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Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm just about that Action Boss.

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Speaker 3: What is up? Everybody?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast presented by Bett MGM.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host Chris Raybaund of the Action Network and

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Speaker 1: on today's pod, we're doing our draft grades, do our

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Speaker 1: NFC edition here and joining me to break it all down.

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Speaker 1: A longtime friend of the podcast, Matthew Friedman of Fantasy Life. Matt,

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Speaker 1: how's it gone?

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Speaker 2: It's scared by the way. I'm not just a longtime friend.

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Speaker 2: I'm an ex girl friend.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Hey man, I was trying to give you the

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Speaker 1: more positive thing, you know, X, I have some negative

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Speaker 1: connotations there, you know.

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Speaker 3: I thought we broke upon on good terms, so we did.

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Speaker 2: It was an amicable party and happy to be back

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Speaker 2: on the show, and we did. We did the show

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Speaker 2: last year, and I believe in passing. I mentioned something about, hey,

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Speaker 2: Pooka and Akua might be decent, So I'm going to

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Speaker 2: give myself full credit and that I definitely could see

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Speaker 2: that he was going to be an all pro.

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Speaker 1: That's why we want to get your breakdowns of all

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Speaker 1: these teams. We'll get your get a grade out of

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Speaker 1: you for each each each team and before we kind

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Speaker 1: of dive in. We'll go team by team, of course,

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Speaker 1: but I just wanted to get kind of your big

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Speaker 1: picture takeaway from the twenty four NFL Draft in general

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Speaker 1: and your biggest surprise from the NFC in particular.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So it was pretty chalky overall. Like if you

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Speaker 2: were someone who avidly read a whole bunch of mock drafts,

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Speaker 2: what you saw in there was pretty representative of what

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Speaker 2: you ended up seeing in round one, with the exception

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Speaker 2: of course, of bow Knicks and Michael Pennix going in

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Speaker 2: round one and going as early as they did. You know,

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Speaker 2: some people thought maybe the Broncos would trade back and

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Speaker 2: Some people thought, you know, Pennis thirteen to the Raiders,

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Speaker 2: but no, the Falcons jumped the gun and then shot

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Speaker 2: Peyton just wanting to get his guy, jumped the gun

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Speaker 2: at number twelve. And so you know, the story was

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Speaker 2: the quarterbacks. And I will say I was very skeptical

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Speaker 2: we would see five or six quarterbacks go in round one.

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Speaker 2: And here's one of the biggest reasons why at no

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Speaker 2: point in this process did anyone say this is maybe

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Speaker 2: the greatest quarterback prospect class of all time. No one

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Speaker 2: even came close to saying something like that. They said that,

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Speaker 2: you know, three years ago when we had five guys

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Speaker 2: go in round one, no one said anything like that. Now,

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Speaker 2: but we had six quarterbacks go, not just in round one,

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Speaker 2: but in the top twelve, and that ties the all

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Speaker 2: time mark for quarterbacks in round one set by the

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Speaker 2: all time great nineteen eighty three quarterback class. Like the

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Speaker 2: NFL is valuing these guys as if this is an

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Speaker 2: all time great class, and you know, time will tell,

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Speaker 2: but I believe right now Pennix was a reach in

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Speaker 2: bone was a reach. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean we've been you know, we've done pre draft

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Speaker 1: pods in the past where we're you know, looking for

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Speaker 1: definitely a surprise, especially for them all to go yet

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Speaker 1: within the top top half of that draft. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with the Atlanta foul. Let's start in the NFC South

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Speaker 1: just so we can talk about the Atlanta Falcons first

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Speaker 1: because I'm curious as to your opinion, uh you know,

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Speaker 3: And then the rest of the draft. You know, I'll

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Speaker 1: You know, from a player perspective, I don't like to

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Speaker 1: to evaluate these guys. There's a range of outcomes. You know,

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Speaker 1: But what bothered me about the pick was then, you know,

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Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts on this whole panic situation?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you said it right there. The thing

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Speaker 2: It's like poker, like you can't control how the cards

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Speaker 2: Are you giving yourself a chance to have a winning hand?

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Speaker 2: you want Michael Pennix in the top ten, that's fine,

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Speaker 2: but then you don't give Kirk Cousins one hundred million guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: If you want Cousins because you want to compete right now,

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Speaker 2: we're going all in this direction. What they're trying to

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Speaker 2: it does not make sense to have Kirk Cousins on

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Speaker 2: a one hundred million dollar contract. And that's like the

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Speaker 2: You don't want to start by alienating your quarterback who

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Speaker 2: hasn't even played a game for you yet. And by

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Speaker 2: now you've created a situation where the guy who theoretically

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Speaker 2: In the second round, I think they made a really

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Speaker 2: But if I'm giving an F in this class, this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I it's just funny because this Falcon team, like,

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Speaker 1: let's think back three four years of their draft, they've

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Speaker 1: taken a skill offensive skill player in the top ten

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Speaker 1: and each of the last four drafts, and I don't

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Speaker 1: know exactly what they have to show for it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're especially like their offense should be a week by now,

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Speaker 1: the way they're drafting skill players in the in the

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Speaker 1: be an interesting season for the Falcons. But uh, they

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Speaker 1: they're they better have hit on some of these other picks.

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Speaker 1: I'll say that because you know, with the with the

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Speaker 3: All right, let's.

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Speaker 1: Go to the team that won the division, the Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. Uh. You know, what did you think of

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean it felt like solid. I don't really

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Speaker 2: It was just like an all around I'll say, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, a C plus, you know, or I'll be minus.

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Speaker 2: I'll give him a B minus. There was nothing bad.

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Speaker 2: I did like that they took Graham Barton, a versatile

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman out of Duke in the first round. A

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Speaker 2: good chance that he plays center, but you know, he's

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Speaker 2: Some people thought that he was actually bang for buck,

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Speaker 2: I think they don't really lose much. So I think

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Speaker 2: it was a solid draft, nothing exceptional, but nothing wrong.

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Speaker 1: The New Orleans Saints, they only had a couple of picks,

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Speaker 1: you know, in that top in those top you know,

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Speaker 1: five rounds or so. They don't have anything in three

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Speaker 3: Thoughts on the Saints draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's again like one of those drafts where it

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Speaker 2: in the first round, Like they just need offensive line help.

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Speaker 2: You know, Ryan Ramchick, it seems like he's unlikely to

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Speaker 2: knee injury. Trevor Penning at left tackle really hasn't panned out.

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Speaker 2: They lost, you know, both of their kind of tackle

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Speaker 2: And Fuaga, I think, is a guy who could you know,

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Speaker 2: They can kick him inside if needed. I think they

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Speaker 2: Like there was some possibility that he could have gone

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Speaker 3: Which was a need for them. What'd you think of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of low key hated this draft. Like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Carolina, they seem like it's they just can't get

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I wasn't.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't too big of a fan of what Carolina

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Speaker 1: Let's jump to the NFC North. Let's start with Chicago.

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Speaker 1: You know number one had the number one overall pick.

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Speaker 3: I think Chicago was.

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Speaker 1: Kind of on that borderline where I think they had it.

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Speaker 3: And so I did like that pick. But what did

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely loved it, and you know I liked that.

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Speaker 2: So I really liked that they did that. I also like,

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Speaker 1: You know, they were oh so close to going to

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Speaker 3: A way to think of Detroit's draft.

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Speaker 2: So what I like is when front offices and general

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, and then they didn't need to trade up

434
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 2: you know, if you're thinking about like the pattern of trades,

435
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 2: they didn't need to trade up from the second round

436
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 2: into the first round, and then the first round higher

437
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 2: up into the first round to give up Dallas Turner.

438
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 2: Like if you look at all of the picks that

439
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 2: the Vikings gave a way to make that move that

440
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: ended up being like the equivalent of like the number

441
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 2: five overall pick. And I'll say it's similar to what

442
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 2: we saw out of the Texans last year, where they

443
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: had the number two pick, they got their quarterback, they

444
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 2: traded up back into the number three pick, and they

445
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: took will Anderson. Like fine, it worked out for them.

446
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 2: It probably wasn't all that great of a move even then,

447
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 2: and maybe they got lucky. But even if you do

448
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 2: think it was a good move, there was still a

449
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 2: difference between that process and this process. Will Anderson was

450
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,239
Speaker 2: the clear number one edge in his class, not the

451
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 2: case for Dallas Turner, who ended up not being the

452
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: number one edge in this class off the board, and

453
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: will Anderson was a stone cold lock in the top five.

454
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 2: Definitely not the case for Dallas Turner, who fell to

455
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 2: number seventeen. So I don't think like Turner is a

456
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: bad player. I think it's actually like a good scheme

457
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: fit that he has with the blind the Brian floor

458
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 2: as system uh in Minnesota. But I think they ended

459
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 2: up moving more than they needed to to get McCarthy

460
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 2: and Turner, and that ended up costing them a lot

461
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: of value in the middle rounds. So I like the

462
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: players they got, I don't really like what they had

463
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: to give up to get those guys, and so, like,

464
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: I do think of them as a little bit of

465
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: a low key loser throughout this process. And I would say, uh,

466
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: like C plus, like you got your quarterback, Like that's

467
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: always really important, but you had to give up a

468
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 2: lot to get him.

469
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, it's one of those things where

470
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: you're just really trusting. You're like, you're not maybe given

471
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: enough credit to the fallibility of your own you know,

472
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 1: draft process of you know, evaluating prospects because you're you're

473
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: you're honing in on a couple of guys and you know,

474
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: if they don't hit, you're you're kind of screwed because

475
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: he gave up a lot. Yeah, Green Bay, excuse me,

476
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: Green Bay. They go Jordan Morgan offensive tackle out of

477
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: Arizona late in the first edgern Cooper out of Texas

478
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: A and m at linebacker, and Javon Buller out of Georgia.

479
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: On day two in the second round, they have and

480
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 1: with you know, four picks.

481
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 3: On Day two.

482
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: They also go Marshawn Lloyd, the running back out of

483
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: USC and Tyron Hopper, the linebacker out of Missouri in

484
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: the third. So a couple of linebackers you know here,

485
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: but they do have a lot of picks on day two.

486
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: Where do you think of their draft?

487
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked their draft fine, I would say, like

488
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: it's a solid B. I liked getting Jordan Morgan. You know,

489
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: he gives them some versatility. He can play on a tackle,

490
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: but he can also scoot inside the guard if they

491
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: need it. Drin Cooper, who you know, got a little

492
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 2: bit of hype as a potential first rounder, but I

493
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 2: mean never really seriously was going to go there. But

494
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 2: I think, you know, decent value in getting him at

495
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: number forty five, super athletic, addresses a position of need.

496
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: Javon Bullard out of Georgia, the safety, Like I think

497
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 2: he has a decent chance of being able to contribute

498
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 2: in his first couple of years. Marshaun Lloyd, I think,

499
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: you know, good running back out of USC and a

500
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: decent chance that he ends up being their long term

501
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,719
Speaker 2: number two back. Like none of it was sexy, but

502
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: like they addressed positions of need without doing anything like

503
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: incredibly stupid and reaching for players. So like, yeah, I

504
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: would say, like that's a solid be all right.

505
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: Let's jump to the NFC East.

506
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 1: I know you're a partial to the Cowboys, a partial

507
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 1: to the Giants. That being said, you know, I looked

508
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: at this Eagle draft and I'm like, oh, man, here

509
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 1: we go.

510
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 3: This is this is a pretty good draft.

511
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: But what did you think, Uh, the Eagles, you know,

512
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: they go they double up on corners with their first

513
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: two picks.

514
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the breaking bad mean of like he

515
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: can't keep getting away with it, like Queny and Mitchell.

516
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 2: There was the possibility, you know, floated around, uh with

517
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 2: Eagles beat reporters, that the Eagles would have to trade

518
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 2: up if they wanted to get a player like Quini

519
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: and Mitchell, And there was the idea that like he

520
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: specifically was the guy that they would be targeting in

521
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 2: a trade up scenario. Awesome for them, they didn't have

522
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: to do that. They were just able to stay there

523
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: at number twenty two and get him. And then if

524
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: you looked at mock drafts, Cooper Degene was often commonly

525
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 2: mocked to the Eagles at number twenty two under the

526
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 2: idea that Mitchell wouldn't be there, and then they get

527
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: Cooper Degene in the second round, and you know, so

528
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 2: they addressed the situation of having these two starting cornerbacks

529
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 2: of Darius Slay and James Bradberry both over thirty. You know,

530
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: maybe Mitchell and de Gene can be the long term

531
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: successors to them. You know, maybe Degene ends up having

532
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 2: to play, you know, in the slot or play safety.

533
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 2: There's some uncertainty about whether he's a perimeter corner, but

534
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: either way, they two They get two really good players here,

535
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: and they do it at a position of need without

536
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: reaching and maybe getting some value while they were doing it.

537
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: And then in the rest of the draft, I like

538
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 2: getting Ania Smith at Texas a and M wide receiver.

539
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 2: He has some potential in the slot. Also Johnny Wilson,

540
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: you know, big bodied Florida state wide receiver who like

541
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: there's some talk that maybe he ends up having to

542
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: convert to tight end, but you know, maybe he's a

543
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: big bodied slot. So you know, they got some potential

544
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: in those two guys, and then they were able while

545
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: moving around in the draft. By the way, Howie Roseman

546
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 2: set a record I think for eight trades in the draft.

547
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: While moving around, they were able to pick up picks

548
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: for next year. So now for next year's draft, they

549
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: have two thirds, a fourth and two fifths. You know,

550
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: like they didn't sacrifice much in this draft while also

551
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: still loading up and giving themselves some flexibility next year.

552
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: So I would say this was a solid a for me.

553
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really liked their draft.

554
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: And Washington I think, you know, they had a lot

555
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: of picks, but I think they did a pretty decent

556
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 1: job with them.

557
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 3: What did you think of Washington?

558
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: Obviously they start off with Jayden and Daniels at number

559
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: two overall, but then they have four more picks, five more, yeah,

560
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: four more, five more picks in the top one hundred,

561
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: so they're able to you know, go out and get

562
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: it tight end.

563
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: They were able to hit their.

564
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: O line and getting on the wide out, a lot

565
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: of hit a lot of different needs I think for

566
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: for Washington.

567
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: So what did you think there?

568
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked their draft. I would say that is

569
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 2: for me also an A and yeah, Jaden Daniels, who

570
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: knows if it should have been him versus Drake May

571
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 2: I think I leaned more towards Jaden Daniels, but you know,

572
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: time will tell. In the second round, getting Gerson Newton,

573
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: I think that was really good value there. He was

574
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: a guy who was commonly mocked into the first round.

575
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: You know, there might be some concerns with like a

576
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: potential foot injury, and that is maybe why he slid,

577
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: But you know, I think as long as that is that,

578
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: as long as that's fine, Like I think he should

579
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: be fine. Now there's a question about, like whether they

580
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: actually needed another defensive tackle, Like that's one of the

581
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: few areas on the team to where it's like, you

582
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: guys are set. But you know, I think it is

583
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: a position of value there for them, and I do

584
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: like them adding him. Mike Sanders still out of Michigan

585
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: decent cornerback there. Getting him in the second makes sense.

586
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: Benson not super athletic tight end out of Kansas State

587
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: wasn't really productive, but a lot of athletic tight ends

588
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: entering the league aren't really all that productive and then

589
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: they just you know, become really good players in the NFL.

590
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 2: There's the possibility that he could do that, and it

591
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: addresses a position of need and he's got some like

592
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: positional versatility in terms of how they can use him,

593
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: like he's been like an hvac kind of played full

594
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: back some so like there are different things that he

595
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: can do, ways in which he can function in that offense.

596
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: Getting Brandon Coleman out of TCU, he has some guard

597
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: tackle flexibility, Like they need some offensive line help, they

598
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: need a left tackle. I don't think Coleman is going

599
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: to be able to fit that for them, but at

600
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: least they did get some added muscle there. And then

601
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: I really like Luke McCaffrey. Like I will say, if

602
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: there is one guy who has kind of like Hookah

603
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: Nikua type of potential, like I think it is McCaffrey,

604
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: like someone who didn't go early. In fact, I say,

605
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: like McCaffrey went higher than I think a lot of

606
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: people expected him to, but like he did really well

607
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: in college as someone who was just learning the position.

608
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: And he does have like Christian McCaffrey like athleticism, you know,

609
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: so it's not quite like, hey, just imagine Christian McCaffrey

610
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: is a slot receiver, but like it's approaching that. And

611
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: McCaffrey was a quarterback and then transition to wide receiver,

612
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: so like he has that quarterback mindset and perspective as

613
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: a route runner, and so I think there's a pretty

614
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: decent chance that he ends up having maybe not year one,

615
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: but like some like Hunter Renfro type of potential in

616
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: terms of, like, hey, there's this slot receiver who's actually

617
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: like way better than like we would expect him to be.

618
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: So McCaffrey, you know, maybe they reached for him at

619
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: pick one hundred, but I think he's going to end

620
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: up being a good player for for them. So I

621
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: like what they did overalls, and like, if you have

622
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: that many picks in the top one hundred, it's like

623
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: seven picks. Yeah, six picks in the top one hundred,

624
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: Like it's hard for your draft to look all that bad.

625
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, i'll give them an a.

626
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: All right, So that's that's your pook and a cool

627
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: call of this year. McCaffrey, mark it down, fantasy players.

628
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: Let's go to Dallas. They go Tyler Geydon, the offensive

629
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: tackle out of Oklahoma, in the first round. They do

630
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: trade down, we pick up another third rounder and that one.

631
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: Where'd you think of Dallas's draft?

632
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: I didn't hate it. I didn't. I didn't like it,

633
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: but at least I didn't hate it. The way I

634
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: hated last year's draft, where they drafted a defensive tackle

635
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: in the first round a twenty five year old tight

636
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: end in the second round. Like, at least they didn't

637
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: do anything like that. I liked that Tyler Geydon they

638
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: traded down and we're still able to get an offensive

639
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: lineman in round one, and Guyton has some positional statility,

640
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: he's either going to be their left tackle or their

641
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: left guard. The edge rusher that they got in the

642
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: second round Nland like, I think he will be a

643
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: perfectly fine rotational edge and then their Kansas Kansas State

644
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: interior offensive lineman that they got in the third round,

645
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: Cooper Bebe Like, I think he's got a decent chance

646
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: of slotting in as their center as a rookie. So

647
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 2: I feel like they did a pretty decent job of

648
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: addressing the offensive line in the first three rounds. And

649
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: then they didn't get a running back. But I mean,

650
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: I guess, like on the plus side, at least they

651
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: didn't overspend on a running back. On the minor side,

652
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: it means that they signed Ezekiel Elliott. So no, I

653
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: don't know which one I would have liked more, but

654
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 2: at least they didn't do anything that felt like a

655
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: drastic mistake, So I would say like, Okay, this is

656
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: a C. This is what a C looks like.

657
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: And then we have the Giants.

658
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: They go Malik Neighbors at number six overall, the wide

659
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: out out of LSU. Then they go to try to

660
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: fix their secondary or add to it with the new

661
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: Ben and Phillips. And then then they go back to

662
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: some offensive skill guys with THEO Johnson and Tyrone Tracy.

663
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: What do you think of the Giants draft?

664
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: This is like another I mean, I wouldn't say it's

665
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: a see. I think it's better than a C. And

666
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: that you got Malik Neighbors. I think he really upgrades

667
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: what they are doing on offense. They needed to get

668
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: a player like that, and it could have been tempting

669
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: for them to be like, hey, you know what, let's

670
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: take JJ McCarthy like they could have gone that route.

671
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: I think it was better for them to add a

672
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: wide receiver here. And then I do like that they

673
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: added THEO Johnson, who has a ton of upside, and

674
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: especially with the potential of Darren Waller retiring the uncertainty

675
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: there with him, they needed some help with the position.

676
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: I don't think there was anything overwhelming with what they

677
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: did at the other spots, but like, I don't think

678
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 2: they made any key mistakes. I would say, like this

679
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: is a B minus.

680
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's jump to the NFC West and start

681
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: with the Niners.

682
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: You know, they go to the Silper Bowl.

683
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: They start out their draft with Ricky Piersoll late in

684
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: the first round of wide out out of Florida, which

685
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: you know that creates questions about what's going on with

686
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: Debo and I you can remember this is a team

687
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: that they had an interesting draft last year. I think

688
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: they'd taken nine kickers in the on Day two and whatnot.

689
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: So what did you think of the Niners draft this year?

690
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: A few more players than they got last year, but

691
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't think you liked it quite as much.

692
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, can we like point out that the forty nine

693
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: ers are just like bad at drafting. I mean they've

694
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: they've been bad at drafting for years. And I would say, like,

695
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: if not for if not for Tom Brady being like, hey,

696
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: get rid of Jimmy Garoppolo, the forty nine ers maybe

697
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: wouldn't have found their quarterback in the early years. And

698
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: then if not for randomly landing on mister irrelevant. And

699
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to say like it's random, because look,

700
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: they did the job of scouting him and developing him.

701
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 2: But there is a lot of luck in being bailed

702
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: out by the last pick of a draft when you

703
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 2: invested two first rounders, like to trade up to get

704
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: a quarterback who did like literally nothing for you. The

705
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, it's like they it feels like they

706
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 2: are a trust fund kid who is just like spending

707
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: money that they did not earn, just in terms of

708
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: the way that they go about drafting, like positional value

709
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: means nothing to them, like big board value means nothing

710
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 2: to them. And that is how you get Ricky Pearsall

711
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: drafted number thirty one overall. And this is not a

712
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: knock against Pearsall. He would have been a perfectly fine

713
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: option in the second round, but like, you don't draft

714
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: him number thirty one overall. And I would say there's

715
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 2: also just like a process in terms of how you

716
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: do this, Like you took a wide receiver way earlier

717
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 2: than you need to at number thirty one, and then

718
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: you addressed cornerback in the second round, and cornerback was

719
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 2: a really thin position in this draft wide receiver a

720
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: really deep position in this draft. If you know, hey,

721
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 2: we're looking at these two positions, there's a decent chance

722
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: we take them in the top two. You obviously flip

723
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: the order of how you do it. You go cornerback

724
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: in round one, wide receiver in round two, and you

725
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: get yourself overall to higher quality players. So, like, there's

726
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: just in terms of like knowing how to navigate a board,

727
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: there is a lack of finesse that is surprising given

728
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: how long these guys have now been in power with

729
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, Like you have had years to

730
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: practice this, You have had years of getting feedback from

731
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: media asking you questions about, hey, why did you do

732
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 2: this stupid thing? And then, by the way, the forty

733
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: nine ers do not need a running back. They never

734
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: need to draft another running back, Okay, And of course

735
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: they drafted a running back in the fourth round, and

736
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: then even though they reached for a wide receiver in

737
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: the first round, they added what I would say is

738
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: like a redundant wide receiver in the fourth round. So

739
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I know they probably just stick to their

740
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: board and they don't really think too much about how

741
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: to navigate it. Like how to play it. But man,

742
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 2: if if you are playing a game and you don't

743
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: think of it as a game, you are already going

744
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: to lose. So the forty nine ers, I think they

745
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 2: got some decent players, but I don't think they really

746
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: did it in the best way possible. This is like

747
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: a D plus.

748
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: Do you think it's perhaps because you know, we don't

749
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: know exactly what goes on in their process, but I

750
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: do know teams kind of have some weird processes where

751
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: sometimes like the head coach will will kind of get it,

752
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: get have say on like maybe the first round or

753
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: and then kind of you know, the scouts will take

754
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: over later in the draft to the GM. But you know,

755
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: it seems like a lot of the moves you were

756
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: most critical of came on the offensive side of the ball.

757
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: We know, you know, that's Kyle Shanahan kind of running

758
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: the show. Do you think maybe he's he's you know,

759
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: his strengths are a lit more you know on the field,

760
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: you know, scheme and coaching, and maybe he was too

761
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: involved in the process of the draft process or what

762
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: do you think of how that how this keeps happening?

763
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's the story of the first year

764
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: that the forty nine ers had this new regime in place,

765
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: there was a running back that wasn't even on their

766
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: board that Kyle Shanahan put back on their board after

767
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: a conversation with John Lynch and then they traded up

768
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: to get him and then he did nothing for them?

769
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 3: Was that William? What's who is that?

770
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: Jay?

771
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 3: Was that Jay Willett?

772
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 2: No? Who was that? I can't I can't remember that

773
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: guy's name because it's so inconsequential because he never did

774
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: anything in the NFL. And like Shanahan made like, uh,

775
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: he made a thing of it of like no, go

776
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: get me this guy. And by the way, this was

777
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 2: after they had just signed Jarck McKinnon in the offseason

778
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: to a massive contract. Like they just have no sense

779
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: of positional value. And then also even if like if

780
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: you do want to invest in a running back, fine,

781
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: but then you don't need to over invest in it, right,

782
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: It's just it screams of like a lack of coordination

783
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: between different parts of the building.

784
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: All Right, the Rams they double up on Florida State

785
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: lineman early in the draft. They go Jared Verse at

786
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: number nineteen. Overall, they get Brandon Fisk in the second round.

787
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: They got Blake Forum out of Michigan in the middle

788
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: of the third.

789
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 3: What'd you think of the Rams draft?

790
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: So, I like, I'm mixed on it, Like there were

791
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: things that I really liked about it. I liked getting

792
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: Jared Verse in the first round, Like if things had

793
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: gone differently, there was a chance he could have gone,

794
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: you know, a decent amount higher than that defenders ended

795
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: up falling. I think, you know, great value there in

796
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: getting him at number nineteen. And you need to do

797
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: something with your defensive line. You know, they added some

798
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: guys last year to address it, but obviously losing Aaron Donald,

799
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: you need to add some more playmakers in the defensive trenches.

800
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 2: They did that with Versus and then I liked adding

801
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: his teammate, like Versu and Fisk, Like they played off

802
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: of each other quite a bit on the defensive line

803
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: at Florida State, So like adding those two guys already

804
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: having some continuity there, Like, I think it makes sense

805
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 2: and like generally it kind of fits the draft range

806
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: for Fisk. But I don't like that they traded up

807
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: and they traded a lot to get Fisk, and you know,

808
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: they did that when maybe they didn't really need to.

809
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: So I don't like that they kind of lost their cool.

810
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: They gave away more than they needed to. I do

811
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: like that they added Blake korm so like I like

812
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: the players that they added. I feel like they gave

813
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: away too much to get Fisk, especially when there was

814
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: a chance he was going to fall to them. But

815
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: I'd say, like, it's it's a B plus. Like I

816
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: like it more than I would I would like, like, honestly,

817
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: this should probably be like a This should probably be

818
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: like a C plus in terms of process. But I

819
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: like the players they got, so I'm giving it a

820
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: B plus.

821
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Rams, it's kind of like, I

822
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: guess they earned a little bit of benefit of the doubt.

823
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 1: You know, they've been kind of making some shrewd moves

824
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: and over performing expectations, and they go get Stafford a

825
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, we win a Super Bowl. Last year,

826
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll come out and say I thought their

827
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: defense was going to be horrible, and they found a

828
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: way to kind of stay, you know, stay afloat enough

829
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. You know, they got Hookah and

830
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: then you know this offseason, who was it A?

831
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 3: Was it cold?

832
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: They signed Kolbe Parkinson. I think like they make some

833
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: moves where it's like what are they doing? But they

834
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: sing to turnout okay, So I will give the Rams

835
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: some benefit of the doubt.

836
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: I mean, here's here's one way of contextualizing the Fisk move.

837
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 2: They traded up for a guy who turns twenty five

838
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: this year, Like you probably didn't need to do that

839
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: just so you could draft a twenty five year old

840
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: high in the second round. Like, you know, there were

841
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: some things that are like, you know what, if I squint,

842
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: this looks a little bit like the forty nine ers.

843
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, the Rams do want to look like

844
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: that's kind of what the Rams are trying to beat

845
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, Like they earn these epic battles

846
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: all the time.

847
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: So I get it.

848
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, you kind of wonder because I mean, two

849
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: guys from the same school. You wonder if they maybe

850
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, they fell in love, you know, because they

851
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: were obviously scouting Florida stay hard if they fell in

852
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,959
Speaker 1: love you know, with those guys a little too much.

853
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, we'll.

854
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: See Seattle a team that another team I feel like,

855
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: So I feel like Seattle a lot of times. You

856
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: can kind of criticize their drafts, you know, after the

857
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: fat and they tend to look a little better in

858
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: retrospect as well. They do get Murphy out of Texas

859
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: to DT at number sixteen. They go Christian Haynes out

860
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: a yukon a garden round two at a lot of

861
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: picks for Seattle on this one.

862
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: What'd you think?

863
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this was kind of a nondescript. I'd

864
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: give this like a c nothing wrong with it at all.

865
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: I do like getting Byron Murphy. You know, there's a

866
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 2: chance that he actually is a different, a difference making

867
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: defensive tackle for the front of you know, your your

868
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: new defense there under your head coach Mike McDonald. So

869
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: like getting him at sixteen. They didn't reach for him

870
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 2: anything like that. I think that's fine. They traded away

871
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: their second rounder last year to get Leonard Williams on

872
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: the defensive front as well, so you kind of have

873
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: to think of him a little bit when you're doing

874
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 2: the grade. Christian Haynes, he you know, fits a need.

875
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: He might compete to be their right guard this year.

876
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: So I think that's fine. But like there was nothing

877
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: other than adding Murphy, like nothing difference making with this draft,

878
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: but also like nothing that is going to like, you know,

879
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 2: raise concerns of like, hey, you really reach for this

880
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: player or anything like that, So you know, I think

881
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: it's a c I.

882
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: Mean, Seat was another one of those teams though kind

883
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: of like the Saints. I feel like they do usually

884
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: find or they're capable of finding, like all pro kind

885
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: of guys outside the first round. So yeah, an another

886
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: one where I was kind of interested to see, you know,

887
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: how these guys turn out. I wouldn't be surprised if

888
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: someone pops you know, it's it is nondescript, but I

889
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if somebody pops in those in those

890
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: middle rounds for Seattle, Uh.

891
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: The Arizona Cardinals.

892
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: You know, I I kind of struggle with this with

893
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: this draft, a lot of picks. I think there were

894
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: some reaches, but I guess you can you can say

895
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: you can afford to do that with with the amount

896
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: of picks that they had, although you know, as you

897
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, uh, you know, they kind of made some

898
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: trades last year and maybe maybe they were better off

899
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: not making so they do get Marvin Harrison. I love

900
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: love that you already have Kyler Murray, so you can

901
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: afford to just go wide receiver early in the draft. Uh,

902
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: and then just a lot of picks on on day

903
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: number two. You know, they go Robinson out of Missouri,

904
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: the DT they get, they get a corner, a d

905
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: back out of Rutgers, they get a they get Trey

906
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: Benson at running back. They get another their tight end,

907
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: Tim Raymond, who's interesting. Some people felt he was a reap.

908
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: So a lot a lot going on here for the Cardinals.

909
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: What did you like? What didn't you like?

910
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: By the way, Tip Raymond, if you told me that

911
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: name and said this is the name of a player,

912
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: what position does he play? Tight end would have obviously

913
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 2: been the choice for that name there. That's just like

914
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: your typical tight end name.

915
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: But the Falcon should have paired him with the Pennix.

916
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, I would say that this is a be

917
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: like nothing wrong with this draft. Marvin Harrison getting him

918
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: at number four, I think totally fine pick if it

919
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: had been a different year, Like there's a possibility that

920
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: he's going number two or number three, so I think

921
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: some good value there. I like Darius Robinson is the

922
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: second first rounder that they added. He's got positional flexibility

923
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 2: and that you know, he played out on the edge

924
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: this last season, but he started his career as a

925
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: defensive tackle, so he's got some versatility there. I think

926
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: that comes in handy when you have a defense of

927
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: head coach with the scheme that they have. You know,

928
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: you mentioned Max Melton, the cornerback out of Rutgers, and

929
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: then they also added in the third round Boston College

930
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: cornerback Elijah Jones, so double dipping at that position. I

931
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: think there's the hope that, you know, maybe both of

932
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: those guys could turn into starters for them. Trey Benson,

933
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 2: I think a really good number two running back. He

934
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: has I don't want, I want to say like Kenneth

935
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: Walker type of game, but like he's big and fast

936
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: like that. And you know, James Connor I think has

937
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: done you know, great yeoman's work for the Cardinals the

938
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 2: past few seasons, but he's getting older, and I think

939
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: Trey Benson is a really good number two who might

940
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: even end up overtaking him as the season progresses, Like

941
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: he has lead back potential in the NFL and third round,

942
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: I think that's the fine It's a fine time to

943
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: take a player like that. Isaiah Adams, the guard they

944
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: took out of Illinois. He has a pretty decent chance

945
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: of being able to start for them within his first season.

946
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: And then Raymond, he's a reach, Like he's a kind

947
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: of like block only type of tight end. You don't

948
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: need to take that in the third round. Guys like

949
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: that can be found on Day three. But you know,

950
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 2: nothing really wrong with a lot of what they did here.

951
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: And they did add bodies at positions of need, in

952
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: part because they have so many needs on the roster, right,

953
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 2: but at least you did it without any like massive reaches,

954
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: maybe with the exception of Raymond. So yeah, I would say,

955
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: like this feels like a bee.

956
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: All right, So that's going to do it.

957
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: Just kind of to recap, just who is your favorite

958
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: out of the NFC period, Like your favorite draft?

959
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: Who would you say?

960
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: I mean, it's easy to say Chicago because hey, you

961
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: got the number one pick, and then hey you had

962
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: another pick in the top ten. But so I really

963
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: do like Chicago out of like the non obvious, I'll

964
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 2: just still go with Philadelphia, like, you know, building all

965
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: of the draft capital for the future while also getting

966
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: two of the top five cornerbacks in this class at

967
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: value while addressing a position of need. I mean like

968
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: that's just a home run.

969
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 3: All right.

970
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: Well, that was great stuff, Matthew, and you'll be back

971
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: with our AFC edition of this pod tomorrow morning, so

972
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: be sure to check that out, and everyone be sure

973
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: to check out everything Matthew Friedman is doing over at

974
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 1: Fantasy Life. You can follow him on x formerly Twitter

975
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: at matt f The Oracle. Matt thanks again for coming

976
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,279
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00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,840
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