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Speaker 1: Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us. I am live

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Speaker 1: in our Washington, d C studios. Yesterday as all the

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Speaker 1: news broke, I was touring college campuses with my sixteen

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Speaker 1: year old, So that continues. We'll dive into some of

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Speaker 1: the takeaway there. We've got three great guests that are

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Speaker 1: going to be here in to Clay and Buck DC studio.

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Speaker 1: Senator Bill Haggerty of Tennessee, who is New York Times

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Speaker 1: says one of the contenders for vice president. We haven't

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Speaker 1: heard him talked about a lot Byron Donald's another contender

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Speaker 1: for vice president, Florida congressman. Both of those guys will

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Speaker 1: be in studio with it with us. And then Mary

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Speaker 1: Margaret Oahan, who has written a really fascinating book called

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Speaker 1: d Trans True Stories of Escaping the Gender Identity Cult,

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Speaker 1: and it's particularly relevant because the state of Florida is

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Speaker 1: trying to keep miners from having gender reassignment surgery and

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Speaker 1: a federal judge just struck that down. We will talk

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Speaker 1: about the stories that she has found of young people

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Speaker 1: who believed, Hey, if I changed my gender, I'll be happier,

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Speaker 1: and they do it, and then they decide they don't

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Speaker 1: want to be living a trans lifestyle. The rebellion aspect

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Speaker 1: of this and why Buck and I have been arguing

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Speaker 1: for a long time that it's crazy to allow miners

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Speaker 1: to have these kind of surgeries. But we'll discuss all that.

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Speaker 1: All three of those guests will be in studio. But Buck,

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Speaker 1: I was just beginning the college tour process in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. We went around to multiple schools because my

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Speaker 1: sixteen year old is interested potentially in going to college

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Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Loves politics, loves history, current events, government,

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Speaker 1: all those things. Probably not a surprise given what his

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Speaker 1: dad does. And I looked at on my phone and

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Speaker 1: I have gotten the alert that Hunter Biden has been

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Speaker 1: convicted on all three felony counts. You were right on this.

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Speaker 1: This is one where I wasn't optimistic. I was concerned

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Speaker 1: that based on the fact that he had a Wilmington,

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Speaker 1: Delaware jury, even with open and shut evidence, that this

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Speaker 1: was going to be a crime. That I was concerned

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Speaker 1: that somebody would get on the jury and nullify And

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Speaker 1: so I'm cautiously optimistic that a conviction happened in this case,

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Speaker 1: and I know you talked about it a little bit

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Speaker 1: quite a bit yesterday, but I had a couple of

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Speaker 1: big takes that I thought were worthy of having discussion.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious what you think one and I haven't hardly

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Speaker 1: seen anybody talk about this the jury pool impact here.

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden was convicted by the absolute best possible jury

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Speaker 1: he could have in a city Wilmington, and a state

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Speaker 1: del that overwhelmingly has voted for his dad, that is

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Speaker 1: his home state. Even that jury pool, which was probably

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Speaker 1: the most favorable jury pool that Hunter Biden could get

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Speaker 1: in the entire country, convicted him. There's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of discussion about Trump's conviction. This is not similar in

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Speaker 1: my mind, because Trump had the worst possible jury pool

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Speaker 1: in New York City. My point on this is, if

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Speaker 1: Hunter was found guilty by this Delaware City jury, then

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Speaker 1: he probably would be found guilty almost anywhere in the country,

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Speaker 1: Whereas there's no possibility at all, in my opinion, that

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Speaker 1: Trump would be convicted by any jury for this business

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Speaker 1: fraud if it were brought in West Virginia, let's say,

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Speaker 1: have been convicted. I think that's worth thinking about. Thought,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious what you would say on this is that

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Speaker 1: there's real no impact. And I think the polls that

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Speaker 1: honest the jury and American justice system really is. Did

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Speaker 1: you weigh in on that, because that's the argument they're

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Speaker 1: trying to spin now now that Hunter has actually been convicted. Yes.

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Speaker 2: Well, one thing that we talked about yesterday, so I

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Speaker 2: One thing that was discussed on our program yesterday was

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Speaker 2: does this make it more likely that they will be

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Speaker 2: even more extreme or I should say they will feel

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Speaker 2: I say extreme, it would be incarceration of some kind,

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Speaker 2: They could probably make special accommodations, you know, because he

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Speaker 1: So I think that's a possibility. Uh, the it is.

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Speaker 2: It is funny also to watch the various when when

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Speaker 2: the when the Libs have a bad argument clay, like,

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Speaker 2: when they know that their side is indefensible. One of

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Speaker 2: So what you said, I think is the primary which

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Speaker 2: just look at how stoic the Biden family is about this,

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Speaker 2: look at this. First of all, he's not gonna spend

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Speaker 2: a day in jail, as we know, he's gonna pardon

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Speaker 2: his son. But even putting that aside, they are trying

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Speaker 2: to make the argument as well that he is getting

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Speaker 2: worse than normal treatment. Hunter Biden is getting worse than

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Speaker 2: the treatment that a normal, everyday American would get for

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Speaker 2: the same conduct because he's the president's son, which is

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Speaker 2: not just untrue, is anti true. It is the anti truth.

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Speaker 2: It's the inversion of reality. So that is one take.

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Speaker 2: Here's my bigger take in terms of what I think

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Speaker 2: to follow me down. I know we've talked about this before,

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Speaker 2: think this is the story that should be examined more aggressively,

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Speaker 2: to the extent their media out there listening, as I

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Speaker 2: know there often are. Now that we know the government

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Speaker 2: exhibit and as hardcore evidence of criminal behavior. A jury

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Speaker 2: also be sufficient to convict in California, which is the

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Speaker 2: more significant of the charges so far, tax evasion, and

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Speaker 2: there's virtually no defense for that either. This is where

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Speaker 2: it gets really important. The FBI took possession of.

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Speaker 1: This laptop in late twenty nineteen when the New York

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Speaker 1: Post story with Miranda Devine, which we have talked about

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Speaker 1: in October of twenty twenty. The FBI one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: knew that this laptop was real. They told Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,

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Speaker 1: these hallmarks of disinformation. We know that's a lie. Someone

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Speaker 1: And this, to me is the most important question I

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Speaker 1: have about the twenty twenty election. Someone inside the FBI

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Speaker 1: intentionally rigged the twenty twenty election for Joe Biden. Biden

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Speaker 1: not simply saying yes, we believe this laptop is real.

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Speaker 1: We know it's real. We've had it for a year,

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Speaker 1: and they allowed all of the censorship. We focused and

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Speaker 1: We focused on Twitter and Facebook and their censorship of

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Speaker 1: The New York Post and all those things. But that

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Speaker 1: was actually put in motion by the FBI. Someone in

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Speaker 2: It's not some of the code read. It's many people.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just to be clear, there.

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Speaker 1: Are how many people. But that's a conspiracy to rig

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Speaker 1: the election. This happened now, there's strong evidence of it.

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Speaker 1: We need to know how it happened, and who made

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Speaker 1: that call? Any again, having been in these rooms at

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Speaker 1: the CIA where high level analysis decisions were made, where

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Speaker 1: where it's going to go right to the president, including

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Speaker 1: for things that were kinetic actions in a war zone.

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Speaker 1: Let's say, you know what are we blowing up? Right?

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Speaker 2: When you're in a room and those discussions are happening,

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Speaker 2: you know what happens. Nobody makes the call, Clay, It's

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Speaker 2: always consensus.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's reminding you have plausible deniability because somebody

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Speaker 1: doesn't say that was Jim who said we have to

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Speaker 2: And in fact, one of the big one of the

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Speaker 2: big problems of the IC the intelligence community, is that

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Speaker 2: everything becomes so watered down because of that diffusion of

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Speaker 2: responsibility that there is no responsibility. And the bureaucracies like

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Speaker 2: it that way as long as they can maintain their access.

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Speaker 2: The FBI is certainly in that position. So when you say,

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Speaker 2: you know, you're right who ordered the code red, it's

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Speaker 2: you know what group of people in the FBI ordered

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Speaker 2: the code red? So to speak. I would also say

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Speaker 2: the media. And this has become increasingly clear. I said

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Speaker 2: this all along the fifty one intelligence officers. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: former intelligence officers. This has been clear, Clay.

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Speaker 1: They knew they weren't fooled.

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Speaker 2: That was just the plausible deniability they pretended to cling to.

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Speaker 1: They knew it was real. They're not morons. They lied to.

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Speaker 2: Everybody because they figure, if we can fool enough Rubes

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Speaker 2: intelligence officers sign this, Joe Biden can eke out a win,

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Speaker 2: and sure enough, Biden's the president. However you think it

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Speaker 2: went down, Biden's the president. Okay, if all of that

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Speaker 2: with his payment of Stormy Daniels, how is there not

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Speaker 2: substantial evidence that those fifty one intelligence agents and whomever

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Speaker 2: the truth, which is that this laptop, which we now

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent real? How is that not a conspiracy

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Speaker 2: to rig the election? Well, because they say that it's

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Speaker 2: a and this is the classic thing in government as well.

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Speaker 2: They say it's a mistake, not a conspiracy. We were fooled.

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Speaker 2: We didn't that's a lie. But this is what they

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Speaker 2: fall back on, and this is always going to be

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Speaker 2: what they fall back on on that issue. And I

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Speaker 2: think that there is plenty of data they've they've done

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Speaker 2: some polling to suggest that people might have it might

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Speaker 2: have come out very differently because the whole bide in

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Speaker 2: pitch right was a restoration of stability and normalcy.

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Speaker 1: Well, actually, anyone.

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Speaker 2: Who sees what's going on with the Biden family, that's

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Speaker 2: the opposite of normalcy, the opposite of stability.

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Speaker 2: And and I think that that might have been a

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Speaker 2: there was a moment of panic that went through the

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Speaker 2: intelligence community, people who sign that. The FBI to your point, Clay,

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Speaker 2: and you know, the FBI would say, it's not we

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Speaker 2: can't exclude the possibility. And I'm gonna say this became

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Speaker 2: a thing with the IRAQ WMD issue as well. It

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Speaker 2: was can you prove to me they don't have WMD? No, Well,

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Speaker 2: we have reason to believe they might. So since you

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Speaker 2: can't prove that they don't, we gotta go right. Same

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Speaker 2: thing with the FBI. We can't prove that it's not

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Speaker 2: Russian disinformation. Therefore we can't leave out that possibility. There's

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Speaker 2: the hallmarks of Russian disinformation is so vague as to

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Speaker 2: be anything they mean. This is all propaganda, right, This

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Speaker 1: But if they can argue that Trump, because he paid

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Speaker 2: in studio in DC is Senator Haggarty of the Great

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Speaker 2: States of Tennessee. Senator, appreciate you coming and hang out. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: But we were talking off air, and Senator's got a

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Speaker 3: Going to start with that question first and we'll get

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Speaker 3: to the president. With respect to the United States Senate.

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Speaker 2: Senator Haggerty with us from Tennessee, but in DC. Senator,

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Speaker 3: Well, Buck, you hit the nail on the head. I

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Speaker 3: They don't have any any capacity, couldn't be in front

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Speaker 3: lowest tick mark on that list, Buck, Competence seems to

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Speaker 3: They're doing the same thing. I think it will continue

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Speaker 1: You have a great relationship with Donald Trump. You served

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Speaker 1: He is incredibly complimentary of you. I saw in the

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Speaker 3: Ye, that's often the case.

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Speaker 1: I saw that you are a vice presidential candidate according

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Speaker 1: vice presidency at all? Would that be something that you

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Speaker 1: were interested in? If Trump came to you and said,

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Speaker 1: as I know he does, I really trust your opinion.

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Speaker 1: I think you could help us get over the finish line.

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Speaker 1: What kind of conversations have there with Here's.

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Speaker 3: What I want to say, first and foremost. The most

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Speaker 3: critical thing for this nation right now is that Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump win in November. And the last thing he needs

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Speaker 3: is a sideshow, you know, a bunch of folks auditioning

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Speaker 3: for a job. He needs to be able to focus

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Speaker 3: entirely on getting elected and whatever will help him in

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Speaker 3: terms of the VP pick will increase his chances in

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Speaker 3: odds the greatest of winning that election. That's the outcome

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Speaker 3: I want. In terms of the vice president selection process.

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Speaker 3: It's certainly a compliment to find your name on these lists,

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Speaker 3: but I can tell you I've no intention of engaging

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Speaker 3: in speculation. I'll let the speculators do that. My job

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Speaker 3: has been is going to continue to be to carry

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Speaker 3: on the momentum. I'm the only member of his administration

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Speaker 3: that's in the United States Senate. I have been advocating

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Speaker 3: from day one of arriving there for the policies that

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Speaker 3: President Trump so successfully implemented and had on the books

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Speaker 3: to move forward. So President Trump knows he's got a

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Speaker 3: very strong ally on me in any capacity, and right

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Speaker 3: now my focus is making certain that we are going

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Speaker 3: to be ready on day one in the United States

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Speaker 3: Senate to incorporate and deliver on the types of policy

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Speaker 3: changes that are absolutely necessary to get our economy back,

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Speaker 3: to get our national security back, to rebuild our military,

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Speaker 3: and again have foreign relations that actually advantage America rather

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Speaker 3: than every one of our adversaries. I was asking the

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Speaker 3: President literally just yesterday, who has won under Donald I

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Speaker 3: mean under Joe Biden's policies, And the hands down winner

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Speaker 3: every time you ask the question is generally China, and

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Speaker 3: the next best you know, the next best off tend

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Speaker 3: to be Iran, Russia, and all of our adversaries combined.

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Speaker 3: Those are the biggest winners under Joe Biden's policy, whether

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Speaker 3: it's the war he's waged on domestic energy that essentially

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Speaker 3: has allowed you know, energy prices to go up around

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Speaker 3: the world and allowed us to inadvertently fund Russia's war

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Speaker 3: on Ukraine, their refusal to impose or I should say, enforce,

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Speaker 3: the sanctions that are on Iran. I work very hard

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Speaker 3: to get those sanctions in place when I served in

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Speaker 3: the Trump administration. They immediately stopped and forcing them, and

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Speaker 3: we saw Iran's reserves go from single digit billions all

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Speaker 3: the way up to triple digit billions under Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: They've used those funds to basically dismantle peace in the

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Speaker 3: Middle East. They funded Hamas, they fund Hesbelah, they're funding

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Speaker 3: the hoodies right now, shutting down the Red Sea, now

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Speaker 3: everything every place you look. We have disasters that benefit

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Speaker 3: our adversaries. Those are the only winder winners under the

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Speaker 3: Biden administration's policies.

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Speaker 2: The series, Senator Hagerty, appreciate you being with us. Cool

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Speaker 2: for Clay to get to hang out with you, the

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Speaker 2: person there. I'll come to DC next time around.

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Speaker 1: So thank you about it. Great to be with us.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Thanks so much, appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton show.

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Speaker 1: I'm in our DC studios Buck in Miami where the

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Speaker 1: rain is coming down like crazy. Join now by someone

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Speaker 1: who is also a South Floridian. He is Congressman Byron

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Speaker 1: Donalds from the Great State of Florida. And you're jealous

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Speaker 1: because I'm in a T shirt and shorts. Yeah, I'm jealous.

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Speaker 5: Let's hot, missing the suit serve when something serious is happening.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately in Washington, we're not doing very serious things right now.

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Speaker 1: And you and Bucker both now South Floridians. I was

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Speaker 1: asking you, because you also grew up in New York,

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Speaker 1: when did you become aware that there was better weather

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Speaker 1: than where you lived in New York. So my wife's

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Speaker 1: from Michigan. We were talking off the air, and she

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Speaker 1: was like, until she came to the South, she had

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Speaker 1: no idea that there was places where it wasn't great

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Speaker 1: for months at a time. When did you When were

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Speaker 1: you like, man, this Florida is pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 5: It was my first winter in college because when I

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Speaker 5: got to Tallahassee, it was still August. It was nasty hot.

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Speaker 5: I was like, okay, well it's superhuman here, superhuman in

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Speaker 5: New York. It's not really much difference. It's just a

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Speaker 5: little bit hotter here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And then those winter months came, November came, and it's

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Speaker 5: in Tallahassee. Tallahassee gets gets cold, yeah, but not like

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Speaker 5: New York. And I was just like, oh, this is

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Speaker 5: this isn't too bad. Then when I moved to Naples.

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh, shoot, these snowbirds have this thing

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Speaker 5: completely right. You just change your change your time period

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Speaker 5: up north, down south, split the year and you'll be

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Speaker 5: good because the weather in Naples is beautiful from about

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Speaker 5: November through March. It's just flat, gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: Tallahassee is the Albany of North Florida for those who

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Speaker 2: don't know. So it's, you know, quite a place. I've

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Speaker 2: actually spent some time there. My in laws live there.

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Speaker 2: Believer Rock congressprid So.

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Speaker 1: I never thought about it that way. But you are correct.

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Speaker 1: That is exactly right. Thank you that you are exactly right. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, speaking of Florida stuff, we want to get in

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Speaker 2: the national scene. Trump the elections obviously all that too.

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Speaker 2: I hear from some people who know some things that well,

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Speaker 2: there's a couple of jobs you might be up in

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Speaker 2: the running four but at some point in the future,

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Speaker 2: would you be interested in being governor of this great

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Speaker 2: state of Florida.

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Speaker 5: I would. I would, but a lot of time between

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Speaker 5: now and then. Look, everybody knows, you know, Governor DeSantis,

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Speaker 5: he's terming out, and so it's going to be I

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Speaker 5: think a free for all for who's going to replace him.

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Speaker 5: A lot of good people on that list, but you know,

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Speaker 5: the voters will decide how that's going to go. I

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Speaker 5: don't think it's going to be that big of a race, honestly,

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Speaker 5: and so I probably all the press people in Florida

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Speaker 5: are like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, shoot, did you hear what he says?

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Speaker 5: You don't think it's gonna be a big field. I

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Speaker 5: just think that in governor's races it's different than if

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Speaker 5: you're dealing with a congressional race or a state house

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Speaker 5: race or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Because it takes so much resources to jump in compared

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Speaker 1: to sources.

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Speaker 5: It's big. It's really it's big money, man. I think

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Speaker 5: you're talking fifteen the thirty five million dollars or more.

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Speaker 5: And then you know at that level, people pretty much

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Speaker 5: are defined or people have a good understanding of who

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Speaker 5: people are, and so it's hard to cut through. So

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Speaker 5: I think, I don't really think it's going to be

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Speaker 5: a big, big field, but I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 5: real competition.

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Speaker 1: Well, Buck mentioned a couple potentially governor is up in

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Speaker 1: twenty six. You're also on the Trump VP list. What

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Speaker 1: has that been like because you're around Bucking mind's age,

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Speaker 1: you're a guy in your early forties. Is that a

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Speaker 1: crazy process to go through? The vice presidential I don't

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Speaker 1: even know what forms you fill out. I mean I

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Speaker 1: haven't filled out a form since FAFSA. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's anything like this, maybe a bar exam questionnaire? Like

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Speaker 1: what is that process?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, I'm not going to get into particulars,

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Speaker 5: but I will tell you that it's you have no control.

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Speaker 1: You basically are just you know.

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Speaker 5: Doing whatever you've been doing too to be on that list,

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Speaker 5: or for the president President Trump to basically say, you

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Speaker 5: know what, this person might be a good person. Let's

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Speaker 5: keep an eye on that person. So the way I

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Speaker 5: approach it is, I just do what I've been doing.

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Speaker 5: I don't really think much about it. I let everybody

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Speaker 5: else talk about it. You know, I've never really been

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Speaker 5: a never been a surrogate for a campaign before. That's

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Speaker 5: really interesting. And so I just said, you know what,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna just work hard at that. And what is

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Speaker 5: that like?

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Speaker 1: For people who don't know what a surrogate for a

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Speaker 1: campaign is? What does that mean? You're doing well?

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Speaker 5: That is like, you know, the campaign will make requests

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Speaker 5: for you to do different news stations or new segments,

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Speaker 5: and so you really just make yourself available to do that.

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Speaker 5: You know, the campaign will send talking points that kind

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Speaker 5: of stuff. I pretty much do what I want though,

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Speaker 5: so you know, it's it's cool, but I mean, listen,

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Speaker 5: I asked a couple of them. I'm like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm just out here just kind of free will and

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Speaker 5: doing what I want. Are you guys?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 5: They're like, oh no, no, keep going like you're good.

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Speaker 2: So we're speaking of Congress and Byron Donald's from Florida,

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Speaker 2: and as you see all this stuff, Congressman going on

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Speaker 2: the it's amazing. We're in an election cycle and we're

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Speaker 2: pretty deep into it. You know, we've got the presidential debate.

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Speaker 1: Just a few weeks away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got multiple cases still pending against Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: who is the de facto GOP nominee. But it seems like,

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Speaker 2: you know, we just talked to Senator Hagerty about this,

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Speaker 2: none of this legal stuff really seems to be having

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Speaker 2: the impact so far that certainly I think the Democrats

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Speaker 2: thought it would You do you see any of that

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Speaker 2: changing or at the end of the day, anybody who's

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Speaker 2: still thinking about this say in September October, is it

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Speaker 2: going to be you know, the economy, border crime, the

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Speaker 2: you know those kitchen table issues that we always hear

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Speaker 2: about every cycle.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's really gonna matter at all.

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Speaker 5: And I think the reason why it's not going to

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Speaker 5: matter is because the Democrats and the media, I mean

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Speaker 5: they're one and the same. They have been pushing this

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Speaker 5: narrative for a year and a half against you know,

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Speaker 5: the most defined human being on the planet, like it's

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump is universally defined. You know who he is,

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Speaker 5: you know what he is, you know what he's not.

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Speaker 5: And so they've been pushing this constant narrative even if

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Speaker 5: you go back to twenty sixteen about you know, he's

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Speaker 5: a Russian agent or oh no, he's corrupt, or oh no,

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Speaker 5: he's impeded. All this craziness, there's always been this media driven,

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Speaker 5: democrat driven chaos, and so people are just looking at

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Speaker 5: it like, oh well, it's just one more thing to them,

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Speaker 5: because it's really all become white noise at this point,

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Speaker 5: and so people are seeing through it. It's not even

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Speaker 5: something that bothers them anymore. And then the people who

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Speaker 5: actually dig into this stuff realize it's just political and

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Speaker 5: it's just persecution and anything that sucks, anything, it's disgusting.

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Speaker 5: And I think that goes to the two hundred million

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Speaker 5: dollars that he raised right after the verdict in Lower

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Speaker 5: Manhattan because people know it's bs and so it's not

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Speaker 5: going to matter, it's not going to play in. And

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Speaker 5: then when you add in Joe Biden, you know, I

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Speaker 5: call him the Master of Disaster. That's who he is.

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Speaker 5: The thing just his presidency has been awful, and you

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Speaker 5: look at the outcomes of his presidency, people already upset

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Speaker 5: and then they see that they just still can't get

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump. You know, they just can't get away from him.

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Speaker 5: They have Trump Derangement syndrome, and I think people are

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Speaker 5: going to largely ignore the cases.

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Speaker 2: So, speaking for my colleague here or on an issue

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Speaker 2: that he brings up pretty regularly, Congressman Clay has thought

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Speaker 2: for some time or has pointed to the polls which

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Speaker 2: we agree show this, but there's a possibility that Trump

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Speaker 2: may outperform with young black male voters in this election.

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Speaker 1: We actually have a steak bet on this, so you know,

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Speaker 1: we got a bunch of steak bets, So I'm curious

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Speaker 1: how you would break this down.

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Speaker 5: But yes, well, first of all, what kind of stick

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Speaker 5: will be talking about?

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Speaker 1: The highest in steak you can find? Oh, yes, how

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Speaker 1: can I get Can I get him on this action? Maybe?

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Speaker 1: So depends on what your answer. Welcome to come first? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, So the question Buck's asking because I think

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Speaker 1: you're going to be on his side on one of these,

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Speaker 1: because we were talking about off air. But let's start

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Speaker 1: with this one. I think that there are going to

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Speaker 1: be a lot of black men in particular who are

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Speaker 1: open to voting Trump that haven't been in the past.

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Speaker 1: And our bet is I think twenty five percent of

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Speaker 1: black men voters are going to support Donald Trump overall overall,

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Speaker 1: I say, I would love it, Congressman, but I do

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Speaker 1: not see that happening.

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Speaker 5: Oh I see that happening. I'm with Yeah, I'm with

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Speaker 5: you on that one, Clay. So let me explain a

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Speaker 5: couple of two things, really two simple things. First, Biden's

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Speaker 5: been Biden has put serious uh pressure and pain on

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Speaker 5: the pocket of a man. Yeah, everything's more expensive. I'm

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Speaker 5: not making enough money to catch up. I was doing

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Speaker 5: much better when Trump was Trump was in office than

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Speaker 5: I am with Biden. That the MSNBC did it a

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Speaker 5: couple of months ago, that barbershop talk, and the guys

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Speaker 5: were like, man, we've only known two presidents and he's

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Speaker 5: been better. That's a real thing. Like it's real, it's

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Speaker 5: not it's not a mirage. It's not just something that

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Speaker 5: blip popped up in Poland. Second thing is this gender

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Speaker 5: bluidity mess that the Dems constantly push Black men in

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Speaker 5: our country. Ain't for that. They're just not for that.

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Speaker 5: They want their sons to be sons. They want their

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Speaker 5: sons to grow up to be men. They want their

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Speaker 5: daughters to be ladies and women, they want them to

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Speaker 5: grow up to become women. They're not with all of

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Speaker 5: that stuff. They respect, they respect people who might be

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Speaker 5: lesbian or gay, bisexual, whatever, but they're not with this

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Speaker 5: whole puberty blockery. You're not gonna tell me what my

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Speaker 5: child is saying in school mess. They are not for that.

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Speaker 1: Or girls having to compete against dudes pretending to be girls.

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Speaker 5: Really not for that. And so those are the two things.

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Speaker 5: While you're seeing that shift, immigration is now popped into

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Speaker 5: that because with immigration they're saying, well, wait a minute,

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Speaker 5: I'm doing everything I can to build myself and then

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Speaker 5: you're gonna let people just come in by the millions

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Speaker 5: and just hand them stuff that's not sitting well with

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Speaker 5: them either. And the immag raation pieces what's starting to

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Speaker 5: have some black women say, wait a minute, So it's

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Speaker 5: a real thing. My my friend Wesley Hunt and who's

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Speaker 5: on Capitol Hill with me out of Texas. Wesley and

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Speaker 5: I talk about this. I got that that mess in

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia where the Democrats or gaslight in the line about me,

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Speaker 5: that's all Wesley's fault.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna blame Wesley on National We don't know that story.

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Speaker 1: What happened.

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Speaker 5: We were in Philadelphia at a black outreach event in Philly,

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Speaker 5: and in that in that time, we were talking just

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Speaker 5: about economics, and then families came up. Actually a black

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Speaker 5: woman sitting in the front row got up and started

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Speaker 5: talking about her family history and what she wanted, the

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Speaker 5: things that went onto her life and what she wanted to.

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Speaker 1: See going forward.

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Speaker 5: Wesley started talking about his family makeup and his family background,

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Speaker 5: and then I started talking about mine, and it was

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Speaker 5: three different stories. We're all black people, but it was

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Speaker 5: just three different stories. And so then I just went

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Speaker 5: into the talking about how yes, yes, al Sharpton and

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Speaker 5: King Jefferies and abiding campaign. During the Jim Crow era,

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Speaker 5: which was terrible for black people, the black family was

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Speaker 5: far more together, far more united in a lot of respects,

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Speaker 5: because they had to be to fight the oppression they

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Speaker 5: were dealing with. But when we were having this conversation

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Speaker 5: in Philly, we're just having a it was a room

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Speaker 5: about one hundred black people. We were just in there,

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Speaker 5: just talking, having a good time, and it came up,

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Speaker 5: and so they took that to say that, oh, I

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Speaker 5: thought Jim Crow was great. Yeah, it's the stupidest thing

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Speaker 5: I ever heard in my life. I mean, these people acted

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Speaker 5: like I wanted beatlejuice to appear, and it's so dumb.

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Speaker 5: But this is the gas lighting in the line that

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Speaker 5: happens in politics. And that's another thing that black men

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Speaker 5: in particular, but people in our country are starting to reject,

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Speaker 5: is the gas lighting, the race baiting, the lying, the

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Speaker 5: politicizing of comments and of certain topics to distract from

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Speaker 5: what's really happening in the country. So to your point,

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Speaker 5: the twenty five percent, I think that's real. I think

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Speaker 5: it's very real. And if through campaigns and see how

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Speaker 5: this thing goes, if you can move that to thirty percent.

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Speaker 1: Oh, this thing is over.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's definitely over because the key states are effectively

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Speaker 2: going to be determined by white working class voters and

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Speaker 2: black voters. That's it, right, Like overall is demographic all

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Speaker 2: black voters and then white working class voters in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: Just based on the numbers, there are a lot of

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Speaker 2: Latino voters voters, but not as many in those key

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Speaker 2: swing states. So if Trump gets twenty five percent of

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Speaker 2: the or higher of the black mail vote, if he

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Speaker 2: even got into what probably fifteen or twenty percent of

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Speaker 2: the overall black vote, the election's over.

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Speaker 5: At fifteen percent of the overall black vote. It's it's

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Speaker 5: pretty much game, set match. I think the one thing

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Speaker 5: that's important in this election cycle as a Republican that

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Speaker 5: I got to make sure we put out there to

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Speaker 5: my colleagues and also the all the consultants who may

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Speaker 5: or may not be listening. Just because you have a

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Speaker 5: segment of black voters who are disaffected and pissed off

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Speaker 5: with Joe Biden, that does not mean that they're now

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Speaker 5: voting Republican. That could mean they're just going to stay

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Speaker 5: home and not vote, or they might go third party.

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Speaker 1: So the work that needs.

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Speaker 5: To be done by Republicans to move those voters into

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Speaker 5: our column, which is the real work that needs to

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Speaker 5: be happening over the next couple months. If you could

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Speaker 5: do that, that's when you start talking about it could

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Speaker 5: really be twenty five. You could be plus twenty percent

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Speaker 5: of the black vote overall.

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Speaker 2: Well, Donalds, appreciate you being with us. And if you

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Speaker 2: and Clay go out for drinks, please keep him out

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Speaker 2: of trouble. And I'm sorry you're gonna have to loan

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Speaker 2: him a blazer and a tie. You know, he's dressed

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Speaker 2: like he's a Jerry Garcia on tour or something.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, to give Buck credit, you don't

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Speaker 1: think that they're going to drop Joe Biden.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think they're gonna jump through. I don't

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Speaker 5: think Joe stands. Yep, that's real quick. All I'll say is,

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Speaker 5: and I know you guys got to pay bills. It's

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Speaker 5: not even so much about Joe anymore. Is that nobody

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Speaker 5: else has his level of Yeah, so now you've got

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Speaker 5: to explain a whole new person to the Democrat side

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: They'll vote for the name, even if the guy doesn't

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Speaker 2: look like he can function, which I think is pretty obvious. Congressman,

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Speaker 2: thanks for being with us. Appreciate you, sir.

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Speaker 1: Well, welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. I'm

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Speaker 1: in DC. Buck is in Miami. I am joined now

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Speaker 1: So that is a good endorsement so far as I'm concerned. Okay,

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Speaker 1: encourage you to all go read it, but I want

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Speaker 1: to start with we're talking off air. You are one

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Speaker 1: of eleven children, yes, or is it the second oldest.

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Speaker 6: Second oldest, oldest daughter? So I like to think of

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Speaker 6: myself as the boss.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I think the ages are thirty to eleven. Yes,

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Speaker 1: same mom and dad, same mom and dad. Buck is

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Speaker 1: one of four and he's like in New York City

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Speaker 1: that's considered crazy. What was it like to grow up

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Speaker 1: as one of eleven children?

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Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, it was so much fun.

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Speaker 6: It was just always, you know, we're always having a party,

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Speaker 6: just cleaning the kitchen after dinner, which we all did.

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Speaker 6: By the way, I think people think it's probably really

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Speaker 6: hard to have eleven kids, but the kids do the chores,

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Speaker 6: so I don't think it's that bad.

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Speaker 1: So they did on the farms. And your homeschooled too.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we were homeschooled. So and I'm so grateful

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Speaker 6: to my mom for homeschooling. Yes, she taught me how

865
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 6: to read when I was really little, So now extra

866
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 6: kudos to her that I wrote a book, because I

867
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 6: think that I would attribute that in large part to

868
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 6: my home education. But it was so much fun. Christmas

869
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 6: was so much fun, always a party. We would literally,

870
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 6: you know, turn on dance music when you're cleaning the

871
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 6: kitchen and all the little kids are like, you know,

872
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 6: it's like having all these cousins around all the time.

873
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 6: I think was what most people would compare it to.

874
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 7: It's a blast.

875
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: Well, that all sounds like a lot of fun. If

876
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: you want to take kids yourself now too, I do.

877
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 7: I would love to.

878
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know how to make this transition

879
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: into your book from there, from all the happiness and

880
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 2: joy of a large and loving family into some of this.

881
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: So I'm just going to steer off the highway here

882
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: and take us into this.

883
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 2: So the book d trans two true stories of escaping

884
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 2: the gender ideology cult. I've got my copy here holding

885
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 2: up for our VIPs they can see. So in this

886
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: you're not really you know, it's not that you're in

887
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: the role of expert, because this is what they always

888
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: try to undermine anyone who talks with this.

889
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: You know, are you an expert? You've even seen this?

890
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure Mary, Margaret will those sit will say, I

891
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: can't tell if that's a boy or a girl.

892
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm not a biologist. This kind became a meme for

893
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: a while, but.

894
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: You're reporting on the stories of people who went through

895
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: this themselves. In that reporting, what did you find that

896
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: everyone needs to know about?

897
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, so these are the real reported stories of detransitioners,

898
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 6: which are people and in this book, young people who

899
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 6: tried to do what we would say is.

900
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 7: Unthinkable to change their gender.

901
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 6: So for many of these people, and let's just say

902
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 6: the girls, they're teenagers, they're going on social media and

903
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 6: they're seeing all these representations of masculinity and femininity that

904
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 6: are really confusing them, because we know our culture is

905
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 6: struggling so much with that nowadays. Anyways, it's toxic masculinity

906
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 6: or toxic feminity. There's no happy, normal, healthy in between.

907
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 6: And so a lot of these girls told me that

908
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 6: they're on social media, they're seeing all these beautiful women

909
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 6: online and thinking, I don't look anything like that, you know,

910
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 6: the perfectly sculpted, sexy women who get all kinds of

911
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 6: male affirmation. And these are twelve and thirteen year old girls.

912
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 6: You think, I don't look anything like that. And then

913
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 6: some of these girls told me they were Then you know,

914
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 6: they're being exposed to pornography online and they're thinking, Okay,

915
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 6: this is really humiliated, integrading for a lot of women.

916
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 6: I'm scared of that. And then they're being told by

917
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 6: gender activists, Oh, you feel like you don't like these things.

918
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 6: You don't like how womanhood is betrayed us because you're

919
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 6: not a girl. It's because you're a guy. And that's

920
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 6: a weird fact pattern that I found with a lot

921
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 6: of these girls, and I was surprised by because I

922
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 6: think a lot of the time we hear, you know, oh,

923
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 6: they were exposed to a lot of gender content online.

924
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 7: That's not the whole picture.

925
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 6: It's it's a whole confusing cocktail of social media that

926
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 6: a lot of these girls are being subjected to. And

927
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 6: so you know, from that point on, what happens is

928
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 6: these girls say, Okay, I think I'm a guy. They

929
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 6: start talking to therapists. You know, their parents might take

930
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 6: them to a therapist, and the therapists will tell these

931
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 6: girls and their parents, oh, yeah, you are a boy,

932
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 6: first of all, and to the parents, if you don't

933
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 6: affirm your transgender identity, she's going to hurt herself or

934
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 6: kill herself. And the exact line that they give them

935
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 6: is would you rather have a dead daughter or a

936
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 6: living son? And actually I've said that so many times now,

937
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 6: but every time I say it gives me chill because

938
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 6: it's a threat to the parents, saying, if you do

939
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 6: not comply with our ideology, your kid will kill themselves

940
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 6: and it will be your fault. And so these parents

941
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 6: love their kids. They want to do it's best for them.

942
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 6: They don't really know better. You know, maybe they're not.

943
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 7: Super politically in tune.

944
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 6: They're not equipped with the resources, so they think, okay, well,

945
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 6: the therapists and doctors are telling me this is best

946
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 6: for my kid, I'm going to do it. And unfortunately

947
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 6: a lot of these parents should have gone with their gut,

948
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 6: because in a lot of these cases, the parents' initial

949
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 6: reaction was right, their kids should not have done this.

950
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 6: And unfortunately, what they'll do is they'll get the kids

951
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 6: started on let's say, puberty blockers. If they're really young.

952
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 6: That just stops your puberty. It's very it makes a

953
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 6: lot of sense. You know, it's puberty blocker. But what

954
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 6: we don't realize is we don't actually know the full

955
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 6: effects of what these puberty blockers are doing to these kids.

956
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 6: And I'm not just saying that the so called experts,

957
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 6: like the WPAT doctors who just got exposed for knowing

958
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 6: that these things were experimental and hiding it. It came

959
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 6: out recently that they knew that puberty blockers into stosterone

960
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 6: were causing tumors and girls. They knew that pubity blockers

961
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 6: in toestosterone were making girls infertile, and they just kind

962
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 6: of didn't say anything because it doesn't fit the narrative.

963
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 6: And so all of these things are experimental, but they're

964
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 6: putting kids on them, and then after the puberty blockers,

965
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 6: they'll put them on tistosterone if they're girl, or ASTROGENEF

966
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 6: or a guy. And oh my gosh, I could talk

967
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 6: all day about the effects of these things. You know,

968
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 6: we think about surgeries because they're really gruesome and horrible,

969
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 6: But the hormones, they change your muscles, they change your

970
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 6: bone structure, they change where your fat distributes on your body,

971
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 6: You lose hair, you gain hair. You know, the emotional

972
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 6: effects were freaky to me. Some of these girls told me.

973
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 6: First of all, they lost the ability to cry, so

974
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 6: they would feel this like intense emotional urge to cry,

975
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 6: and then just nothing would happen, so they couldn't even

976
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 6: find the relief that comes with crying. And for some

977
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 6: of them, they lost the ability to scream, which as

978
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 6: a woman, I don't know if men experience this. As

979
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 6: a woman, I feel like a very common dream is

980
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 6: you're running away from someone, You're trying to scream and

981
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 6: you can't. Well, that's their reality now, that's their their life.

982
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 6: So many other physical and emotional side effects. And then

983
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 6: once they've been on the testosterone for a while, which

984
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 6: also causes rage attacks really scary for the girls where

985
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 6: they just you know, they feel this really intense rage

986
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 6: that they have to externalize. One girl told me she

987
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 6: was covered in bruises because she was just like punch

988
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 6: stings all the time trying to externalize this rage. So

989
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 6: after they've been on that for a while, the doctors

990
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 6: will tell them, oh, you don't feel better, it's because

991
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 6: you need to get your next step the surgery, and

992
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 6: that is the double mis ectomy. And a lot of

993
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 6: girls will do this. A bunch of the girls in

994
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 6: my book did this. They removed their breasts forever. And

995
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 6: what's so sad about this and crazy about this is

996
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 6: they're so naive in some of these cases that some

997
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 6: of these girls think their breast will grow back, like

998
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 6: they're so lacking and informed consent, that they don't have

999
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 6: any understanding of basic human biology and think, oh, maybe

1000
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 6: they'll grow back eventually.

1001
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: We're talking about the book d Trands The True Stories

1002
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: of Escaping the Gender Ideology Cult. Mary Margaret Olahan is

1003
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: the author. When you see, for instance, State of Florida,

1004
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: this is a big story right now, State of Florida

1005
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: says that a judge in the State of Florida says

1006
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: that the state shouldn't be able to say, hey, teenagers

1007
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: shouldn't have these kinds of surgeries and that that they

1008
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 1: should be permitted. Almost no one is telling the story

1009
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: of kids who are teenagers and decide to transition and

1010
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: then think, hey, I was just a teenager, I made

1011
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: a bad choice. I want to go back. Why is that?

1012
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: And what do these people tell you that you think

1013
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: it's important for other people out there with teenagers to know.

1014
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, the reason they're not telling us these stories is

1015
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 6: because they don't fit the narrative. Every major institution in

1016
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 6: our country right now is pushing the gender ideology narrative.

1017
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 6: If you look at how mainstream media talks about this,

1018
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 6: and even how they're talking about the Florida decision right now.

1019
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 6: They'll say that a Florida judge blocked the anti trans law,

1020
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 6: or this law banning medical care for trans youth. That

1021
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 6: is propaganda language.

1022
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 7: That's euphemistic language.

1023
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 6: What we're talking about here is transgender surgeries, hormones, and

1024
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 6: puberty blockers. But you will never see that spelled out

1025
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 6: in a headline from one of these outlets because they've

1026
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 6: been told by Glad, by the HRC, by the ACLU,

1027
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 6: don't use that language because it's offensive to trans people.

1028
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 6: Why is it offensive to trans people? Because it's too articulate.

1029
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 6: You're giving people information that's going to make them vote

1030
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 6: a certain way because most Americans don't support this stuff.

1031
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 7: So I personally absolutely.

1032
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,439
Speaker 6: Have a b in my bonnet for the way the

1033
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 6: mainstream media covers this issue, and I think that they're

1034
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 6: doing themselves a huge disservice by not just being plain

1035
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 6: with us about the realities of this situation. These stories

1036
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 6: that I'm telling in my book deserve to be heard.

1037
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 6: These are young people who's suffered excruciating pain mentally and physically.

1038
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 6: They needed help, they were not given it, and instead,

1039
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 6: they were pushed down this path. And now that they're

1040
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 6: speaking out and saying I deeply regret this, no one cares.

1041
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 6: These doctors that push them down this path, the activists

1042
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 6: that push them down this path. The media figures who

1043
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 6: tout trans kids or trans they don't care. It's it

1044
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 6: doesn't fit the narrative. And so the young people I

1045
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 6: talked to for this book told me, we exist. We

1046
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 6: want people to hear our stories. We don't want them

1047
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 6: to just pity us. We want them to look at

1048
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 6: our stories and say, Okay, we shouldn't be fast tracking

1049
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 6: kids down these gender transitions, and we should be allowing

1050
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 6: for multiple perspectives on this. Because if you are like

1051
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 6: this judge in Florida and you're gonna say, oh, this

1052
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 6: law is coming from an anti trans perspective, maybe you

1053
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 6: need to pay a little more attention to the picture

1054
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 6: at large. This is a very serious issue. It's not

1055
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 6: anti trans to care about kids, and we should be

1056
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 6: paying more attention to it.

1057
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: What are the when when you look into this? Mary Margan, Again,

1058
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: the book is d Trands True stories of escaping the

1059
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: gender ideology cult. Medical professionals, there must be some who

1060
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 2: recognize how damaging this is and and the cost to children.

1061
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: Are they are there more of them, more willing to

1062
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: speak out? Are they afraid they're going to go after

1063
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 2: their licenses? And we saw a lot of that during

1064
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 2: COVID for example, where are the where's the medical community

1065
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: on this right now?

1066
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 6: So I would say that in general, we're seeing a

1067
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 6: lot of cowardice on this front. So many of these

1068
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 6: doctors and medical professionals have just remained silent, and you know,

1069
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 6: I get it, and to a certain extent, because they

1070
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 6: do have their jobs to keep in mind, Yes, you

1071
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 6: will be canceled for speaking out on this, but there

1072
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 6: is hope in this area. Just this week, I believe

1073
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 6: it was actually last week I reported exclusively at the

1074
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 6: Daily Signal on this declaration that all of these doctors

1075
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 6: and nurses put out saying, we are so far behind

1076
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 6: Europe on this. Europe is taking steps to protect kids.

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Speaker 6: United States medical groups need to get it together and

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Speaker 6: pay attention to the fact that these procedures are harming children.

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Speaker 6: And incredibly, this is a declaration that these this group

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Speaker 6: of doctors and nurses put together. Elon Musk was promoting

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Speaker 6: it on Twitter and the last time I looked. I

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Speaker 6: think it has something like fifty nine million views, which

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Speaker 6: is insane. So that was exciting to me. And then

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Speaker 6: also there's this doctor in Texas. His name is doctor

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Speaker 6: eton hein Heim, and he is a whistleblower from a

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Speaker 6: Texas hospital. And this story has not gotten enough attention.

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Speaker 7: This is crazy.

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Speaker 6: He's a whistleblower from a Texas hospital who started speaking

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Speaker 6: out and saying this hospital is transing children and this

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Speaker 6: is my experience knowing about it, and the DOJ is

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Speaker 6: now coming after him. He's facing prison time for speaking

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Speaker 6: out about this hospital. So eton Heim is his name.

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Speaker 6: I think that when we look back on this era,

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Speaker 6: you know, hopefully when we look back on this era,

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Speaker 6: he will be one of the figures that stands out

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Speaker 6: as one of the people who put his body on

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Speaker 6: the line and said no, I'm not gonna stay silent here,

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Speaker 6: and he's being persecuted for it. But we do have

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Speaker 6: some figures that are standing up for kids.

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Speaker 7: In this area.

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Speaker 6: And I feel like it probably sound dramatic saying we're

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Speaker 6: standing up for kids in this area, but that's really

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Speaker 6: what doctor eaton him and others are doing when they're

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Speaker 6: saying I'm not going to remain quiet. We are performing

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Speaker 6: experimental and dangerous procedures on kids and then calling it care.

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Speaker 6: Even the White House is calling it care. The White

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Speaker 6: House put out messaging saying that so called gender affirming

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Speaker 6: care is crucial. They literally use that word for the

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Speaker 6: health of trans youth. And I like to be a

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Speaker 6: little bit annoying about this. What they're saying there is

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Speaker 6: transgender surgeries, hormones, and puberty blockers are crucial for the

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Speaker 6: health of trans youth. Well, first of all, we know

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Speaker 6: that's not true. That's a that's a lie. We're finding

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Speaker 6: more and more recently that these types of things actually

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Speaker 6: are detrimental to the mental health of kids.

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Speaker 7: Who would have thought.

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Speaker 6: But you know that's coming from the White House, it's

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Speaker 6: coming from Hollywood, it's coming from corporations, it's coming from

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Speaker 6: our media. And so I'm thankful to doctors like doctor

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Speaker 6: eaton Heim and to these doctors. I believe it's an

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Speaker 6: American Academy of Pediatrics. Something I'm messingediatricians.

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Speaker 1: They just said this is wrong, right, that under eighteens

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't be getting this.

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Speaker 6: Exactly, And you know what, that's amazing that they said that.

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Speaker 6: But also it seems very obvious, right, but they had

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Speaker 6: this declaration. I encourage everyone to read the whole thing.

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Speaker 6: Super interesting. They lay out all the statistics, They lay

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Speaker 6: out why we're behind Europe on this, why Europe has

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Speaker 6: been taking steps to curtail this in European countries and

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