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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is up? Welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Show and podcast presented by Caesar's Reward.

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Speaker 1: It's me man MG Marcus Grant socially distancing and masking

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Speaker 1: when and where possible. Uh, and this is it. We

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Speaker 1: have come to the end of Fantasy Camp. It has

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Speaker 1: been a lot of fun over the past month. Big

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Speaker 1: thanks to all of my guests who stopped into the

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Speaker 1: Edward L. Murphy. Esquire Murphy. I hear you are having

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Speaker 1: thank you. Yes, all right, let's bring in the guests

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Speaker 1: for today's show as we wrap up Fantasy Camp series

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Speaker 1: and we're talking about the NFC West. Uh. The first

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Speaker 1: guy is a person that I have He's been on

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Speaker 1: I met him in person for the first time, like

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Speaker 1: a lot of my guests of The King's Classic and Canton,

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Speaker 1: Ohio just a couple of years ago. You know him

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Speaker 1: from Fantasy Pros. You can read him at Mike tag

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Speaker 1: Leier NFL. If that didn't tell you who it is,

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Speaker 1: I will tell you it's Mike tag Leier. Uh tags.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, man, oh man, I'm good. I'm missing

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Speaker 1: out on our on our get together. You know, we

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Speaker 1: The King's Classic, and my favorite part about that is

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Speaker 1: just mingling with you guys. You know, you and I

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Speaker 1: that um next, yes, plenty onto this show. Love to

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Speaker 1: have him back, partially because I love symmetry. He was

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Speaker 1: It is Michael Florio. Florio, welcome back, man, our things

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Speaker 1: things are as good as they can be right now.

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Speaker 1: Thank you as always for having me, and happy to

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Speaker 1: bring Fantasy Camp full circle with you. Yeah. Man, time

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Speaker 1: show all right? Yeah? Absolutely? Um. So for obviously the

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Speaker 1: people who are watching this, who have listened to this,

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Speaker 1: you know how this goes. We go through each of

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Speaker 1: start down in the desert with the Arizona Cardinals and

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Speaker 1: and tags. I will start this with you, uh. Kenyan

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Speaker 1: get someone like Kenyan Drake. He's a true three down workhorse. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the seventh round. Kenyan Drake Obviously, every time he's got

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Speaker 1: Just that. He was the number four fantasy running back

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Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake is playing for another contract, only five he

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna say Kenyan Drake is our main priority.

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Speaker 1: just of everything you just said tags send it directly

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Speaker 1: Because that's that's just who I am. Um, tags did

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Speaker 1: But that I think, yeah, right, But the question is,

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Speaker 1: so Tyreek Hill people are paying for Tyreek Hill is

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Speaker 1: end position. So there were so many things going in

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Speaker 1: Higbie's like in his favor and Again, I don't want

430
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Speaker 1: to see here and pretend this is one of those

431
00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,960
Speaker 1: things in fantasy football where we can't say with any

432
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,520
Speaker 1: certainty how what Sean McVeigh is gonna do. So I

433
00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,360
Speaker 1: think Tyler Higby's ADP is correct right around that tight

434
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,560
Speaker 1: end eight because again, he does have that top three

435
00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,440
Speaker 1: upside that that Mike's talking about, but he also has

436
00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,640
Speaker 1: some severe year downside that we saw throughout the first

437
00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,200
Speaker 1: few years of his career. I would argue that someone

438
00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,679
Speaker 1: like Hayden Hurst is probably safer in terms of what

439
00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,800
Speaker 1: his role is on his team, and he might come

440
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,600
Speaker 1: with just as much upside because we saw what Austin

441
00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,120
Speaker 1: Hooper did last year. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong.

442
00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, we've got we've got a

443
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,040
Speaker 1: solid top tier of tight ends, right, You've got your

444
00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,000
Speaker 1: Kelsey and Kittle at the top um, You've got those

445
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,240
Speaker 1: guys that are kind of high upside guys late in

446
00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,280
Speaker 1: draft where even throw a sticky in there, uh, you

447
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 1: know John new Smith and Noah Fant would happened maybe

448
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 1: in I guess Eric Ebron, I don't know if he

449
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,440
Speaker 1: qualifies as that. In the middle. I feel like there's

450
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,679
Speaker 1: just this mishmash of guys, right, whether it's it's they

451
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,600
Speaker 1: all seem to start with H, Higbie, Hurst, Hooper, Uh,

452
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,399
Speaker 1: maybe some of the guys whose names don't begin with

453
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Speaker 1: an H. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, but it

454
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,240
Speaker 1: just feels like that's all The range of outcomes for

455
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,160
Speaker 1: some of those guys I think is really really wide. Um,

456
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's interesting. I don't know where

457
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 1: to go with it. I Higbee, I'm still sorry. I'm sorry.

458
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm still really florio from your your number three potential

459
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 1: c A on Tyler Higby. I just because, like you said,

460
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Speaker 1: after the top four, I think they all have huge

461
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 1: question marks and for me, like seeing what Higbee did

462
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 1: down the stretch last year, I don't know if any

463
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 1: other tight end can and after the Big four can

464
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 1: match that. So I'm just thinking, like, hey, if I'm

465
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Speaker 1: taking a tight end after the Big four proven, I'm

466
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Speaker 1: gonna go with the most upside. All right, fair enough? Cool? Alright?

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Speaker 1: before we wrap up with the rams, Mike Taglier, who

474
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Speaker 1: is the real Jared Golf? Is it the guy that

475
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago was lighting the world on fire?

476
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Speaker 1: Is that the guy last year who was just fairly me?

477
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Speaker 1: Is it somewhere in between? Have we seen who the

478
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: actually Jared Goff is at this point? It's somewhere in between.

479
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Speaker 1: And unfortunately, you know what we're seeing right now, what

480
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: we saw in two thousand nineteen is probably a sign

481
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 1: of things to come because they didn't address the offensive line.

482
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Speaker 1: You know, when you have an offensive line that they do.

483
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Speaker 1: Andrew Witworth has been talking about retirement. His game is

484
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 1: is trending downward. I don't know if they have an

485
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 1: above average player on that offensive line anymore. Uh. That's

486
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 1: a real problem for Golf because he's not someone that

487
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 1: you know, he can't buy time like a Deshaun Watson,

488
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 1: like Kyler Murray, he can't do that like Russell Wilson.

489
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Speaker 1: You know, all these guys in this division. Um So unfortunately,

490
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 1: he needs to either learn to take a sack or

491
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Speaker 1: stop throwing interceptions, because he's a guy that legitimately he

492
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: refused to take a sack last year. Uh, he only

493
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,479
Speaker 1: took twenty two sacks. I think on the entire season

494
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 1: that's just not gonna work. You have to learn to

495
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 1: hold onto the football and stop taking chances and now

496
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 1: losing Brandon Cooks in the offense, that field stretching element

497
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: that he had with Cooks, that he had with Sammy Watkins.

498
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 1: I know they drafted receiver there in the second round,

499
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Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's a rookie receiver. We're

500
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Speaker 1: We're like, we have a shortened offseason, almost no offseason

501
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: at all, with no preseason work. There's a lot of

502
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: question marks surrounding this offense. So Jared Goff to me

503
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: is a streaming quarterback you can. I think he's a

504
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: good target to go after in two quarterback leagues because

505
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: what I typically aim for in those in those leagues

506
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: is someone that is is basically entrenched in their job.

507
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: They're not gonna lose their job. We know that Jared

508
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: Goff is never gonna get benched. Gardner Minshew one of

509
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: those guys you know, we talked about those guys in

510
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 1: the QB two area, but in terms of one quarterback leagues,

511
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: Jared Goff does not need to be rostered. You can

512
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 1: stream him, help be available on the waiver wire because

513
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: he just doesn't perform well against good football teams. Floria.

514
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Speaker 1: Are we are we at a point now where this

515
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Speaker 1: is sort of I mean, I think it's a make

516
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Speaker 1: or break year in a lot of ways for Jared Goff.

517
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Speaker 1: Are we looking for fantasy purposes that this is sort

518
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Speaker 1: of a make or break year for Sean McVeigh as

519
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: the boy genius too, because like last year was just okay. Um,

520
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like if we have another just

521
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 1: okay or less than okay year maybe and we just

522
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Speaker 1: stopped full wholeheartedly buying a Sean McVeigh offense, Is that

523
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Speaker 1: is that a weird thing to think. I don't think

524
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Speaker 1: it's a make or break year for McVeigh. I mean

525
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Speaker 1: McVeigh gave us two of the best years we've ever

526
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Speaker 1: seen out of a running back and in his offense

527
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 1: as a whole. Like I mean those two years he

528
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 1: had before last year his offense, we all thought, like

529
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 1: he said he was a boy genius and then even

530
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: last year the offense struggled, but for fantasy he provided

531
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: some a lot of fantasy goodness like Todd Gurley down here,

532
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: I completely admit that. But top fifteen running back still

533
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,959
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and Robert Woods were still doing their thing.

534
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: Tyler Higbee, like Taxi earlier, literally had a stretch that

535
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: no tight end in NFL history has been able to

536
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: ever do before. So while his offense and real life

537
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: he was definitely a disappointment, I think for fantasy he

538
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Speaker 1: was still providing plenty of fantasy goodness. And I continue

539
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: to hope that, you know, we'll have a Shawn McVeigh

540
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Speaker 1: offense in the NFL for a long time. I mean,

541
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Speaker 1: I suspect he's not going on any awhile, so maybe

542
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Speaker 1: this is just me being alarmist, which you know is

543
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Speaker 1: I think a little bit sideways. All right, Let's check

544
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Speaker 1: in up in Santa Clara with the San Francisco forty Niners,

545
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: which is a weird sentence to say because they don't

546
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Speaker 1: play anywhere near San Francisco. But yeah, whatever, um Florio,

547
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: you were really high on on Tyler Higby. So I'm

548
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna go to the well again and see

549
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: what are your expectations. What is potentially the ceiling for

550
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Speaker 1: Raheem most now that we know he's locked in with

551
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Speaker 1: the forty Niners this year. Yeah, I am the complete

552
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: opposite side of the spectrum from Higbie comes he Most.

553
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 1: I am fading him and fading him hard. With him

554
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: getting that contract, I think his ADP is actually gonna

555
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: climb because people are gonna think he is secure as

556
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: the forty niners starting running back. And if twenty nineteen

557
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: taught us anything it is that no one is secure

558
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,719
Speaker 1: as the forty Niners starting running back. Last year, they

559
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: had five different players finished a week as their highest

560
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: scoring fantasy running back. That is just absurd for fantasy.

561
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Speaker 1: And then also when you dive deep into Raheem mostert

562
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 1: stretch from weeks twelve through seventeen, he was only averaging

563
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: twelve point eight touches per game and one point two

564
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: catches per games. So right there you see that his

565
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 1: PPR floor is very low because he doesn't get those

566
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: catches that are gonna pad his numbers each week. And

567
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Speaker 1: he had eight touch downs on seventy seven touchdowns touches

568
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Speaker 1: in that span. That is forty six percent of his

569
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: fantasy points were scored off of touchdowns. And then if

570
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: you want to stretch it out and include you know,

571
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: the run throughout the playoffs in the super Bowl. I

572
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: know he had that amazing game against the Packers. Well,

573
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: he had thirteen touchdowns on a hundred and thirty three

574
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Speaker 1: touches in that span. That means once per every ten

575
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Speaker 1: touches he was scoring a touchdown. Of the fantasy points

576
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Speaker 1: he would have scored if you include the playoffs, we're

577
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Speaker 1: off of touchdowns. That is just completely unsustainable. That number

578
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: is gonna come back down in a big way, I think.

579
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: And then the reason that he doesn't catch passes. And

580
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Speaker 1: then also that it was last year that backfield was

581
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: a revolving door, and I don't want to draft someone

582
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Speaker 1: in the fifth round knowing that if he's a bad

583
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: game or two, we could see Coleman in there. We

584
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Speaker 1: could see Derrick McKinnon maybe finally get a snap as

585
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Speaker 1: a Niner. We could see uh Hurst get in there,

586
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: getting get in there. So I'm just for me most

587
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: there is a big time fade and someone that I

588
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,719
Speaker 1: want no part of in fantasy this year. Al Right, Well,

589
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: in tags, do you feel any more confident in say

590
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: a Tevin Coleman. I Jared McKinnon feels like a stretch

591
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: just because he's never been on the field. But would

592
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: you would you take a late round swing at a

593
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman at this point? Oh no no. Um. The

594
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: reason I can better about Mozart Um, So the Mozart

595
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: contract I can't. I'm not going to sit here and

596
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: pretend that it doesn't matter, because there is something to it.

597
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 1: Because the forty niners said, we don't really care if

598
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: you want to hold out, if you want to get traded,

599
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't care, and we'll get rid of you because

600
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: you're replaceable in cal Shanahan system. But they did give

601
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: him the money. Um, And it's kind of like, you know,

602
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 1: you a lot of people could talk about, you know,

603
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: his late age breakout, and it's like, okay, that's the thing.

604
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: But Damian Williams happened to Kenyan Drake obviously wasn't used

605
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: under Adam Gates like he should have been. Uh, there's

606
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,959
Speaker 1: there's some question marks around some coaches and how they

607
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: use the running backs, but either way, he most when

608
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: he's been given a shot, he's actually been a really,

609
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: really good running back. And the best part about is

610
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: that you're not really paying for what the production that

611
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: you could get out of him now drafting him in

612
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: the RB three range. That's fair. Uh. He averaged less

613
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: than ten combined carries and touches uh targets per game

614
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: last year. But if you look at the if the

615
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: team as a whole, Matt Breed has gone Matt Brito

616
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: is actually a talented running back. Tevin Coleman is the

617
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: opposite of that. Kevin. Tevin Coleman has struggled any single time.

618
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: He works best as like a satellite back that you're

619
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: giving ten touches per game to the forty Niners offense

620
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: last year created thirty two point seven combined carries and

621
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: targets per game to running backs. That was one of

622
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: the highest in the NFL. So even if you give

623
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman those ten touches, whatever you want to give him,

624
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: we're down to twenty two and it's like, Okay, Jerick McKinnon,

625
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: are we really gonna count on him after being out

626
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 1: of the league basically for two years? Not a whole lot.

627
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm so, I'm gonna say that's like fifteen

628
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: plus touches for for he Mostart getting him as like

629
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: the twenty six running back off the board twenty five

630
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: somewhere around there as your RB three. I'm down with it.

631
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: There is some risk involved with it, because as we

632
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: saw last year, this is a team that really didn't

633
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: want to go to one running back. But I think

634
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan finally figured out that Tevin Coleman is not

635
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: a feature back and then he needs to be in

636
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: that backup role and that's where he's most successful. He's

637
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: fine in that role, but don't trust him as a

638
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: workhorse back. You've never seen Tevin Coleman had games like

639
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: Raheem Moster did on the stretch, So I do think

640
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: this is Mostar's backfield. Unfortunately, it is going to be

641
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: somewhat of a time share. But that's what you're that's

642
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: why he's falling to the RB drafts. You're fine taking

643
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: him there. Yeah. Adam Right years ago coined the phrase Shannahanigans,

644
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: originally for Mike Shanahan, but his son has inherited that,

645
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: so it's just something to be aware of. Um tags,

646
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: I'll stay with you here. How high is too high

647
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: to draft George Kittle Right? Now there's really no such thing. Um,

648
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: if you want to, if you I mean, I'm not

649
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: gonna You're not gonna take him in the top five

650
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 1: or anything like that. But if you want to take

651
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: him at the start of the second round, I'm not

652
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: gonna fault you for it. Him and Kelsey are in

653
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: a tear by themselves and in a position that we

654
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: we know it's it's extremely volatile and those guys are

655
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: legit like head and shoulders above everybody else. And Kittle

656
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: just hasn't scored the touchdowns that he needs to to

657
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: get above Kelsey. But now Kelsey not many people realize

658
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: it's like thirty one years old. He's getting up there

659
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: in age and Kittles at the age where it's like

660
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: breakout tight ends happen. So Kittle with no Deebo Samuel

661
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: and the team, I anticipate more targets for him, and

662
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: I want to say that he scored I want to say,

663
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: three touchdowns last year with Deebo Samuel off the field.

664
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: So it's like Deebo Samuel being out for potentially a

665
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and not being even his old former

666
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: self is going to lend credence to George Kittle scoring

667
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: double digit touchdowns, that's a real thing, a real possibility

668
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: that year. And if you have a tight end, that's

669
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, setting records in terms of yardage. He's scoring

670
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: double digit touchdowns, you're gonna be happy that you spend

671
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: a second round pick on. Unfortunately you don't have to.

672
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: And if you start your draft with someone like Christian

673
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: McCaffrey at the one spot a lot of times, George

674
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: Kittle is getting to that back end of the second round,

675
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: I am more than happy to take him there. Yeah.

676
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: I mean I've gotten him at at like two oh

677
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: eight on a couple of different occasions and been perfectly

678
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: thrilled with that. I've sort of pegged this as the

679
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: year that George Kittle takes over as the number one

680
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: tight and I think this is the year he he

681
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: gets past Travis Kelsey. And I think especially because there

682
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: are so many issues with the rest of those past catchers,

683
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: and so that that begs the question my floorio. Uh,

684
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: we know that Deevo Samuel is hurt. He looks like

685
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: he's going to miss a good chunk of the season.

686
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: Brandon Iok had offseason surgery and he sort of has

687
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: that rookie learning curve that he has to deal with.

688
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: There are there any other Niners pass catchers right now

689
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: that you are interested in drafting on office roster? Yeah,

690
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 1: and it's Jalen Hurd for me. And he is a

691
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: player that you can get around fourteen fifteen, sometimes even

692
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: later in a best ball draft. So we are going

693
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: pretty deep here. But Kyle Shanahan drafted this guy in

694
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: the third round last year before back injury roomed his season.

695
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: But he is a six five, two hundred and twenty

696
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: six pound wide receiver who played running back in college

697
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: and started over Alvin Kamara. So here in Kyle Shanahan

698
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: talked about playing position with football and then hearing like

699
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: Raheem Most this week boast about how great of a

700
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: blocker Jalen Hurd is. I think that's just gonna lead

701
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: to him being on the field more. And someone who

702
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: has experienced as a receiver and a running back and

703
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: a Kyle Shanahan offense trying to play position with football.

704
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: I think he is someone who can thrive in that role,

705
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: uh and be a really big factor with the ball

706
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: in his hand after the catch. So Jalen heard, if

707
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,479
Speaker 1: you're getting deeper in your draft. He is a name

708
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: that I like, I have heard some Jalen heard hype

709
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: this offseason, especially when we've had all these other injuries

710
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: and surgery situations in San Francisco. Jalen heard his name

711
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: has come up a couple of times. I will say, though, Floria,

712
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: you're saying that he started over Alvin Kamara. It makes

713
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: me nervous for him in the sense that, you know,

714
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: how often do we talk about the fact that Mike

715
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: Glennon started over Russell Wilson and you see how those

716
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: two careers have sort of diverged from one another. Uh So,

717
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: what we'll see how that goes. Let's end up to

718
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: the Emerald City. We'll talk to Seattle Seahawks with Wait,

719
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: what does he called Mr Unlimited Russell Wilson? Which that

720
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: was bizarre to me because, like the original video, like

721
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: the questions that were being asked in the background, the

722
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: answers were Mr allumined and they didn't make sense. Um So,

723
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, but uh, let's start with Let's start

724
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: with Mr Unlimited, Mr Russell Wilson up there in the

725
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: Seattle Uh my tagle here, I feel like when we

726
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: talk about Russell Wilson. It's almost like we take him

727
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: for granted, right, Like everybody understands and and appreciates the

728
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: fact that he is very talented and he does an

729
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: excellent job with what he does. We don't necessarily talk

730
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: about him the way we talk about Lamar Jackson or

731
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. I just feel like, you know, when you're

732
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: talking abou Russell, nobody's really on fire to talk about

733
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and like, yeah, I got Russ and you

734
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: know whatever, the fifth round, sixth round, nobody really talking.

735
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: Why Why is it that we just we look at

736
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: Wilson and we're like, yeah, he's really good and draft

737
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: and it's fine. Nobody seems to get really excited over

738
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, and I can't figure out why. I think

739
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: it's because they're worried about the lack of total pass

740
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: attempts that they can get in the offense, because we've

741
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: seen it gone for too long. Where Russell Wilson he

742
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: may arguably the most in the second most talented quarterback

743
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: in this league right now. Unfortunately, he doesn't get to

744
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: showcase that as much as some of the other players

745
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: do because you don't see him get six hundred past attempts.

746
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: If you were to see Russell Wilson gets six hundred

747
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: pass attempts, you might see some records broken because this

748
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: guy continually breaks efficiency. You look at all of his

749
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: wide receivers. You go back to Doug Baldwin and people

750
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: are like, oh, he can't he can't keep up this

751
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: touchdown rate, and you gotta Tyler Locket, Oh he can't

752
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: keep up this touchdown right, then you gotta dk Metcal.

753
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: It's like it continually happens. And what's the what's the

754
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: common denominator here? It's Russell Wilson. Uh. The reason that

755
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: I am high on Russell Wilson this year and I

756
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: would take him over Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray is is

757
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: a big, popular breakout candidate, but when you take him

758
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: as the four, number four quarterback overall, you're essentially losing

759
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: all the potential equity you have and there you need

760
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: him to take that next step in his career. Whereas

761
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, he's been a top two quarterback before, he's

762
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: been there, he's always there, and this year, more than ever,

763
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: his defense is as bad as it's ever been. Uh.

764
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: And when you look at it, and you go towards

765
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks that they went out and basically tried to

766
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: acquire because they had uh it was Chaquil Griffin as

767
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: their top cornerback and then they were really struggling behind him,

768
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: so they went out and signed Quentin Dunbar from from Washington,

769
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: and then Quentin Dunbar gets arrested. Uh, he's probably not

770
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: gonna play in the NFL season. At the very least,

771
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna be suspended for a while. So it's like,

772
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: you look at this secondary. I know they just traded

773
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: for Jamal Adams. That's obviously gonna give a boost to

774
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: the back end of the defense, but it's still the

775
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: team that lacks pass rush and they're they're expecting that

776
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: back into the deep as to take care of things.

777
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna work out his plans. So

778
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see Russell Wilson continue to ascend

779
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: in past attempts, and as that happens, good things are

780
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: gonna happen in fantasy football. Well yea, as tags mentioned,

781
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean the past attempts, it's always frustrating. And I

782
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: know we all watched the Seahawks and think why don't

783
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: you just put the wall in number three's hands and

784
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: let him do his thing. That has never been the case.

785
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that the name Pete Carroll is ancient

786
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: Gaelic for established the run, which look has worked out

787
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: well for Chris Carson. Right now, they go out and

788
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: they add Carlos Hide this offseason, Rashad Penny, Well, we'll

789
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: see what his role is going to be. I mean,

790
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: Mike Florida, when you look at Carlos Hide, how do

791
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: you feel about him potentially this year in this offense.

792
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge advocate of drafting handcuffs, but I

793
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: think and if you draft Chris Carson like you a

794
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: hundred percent, should be trying to get Carlos Hide, like

795
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: you said, Penny likely starting on the pub. Carson last

796
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: year heard his hip. We don't know. He did not

797
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: have the operation. He chose to rehab, so we don't

798
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: know exactly how well his hip is going to hold up.

799
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: If he is still the Chris Carson of old. Chris

800
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: Carson always outperforms. I feel like it's always a value,

801
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: like he's an RB one when he is on the field.

802
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 1: It's just that injuries have plagued him throughout his career,

803
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: and that's why he goes a little bit later in drafts.

804
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: But if he is not himself, or if he gets

805
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: banged up early on in the year and the injury

806
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: doesn't happen late in the season like it did last year,

807
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: I think Carlos Hyde can very much so come on

808
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: this team. Like you guys were talking about, they love

809
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: to run the ball. Pete Carroll's game plan is basically

810
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: keep it close and let Russell Wilson ball him out

811
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: later in the game. But if he keeps calling players

812
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: like that, Carlos Hyde very well could rush for another

813
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: super boring one thousand yards like he did last season.

814
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: And to me, if you got starting job, he'd be

815
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: more of like an RB three or flex option. But

816
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: that's still value to be had given that he goes

817
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: around fifteen or later in a lot of drafts. Uh,

818
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: weird theory that I just came up with right now, Right,

819
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: it's Carlos Hyde sort of on track to be the

820
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: new Frank Gore, the guy who just sort of hangs

821
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: around the league. He bounces around the teams like he's

822
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: you know, he'll he'll come and he'll give you nine

823
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: hundreds who a thousand yards will never be spectacular. And

824
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, ten years from now, we're joking that Carlos

825
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: Hide is going to live forever, like I could give

826
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: him like Garrett Blunt or Garrett Blunt one or the other. Yeah, yeah,

827
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm saying this is this is going to

828
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: be Carlos Hide going up um tied was like kind

829
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: of injury prone early on to like Frank Gore. I

830
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: think I think he was started with the forty niners.

831
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: I mean there are so many Look man, it's it's

832
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: all coming together. It's all coming together. Uh my, tag Lear,

833
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: who'd you rather? Tyler Lockett or DK Metcalf. This is

834
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: gonna sound like a real cop out, But it depends

835
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: on how you want to build your team. You know.

836
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: I think a fantasy lineups is like the stock market, right,

837
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: Like you know, you have to have your blue chip stocks,

838
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: you have to have some high risk things, and you

839
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: have like you need some people that have guaranteed returns.

840
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: I think Tyler Locketts the guaranteed return the one who

841
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: has very little variants. Obviously, people I keep it. As

842
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: I mentioned, they expect him to have touchdown regression and

843
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: it just doesn't happen. Because he plays with Russell Wilson.

844
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: He has that slot role. It's a very valuable role,

845
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: and I think he's a safer player because we've heard

846
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: them talking about Antonio Brown. We've heard them talking about

847
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon bringing him back, and if they do that,

848
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: that affects DK Metcalf more than it does Tile Locket

849
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: because Locketts roll in the slot is lockdown, It's there.

850
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: DK is still gonna be a starter, obviously, but DK

851
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: is the one with the massive upside, Like if you're

852
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: shooting for top ten potential, DK has got it. He's

853
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: a guy that's been working out with Russell Wilson this offseason.

854
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: You know, DK was a guy that came in the league.

855
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: I loved him. Him and A. J. Brown were my

856
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: one A and one B receivers I have. I love

857
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: DK's landing spot, which is why he was my number

858
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: one rookie last year, hands down. But we can't forget

859
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: he had a nie scope last preseason. People didn't think

860
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: he was gonna be ready for Week one, and then

861
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: on top of that, they talked abou him being a

862
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: raw receiver and that he can't move. You can only

863
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: run the go route. Well, DK Metcalf evolved as the

864
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: year went on, and you've seen him grow as a player.

865
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: You've seen them start to move him around the formation,

866
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: start to run more than just those nine routes, and

867
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: then you see him break a rookie record in the

868
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: playoffs against the Eagles. Uh dk Metcalf growing with Russell Wilson,

869
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: that was the best landing spot for him. And it

870
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: really the league. Shame on the NFL every other you know,

871
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: all thirty one other teams that had a chance to

872
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: rap DK Metcalf before the Seahawks got him. I mean,

873
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: think about this for a second. The Eagles drafted j

874
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: g Artega Whiteside before DK Metcalf. How bad is that?

875
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: Uh So, the DK Metcalf top ten wide receiver ceiling,

876
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: he comes with a little bit more risk because of

877
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: the names that they're talking about bringing in. But I

878
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: will say a Locket's to say, for one, d K,

879
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: if you're looking for a massive breakout potential, how are

880
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: you feeling about that? For you? You're kind of in

881
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: the same boat there. I am. I actually two in

882
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: tags like right on with him. I wrote an article

883
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: this year for a league winner finding a league winner

884
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: in each round, and for round five, my debate was

885
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: between these two Seahawks wide receivers. I ultimately the win

886
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: with Tyler Lockett because I I think him and Russell

887
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: Wilson are the most efficient quarterback wide receiver combo in

888
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: the league. Like two years ago, Russell Wilson had a

889
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: perfect passer rating when targeting Tyler Lockett that is just

890
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: incredible and last year was super high as well. And

891
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: the one concern I have with this offense is are

892
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: they going to let Russell Wilson air it out like

893
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: we all are hoping they they say they are going

894
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: to because the thing every year is all right, well,

895
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: this offense could be great if they just let Wilson

896
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: pass more. If that doesn't happen this year and they're still,

897
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, limiting Russell Wilson's passes every week, I trust

898
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: the efficiency with Tyler Lockett that he's going to get

899
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: his even if the targets are a little bit more

900
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: suppressed than I do with d K. Also, I think

901
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: we're people tend to forget that through the first nine

902
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: weeks last year, Tyler Lockett was the wide receiver three

903
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: and in points per game, he was still in the

904
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: top ten, and then he got hurt and he had

905
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: a leg injury. He didn't miss any time because they

906
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: had the bye week the next week, but he was

907
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: hospitalized with a leg injury. And in the weeks after that,

908
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: his targets went down, his fantasy points went down. He

909
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: had a game where he finished with zero Fantasy points.

910
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: That's just not who Tyler Lockett is. So I think

911
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett the first nine weeks is more who he is.

912
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: But I love both of these wide receivers. I think

913
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: their their prices are fine and both have really sky

914
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: high upside if they do allow Russell Wilson to start

915
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: throwing the ball, you know, six hundred times this year. Yeah,

916
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: I do think that last point that you made about

917
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: Lockett is fair too, but because I think a lot

918
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: of times the last thing we see of a player

919
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: is sort of what we remember of him going into

920
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: the offseason, and what we saw Tyler Lockett at the

921
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: end of last year was really frustrating because he was

922
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: in a pretty big slump, and I think I think

923
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: it's fair to remember who he was earlier in the

924
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: season before the injury happened. So I think that's that's

925
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: a pretty good way to look at it. Time to

926
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: look at some superlatives fantasy wise from the NFC West Division.

927
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: So I'll get both of your opinions, but I'll start

928
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: with you, tags, who do you think is going to

929
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: be the top scoring fantasy quarterback out of the NFC West.

930
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's one of two choices at this point.

931
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna ask you, which of those two choices

932
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: do you think it will be? Yeah, I'm gonna go

933
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. And for all the reasons I talked about

934
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: just saying that I expect this this team to move

935
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: forward to pass attempts, and I know, I know the

936
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: Cardinals want to with Kyler Murray. But at the same time,

937
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: the defense has to take a step forward for that

938
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: to happen, for them to get back on the field.

939
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say, Russell Wilson. All right, Florida, where

940
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: are you going with this one? Wilson or I'm guessing

941
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is the only other real legitimate options, unless

942
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: maybe you think Jared goffred In Garoppolo. I shouldn't. I

943
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: shouldn't limit you like that. Yeah, we gotta be unlimited right, Like,

944
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm gonna go with. Russell Wilson. I

945
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: had these him and Kyler back to back in my rankings,

946
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: but I agree with a lot of what Tags said,

947
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: like if they let him throw more, his upside is

948
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: sky high, and I think he is the safer floor

949
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: of the two, so I do have him one spot higher.

950
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: All right, I'll stay with you, Florida. Then here who

951
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: will be the top scoring fantasy running back out of

952
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: the NFC West. Oh, it's Kennyan Drake for me, and

953
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: that that's a pretty easy one. I really love Drake.

954
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm with Tags with everything he said earlier. Last year,

955
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: the Cardinals running backs were third in fantasy points per

956
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: touch among as teams in the league, behind only the Panthers,

957
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: who CMC obviously pushed that up, and then the Chargers,

958
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: who had Gordon and Ekel are probably the best one

959
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: to running back punch in the league. So that just

960
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: showed you how effective the Cardinals backs were. And it

961
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: didn't matter who the starter was. Last year, it was

962
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: David Johnson. The first six weeks he was averaging almost

963
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: twenty five Fantasy points per game. Uh. Chase Edmonds had

964
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: his cup of Coffee where he was the RB one

965
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: one week and everyone freaked out. And then after that,

966
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake came in and was a top you know

967
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: ten RB. So whoever it was last year, Uh, they

968
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: showed that they want to use one back and that

969
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: that back can be top ten running back in fantasy.

970
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: So I think it's Kenyan Drake pretty easily for me.

971
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: The tax kinda nudge you towards Chris Carson or you

972
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: guys stick with with Drake on this one too. You

973
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: cannot nudge me away from Kenyan Drake because you need

974
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: to tell James co that he's wrong. Uh, James a friend,

975
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: this is true, This is true, but in reality, no,

976
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: it's Kenyan Drake here. Uh. You know Florio mentioned it that,

977
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, it didn't matter who the starting running back

978
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: was if you were to take just the starting running back.

979
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about take the entire roster, just the

980
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: starting running back from all sixteen games from the Cardinals,

981
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: So it was six David Johnson to Chase Edmonds and

982
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: eight Kenyan Drake. Put them together, they would have finished

983
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: as the number three fantasy running back slightly. I think

984
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: it was like two or three points behind Aaron Jones,

985
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: So therefore, I mean you do that, And it's like

986
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake, I think he played, He outplayed David Johnson,

987
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: he outplayed Chase Edmonds. And it's like once he'd be

988
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: once he got uh, once he became part of that

989
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: team and they embraced him as at work coorse running

990
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: back that he actually is, they decided to put the

991
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: transition tag on. That's a lot of money to pay

992
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: running back in one season. But they know they could

993
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: use him, they could abuse him, they could do whatever

994
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: they want. And again, he posted those numbers last year.

995
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: All of them posted that numbers on a team last

996
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: year that was horrifically on defense. So you know that

997
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: the better your defense plays, the more rushing attempts you get,

998
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: the more involved your running backs are gonna get in

999
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: your game plan. All right? Tags, who are your biggest

1000
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: Who's the biggest sleeper or sleepers? Understanding that that word

1001
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: is sort of relative nowadays, but the biggest sleepers out

1002
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: of the NFC West for you, Yeah, Florio, he's still

1003
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: my thunder and I'm not happy about it. Uh. You

1004
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: mentioned Jalen heard earlier, that's my guy. Uh. Before the

1005
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: NFL Draft I mentioned him as a Day three guy

1006
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: to watch where he landed, because I really felt like

1007
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: he was a Day three pick, and the four Nighters

1008
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: obviously took him on Day two in the top of

1009
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: the round three. Uh. He's someone that has flour. I

1010
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: mentioned he started his career as a running back and

1011
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: he didn't switch to wide receiver until his final season

1012
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 1: there and post at a thousand yards is his first

1013
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: year as a receiver. The kid is just a crazy athlete,

1014
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: and this team is lacking players who can basically get

1015
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 1: on the field right now. Brandon i Yuk as you mentioned,

1016
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: coming off surgeries, a rookie, no training camp, and then

1017
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,959
Speaker 1: like that Dievo Samuel not gonna play for a little while.

1018
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: The ball has to go somewhere. And if you're gonna

1019
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: try and find someone that can mimic the way that

1020
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: they use Deebo Samuel in that short passing game, giving

1021
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: him his handoffs, make him create after the catch, Jalen

1022
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: hurts absolutely that guy. So if you're playing in like

1023
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: an eighteen eighteen round redraft league, I think taking a

1024
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: last pick on someone like Jalen heard who By the ways,

1025
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: they're playing Carolina Week one Carolina's defense. I think a

1026
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: lot of people are projecting to be one of the

1027
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: worst in the NFL, so it could be one of

1028
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: those DFS opportunities. You could be getting ahead of your

1029
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: league on the waiver wire. So grab Jalen Hurd uh Floria.

1030
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: Where are you going with this? When you stay with

1031
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: her and you go somewhere else? I like heard a

1032
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: lot and he would probably be my biggest But I

1033
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: can go in another direction. I think when I was

1034
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: talking about most of it in the Niners backfield, I

1035
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: said Hurst, I accidentally said that I meant to Michael Hasty,

1036
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: and I think he's another big sleeper here, just because

1037
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: like last year, the Niners backfield was a revolving door

1038
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: and it ended on most are But I don't think

1039
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 1: that necessarily means that there's no chance that it can't,

1040
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: you know, keep revolving this year and behind most of

1041
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: who comes with you know, the past catching concerns is Coleman,

1042
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: who I think I agree with a lot of what

1043
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: Tag said, has shown that he can't be a bell

1044
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: cow back. He can be efficient in that you know,

1045
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: complimentary role, but I don't think he can handle, you know,

1046
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: any fifteen twenty touches per week. And then there's McKinnon, who,

1047
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: like you said, Marcus, who knows what he is at

1048
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: this point in his career. So after with all those

1049
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: guys having those question marks, I think Hasty comes in

1050
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: then and if he gets that opportunity of that door

1051
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: revolving door lands on him and he you know, has

1052
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: a big game, can run with it. I want anyone

1053
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: who can be the Niners backfield if I'm getting them

1054
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: for very cheap, and Hasty fits that bill. All right.

1055
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: Uh so there's a wrap up the spurlatives, Mike Floria,

1056
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: who will be the most overdrafted player out of the

1057
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: NFC West. It feels bad to say I was debating

1058
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: this one between two guys that we've already spoke about,

1059
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: Hopkins and most there, But I think I'm gonna go

1060
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: with most there, just because I'm fearful that if he

1061
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: if that Niners backfield continues to be like it has

1062
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: been these last couple of years, that we're paying a

1063
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: fifth round price for a complimentary running back who has

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00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: two maybe three other backs that who could get involved.

1065
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: Kyle Huscheck is still gonna, you know, be involved in

1066
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: the passing games. So I'm just worried that that backfield

1067
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: is gonna become really crowded like it has been in

1068
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: years past, and you're not really gonna be able to

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00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: trust most are like like you want, and paying a

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00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: fifth round price, I think is still a pretty steep

1071
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: price to pay. So you're expecting him to start in

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00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: your line up either as an RB two or flex

1073
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: most weeks. Uh tags, Who who's the guy we're reaching

1074
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: for the most out of this division? Yeah, I'm gonna

1075
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: stay that with the running back position, except I'm gonna

1076
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: say the guy that's on a worse offense behind a

1077
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: worse offensive line. And you know, I don't want to

1078
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: say worse coach, but Shannahan, Steve, come on, he's a

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00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 1: running back guy. But you know, can makers we already

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00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: talked about him. He's going in that same range as

1081
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: wheem most at, right around that rby eight range, and

1082
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: that's just that's just too expensive for a guy that's

1083
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: gonna be a four way time share. And honestly, you know,

1084
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: we talked about them spend a second round pick on

1085
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: him this year. Obviously they did, and they did that,

1086
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: you know, kind of ridiculously. They didn't need to do that.

1087
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: They should have addressed their offensive line, but they did that.

1088
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: And last year, we can't forget that Darrell Henderson was drafted.

1089
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: They traded up in the third round last year to

1090
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: get Durrell Henderson. So it's really difficult to say which

1091
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 1: one is gonna be which one's gonna be better. But again, Acres,

1092
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: you can't say that you played behind a bad offensive line.

1093
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: That's why he wasn't good as good to college and

1094
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: post those great numbers. If he's going behind another bad

1095
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: offensive line, then what's the ground to stand on? Uh yeah,

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00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: I look, I've stayed away from the Rams backfield in

1097
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: general just because I just I don't know. And and

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00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh has done nothing to clear it up. Not

1099
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: that it's his job to clear things up for us,

1100
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: but he has not done anything to clear things up

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00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: for us at all. Alright, le rob about the show.

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00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: We do some either oars. I'll give you guys two choices.

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00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: You can use whatever criteria you want to pick between them.

1104
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, just you know, to go too deep

1105
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: into your analysis. Just you know, I'll give you two

1106
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: choices and you pick one of them. So, uh, Mike

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00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: Taglier start with you Darryl Henderson or Tevin Coleman. Give

1108
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: me the unknown Darryl Henderson. All right, Floria, where you going?

1109
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: This was a hard one for me. I get the thinking,

1110
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go with Coleman just because i think

1111
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: he can be the past catching back for the Niners.

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00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: All right, Um, Florida'll start with think this. This may

1113
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: be blasphemy to ask this question, but I'm gonna do

1114
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 1: it anyway. Larry Fitzgerald or Josh Reynolds. Give me Larry Fits.

1115
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: The guy I mean is a Hall of Famer and

1116
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: one of the best of all time, and they're both

1117
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: I think gonna be vying for that wide receiver three role.

1118
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: Fits though maybe can become the water receiver two if

1119
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: he can beat out Kirk. And you know, as those

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00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: two are battling out in the slot, I'm gonna go

1121
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: with Fits there over the unproven Reynolds. All right, you

1122
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: just stick with the old guy for this one. Tags

1123
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: Are you gonna go go younger? No, You're gonna hate

1124
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: me for this, Florio, But I'm gonna say Reynolds just because, again,

1125
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's the level of unknown,

1126
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: because we've seen Josh Reynolds have multiple two touchdown games

1127
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: with the Rams, so that's definitely within the ram of possibilities.

1128
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: And especially if someone like Robert Woods were to miss

1129
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: a game or two, we could plug in Reynolds and

1130
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: know that he's going to get six to eight targets

1131
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: in a game. Larry Fitzgerald is just be real about it.

1132
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: You're never gonna put him in your lineup and be

1133
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: excited about it no matter what happened. No disrespects Larry Fitzgerald.

1134
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: One of the best players I've ever watched play the game.

1135
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: You know, he he approaches it like you know, like

1136
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: he should, a very professional player. But uh, to know

1137
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: that he's the I would say he's the number four

1138
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: in that passing game now, behind DeAndre Hopkins, Christian Kirk,

1139
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: and even Kenyan Drake. Yeah, I do think Jenny Drake's

1140
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: gonna absorbed a lot of targets in that offense of

1141
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: what we saw the last eight games was within the indication.

1142
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: All right, tags, this is did you start with you

1143
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving or Christmas? Oh, it's Christmas. I mean Christmas. Not

1144
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: not only is it that's like Fantasy Championship Week, but

1145
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: I mean Christmas so I write this article called the

1146
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: Primer every week in season, and it's it's like thirty

1147
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: to thirty five thousand words a week, and basically on Christmas,

1148
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: I tell people Christmas is my Christmas in terms of

1149
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: like because that's the last week I write it, because

1150
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: it's week sixteen. Um, Christmas is just the best, man.

1151
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: And then like obviously when you have kids, um, like

1152
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't even enjoy getting gifts anymore. For Christmas. I

1153
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: enjoy watching my kids open their gifts. That's the best.

1154
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: All right, Florida, where are you going with that one? Yeah,

1155
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: it's easily Christmas for me. I like everything Tag said.

1156
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: You know, Thanksgiving you working a bunch and working in

1157
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: football and stuff. But Christmas it's a whole month. Man.

1158
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: It's not just the day, you know, it's just the season,

1159
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: giving gifts, gonna see family and stuff. It's it's usually

1160
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: the time after football season and I get to spend

1161
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: time with my family. Again, It's easily Christmas for me.

1162
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 1: But like ham and Pie, I mean to be fair, Marcus,

1163
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: I could eat Hammond pie today if I wanted to.

1164
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: I can go upstairs and do that. That's that's a fair.

1165
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: That's a fair point. That is a fair point. I

1166
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: would say, is that popular we need to say Thanksgiving

1167
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: food outside of Thanksgiving a little overrated? You might be right, Um, yeah,

1168
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: I do think I do. I do think. What do

1169
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 1: you think that you know there's there's a larger market

1170
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: for like stuffing out there, for dressing, you know, like

1171
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: there's there's a larger market beyond just Thanksgiving. I think

1172
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: we could eat it more often, um than we do

1173
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: just just that one day a year, alright, last one

1174
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: Florio playing or peanut Eminem's. Yeah, I know this is

1175
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: an unpopular pain playing for me. I do not like peanuts.

1176
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: I do not like peanut butter anything like that. So

1177
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 1: get all that away. Do you have a peanut allergy?

1178
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: Because if not, this is the wrong answer. So I

1179
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,439
Speaker 1: do not. But I used to tell people I did,

1180
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: because every time you tell something you don't like peanut butter,

1181
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: they're like, but have you tried this? It's usually Reese's

1182
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: and I'm always like, yeah, many times I just don't

1183
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: like it, and people always are right, but but you

1184
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: have to eat this, and they always give me some

1185
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: sort of peanut or peanut butter. So eventually I just

1186
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: started being like yeam allergic. Sorry, can't eat it. You

1187
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: know it's peanuts. It's peanut eminem's. It's almost like you

1188
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: know if you so, I'm not gonna say that that

1189
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: regular eminem's are bad. It's like thinking about this, right,

1190
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: like if you've only ever had a cheese pizza, pizza

1191
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: is awesome, right, like no matter what pizzas. But but

1192
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: then once you put you know, peperoni on it, it's

1193
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: like a game changer, Okay, and then you put sausage

1194
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: and you're just like, wow, this is really good. I

1195
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: had my uncle introduced me to Italian beef on pizza.

1196
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: I'm from Chicago, so it's like he he gets this

1197
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: on there, right, and I was like, I'm not going

1198
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: to try that. It changed me for a little bit

1199
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: because I had it on pizza, and then it was

1200
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: like every pizza I ordered it had to have that.

1201
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to break that habit. Now. It's like slowly

1202
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: trying to like get back to just like pepperoni, because

1203
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: once you get you once you open up a world

1204
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: of pepperoni and sausage and Italian beef and now peanuts. Yeah, dude,

1205
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: you can't go back. It's just it's so hard to

1206
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: go back. So it's definitely peanut for me. I've never

1207
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: had peanuts on pezza. I had peanut butter on pizza,

1208
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 1: but not actually peanuts. How is that? It's pretty good?

1209
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you don't like peanut butter, so

1210
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like try and convince you to eat it.

1211
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: But you know, like for those of us who enjoy

1212
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: peanut butter, it's surprisingly good. Uh you know, I'm also

1213
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: have peanut butter like on a hamburger. Like it's it's

1214
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: pretty good. Just I'm just throwing that out there. I

1215
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: will say thought like playing I feel like after verst

1216
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: so it's like I think I think plain eminem's are

1217
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: versatile in the sense that, like, I like you, when

1218
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: we could still go to movie theaters, like I would

1219
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: buy popcorn and eminem's and pour them together, and like

1220
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: like I feel like having a peanut eminem would just

1221
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: be a little much. It would just be would be

1222
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: a little extra. H So I think I can. Yeah,

1223
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: I've never done that is good. It's very trastic. Yes,

1224
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: w your pizza trail, when your pizza world got opened up,

1225
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: your movie theater experience is about to take a major

1226
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 1: jump forward. Um whenever we can go back to movie

1227
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: theaters ever again. Uh yeah, Um, guys, I appreciate you

1228
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: coming in, uh and and helping me out and closing

1229
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: out Fantasy Camp. I know that generally folks who watch,

1230
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: who watched this stream, who listened to this podcast, nowhere

1231
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: to find you. But the tags for for those who

1232
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: are maybe uninitiated, where can they find your work? Yeah

1233
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Mike Tagleer nfl um. Yeah. On the

1234
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros Football podcasts. We're there. We're doing five days

1235
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: a week now. So thanks for having Marcus Man. I

1236
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: always I'm so sad that we didn't get to do

1237
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: this in person because you and I just hanging out

1238
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: talking football for a little while, like hanging out, you know,

1239
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: having a couple of those chandies that you were talking about.

1240
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: I and uh, you know. We look forward to next

1241
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: year Man absolutely absolutely, Florial, hopefully you were back with

1242
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: us on a regular basis very soon. But in the meantime,

1243
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: where are you putting up stuff? I will be back

1244
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: with you guys very soon. But the best place to

1245
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: get any of my work is on Twitter at Michael F.

1246
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: Florio to fs in there and then uh I also

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00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 1: right now, I'm hosting every Saturday and Sunday morning six

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Speaker 1: and Fantasy. So if you want more, you could head

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Speaker 1: over there and listen to the show. That's show you're

1251
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Speaker 1: doing with the Scott Engelf. I'm not mistaken, correct, Yes,

1252
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: the King, the King as he likes to call himself,

1253
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: exactly exactly, But hey, I appreciate you guys stopping in

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Speaker 1: and for all of you guys out there as well

1255
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: hanging out with us, we appreciate it as well. We

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