Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Civic Sipheri Army host rams
Speaker 1: Is Jah, and we have a special show for you today.
Speaker 1: If you've been paying attention to our show or paying
Speaker 1: attention to the media, our humble show has had some
Speaker 1: national and international light shone upon it, and obviously there's
Speaker 1: a lot of stories in the media that you can
Speaker 1: check out Feel Free, and obviously we need to talk
Speaker 1: about that on this show exactly what it means.
Speaker 2: And you know, our future.
Speaker 1: As a show, because there's a lot more momentum in
Speaker 1: this space for us right now, and we're really excited
Speaker 1: about that. We're really excited about all the changes that
Speaker 1: we can help make in this country, the conversations that
Speaker 1: we can start and help people have in their homes,
Speaker 1: et cetera. But that is still something that we have
Speaker 1: to wait on, those conversations that we would love to
Speaker 1: have with you. So in the meantime, there's a couple
Speaker 1: of things that we wanted to share with you, not
Speaker 1: the least of which is sort of a conversation that
Speaker 1: started this whole thing. You and I were fortunate enough
Speaker 1: to go to La and sit down with our mentor
Speaker 1: Big Boy, a legendary broadcaster in the hip hop space
Speaker 1: if you're not familiar, and.
Speaker 2: He gave us a great interview after and.
Speaker 1: So i'd love to share that with you today just
Speaker 1: to kind of bring you up to speed if you
Speaker 1: haven't been paying attention to the media and if you
Speaker 1: have been, to kind of give you a bit of
Speaker 1: an origin story of the show and some of the
Speaker 1: current things that are happening in this space. And also
Speaker 1: we were fortunate enough to speak with one Isaac Hayes,
Speaker 1: the third you know, owner a fan base, and so
Speaker 1: the second half of the show, we're going to shine
Speaker 1: some light on black business, supporting black business, kind of
Speaker 1: black people's.
Speaker 3: Influence over the culture, the popular culture, and how social
Speaker 3: media affects our ability to communicate, our ability to make money,
Speaker 3: some areas that require improvement.
Speaker 2: Et cetera. So we'd love for you to stick around
Speaker 2: for most of those conversations.
Speaker 1: You feel like you're both very important, And of course
Speaker 1: we are going to be back with more citys Cipher
Speaker 1: very soon, but this is the space that we're in
Speaker 1: right now. And yeah, yeah, we hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 1: So I'll be back after we talked to a big boy,
Speaker 1: So enjoy.
Speaker 2: Big Boys neighborhood. Beautiful then the neighborhood ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4: Sometimes, Man, you come across some things, you come across
Speaker 4: some beautiful people. And for those that do know, then
Speaker 4: you know. And for those that don't, I would love
Speaker 4: to make this introduction as well. Now, first off, Ramses,
Speaker 4: I've met you years ago. You didn't need anything from me.
Speaker 4: I didn't need anything from you. You were just a
Speaker 4: solid brother that I met years ago, man. And I
Speaker 4: love the way that you know characters, what's being said
Speaker 4: about you when you're not in the room, and people
Speaker 4: speak so well about your character. So now that I'll
Speaker 4: see you moving forward, and I'll see you never stop
Speaker 4: your hustle, never stop your grind. You got fifty thousand
Speaker 4: things that you're doing in fort ninety nine of them
Speaker 4: nine hundred nine and nine you're doing very well. I
Speaker 4: don't know what that one is, but welcome to the neighborhood, Rams,
Speaker 4: I appreciate it all right. And this ISQ War and
Speaker 4: together we are Cipher. What is Civic Cipher?
Speaker 1: Civic Cipher is a radio show and a podcast that
Speaker 1: was born out of the protests of twenty twenty. Basically,
Speaker 1: what happened was you know, we're both DJs. We both
Speaker 1: were working radio men Q where we were at our
Speaker 1: old radio station in Phoenix, Arizona. We you know, in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, we were out protesting. We felt like the
Speaker 1: leadership on the streets really deserved more than just bullhorns,
Speaker 1: and in order to challenge the narrative of what was
Speaker 1: being sort of chronicled on television stations and other media
Speaker 1: outlets to get let folks say their piece in terms
Speaker 1: of explaining defund the police means or why people are
Speaker 1: upset about Breonna Taylor or you know these sorts of things.
Speaker 1: We felt like, okay, well, we work in media, we
Speaker 1: work in hip hop media. This is you know, black
Speaker 1: culture being consumed. You know, in a city where it's
Speaker 1: black and brown mostly consuming this culture, we need to
Speaker 1: be able to say our piece as well. And basically
Speaker 1: we went to our station program director and asked to
Speaker 1: set aside thirty minutes per week in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night where there's no money involved, and just let
Speaker 1: the leadership on the streets.
Speaker 2: Why did you feel like that was important to you guys?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, there was no voice, there was just
Speaker 1: people on the street. It was a huge crowds, right,
Speaker 1: but no way to reach the city people that weren't
Speaker 1: able to come out people and you know, bullhorns only
Speaker 1: go so far.
Speaker 2: So some people weren't getting the message.
Speaker 1: So it was up to us to try to make
Speaker 1: that different and make that space.
Speaker 4: So in such a real time bro at twenty twenty,
Speaker 4: it looked like things were just crazy. You know, we
Speaker 4: had a pandemic, something that we've never seen before. We're
Speaker 4: watching people die in front of us, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying on TV repeatedly watching footage. And so when
Speaker 4: you do, like some people also qward where some people
Speaker 4: say you know what, man, I'll do what I do
Speaker 4: on the mic, sometimes they don't go a little further,
Speaker 4: or they just wait for the next leader.
Speaker 2: Like you can have a plan, you can.
Speaker 4: Have you can feel like you're like, man, this is
Speaker 4: really horrible, But then we wait for the next person.
Speaker 2: You guys didn't wait, do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you feel like you need permission, right, you need
Speaker 5: somebody to tell you it's okay to be dynamic or
Speaker 5: to step out in front of it. And like you said,
Speaker 5: when you got the bullhorn on the street, a few
Speaker 5: hundred people can hear you, but you turn on the
Speaker 5: news and they're calling protesters looters and right right, the
Speaker 5: narrative is different and those people can't speak their part.
Speaker 5: So that's why the conversation with the station was, look,
Speaker 5: we are profiting off of black culture. People from that
Speaker 5: culture should have a voice and be able to say
Speaker 5: something about what they're dealing with out on the streets.
Speaker 5: And since we're out there and we see it, we
Speaker 5: felt like we could lend that voice to the people
Speaker 5: that were marching next to us, Black, white, Hispanic, Asian
Speaker 5: and otherwise.
Speaker 4: But you see now and you fast forward to twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two, almost going into twenty twenty three, you know,
Speaker 4: a lot of the bullhorns, the batteries done died in them.
Speaker 4: You know, we've seen the signs that were held up.
Speaker 4: Those are somewhere in the garage. It was like, you know,
Speaker 4: there was a reason, but it was also a season.
Speaker 4: You guys went past the season, sure, you know, so
Speaker 4: why is it important to continue what you do? Well?
Speaker 1: You know, in the spirit of I want to shout
Speaker 1: out doctor Camilla Westenberg, She's my college mentor. In the
Speaker 1: spirit of the Panthers, in the spirit of doctor King
Speaker 1: and the spirit of Malcolm X, and the spirit of
Speaker 1: you know, Marcus Garvey, and the spirit of you know,
Speaker 1: Stokely Carmichael, all these names that we grew up learning
Speaker 1: about James Baldwin.
Speaker 2: It comes to mind. We realized that this is a
Speaker 2: long fight.
Speaker 1: This isn't something that we can just get out there
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, say a couple of names,
Speaker 1: and it's over. You know, we have to stand on
Speaker 1: the legacy and the history of our leaders before us,
Speaker 1: and nobody was doing what we were doing what we're
Speaker 1: doing now in the space that we're doing it. In
Speaker 1: other words, we're more than just rappers and singers and dancers.
Speaker 1: We are thinkers, we're leaders. We are people that love
Speaker 1: our children, We love our families, we love our communities.
Speaker 1: We want our communities to be strengthened. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: born in California, you know, I grew up around all
Speaker 1: different types of people, and you know, doing radio and Arizona,
Speaker 1: it it whittles it down just a bit. So it's
Speaker 1: just really black and Latino out there in terms of minorities,
Speaker 1: and we're all we got in terms of marginalized folks.
Speaker 1: And so again, seeing that unity in the streets, being
Speaker 1: able to kind of capture that moment and project it
Speaker 1: into the future and really have a place where if
Speaker 1: something else happens, folks can come and say their piece,
Speaker 1: We'll hold the space for you, will hold a microphone
Speaker 1: for you can come and talk. And where do we
Speaker 1: find Civic Cipher Now you can find Civic Cipher at
Speaker 1: civiccipher dot com. Yes, sir, you know, we've also partnered
Speaker 1: with iHeartMedia and that's another thing that I'd love to
Speaker 1: talk about. But we are found on thirty stations around
Speaker 1: the country. Hopefully we'll be able to talk to mister
Speaker 1: Winter and talk about getting presence here in La very soon.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the show was growing when the process of
Speaker 1: negotiating an additional effectively doubling our footprint in terms of
Speaker 1: stations around the country. So hopefully by the beginning of
Speaker 1: next year we'll have that situated.
Speaker 2: But how did the relationship to you? How did the
Speaker 2: relationship start?
Speaker 5: So it started, of course out of djaying, But that
Speaker 5: was something that Ramsey saw that I didn't. I had
Speaker 5: just moved back to Phoenix from Detroit and was looking
Speaker 5: for something to do career wise, and rams had met
Speaker 5: me when I was working for mo at Hennessy. The
Speaker 5: radio station would cover our advertising, and Ramses wrote a
Speaker 5: letter to LV and Mah just about the type of
Speaker 5: professional I was.
Speaker 2: And when I saw the letter, my boss forwarded to me.
Speaker 5: Rams and I had just met and crossing we didn't
Speaker 5: have a personal relationship. When I saw that, he put
Speaker 5: pen to paper to vouch for me to this French company,
Speaker 5: you know, thousands of miles away.
Speaker 2: And they were so impressed by that.
Speaker 5: The next time I saw him, I had to make
Speaker 5: sure I didn't just shake his hand, but that I
Speaker 5: put my arms around him and let him know how
Speaker 5: far that went. And I then moved to Spain, moved
Speaker 5: to Toronto, and when I got back to Phoenix, the
Speaker 5: first person I reached out to was Ramses and he
Speaker 5: was like, man, you might want to try these turntables
Speaker 5: out barely was a ridiculous idea, but before never, never,
Speaker 5: I had never even thought about it or considered it
Speaker 5: really And Ramsey said, look, I.
Speaker 2: Would have hated to have been at the club when
Speaker 2: you were first starting story.
Speaker 5: He left me hanging when I first started really him
Speaker 5: in the water bro swim. His thing was buy some
Speaker 5: turntables and I'll teach you how to DJ. He wanted
Speaker 5: me to make that first investment. He could have just
Speaker 5: gave me some terms that he had plenty, but he
Speaker 5: wanted me to make that investment to know I was serious,
Speaker 5: inviting me to the club for the first time, told
Speaker 5: me he had to go to the bathroom.
Speaker 2: Oh no, stayed going to the bathroom for thirty minutes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember. That's when his bowels were bad. Every
Speaker 4: time I talk to me like, yeah, come in the restroom.
Speaker 4: But you saw something in him, possibly that at the moment.
Speaker 4: No matter how much shine them, no matter how much
Speaker 4: we you know, know our self worth, sometimes someone else
Speaker 4: will see something else in you, sir. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. You saw that in QO. I heard that
Speaker 4: and didn't suppress it. No, no, no, It Isn't it
Speaker 4: crazy how some people like you'll get folks that say, okay,
Speaker 4: well you know, Lebron James, shut up and dribble, you know,
Speaker 4: and then it could just be spending the record.
Speaker 2: Don't say nothing, you know.
Speaker 4: So sometimes man, we don't understand how powerful this microphone
Speaker 4: is exactly, and how powerful this voice is, and what
Speaker 4: you do with this microphone and with the voice. Yes, sir,
Speaker 4: all of us can bring in the next Drake record,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, But it's what we do
Speaker 4: between those records and what we do aside those records.
Speaker 4: So when you do see certain things happen in our community, bro,
Speaker 4: people not that they expect us to say something, but
Speaker 4: we should expect us, me, you to say something, you know.
Speaker 4: And we went through well not even just twenty twenty. Bro,
Speaker 4: when you sit here, you go down that list. It's
Speaker 4: been a fight for a long time, and there's absolutely
Speaker 4: no time to give it up, no matter how many decades,
Speaker 4: no matter if it's a century, whatever it is, because
Speaker 4: those problems still exist today exactly. And we do need
Speaker 4: the entertainment, we do need everything that we're playing, but
Speaker 4: we also need a balance. And what happens today, man,
Speaker 4: is we don't have a lot of the leaders, and
Speaker 4: then when we do have the leaders, they don't get
Speaker 4: the platform, you know. So that's why we got to
Speaker 4: continue to make sure that our voices are used and
Speaker 4: we take care of our platform. And our platform also
Speaker 4: tells people going on, we're right here, we're in primaries,
Speaker 4: we're voting with it, and sometimes, man, we don't get
Speaker 4: the message unless the message comes from us. So continue
Speaker 4: doing the message, man, continue getting that out there.
Speaker 5: Speaking of platforms, he pushed me in the water with
Speaker 5: this too big really so when he went to the
Speaker 5: station about us doing a show to give our people
Speaker 5: a voice, you'd never believe what our hip hop station
Speaker 5: said to us. Sorry, Ramses, we don't want to do
Speaker 5: a black show the hip hop station.
Speaker 2: The hip hop station, y'are not no longer there though
Speaker 2: right now we can kill it.
Speaker 5: They could have said we don't want to do a
Speaker 5: political show. They could have said we don't want to
Speaker 5: do a polarizing show. They said we don't want to
Speaker 5: do a black show. And Ramses was in this meeting
Speaker 5: by himself. I wasn't present. Ramses resigned for both of
Speaker 5: us that day, damn, and he knew that I was
Speaker 5: staying with him, wrote a resignation letter to the city
Speaker 5: of Phoenix.
Speaker 2: And we couldn't look at our sons rafter.
Speaker 5: These people then told us we don't want to do
Speaker 5: a black show on the hip hop station to the
Speaker 5: only black on air talent in Phoenix.
Speaker 4: And who you're speaking with as well, who you're speaking too,
Speaker 4: which is crazy. And we've seen this so called genre
Speaker 4: and we've seen our lifestyle. Man, it plays all the
Speaker 4: way across and they said that to you in the room,
Speaker 4: and you resign.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wrote, and like you said, I wrote the
Speaker 1: letter to the city of Phoenix, and then that letter
Speaker 1: ended up getting shared and shared and shared. So it
Speaker 1: made the radio trades and that's how a lot of
Speaker 1: radio folks ended up reaching out. My first station was
Speaker 1: kk FAR and Phoenix, so shout out to DJ Complex
Speaker 1: Ben Romero. But then other stations around the country reached out.
Speaker 1: We got on in Tucson. That was our first connection
Speaker 1: with iHeart, so shout out Steve earn Hart, and then
Speaker 1: you know, the rest of the country.
Speaker 4: You did a different battle, you know how sometimes you
Speaker 4: got to push some things uphill because it's not you know,
Speaker 4: it's not you know, it's not fun. It's not and
Speaker 4: it's not yet it's a whole different thing as opposed
Speaker 4: to you know, I want to do the shoot them
Speaker 4: up hours.
Speaker 1: So this is this is another another thing to your
Speaker 1: point about the platforms.
Speaker 2: So we did. Uh.
Speaker 1: A gentleman named Tony Coles reached out from iHeart too,
Speaker 1: the CEO level stuff, you know, and he heard about
Speaker 1: what we were doing. He's like, Hey, we got to
Speaker 1: partner on some stuff, but I would like you to
Speaker 1: do some other things with iheartwo Enter the Black Information Network.
Speaker 1: So I've been working with them for the better part
Speaker 1: of a year on a daily podcast for the Black
Speaker 1: Information Network where I interview folks from Roland Martin, you know,
Speaker 1: and it firmly it gives me some credibility with.
Speaker 2: Respect to civic sipher the radio show.
Speaker 1: But it also kind of helps me to network and
Speaker 1: expand and then off and diversify what it is I
Speaker 1: can bring to the table on the radio.
Speaker 2: In the hip hop space.
Speaker 1: In terms of platforms Q has acquired within the same timeframe,
Speaker 1: I believe the imprint the media imprint hip Hop Weekly,
Speaker 1: so hip Hop weekly magazine that you're familiar with now
Speaker 1: he owns that. So in terms of like procuring our
Speaker 1: platforms and making sure that we have the stages so
Speaker 1: we can tell our stories now our voices, I want
Speaker 1: to speak for you.
Speaker 2: So so talk to me about here. Pop Weekly.
Speaker 5: So the magazine had laid a bit dormant in my opinion. Oh,
Speaker 5: they never went away, but they stopped print and they
Speaker 5: stopped running original content. It's just a bunch of shared content,
Speaker 5: and we knew that that imprint. People know the imprint.
Speaker 2: And it means something to us.
Speaker 5: Yes, So being able to, like you said, and like
Speaker 5: Ram just said, give our people a platform. You know,
Speaker 5: I can employ writers, journalists, freelancers that want to share stories,
Speaker 5: that want to develop their craft, and that want to
Speaker 5: put something credible on their resume. In the journalism space
Speaker 5: and the photography space, and in the music creation space.
Speaker 5: Being able to take new artists and blast their music
Speaker 5: off to millions of people that maybe otherwise wouldn't have
Speaker 5: heard it.
Speaker 2: I wanted us to be able.
Speaker 5: To have some control over our own voices and how
Speaker 5: far they could reach.
Speaker 4: And how is hip hop weekly now? Is it still
Speaker 4: print or is it more so?
Speaker 2: It's more digital now.
Speaker 5: And we were considering going back to print because some
Speaker 5: of our brothers and sisters who are away, that's how
Speaker 5: they keep in touch with the world and with the culture.
Speaker 5: So we have a you know, we had you know,
Speaker 5: several tens of thousands of subscriptions that just stopped being filled.
Speaker 5: So those people don't have that bridge that they used
Speaker 5: to have. So we're looking at making sure our brothers
Speaker 5: and sisters that are down get some light get some
Speaker 5: inspiration and get some information, and then just rejuvenating the
Speaker 5: digital space as well, from the website to social media
Speaker 5: to those people that follow Hip Hop Weekly magazine. We
Speaker 5: got some fresh new content coming for you, some fresh
Speaker 5: new voices, a bunch of young creators that want to
Speaker 5: get involved.
Speaker 2: So it's something that's really exciting.
Speaker 4: And man, with so many voices being heard and now,
Speaker 4: at one point it was okay, you got something from radio,
Speaker 4: you got something from television. There was you know, back
Speaker 4: in the days, it was a few news outlet, you
Speaker 4: had newspapers. Now with this device, everybody has a voice,
Speaker 4: rightfully so, but that voice also means that everybody has
Speaker 4: something to say, and sometimes people are saying bullshit. Yes,
Speaker 4: and you get that when you do have a voice,
Speaker 4: and your voice talks to your audio, and then you
Speaker 4: have another voice that can talk to the masses, like
Speaker 4: a Kanye West. And when we see Kanye West with
Speaker 4: a White Lives Matter shirt not having a conversation, I.
Speaker 2: Still don't know what it means.
Speaker 4: But looking at it and then watching some of the
Speaker 4: interviews that he's done in the last couple of a
Speaker 4: few days, he's doubled and.
Speaker 2: Triple down on it.
Speaker 4: We had a brief conversation about White Lives Matter, the
Speaker 4: actual shirt, the slogan all Lives and you brought something
Speaker 4: to my attention, y'all.
Speaker 2: Did that blew me away right now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So there's a funny story. The federal trademark for
Speaker 1: White Lives Matter is not owned by Kanye West at present.
Speaker 1: It is owned by Civic Cipher LLC. And Civic Cipher.
Speaker 2: Is US me and Q. Yes, how did that happen? So? Yeah,
Speaker 2: So let me tell you.
Speaker 1: There's an individual who is based in Arizona that had
Speaker 1: the foresight to procure the trademarks, the federal trademarks for
Speaker 1: the benefit of black and brown people so that other
Speaker 1: folks wouldn't profit off of it. And this person knows
Speaker 1: about what you and I are doing. This person trademarked
Speaker 1: White Lives Matter and submitted the application for All Lives
Speaker 1: Matter as well. So we're still chasing that one up.
Speaker 1: But White Lives Matter has come back and to excite
Speaker 1: right right, and it has since been well it was
Speaker 1: originally filed in that person's name has been since reassigned
Speaker 1: to us. So actually we just got the receipt from
Speaker 1: our lawyer today. So shout out to Morris for taking
Speaker 1: care of that for us. But yeah, civic site for LLLLC.
Speaker 1: So we are the holder of the federal trademark for
Speaker 1: white lives. And what would that mean? So that means
Speaker 1: that the only person who can profit off of it
Speaker 1: not make shirts. Because you can make a shirt and
Speaker 1: wear it, and that's your right as an American citizen.
Speaker 1: But if you want to sell that shirt, you either
Speaker 1: have to come knock on my door. You have to
Speaker 1: face Morris, my lawyer, who is the person that helps
Speaker 1: me protect that brand. And now that it is in
Speaker 1: our care, we can decide how it benefits the black community,
Speaker 1: the brown community, you know, everyone to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: and it brings us all together. It doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: you're in the white tribe or not. Something that benefits
Speaker 1: all of us. But of course we like to focus
Speaker 1: where there's the greatest need, and oftentimes we find that
Speaker 1: in black and brown communities. So if you ever see
Speaker 1: that shirt for sale, just know that, well I'm calling, Yeah,
Speaker 1: call me what you want, please, please, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Speaking of which, Speaking of which, I'll add
Speaker 1: to it that Morris did send out I believe it
Speaker 1: was either Morris or our other lawyer sent out cease
Speaker 1: and desist to some of the sites that were selling
Speaker 1: bout leg stuff.
Speaker 2: So we sent out about twenty five c and ds.
Speaker 1: That would have been yesterday and then today we got
Speaker 1: the registration, the reassignment.
Speaker 4: And also with being Black Information Network, how do we
Speaker 4: find you there and how do we find the actual
Speaker 4: saving cipher?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Sure, sure so Civic cipher. You can go to civic
Speaker 1: cipher dot com and tap in. We're at civic cipher
Speaker 1: on all social media Civic Cipher.
Speaker 2: We own the federal trademark for that. Man.
Speaker 1: How often do y'all do savic Cipher It's a weekly show, okay,
Speaker 1: so an hour week So just on your local station,
Speaker 1: ask petition, petition your local stations to carry Civic Cipher.
Speaker 2: Help us on our way.
Speaker 1: For the Black Information Network Daily podcast, you can go
Speaker 1: to iHeart dot com. I'm under all the tabs, the
Speaker 1: podcast tabs.
Speaker 2: If you're in the news, click news.
Speaker 1: I'm right next to Katie Couric, my face and my approl.
Speaker 2: I'm next to Charlotte Mae. There you go.
Speaker 1: Thanks big, you know, and and you know we're we're
Speaker 1: trying to do something. You know, I do believe that
Speaker 1: love should be at the center of the narrative. Forgiveness
Speaker 1: should be at the center of narrative. I'm not the hugest.
Speaker 2: Fan of.
Speaker 1: Being angry and spaces like that. I believe that healing
Speaker 1: kind of gets us a little bit further. And you know,
Speaker 1: both Q and I really have done our best to
Speaker 1: have conversations.
Speaker 2: It's starting to end on those points.
Speaker 1: And so tap in with me, Tapping with Q at
Speaker 1: Hip Hop Weekly, the Black Information Network of course byrnews
Speaker 1: dot Com and Civic Cipher, where we're doing our best
Speaker 1: to try to make the world a.
Speaker 2: Little bit But how long have y'all been rocking in
Speaker 2: the pretty world? Thank you? Seventeen eighteen years? Really, it's
Speaker 2: been a while. And Q, how long you been DJing?
Speaker 2: I started dj in twenty ten? Right? And how when
Speaker 2: did you start DJing? Ah?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: He said he started in twenty ten. He didn't say that.
Speaker 2: He's the Phoenix Suns DJ. Oh yeah, yeahd in Phoenix
Speaker 2: Suns DJ. Okay, were you DJing at Phoenix and four
Speaker 2: game when dude put hands on that, Yes, sir, you
Speaker 2: have to go to the finals.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we had to bring my kids on the court
Speaker 5: during the finals, but it was it was really cool
Speaker 5: experience with the Suns for three years. Stepped away after
Speaker 5: last season, so I'm, you know, just kind of just
Speaker 5: in this space now, City Cipher kind of.
Speaker 2: It's become far more important.
Speaker 5: Like you said, the season passed for everybody to be
Speaker 5: involved in the movement, but we have an obligation to
Speaker 5: the people to keep doing this.
Speaker 2: It's not something we can just sit down.
Speaker 4: Right say we did our partner, Sir, youah fold to
Speaker 4: sign up lead that well. Man. Thank you guys for
Speaker 4: coming in and sharing y'all presence with me as well. Yes,
Speaker 4: sir and rams as you know, anything you need on
Speaker 4: my n brother, you know, sign for money, let me
Speaker 4: know what's happening. Brother. You've always been more than one
Speaker 4: thous while with me, bro, and so it's just a
Speaker 4: pleasure to see see what you.
Speaker 2: Guys are doing.
Speaker 1: Real quick before I get out of here, Man, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna send you the video. Man, you said you the
Speaker 1: first time I met you in person, you recorded a
Speaker 1: video for me. It was in Arizona in front of
Speaker 1: a casino. Are you sitting I'm gonna texted to you
Speaker 1: and you you did a shout out sounded just like that.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: And Man, I incorporated that shout out into every air check,
Speaker 1: every video air check.
Speaker 2: Yes, Man, so you are like.
Speaker 1: This probably two thousand and eight, maybe it's crazy.
Speaker 2: So I've been riding that wave ever since. Man. So
Speaker 2: it's an honor to be here man's presence. Appreciate you,
Speaker 2: always appreciate you. Man.
Speaker 4: And like we say, man, we got to put it together.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying is if mine needs you
Speaker 4: know that information, let it be known.
Speaker 2: I can get it out there. And the same when
Speaker 2: I need to holler at y'all. Man.
Speaker 4: But thank you, guys. I appreciate y'all. Man, y'all stick around,
Speaker 4: big boys, neighborhood boy