaker 2: Ye Did she know you were testifying against her when

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Speaker 6: I don't know if she was given a list yet

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Speaker 6: So I don't know. I mean they pretty much told

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Speaker 2: So going to Vauntee, if you were to if you

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Speaker 5: I have my own my.

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Speaker 3: Own we have her own suspicion. Well, we've already said it.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, who if you were to think, like,

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Speaker 5: Who already knew.

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Speaker 6: Blindsided? I think everyone was acting to a certain degree.

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Speaker 6: But I absolutely think that Heather for sure. I know

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Speaker 5: That phone call was BS. I mean, why why does Heather, in.

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Speaker 3: Your opinion, ride hard for Tanisha when Tanisha was a

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean, I've literally had so many

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Speaker 6: I'll be honest, because if you really look at their

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Speaker 6: be mad at me right now, Angie, it's freaking Gensh. No,

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Speaker 6: Angie can fuck off too. Genshaw is the only person

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Speaker 6: that deserves to be mad at me. The only person

444
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 6: that I actually wronged and really caused trouble for was

445
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 6: freaking Genshaw or used to get where I'm at or whatever,

446
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 6: like they're saying, like you used this spitch. You did

447
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 6: nothing for me. If anything, you tried to keep me

448
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 6: from sitting here this entire time. Genshaw. I would have

449
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 6: to say, girl, I'm sorry. I was going to testify

450
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 6: against you. Girl, I'm sorry I started a burner page

451
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 6: about you. Girl, I'm sorry I use you as a

452
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 6: stepping stone. Genshaw is the only one that deserves anything

453
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 6: from me. These other women like I all apologize some

454
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 6: of them for some stuff, but what I did as

455
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 6: a burner page does not warrant them hating me so much.

456
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 6: It makes no sense, especially when they could not stand

457
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 6: gen either.

458
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 5: Especially when I.

459
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: Saw Lisa Barlow filming season three of Beverly Hills, so

460
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: clearly she wanted to be on reality television show too.

461
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 6: She's been all over Bravo shows in the background.

462
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I didn't know that.

463
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 2: Ah, So why at the reunion because okay, these are

464
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: my two thoughts. I'm both separate, But at the reunion,

465
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: I wish at the beginning you would have just like

466
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 2: come in and take a little bit more accountability and

467
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: then just like thrown it all at us and given

468
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: us all the information because we love you and we

469
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 2: wanted to like people to move past it. But I

470
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: felt like there were certain things that you just wouldn't

471
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: give on, And I'm wondering, did you at some point,

472
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: like why when you came into the show that were

473
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: you so open about the affair and those type of

474
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 2: things but hid the reality vontife of it all.

475
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 6: Because it wasn't just me. I feel like if it

476
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 6: was just me, I would have gone in and been like, you, guys,

477
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 6: I did this, did da da da da? But I'm

478
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 6: not going to sit there and take responsibility for that

479
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 6: entire page because I was responsible for the entire page,

480
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 6: and I don't feel like that's fair. So when we

481
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 6: started this page, we were like to the grave, you guys,

482
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 6: like nobody rapped anybody out, blah blahlah blah blah blah.

483
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: Well, obviously, Tanisha didn't stick to that, right, Tanisha's the one.

484
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 6: She went above and beyond. Yeah, she went above and

485
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 6: beyond and she's still going above it and beyond. And

486
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 6: it's actually really sad. It's really sad because I'm like,

487
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 6: do you have nothing else? Like?

488
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 3: I don't know who now, because the reality Vontize is

489
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 3: still out there right, who's running it now?

490
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 6: I don't think anyone's been doing anything on that page, so.

491
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: It's just did you remove yourself from it?

492
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 7: What?

493
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 6: I actually I tried to hack in a few months ago.

494
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 6: I'm serious it because I didn't have the passwords.

495
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 3: Oh you don't have the password, Okay, I don't.

496
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 6: Have the password, and I was like trying all these things.

497
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 6: I couldn't even get in. I don't think anyone's posted

498
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 6: on that page in like years.

499
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: Do you think that Heather played along to con everybody

500
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: all season for this storyline so we'd stop talking about

501
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 2: the black Eye?

502
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,719
Speaker 6: I don't know how much it has to do with

503
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 6: the black Eye or not. I think she just didn't

504
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 6: want me there. But if you go back and you

505
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 6: watch the season clock, every time that woman looks at me,

506
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 6: every time she is looking at me, it is like

507
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 6: like she you can see it on her face, like

508
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 6: she just if you it's astounding, it's astounding, and like

509
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 6: she did not want me there from the jump.

510
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 5: And can you tell us about the casting process, because

511
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 5: during the reunion you said.

512
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 2: That you sent an email to casting that you wrote,

513
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: your show sucks and your ratings are shit and it's

514
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: going to get canceled. But then we saw the email

515
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: during the reunion and it wasn't like that.

516
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 5: So what was it? Like, let's get it and it's

517
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 5: okay if you a little fib okay.

518
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 6: I hate this honestly, you guys. This is the hardest

519
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 6: part of this shit is now no one believes anything

520
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 6: I say and so frustrating. So when they showed those

521
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 6: three little lines that one hundred percent was me. That

522
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 6: was my first ever email, and all I was doing

523
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 6: was asking for more information. There are hundreds of emails

524
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 6: and production and casting and whatever. I actually had to

525
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 6: submit an entire bio. Why do you think you're going

526
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 6: to be good for the show? What would you bring

527
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 6: that's different to this show? Da da da da da da.

528
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 6: That's where I said a lot of the shit I said,

529
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 6: I did not say it in my first ever email like, Hi,

530
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 6: wondering what I need to do to move forward? Like no,

531
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 6: I put it in a bunch this email where I

532
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 6: had to write an entire bio and they didn't show that,

533
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 6: And that's fine.

534
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 3: You also said that you mentioned the Burner account and

535
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 3: Andy said, no way.

536
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 6: Okay, So this also needs to be cleared up.

537
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 5: I love what you say.

538
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 6: Hold on, No, so casting was not the people I told.

539
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 6: I feel like this needs to be made clear because

540
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 6: I feel like it kind of got shuffled in there reunion.

541
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 6: I told production when they came to my house when

542
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 6: I was auditioning for season three that was not in

543
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 6: And if you hear me, I say when they came

544
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 6: to my house. When production came to my house, that's

545
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 6: when I told them. They asked me about it. They said,

546
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 6: do you know who you know? Vantie's this, who runs that?

547
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 6: Blah blahlah blah blah, And we had a discussion about it.

548
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 6: Fast forward to now I'm on season four. It's not

549
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 6: even the same people. So for production now.

550
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: The production is no Just so to clear up what

551
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: you're saying, the production is no longer the same people, Well, they.

552
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: Change the production. They change people all the time. Because

553
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: I know this last season some of our production career

554
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: went over to Salt Lake City, and even now, you

555
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: guys have Sean Laser who's been working on our show

556
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: for eighteen years, and we're like, you reach out to

557
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: me and goes, sorry, I took a job over, you know,

558
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: Like I'm like, what Trader.

559
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I had like four people in my home. Those

560
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 6: four people weren't even on the show at all season four.

561
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 6: So production now that they're like, she never told us,

562
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 6: that's true. I didn't ever tell them. I told the

563
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 6: other people from season three, and it wasn't casting. It

564
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 6: was when they came to my home and we had

565
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 6: like an in home interview.

566
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

567
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: But even so, like casting, it's a third party company.

568
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: It's not anything to do with production or with Bravo

569
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: or with the network. It is an outside company that

570
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: goes out and tries to find talent for the show.

571
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: So even if you did say that to them, chances

572
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: are they probably would not go back and repeat it,

573
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: or they would I mean.

574
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 6: I never told them, so yeah, she's yeah.

575
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: I think clearing it up that it was, you know,

576
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: people in the production but not in casting.

577
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 5: I think that's well.

578
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 6: And people that are no longer even in the production anymore,

579
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. By the time I filmed,

580
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 6: they were gone.

581
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: Do you think that when Heather said REI Crow timeline screenshots,

582
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: do you think it was written on her hand and

583
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: prepared or do you think that was an authentic iconic line.

584
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 6: I don't think anything about Heather's authentic, But I think

585
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 6: that that entire monologue was months in the making. That's

586
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 6: that's what I think.

587
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: And if you were to pick a woman from the

588
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: cat it can't be married because Mary wasn't on the trip.

589
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: But if there was one woman in Bermuda that you

590
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: would trust the most at this point, like forget what

591
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: happened at the reunion, but just in general your time

592
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: spent together, who would it be? And then who would

593
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: be the person that you said this is? This is

594
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: a hard note for me.

595
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I actually I really do care about Whitney and Meredith.

596
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 6: I know that they've you know, said how they feel

597
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 6: and that's fine and whatever, But I have nothing bad

598
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,239
Speaker 6: to say about them at all. I think they were

599
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 6: very kind to me. They were very they were very

600
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 6: good to me during filming. I think, Yeah, I think

601
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 6: we all know I'm I'm going with Heather on this.

602
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 6: I think how she teamed up with my best friend

603
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 6: to completely obliterate my life is absolutely disgusting.

604
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: And your best friend being my ex best friend. Yeah,

605
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: I didn't know you guys were best friends. I didn't

606
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: know that girl.

607
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Hold on, is it true there's a restraining order?

608
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: Or is that just Tanisiha making stuff up?

609
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 6: There is not a restraining order. That is insane. Where

610
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 6: did you hear that? Because I haven't even heard that.

611
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 5: I have a worldwide web. Oh god, Oh.

612
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 6: My gosh, there's a lot of things.

613
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: Tanisha filed a police report accusing you of stalking.

614
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 6: Okay, well that's fine. A restraining order and I'm definitely

615
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 6: not stalking her, and police reports, I mean whatever. I

616
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 6: could call the police right now and make a report

617
00:31:59,320 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 6: right well.

618
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things going on in the world

619
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: Wide Web, and one of them is a rumor saying

620
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: that you Monica have been cast for doing the show

621
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 3: House of Villains.

622
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 6: I haven't heard that rumor.

623
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 5: Oh my god, so that's not true.

624
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: I haven't wait.

625
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 5: I'm happy to see that. Where did you want that?

626
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: We got all excited from the Worldwide Web on the

627
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: www I have.

628
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 6: I have seen everyone promoting me for it, like how

629
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 6: Civilains you have to get Monica Traders, you have to

630
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 6: get Monica, Like I have seen all of that, but

631
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 6: I have not seen that you have to send that

632
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 6: to me.

633
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, we would love for that to happen.

634
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: Getting back getting back to Meredith, Yes, I feel like

635
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: there was a point at the reunion where you kind

636
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: of look at Meredith to back you up.

637
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 5: When she says things like you.

638
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: Should sue Andree for falling down the stairs, and she's

639
00:32:54,040 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: just kind of like yeah at that point, Like I

640
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 2: wish she would have been like, hey, you know, I

641
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: was talking shit, you know, like like people always say

642
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: things like I such a tamer all the time, like

643
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: we are so lucky nobody's released our text messages to

644
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: one another, like right, like to.

645
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 6: Release my shit of me venting on a random Tuesday

646
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 6: is so fucking unnecessary.

647
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 3: It is. It is, And I think any you could

648
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: do that to anybody in the world. Didn't you had you.

649
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 6: Guys need to I'm going to answer this, but at

650
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 6: that point in time in my life, I had no

651
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 6: one else. Tanisha was my best friend. We were together

652
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 6: all the time, holidays, every Sunday family dinner. Her kid

653
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 6: always spent the night at my house. My kids were

654
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 6: always at her house, like we were best friends. She

655
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 6: was like my spouse.

656
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 5: What happened to stop?

657
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: What is her problem?

658
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 5: That's just gonna say.

659
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: Does she want to be on the show? Does she

660
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: want to be famous? Did she tell us that you

661
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: were on the show? What went wrong?

662
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 6: I have no idea, honestly, And she hasn't really answered that.

663
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 6: She's been asked it a lot. The only thing that

664
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 6: I have heard is that she said I was trying

665
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 6: to get her fired, or that I was coming for

666
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 6: her check. I was never trying to get.

667
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 5: Check from who? Who? Heather?

668
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 6: Check from Bravo? Yeah, because she did you know? She

669
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 6: worked on set. That's the only thing I've heard. And

670
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 6: she never missed a check. She was never fired, She

671
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,959
Speaker 6: never nothing ever happened. So I don't even know why.

672
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 6: I have no idea.

673
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: But did you know things were going south in your

674
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: friendship before all of this started happening? So what that's

675
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 2: my question? What was happening inside of your friendship that

676
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 2: like made her lose it? Were you flirting with her

677
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: guy or something I saw? Yeah, let's just give it

678
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: to us so we don't have to speculate.

679
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 6: It's so fucking stupid, all right, So wow, during filming,

680
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 6: she okay, we went to the hospital to do like

681
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 6: this feed the family service thing where we got together

682
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 6: with a bunch of people and we fed all the

683
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 6: families that were there with their sick children at primary Children's.

684
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 5: Okay.

685
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 6: While we were there, we met these two guys and

686
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 6: she really hit it off with one of them, and

687
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 6: she kind of wanted to pursue that they had set

688
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 6: up a time to get together and she wanted me

689
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 6: to go with her. I told her, I will go

690
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 6: with you, girl. I will be your wing girl. And

691
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 6: it was one night after filming. I was exhausted. It

692
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 6: was like nine o'clock at night, and I was like,

693
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 6: I cannot go.

694
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 5: She's like, you promise me, you have to come. Da

695
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 5: da da da da.

696
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 6: You told me you'd be there. I'm like, oh, fine,

697
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 6: I will rally and I will go. I literally went

698
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 6: in pajamas and flip flops and like my hair and

699
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 6: a clip. Right, I did not care. We went ax, throwing,

700
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 6: bowling whatever. The guy ended up asking me out that

701
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 6: night or like got your phone number? No, yeah, and

702
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 6: he messaged me. We all had each other's number after

703
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 6: the little hospital event thing. Okay, so he messaged me asking,

704
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 6: you know, to pursue whatever. I literally messaged him back

705
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 6: and said, my friend is interested in you. I respect

706
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 6: her and her feelings. I'm not going to do that. Sorry.

707
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 5: That was it.

708
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: Did Tanisha ever go out with this guy? Or she

709
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: just had hot just that.

710
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 6: One time, just that one time, but she felt I

711
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 6: didn't tell her this. I did not tell her that

712
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 6: he had messaged me asking me out, you.

713
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 5: Need an yell at her, your dumb, stupid bitch. Yeah, no,

714
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 5: let's talk about your need.

715
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 6: The text messages with this guy where he even said,

716
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 6: you know, like, I respect that Tenish is just not

717
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 6: my type. I don't see anything with her, but I

718
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 6: see that with you. And I was like, I'm sorry,

719
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 6: it's not gonna happen.

720
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 3: You don't need to release any more text messages. I

721
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: do not do that now.

722
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 5: Sometime, I know, but sometimes you go a little too low.

723
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 3: For our tea.

724
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 5: And Tam knows something about that.

725
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: I know a little something about that too, because I've

726
00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: done it too.

727
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 6: We're all we're all guilty of ship. Yes, I feel

728
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 6: like i'm definitely being you know, massacred here for ship.

729
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 6: We've all done.

730
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm not judging. I'm not judging you. I've been

731
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: throwing napkins. I've been calling names for years now.

732
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 5: But you do go a little bit too low. Talk

733
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 5: about agent age, talking about when name name name them girl?

734
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: When when well, maybe were the looks maybe, Lisa, I

735
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 3: think you said she took like a leather handbag.

736
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 6: I think.

737
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 5: Did I just make that up?

738
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: Old leather bitch or something like that? Okay, can we

739
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 3: regret any of those? Would you like to take any

740
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 3: of those back? No, Jesus Monica.

741
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 5: You don't.

742
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: We're handing it to you on a platter to go.

743
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: Maybe I shouldn't go for people's looks.

744
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 6: I'll apologize for I apologize for the security cameras. I

745
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 6: apologize for age shaming. I mean, am I is she

746
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 6: gonna apologize to me for calling me a Pillsbury dough girl?

747
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: Like?

748
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 6: Okay?

749
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: Like I got called the michelin man once?

750
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

751
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 5: Like, no, do you think she's gonna go?

752
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you don't. You can't.

753
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 6: Two wrongs.

754
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 3: Don't make a ride, they say, ready to hang up

755
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: on both of mine?

756
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 5: All right, you don't have to apologize for it. But look, I.

757
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 6: When I apologize, I mean it. And that's why on

758
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 6: that reunion stage, I did not apologize. I was not

759
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 6: in a place to apologize to them after getting completely

760
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 6: beat up for thirteen hours, and all they wanted was

761
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 6: an apology. That's bullshit, because there were a few times

762
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 6: where I did start to apologize and they completely shut

763
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 6: me down. And like Andy Cohen said, on that stage,

764
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 6: is there anything Monica could have set And they were

765
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 6: like no, no, and.

766
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 3: He would like, they've had their mindset on you.

767
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 6: The on walked onto that stage on my knees kissing

768
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 6: their ass, and it would have had the same results.

769
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 6: It would not have mattered. So you know that. I mean,

770
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 6: there was no need to apologize because I wasn't being

771
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 6: heard anyway.

772
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 2: I feel like halfway through their season, they're gonna realize, shit,

773
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: they need you, you know what, I need this, They

774
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 2: need you. But I have to and then I'm gonna

775
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: stop grilling you, and then I'm gonna allow it be

776
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: a little bit more fun.

777
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 5: But I need to clear up some of these questions.

778
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: Okay, why did you say you never went into Meredith store?

779
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 5: And then they showed a picture of you, and I pulled.

780
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 6: Up to this scene. Production came up to me and said, okay,

781
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 6: you know you're going to walk in. They're and be like,

782
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 6: oh my god, I've never been here before. This is

783
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 6: so beautiful. I'm like, wow, I have been here before.

784
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 6: I've been here with Jen, And they're like, well, that's

785
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 6: not how we're running it. We're running it like it's

786
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 6: your first time here. I fucking went with that and said,

787
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 6: oh my god, So you.

788
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,959
Speaker 3: Meant first time on camera? Yeah, it was the first

789
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 3: time on camera too.

790
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 6: I mean no, the first time was on.

791
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 5: A security camp.

792
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 6: But is security check that Those are two separate things

793
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 6: that to do with somebody else. I just happened to

794
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 6: be there. And also, nobody stole a damn clutch.

795
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 5: Oh, I wasn't even going to bring up the stealing

796
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 5: of a clutch. I was gonna let that.

797
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 6: Because I know that people are tagging it together. No

798
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 6: one stole a clutch, nobody stole shit. But yes, I

799
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 6: was on the security footage or whatever because I was

800
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 6: with Gen and the other.

801
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're just basically saying this is my first time,

802
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: like you're on camera the first time restaurant.

803
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: And they'll say, like, say, how beautiful it is when

804
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: you walk in? Yeah, like that's what she did. Yeah, okay.

805
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 6: I should have just been like, no, I'm not doing that.

806
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 6: I have been here before. I'm going to run it.

807
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 6: How I would you know, I'm just going to be

808
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 6: like I was here before with Jen. I should have

809
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 6: just said that instead of being like, oh my, like

810
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 6: that's my dad, that's my bad.

811
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's not even a bad bad. The Burn Book,

812
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: where is it?

813
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 6: It's in my house?

814
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 5: You send it to us?

815
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: No, I think it needs to be anything needs to

816
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: be in the clubhouse.

817
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 6: I am so mad about that Burn Book. You guys.

818
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 6: It did not get the tension that it deserved, and

819
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 6: it looked like everyone's like that shit flopped. I'm like,

820
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 6: it's so good if we.

821
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: Didn't have been good, but it needed to stay consistent

822
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: with one theme you I did not get.

823
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 6: Do you guys know that every single time I would

824
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 6: start talking, it was like like we were all if

825
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 6: you guys were there, it was so it was a mess.

826
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 6: It felt very chaotic. It was like we didn't even

827
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 6: do you guys notice we didn't even talk about half

828
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 6: the shit that actually happened on the show. We didn't

829
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 6: talk about vagina Gate. We didn't talk about how they're

830
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 6: pushing Whitney in a freakin' bar. We didn't talk about

831
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 6: like so much shit that happened that wasn't even.

832
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 5: What are you saying?

833
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: Because the entire reunion was about you, Monica say.

834
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 2: That, Well, this is your moment to validate the burn books,

835
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: So tell us what we missed.

836
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 6: You missed so much stuff because in it was so

837
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 6: many receipts and proof and showing that people had full

838
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 6: knowledge of who was behind this page from the very beginning,

839
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 6: how much they were fans of this page. And so

840
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 6: to spin it like you're disgusting, you're a stalker, you

841
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 6: talked shit on our friend is it's actually really sad,

842
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 6: Like it's really fucking sad because they hated her just

843
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 6: as much as we did. And it's crazy to villainize

844
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 6: me for having feelings that you also have, like you

845
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 6: just a gen gone just as much as we did.

846
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 6: So stop messages in there from people saying I'm going

847
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 6: to throw a celebration party when she's in jail, but

848
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 6: you're do you care to.

849
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 5: Clarify which person you're talking about?

850
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 6: No, it was more than one person.

851
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: Can I give you Can I give you props about something?

852
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 6: What?

853
00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 3: No, this is we were hearing about at the reunion.

854
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 3: Heather lied about the black Eye. I still think it

855
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 3: is a lie. There was an internal investigation that could

856
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: be detrimental to someone in production. They could have gotten fired.

857
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 3: You sat there and you didn't say a word. This

858
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 3: was your time to say something, and you just you.

859
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I give you props for that because

860
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: I'd like you to say something now.

861
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 6: Well, thank you, Tamra.

862
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: No, honestly, I mean it showed your character right there.

863
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: You're like, yeah, you know, yeah, thank you.

864
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 6: I am not going to take away any kind of

865
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 6: trauma or how someone responds when they have to deal

866
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 6: with Jen. I know that to be very real and

867
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 6: very true, and unless you experience it, I really don't

868
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 6: even think you understand. And I am not going to

869
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 6: take that away from Heather. I'm also not going to

870
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 6: take away any kind of physical abuse from anybody, because

871
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 6: I have experienced it myself and I would never ever

872
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 6: do that. I I feel like you, like, there's probably

873
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 6: a lot of things in relation to the black Eye

874
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 6: story that don't make sense. But I Am not going

875
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 6: to sit there and take that away from her.

876
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 3: Do you think Jen gave her the black eye? Is

877
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 3: it a possibility, It's a possibility.

878
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 6: Sure, it's a possibility. I I will tell you there

879
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 6: wasn't a doubt in my mind that she did it

880
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 6: when this all first surfaced. But after dealing with h

881
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 6: Ever personally and seeing what she's done to me and

882
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 6: the lies that have been told about me, I'm like,

883
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 6: is she lying on gen Jen?

884
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: Well, you know I called it before the black eye

885
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 3: even was an ex boast. I noticed filming dinners when

886
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: you guys were on vacation or when she was on

887
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: vacation last year, there was a starting of a black eye.

888
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: There was red marks, there was a like an early

889
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: bruise on her eye. She put sunglasses on, put them on,

890
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: take them off, put them on during dinner. I thought

891
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: it was really strange.

892
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 6: I never think that. I never until people started I did.

893
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: And I know also know like when you get hit

894
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: in the eye like that, it doesn't turn black that quick.

895
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: It just doesn't turn black in a couple of hours.

896
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 6: I figured, oh, Jen could have done that because Jen

897
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 6: wears these huge, gaudy rings and I'm like, she got

898
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 6: not with one of those rings, Like, but I.

899
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: Think that for it to be that black, it would

900
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 3: have busted open the skin. I would think.

901
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 6: I didn't even think about that either, to be honest,

902
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 6: I just I feel like you said, she you know,

903
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 6: there was there was a full investigation, there were lawyers involved.

904
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 6: I mean, this was like a big deal.

905
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: This was a big deal.

906
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 6: She was lying to officers, lawyers, investigators, the network, Andy Cohen, production,

907
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 6: the castmates, you know. And I was just like, girl,

908
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 6: I get it if that's what happened, because do you

909
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 6: think that I dated that. If it is.

910
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 3: As bad or worse than you having a burner account.

911
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 6: I personally feel like that is worse fine.

912
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: The fact to blame production, to say that it could

913
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: have been production, or it could have been this, or

914
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: to even string everybody along and make it a game.

915
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 6: Well, and then she sit there and laughed like she

916
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 6: was like that was a joke. And I'm like, but

917
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 6: also if I were to say that, like, oh that

918
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 6: was a joke, you know, they would have been like

919
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 6: you're sick, You're sick. You know. So I mean, I

920
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 6: don't I don't get it. I really don't.

921
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: I know this is tough. I'm just trying to wrap

922
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 3: my brain around everything. I mean, she got like good

923
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 3: terms with Heather, but I have a feeling she's gonna

924
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 3: unfollow us really quickly. I don't think she followed me again,

925
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 3: very sensitive. It's not that I'm trying to blame anything

926
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: on her. I'm just trying to understand this.

927
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 6: No, and I'm not either. I mean, even considering everything

928
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 6: I've been through with her, I can still sit here

929
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:23,479
Speaker 6: and say, Okay, you did whatever because I did ship

930
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 6: that I shouldn't have done, wouldn't have done if not

931
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 6: put in a crazy situation, you know.

932
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: So I don't know, let's move on from Heather and

933
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 3: let's move on to your mom. Have you guys talked

934
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 3: at all or you know, it just seems like it's

935
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 3: always forever going to be kind of a struggle between

936
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: the two of you. But are you in better terms

937
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 3: or is it somebody You're just it's time to cut ties?

938
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 6: You know, I'm gonna try. This is actually hard for

939
00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 6: me because, yeah, having everyone say that that was fake

940
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 6: has been one of the hardest things because that shit

941
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 6: is so real for me and so much worse in

942
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 6: real life. And you know, I know people are like

943
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 6: they both deserve an Emmy for you know act, It's like,

944
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 6: are you insane? Like this is my life and my

945
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 6: kid's life. Yeah, And that was all so awful, and

946
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 6: to me it felt so normal for so long that

947
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 6: it took me seeing it on fucking television to be like,

948
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 6: I cannot do this anymore. The last time I talked

949
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 6: to my mom, she looked at me and said, you

950
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 6: no longer have a mother and I no longer have

951
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 6: a daughter.

952
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 3: She was very brutal with her words, like I was shocked.

953
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: Why do you think she's still posting on Twitter acts

954
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: or whatever is that for?

955
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 5: I don't for more attention or to write her name.

956
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 5: I like, do your kids?

957
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 6: I'll be honest, Even after everything that went down and filming,

958
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 6: I am so like programmed to just forgive her and

959
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 6: move on that I still would have, But after seeing

960
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,479
Speaker 6: how she's acted on Twitter too, I'm like, we are done.

961
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 5: We are Does she try to reach out to you now?

962
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 6: There is zero communication right now?

963
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 3: What about your kids? Does she reach out to your kids?

964
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 6: No?

965
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 5: Not that I know of.

966
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 6: I mean I would never ask, you know, I haven't

967
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 6: any And so it's up to her at this point.

968
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 6: But like my other three.

969
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 3: No, it's sad. I hate to see families like that.

970
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 3: I mean, I've had my own issues as well, but

971
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 3: it's it's tough, it's difficult.

972
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 2: I don't think at any point that seemed on your

973
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: part like you were acting or No.

974
00:49:54,640 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 6: I was absolutely devastated at that Easter dinner. I I felt

975
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 6: so alone and my mom was teaming up with the

976
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 6: other women and I just I mean, I exploded, that

977
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 6: was just.

978
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 3: Getting our camera time.

979
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

980
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 2: Before you guys started filming, had you guys tried to

981
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: reconcile your relationship at all?

982
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 6: You were in a good place, to be honest, And

983
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 6: this is the thing with my relationship with my mom

984
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 6: is it's up down, up, down, up down. When we

985
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 6: started filming, we were in an up and I told production,

986
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 6: because I know the pattern of our relationship, you guys

987
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 6: are probably going to see some stuff like we're probably

988
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 6: going to fight. I had no idea it was it

989
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 6: was going to be what it ended up being, which

990
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 6: ultimately was the complete demise of our relationship or any

991
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 6: future that there is with us. When it's done, I'm done,

992
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 6: Like I'm done.

993
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 5: Do you think.

994
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: Like when you're looking back at the past season, is

995
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 2: there a part of you that's like, Okay, yeah this

996
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: was shitty, this was shit, but like this this was

997
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 2: a positive of doing the show, of this happening, or

998
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: I'm glad I did it because of this, like or

999
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: do you just kind of like have sad like I mean,

1000
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: I even know when I got booted, I was like, God,

1001
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: am I not enough?

1002
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 5: Am I not this?

1003
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: You know, like I really beat myself up, like I

1004
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 2: wasn't good enough? But I also have like, oh wow,

1005
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: I made some amazing friends. I had so much fun,

1006
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 2: you know, like a wunch places I would never would

1007
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: have gone, like do you have that?

1008
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 5: On both sides, I had.

1009
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 6: A wonderful experience. Fill me, Okay, this is the thing.

1010
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 6: Raba was amazing. Production was great. You guys haven't been incredible. Camera.

1011
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 6: You were the first ever housewife to reach out to

1012
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 6: me to message mellow me.

1013
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 2: No.

1014
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 6: It makes me emotional because I was alone, you guys.

1015
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 6: I was completely alone in this whole journey. But I

1016
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 6: had an incredible time up until the very end, and

1017
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 6: when it got bad, it was so bad. So yes,

1018
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 6: I had wonderful time, wonderful experiences. It was just literally

1019
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 6: finale and at that have been absolutely insane.

1020
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 5: Do you still talk to Andy who?

1021
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 6: Andy Cohen?

1022
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1023
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 6: Well I had, I had. I'm like Waity my makeup artist. Yeah,

1024
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 6: I talked to him all the time. No, I don't

1025
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 6: talk to Andy Cohen, but he was always so great.

1026
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 6: He was always so nice.

1027
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 3: How did you actually find out that you were not returning?

1028
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 3: Who made that phone call?

1029
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 6: Well? Aside from knowing, yeah, well we talked.

1030
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 3: We talked and you said, I don't think it's looking

1031
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 3: good girls, I told you.

1032
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 5: I was like, I.

1033
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: Know you.

1034
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 6: I knew because I had been told by multiple people

1035
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 6: that the plan was to get me off the show,

1036
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 6: and you know, it happened. I knew it was coming.

1037
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: So so that being said, I know we're running out

1038
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: of time, But if you were asked to come back,

1039
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 2: would you say yes?

1040
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 6: I think it's ridiculous to sit here and be like, no,

1041
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 6: I would not go back, because obviously I would. I

1042
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 6: kind of feel like anyone that's like, no, I'm not

1043
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 6: going back is lying Yeah. I think. I mean, I

1044
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 6: don't think I could go back in this, like I

1045
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 6: would have to be friends with someone like I don't

1046
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 6: think I could go back in this situation. I mean

1047
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 6: I would, We all know I would.

1048
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 3: But would you go on the show and film a

1049
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 3: lunch with Mary? Do you think like that could be

1050
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 3: your stepping stone back into the show.

1051
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 6: I love Mary, and I know there's so many different

1052
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 6: opinions and whatever. I'm Mary, but I can only go

1053
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 6: based off how someone treats me. And she has been

1054
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 6: so kind to me, And yeah, I would film with Mary.

1055
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 6: But I just I know that the women and they

1056
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 6: tried to do this at Bravo Kan too.

1057
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 7: I know that they are, you know, united, and I

1058
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 7: remember there was some shit to be had because as

1059
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 7: Whitney talked with you, I think I was there at

1060
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 7: the moment that happened.

1061
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: We were in the we were in the like lunch room. Yeah, Whitney,

1062
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if she came over and talked to

1063
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 3: you or what was said. I can't remember, but went

1064
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 3: Heather was like the boss.

1065
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 6: I saw that and then yep, yeah, and there was

1066
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 6: other ship. There was so much shit that happened at

1067
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 6: Bravo Cot.

1068
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 3: We cried when she found out. I remember it all.

1069
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 6: I mean, it's a mess, it's a mess, but yeah,

1070
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 6: they actually, you know, they mean, this is I don't

1071
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 6: know what to do because I didn't even think that

1072
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 6: this was possible. I didn't think that you could just

1073
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 6: all come together and ice someone out. But I didn't.

1074
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 3: I didn't either, And it's never I don't know that

1075
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 3: it's happened on my cast. Like there's a lot of

1076
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 3: people I wanted off. I've been accused by so many

1077
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 3: people of getting somebody fired or this person. It doesn't

1078
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 3: they don't call me and say.

1079
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 5: Hey, Tara, what do you want who would you like fied?

1080
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 3: In fact, if I say I want them fired, the

1081
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 3: raise for them to be there, they get a raise. Yeah.

1082
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 3: So I just keep my mouth shut on that for

1083
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 3: the most part. I mean yeah, But.

1084
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: On a positive note, I mean, I think you can

1085
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 2: tell by doing we can tell by doing this interview,

1086
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: like you're being raw, you're sharing your emotions. It's a good,

1087
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: the bad, and the ugly, just like all of us.

1088
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 2: We all have those things like that we regret or

1089
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 2: that we're not ashamed of or that we're proud of.

1090
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: Where do you if you could if you could say,

1091
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 2: like this is what I would like next, Like where

1092
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: does where does that take you? Like if you could

1093
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,479
Speaker 2: manifest it right now? What do you want for your life?

1094
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: What do you want for yourself?

1095
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, that's such a loaded question. I want

1096
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 6: love and I want my daughters to see an actual

1097
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 6: loving relationship an example of that, because they haven't. I

1098
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Speaker 6: would love to, obviously go on Traders same I'm manifesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, manifest together.

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Speaker 6: Oh that would be so amazing. Oh my gosh. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean, I just want to be in place. This

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Speaker 6: is why I did the show in the first place.

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Speaker 6: I just want to be able to provide for my

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Speaker 6: children comfortably where I do not have to rely on

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Speaker 6: anyone else. And if I want to, you know, take

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Speaker 6: them somewhere, I can take them somewhere, if you know.

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Speaker 6: I just I don't want to stress about having to

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Speaker 6: provide for my girls.

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Speaker 3: And do you get I don't know if there's ever

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Speaker 3: touchdown on but do you get help from their father?

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Speaker 3: Does he see them? Does he help support them? Are

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Speaker 3: you just doing it all on your own?

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Speaker 6: Okay? I will say Mike is an amazing dad, Like

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Speaker 6: I have a lot to say about that man, But

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Speaker 6: when it comes to being a father, he makes sure

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Speaker 6: they are taken care of and I will never take

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Speaker 6: that away from him. He he is. I know I

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Speaker 6: needed something, I could call him and he would be

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Speaker 6: there for them. That's you know, my oldest that wasn't

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Speaker 6: the case, and so I'm very grateful for him. He

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Speaker 6: is a very very stable father.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh good, that's awesome. That makes me happy.

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Speaker 2: Well, we want to manifest good things for you. We

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Speaker 2: love chatting with you every single time. We appreciate you

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Speaker 2: being honest and like being in the hot seat and

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Speaker 2: just taking it and like, yeah we are twats, so

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Speaker 2: we just keep it going.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm great, one's than the other.

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Speaker 5: Oh please, I'm just fatting on the podcast. Your twa

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Speaker 5: all twater all all other.

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Speaker 6: Water you sure I'll buy that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for sitting in the twat seat today.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you for joining and being in the

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Speaker 5: twat seat.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 5: So we're gonna.

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Speaker 3: Manifest a nice guy and a snowflake for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and a nice guy, a snowflake and a little

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Speaker 2: bit of traders. We're a little bit of take it happened.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks Monica.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Monica so much. Bye bye.