WEBVTT - Mindfulness and Motivation with Devi Brown

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the Duval and this is Conversations with the Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's guest is a master well being, educator, a healer,

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<v Speaker 1>a storyteller, author and host a deeply well podcast. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>welcome my good friend Debbie Brown live on with you. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>oh little thall, I want to introduce a special guests.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not like Envy just say special guests, just

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<v Speaker 1>to say it, I said, because this woman is really

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<v Speaker 1>special to me, my friend, you know, my I guess

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<v Speaker 1>what else can I call you? My? Uh? What? What's what?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your title now as far as in the

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<v Speaker 1>realm of the earth, what is your type the earth? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know how to use those things?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your type of that? I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>you call you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my Instagram bio and my website bio says master

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<v Speaker 2>while being educator and multidisciplinary healer.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's what she is to me. God damn it,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what she is to me. And I'm not just

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<v Speaker 1>saying that because she read is to me because she

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<v Speaker 1>helped me at a time where I was fucked up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I was. I'm gonna let her introduce herself

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<v Speaker 1>a little more because she could tell you more about

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<v Speaker 1>who she is more than I am. Let me introduce

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Brown, Debbie Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, what's up? You look so good? How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm chilling man, you see you know, you know I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm blessed. You know, I'm blessed as a mother for

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you coming over here. It's it's crazy that

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<v Speaker 1>I met you on my show, on my show, because

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<v Speaker 1>I really can trying to get on your show because

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to interview me. You know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I could interview you like that

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<v Speaker 1>because shiit, I need you more than you need me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. But first to tell them

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<v Speaker 1>who you are with and what you've been doing in

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<v Speaker 1>the game and how you evolved into who you are now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh or we ain't got that much time. Well, we

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<v Speaker 2>originally meant like back back, back, back, back in the day,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll never forget the moment I met you, like

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<v Speaker 2>I will never ever ever forget it. Twitter had just

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<v Speaker 2>started and at the time, I was working in broadcasting,

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<v Speaker 2>so I used to work in hip hop and entertainment

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<v Speaker 2>and radio, TV, all that kind of stuff, And I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing that in La at the time, and I remember,

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<v Speaker 2>like Charlemagne would come up to LA from time to time,

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<v Speaker 2>both of our brother and you came up to the

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<v Speaker 2>radio station with him, and we were all going to

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<v Speaker 2>go to a party together or something. And I remember

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<v Speaker 2>I had I mean, I had seen you on TV

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<v Speaker 2>and I heard so many things about you, and you

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<v Speaker 2>came up there and you were just like Twitter had

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<v Speaker 2>just started. And I remember you sat at my desk

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<v Speaker 2>and you were like, watch this, and you opened up

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<v Speaker 2>your Twitter and literally like every millisecond it kept refreshing

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like thousands and thousands and thousands before

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<v Speaker 2>tweeting you, I was like, what the hell is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>What is this? I'll never forget what I think I

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<v Speaker 2>had just got on. But it like you at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning Twitter, like it was like big if you had

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred followers, like that was.

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<v Speaker 1>So early that was there at that time. Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget. One time I was in DC and

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<v Speaker 1>I was at this party with J Cole's. It was Wallet,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a couple other people that I don't remember everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>but we was all there and this when Twitter was big,

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<v Speaker 1>and this when I realized so much power. I just

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted one thing as soon as I pressed seeing everybody

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<v Speaker 1>in the club looked down at their phone, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>when I was like, Yo, this is way too much power.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. It was a louder and

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<v Speaker 1>that's when I realized. I was like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the world now, this was almost this had to be

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<v Speaker 1>almost fourteen fourteen years ago, you know it, say it again.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was like two thousand and eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn, that's a long time. And so I would know

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<v Speaker 1>you for almost almost we almost ever dubbed that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but I'm so much younger than you, but

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<v Speaker 2>we are like we have known each other a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I like being old, though I enjoined being old

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<v Speaker 1>because I've always seen myself as the old person, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I just didn't think getting being old was going

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<v Speaker 1>to become this quick, like this shit wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo, like so fast. And I feel like the pandemic

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<v Speaker 2>sped it up because I feel I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the world lookers. I feel like everything that happened

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<v Speaker 1>in the pandemic, I already seen it coming. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like it's sped up the rest of work because

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<v Speaker 1>nothing changed. And just let let us know that we

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<v Speaker 1>already had a lot of this technology sitting there because

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<v Speaker 1>all this didn't been here. The stuff we using right now,

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<v Speaker 1>this shit been here. It's just we didn't think about

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<v Speaker 1>using it till we had no choice, and now we

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<v Speaker 1>can't get off this ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo. It's honestly like, I feel like there needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be a class action lost to it at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's like we didn't know what it was doing

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<v Speaker 2>to our brains when we all signed up, right like

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<v Speaker 2>now you knew, like you knew your neural pathways were

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<v Speaker 2>about to get, you know, harder.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of understood, like I said, when I did that,

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<v Speaker 1>like little stuff like that, when I tweeted in the

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<v Speaker 1>club and saw everybody, I understood the power feel understood.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if it's in the wrong hands, like it can

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<v Speaker 1>really be finessing the wrong ways on people. Because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like reading. When you read something, you reading it in

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<v Speaker 1>your brain, so you in your mind you're thinking you

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<v Speaker 1>really know what you're talking about. And that's the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing with social media. So if you read something, you

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<v Speaker 1>really thinking that you learning, but you're really learning maybe

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<v Speaker 1>learning wrong, you know, So so that's the algorithm.

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<v Speaker 2>Will feed anything that's really inside of you. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>there's this old, this really beautiful old quote and wisdom traditions,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like, you know, you, you are the beast

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<v Speaker 2>you choose to feed. You know, are you gonna feed

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<v Speaker 2>your ego or are you gonna feed your soul? And

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's how the algorithm on social works

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<v Speaker 2>like it will just further amplify kind of the truth

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<v Speaker 2>of the current version of who you are, like what

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<v Speaker 2>you what you're really thinking about the way you see

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<v Speaker 2>the world in yourself, and so you keep having it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you have propercy. You have to jump in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the programming, because because if you don't program it,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna it's gonna program you. And so what I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of do the little exercises I always did. I

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<v Speaker 1>try to I try to follow a ship that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know shit about. You know what I'm saying. I did, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like certain ship, not because I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's pleased, because I know if I like that, that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna bring all that shit over here, you see what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So I kind of look the dead when

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<v Speaker 1>you understand what you're playing, when you kind of even

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<v Speaker 1>though it's still gonna get your regardless, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, because sometimes you ever notice, sometimes you can,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you could think of some shit. Don't even

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<v Speaker 1>say that shit pop up? It's powerful. So but you're

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<v Speaker 1>the person to know how to detach way from it too, though,

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<v Speaker 1>because you understand how to get away from it. So

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<v Speaker 1>what are some of the exercise do you do to

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<v Speaker 1>detach yourself from that type of shit? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, I really started looking at it very seriously,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when I became a mom, because you start to

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<v Speaker 2>notice the mindless things that your body naturally does, and

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<v Speaker 2>then your child kind of really observing that, like what

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<v Speaker 2>is that? What are you doing? Or fighting for your attention?

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<v Speaker 2>And you're like, you know, I think for me, I

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, oh, my child doesn't need to fight

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<v Speaker 2>for my attention. This isn't more important. But why do

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<v Speaker 2>I feel such a connection or why is it the

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<v Speaker 2>absent minded thing that I pick up? So I did

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<v Speaker 2>a few things from my social media, Like a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago, I went on a big friend perge.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I had to give very realistic about how

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<v Speaker 2>much time I actually had, Like first and foremost, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be an excellent mother to my child, like

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<v Speaker 2>he and I both deserve that, and that requires you

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<v Speaker 2>to prioritize your life differently down like in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the depths of the nuance of it, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think too, It's like I just feel so connected

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<v Speaker 2>to the way I'm serving right now in my purpose

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't I don't want to have other people's

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts or ideas on my brain. Like I'm curious about

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<v Speaker 2>the shit I'm curious about, and I have the brain

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<v Speaker 2>and the ability and the heart to manifest any and

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<v Speaker 2>all of it. So I don't want to be influenced

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<v Speaker 2>or too consumed with like truly the smallest details of

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<v Speaker 2>people's lives, like if I met you ten years ago

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<v Speaker 2>and we haven't talked or lived in the same state,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to know what you're reading. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to know what you're eating, like God bless absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>no beef fond from Afar. But like, our brains can

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<v Speaker 2>only hold so much, and I'm here with work to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have a lot of love to give and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of support I'd like to give in the

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<v Speaker 2>ways that I'm able, And so I just had to

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<v Speaker 2>be clear about what feeds me and what leaps my energy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did like a big friend fast, I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, I just looked out my life from

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<v Speaker 2>like acquaintances to casual relationships to deep relationships, to relationships

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<v Speaker 2>that are just rooted in nostalgia, and I thought, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what are the ones that are really meaningful for me

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<v Speaker 2>to feed and pay attention to right now? I'd rather

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<v Speaker 2>give less more of me than spread myself on a

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<v Speaker 2>surface level for everybody. So I did like a mass

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<v Speaker 2>unfollow and then I just over two years slowly started

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<v Speaker 2>following people back, like I follow a handful of people,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just people that I really think about and

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, I want to be more actively engaged

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<v Speaker 2>or work stuff. And then I pretty much put everybody

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<v Speaker 2>on mute, no disrespect, but like I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>post some time, and I don't want to get caught

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<v Speaker 2>there looking at stories and all that stuff and liking

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff. So I put people on mute, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I go check on people from time to time.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I actually have a lock box at my house.

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<v Speaker 2>It's this pretty cool like mindfulness tool that someone sent me,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a box that has a timer on it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called like mindful box. I think. I hope I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting that right because I really do like it. And

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<v Speaker 2>usually at the end of my workday, like I'll shut

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<v Speaker 2>it down around four and then I want to give

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<v Speaker 2>my son time until it's bedtime, so I'll put it

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<v Speaker 2>in the box. I'll set the alarm for three four hours,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that keeps my hands off it. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm working with right now, and it's made it better.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I've worked on. I think I found

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<v Speaker 1>piece where I think you really at piece where you

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<v Speaker 1>can be in the world around these crazy motherfuckers and

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<v Speaker 1>try and try to make a difference. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like because to me, I can cut off

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people, but I don't really I don't

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<v Speaker 1>it would it would defeat my purpose on what I

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<v Speaker 1>think I should be here for. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I really don't need social media, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>the world needs me for social media. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. It's like the balance of it. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I have to be able to be strong enough

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<v Speaker 1>to go like if I showed y'all, Like me and

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<v Speaker 1>Charlamagne talk about this all the time when our social media,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people couldn't handle a lot of shit

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<v Speaker 1>that I dies, and I wouldn't even like when I

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<v Speaker 1>see people fold on there, I don't even feel I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand why they fold, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't fold off of because I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I know how to separate, so I've always been able

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<v Speaker 1>to test it to because I guess I started before

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<v Speaker 1>before the social media, so I can I understand what

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<v Speaker 1>it is, but I can understand how I can break

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<v Speaker 1>especially a woman down. Like if you what they just

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<v Speaker 1>have to be you might be talk all day long,

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<v Speaker 1>but that one day it just fucks you up, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. So I can understand it. But

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I just feel like I just have to

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<v Speaker 1>God damn like I have to. Like I'm a people's person.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm here for the people, so I

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<v Speaker 1>have to be in tuned with them because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I've already got enough to where God has made

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<v Speaker 1>it to where I can handle all the bullshit things

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<v Speaker 1>that can fuck up my blurb, and he put people

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<v Speaker 1>around me enough, like people like you or Dolly or

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<v Speaker 1>people like that to balance it out, to keep me safe.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you have a medicine that you are meant

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<v Speaker 2>to give the masses. So like for you especially, that's important.

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<v Speaker 2>It's why God built within your purpose the ability to entertain,

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<v Speaker 2>to bring joy, to bring truth to like have you

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<v Speaker 2>know the type of stage presence that you have and

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<v Speaker 2>the creativity you have, like you're meant to display those

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<v Speaker 2>things as the way that you give your wisdom and

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<v Speaker 2>your medicine.

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<v Speaker 1>He was one of the people when I got in

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<v Speaker 1>my accident that I had got messed up. I was

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<v Speaker 1>messed up one night. I didn't take no medicine. I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to be tough and not take no medicine

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. And then and then I called you.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't called you one day, you missed the call.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you called me back right at the right time

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<v Speaker 1>and set there and breathed me through the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have made it do that night without you

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<v Speaker 1>doing the breathing. What is the breathing patterns? You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So I want to thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>doing that for me because I couldn't have made it

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<v Speaker 1>through that night. And what is that you was doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I don't know. I was just following your league.

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<v Speaker 1>What what what do you call that? What you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well, first, like I'm just so grateful for your life,

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<v Speaker 2>like praise God, thank you God, Thank you God, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you God, thank you God. Like you have done just

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<v Speaker 2>such a powerful job of wearing your testimony the way

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<v Speaker 2>that you have. But like what you went through was

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<v Speaker 2>so hard and so challenging. So like one just like

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<v Speaker 2>bless yeah, bless, bless.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm blessed. But it made me see there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that cake that couldn't do this, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying that that's one thing about being in

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<v Speaker 1>that wheelchair. You start looking at the world is not

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<v Speaker 1>built for people that's handicapped, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I couldn't imagine, like I knew I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be able to eventually get back up. But it made

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<v Speaker 1>me even though I always had a had a saft

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<v Speaker 1>spot for people that was handicapp because I always show

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<v Speaker 1>love to them on social media. I even had a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of the most stage with me when I did

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<v Speaker 1>host the Hip Hop Awards. I do all always show

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<v Speaker 1>love to that. But when you sit in that chair,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a totally different game, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>because you see how and it really the world don't

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<v Speaker 1>make time for them to care about the person that's handicapped,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So for me, it made

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<v Speaker 1>me even when I see people now handyicap, it just

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<v Speaker 1>makes me even see how strong they are because you

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<v Speaker 1>got to be mentally strong. Yeah, even that a couple

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<v Speaker 1>months I was in that wheelchair. You have to be

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<v Speaker 1>mentally strong every day, like damn, I got it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really in this gap damn wheelchair because I couldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>use my arms or nothing. You know, So it just

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<v Speaker 1>makes you realize how. But it made me too. I

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<v Speaker 1>was I was strong, but fain. Like I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>have people around me like y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know. I remember, like I remember that

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<v Speaker 2>day you called me, and it was so wild because

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<v Speaker 2>we're so you know, I'm based in La so we're

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<v Speaker 2>always kind of usually on opposite time zones. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was driving in the car and I remember I looked

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<v Speaker 2>down and it said miss FaceTime from Little Dumal and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, I don't remember what time it was

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<v Speaker 2>for me. I think it was like kind of early

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<v Speaker 2>morning for me. And I looked and just like instantly,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like this at weight. So I literally was

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<v Speaker 2>driving on the freeway when I called you, and I

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<v Speaker 2>drove to the shoulder of I think I was on

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<v Speaker 2>the one O one freeway in LA and I just

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<v Speaker 2>sat at the shoulder at like it was like rush

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<v Speaker 2>hour traffic. All these cars were filled next to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was just like okay, and I pulled over

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<v Speaker 2>and I facetimed you back and you were you were

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<v Speaker 2>on the gurney and you were coming out of surgery

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<v Speaker 2>like you were literally like you were you still had

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<v Speaker 2>I might not have the right terminology for this, but

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<v Speaker 2>you still had your anesthesia on yea, And so you

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<v Speaker 2>were coming out of anesthesia, and I remember you were

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<v Speaker 2>just telling me that you were in pain and I

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<v Speaker 2>and I just, you know, the first thing, I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, Okay, take a deep breath. And so we

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<v Speaker 2>ended up doing some breath work exercise and some distance reiki, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he was reky. I did. Thank the name

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I don't know the terminology is yet. I

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<v Speaker 1>just that's some job there for y'all. Help me with

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<v Speaker 1>that shit. But yeah, and I from people that's dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>Like me, there's no dumb but this is I think

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<v Speaker 2>one of the easiest ways to express it for everyone

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<v Speaker 2>is but I definitely encourage people to spend some time

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<v Speaker 2>on Google or go on my page to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>get a deeper look at it. Uh. But reiki is

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<v Speaker 2>working with our human energy system and our spiritual energy

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<v Speaker 2>to send healing to another person, and so this I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a master level at reiki in a few different lineages,

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<v Speaker 2>So Suey, Holy Fire, and Corona Reiki are systems that

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<v Speaker 2>I work with, and I believe that this energy is

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<v Speaker 2>channeled from source and it can really provide a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of support and comfort to people when they are in pain,

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<v Speaker 2>when they're in crisis. If you spend time looking it up,

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<v Speaker 2>if this resonates, there's a lot deeper you could go

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<v Speaker 2>with this, But I think on a basic level, it's

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<v Speaker 2>important to understand that as human beings, we emit energy,

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<v Speaker 2>point blank period, scientifically proven. We have what is called

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<v Speaker 2>an orc field, which can extend in front of us

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<v Speaker 2>from like six to ten feet, and so you'll notice

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<v Speaker 2>people that you're really magnetized towards they typically like some

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<v Speaker 2>of those big figures like yourself, like Charlemagne, you think

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<v Speaker 2>of like an Oprah. They have this natural energy and

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<v Speaker 2>presence that pulls you to them. So in this field

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<v Speaker 2>of thought, you would know that you hold a big

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<v Speaker 2>energy field, that you have a lot of light within you,

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<v Speaker 2>that you make good choices and integrity that add to

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<v Speaker 2>the beneficial life that you have. And you'll notice sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>when you maybe walk by someone on the street and

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<v Speaker 2>you're just like, oh, they got a bad energy. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't really know why you haven't engaged, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>that that's something that you may not want to get

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<v Speaker 2>close to. It would be seen as maybe they have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot smaller of an energetic field, and they might

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of negative influences or negative behavior themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was that was I think an easy way

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<v Speaker 2>to express what the energy system that I was working

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<v Speaker 2>with was. But you could also look at it as

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<v Speaker 2>kind of in Christian thought like laying hands, sending light,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sending prayer out. And so that's that's what

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<v Speaker 2>we did, And and we did some breathwork sequences to

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of calm your nervous system, bring you back

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<v Speaker 2>into your body, hopefully bring like as soothing relaxed states

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<v Speaker 2>so you could get some sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wish see was they t was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>come out to the Bahamas at my spot. She still

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<v Speaker 1>ain't made there yet. For all y'all that don't know, let.

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<v Speaker 2>Me tell y'all about let me tell y'all about Duvall.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how me and Duvall role.

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<v Speaker 3>We will like text about something and we'll be like, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>let's do it, let's do it, and then we'll disappear

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<v Speaker 3>and then randomly you'll FaceTime me one morning or I'll

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<v Speaker 3>FaceTime you one night, and.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be like, yeah, we need to do this. We

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<v Speaker 2>got okay, so here's what we're gonna do, and then

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<v Speaker 2>life takes over. Happen. You invited me to the Bahamas,

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<v Speaker 2>so we.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we both gym and us so we know understand,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So I know, I know you're gonna come

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<v Speaker 1>eventually whenever, whenever the the the ship of Lines or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like if we both out that we

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<v Speaker 1>can and I gotta do your show too, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But I want you to tell me. I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to me like my show is about therapy

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<v Speaker 1>for when people want to talk. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>If they if they got questions, they can come to up,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you got questions, I'm not off to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like we like we like Bro and sus So

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to come to Bros. I'm way older

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<v Speaker 1>than you, way way old.

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<v Speaker 2>Way old day, such a young little thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a question for you because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I feel really grateful that our relationship has endured over

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<v Speaker 2>this length of time because it's allowed me to get

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<v Speaker 2>to know you in so many different kind of ways.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that, like I just have such an

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<v Speaker 2>appreciation for your wisdom and for the way that you

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<v Speaker 2>share like bigger concepts that people could really benefit from

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<v Speaker 2>hearing and knowing about. And I guess, like my question

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<v Speaker 2>for you because something like you have been out in

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<v Speaker 2>the world for a really long time, like you have

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<v Speaker 2>been talking the way that you talk, doing the things

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<v Speaker 2>that you do, you know, before social media, through social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that you mentioned that, like, well, age has hit,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're older, you're unc What have you noticed about

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<v Speaker 2>the way people receive your wisdom? Because you've always been wise.

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<v Speaker 2>What has changed in the way that you're able to

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<v Speaker 2>give wisdom and the way people around you were able

0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:19.800
<v Speaker 2>to receive it from you? Because it's not like you're

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<v Speaker 2>saying new things now, but you got a little song pepper.

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<v Speaker 2>You look elegant, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Just programmed to hear from older people. I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>program because like people always say like yeah, you say

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<v Speaker 1>it because you're just like no, you you couldn't think

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<v Speaker 1>like this unless you was already thinking like this. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like this don't happen like when

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<v Speaker 1>you get old, you just get wet. Wise, you program

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<v Speaker 1>yourself like this, Like everything I am not, I made

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<v Speaker 1>a conscious effort to program myself to be like this

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<v Speaker 1>if it's something that I feel like, like say face

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<v Speaker 1>is on Twitter. I didn't realize how much I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't fail until I got on Twitter. So it

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<v Speaker 1>took me time to see that and program myself like

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<v Speaker 1>fix it. Like when somebody says, boy, you spelt that

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<v Speaker 1>she's wrong as fuck, I have to reprogram myself to

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<v Speaker 1>fix it. So over time I had to. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to fix it. So everything in life I just over time.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to program myself to be the person I

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<v Speaker 1>am like I'm not. I just I'm just simple too,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. I keep saying simple and

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<v Speaker 1>being simple got me this far. I've never I've been

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<v Speaker 1>blessed my whole life. A lot of it ain't me

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<v Speaker 1>because I ain't the smartest motherfucker on earth. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just simple and I'm blessed and I'm on the

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<v Speaker 1>good side of the universe. I ain't. I ain't. It

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<v Speaker 1>ain't me. It ain't me, you know. I just know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm the vessel, and I know that he

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<v Speaker 1>used me, like I said, even when I when I

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<v Speaker 1>like when I was staying with early times of Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw it, I was like, Yo, this is

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<v Speaker 1>crazy power that and it was scary, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>just like it was what it was, but I understood

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<v Speaker 1>what it was not. I feel like to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm proud of how I used it because I used

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<v Speaker 1>it more for other people than I did for me,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they see it or not. But I got way

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<v Speaker 1>less out of it than they and everybody else. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I put out for everybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>I have another question, how do you talk to God?

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Sh I just talked to him through I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>him through my actions on how I treat people. I

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 1>feel like if your actions telling you your relationship with God,

0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that's a good tweet. You know, but and that's how.

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Let me tweet that first, let me get some.

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 1>You can use it. But I feel like and that's

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:56.359
<v Speaker 1>and that's my and that's how I feel like I

0:24:57.240 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I communicate with God to how I treat people or

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<v Speaker 1>HW try to treat people, you know, And that's how

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel like everybody should should show how they treat

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<v Speaker 1>That is so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I so agree. That is so how I.

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 1>You make you make you feel like, give me that

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>is so beautiful. Like I'm really not trying to be

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:24.400
<v Speaker 1>like that for really just but.

0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to try. Let me just receive you,

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.359
<v Speaker 2>you know what I you know what I really want

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 2>for black men, for all men.

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:34.399
<v Speaker 1>What's that?

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:39.840
<v Speaker 2>It's just the ability to let in things that are

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<v Speaker 2>true about you, you know, to not deflect from receiving

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 2>like a softer or a more grateful attention. Like I

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 2>feel like a lot of men don't know what to

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:54.440
<v Speaker 2>always do with that energy. A lot of people in general.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm definitely like that. I'm I'm to to

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<v Speaker 1>hearing bullshit about me, and when I hear rear shit

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:06.359
<v Speaker 1>and it just sounds crazy to me, Like it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what like if somebody give me a compliment, I'd be

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how to respond to it. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, thank you. You know, I don't know

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 1>how to I probably don't know how to receive compliments.

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, what I think a lot of people don't

0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 2>realize is like when you cut off receiving something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>like you cut it off for both parties, because the

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:33.359
<v Speaker 2>person trying to share it with you, you're giving them like

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<v Speaker 2>such a dismissal or like even a rejection of them

0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 2>trying to speak truth into you about what they see

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 2>and feel. And then on your end, you don't let

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 2>in the good stuff about yourself. And I think all

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 2>of us should really benefit from being in practice of

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.199
<v Speaker 2>like looking at each other and telling each other the

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 2>truth about each other, and like letting ourselves receive it,

0:26:55.960 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 2>like letting ourselves receive good news and good words and kindness.

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<v Speaker 1>I do, and and unestly that accident risk is it

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 1>showed because I didn't. I think I do it as

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 1>a way, as a defense mechanism and not rely on it,

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>like because I know you can't rely on love like that,

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>not for humans. So so in my mind, I've always

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>programmed myself to where I know there's love there, but

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:26.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't rely on it, And this accident reminded me

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>that I really get love about it, you know what

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Like I never I never relied on it

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>because especially entertainment, because they're not gonna love you forever

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 1>you live by the genie, you're gonna die about the moves.

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 1>So I've always prepared myself, like even living on the

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 1>island and shit like that. It makes it to where

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>when when all this shit that I am, I'm still

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 1>cool without it, you know what I'm saying. But like

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I say, the accident showed me, like now people really

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>love you, you know what I'm saying, Like like I

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>always knew I have my fans loving me and stuff

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>like that. They're my mom or my family. But when

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:07.120
<v Speaker 1>you see like the industry love you like that, y'all

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 1>gave a fuck about me, you know what I'm saying.

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 1>So it's stuff like that be reassurance. Maybe that was

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>God showing me like not even up with the still

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>fuck with you like that, you know. So I don't

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 1>rely on the love like that. I rely on Look,

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I get all love that's supposed to

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 1>get you know, what I'm saying.

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have to be about relying on it, right

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>because you're solid, like you're a sovereign being, you don't

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 2>need validation. But it's like when you live a good life,

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 2>you do deserve to hear about it, you know. It's

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 2>like we do. You put up with a lot being alive,

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 2>and especially if you're alive and you're.

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like we do though. Yeah, I feel

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>like I feel like life is so simple, like.

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Life is hard, life is harrd.

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, I see it. It's hard for people that can

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>that that's that's like physically fucked up. It's hard for them.

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>But for me, I don't feel like shit hard for me,

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like it ain't it ain't been.

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't really complain for real for everything that, That's

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So it's like I can't really life

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 1>is hard like I've seen, like I say, people that's

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>really fucked up handicap, can't move and can't like and

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>even them, they don't feel like it's hard, you see

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying.

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 2>So some inside, you know, like.

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes life is hard because we put we put a

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of things that we want, you

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, and then and then we get

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>let down a lot. But it's really it's really expectations.

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>But it's really simple as fuck. If you look at

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>any other living creature, it's not trucking.

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 2>We are, yeah, I mean, yeah, it's the it's the

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 2>divine dance of humanity. I feel like it's always like

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 2>a comedy and a tragedy because people go through real.

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Shit all comedy. It's all comedy. Damn all this shit.

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>If you ain't laughing at like, you missing the whole point,

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:22.239
<v Speaker 1>because this shit is hilarious, you know. And that's how

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I look at everything. I mean, we all go through

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>share and we as human as we emotional, you know what,

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be naturally emotional, and and we're gonna cry,

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna do all that. But at the end of

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 1>the day, it is what it is. You know, people

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna come, they gonna go. That's why we don't take

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>nobody we love for granted, because you never know, you know, shit,

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I learned that a lot this year because people dropping

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>like flies around me, you know. But it's life, you know,

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 1>everything I'm going through, it ain't nothing ain't nobody else

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna go through We all gonna go through this. I'm

0:30:57.640 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna see you going, You're gonna see me go, you

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 1>know or it is what it is. But until then

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>we don't live. We gonna live. Joy's motherfucker.

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I got one more question.

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>What's that?

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 2>What did you learn about love this year? And outside

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 2>of the love that you were receiving? Like, what what

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:24.959
<v Speaker 2>changed in the way that you give love and receive

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 2>love this year?

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Honestly nothing because I already had it. Like I said, it,

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 1>don't it, don't flip in as it was programmed in me.

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Sound like on social media, I saw you like saying

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 2>some really beautiful things about your lady and just like

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 2>being I don't know, it seemed like you.

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've always did that. I've always showed love,

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's just maybe the algorithm that they let you

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>catch the other ones. But I mean, I feel like

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I always show love. Is just sometimes you don't catch it.

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>On social media is hard to catch you. But my

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>life shows that I show because even with women in

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>my real life, shit, they all love me, don't. I

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know too many women that don't like me, you

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:16.959
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying so shit like I mean, all

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>of you ain't gonna get to mean to say nothing

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 1>bad about me. And the only reason I use women

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>because they can pretty much tell real you know what

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Niggas a lot, but women there is like nah, niggas,

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you can't, especially Black women. Black women ain't with the bullshit,

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like I can't and you

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>can't be in the game this long and and not

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>something not come out, you know what I'm saying, or something. Yeah, yeah, So,

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I don't really trip off the people

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>that don't know miss the people that do know me.

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>So if the people that do know me, if they

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 1>if they don't see nothing bad about me, I ain't

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, everything else anything. Let me think, is there

0:32:57.800 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>anything else we could talk about? Because I feel like

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I feel like everything we do is

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>just energy, you know what I'm saying, Like we I

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 1>wish we was like together and we vibe and like,

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 1>oh my eyes, we.

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Need it, like just we gotta be on your island.

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 2>We need just the most abundant, blunt and like the

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 2>waves and then just have like a conversation as we

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 2>flow with nature.

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 1>That's how it's supposed to go.

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 2>We should do.

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Anyway give me the ways too much to me.

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 2>We should do a smoker's podcast about spirituality. That would

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 2>be so fun.

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I would. I'm with it. But like I said, even

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>with spirituality, it's spiritual. It's not so much conversation. It's

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 1>just spiritual. But in the world of podcasts, I guess

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>you gotta compensate.

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 2>And that funny that you talk for a living. In

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 2>a large respect, I talked for a living, But I

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 2>love silence and I want to.

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Make because you understand, that's really what it is like.

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 1>We all the spiritual means, we all just organically. Just

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>if you took our mouths off, we'll still be connected,

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Where with the mouth you

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 1>could talk all day and never be connected. Oh that

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 1>was hard. That was hard. That was deep.

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:37.800
<v Speaker 2>That was that was that was some scripture. That was deep.

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:38.959
<v Speaker 3>That was hard.

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 2>I went to this little part of Italy called Colia

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago, and it was super for

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 2>the places I've been in, but it's spelled p U

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 2>g l I, a beautiful exquisite. It's right on the

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 2>like Ionian Sea, the Adriatic see beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, but

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:06.799
<v Speaker 2>like remote, Like it was so like I thought I

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 2>was in the twelfth century and I was just like

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:14.839
<v Speaker 2>it was crazy. But while I was there, it was

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 2>a kind of silence I hadn't heard before. I don't

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 2>know if that's gonna make sense, but it's like, no,

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:26.839
<v Speaker 2>it was so rich, Like the silence felt like it

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 2>had nutrients in it, Like it was just such a

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 2>rich silence. I'm just like, I can't stop creaving that.

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's like at nighttime in my backyard, like

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.800
<v Speaker 1>it's pitch black. It feels like you're really out of

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>space because the only thing you can see is stars

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>and everything. It just opens your mind up and just

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:50.840
<v Speaker 1>realize how detest we are from nature, you know what

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like we really fucking detect away from nature

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 1>like that, even through the healing process, I was crowned

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 1>in like a motherfucker. That shit works too, Like all

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 1>these sit like grounded just taking walking in the grass

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 1>and healing in the ocean like I did physical pimpy

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 1>in the goddamn ocean. All that shit matters.

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Wow, wow, Wow.

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:19.280
<v Speaker 1>All that shit matters.

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 4>It matters so much it's like and it's just wild

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:29.359
<v Speaker 4>because not that we need it, but it's like there

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 4>is scientific proof well, things like shealing gardens, and just

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.280
<v Speaker 4>how important it is if you're healing emotionally or physically,

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 4>to see green plants, to see colorful living things.

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:45.959
<v Speaker 2>You know, if we need it, we need it, We're

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 2>wired for it.

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:49.399
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how long I'm gonna live.

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 2>What do you think?

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because like I feel like I'm gonna

0:36:55.560 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>be here forever, but I know that ain't reality. I

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:03.319
<v Speaker 1>really do feel like it's just like I won't even

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 1>see me dying, even like when I was laying there,

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:07.839
<v Speaker 1>like I didn't realize I was dying till they told

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 1>me a thing. But i't think I was gonna die.

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>But that shit hurt, but it didn't feel like I

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>was gonna die. But it's just like I know, like

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 1>it's just like I was supposed to be here a little.

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>That's how I know I'm gonna be an old motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 1>But this shit coming back, motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be an elder. I want to be

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<v Speaker 2>like a glorious elder. I want to have like my

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<v Speaker 2>white hair just dripping. I want to like God I

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<v Speaker 2>want to sit around a fire and talk to the

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<v Speaker 2>kids and like, I just want to see how so

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<v Speaker 2>much of this is going to turn out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I tell the people there all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to see how this shit go just

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to see how humans just developing and

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<v Speaker 1>evolve into whatever they do, because any little thinking shift

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<v Speaker 1>shit Turst left and I just just think about how

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty just shifted everything so quick, and I knew

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<v Speaker 1>it was gonna do it, but it's just entertaining just

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<v Speaker 1>to see how people just shift. I can't wait. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't fucking wait. Well, I appreciate you Dave coming on us, Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like I say, we just only are talking

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<v Speaker 1>and vibe. And I want my podcast just to be

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<v Speaker 1>like just talk conversation, simple conversation, and hopefully it gets

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<v Speaker 1>something out of it because podcast has been been getting

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<v Speaker 1>a bad stigma, so I think it's time to bring

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<v Speaker 1>it back to what it's supposed to be about.

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<v Speaker 2>Mmm. I love you, I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you too. Da Well, I appreciate you y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank y'all for listening to uh tune in for the

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<v Speaker 1>next episode. We got this bitch. Thanks you listen to

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<v Speaker 1>another episode of Conversation with Me, Little Duval, we out

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<v Speaker 1>production of the Black Effect Podcast Network and our executive

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<v Speaker 1>Howard