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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a show and Ron will flip. It
Speaker 1: doesn't get any better than that. Unleash the far long time,
Speaker 1: and notice that I'll go with media member because then
Speaker 1: I want to get into the whole argument on whether
Speaker 1: you are a member of the media or not a
Speaker 1: media figure round wolf Lee. You need three things. I
Speaker 1: said three things in your arsenal these days, you're a
Speaker 1: repertoire to be part of the media. Twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: Are you ready? And a mock draft? Do you have
Speaker 1: a mock draft. Wolf, You ain't Jack without a mock
Speaker 1: You've yet to, really, from what I've seen, publish an
Speaker 1: annual mock draft. Paul, I'll never have a mock draft,
Speaker 1: as you all know, but I will mock some drafts.
Speaker 1: A pod. Do you have a podcast? Okay? You know, no,
Speaker 1: you need a pod where you are the expert, the
Speaker 1: unquestioned expert. No one shall question you, the football expert
Speaker 1: on your own pod. That's hence on poly podcast over here.
Speaker 1: So there's number number three would be fantasy football. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: now said, hundreds of millions play fantasy football, and so okay,
Speaker 1: you know, I know you probably still outsource your fantasy
Speaker 1: football team. Can I just say right now? I still
Speaker 1: it is the bane of the National Football League. The
Speaker 1: fact that fantasy football influences a lot of the decisions
Speaker 1: I think that come out of a commissioner's office. Interesting, Well,
Speaker 1: that's a whole nother show. Well it is, Paul, Yes
Speaker 1: it is. I'll get my podcast. You can cover that,
Speaker 1: that's right on your podcast, or you can assemble your
Speaker 1: mock draft Accordingly. I bring all these up because all
Speaker 1: three have one thing in common. What's that belly? All
Speaker 1: revolve around being an NFL decision maker, a personnel decision
Speaker 1: maker to some degree. And with that in mind, guess
Speaker 1: what forget about the two of us, We're bringing on
Speaker 1: the director of a player personnel Drew Grigson will be
Speaker 1: our guest tonight as the Cardinals are coming off rookie
Speaker 1: mini camp and obviously the NFL Draft, and here we
Speaker 1: go with the offseason workouts and straight ahead tea minus
Speaker 1: less than a month until the mandatory mini camp is
Speaker 1: like so on right here in late May. So, PAULI,
Speaker 1: he refreshed my memory here. Didn't we actually have Drew
Speaker 1: Grigson on a couple of weeks ago? A few weeks ago? Right?
Speaker 1: Didn't we have him mine? And didn't he just destroy it?
Speaker 1: And I mean that in a very good way? Yes? So, um,
Speaker 1: here's the game plan, wolf, Less of us, more of Drew. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe make way for him to give more insight, because
Speaker 1: you're right when he was talking, he was excellent. So
Speaker 1: is that what you're saying he does? Should I don't know,
Speaker 1: he's got you know, he's got too many Scotter reports
Speaker 1: to file, but uh yeah, he should put it that way.
Speaker 1: And do we not have questions around here, Are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? Look at last year's first round pick, look
Speaker 1: at this year's first round pick, and you don't have
Speaker 1: to look very far to see where they're going to
Speaker 1: be playing. In fact, Cliff Kingsbury was asked about Isaiah
Speaker 1: Simmons and Zavn Collins. Two really fast trees, which is good.
Speaker 1: But when they line up, they'll when the prettiest linebacker
Speaker 1: due award when they line up side by side him.
Speaker 1: And those are two big, long, athletic cats, and so
Speaker 1: we know there's gonna growing pains obviously, two guys who
Speaker 1: are getting, you know, indoctrinated to the league. Isaiah played
Speaker 1: some last year, but as far as the full time
Speaker 1: starter goes, is to be kind of his first run
Speaker 1: at it. But they're athletic enough to make up for
Speaker 1: some of the you know, experience they don't have, and
Speaker 1: we're excited to grow with them and you know, see
Speaker 1: what they can to come together. Paul, Certainly not the
Speaker 1: terminology I would use. Okay, certainly not that, Paully, But
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now, Cliff Kingsbury's gotta have
Speaker 1: some Texas in them. Just gotta have a little bit
Speaker 1: of Texas the only coaches I've ever heard used pretty
Speaker 1: to describe a football player. They come from Texas, Paul,
Speaker 1: they come from Oklahoma, and they come from Missouri. Those
Speaker 1: three states right there. Man, they love using it. I
Speaker 1: know a coach Paul, one of the most grizzled coaches
Speaker 1: on the face of the planet, A guy that I
Speaker 1: love and respect, a guy that was a very hard coach.
Speaker 1: All all he did was talking about how pretty football
Speaker 1: player looked in uniforms. Right, But he always asked the question,
Speaker 1: now can you play? And that is what matters? Is
Speaker 1: it not? Well? This time here, I don't necessarily mind it.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing if you want to be a mean, rough
Speaker 1: and tough middle linebacker, you probably don't want that as
Speaker 1: your moniker going forward. But when they're only in shorts
Speaker 1: and there's no physicality to speak of, you know there
Speaker 1: can be worse things to be called. Then okay, because
Speaker 1: that's all you're looking at. You're looking at how did
Speaker 1: these guys appear to the eye. You can't truly tell
Speaker 1: if they have game or not. In fact, Zamon Collins
Speaker 1: was asked about his game and what part of his
Speaker 1: game he wants to elevate. You got to elevate all
Speaker 1: your game coming in as a rookie to play at
Speaker 1: this level, you know, no matter where you're at, you
Speaker 1: got to elevate every single part of your game because
Speaker 1: those guys who have been here for four or five years,
Speaker 1: they know way more than you, and they're way better
Speaker 1: than you. They have efficient movement, they have them efficient minds.
Speaker 1: You can see it whenever you watch them, especially on Sundays,
Speaker 1: compared to you know, what we're doing here right now,
Speaker 1: and we just try it as a team, just kind
Speaker 1: of build to get to that. Man. I love the fact, Polly,
Speaker 1: that he was talking about efficient minds. Did you hear
Speaker 1: him right there, Paul? I mean, honestly, that is so
Speaker 1: odd next level, that's so two point zero for a
Speaker 1: rookie right there. I love the fact that it's not
Speaker 1: just about the physicality of it all. We all know
Speaker 1: the game of football is an in your face, physical confrontation,
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. And so much of the
Speaker 1: time when you get a young guy like Zavian Collins Pauly,
Speaker 1: he'll focus on the physical. What I love is just
Speaker 1: listening to him on that cut right there, he's talking
Speaker 1: about the mental and the mind as well. That's huge. Well,
Speaker 1: it wasn't too long ago. Larry Foote went from Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals starting middle linebacker to the linebackers coach the very
Speaker 1: next year. And let's be honest, his last two years
Speaker 1: in the league, how did he get by? How did
Speaker 1: he make plays at an advanced age with high mileage
Speaker 1: on that body, with what he had between the years, right, Wolf,
Speaker 1: Well that he was just one ca Paul. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean he was a step ahead mentally. That's what allowed
Speaker 1: Footy to stay about it Pall. On the field, it's
Speaker 1: the experience of it all, it really is. It's not
Speaker 1: just about knowing what to do. It's not just the
Speaker 1: mentality of it all that matters, Polly. It's the experience.
Speaker 1: It's going out there and actually seeing yourself do it successfully.
Speaker 1: It's the reason why these mini camps, the rookie mini
Speaker 1: camp that has been going on of course the OTAs Paul.
Speaker 1: It's so important that you get it down mentally because
Speaker 1: before you can actually do you have to know what
Speaker 1: to do, and that's gonna take a lot of experience.
Speaker 1: There's going to be some good and there's going to
Speaker 1: be some bad, and that will extend into the season.
Speaker 1: Mark my words, He's not going to get it all
Speaker 1: right all the time, but let's hope he gets it
Speaker 1: right a vast majority of those times. Look, I've said
Speaker 1: this on Cardinals Underground, the podcast that I've talked to
Speaker 1: a number of people who do not expect Jordan Hicks
Speaker 1: to be on this roster when training camp starts. Yes,
Speaker 1: their job appears to be Zavian Collins from the get go.
Speaker 1: And last week here on The Big Red Rage, we
Speaker 1: asked Buddha Baker about what the rookie should expect. The
Speaker 1: biggest challenge he'll probably get is the speed of the game,
Speaker 1: calling him you know guy, He's like you guys, he's seen.
Speaker 1: He's huge, very fast. He thinks of hisself as a
Speaker 1: Brian er Lacker, So it looks like a guy who
Speaker 1: can shoot the gap and you know, play the man,
Speaker 1: plays zone, do the things that we want him to
Speaker 1: do on a defense. So I definitely think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be well in this league. I mean, if er Lacker
Speaker 1: is truly the comp then okay, I get it. Let
Speaker 1: him make mistakes and use his athleticism to compensate. Jordan
Speaker 1: Hicks is limited. He has that ceiling that no matter
Speaker 1: how much he knows, he's always going to be limited
Speaker 1: physically with this athleticism. There's just even though he knows
Speaker 1: to cover the running back out of the backfield, can
Speaker 1: he do it. So there is that upside, obviously, and
Speaker 1: a guy like Zavian Collins who has all the measurables,
Speaker 1: all the athleticism. But then again, there he is, to
Speaker 1: your point, Wolf and he's thinking and maybe he's swimming mentally.
Speaker 1: Thank goodness for three preseason games this year. I can't
Speaker 1: say believe I'm saying thank goodness for preseason games. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be invaluable even though teams are running vanilla schemes.
Speaker 1: I get it. But as soon as Week one starts
Speaker 1: against the Tennessee Titans, he's lined up and he's calling
Speaker 1: that defense, and then he realizes, wait a minute, what
Speaker 1: is Tennessee doing lining up a defensive end at tailback
Speaker 1: because that guy's six three, two fifty and here he
Speaker 1: comes downhill. Yeah, here's a great thing about that, Polly.
Speaker 1: I think that the Tennessee Titans and the Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 1: are gonna see a lot of eight man fronts. I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna see a lot of Buddha Baker down
Speaker 1: in the box. That's the good news. Polly Jaalen Thompson
Speaker 1: maybe playing the center of the field and Buddha Baker
Speaker 1: down as a box safety. We all know how good
Speaker 1: he is around the line of scrimmage. We all know
Speaker 1: how Vans Joseph likes to blitz him as well. I
Speaker 1: think Buddha Baker will be that box safety down there.
Speaker 1: And Buddha is so smart, you know that, Polly so good.
Speaker 1: He's like having another coach. He's the guy who gets
Speaker 1: everybody in the secondary lined up. Boodhoo will be able
Speaker 1: to help. I think Zaven Collins, by being down in
Speaker 1: that box help him with a lot of checks. I
Speaker 1: would imagine Van's Joseph might even lean on Boodho a
Speaker 1: little bit in regard to making sure the rookies getting
Speaker 1: it right. You know, maybe the most telling thing worthwhile
Speaker 1: comment of all a rookie minicamp is when Zaven Collins
Speaker 1: paused when he was asked about preparing and actually able
Speaker 1: to be on a field as opposed to doing it virtually,
Speaker 1: and he shook his head and he said, I don't
Speaker 1: see how you could do this virtually. So that gave me.
Speaker 1: That gave me a lot of encouragement. When it comes
Speaker 1: to Isaiah Simmons, you maybe begin to understand why he
Speaker 1: was behind the eight ball correct and then yeah, so
Speaker 1: you go okay. Hopefully that learning curve was that much
Speaker 1: more difficult for a first rounder who never got on
Speaker 1: the field in the preseason, the word zero preseason games.
Speaker 1: He was thrust into it from Week one against the Niners.
Speaker 1: And we know Kyle Shannon was smart enough to exploit
Speaker 1: that with the Raheem most on the first touchdown, we
Speaker 1: get it. With a back out of the backfield, we
Speaker 1: get all that. But hopefully, hopefully this early season, this
Speaker 1: offseason work is going to be invaluable because just the
Speaker 1: look on Zamon Collins face when he has asked that
Speaker 1: question makes you realize the degree of difficulty those rookies
Speaker 1: are facing in the year twenty twenty one of our
Speaker 1: Lord Paul going forward to the National Football League, I
Speaker 1: can tell you right now that having your Navarro Bowman
Speaker 1: and Patrick Willis, if in fact that's what Zaban Collins
Speaker 1: and Isaiah Simmons turn out to be, that is going
Speaker 1: to be huge for the next decade. A single game
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Speaker 1: what else is in store this offseason. It is the
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Speaker 1: the sixteenth pick in the twenty twenty one NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinal select Zavin Collins, linebacker and Tulsa. I
Speaker 1: got it right here on my phone, told billion Vance.
Speaker 1: I said, starter day one, right here back starter day one.
Speaker 1: You got it big, fast and smarter. Put that on camera. Guys.
Speaker 1: It's been a great day so far. It's gonna be hard, hard,
Speaker 1: dress getting better. Zavin has got a rare size speed
Speaker 1: atalyticism combination, and it actually is a little bit of
Speaker 1: a throwback. Hey bro, just turn it up through your corner.
Speaker 1: Don we go to work, little thing fan, Hey one,
Speaker 1: the little thing. Well, let's go a draft the draft.
Speaker 1: There you go. Good. Hopefully I can go out there
Speaker 1: and just show them I mix happy who everyone says
Speaker 1: I am? Season four, Episode two of Cardinals Flight Plan
Speaker 1: coming our way this coming Monday May twenty four, seven
Speaker 1: pm on the Cardinals YouTube channel. That's YouTube dot com
Speaker 1: slash a Z Cardinals. And we heard it right there
Speaker 1: the GM Steve Kim, the inside the all access from
Speaker 1: the Cardinals war room, first Round Draft night and the
Speaker 1: quote starter day one put that on camera. Oh boy,
Speaker 1: here we go. How about episode two of Drew Grigson,
Speaker 1: the Director of Player Personnel right now and the big
Speaker 1: red rage instead of It's All About You presented by
Speaker 1: Santan Ford and Gilbert, It's all about Drew, mister Grigson.
Speaker 1: How are we doing tonight? Guys? How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 1: We're doing? Good man? How's the body fat right now?
Speaker 1: Deep ball man? Good well? If we don't need a
Speaker 1: lame joke about when he gets around to the big
Speaker 1: weight in the offseason, you're gonna jump in, Okay, none
Speaker 1: of that. There's gonna be no Tim Tebow questions, Wolf,
Speaker 1: no Larry Fitzgerald questions. We're just getting right into it.
Speaker 1: I mean, Drew. If there's one thing I know, PAULI
Speaker 1: pencil neck, it's standing next two NFL players. I've been
Speaker 1: doing it for two decades in the Cardinals sideline. Okay,
Speaker 1: And when I stood next to Zavan Collins at Cardinals
Speaker 1: rookie minicam, I'm like, this guy's the middle linebacker, six
Speaker 1: five two sixty. I pick it up from there. What
Speaker 1: did you see over the three days? That's that's kind
Speaker 1: of the feeling I had when I put on a tape,
Speaker 1: because when I first watched him, you see, you know,
Speaker 1: you see, you see a big man. He's athletic, he's running,
Speaker 1: you know, he plays bath They could you could tell
Speaker 1: right away he's about a four six guy. But then
Speaker 1: you keep going back and forth and looking at it.
Speaker 1: This can't be right. It's six five two sixty because
Speaker 1: you don't you just don't see Mike's or second level
Speaker 1: players that size and especially with that skill set. So
Speaker 1: you know, and and then again you see how big
Speaker 1: he how how broad his shoulders are, how thick he
Speaker 1: is through his lower how just well put together he is.
Speaker 1: And then the athlete he's, he's, he's he's a special player,
Speaker 1: and he's going to be a special player for for
Speaker 1: our organization going forward. And Drew other than the quarterback.
Speaker 1: When you're in shorts and helmets, is it easier to
Speaker 1: evaluate players the further away you get from the ball. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know I would say that, Uh, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a good question. I you know, for for Zaven, he's
Speaker 1: right over it. Uh you know, he's playing Mike, he's
Speaker 1: playing right in the middle, and he's got such a range.
Speaker 1: He's a sideline the sideline player. UM. But you know
Speaker 1: it's it's equal across the board with uh with with
Speaker 1: you know, value player valuating players or whether it's over
Speaker 1: the ball or off the ball, um outside or inside,
Speaker 1: and he's got everyone kind of gets the same same scrutiny.
Speaker 1: So when you hear Steve Kin the GM declare on
Speaker 1: camera and say put it on cameras starter day one,
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury has reiterated that what's the risk reward of
Speaker 1: a rookie at that position from day one? Considering that
Speaker 1: guy in a lot of ways is the quarterback of
Speaker 1: the defense. Oh that that that is the first concern.
Speaker 1: But that concern is was quickly taken away when you
Speaker 1: start interviewing the kid in the year about it the background,
Speaker 1: you start talking to coaching staff there, so you know,
Speaker 1: if we're going to give the kid the green die,
Speaker 1: you know, he's calling the defense for us. He's he's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, setting the front, he's making adjustments. And that's
Speaker 1: one of the first things you noticed out of community
Speaker 1: camp with him was how comfortable he was doing that,
Speaker 1: how quick he was to make adjustments, and how great
Speaker 1: of a communicator he was, which is exactly what you
Speaker 1: want to see, like you said, just on the flip
Speaker 1: side with the quarterback that you want to see and
Speaker 1: that's that's what we saw, was zavn Um. You know,
Speaker 1: these first few practices that that he's had with us
Speaker 1: Um and you know, there's not much you can see
Speaker 1: right now in these practices other than that, and that
Speaker 1: give you a lot of confidence going forward with handing
Speaker 1: the kids, you know, handing him the keys of the car, Drew,
Speaker 1: do you think that Buddha baker Um would be able
Speaker 1: to help him out a little bit in certain situations
Speaker 1: and just knowing how around the box Bood is going
Speaker 1: to be absolutely but you hope he doesn't have to, right,
Speaker 1: you know, with with with Buddha's eyes and his instincts,
Speaker 1: his awareness and his ability to know where everyone needs
Speaker 1: to be here, he'll he will help out. But I
Speaker 1: expect Zaven. I expect Zaven to know where Buddha is
Speaker 1: supposed to be, where JJ is supposed to be, where
Speaker 1: Channel is supposed to be. That you know, that's his job. Again,
Speaker 1: that's why we drafted him, and that's again the confidence
Speaker 1: that we have in him and what we expected him
Speaker 1: going forward. Director of Player Personnel Drew Grigson on the
Speaker 1: Big Red Rage presented by satan Ford and Gilbert. On
Speaker 1: draft night, Michael Bidwell told us from inside the war
Speaker 1: room there was a little bit of anxiety over whether
Speaker 1: Zavin Collins would make it past pick fifteen, and later
Speaker 1: the Patriot shared that if it wasn't for the quarterback
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, z Avan Gollins would have been their guy.
Speaker 1: So take us into the draft night because we haven't
Speaker 1: talked to you about that yet. And you know how
Speaker 1: much consternation was there as it was unfolding. Well, you
Speaker 1: know when when we interviewed Zavan over zoom and he
Speaker 1: hung up, he you know, he pressed the leave button,
Speaker 1: we all looked at each other in the room like,
Speaker 1: oh boy, Like it's almost like we knew that that
Speaker 1: was a guy, that this is going to be a
Speaker 1: consideration at sixteen. And then its evolved and it became
Speaker 1: what it was and that's always in the back of
Speaker 1: your mind as as the guys are falling and we
Speaker 1: start to look at is Zaven gonna get past this
Speaker 1: steam where he's gonna get past this team? And then
Speaker 1: sure enough he fell right to us and we were
Speaker 1: able to pick him. And again we feel great about
Speaker 1: him at sixteen. But I think we got to steal
Speaker 1: at six So has there been in another rookie when
Speaker 1: you think of the rookies and rookie mini camp, has
Speaker 1: there been a rookie that has actually stood out? He's
Speaker 1: the first one that I would just going back to
Speaker 1: everything I said when with his command of the huddle,
Speaker 1: with his command of the defense, his ability to make
Speaker 1: adjustments even before he gets him from vance, I mean
Speaker 1: he is, he's knocking stuff out, you know, vants telling
Speaker 1: me that if he makes a mistake, that's it. It
Speaker 1: doesn't happen again. Um, you know, his his ability to
Speaker 1: h to communicate with the rest of the defense, move
Speaker 1: people around, and be confident doing it. Now. I know
Speaker 1: it's still rookies, but it could be different again when
Speaker 1: he's looking at J. J. Watton and Chandler Jones, Buddha Baker.
Speaker 1: But again I think it was his maturity and the
Speaker 1: respect that he's going to get from those guys who's
Speaker 1: going to be an easy trans Just listening to you
Speaker 1: right there, that really bodes well that this kid is
Speaker 1: doing as well as he is in rookie mini camps. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and again they're still noting a ton at him, but
Speaker 1: just watching him out there. Again, I was, I left
Speaker 1: the first couple of practices to day and wallkay, all right,
Speaker 1: this is this is this, this was pretty good right now.
Speaker 1: So we're at about him, as you know, and having
Speaker 1: him um inside call of defense, uh, with Isaiah next
Speaker 1: to him, and you know, Steve heard Steve mentioned that
Speaker 1: those are those are two gigantic freaks in the middle
Speaker 1: of the field and with two incredible skill sets for
Speaker 1: for a Mike and mow for us. So again, I mean,
Speaker 1: you get a quarterback count the line of scrimmage, there's
Speaker 1: a lot to consider when you see ninety nine and
Speaker 1: fifty five and the two inside linebackers and there's Buddha Bakers.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a lot that Vans has to work
Speaker 1: with there. How About on offense and the round two
Speaker 1: receiver Rondale Moore, you talk about first impressions were like man,
Speaker 1: every day is leg day for this guy. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: Rondale Moore. He looks like a specimen. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and you look at the height on paper and it
Speaker 1: says five seven. I talked him. I was in the
Speaker 1: dining hall with him the other day, and he might
Speaker 1: be five seven. But you saw Paulie. I mean he is.
Speaker 1: He has put together and he has slapped together, and
Speaker 1: he's not a frailed, meek individual. He is a solid
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty five sounds. And he's a kid
Speaker 1: that I've been following at producing day one when he
Speaker 1: stepped down the field against Northwestern in twenty eighteens. My
Speaker 1: brother was a captain at Purdue UH in ninety four,
Speaker 1: so it's a program that I was following, and just
Speaker 1: going back to that that year in eighteen that he
Speaker 1: had it was special. Uh you know college accolades, you know,
Speaker 1: all American teams and trophies, and that doesn't necessarily translate
Speaker 1: to to pro production. But one interesting fact about the
Speaker 1: kid is, I mean he was he was only the
Speaker 1: third player in NCAA history to be a true freshman's
Speaker 1: consensus All American. The only other guys to do that
Speaker 1: were Adrian Peterson and herschel Walker. If that tells you
Speaker 1: anything about that tells you special, that's crazy. So um
Speaker 1: that just again and then he you know, he had
Speaker 1: some injuries going into into nineteen and then the COVID
Speaker 1: year and that threw a curveball to everyone. But we
Speaker 1: know what the kid can do. He's gonna make his
Speaker 1: dynamic inside. He's arguably the best Ronie for catch guy
Speaker 1: in his draft. He was I'm sorry, go ahead and
Speaker 1: finish your thought. Yeah yeah, just when he when he
Speaker 1: and he hits it straight line. It's unbelievable. But this
Speaker 1: kid's ability to move a ladd early and I mean
Speaker 1: he just get teleports. He hasn't just changed directions. It's
Speaker 1: unbelievable to watch. Um, and he's you know, he's he's
Speaker 1: a video game in real life. I heard every one
Speaker 1: of the defensive coaches sat the other day, Uh, you
Speaker 1: know this kid is This kid looks quick and slow motion. So, um,
Speaker 1: I just don't know when that I just I'm excited
Speaker 1: to see him for seventeen games for US. Well, first
Speaker 1: of all, Drew, you know that Pauli's still looking up
Speaker 1: to Rondel Moore. You you do realize that Number one, Hey,
Speaker 1: there's an analytic that he made more guys miss in
Speaker 1: space than any player in the last twenty years. Somebody
Speaker 1: crunched that stat. I don't know where it is, but
Speaker 1: to Drew's point about his ability in space and making
Speaker 1: guys miss anyway, go aheadible no, no, no, Paul, that
Speaker 1: was an excellent addectote right there. All the other rookies
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about, is there one that you went,
Speaker 1: m boy, I like that. Well, you know, when we
Speaker 1: talked last time pre draft, I told you about the
Speaker 1: the kind of guys that we were adding in terms
Speaker 1: of personality and leadership, and we continue that through the draft.
Speaker 1: I'm not just you know, I'm not just saying that.
Speaker 1: He's not just saying that. It's real and those are
Speaker 1: the guys that when we set our one twenty, those
Speaker 1: guys are going to take precedence and then they fall
Speaker 1: to us. We're gonna take him. So. Uh. The Victor T.
Speaker 1: McCage was another guy that adding a big, fix, strong
Speaker 1: outside linebacker. I was excited about. Um, you know, he
Speaker 1: was a he started every single game he played in college.
Speaker 1: I think he was forty six forty seven straight games
Speaker 1: you know, Charlie Bullen and I, Quentin Harris and I
Speaker 1: we went to the pro day. The coaches start talking
Speaker 1: about this guy and you know, they just light up
Speaker 1: the kids all business. They say, is the alpha the group.
Speaker 1: I would actually use the word scary to describe him. So, um,
Speaker 1: you know, no one messages with the guy. So you
Speaker 1: get that alpha personality with a Duke's degree. It's kind
Speaker 1: of rare, you know. So um, he's he's going to
Speaker 1: be a hard, charging ball and muscle for us. He
Speaker 1: just plays with a relentless motor. Reminded me of Marcus
Speaker 1: Golden when I watched him, So I'm excited that right.
Speaker 1: He's got a great last name. When you think about
Speaker 1: a demo, KG, it just it's gonna us sound really
Speaker 1: good and look good on the back of a jersey.
Speaker 1: I have the tough tough to figure out. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're first looking at him, you just call him
Speaker 1: Vic and then you here you have I mean here
Speaker 1: was one factory. They said he bench pressed two twenty
Speaker 1: five thirty two times as a seventeen year old in
Speaker 1: high school. So when you call him a ball of
Speaker 1: muscle and an alpha, yeah, I guess he'd probably started
Speaker 1: getting that reputation in the weight room. What about the
Speaker 1: two corners though, I definitely had an eye when I
Speaker 1: was out there last Friday, Marco Wilson, Tay Gowan. You know,
Speaker 1: if nothing else, just based on the need, what do
Speaker 1: you think can you tell anything about how ready they
Speaker 1: might be? What it was Marco, you know you're getting
Speaker 1: a guy that's got heighth weight speed. He ran well.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw the picture of
Speaker 1: him out jumping the VerTech where he jumped forty three
Speaker 1: inches or something like that. So yeah, we know, we
Speaker 1: know he could run and jump. But he's also a
Speaker 1: you know, a thirty plus game starter in the SEC.
Speaker 1: He's seen three top receiver, He's seen first round draft
Speaker 1: picks weekend and week out. He comes from a football family.
Speaker 1: You know, his dad played at Miami. His brother obviously
Speaker 1: played UM at Florida a few years before him. He's
Speaker 1: a hard worker. He's gonna be a tough outside corner.
Speaker 1: He could play press man. So he's a He's a
Speaker 1: guy that fits us, and he fits us personality wise.
Speaker 1: He's going to contribute Drew personally. What is your favorite
Speaker 1: position to evaluate? Probably linebacker, just having played it. Um,
Speaker 1: I just uh, And that's why I Zavan was such
Speaker 1: a fun one for me to watch again because I
Speaker 1: kept going back and forth like I just I've never
Speaker 1: seen anything like this, um again at at Mike. Um.
Speaker 1: But I you know, I'm sure just as you would
Speaker 1: wal say, you like to look at the at the
Speaker 1: fullbacks and you can find him and you're critical of
Speaker 1: him all you know, he didn't see this, he didn't
Speaker 1: see this, this this pulling guard here and his eyes
Speaker 1: were taking them the wrong way here and so forth
Speaker 1: and songs. I I was enjoyed looking at the linebackers,
Speaker 1: you know, from the outside looking in. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people and we're on board with Drew Griggson,
Speaker 1: director of a a Player Personnel, said, the only box left
Speaker 1: unchecked right now is tight end. Did you see anything
Speaker 1: from the undrafted guys from perhaps the guy the Wolf's
Speaker 1: already named Psycho Bernhard's psycho vets Uh. Do you think
Speaker 1: that's possibly on the radar as a kind time sign?
Speaker 1: Maybe all the above tell us about tight end right
Speaker 1: now in this roster. Well, you know it's it's something
Speaker 1: that we still need to improve. There's no doubt about it. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, we know what uh what we have with
Speaker 1: Max Williams. We have a solid vet is going to
Speaker 1: be very good in the run games. He's going to
Speaker 1: do his thing in the passing game. Um. But after
Speaker 1: that it's you know, it's Darrell Daniels. We know him
Speaker 1: well and we know we're gonna get with him. But
Speaker 1: then it's young and inexperienced. Um. And you know that
Speaker 1: just goes to show you said, we're always going to
Speaker 1: take the best available in the draft because if if
Speaker 1: a Titan's not there, we're not going to reach. And
Speaker 1: there wasn't one available and it's a tough position in
Speaker 1: the draft because it's supplying demand. There's so few. Some
Speaker 1: are good blockers and then they're you know, they're pouring
Speaker 1: the passing game and then vice versa. Very rarely are
Speaker 1: they are. They big, strong, tough, and they they're good
Speaker 1: in both phases. And if they are, if they go
Speaker 1: the first or second round. Um. So there, we didn't
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to draft on. We signed to obviously
Speaker 1: in free agency with Kry Angeline, who is a USC
Speaker 1: transfer went to North Carolina State. Uh, you know, very tall, long,
Speaker 1: very good in the passing game. Athletic. And then Bruno LaBelle,
Speaker 1: who's almost his exact opposite. He's a big body, six four,
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pound kid who's really really good
Speaker 1: in the running game. And then they're they're gonna kind
Speaker 1: of feed off of each other. So um. And then
Speaker 1: even with Bernhard sake of his I've been impressed with
Speaker 1: him already, just with him picking up what we've thrown
Speaker 1: to him so far, he hasn't been swimming in it.
Speaker 1: I thought that's where he would be at this point.
Speaker 1: And you know, with that allocation, we may have gotten
Speaker 1: lucky with that one true has Iver been a player
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals? You wrote off while you watched him
Speaker 1: in shorts and helmet, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: when he put the pads on, you said, oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: what where has this been? Have you ever come across
Speaker 1: a guy like that? Good? Good question. And one of
Speaker 1: the things I try to ignore across the league is
Speaker 1: any type of chatter going on right now or even
Speaker 1: into camp when you know when it's just helmets, well,
Speaker 1: if you know, you know everyone is separated, you know,
Speaker 1: if it's the separation of the men, you know when
Speaker 1: when that shoulder pads and the helmets go on that
Speaker 1: we find out, you know, that's what separates the men
Speaker 1: from the boys. So um, I try to avoid getting
Speaker 1: too excited about anything in training camp. That's why again
Speaker 1: I said, you get excited about with Jesevin's communication and
Speaker 1: his ability to make adjustments right now and jes See
Speaker 1: and Rondale move around and snatch the ball out of
Speaker 1: the air. We don't know anything until those guys pad
Speaker 1: up um because it's obviously it's a different game when
Speaker 1: you know Victor t mcage's coming off the line and
Speaker 1: he can run through your midline and push into the
Speaker 1: quarterback as opposed to you know, just dancing around in
Speaker 1: shorts and jerseys right now. Though, yes, well, Drew, we
Speaker 1: appreciate the insight and uh, I tell you it fires
Speaker 1: us up. And uh, you know, we don't say it.
Speaker 1: We didn't say it in the past till we lost it.
Speaker 1: We didn't appreciate it till we didn't have any longer.
Speaker 1: But thank goodness for training camp in preseason games because hey,
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys who need the experience, and
Speaker 1: b we can't wait to see him on the field
Speaker 1: before September. So we appreciate the time in the insight tonight. Absolutely, guys,
Speaker 1: thank you, Yeah, thank you, Drew. Really appreciate it right there.
Speaker 1: I wonder how many reps he'd get at two twenty five, Paul,
Speaker 1: how many reps do you think Drew would get at
Speaker 1: two twenty five? You know, I'm going thirty three. You know, Wolf,
Speaker 1: you don't have to ask these questions. You can actually
Speaker 1: show up in the weight room once in a while
Speaker 1: and actually a few it for yourself. You know, you
Speaker 1: keep wondering from afar. Oh, I don't let you show
Speaker 1: up in the weight room. Drew. Thank you, man. We
Speaker 1: appreciate you, Love you, bro. Talk to you later, all right, guys,
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Good night. Yeah, you know, Wolf, every day
Speaker 1: was biceps day when he was a player. Fact with
Speaker 1: Moore on the Big Red Rage right after this pleasure
Speaker 1: down it is it hicked up in the air. Then
Speaker 1: the other way with it is JJ watt and he
Speaker 1: is going to go eighty plush yards with a touchdown
Speaker 1: fall of street next the round and it's good trophy.
Speaker 1: Want to pick up running in it to the fluty
Speaker 1: to the thirty to the dry He's gone touchdown. What
Speaker 1: can he do? Portal for time UK. Here comes walk
Speaker 1: and he brings that portal to the end. Zide. J J.
Speaker 1: Watt with the sack looking up from behind. Here comes
Speaker 1: one and second time he has gotten to the quarterback
Speaker 1: Stafford back in the past. Books comes out upside intercepted
Speaker 1: by J. J. Watt and he's gonna take it in
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. Conversation with Zach Allen, Cardinals third year
Speaker 1: defensive lineman last month round Wolfley. Here we are on
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage Special thanks to Drew Grigson for
Speaker 1: Join US Director of Player Personnel. I'll brought to you
Speaker 1: by Santan Ford and Gilbert and Zach Allen says he
Speaker 1: still has those moments when he gets text messages from
Speaker 1: JJ Watt where he looks at his phone and he
Speaker 1: pauses and it's sort of surreal because he grew up
Speaker 1: and he attended Boston College watching all of JJ Watts's
Speaker 1: film when he was a three time NFL Defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year, and now JJ Watts Texas saying, what's up, bro,
Speaker 1: how's it going? PAULI, It's like me when I was
Speaker 1: collecting Walter Payton's cards. Walter Payton, the greatest running backup
Speaker 1: all time. Walter Payton is I was twelve years old
Speaker 1: when he came into the league. I'm collecting his cards.
Speaker 1: Suddenly my locker is next to his in the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Wow? Blew my mind. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: there you go. JJ Wat little highlight montage courtesy ar
Speaker 1: Jim Almahundro. And look, we heard Drew Grigson, and he
Speaker 1: ought a lot of great things to say, the things
Speaker 1: you want to hear, at least when it comes to
Speaker 1: Zavan Collins said, guess what the things that you can
Speaker 1: see during a rookie minicamp and that matter he excelled at,
Speaker 1: like setting the front and making the adjustments and communicating
Speaker 1: like he should because they're going to give him the
Speaker 1: green dots as Drew said. He even went on to
Speaker 1: say they got to steal the Arizona Cardinals at sixteen.
Speaker 1: Then he talked about ron Dale Moore. Probably the quote
Speaker 1: of the whole interview was what was it he doesn't
Speaker 1: move laterally, he teleports teleports Polly. That was great an eye.
Speaker 1: So it leads us to the following question. Other than
Speaker 1: JJ Watt and Zaven Collins, who are you most excited
Speaker 1: to see when training camp gets going two months from now.
Speaker 1: So PAULI are we talking about the free age and
Speaker 1: newcomers here? Is that what we're talking anybody? Okay? JJ
Speaker 1: can I can I say Rodney Hudson. Rodney Hudson, PAULI right.
Speaker 1: I think Rodney Hudson epitomizes excuse me, I think everything
Speaker 1: that this team culturally needs to become. I listen, He's physical, Paul,
Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson is a physical center. He's smart, he's tough,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna bring so much leadership to that locker
Speaker 1: room right there. This is where the Arizona Cardinals I
Speaker 1: think need to get better culturally. They need to get
Speaker 1: more physical, smarter, tougher, with better leadership inside that locker him.
Speaker 1: I think he embodies. He epitomizes all of what the
Speaker 1: Cardinals need to collectively become. Polly, that's a great pick.
Speaker 1: I'll go with two other names. I'll go one just
Speaker 1: because they need it. Robert Alford. I mean we had
Speaker 1: an argument. You know, I didn't want to go all
Speaker 1: Skip Bayless with a hot take, but I said, the
Speaker 1: key to two twenty one is named Robert Alfred. If
Speaker 1: you're telling me he's a legitimate number two corner. If
Speaker 1: you're telling me he can stay healthy and actually regain
Speaker 1: the form we saw in two thousan nineteen and two
Speaker 1: twenty and I know everybody now he hasn't played a
Speaker 1: fully healthy season since two thousand and seventeen. But if
Speaker 1: he can show if he can somehow be that guy,
Speaker 1: think of how far that'll go. And you don't have
Speaker 1: to rely on the youth and an experience, which from
Speaker 1: all indications, you know one of your top three corners
Speaker 1: is going to be mighty inexperienced. Right now, if Robert
Speaker 1: Alpherd doesn't come through, right, it's a good point, Bully listen.
Speaker 1: I would also have to say Kyler Murty, I would
Speaker 1: also have to say it, and not because he's going
Speaker 1: into year three. Remember last year, Paul, everyone was talking about, oh,
Speaker 1: year two, and you know Pat Mahomes won the NBA
Speaker 1: pay and year two and Lamar Jackson wanted to remember
Speaker 1: all that talk, the narrative surrounding Kyler Murray going into
Speaker 1: year two. I don't want to go into the whole Well,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen made huge strides in year three, right, Paul,
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about that. What about Baker Mayfield. Oh,
Speaker 1: here we go. So you're gonna fall into the narrative.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk about Paully. I started
Speaker 1: this narrative in January. Go ahead, you did start it,
Speaker 1: and you know what, we're gonna finish it right here
Speaker 1: on Big Red Rage, Paul Um Kyler Murray. I just
Speaker 1: I have this feeling, Paul. It's a weird feeling. It's
Speaker 1: it's strange, and I mean this, you know, Paul, I
Speaker 1: I don't talk to anybody over there. I haven't talked
Speaker 1: to anybody. I want my thoughts to be my thoughts.
Speaker 1: So when I'm wrong, I'm just flat out wrong. And
Speaker 1: I don't offend to anybody over there, right, Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: I just have this feeling this offense is gonna morph
Speaker 1: into something. And what that something is I don't know, Paul.
Speaker 1: It's going to have elements of the air rate, it's
Speaker 1: gonna have elements of what Cliff Kingsbury is so pronounced
Speaker 1: at and what he knows so well. But I think
Speaker 1: that Cliff is going to incorporate if I don't, if
Speaker 1: I'm not missing the mark here, I think he's going
Speaker 1: to incorporate, PAULI some more traditional elements into the offense
Speaker 1: and use that brilliant mind that he has to actually
Speaker 1: freshen up more traditional sets and personnel groups and plays.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see something different in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: and I want to see Kyler Murray in that different part,
Speaker 1: all right. So in between Kyler Marine, Zavian Collins, the
Speaker 1: first rounder Isaiah Simmons, and you could easily name him
Speaker 1: because we didn't see a whole bunch of him last year.
Speaker 1: And when we did see him, he did things like
Speaker 1: lead the team in tackles at Seattle with tend and
Speaker 1: have a sack Okay Cam Newton yep and so, and
Speaker 1: the big pick in overtime to seal that win against
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. But here's what Jim trot Or, a longtime
Speaker 1: NFL insider, had to say on what he told Vance
Speaker 1: Joseph or what Advanced Joseph told him recently about Isaiah Simmons,
Speaker 1: and speaking to defensive coordinator Vans Joseph recently, they are
Speaker 1: expecting a lot more. In fact, Vance told me he said, look,
Speaker 1: he's comfortable at outside linebacker, he's comfortable rushing the passer.
Speaker 1: We even used him at safety for two games. But
Speaker 1: the one area we want to work with him on
Speaker 1: this year is playing inside linebacker behind that line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: in the run game and in the dime package. They
Speaker 1: are expecting a huge improvement from Isaiah Simmons this year. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go, Paul Yats. Yes, what happened to Isaiah
Speaker 1: Simmons last year? The Cardinals are not going to allow
Speaker 1: to happen to Zavian Collins this year. And by that,
Speaker 1: I mean the worst thing happened Isaiah Simmons a year
Speaker 1: ago was Davondre Campbell, a veteran who was better than
Speaker 1: the rookie. Yes, so this year they're making darn sure,
Speaker 1: are they not? Ron Wolfley. This is just my observation
Speaker 1: that there's no impediment, there's no obstacle, there's no viable
Speaker 1: option to beat out Zavan Collins this year, right because
Speaker 1: that guy has been granted permission to seek a trade. Yes, absolutely, Paully.
Speaker 1: And again it's these two young guys in the middle
Speaker 1: of the field right now. It's so critical if in
Speaker 1: fact you can find you can identify two human beings
Speaker 1: that can actually play that Mike and that mo backer
Speaker 1: on the week side, the week side inside linebacker. If
Speaker 1: you can do that, Paul, and you can leave these
Speaker 1: two guys on the field for three downs, three down backers,
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Paul, what a huge advantage that is.
Speaker 1: You heard me talking about Navarro Bowman and Patrick Willias Willis.
Speaker 1: You've heard me talk about that in the past, Luke, Keekley,
Speaker 1: Thomas Davis. It's such a massive advantage when a defense
Speaker 1: can do that. That's why if these two guys develop,
Speaker 1: it's going to be the best trend defensively that Cardinals
Speaker 1: could possibly have, in my opinion, will be Zaven Collins
Speaker 1: and Isaiah Simmons and staying on the field for three downs, Paul,
Speaker 1: and I just don't want to see him. I don't
Speaker 1: want to see him on the edge. I don't want
Speaker 1: to see him out there. I don't want to see
Speaker 1: him in the slot. I don't want to see it.
Speaker 1: I want to see him off the ball. And that's
Speaker 1: why I was really glad to hear that gentleman say
Speaker 1: what he just did off the ball playing the week
Speaker 1: side inside linebacker. You know what else you want? Ron
Speaker 1: Wolfley is a bonus player that I'm most excited to
Speaker 1: see in two twenty one, Thanks for asking or less
Speaker 1: of you, AJ Green. If you're bullish and AJ Green,
Speaker 1: you say, nobody had fewer on targets right at fewer
Speaker 1: passes thrown, they were catchable last year than AJ Green.
Speaker 1: And when they were on target, guess what he caught
Speaker 1: him in traffic. Now, if you're critical of AJ Green
Speaker 1: a year ago, you say, you know what. The ankle
Speaker 1: is never right, the foot was never right. He didn't
Speaker 1: get much separation. However, what's intriguing to me is I
Speaker 1: was talking to Carlos Dansby recently wolf as a name
Speaker 1: drop again. Yes, he said he's never practiced with any
Speaker 1: player who practiced harder than AJ Green. He said, the
Speaker 1: dude balls out in practice. And he said, once you
Speaker 1: get him off the turf, Carlos is left the fifteenth
Speaker 1: former Bengal to say, once you get him off the
Speaker 1: turf and you get him onto the real grass, lookout.
Speaker 1: For that reason, AJ Green is definitely on my list.
Speaker 1: We continue with a big red rage. Within the one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty sixth pick in the twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals selected Marco Wilson, cornerback Florida
Speaker 1: smart player too, and that's what they value. Rundale Moore
Speaker 1: graduated for DW in two and a half years and
Speaker 1: Davan Collins was a high school valedictorian. Marco Wilson aptitude
Speaker 1: test off the chart, smart player with the of course
Speaker 1: athletic Adrilona. Yeah, he should be known for more than
Speaker 1: throwing the shoe against lshoe. He's a good player, trained
Speaker 1: by his father who was a college defensive back. His
Speaker 1: brother Quincy Wilson also in the NFL. Good bloodlines, good intellect.
Speaker 1: What's that line from the movie? Look, you know, football
Speaker 1: and crab cakes, that's what Maryland does. Well, guess what
Speaker 1: football and cornerbacks. That's what the Wilsons do, whether it's
Speaker 1: Dad as a cornerbacks coach, whether it's the brother or
Speaker 1: a round to pick Quincy Wilson, Marco Wilson a round
Speaker 1: four pick of the Arizona Cardinals. It is the final
Speaker 1: segment here, the Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford
Speaker 1: and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley
Speaker 1: our special guest. Earlier, the Director of Player Personnel Drew Grigson.
Speaker 1: He was talking about the measurables and how he out
Speaker 1: jumped the VerTech the vertical jump measurement system and if
Speaker 1: you believe the next gen stats to give him a
Speaker 1: ninety nine athleticism score. Marco Wilson the likes of a.
Speaker 1: Todd McShay said, you know what, terms of the talent
Speaker 1: and the measurables, he's at worst a day two picks.
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna take a flyer on a corner
Speaker 1: in round four, how about a guy with a lot
Speaker 1: of upside and that appears to be Marco Wilson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that belly. Did you say you had a
Speaker 1: forty two inch vertical? Is that what you say? It
Speaker 1: was forty three point five? Oh okay, Paul I had
Speaker 1: a thirty two inch just for the record, right there, Paully.
Speaker 1: But you know what, it's interesting when you think of
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks. Of course, some of the young guys that
Speaker 1: are coming in here. It makes me think of Robert
Speaker 1: Alford and Malcolm Butler and Byron Murphy, Paully. It's not
Speaker 1: just about Marco Wilson Wilson, I should say, and Tay Gowan,
Speaker 1: of course, it's not just about these young guys and
Speaker 1: how they're gonna come in and develop. To me, I'm
Speaker 1: very interested to see how those three corners, in particular,
Speaker 1: how they mash because think about this, Paully. In the
Speaker 1: National Football League right now, eleven personnel in first and
Speaker 1: ten situations. Guess what is the number one personnel group
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Eleven personnel, Paul. That's one back,
Speaker 1: one tight end, three wide receivers. That is the number
Speaker 1: one personnel group on first and ten in the National
Speaker 1: Football League. What does that mean? Well, you know what,
Speaker 1: if in fact you've got Zaven Collins and Isaiah Simmons
Speaker 1: as you're every down linebackers, If in fact you're gonna
Speaker 1: go with a four to nickel front against that eleven personnel,
Speaker 1: that means you better have three corners, three corners that
Speaker 1: are going to be able to go out there and
Speaker 1: play in lockdown in man coverage. Robert Alfred of course,
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler a guy that I absolutely love. When you
Speaker 1: talk about a dog, we all know about his past,
Speaker 1: we all know about how he likes to walk up
Speaker 1: and jam receivers as well. Byron Murphy. As the slot corner,
Speaker 1: you've got Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson. I think those
Speaker 1: will be your safeties in that situation. But that's gonna
Speaker 1: be huge, Paulie, how those three corners play, especially in
Speaker 1: press man covered something vance. Joseph loves to play quarter
Speaker 1: coverage as well, which is a forty zone. They love
Speaker 1: to employ these techniques. It's going to be critical how
Speaker 1: those three corners in particular play, PAULI. Now that means, hey,
Speaker 1: who knows, Tay Gowan might surprise, might shock everybody. Marco
Speaker 1: Wilson the same way. But typically there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: learning curve there, Paul. So I'm focusing on those three
Speaker 1: guys in particular, and it makes sense absolutely. Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 1: did share they consider Marco Wilson an inside or outside guy.
Speaker 1: You go inside on the side, he could go press
Speaker 1: man outside, as Drew Grigson said the same thing. Take
Speaker 1: Gallan more of an outside corner. And you remember Wolf
Speaker 1: last week on the Big Red Rage, we asked All
Speaker 1: Pro safety Buddha Baker about the two young corners. Definitely
Speaker 1: excited to see what those guys can do. First and foremost,
Speaker 1: we're going to see him on the field and you know,
Speaker 1: helped them out however we can. But for me being
Speaker 1: a dB, being a safety. I'm definitely gonna have to
Speaker 1: give him the cause, help him out whatever they need
Speaker 1: help with. And I have a lot of we have
Speaker 1: a lot of faith in g Money, the corners coach
Speaker 1: over there. I'm excited to see what these guys can do.
Speaker 1: There you go, Buddha Baker. And by the way, Gee
Speaker 1: Money was our guests recently on the Big Red Rage,
Speaker 1: Greg Williams, the cornerbacks coach, and we asked him about
Speaker 1: Marco Wilson, right and what he needs the most. And
Speaker 1: here was the corners coach. As we watched him, we
Speaker 1: knew that he had talent, you know, he had he
Speaker 1: has a skill set just like some of the other
Speaker 1: elite corners that went earlier in the draft, and it's
Speaker 1: just a matter of getting consistent and then we think
Speaker 1: that he has that in him, so we think the
Speaker 1: best ball is ahead of him. You know what I
Speaker 1: remember about Greg Williams in that conversation even more Paully,
Speaker 1: was when he said confidence was the key, right, the
Speaker 1: number one thing that a corner needed, Polly was confidence.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine, I mean, there you are, You're out
Speaker 1: there on the island by yourself, Paul, and you're looking
Speaker 1: across the way, and that's DeAndre Hopkins. Okay, Paul would
Speaker 1: just say DeAndre Hopkins one of the best wide receivers
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Yes, asked the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: Pail Murray. Yeah, that's right, Paul, I mean right, honestly,
Speaker 1: Julio Jones, whatever it may be, can you imagine you've
Speaker 1: got him in man cover and maybe you know you're
Speaker 1: not going to get any safety help over the top
Speaker 1: on this play. Oh baby, you better have more than
Speaker 1: a monicum of confidence if you want to be able
Speaker 1: to hold up in those situations. And when I think
Speaker 1: of rookie corners, I think they come in with a
Speaker 1: lot of swag. But how's that confidence going to be
Speaker 1: week four, week five when they get burn him from
Speaker 1: time to time. Well, he was a starter from day
Speaker 1: one as a true freshman at Florida going against SEC receivers.
Speaker 1: The only other corners to do that in Florida history
Speaker 1: Joe Hayden, Genores Jenkins, and Marcus Roberson. Think about that,
Speaker 1: they could play and then take Allan he likes to
Speaker 1: call himself Gowan Island. Well, you know what, I don't
Speaker 1: mind that because of the confidence factory and Greg William said,
Speaker 1: you know he has the work ethic to back it up. Okay,
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