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Speaker 2: So last weekend, I'm in Vegas for UFC two three twenty.

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Speaker 2: You have C three twenty, which is crazy that there

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Speaker 2: three twenty. I tried to say two thirty, which tells

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Speaker 2: you how backed up I am. I think I might

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Speaker 2: have fought at UFC two thirty. Alex Perr becomes the.

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Speaker 1: World champion again. That's interesting because he lost to the

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Speaker 1: guy that he fought.

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Speaker 2: Magna Monn Calive in the match in the first encounter

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Speaker 2: and he just dominated him. In the way that he

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Speaker 2: did in the second encounter. But that's not what I

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Speaker 2: want to talk to you about today. I want to

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Speaker 2: talk to you about Alex and his intentions and how

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Speaker 2: he showed them uh.

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Speaker 1: Very quickly after the fight.

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Speaker 2: I also want to touch on briefly Macamnunclive's injury and

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Speaker 2: how that may have affected the fight, but also how

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Speaker 2: the messaging and going into that fight was different right

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Speaker 2: the people that want him to fight, a post of

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Speaker 2: people who didn't want him to fight, and ultimately what

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Speaker 2: made him to fight make the decision to fight. First off,

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Speaker 2: about the injury right away, Maga mont ANKLAIAV did have

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Speaker 1: This is not a lie, This is not an excuse.

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Speaker 2: I know this because prior to the fight, I saw

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Speaker 2: video of him getting injections into his rib to try

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Speaker 2: to help him, try to help him get to the fight.

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Speaker 2: He was able to hit pads and do cardio essentially

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Speaker 2: for a month and a half before the fight. With

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Speaker 2: that being said, I don't know if the result changes

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Speaker 2: if he was healthy because of the way.

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Speaker 1: Pereerra fought him.

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Speaker 2: I know some people that are very close to magamonac

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Speaker 2: Lave that said for him not to fight.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to fight.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to go out there and beat Pereira again

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Speaker 2: because he understood how important it was to have a

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Speaker 2: even a stronger statement as to why he is we

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Speaker 2: his But he was not at one hundred percent. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he was at one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty percent if he would have beaten Pereira on that night.

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Speaker 2: The way Perra attacked him just really was in a

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Speaker 2: the first time, and he absolutely did that. He knocks

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Speaker 2: He also does not have the start ability of a

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Speaker 2: the John Jones fight for Pereira, of all of the

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Speaker 2: it speaks to the type of man that Alex is.

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Speaker 2: Alex called out the hardest fight possible, and I think

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Speaker 2: would be very easy for Alex to go, I want

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Speaker 2: there are still fights from that two o five. When

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Speaker 2: Alex looks at Yuri, who's the guy he's beaten two times,

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Speaker 1: Little difficult for me to get up. Four.

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Speaker 2: When he looks at Carlos Olberg, he looks at a

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Speaker 1: The big fight matters to these dudes.

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Speaker 2: Alex is thirty eight years old and probably thinking at

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Speaker 2: this point, how do I go and make another statement

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Speaker 1: Hell if he went to beat John Jones at heavyweight.

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Speaker 2: Alex Ferreira, who's already considered one of the greatest fighters

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Speaker 2: he would have beaten a former UFC Light heavyweight champion

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Speaker 1: But there are fights. At two oh five. There is

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Speaker 2: I misspoke last week talking to Chris Widman about he

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Speaker 1: To fight for the belt again. So there are fights

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Speaker 1: and Dana White said as much.

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Speaker 2: Dana said, he still has fights, so I don't know

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Speaker 2: But if he does move up, why isn't he chasing

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Speaker 1: To take the chance.

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Speaker 2: Because if I put Alex Pereira against John Jones, Perera's

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Speaker 2: the underdog against Tom Aspinall, Pereyra's the underdog. Cyril gon Praah,

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Speaker 2: Maybe underdog, but does it bring the same type of

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Speaker 1: Type of value to a victory as fighting John Jones.

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Speaker 2: Prera matches up much better also against Tom Aspinall and

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Speaker 1: But I think he's.

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Speaker 2: Showing his hand a little bit and saying I want Jones.

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Speaker 2: When Jones barely came out of retirement. No matter how

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Speaker 2: at two or five, and he may end up fighting there.

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Speaker 2: But I love I love seeing him in that willingness

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Speaker 2: seen this dude do in such a short period of time.

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Speaker 2: Alex Ferero seriously has twelve UFC fights now, nine of

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Speaker 2: them have been for UFC championships. Nine title fights are

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Speaker 2: ready for Alex Pereira. Crazy number. That's a crazy number.

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Speaker 2: He still hasn't even been on the roster for four years.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Brell he started fighting here. He's one

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Speaker 2: of the bravest fighters of all time because to now

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Speaker 2: say I was a one eighty five pounder, I'm the

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Speaker 2: two of five champion.

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Speaker 1: Now I want to fight heavyweight. Just crazy because guests.

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Speaker 2: Who could not make one eighty five ever, John Jones,

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Speaker 2: Tom Aspinall, Cyril Goan, none of these guys could ever

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Speaker 2: brave because could you imagine right now ham'sa fighting at heavyweight, No,

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Speaker 1: He's a gamer, and he showed that time and time again.

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Speaker 2: But I also believe that it shows that Tom Aspinall,

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Speaker 2: if he is to beat Cyril Gan in Abu Dhabi,

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Speaker 1: Impressively because he's still.

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Speaker 2: Missing that cliche, that cash Shay, that cashe that makes

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Speaker 2: same way, in the same way, even if he is

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Speaker 2: victory over championship by calling out John Jones and I'm

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Speaker 2: here for it, man. So yeah, Unclelive's hurt, guys, But

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Speaker 2: Unclelive will be the first person.

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Speaker 1: To tell you it was no excuse. He chose to fight.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to fight.

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Speaker 2: There were a lot of people that care greatly about

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Speaker 2: he's a champion and he.

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Speaker 1: Got beat for it. Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what his roll back to the title

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Speaker 2: let's get some of these fights happening. Who do I

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Speaker 2: We can't run it back with Urye just yet. It

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Speaker 1: Until next time. Guys like subscribe, tell you friends.

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Speaker 2: DC's got a YouTube channel and in the comments, tell

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Speaker 2: me what do you guys think should be next for

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Speaker 2: Alex Pereira. I think the world is his oyster, as

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Speaker 2: it has been since the very beginning of his career

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Speaker 2: here in the UFC.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, peace,