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Speaker 1: Sometimes they fell to the bottom of the stack. Remember

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Speaker 1: when Rushwood he would stack the papers. I always loved that.

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Speaker 1: I always loved that. As I've gotten to know the

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Speaker 1: the history behind him doing that. And oh, there's so

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Speaker 1: many great rustling balls stories. So one of the stories

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Speaker 1: that I didn't get to and I decided we have

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Speaker 1: Gina Carano. So she she she has settled a wrongful

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Speaker 1: termination lawsuit with Disney. She is a pioneer. Is Gina

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Speaker 1: Carano an absolute pioneer? She was the actress in Mandalorian.

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Speaker 1: She was fired for voicing her opinion with regard to BLM,

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Speaker 1: COVID lockdowns and the transgender push. She posted a statement

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Speaker 1: to an agreement with Disney Slash lucasfilm, which I believe

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Speaker 1: is the best outcome for all parties involved. I hope

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Speaker 1: and move on to the next chapter. My desires remain

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Speaker 1: in the arts, which is where I hope you will

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Speaker 1: a person that has to be an activist. She just

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Speaker 1: Now she won, and so well, let me finish the story.

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Speaker 1: The actress and former MMA star was fired from her

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Speaker 1: role as Carad Doune in The Mandalorian. I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: the movie, so forgive me if I'm mispronouncing things. In

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Speaker 1: February of twenty one, after Disney objected to several social

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Speaker 1: media posts that she wrote, she wrote in one of them,

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Speaker 1: point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews,

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Speaker 1: someone for their political views. Disney fired her from the series,

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Speaker 1: That wasn't the real reason they fired her, Disney said

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Speaker 1: reached an agreement with Gina Carano to resolve the issues

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Speaker 1: in her pending lawsuit against the companies. Miss Carano was

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Speaker 1: we look forward to identifying opportunities to work together with

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Speaker 1: miss Carano in the near future. That will not happen,

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Speaker 1: just so you know, do you know that when these

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Speaker 1: the future. No, they really do. These things are part

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Speaker 1: You know, they're different things to different people have changed

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