1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Celebrity Book Club. Who's that knocking at the door. It's 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: all your friends, your filthy horse. Your husband's gone, and 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: we've got books and a bottle of wine to kill. 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: It's books, it's gossip. I'm shook, it's memoir, It's Martini 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Clebri book Club. Come read it while it's hot. Celebrity 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: book Club, tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. 7 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: No boys are alloud. Celebrity Book Club, say it loud 8 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: and cloud Celebrity book Club. Buzz Man. I brought the 9 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: queer foe hey best friend. That is upon Matosta Esquire 10 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: PhD CFP certified. What is up? Stephen Phillip's horse, also 11 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: known as the hyphen because you come from parents who 12 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: are working parents from the eighties, second wave feminism, working mothers, 13 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: working father father, My mama keeping her name in the bloodline, 14 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: not giving it away to a man. No thank you, 15 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: she said. It's going in the mother freaking middle. That's 16 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: in the middle. Welcome in the middle. Um, Today is 17 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: going to be a revelation. It's going to be a 18 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: fucking wake up call. Um for many You might you 19 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: might feel hurt. Yeah, but get back on the horse. 20 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: I don't buy a horse. And this is this is 21 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: meant to be a healing process for all of us, 22 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: for listeners and hosts alike. Um, we of course are 23 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: talking about a subject that can hurt, a subject that 24 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: has ended marriages, a subject that people have gone to 25 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: war over for many, many millennia, A subject that may 26 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: have you feel like there's no way out I am stuck. 27 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: A subject that can also be super liberating if you 28 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: or I don't know, burn wretch. So obviously we're talking 29 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: about finance, and not just finance. We're talking about basically 30 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 1: one of the bibles out of finance, written by lesbian 31 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: financial advisor Sues Armor and her book which is called 32 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: Young Fabulous and Broke. Its I just called the money 33 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: Book for the Young, Fabulous and Broke. But yfb is 34 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: is kind of a phrase shee coin. And of course 35 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: we thought, you know, because listen, at the end of 36 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: the day, while Lily and I are both actually sort 37 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: of fun financial planners, we thought, why not bring someone 38 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: who has a little bit more knowledge the table, who's 39 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: such an acrobat in this space, you know, someone who 40 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: has been doing the dance for years, a clown and 41 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: an acrobat. Someone Yeah, a pioneer. I hear her chiming 42 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: in right now from a little street called Wall Street. 43 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: It's someone who is the ex wife of Warren Buffett. 44 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: She's been called the raging Bull of financial meme accounts. 45 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: She of course, is our longtime friend, collaborator, former lover mistress, 46 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: skincare guru, financial pop star. She is married to the 47 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: freaking dow Let's say it together. Let's say it together. Hey, 48 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: Hayley Sacks a ka missus dow Jones. I just went public. 49 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: I P I p oh, I p oh I P 50 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: S and D nasdak DOWDD. Just let you know where 51 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: we're sort of starting. Yeah, yeah, So this is the 52 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: sort of levels of financial literacy that we're at. So 53 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: Lily has put a lot of money in the S 54 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: and D and that's going to be a problem for her. 55 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: We'll we'll understand. Why can I ask I said something 56 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: about I said lots of about cfp's earlier. Are you 57 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: a CFP? No? Because as not to pry, but I've 58 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: done a lot of the classes. Okay, and um, you're 59 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: in training. I'm in training. But you know, the business 60 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: sort of took off right as I was. You know, 61 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: the business of just generally being Yes, and you know 62 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: I've been launched my university. I have my money. One 63 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: O one course. Wow. Do you have to be a 64 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: certified CFP to have a course? No? Nope? Yeah write 65 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: it on up. Yeah, so I said, instead of learning, 66 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: let me teach, because the best teachers are students. Do 67 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: you think John Harvard was a CFP when he founded 68 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: Harvard University? I don't think so, absolutely not. He was 69 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: just a guy with a dream. Do you think mister 70 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: Wells Fargo read Susie Orman's book before he started Wells Fargo. 71 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: I don't think so. And it shows it's chaos over there. Yeah, 72 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: that's just what they need. They just need this book. Yeah, 73 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: they need to sit down and really rail through it. Um. So, yeah, 74 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: we read this sus Ormond book and wow, it was 75 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: it was a journey. It was a dream. It was 76 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: really it was a dream and a journey. And I 77 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: do wish I read it ten years ago. But whatever, 78 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: she still counts thirty beep as young, broken, fabulous. I 79 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: think it's thirty five. Okay, No, I think she's twenties 80 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: and thirties. Yeah, but I don't think Yeah, I think 81 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: she meant like thirty five, it's the cutoff. Yeah, forties, 82 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,559 Speaker 1: she doesn't have a book for you, she said, middle 83 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: aged broke and oh not so fabulous. Yeah she is, 84 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: although she's like, if you're forty, reading my other books, yeah, 85 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: she's like, and she has a few, she has tons, 86 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: She's got something for everyone. But I felt, yeah, I 87 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: was like, this feels to me like her kind of 88 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: superstar book. And I was interesting reading it because I realized, 89 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: like pretty shortly into it that it was for people 90 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: who were really broke, which I like, so at the 91 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: very meaning the book, she basically lays out the criteria 92 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: for what it actually means to be broke, and like, 93 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: this is not that friend of yours who's like, oh, 94 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm so cash poor, right yeah, asad rich. Yeah, it's 95 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: like being broke actually means like you are leaving paycheck 96 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: to paycheck, you have a lot of student loans, Like 97 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: you have no family money, No one could, no one 98 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: is supporting you, no cushion, Like you're fucked. If you 99 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: ever like suddenly have to pay a h a ton 100 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: of money, you're like you are your own like bank, 101 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: and the only way that you can make money is 102 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: just like having a job right, which, as we all know, 103 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: they don't pay much. They really don't know. They certainly 104 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: don't because like, so I'll start up, I'll say I would, 105 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: I would say I've never been broke. I will just 106 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: put that out there and like Sprave, thank you so much. 107 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: And you know, but you've definitely been the girl that's like, 108 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: I have no cash. And when you say I have 109 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: no cash, it means you haven't gone to the ATMA. Really, 110 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: I literally have no cash. I mean there have been times. 111 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: And I say that because like a agan, I'll just 112 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: say it, I was sort of born like I do 113 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: want to say rich in this way. No, you know, 114 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: you live at the Ritz Carlton in Boston, and you 115 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: didn't always live at the Ritz. You lived in a 116 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: suburb of Boston before that. Okay, yeah, that I'm commuting 117 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: to Dumbo from the love that. Let's put that wild 118 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: rumor to the Hellie. Man, that's allis work done at 119 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: the the Hellie and the Ritz at Boston. That's such 120 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: a Boston commune to Hella had from Dumbo to Boston 121 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: because Dumbo's pretty Boston. But it's worth it. It's worth it, 122 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, the quality of life in Boston is just 123 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: so much better. It's so high, the access to culture, 124 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: to restaurants, I mean the harbor alone, the views, the 125 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: charles and your family's there. Yes, and I love hanging 126 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: out with my parents. But I will say, so ir 127 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: been broke. So this book was like okay, like not 128 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: for me, but fun to read. Well, No, first of all, 129 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff in here that is useful. Yes, 130 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: there's also stuff in here that I would say, like, 131 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: we're very lessons that I actually think I kind of 132 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: have applied somewhat throughout my twenties because I will say, like, 133 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: I've never been broke, because I've always had a cushion, 134 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: like I got the Grandma money. But of course throughout 135 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: most of my twenties now it's like my income was 136 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: very low for many many years, and like starving artists 137 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: vibes starving artist when I worked in politics, like I 138 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: think we all know, oh, I mean, people don't make 139 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: a lot of money in polms. You were paid in 140 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: hand touches and butt squeezes. I wish I never got 141 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: fond old and it's my biggest regret I know. And 142 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: I worked at David Letterman. He never tried a damn thing. Yeah, 143 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: why is he gonna get canceled? I'm kind of waiting 144 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: for that. Oh no, no he did like have a 145 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: baby with someone. No, he did get canceled, but then 146 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: he came right on back and he the beer with 147 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: his big indie beard, indie beer, the kind of bear 148 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: that says, I go down on girl. Yeah, I love 149 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: that beard is. So I liked to pleasure a yea 150 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: for hours. Ye I don't want her to reciprocators, want 151 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: her to enjoy herself. People say that you're always like ours. 152 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: Can we maybe just up there reading young fibulism broke? Yeah, No, 153 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: at a certain point, I'm just thinking about that. Definitely 154 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: wants hers too, like if you're you know, she wants 155 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: you on both sides to get their's well sus who 156 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: have so much, because she says she never gets penetrated. 157 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: But that's we should get into that later. Well, we'll 158 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: get into that later and segments, because yeah, she came 159 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: out of a lesbian which is like huge for her 160 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: and it's huge for the whole community. Right, so she's 161 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: the top, but to quickly just let's finish just like 162 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: where everyone is. Lily, would you describe yourself as broke 163 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: or having been broken the past. Yes, and I am 164 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: someone a kind of yeah, I feel like definitely heavy 165 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: on the fabulous. I would say broke for most of 166 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: my adult life. These past few years, I have not 167 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: been broke past two years, and I have learned a 168 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: lot of the lessons that sus is talking about, and 169 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm learning to fix those mistakes. I'm also someone who 170 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: was born into priv probably not as much as Steven, 171 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: but absolutely you know, born parents, doctors, therapists, right, private 172 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: school right. And then yeah, there's a lot of stuff 173 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: I relate to in this book. All the part about 174 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: how you're lance is fucked up financial behavior like infects 175 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: you for the rest of your life. Yeah, so kind 176 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: of that parts, and a lot of stuff about living 177 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: wills versus trusts and probate court and to quote my mother, 178 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: which she'll agree with Susan here she says, one of 179 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: the main things in a lasting relationship is to be 180 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: able to communicate financially. It's it's I always say it's 181 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: you have to have sexual compatibility obviously, like emotional compatibility, 182 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: but financial compatibility is so important too, and it's not 183 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: talked about. And I think those inform the other. I 184 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: think if you were like fighting about finances, that will 185 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: affect the sexual and the emotional compatibile because you don't 186 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: trust the person. But you know what, I have a 187 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: series on my Instagram about financial secrets. It's like every 188 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 1: time I post it's people tweet about They're like, my 189 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: favorite part of the week is when missus dow Jones 190 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: like exposes people for like hiding like one hundreds of 191 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars from their spouses. I'm always shocked when 192 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: you post those, and I love that you do. And 193 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: this is why again, I'm so happy him the conversation 194 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: because I've always tried to be really honest about money, 195 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: and I think it's really important to just be like, 196 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: this is how much I make, this is how much 197 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: I have, this is how much my rent is. It's 198 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: just like, let's just put that other people or your parents, 199 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: like I feel like even like our oh, but our 200 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: parents are also like throws line to us. I'm not 201 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: telling us that nobody isn't that so weird. I didn't 202 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: mean to interrupt you, but I just find that, like 203 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: our genera region is so much more transparent. I owe 204 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: you guys are obviously boomers, I'm gen z. But to 205 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: hang out with adults, yeah, I think nineteen and a half, 206 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: is that right? Yeah? I just turned nineteen and out cool. 207 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: But like the parent thing is so wild, Like it's 208 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: like they really do just bury it, and I feel 209 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: so awkward about it, so much shame, wrapped up, so 210 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: weird money and so much like and way too much pride, 211 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: like wrapped up ride. I am like, also, are like 212 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: projecting so much onto you that like, oh well if 213 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: we told them, like they wouldn't know what to do, right, 214 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: And it's like no, like trying me literally, yeah, try 215 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: me a bitch, Like come from me, honey. Number one 216 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: thing I feel like things in this book talked about 217 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: that I wish I was TAUGHTI there in college, high 218 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: school will literally elementary school don't open and close a 219 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: credit card? Oh yeah, we want to. I want to 220 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: talk about that because it's really not talked about and 221 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: for people in high school, it's a huge thing. Can 222 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: I just say something though? Yeah, but wait, let's catch 223 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: you identified as broken my questions. I've never felt like 224 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: I didn't have a cushion right, Like I always knew 225 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: that like if things got bad, that I had, Like 226 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: I could go to my parents, it would be like, oh, 227 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: like can you like venmo me or something like that, 228 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: which is so sh It's like dollars so shameful and 229 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: like annoying and so like I've not felt broke, but 230 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: I felt like Penny Pintry, but I've always been taken 231 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: care of. Right. I don't want you anyone to think 232 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm not an heiress, right, an airess? Okay, I am 233 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: not right, So I'm kind of the only non ass 234 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm the non heiress of the table. And I also 235 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: want to say that as a financial pop star, I 236 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: was not the kid who grew up and was like 237 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: hustling the lemonade stand and that you were making money 238 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: from the beginning. Yeah, like the nine year old who 239 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: has the NFTs like that was not me. I know. 240 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean I hate that trope. Can I just say 241 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm so sick of that, just like we need to 242 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: like push our eight year old entrepreneurs and just like 243 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: lemonade stand myth is like it's so annoying. The only 244 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: reason we have a lemonade standard so that you the child, 245 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: got lemonade and you get to have some of the cookies. 246 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: If you're that entrepreneurial at the young age, like maybe 247 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: you need to go to like a like a school 248 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: for special kids, you know. Okay, well that makes it 249 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: back to me because I used to sell gum when 250 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: I was eleven twelve. Yeah, it was like this great. 251 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: How was this kind of like retro gum called freshen 252 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: Up and it like um squirted. Oh yeah MLM. This 253 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: is just me. I shouldn't started in mL I created 254 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: my own element so I would buy it wasn't like sold, yeah, 255 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: very little rose. So I like buy some hacks each 256 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: fifty cents and I'd tell them for a dollarly crazy, 257 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: and other kids in my class so their parents wouldn't 258 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: let them have gone your sales. I was just like, 259 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: this is gum you can't get anywhere. Okay, So it's 260 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: like scarcity, Yeah, scarcity Street where y is coming on 261 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: Friday smashing up x alf white. And I remember my 262 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: like students teacher was like, oh my friends and I 263 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: used to call that. She says, it's to a group 264 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: of two year olds. Oh my friends and I used 265 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: to call that. Come come shut the fuck up. Yeah 266 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, not wrong. We all looked at her and 267 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: we're like, what's come wow, And that brings it back 268 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: to sus because Sue's no, like he come okay. So 269 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: now that we've laid the groundwork, we're sort of the 270 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: audience for this book, which are like people who have 271 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: never been taught about money, and sus is here to 272 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: be like, Hey, it's me, Susan. I'm actually one of 273 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: you guys, and I just want to talk to you 274 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: about some stuff that's super important because you're young enough 275 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: to make a difference in your financial life exactly. And 276 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: she's kind of like, this is what a rath is. 277 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: Like maybe you're like, oh, who cares about retirement? It's 278 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: basically a pretty standard like financial advice. But yes, I 279 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: mean she does say like, and there's something you know, 280 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: she'll contradict yourself, and because she'll be like I am 281 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: not kind of sick here and tell you about budgeting 282 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: when oh, why okay, I will not tell you to 283 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: not have the latte because I think we all remember 284 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: there was like some doctor Filler Oprah special in the 285 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: nineties that I feel like that was like the only 286 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: thing I knew about financial literacy. That was like someone 287 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: being like, don't have the latte every day? You'll save 288 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: three thousand and six hundred and ninety two dollars a year, 289 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: and it's like that's money in your pocket. We'll gut 290 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: to this. But like, first of all, it's like the 291 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: next generation of like financial influencers. We have pushed back 292 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: so much against the penny pinching because of the avocado 293 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: to Yeah, it's about building wealth. It's about learning how 294 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: much because you know there's a there's a floor to 295 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: how much you can cut, but there's no ceiling how 296 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: much you run me no, and I spend because that 297 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: because we're playing in the margins. If all you're two 298 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: beings cutting out latte. Yeah, it's like, oh, don't get 299 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: a hair's she said, if you're getting a haircut of 300 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: you six weeks, maybe put every eight. I'm like, what 301 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: if you need a haircuts to like get a job? 302 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: Like or like so you like haircuts? Because like so kay? 303 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: Because she kind of goes back, she does basically then 304 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: gets to this whole section where she does give all 305 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: of this like budgeting advice, yes, and I think also 306 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: promote shame. Yeah. Like that's my issue with her and 307 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: with Dave Ramsey, who's another like big financial guru of 308 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: that time. It was basically her and Dave, but like 309 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: they are just so judgmental, just like so and that's 310 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: what makes people not look at their bank, yeah, not 311 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: look at their talk about money with their friends, not 312 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: in their family. And it's so toxic about both of 313 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: you as two fabulous heiresses who may not have access 314 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: to the trust yet. Is that that meme of someone 315 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: like you know, the idea of like, oh that guy 316 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: wearing like a dirty hoodie and green point like actually 317 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: is like an air and won't talk about it and 318 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: it's just like wow, people, right, It's like are so 319 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: ashamed of being pat They're so ashamed of being rich 320 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: because they want it's like wants to be kind of 321 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: just like well, there's a huge also problem in that 322 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: the Internet I think is a which like with poverty 323 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: cosplay and like everyone what's your TikTok loves like rich 324 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: talk is a thing. More people like to see you 325 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: living lavishly than they also come for you, right, like 326 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: I got com comed for a lot of people come 327 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: for me as well. People I know last night also 328 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: brings me to her writing style a little bit about internet. 329 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: It's like, so this was written in the early two thousands, 330 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: and it's like she writes it like it is a 331 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: blog with so many links. I love. She is just 332 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: being like, she's like, please go to ww dot like 333 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: FICO credit Union dot com because I was trying to 334 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: get my TP and I'm like, literally a book. Yeah, Okay. 335 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: What I find so aft up is that I tried 336 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: to figure out my FICO score, my credit score for 337 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: this episode, and I couldn't figure out if way to 338 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: do it. There's a link on my website. Okay, so 339 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: now you finance at school dot com slash free, so 340 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: I really can find out my Yeah, let's do it 341 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: right now. Okay. This episode is sponsored by Zoktok. 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It's very well, yeah, 380 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 1: this family ship, like it's all about family and Boston ship. Um. 381 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: But one day he said this thing to be many 382 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: years ago, which was invested in yourself, and it was 383 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: basically that advice was like invest in whether it's like 384 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: taking a class education or like buying like podcasting equipment, 385 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: like like those are always good investments because it's just 386 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: like anything that is enriching for you, even if it's 387 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: not something that leads to you making money later. Okay, 388 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: Lily is just pointing up your credit score, your fight card. 389 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: This is my credit score. Wow. Okay, Chase. It's six 390 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: This is what I don't get. It's six thirty eight. 391 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: Whoa which is me? It says, but it says poor 392 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: poor to that mean you're poor? Is the credit score 393 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: is not of good quality? Um? And I think it 394 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: is because and I will share a few things just 395 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: have to do with your family. This also goes to 396 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: me investing in myself and putting costumes for a web 397 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: series on a credit card that then I forgot about 398 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: and didn't pay. And it was a store credit card. 399 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: This was cord Wow, beautiful. I've been working on it. 400 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: What's insane to me is you need to like take 401 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: on debt in order to have a credit sidalism. They 402 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: want you to finance a fucking Kia, right, they want 403 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: you to fot you want to. It's to show that 404 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: you are like safe hands to lend money to. But 405 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: what's insane? So it's like, but I so my whole life, 406 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: I've never I never had a credit card until two 407 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: years ago because I was like that it's dangerous to 408 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: me to be able to buy stuff that I might 409 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: not be able to afford. I always want to know 410 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: that I have the money to buy the things that 411 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: I want I never want to be in a situation 412 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: where I'm like leveraging myself. So download the end. You 413 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: can download it. Yeah, but yours was seven eighty eight 414 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: down but for a long time my credit score. So 415 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: when the last time I had to an apartment, I 416 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: like did finally get a credit score, and my credit 417 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: score was four because you had never never had a 418 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: credit card, I'd never had student loans, I never had anything. 419 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: So it was just like you have no you had 420 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: no history, no history, so the number was just four. No, 421 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: but this happens to that. I mean, that's hilarious but 422 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: also sad. But like the I'm crying, I'm crying laughing, 423 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: but like that's the issue, though, is that people think 424 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: that they're being safe with their money, that they're being 425 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: really responsible by not borrowing money, by not having a 426 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: credit card. But it's actually like this integral part of 427 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: our society where like you have to have that track 428 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: record of borrowing money and showing that you can pay 429 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: it back in order to like get a house or 430 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: you know what I thought was crazy as she said 431 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: that employers check your credit score. I don't think that's true. 432 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: I don't think they do anymore. But I think, I thoughtably, 433 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure like in the eighties and nineties, like doing 434 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: a background checks. I thought that was gross. I was like, 435 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: and that's so like weird that you're able to like 436 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: be like I don't want to hire that person because 437 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: they have a bad credit and so I can't rely on. 438 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: I also was annoyed by her. I get she is 439 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: like who she is. I'm like her whole things, know 440 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: the credit cards, so like I can help you with them. 441 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: But I do feel like she was on team credit 442 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: card like sometimes yeah, and she's like, hey, look like 443 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: why would they give you a lower interest rate if 444 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: like this, like you think these guys want to like 445 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: rely on you to like pay up safe. And I 446 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: was like, okay. Narc like narc literal narc narc who 447 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: literally who got in trouble. She got a huge trouble 448 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: for like selling a debit card that she basically was 449 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: marketing as a prepaid debit card that could help your 450 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: credit and though it didn't actually help your credit. So 451 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: she was being so fire fast and like she so firefast, 452 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: she was being she was my handlegowner. She was being 453 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: belhadid about it and had to like walk it back 454 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: oh wow, wow, I was like selling like a grossery 455 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: store Panera. Yeah, like literally sale hard does not not 456 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: affect it to your financial track record at all. Literally 457 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: just a Panera gift card because she does give that 458 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: advice of like which I think, Steven is what you did, 459 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: which is like you get a credit card and like 460 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: pre pay and put like three hundred dollars on it. Well, 461 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: here's as you know, I used to have a Visa 462 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: Bucks card in high school. And the Visa Buck story 463 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: is insane because you like made a website to trick 464 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 1: your parents. I like I because I had my parents 465 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: like password so I could add money to my own 466 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: like little fake team that and like I was always 467 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: doing it like in little bits, and then like one day, 468 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: like my parents like obviously got the credit card and 469 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: like found out that I was just like money to make. 470 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: So I literally, like as a teen hacker, created an 471 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: entire fake website that mirrored the actual Visa Bucks like 472 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: HTML on my own like geocity site. We created this 473 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: whole fake press release that said that there had been 474 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: a security breach at the Visa Bucks like main frame, 475 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: and it resulted in like extra money being added to 476 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: your teen's account did they buy it? I think that 477 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: my dad like was so like he obviously knew something 478 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: was insanely suss about it, but was so just maybe like, damn, 479 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: if she really went overboard for this, Like I guess 480 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: I kind of gotta give it to her, Like all right, 481 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: like you're with three hundred bucks whatever, let's maybe we'll 482 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 1: just move on from this. I love that. Wow, it's 483 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: amazing what you can get done when you were like 484 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: a fire under your eye literally termed into just like 485 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: a full web program because in that moment you said, wow, 486 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: I am stealing money. Yeah I was. You looked at 487 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: yourself with a mirror and you said, oh, am I 488 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: gonna jail. I'm going to jail. My parents are putting 489 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: me in jail jail. I hate when parents do that. Well, 490 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: it was just like, I mean, you know, and we 491 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: were just using that money to go to the movies, 492 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: which is right, Like when she gets for her budgeting things, 493 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: she's like, if you love going to the movies, and 494 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: then factor in the beer and the pizza that happens 495 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: after the movies, Like what about going to movies once 496 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: a month? And then she's always saying like instead of 497 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: getting a Tendall or Martini and hello, I'd look to 498 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: find pleasure I can get get one. Yeah, so then 499 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: I'll split the check equally, which I'm very like pro 500 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: that and not being so you owe me seven, you 501 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: owe me nine? Culture, I mean, Vemo culture is the 502 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: saddest thing on earth. When I see couples venmoeen each other, 503 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: that's horrifying. It's the saddest thing on earth. Electricity. Yeah, 504 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: or just like Ramen sixteen, I will live together. But 505 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: maybe that is their financial transparency because I think it's 506 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: the same way that like people have weird sex relationships. 507 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: I think because relationship there's a difference of being like 508 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: I got this, I got this, let's like split it 509 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: and one just like make the fucking Venmo private. It's 510 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: the Ramen back and forth and back and forth. Is 511 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: means like the tensions are building up if they don't. 512 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: If they don't, it's like there needs to be some 513 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: sort of like you guys are more like relationship than me, 514 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: So tell me what. Oh like, we're always You're always. 515 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 1: What I do love about in the relationship section is 516 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: she says that basically, like you should both contribute as 517 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: much as you can it should not be like you 518 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: contributed equal dollar amounts. I agree with it depends on income. 519 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: So it's just like and you should if you're making 520 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: like seventy five percent of the income between the two 521 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: you, you you should be contributing to seventy percent of the rent. 522 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: And I would say that generally should apply to like 523 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: food and outings and everything. And I also think you 524 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: have to be generous like that. I don't like, like, 525 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: like being grubby about money. I think it's so And 526 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: I also think that I also think entered datically it 527 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: tells the universe that like you're holding on too much 528 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: to it. Like I always think that you have to 529 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: be very free with money, like you away, I'm clapping. 530 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: I'll say, in relationship, we live together, share expenses. So 531 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: it's like my girlfriend does I'll put her blass and 532 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: make more money than me. Yeah, total girl blass, but 533 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: like she pays a little more in rent. But it's like, 534 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: let's take it to the summer. I had like a 535 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: lot of money saved and she had like some more 536 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: extra like emergency expenses, and it's just like the car 537 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: needed like new breaks or whatever. So I was like, yeah, 538 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay more in the car one which I 539 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: drive and you can't drive. So it's like I'm gonna 540 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: pay more on that because I figure it's like something 541 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: also will happen down the line where then like I've 542 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: been broken and she's like covered it. Yeah, and so 543 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: that is what a relationship is about, Yeah, supporting each 544 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: other and not like fighting the margin play of And 545 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: I have to say I could not agree with you 546 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: more about this content of money. That money should be flowing, 547 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: it should be free. The problem with the fucking world, 548 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: probably the economy, is that you have some people that 549 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: are sitting on an insane huge pile of money and 550 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: not send your own if everyone just had to like 551 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: spend put it into circulation and also get it out 552 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: invested well and also and that is well, that's what 553 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like the but that's why so many people 554 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: women especially just have all of their money and saving 555 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: doing nothing thinking, well, okay, here's a question for you, 556 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: because this is well, I do have a roth, I ray, 557 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: but you guys both have stocks and I do not. 558 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: I actually done we make sure that the money in 559 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: your wrath is actually invested because a lot of people 560 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: just fund the I R ray, but they don't actually 561 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: invest the money. Okay, I don't have the Vanguard app, 562 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: but that is something we should do off the pod. 563 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: Probably you have it in some sort of Vanguard, but 564 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: you have to do you have to actually do. It's 565 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: an extra step that most people forgot about. So that 566 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: was something I did two years ago. That's awesome. That 567 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: is the whole thing with like retirement. I was absolutely 568 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: a YFNB where I was like, well, I'm struggling to 569 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: pay bills and I still like want to go out, 570 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: and just like I'm living paycheck to paycheck. Why would 571 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: I invest my retirement? But I was like, well, let 572 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: me just Then finally my sister was like, just start 573 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: this roth and I was like, okay, literally all I 574 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: can afford to put this twenty five dollars in it's 575 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: all about Mars. But it's like you're supposed to start it, 576 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: and the five kids just started earlier because the interest 577 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: calms fucking pounds exactly. I was just thinking like wow, 578 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: like Lily, like you are the person in the statistic 579 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: that it's like Sarah puts twenty five starting at age eighteen, 580 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: Lily starts at age thirty two and puts like Sarah's 581 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot had a billion there, Sarah has 582 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: one point six mill thirty two. I started at thirty two. Okay, 583 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: better late than never. So but her example your life 584 00:30:55,080 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: exegency is fifty nine. Will you know, we'll see to 585 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: fifty a month, and I would love to up it 586 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: to month. You do what you can when you can. Yeah, well, 587 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: I like I like what she said though about like 588 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: switching your mindset from like splurging too, like making like 589 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: saving alluring, like I think for you probably like it's like, oh, 590 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: that fifty dollars means like something fun is happening in 591 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: your life or whatever. But it's like being able to 592 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: look past that experience and like, imagine how much self 593 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: esteem you would have if you were able to give 594 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: yourself that gift of one hundred dollars a month and 595 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: your I R. And that is exactly that is valuable too. 596 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: It's discipline, it's building self esteem, it's showing that you 597 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: have your own back, like it is so beautiful. There's 598 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: a whole thing about when you get your paycheck, like 599 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: even before your paycheck hits your you know, checking account. 600 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: If you work for a company, they'll take out your 601 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: four oh one K, which is why it is valuable 602 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: to put my freelancer artists right, It's like, I don't 603 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: have a four oh one no, but you could automatically, 604 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: like you could create a high yield savings account where 605 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: you're putting automatic deductions into every month from your checking account. 606 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: And you're also, like, you know, making sure that you 607 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: have direct deposit set up to all of your fixed 608 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: expects to deal with the high yield savings. It seems. 609 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: So basically there's three tiers of financial goals. So the 610 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: first tier of financial goals, I immediately glaze, I'm interested. Okay, 611 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: listen up, sweetie, listen up. Okay. Tier one doesn't apply 612 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: to you because you do not get an employer match. Okay, 613 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: but for our club kids who work for the man, 614 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: you guys had the man. Okay Murdoch, if you're listening, 615 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: give these kids a match. If you got that fucking match, 616 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: if it's offered, take it. It is free money. That 617 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: is Tier one. That and I want you to just 618 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: start your goddamn emergency fund and a hield savings account. 619 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: Go to finances go dot com, slash free. I have 620 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: the account to fund. It's not sponsored but I love them. 621 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: Just do it. You save your first thousand dollars first 622 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: in it. Okay, So this is what we're saying about. 623 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: A lot of finance is just habit based. See what 624 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: I fall for his sales? No, me too. But see 625 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: here's the thing about sales, though, is it's like you 626 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: know what the great sale is for sales too, because 627 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, and then all of a 628 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: sudden you're buying a v Lord jacket like you didn't 629 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: even need, but you know, okay for Lord, I gave 630 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: it to you. First of all, I was actually talking 631 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: about a different floor jacket that I didn't buy. But yes, um, 632 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: miss out here gave me a custom purple Valors Zippa 633 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: hoodie and match. Yeah, that says, um, finance is cool 634 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: in the back of the hoodie and then the ass assets. 635 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: Can I just say, can I say that what we're 636 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: talking about is the emotions behind money, right, So you're 637 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: literally writing on you're saying exactly like it's this is it? Right? 638 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: This is the core of why it's hard because it's 639 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: all emotional. So you're thinking, oh, I'm getting this deal 640 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: and you've got compulsive about it. The same way like 641 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: you've got compulsive about like if a guy texted you back, 642 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: or like a sale and then like seeing some of 643 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: your like oh, you're eating one goldfish and then all 644 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: of a sudden you be in the whole bag. Like 645 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: the relationship and that's fucking capitalism. But it's like you 646 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: have the relationship to the things you want to buy, 647 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: and especially with products and clothes and make shift your 648 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: house or whatever, like because it's defining you as a 649 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: person too. And we all want to be seen as 650 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: affluent and together and like we have style and like 651 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: we like you know, we're putting this time into curating ourselves. Ay, 652 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: there's that where it's like we defined by what we 653 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: buy and like we present ourselves be there's an actually 654 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: even like sicker illness, which is the thrill of purchasing. Yes, 655 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: like that I am afflicted buying where you feel like 656 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: you sort of dare yourself every time you make a purchase. Yes, 657 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: you love furniture, you like home decor, and we all 658 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: know Stephen loves clothing. So these are value based categories 659 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: for you guys. And there's nothing to feel guilty about 660 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: because they're putting money into them, because they do give 661 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: us so much pleasure payment. Yeah, you wouldn't do There's 662 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: other things that you are not spending money on because 663 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter to you. But the point is never 664 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: person round in my car because I don't have one. Exactly, 665 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: you're saving money on you know, play she even since 666 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: stayed us so much on auto and that for you 667 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: as a zero kind of like to celebrate that a boat. 668 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: I was telling them that when I was studying for 669 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: my CFP, Like it made me realize in America that 670 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: everyone wants a boat. It really is the American dream 671 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: because every single example was like Paul got a boat 672 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: and his expenses went up like this amount. No, and 673 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: I feel like, actually, where we're from Massachusetts a little, 674 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: it's more ARII, it's more keypent. The Jones is having 675 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: the most fabulous kayak, you know, but can I stamping gear? 676 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: With the value based spending thing, I think that that's 677 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: something that like my work as like the next generation 678 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: after suz Orman who imparted, I think a lot of 679 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: guilt for people about spending. Like in her, if you 680 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: read this book, you would be like, okay, so doing 681 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: it right is basically literally spending nothing and well actually 682 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: and she says you can use your credit card, which 683 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: she says, pay your rent with your credit card was crazy. 684 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: She literally was like, you can pursue your dream and 685 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: just put it on your credit card. And I was like, 686 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: maybe we don't give that advice because then she's with 687 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars of credit card. I know, and I 688 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: agree with her that having a career is so much 689 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: better than having a job, which and she was saying, Okay, 690 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 1: these are broke people who don't have benefactors in their 691 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: lives who can support them as they pursue a dream. 692 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: But I think I open the cold credit card to 693 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: get costumes. But it's like to pursue your dream yea 694 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: where costumes dressing. She's right that you should spend your 695 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: twenties like, yes, you do shitty jobs or whatever, but 696 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: at some point, like the goal is to get a 697 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: career that you really like so that you're not in 698 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: a job you hate and when you're fifty, you know, 699 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: I agree that things that you to make you feel better. 700 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think quality of life is 701 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,479 Speaker 1: so improved when you're doing something that you are passionate about, 702 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: and that too many people hate their jobs. But I 703 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: don't agree with is like the guilt around spending and 704 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: the anecdote for that, which, like both of you I 705 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: want to use because you with clothing, you with home 706 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: decre I don't think I spend much on home decor, food, food, 707 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 1: and I think I'm a little more. Yeah, okay, I'm crazy, 708 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,479 Speaker 1: Like I think I'm You're always like I didn't buy 709 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: three dolls. You're constantly buying dolls, But think about it, 710 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: you could buy those guilt free if you're using value 711 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,959 Speaker 1: based spending. Right, It's about I don't think you should 712 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: feel guilty. I should just like embrace the fact that 713 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: you buy dolls at a state. Yes, and I do. 714 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: And then sometimes I'm like, you've had enough dolls, but 715 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: yes it's a mixture of dolls thrifting clothes. It's yeah, 716 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm, I'm multi. The biggest thing is like asking 717 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: yourself before you're making the purchase, why am I doing this? 718 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: I think that is huge because there have been times 719 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: definitely where I feel like I see myself shopping online 720 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at things with like looking at eBay, 721 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: and it's like I'm actually bored. I'm looking. Yeah, it's bored. 722 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm looking for or I'm looking it's like TikTok, I 723 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: have something to do and I don't want to do it, 724 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: and I'm just stracting myself. I'm like, oh, I don't 725 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: want to like write that email, which, by the way, 726 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: give yourself permission to take a walk. Like all of 727 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: this is like you know what I mean, Like so 728 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: much of it is us just like taking in content 729 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: because we don't want to do the thing that we're doing. 730 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: And it's like that's actually not making you feel relaxed 731 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: or like more capable, like go like go take a 732 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: walk the other ways to other than shopping. Yeah, just 733 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: to throw that out there, thank you for saying, Yeah, 734 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: that is so true. It's huge. There's two more things 735 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: that I just want to actually really want to get 736 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: into really quickly. First of all about getting raises, because 737 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: she had this whole thing about how to get a 738 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: raise and it's just like which I think read. She's like, 739 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: you need to make yourself indispensable to your manager and 740 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: your team. And then she's like state your case before 741 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: you sit down with your manager. Submit I retten record 742 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: of your responsibilities and achievements. It's like that's crazy to me, 743 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: Like if you send a list of just being like, 744 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: these are all the things I did. It's like when 745 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: you ask for a raise, like you should just be 746 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: as short and concise as possible. She said, if you 747 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: go to the meeting and they haven't reviewed it, tell 748 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: them but it's okay, and that you would like to reschedule. 749 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: I'm just so pathetic. Yeah, like what, but I do 750 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: it is really important to know the numbers. Like when 751 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: you you have to make your case for yourself, I 752 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: think you should have that in the back pocket. But 753 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 1: if you come in with this hole, have ever gotten 754 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: a race? Yeah, so tell us how you did it. 755 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: When I used to work at this Brandy agency, Will Fallens. 756 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: When I first started working there, I was getting fifty 757 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: dollars an hour, which at the time for me, was 758 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: like I thought I was getting away with murder. It 759 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: was a lot. And I worked there for like nine 760 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: months or so, and I was like, you know what, 761 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: I'm working for a while, Like this company obviously has 762 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: a lot of money. Like I took this phrase I 763 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 1: emailed HR and I was just like him, I'm wondering 764 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: if we can increase my rate. I wanted to be 765 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,439 Speaker 1: seventy five. I'm gonna say eighty to give them something 766 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: to come back with. I literally I said eighty. They 767 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: came back with seventy five. Like that. A week later, 768 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm in the office and like one of my like 769 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: boss type persons was like, oh, I heard you finally 770 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: asked for a race. Oh my god, I know. I 771 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: was actually like already being too afraid by waiting that long. Wow, 772 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: And now that which I feel like, here's a major 773 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: lesson I need to learn. Like I always feel the 774 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: confident I'm worth like two dollars a narrow No, I 775 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: not always, but I mean like I definitely do, and 776 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: in my kind of just cleaning busines, I feel like 777 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: I've gone better with that where I'm like, this is 778 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: the right deal with it. Can I say something as 779 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: a boss? Yeah, So as a boss employees that I've 780 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: had who did not negotiate, I always find like like 781 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, like this is not going to work out, 782 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: Like Jimmy. It's always a really big red flag if 783 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: someone doesn't like take the weekend to review your payoffer 784 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: and like you know, do all of that due diligence 785 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: and like come back to you and like make you 786 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: feel like both sides should feel like they're getting away 787 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: with something. Yes, like you have to like you like. 788 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: A good negotiation is where both people feel like they 789 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: sort of lost, but also like they want come with 790 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: a higher number so that you give them something to 791 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 1: meet you at. I actually have steps on missus dow 792 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: Jones on my TikTok on my reels, have step I step, 793 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: how to get a raise, how to use inflation to 794 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: get a raise, all of that. So I got you 795 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: Rath segments. What does she eat? What does she wear? 796 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,959 Speaker 1: How does she live? What does she eat? I mean 797 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: she's so like early two thousands, Like she's smoothie nut juice. 798 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: She's like sugary jomba juice, smoothie huge. She's like, I'll 799 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 1: get strawberries, watermelon, pineapple, protein powder. Could she be more edible? Arrangement? 800 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: She's surprising her. Oh wait, and this is I mean, 801 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: I totally how does she live? It's like she wrote 802 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: this book before she was out, and I think the 803 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 1: way she says partner and life partner. Oh yeah, she's 804 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 1: lay in the runway, sweetheart. Yeah. She's like, and whether 805 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: it's your wife, mother, or partner, you're like rich dad, 806 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: poor dad, Like, don't eat my cheese. He does not 807 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: say life partner in his book, E my cheese. Um, 808 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: So she's John with juice. She's getting an ed arrangement. 809 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: Feel like she's very packaged food. Like she's not like 810 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: or she's not Farmer's market. She's very like please salid yes, 811 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: there's not her episode or her cold diet is just 812 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: in the airport. Oh it is. That is literally her 813 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: favorite kind of food. Five yeah, baked by Melissa. She 814 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: loves Mexican night you know. She loves a margarita, yes, 815 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: like it, enjoys every sip and she's like this is 816 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: I say, yes, this is for me, and like, you know, 817 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: sometimes she's getting the taco salad bowl with a huge 818 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: tortilla that keeps. She's very bread bull like. She's very 819 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: like Panera bread bowl. She's very like food that if 820 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: you knew the calori count of you would be shocked, right, 821 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: Like a salad that actually is five thou yeah yea 822 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: a ranch chicken bacon caesar. But I feel like maybe 823 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: her partner got her to switch to like tea from 824 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: coffee like six years ago. Your blood pressure is through 825 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: the roof and she's like, well, my weight is normal 826 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: but it's like she's at risk of heart attack. Do 827 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 1: you think that her partner is like a sturdy fan 828 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: her partner is wear longer hair, right, but also like 829 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: longer hair, but they're both in like the squarest blazers. Yeah, 830 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: and so I think it's um, I mean, what does 831 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: she fucking pussy? I don't think for hours. She's just 832 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: like on the clock. She knows how to make her 833 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: a partner of many years. What she's in the palm 834 00:43:48,800 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 1: of her hands literally yeah, closing bell can't about that, Okay. 835 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: What she wears, I mean insane, just like nineties pant suits, 836 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: a lot of animal print. Yeah, but she only has one, 837 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: like she has one blazer. Like there's been like a 838 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: lot of like fodder around the fact that she's like 839 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: and I've had this blazer for twelve years. Oh yeah. Yeah, 840 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: she's very much like you don't mean many things, and 841 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: she's very much like I'm driving my Subaru. I feel 842 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: like she's very ultimately Tommy Bahama and still well, she 843 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 1: has a fucking island. She has an island, so that's 844 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: why she's she's Tommy Bama. She's tons of linen, tons 845 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: of island linen, she's very SPF shirt. Actually, oh she's yeah. 846 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: Oh but is she right? She's always on she's a boat. Yeah, 847 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 1: and she's always like in her SPF mom. She obviously 848 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: has just like at least four cousins who've had melanoma. Yeah, 849 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 1: that's like she is highly conscious of gets screen she's 850 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 1: getting screened every two months because she's already just like 851 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: so leathery and so Florida is so thank you for 852 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: bringing up the whole both thing because I just discovered 853 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: I think I started following her like last year. I 854 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: think when I realized the fishing content, like, oh that's 855 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, she's getting big tunas. And what's that brand, 856 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:21,959 Speaker 1: Hulk Huck. It's like a fishware, a fishing brand. Okay, Yeah, 857 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: it's like they have a fold in the back and 858 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: it's a flap. Any every shirt is SPF one hundred 859 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,919 Speaker 1: and fold in the back like a flap, like an 860 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: open flap, Like the back is lower than the front 861 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: in this way. The top is a high Go to 862 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: huk dot com sash collection flash of boots and use 863 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: ten percent boots at checkout. So yeah, it's Linen's, it's 864 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,359 Speaker 1: one blazer and it's spfware. Do you think that her 865 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: wedding was like that classic lesbian wedding where they're both 866 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 1: wearing like white linen suits on the beach bare foot, 867 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: So you don't think that the other girls of FM. 868 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: I think the other girl did wear more of it. 869 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: I think she's I think the other girl's the bottom. 870 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,720 Speaker 1: And I think that she's definitely a tiny more famine 871 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: like longer hair. But I don't think that I think 872 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: that neither is like super. Okay, So we're right. We 873 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: were wrong about her having long hair, but we're basically 874 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: right that she's just pretty similar another like leather, she 875 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,760 Speaker 1: got work, they've gone work done though another le Wow. Okay, 876 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 1: but these are everyone's lesbian as. Yes, yes, they are 877 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 1: your alms like Caffie and kafee. Okay, but there is 878 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: something about like just the way Sue's we're looking at 879 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: this photo. We're at a fundraiser, obviously, um and Sue's 880 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: has her arm around the shoulder. It is it's a 881 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:42,439 Speaker 1: top's a top short hair blazers. See here the wife 882 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: actually looks butcher, but in that way that like all 883 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: lesbians of that generation look. Yeah, that generation, All of 884 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: a sudden, they have silver hair, and they both have 885 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: short hair, and they're both catching six foot six foot perfect. 886 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 1: They're all just like breast cancer survivor. No. Every they're 887 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: headed back to what does she where? Everyone is like 888 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,479 Speaker 1: to fun cancer. Ye cancer sncer the way, they're also 889 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: fun cancer. So how does she live? Um? Well, the island, 890 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: I think, or do you think they're just so Florida 891 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: and everything is like white marble, It is a little 892 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: more Jimmy Buffett Tommy Bahama. I agree, I agree, I 893 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 1: completely agree. Like I think it's like horrible Prince Prince 894 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: Island Prince. Yeah. I think they're both pretty like blazered 895 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: up and that's part of like in that time, to 896 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: be a financial guru, you had to be lesbian because 897 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: it is masculine, consider masculine to talk about money. Money, Yeah, 898 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 1: for sure. And I think that's why she got where 899 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: she is in her field. So I'm coming out, well, 900 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: so that gives you path away with her gay brother. 901 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: They're just like the lgbt QIA community is hugely important 902 00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: to Majerney, and I'm so grateful they're supports lesbian sisters 903 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:06,760 Speaker 1: like a doctor and Lily's door, she's a she's a surgeon. 904 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: She's in both stand so you can see her because 905 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: you're going back there to night to work at mgh 906 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: Man's greatest hospital. Yes, she does. Where my parents met. 907 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: By the way, Lily's obsessed with I know it all 908 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 1: goes back. Yeah, wait, what it was about what she's wearing? Okay, 909 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: so she has. I just wanted to say that Susie 910 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: orm was the top because she once familessly said I'm 911 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 1: a virgin. Right, she said I'm a virgin because I've 912 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,959 Speaker 1: never been penetrated. Oh yeah, why does she see that? 913 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,800 Speaker 1: What web side are you on? Because she's like twenty 914 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: eleven g Q quote. I don't know it was most 915 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: random quote. I mean, I'm obsessed with that statement. I 916 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: think she may mean she's never been penetrated by like 917 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: a human penis. Human dickon wasn't counting from. But I 918 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: still think she's wearing the strap she's trapping. How does 919 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: she love white marble huge in the kitchen? Is I 920 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 1: think it's stated? I think it's stated. Yeah, it feels 921 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: like feels pretty dated ninety eight to me. There's like 922 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: a silly a framed thing in the bathroom, just like 923 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 1: what happened in the bathroom stays in the bathroom. It's 924 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 1: like it's like, no matter where I served my guests, 925 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: it seems they like my kitchen beasts, yeah, or like 926 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: a coffee cut that's like, there's there's wine in here. Okay, 927 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,720 Speaker 1: very very much. They can't go to a to Maine. 928 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 1: They love me. I think they love me, and they 929 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 1: love right. They love that. But like famous Bush Family retreat, 930 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: right they had, it's like their island houses islanded out. 931 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 1: It's her New York apartment, just like very I feel 932 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: like it's kind of a little bit like like it's 933 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,720 Speaker 1: in Trump Tower. Okay, so it's actually literally in Frunt Tower. 934 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: She's like, it's sorry, Trump Tower is just convenient. I 935 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: got a good deal kitchens Trump Tower. I mean it's 936 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,840 Speaker 1: just a tower. Yeah, it's just a tower. Okay, I 937 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: don't care what you call it. Five years, it's got 938 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,720 Speaker 1: all the scraffnage I need. I invested. The concier staff 939 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: is wonderful. The jo A fees are amazing. You can 940 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 1: get room service. Here's my hot take. I don't think 941 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: that she takes her own advice about investing. I think 942 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,839 Speaker 1: that if you looked under her hood, I think she's 943 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: totally together financially, but I think that she has like 944 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: a portfolio that you could not believe that, Like, she's 945 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,879 Speaker 1: invested in things that she definitely would not conduct. Which 946 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: is fine because if you're giving financial yes, I think 947 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 1: if you're giving financial advice to the masses, she owns 948 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 1: an island, it's like you to island. I think she's 949 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: But you know what's sad. I think is that she 950 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 1: could have ultimately made a lot more money, but she no. 951 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like the fact that she had management 952 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: who said, great, do this fucking prepaid debit card that's 953 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: going to do false advertising? Like that's horrible business move. 954 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 1: You're losing all. What is a financial influencer beside someone 955 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: who has the trust of their audience and has proved 956 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: that they like are a worthwhile source to learn from. 957 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: And she's saying, Okay, let me actually screw all of 958 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: that trust that we built and sell you a product 959 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: that's actually fake. Shoo's fake, but none of us that 960 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 1: ram all the way off to church, to the gym 961 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: and then back to jail. Okay, who are you in 962 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: the book? Who are you in the book? You're the 963 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: girl who like invested in the wrath Like, yeah, yes, 964 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: you are Kim who went to Risdy and instead of 965 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: taking the sixty five K toy design job, did like 966 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 1: a lower job designing shoes. I guess I don't know 967 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 1: what salary position. Did you take a toy No, you're 968 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: also you're also a person in the book who like 969 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:50,319 Speaker 1: whom who's not asking for Yeah, I'm not asking for 970 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: a raise. I think I'm a little bit more Kim 971 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: the shoe designer. Yeah, you're so, Kim, because I worked 972 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: my way up and I was and then I like 973 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 1: did like took less money and then asked for raises 974 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: and then like but you were like you showed your 975 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 1: worth and then said you can't love about me for nothing. 976 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: I worked. I made twenty one thousand a year working 977 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: for Scott Stringer, and then I worked my way up 978 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: to Yeah, we're gonna name names. Scott string Ye, Scott Stringer, 979 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,959 Speaker 1: pay me twenty one thousand dollars to be deputy finance 980 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 1: or verse campaign in twenty nothing. But was Trump offering 981 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 1: you sixty five k for that same job? And I said, no, 982 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: way up the damn ladder. No one was offering me anything. 983 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you're also mister Visa. I'm saying, oh my, yeah, 984 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm you're a mister Visa. Oh I am mister Visa. 985 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: Even though I don't have a visa. I have such 986 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 1: a children's credit card. It's from TD Bank, It's from 987 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,239 Speaker 1: my own bank. But does it say visa on it? Like? 988 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: Is it visa back? Oh? I think it is visa back? Yeah? 989 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 1: Am I okay? Back to you our wonderful guys missed 990 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 1: out Jones at miss I mean in some ways you 991 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: are I guess you're just do you have a university? No? No, 992 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,360 Speaker 1: I like you do have a course? And like is 993 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: that your debit card? We'll see and you are and 994 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,240 Speaker 1: like just like this book has told us a good websites. 995 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 1: You have been mentioned in your website mans say wow 996 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: the writings on the wall. Sorry that I want you 997 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,360 Speaker 1: to say, I was mister Emmett started fishing for that. 998 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 1: Are you sure you don't want to take back your answer? 999 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,800 Speaker 1: Here this is a place of fun and your susan. 1000 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,879 Speaker 1: You will own an island and you will come. Yes, 1001 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,400 Speaker 1: I can't wait. But it's not going to be Tommy Bahamas. 1002 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 1: It's gonna be like la Epstein's island and you're turned 1003 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 1: it into like a Laura Piano paradise. What do you 1004 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 1: think about for hinge? Me saying, um, never have ever 1005 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,440 Speaker 1: been to Epstein's Island? Not so funny, but I like, 1006 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 1: don't No one has to do it, no one has 1007 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 1: me honestly. Same thing with the rays. It's like, if 1008 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,359 Speaker 1: someone says no to that, then why would you want 1009 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: to date them anyway? Yes? Yeah, if they won't give 1010 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: you a race and they won't give you hot fuck 1011 00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 1: them if they won't get your hilarious Epstein islands? Wait, 1012 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 1: but you what are your other hinge ones? My whole 1013 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 1: hinge strategy is to like do like non sequitors. So 1014 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 1: it's just like you use a photo for like a 1015 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 1: prompt who you're not supposed to. So it's so it's 1016 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 1: very like those things that are like let's do this 1017 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: on our date from home, and it's like a selfie 1018 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: of me at the beach or something hilarious, hilarious actual 1019 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 1: definitions up right now, I'm uproarious with laughter. Um, I 1020 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,839 Speaker 1: also have a hilarious voice note that I use. Oh 1021 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 1: what's your voice note? It's so the voice the voice 1022 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 1: note is how do I pronounce my name, and it's 1023 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 1: me going Jennifer Lopez. I love it, so I'm going 1024 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: to do that too. Yeah, still we're going for different demos. 1025 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 1: It totally works, all right. I give this book I 1026 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 1: don't know, like true out of five dollars. I just 1027 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of the advice you could just 1028 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 1: get from your stockbroker or from miss and yeah, and 1029 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 1: it does feel dated with like the amount of shame 1030 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: as we've been discussing. I give this book two point 1031 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 1: five out of five. There is some like basic advice, 1032 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't tell anyone to like, I don't know, 1033 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you can find this information on the 1034 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 1: internet on finance school dot com. Ye give this book rating. 1035 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,360 Speaker 1: I give this book, uh three out of five chunky 1036 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 1: highlights um the three because I think that anytime that 1037 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 1: you're able to connect with people about money and like 1038 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: help them feel empowered, that is so powerful and a 1039 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 1: few people can do it. And she's someone who people 1040 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: listen to, right, we like Stephen has a stockbroker, so 1041 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,399 Speaker 1: maybe you can't get that, yeah, like access, like even 1042 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,480 Speaker 1: if we weren't like, okay, were obsessed with all your 1043 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 1: advice and we love all your advice. Into your twenty 1044 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,360 Speaker 1: twenty two It is still amazing that this is like 1045 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: a best seller that like has helped probably a lot 1046 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 1: of people. And I like that she tries to be approachable. 1047 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend it to people, Like if you were like, hey, Haley, 1048 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,399 Speaker 1: what's the best book about money? I would not say 1049 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 1: this book. But like I do, credit book, credit is credit. 1050 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 1: We don't have to have come here with any connectional 1051 00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 1: literacy to understand what you're talking about. It is all 1052 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 1: in pretty normal terms. And like I will say stuff 1053 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,799 Speaker 1: websites like Investopedia other things like I find they are 1054 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 1: they're they're gatekeepers. They are gatekeepers, and they're like, they're 1055 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 1: not and they are Investopedia. Um, Haley, where can we 1056 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: find you? I know you have mentioned it, just that 1057 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm most compatible with this guy. Okay, I love a 1058 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 1: gap tooth, but look at the at a cool McConaughey 1059 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 1: on hend right now, we do think Haley should go 1060 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 1: for him one hundred percent and is about to get 1061 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 1: married to a man in a fedora. And and by 1062 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,280 Speaker 1: the way, you're invited, Okay, where can you find me myself? 1063 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 1: Here's the thing? Everywhere at missus dow Jones. But if 1064 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,359 Speaker 1: you want to make it easy on yourself, get out 1065 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,359 Speaker 1: your phone and type in finances coool dot com. Room 1066 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,720 Speaker 1: right there. It's good everything. You can find it all. 1067 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 1: I'll see you there, hunting stay wretch finances coo dot com. 1068 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Haley for joining us. Thank you 1069 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 1: it was a joy. Thank you for the Finances cool 1070 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 1: trucker hat I am wearing right now. I did adore 1071 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 1: you both. This is my favorite podcast. You know that 1072 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm a patron member. That is a value based purchase. Okay, 1073 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 1: everyone needs to join. See you in the club. We'll 1074 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,799 Speaker 1: see We will be talking more with missus Dow Jones 1075 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 1: about our personal finances. Yes, seems we're going to get crazy. 1076 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: We're looking at Steven's portfolio. We're gonna look at my 1077 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 1: savings account that is not high yield, and miss Dow 1078 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: is gonna read read us to and give us tips 1079 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 1: and really just break down what's going on with the money. Also, 1080 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 1: guys and saxon drugs too, right, because we communicate about money. 1081 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 1: But anyway, you have to fucking pay up to hear us. 1082 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 1: Only five dollars a month will give you access to 1083 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 1: this week's VIP lounge and all the VIP lounges that 1084 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: we've had so far, and there have been many, so 1085 00:57:48,520 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 1: subscribing around sub best truck. Welcome to the VIP lounge 1086 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: with me Stephen and oh yeah miss Dow she's still 1087 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 1: here in Valenciaga. Seest it to thumb of thal Okay, 1088 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 1: and sales. We love a sale. It's guess the price. 1089 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah I got at the sample sale. It was for 1090 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,920 Speaker 1: eighty five. It was two hundred no way, Yeah, that's 1091 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 1: such a fucking deal. I know everything we were giving away. 1092 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: It was literally like, oh you want this motorcycle back? 1093 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: It's two hundred dollars. Wow. God. Sample sales are such 1094 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: a good I mean to wait for five hours. It 1095 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 1: was not good time value of money. Next time, if 1096 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 1: I get invited again, I'm gonna get a task. Grab 1097 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 1: it to go early for me. Oh that's well my 1098 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 1: place starting at the very beginning. And then I show 1099 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 1: up like yeah right before doors open, Yeah, fresh blowout, 1100 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,439 Speaker 1: ready to try and some clothes. Yeah. So I want 1101 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 1: to get really real. So we're in the VIP. Why 1102 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 1: we're in the VIP and guess why the actually in 1103 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: a booth? Okay, okay, that's stock percustionating Stephen shows your 1104 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 1: stock portfolio. Okay, so I just want to say I 1105 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 1: am I was looking. I've really made a lot of money. 1106 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 1: I mean, not like more in buffet money, but I'm 1107 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 1: just like, the percentage increase has been really wild the 1108 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 1: past two years. I think everyone has experienced this. It's 1109 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 1: feeling it for some like me. If you yeah, if 1110 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of exposure to the stock market, 1111 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 1: like no, that was just a taste of this week's 1112 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: vip lounge. Do you hear the rest of that segment 1113 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 1: and get another just like it every week? Go to 1114 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 1: patreon dot com, slash CBC the pot and sign up 1115 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: now for only five dollars a month. Is presented by 1116 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 1: Promo Project. Shows produced by megamer Name with apart from 1117 00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Andrew Lynn Kaplin, our production manager is Percia Verlin. 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