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Speaker 1: I'm the Duval and this is Conversations with the Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Today's guest is a master well being, educator, a healer,

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Speaker 1: a storyteller, author and host a deeply well podcast. Let's

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Speaker 1: welcome my good friend Debbie Brown live on with you. Boy,

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Speaker 1: oh little thall, I want to introduce a special guests.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not like Envy just say special guests, just

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Speaker 1: to say it, I said, because this woman is really

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Speaker 1: special to me, my friend, you know, my I guess

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Speaker 1: what else can I call you? My? Uh? What? What's what?

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Speaker 1: What is your title now as far as in the

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Speaker 1: realm of the earth, what is your type the earth? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how to use those things?

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Speaker 1: What is your type of that? I don't know what

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Speaker 1: you call you?

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Speaker 2: Well, my Instagram bio and my website bio says master

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Speaker 2: while being educator and multidisciplinary healer.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's what she is to me. God damn it,

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Speaker 1: that's what she is to me. And I'm not just

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Speaker 1: saying that because she read is to me because she

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Speaker 1: helped me at a time where I was fucked up,

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Speaker 1: you know I was. I'm gonna let her introduce herself

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Speaker 1: a little more because she could tell you more about

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Speaker 1: who she is more than I am. Let me introduce

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Speaker 1: Dave Brown, Debbie Brown.

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Speaker 2: Hello, what's up? You look so good? How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm chilling man, you see you know, you know I am.

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Speaker 1: I'm blessed. You know, I'm blessed as a mother for

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming over here. It's it's crazy that

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Speaker 1: I met you on my show, on my show, because

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Speaker 1: I really can trying to get on your show because

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Speaker 1: I want you to interview me. You know, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like I could interview you like that

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Speaker 1: because shiit, I need you more than you need me,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But first to tell them

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Speaker 1: who you are with and what you've been doing in

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Speaker 1: the game and how you evolved into who you are now.

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Speaker 2: Oh or we ain't got that much time. Well, we

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Speaker 2: originally meant like back back, back, back, back in the day,

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Speaker 2: and I'll never forget the moment I met you, like

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Speaker 2: I will never ever ever forget it. Twitter had just

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Speaker 2: started and at the time, I was working in broadcasting,

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Speaker 2: so I used to work in hip hop and entertainment

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Speaker 2: and radio, TV, all that kind of stuff, And I

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Speaker 2: was doing that in La at the time, and I remember,

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Speaker 2: like Charlemagne would come up to LA from time to time,

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Speaker 2: both of our brother and you came up to the

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Speaker 2: radio station with him, and we were all going to

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Speaker 2: go to a party together or something. And I remember

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Speaker 2: I had I mean, I had seen you on TV

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Speaker 2: and I heard so many things about you, and you

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Speaker 2: came up there and you were just like Twitter had

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Speaker 2: just started. And I remember you sat at my desk

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Speaker 2: and you were like, watch this, and you opened up

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Speaker 2: your Twitter and literally like every millisecond it kept refreshing

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Speaker 2: and it was like thousands and thousands and thousands before

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Speaker 2: tweeting you, I was like, what the hell is going on?

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Speaker 2: What is this? I'll never forget what I think I

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Speaker 2: had just got on. But it like you at the

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Speaker 2: beginning Twitter, like it was like big if you had

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Speaker 2: one hundred followers, like that was.

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Speaker 1: So early that was there at that time. Yeah, Like

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget. One time I was in DC and

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Speaker 1: I was at this party with J Cole's. It was Wallet,

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Speaker 1: it was a couple other people that I don't remember everybody,

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Speaker 1: but we was all there and this when Twitter was big,

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Speaker 1: and this when I realized so much power. I just

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Speaker 1: tweeted one thing as soon as I pressed seeing everybody

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Speaker 1: in the club looked down at their phone, and that's

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Speaker 1: when I was like, Yo, this is way too much power.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was a louder and

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Speaker 1: that's when I realized. I was like, oh, this is

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Speaker 1: the world now, this was almost this had to be

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Speaker 1: almost fourteen fourteen years ago, you know it, say it again.

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Speaker 2: I think it was like two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 1: Damn, that's a long time. And so I would know

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Speaker 1: you for almost almost we almost ever dubbed that.

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Speaker 2: I know, but I'm so much younger than you, but

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Speaker 2: we are like we have known each other a long time.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I like being old, though I enjoined being old

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Speaker 1: because I've always seen myself as the old person, you know,

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Speaker 1: Like I just didn't think getting being old was going

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Speaker 1: to become this quick, like this shit wow.

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Speaker 2: Yo, like so fast. And I feel like the pandemic

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Speaker 2: sped it up because I feel I feel.

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Speaker 1: Like the world lookers. I feel like everything that happened

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Speaker 1: in the pandemic, I already seen it coming. But it's

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Speaker 1: just like it's sped up the rest of work because

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Speaker 1: nothing changed. And just let let us know that we

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Speaker 1: already had a lot of this technology sitting there because

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Speaker 1: all this didn't been here. The stuff we using right now,

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Speaker 1: this shit been here. It's just we didn't think about

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Speaker 1: using it till we had no choice, and now we

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Speaker 1: can't get off this ship.

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Speaker 2: Yo. It's honestly like, I feel like there needs to

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Speaker 2: be a class action lost to it at some point,

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Speaker 2: because it's like we didn't know what it was doing

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Speaker 2: to our brains when we all signed up, right like

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Speaker 2: now you knew, like you knew your neural pathways were

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Speaker 2: about to get, you know, harder.

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Speaker 1: I kind of understood, like I said, when I did that,

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Speaker 1: like little stuff like that, when I tweeted in the

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Speaker 1: club and saw everybody, I understood the power feel understood.

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Speaker 1: Like if it's in the wrong hands, like it can

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Speaker 1: really be finessing the wrong ways on people. Because it's

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Speaker 1: like reading. When you read something, you reading it in

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Speaker 1: your brain, so you in your mind you're thinking you

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Speaker 1: really know what you're talking about. And that's the same

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Speaker 1: thing with social media. So if you read something, you

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Speaker 1: really thinking that you learning, but you're really learning maybe

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Speaker 1: learning wrong, you know, So so that's the algorithm.

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Speaker 2: Will feed anything that's really inside of you. It's like

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Speaker 2: there's this old, this really beautiful old quote and wisdom traditions,

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Speaker 2: which is like, you know, you, you are the beast

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Speaker 2: you choose to feed. You know, are you gonna feed

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Speaker 2: your ego or are you gonna feed your soul? And

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's how the algorithm on social works

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Speaker 2: like it will just further amplify kind of the truth

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Speaker 2: of the current version of who you are, like what

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Speaker 2: you what you're really thinking about the way you see

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Speaker 2: the world in yourself, and so you keep having it.

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Speaker 1: That's why you have propercy. You have to jump in

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Speaker 1: front of the programming, because because if you don't program it,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna it's gonna program you. And so what I

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Speaker 1: kind of do the little exercises I always did. I

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Speaker 1: try to I try to follow a ship that I

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Speaker 1: don't know shit about. You know what I'm saying. I did, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't like certain ship, not because I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's pleased, because I know if I like that, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna bring all that shit over here, you see what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I kind of look the dead when

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Speaker 1: you understand what you're playing, when you kind of even

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Speaker 1: though it's still gonna get your regardless, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, because sometimes you ever notice, sometimes you can,

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Speaker 1: you know, you could think of some shit. Don't even

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Speaker 1: say that shit pop up? It's powerful. So but you're

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Speaker 1: the person to know how to detach way from it too, though,

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Speaker 1: because you understand how to get away from it. So

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Speaker 1: what are some of the exercise do you do to

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Speaker 1: detach yourself from that type of shit? Man?

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Speaker 2: You know what, I really started looking at it very seriously,

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Speaker 2: especially when I became a mom, because you start to

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Speaker 2: notice the mindless things that your body naturally does, and

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Speaker 2: then your child kind of really observing that, like what

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Speaker 2: is that? What are you doing? Or fighting for your attention?

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Speaker 2: And you're like, you know, I think for me, I

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Speaker 2: was just like, oh, my child doesn't need to fight

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Speaker 2: for my attention. This isn't more important. But why do

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Speaker 2: I feel such a connection or why is it the

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Speaker 2: absent minded thing that I pick up? So I did

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Speaker 2: a few things from my social media, Like a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago, I went on a big friend perge.

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Speaker 2: I think I had to give very realistic about how

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Speaker 2: much time I actually had, Like first and foremost, I

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Speaker 2: he and I both deserve that, and that requires you

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Speaker 2: to prioritize your life differently down like in the in

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Speaker 2: the depths of the nuance of it, you know, and

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Speaker 2: I think too, It's like I just feel so connected

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Speaker 2: that I don't I don't want to have other people's

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Speaker 2: thoughts or ideas on my brain. Like I'm curious about

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Speaker 2: the shit I'm curious about, and I have the brain

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Speaker 2: and the ability and the heart to manifest any and

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Speaker 2: all of it. So I don't want to be influenced

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Speaker 2: or too consumed with like truly the smallest details of

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Speaker 2: people's lives, like if I met you ten years ago

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Speaker 2: and we haven't talked or lived in the same state,

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Speaker 2: I don't need to know what you're reading. I don't

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Speaker 2: need to know what you're eating, like God bless absolutely

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Speaker 2: no beef fond from Afar. But like, our brains can

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Speaker 2: only hold so much, and I'm here with work to do,

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Speaker 2: and I have a lot of love to give and

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Speaker 2: be clear about what feeds me and what leaps my energy.

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Speaker 2: So I did like a big friend fast, I kind

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Speaker 2: of you know, I just looked out my life from

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Speaker 2: like acquaintances to casual relationships to deep relationships, to relationships

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Speaker 2: that are just rooted in nostalgia, and I thought, like,

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Speaker 2: what are the ones that are really meaningful for me

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Speaker 2: give less more of me than spread myself on a

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Speaker 2: surface level for everybody. So I did like a mass

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Speaker 2: unfollow and then I just over two years slowly started

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Speaker 2: that you know, I want to be more actively engaged

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Speaker 2: there looking at stories and all that stuff and liking

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Speaker 2: then I go check on people from time to time.

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Speaker 2: And then I actually have a lock box at my house.

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Speaker 2: It's this pretty cool like mindfulness tool that someone sent me,

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Speaker 2: and it's a box that has a timer on it.

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Speaker 2: It's called like mindful box. I think. I hope I'm

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Speaker 2: getting that right because I really do like it. And

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Speaker 2: it down around four and then I want to give

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Speaker 2: in the box. I'll set the alarm for three four hours,

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Speaker 2: and then that keeps my hands off it. So that's

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Speaker 2: what I'm working with right now, and it's made it better.

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Speaker 1: You know what I've worked on. I think I found

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Speaker 1: piece where I think you really at piece where you

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Speaker 1: can be in the world around these crazy motherfuckers and

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Speaker 1: try and try to make a difference. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like because to me, I can cut off

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, but I don't really I don't

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Speaker 1: it would it would defeat my purpose on what I

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Speaker 1: think I should be here for. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Like I really don't need social media, but I think

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Speaker 1: the world needs me for social media. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like the balance of it. So it's

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Speaker 2: point blank period, scientifically proven. We have what is called

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish see was they t was supposed to

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Speaker 2: Me tell y'all about let me tell y'all about Duvall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we both gym and us so we know understand,

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Speaker 1: But I want you to tell me. I want you

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Speaker 1: If they if they got questions, they can come to up,

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Speaker 1: So if you got questions, I'm not off to you.

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Speaker 2: And I think that, like I just have such an

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Speaker 2: Now that you mentioned that, like, well, age has hit,

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Speaker 2: like you're older, you're unc What have you noticed about

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Speaker 2: What has changed in the way that you're able to

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Speaker 1: Just programmed to hear from older people. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: fix it. Like when somebody says, boy, you spelt that

433
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: she's wrong as fuck, I have to reprogram myself to

434
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: fix it. So over time I had to. I had

435
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: to fix it. So everything in life I just over time.

436
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: I had to program myself to be the person I

437
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: am like I'm not. I just I'm just simple too,

438
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I keep saying simple and

439
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: being simple got me this far. I've never I've been

440
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: blessed my whole life. A lot of it ain't me

441
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 1: because I ain't the smartest motherfucker on earth. I'm just

442
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm just simple and I'm blessed and I'm on the

443
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: good side of the universe. I ain't. I ain't. It

444
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: ain't me. It ain't me, you know. I just know.

445
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: I know I'm the vessel, and I know that he

446
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: used me, like I said, even when I when I

447
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: like when I was staying with early times of Twitter,

448
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: when I saw it, I was like, Yo, this is

449
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: crazy power that and it was scary, but it was

450
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: just like it was what it was, but I understood

451
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: what it was not. I feel like to this day,

452
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm proud of how I used it because I used

453
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: it more for other people than I did for me,

454
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: whether they see it or not. But I got way

455
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: less out of it than they and everybody else. I

456
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: feel like I put out for everybody else.

457
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: I have another question, how do you talk to God?

458
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: Sh I just talked to him through I talked to

459
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: him through my actions on how I treat people. I

460
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: feel like if your actions telling you your relationship with God,

461
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: that's a good tweet. You know, but and that's how.

462
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 2: Let me tweet that first, let me get some.

463
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: You can use it. But I feel like and that's

464
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: and that's my and that's how I feel like I

465
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: I communicate with God to how I treat people or

466
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: HW try to treat people, you know, And that's how

467
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody should should show how they treat

468
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: That is so beautiful.

469
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I so agree. That is so how I.

470
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: You make you make you feel like, give me that

471
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: is so beautiful. Like I'm really not trying to be

472
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: like that for really just but.

473
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: You don't have to try. Let me just receive you,

474
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 2: you know what I you know what I really want

475
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: for black men, for all men.

476
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: What's that?

477
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: It's just the ability to let in things that are

478
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: true about you, you know, to not deflect from receiving

479
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: like a softer or a more grateful attention. Like I

480
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: feel like a lot of men don't know what to

481
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 2: always do with that energy. A lot of people in general.

482
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: I think I'm definitely like that. I'm I'm to to

483
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 1: hearing bullshit about me, and when I hear rear shit

484
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: and it just sounds crazy to me, Like it's like,

485
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: what like if somebody give me a compliment, I'd be

486
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to respond to it. I'd

487
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 1: be like, oh, thank you. You know, I don't know

488
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: how to I probably don't know how to receive compliments.

489
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: You know, what I think a lot of people don't

490
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: realize is like when you cut off receiving something like that,

491
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 2: like you cut it off for both parties, because the

492
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 2: person trying to share it with you, you're giving them like

493
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 2: such a dismissal or like even a rejection of them

494
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 2: trying to speak truth into you about what they see

495
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: and feel. And then on your end, you don't let

496
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: in the good stuff about yourself. And I think all

497
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: of us should really benefit from being in practice of

498
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 2: like looking at each other and telling each other the

499
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: truth about each other, and like letting ourselves receive it,

500
00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: like letting ourselves receive good news and good words and kindness.

501
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: I do, and and unestly that accident risk is it

502
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: showed because I didn't. I think I do it as

503
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: a way, as a defense mechanism and not rely on it,

504
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: like because I know you can't rely on love like that,

505
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: not for humans. So so in my mind, I've always

506
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: programmed myself to where I know there's love there, but

507
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: I don't rely on it, And this accident reminded me

508
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: that I really get love about it, you know what

509
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like I never I never relied on it

510
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: because especially entertainment, because they're not gonna love you forever

511
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: you live by the genie, you're gonna die about the moves.

512
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: So I've always prepared myself, like even living on the

513
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: island and shit like that. It makes it to where

514
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: when when all this shit that I am, I'm still

515
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: cool without it, you know what I'm saying. But like

516
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: I say, the accident showed me, like now people really

517
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: love you, you know what I'm saying, Like like I

518
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: always knew I have my fans loving me and stuff

519
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: like that. They're my mom or my family. But when

520
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: you see like the industry love you like that, y'all

521
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: gave a fuck about me, you know what I'm saying.

522
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: So it's stuff like that be reassurance. Maybe that was

523
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: God showing me like not even up with the still

524
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: fuck with you like that, you know. So I don't

525
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: rely on the love like that. I rely on Look,

526
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: I feel like I get all love that's supposed to

527
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: get you know, what I'm saying.

528
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be about relying on it, right

529
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: because you're solid, like you're a sovereign being, you don't

530
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 2: need validation. But it's like when you live a good life,

531
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: you do deserve to hear about it, you know. It's

532
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: like we do. You put up with a lot being alive,

533
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: and especially if you're alive and you're.

534
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: I don't feel like we do though. Yeah, I feel

535
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: like I feel like life is so simple, like.

536
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: Life is hard, life is harrd.

537
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: Well, I see it. It's hard for people that can

538
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: that that's that's like physically fucked up. It's hard for them.

539
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: But for me, I don't feel like shit hard for me,

540
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it ain't it ain't been.

541
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: I can't really complain for real for everything that, That's

542
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like I can't really life

543
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: is hard like I've seen, like I say, people that's

544
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: really fucked up handicap, can't move and can't like and

545
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: even them, they don't feel like it's hard, you see

546
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

547
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: So some inside, you know, like.

548
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes life is hard because we put we put a

549
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of things that we want, you

550
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and then and then we get

551
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: let down a lot. But it's really it's really expectations.

552
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: But it's really simple as fuck. If you look at

553
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: any other living creature, it's not trucking.

554
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: We are, yeah, I mean, yeah, it's the it's the

555
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: divine dance of humanity. I feel like it's always like

556
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: a comedy and a tragedy because people go through real.

557
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: Shit all comedy. It's all comedy. Damn all this shit.

558
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: If you ain't laughing at like, you missing the whole point,

559
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,239
Speaker 1: because this shit is hilarious, you know. And that's how

560
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: I look at everything. I mean, we all go through

561
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: share and we as human as we emotional, you know what,

562
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna be naturally emotional, and and we're gonna cry,

563
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna do all that. But at the end of

564
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: the day, it is what it is. You know, people

565
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: gonna come, they gonna go. That's why we don't take

566
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: nobody we love for granted, because you never know, you know, shit,

567
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: I learned that a lot this year because people dropping

568
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: like flies around me, you know. But it's life, you know,

569
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: everything I'm going through, it ain't nothing ain't nobody else

570
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: gonna go through We all gonna go through this. I'm

571
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: gonna see you going, You're gonna see me go, you

572
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: know or it is what it is. But until then

573
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: we don't live. We gonna live. Joy's motherfucker.

574
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: I got one more question.

575
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: What's that?

576
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: What did you learn about love this year? And outside

577
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: of the love that you were receiving? Like, what what

578
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 2: changed in the way that you give love and receive

579
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: love this year?

580
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: Honestly nothing because I already had it. Like I said, it,

581
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: don't it, don't flip in as it was programmed in me.

582
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: Sound like on social media, I saw you like saying

583
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: some really beautiful things about your lady and just like

584
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: being I don't know, it seemed like you.

585
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I've always did that. I've always showed love,

586
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: and it's just maybe the algorithm that they let you

587
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: catch the other ones. But I mean, I feel like

588
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: I always show love. Is just sometimes you don't catch it.

589
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: On social media is hard to catch you. But my

590
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: life shows that I show because even with women in

591
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: my real life, shit, they all love me, don't. I

592
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: don't know too many women that don't like me, you

593
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,959
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying so shit like I mean, all

594
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: of you ain't gonna get to mean to say nothing

595
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: bad about me. And the only reason I use women

596
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: because they can pretty much tell real you know what

597
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Niggas a lot, but women there is like nah, niggas,

598
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: you can't, especially Black women. Black women ain't with the bullshit,

599
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I can't and you

600
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: can't be in the game this long and and not

601
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: something not come out, you know what I'm saying, or something. Yeah, yeah, So,

602
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't really trip off the people

603
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: that don't know miss the people that do know me.

604
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: So if the people that do know me, if they

605
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: if they don't see nothing bad about me, I ain't

606
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, everything else anything. Let me think, is there

607
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: anything else we could talk about? Because I feel like

608
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like everything we do is

609
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: just energy, you know what I'm saying, Like we I

610
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: wish we was like together and we vibe and like,

611
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: oh my eyes, we.

612
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: Need it, like just we gotta be on your island.

613
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: We need just the most abundant, blunt and like the

614
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: waves and then just have like a conversation as we

615
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: flow with nature.

616
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: That's how it's supposed to go.

617
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: We should do.

618
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: Anyway give me the ways too much to me.

619
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: We should do a smoker's podcast about spirituality. That would

620
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: be so fun.

621
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: I would. I'm with it. But like I said, even

622
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: with spirituality, it's spiritual. It's not so much conversation. It's

623
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: just spiritual. But in the world of podcasts, I guess

624
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: you gotta compensate.

625
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: And that funny that you talk for a living. In

626
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: a large respect, I talked for a living, But I

627
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: love silence and I want to.

628
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: Make because you understand, that's really what it is like.

629
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: We all the spiritual means, we all just organically. Just

630
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: if you took our mouths off, we'll still be connected,

631
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Where with the mouth you

632
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: could talk all day and never be connected. Oh that

633
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: was hard. That was hard. That was deep.

634
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 2: That was that was that was some scripture. That was deep.

635
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 3: That was hard.

636
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: I went to this little part of Italy called Colia

637
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, and it was super for

638
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: the places I've been in, but it's spelled p U

639
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: g l I, a beautiful exquisite. It's right on the

640
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: like Ionian Sea, the Adriatic see beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, but

641
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: like remote, Like it was so like I thought I

642
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: was in the twelfth century and I was just like

643
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 2: it was crazy. But while I was there, it was

644
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: a kind of silence I hadn't heard before. I don't

645
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: know if that's gonna make sense, but it's like, no,

646
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: it was so rich, Like the silence felt like it

647
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: had nutrients in it, Like it was just such a

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Speaker 2: rich silence. I'm just like, I can't stop creaving that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's like at nighttime in my backyard, like

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00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: it's pitch black. It feels like you're really out of

651
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: space because the only thing you can see is stars

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00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: and everything. It just opens your mind up and just

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00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: realize how detest we are from nature, you know what

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00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like we really fucking detect away from nature

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00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: like that, even through the healing process, I was crowned

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00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: in like a motherfucker. That shit works too, Like all

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00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: these sit like grounded just taking walking in the grass

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00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: and healing in the ocean like I did physical pimpy

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Speaker 1: in the goddamn ocean. All that shit matters.

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Speaker 2: Wow, wow, Wow.

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00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: All that shit matters.

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Speaker 4: It matters so much it's like and it's just wild

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Speaker 4: because not that we need it, but it's like there

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Speaker 4: is scientific proof well, things like shealing gardens, and just

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00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 4: how important it is if you're healing emotionally or physically,

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Speaker 4: to see green plants, to see colorful living things.

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Speaker 2: You know, if we need it, we need it, We're

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00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: wired for it.

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Speaker 1: I wonder how long I'm gonna live.

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because like I feel like I'm gonna

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00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: be here forever, but I know that ain't reality. I

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00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: really do feel like it's just like I won't even

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Speaker 1: see me dying, even like when I was laying there,

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00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: like I didn't realize I was dying till they told

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00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: me a thing. But i't think I was gonna die.

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Speaker 1: But that shit hurt, but it didn't feel like I

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Speaker 1: was gonna die. But it's just like I know, like

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00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: it's just like I was supposed to be here a little.

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Speaker 1: That's how I know I'm gonna be an old motherfucker.

681
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: But this shit coming back, motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: I want to be an elder. I want to be

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Speaker 2: like a glorious elder. I want to have like my

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00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: white hair just dripping. I want to like God I

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00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: want to sit around a fire and talk to the

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00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: kids and like, I just want to see how so

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Speaker 2: much of this is going to turn out.

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Speaker 1: I think I tell the people there all the time.

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Speaker 1: I just want to see how this shit go just

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00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: I just want to see how humans just developing and

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00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: evolve into whatever they do, because any little thinking shift

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00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: shit Turst left and I just just think about how

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty just shifted everything so quick, and I knew

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00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: it was gonna do it, but it's just entertaining just

695
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: to see how people just shift. I can't wait. I

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Speaker 1: can't fucking wait. Well, I appreciate you Dave coming on us, Joe.

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Speaker 1: You know, like I say, we just only are talking

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Speaker 1: and vibe. And I want my podcast just to be

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Speaker 1: like just talk conversation, simple conversation, and hopefully it gets

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Speaker 1: something out of it because podcast has been been getting

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Speaker 1: a bad stigma, so I think it's time to bring

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Speaker 1: it back to what it's supposed to be about.

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Speaker 2: Mmm. I love you, I love you.

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Speaker 1: I love you too. Da Well, I appreciate you y'all.

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Speaker 1: Thank y'all for listening to uh tune in for the

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Speaker 1: next episode. We got this bitch. Thanks you listen to

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Speaker 1: another episode of Conversation with Me, Little Duval, we out

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Speaker 1: production of the Black Effect Podcast Network and our executive

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Speaker 1: producer is Dolly Bishop and produced by Aaron A Keen

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