WEBVTT - Andy Levy & Gov. Ned Lamont 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.120 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.399 today's best minds. And Trump's White House has taken more 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:17.120 than eighty percent of Trump's transcribed remarks off the White 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.720 House website. We have such a great show for you 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:24.119 today as the world journs. Andy Levy stops by to 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:27.280 talk about all the chaos and corruption in Trump world. 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:31.640 Then we'll talk to Connecticut Governor Ned Lamont about how 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:36.280 he's navigating Trump's aggression towards the Blue States. But first 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:37.800 the news, BALI. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:42.120 Many people are saying last night was the most corrupt 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.800 night in our history as a nation. That was because 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.960 Trump posted a one hundred and forty eight million dollar 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:52.920 allegedly fundraised US crypto dinner, and some people are calling 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:55.960 it the orgy of corruption. I don't want to picture 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.240 those people anywhere near that word, but make of it 0:00:58.320 --> 0:00:58.880 what you will. 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:04.240 The of this crypto dinner is someone who is called 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:09.160 Justin Son. Son who saw a twenty twenty three fraud 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:12.560 case brought by the US Securities and Exchange Commission. He 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:16.520 saw that dropped in February in the new Trump administration. Also, 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:21.199 he is one of the biggest buyers of Trump's crypto coin. 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.040 In fact, he won the first place in the dinner 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:28.400 contest with an eighteen point five million dollar US wallet. 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:33.520 So he also advises this sketchy, trumpy bank called World 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:37.280 Liberty Financial, which, by the way, I remember World Liberty 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.320 Financial from going to Seapack. That was one of the 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.560 major sort of funders of Seapack. 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.680 It's really one of those names that rings grift. 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:51.960 Yeah, everyone in this dinner has just paid to try 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.000 to get Trump's influence. We're going to have next week 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.680 and we've had before, but we're gonna have more talk 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.559 about crypto. There are a couple people will cover really well, 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.320 and everyone you talk to in the end, you know, 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.720 they're sort of like, it's it's really just a kind 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:09.240 of grift. It's really just not a real thing. And 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.800 it's also, by the way, a currency that is terrible 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:15.360 for the environment because it has to be mined. So 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:20.280 there are so many different reasons why crypto is a skin. 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.840 But crypto has this bill that is working its way 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.560 through the Senate, which is a you know, a non 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:32.920 regulation of crypto bill, and crypto spends this industry spends 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.200 you know, they're sort of the if anything, they're kind 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.600 of the big oil of this century. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:37.920 Right. 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:43.760 They are spending on senators and congress people, and they 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:48.120 are spending on their advertising for them. They are creating 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.200 super packs. They are doing you know, just what Exxon 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:55.519 or just what camel cigarettes used to do in previous decades. 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:59.080 And it is really they just have a vice grip 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:03.440 already on our elected And it didn't take very long 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:04.680 at all, No. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.240 It sure did not. So in addition to this, then 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.760 after this big old festival of corruption, because I'm not 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.880 using that word again, what we saw as Trump started 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:19.840 re escalating his trade war again. Some people said, maybe 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:23.160 this is because these people didn't come to the dinner 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.400 and bribe them enough. Maybe some people say, you just 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.120 woke up on the wrong side of the bed. What 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.680 are you thinking to hear Bally, he's attacking Europe, He's 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:31.639 attacking Apple. What's your thought here? 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:36.160 So this is like real mad king kind of stuff. Yes, 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.240 you know that was when I thought. So basically he 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.560 got up and look, you know, with Trump, it could 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.440 be he's mad at someone. It could be he's trying 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.720 to distract from something. It could be he wants Tim 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:49.560 Cook I mean, it could be as simple as that 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.320 he just wants Tim Cook to open a factory and 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.600 deluse You know, it doesn't necessarily. One of the things 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:59.120 I think people do wrong about covering Trump is describing 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:01.880 more meaning than is to the things he does. So 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.400 I'm just going to read you a little bit of 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.760 the truth. But the net net of it is the 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.680 truth quote unquote, The net net of it is twenty 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:14.160 five percent tariff on Apple. If the tech trient does 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.760 not shift manufacturing in the US, I don't know how 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.080 they would do that. And by the way, is want 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.560 pull back from it. And remember that there was all 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.159 this reporting that if they were to make Apple iPhones 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.440 in the United States, it says if an iPhone, this 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:33.480 is from grac Who's always right, an iPhone We're made 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.760 entirely in the US. Analyst estimates the cost could be 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:41.599 significantly higher, reaching between thirty five hundred and even thirty 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:46.000 thousand to one hundred thousand, due to factors like higher 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:49.320 labor costs, logistics, and a need to rebuild the supplydget. 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:53.440 So the point is a tariff cannot fix this problem. 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.600 Like so many moments in Trump world, we have this 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:01.360 problem which is you cannot rewrite history that anyway, that 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.680 is the story with that. And then also to tariff 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.279 the EU. Who knows why he's mad at the EU. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.680 But the point is a fifty percent tariff would damage 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.560 the EU, but it would also damage us because we 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:15.560 get a lot of stuff from the EU. And remember 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:19.240 he's still fighting with Canada and Mexico. So we have 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:23.800 this situation where we have this president who is just 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:26.760 out of control and that's where we are. 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.440 Yeah. So another one of the nice features of this 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:35.400 presidency is hiring all the really really qualified people, by 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.000 which I mean really unqualified people. We have some of 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.240 the best evidence of that we've seen so far a 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.680 report from Will Staken that says where they got tape 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:47.040 of the Social Security chief talking about how they learned 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:47.760 about their job. 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:53.359 It's about social security and I'm really I'm really not 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.680 I'm swear I'm not living for God, and I'm like, well, 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.600 what am I going to do? So I'm googling social Security, 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.160 you know, one of my great skills on my great 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:07.600 Googlers on the East Coast. But that is the headline 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:13.760 for the post. Great Google Google are in Chief Chief 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.800 and Google or whatever. Uh So by the way, I 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.160 definitely at work, you know, we're allowed to lap. We're 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:21.960 all out of that fun. We're out to know each 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:28.719 other's families are not to be normal of that. I'm like, okay, 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.800 it's a commissioner Social Security. First, it wouldn't nobody said 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:34.440 we're calling you a bit. It was about some of 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.280 those securities. I'm trying to figure it out. 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.400 Great stuff. He's really good at googling. 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.600 I don't know, you know. And this is the thing 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:44.960 about this administration that will hopefully save us but also 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:48.480 probably end us, is that I really don't know how 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.880 anything works. And a lot of these people got these 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:55.600 jobs because who knows. So not great. 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.680 Speaking of not great, Christy Nome probably tweeted one of 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.680 the upidest things I've ever seen, tweeted a policy. Some 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:04.880 people are saying they long for the days of Sarah 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:09.520 Palin's stupidity after seeing it. She's tweeting and threatening Harvard 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.480 because she wants them to turn over academic records of 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:17.200 who has been taken in for reprimendments around protesting, and 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.840 Harvard is refusing. But luckily Harvard just got temporary relief 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:21.520 from the courts. 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:27.480 Yeah, Christine Nome is the Sarah Pillon of this administration, 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.560 though Sarah Palin number one, because we used to be 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:35.440 less insipid. These people are so over their head. This 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:39.440 morning they banned Harvard from taking we had I think 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.600 it was Christy Nome who said that they revoked Harvard's 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:49.720 whatever charter to allow foreign students to court immediately Harvard 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:53.840 one temporary relief. I do think this kind of stuff 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:58.240 is ultimately I understand that it's for the base, but 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.560 you already have the base right. The play here is 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.880 get the base excited to go after Harvard. But what 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.520 I think is really stupid about this is you've made 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.960 things more expensive for the base. They're getting hurt by taffs, 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:16.080 You're you know, back and forth, you're killing consumer confidence. 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.360 These are the things that if you want to get 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.440 the base excited. But it's like there's so much self 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.800 destruction in this administration, which thank god for that. But 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.080 you know, this is going to play out and they're 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.480 going to fundraise off it, and I think they think 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.240 it's good optics for them. But I do really wonder 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.079 if anyone, I mean it's they think it's good optics 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.959 for them. It's certainly terrible for the rest of us, 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:41.440 and it hurts research, and you know, there's so much research. 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.959 These people are coming to this country to get educated. 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.120 The other thing is that it's like it hurts the world, 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.400 but it also showed, you know, we're not going to 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.600 be the leader in the world. This stuff where they 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.960 harass people and keep them from wanting to come here. 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.679 It's going to hurt all of our institutions. It's going 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.120 to hurt all of our research, and ultimately they're going 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:05.240 to lose because business. Andy Levy is a ghost of 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:09.679 as the world churns. Welcome to fast politics, Andy Levy. 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.720 Th best, Thank you? 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.240 How are you? You're welcome here? 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:15.440 Good? 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:19.600 How heavy is American democracy right now? I mean that, 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.880 you know, I know that these people are super incompetent. 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:27.440 I get it, but it's still so just watching them 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:32.640 just screw over every institution. I have no connection to Harvard. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:37.880 I am not you know, nothing that didn't go there, 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:42.600 didn't visit there, you know, I'm no no degrees from there, 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:46.719 nothing didn't never got in there, and in any way 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:50.560 I never even applied there. And I actually I once 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:54.160 spoke at the Kennedy School. That's it. And let me 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:58.800 tell you those that made me so upset? What is 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.880 wrong with us? Why is it so depressing to watch this? 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.600 I don't know, but I feel you've got a lot 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.240 of psychological baggage about not going to Harvard. After hearing 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:12.160 that long litany of things, it's like, you know, you 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:15.960 could just say, yeah, didn't go to Harvard, but you 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:20.840 know you felt it necessary to uh to enumerate the 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:22.360 various goings on. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:23.200 Uh. 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:27.720 Look, we've known this for a while that everything that 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:30.560 they have been using, you know, to try to claim 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.360 that they're fighting anti Semitism, which is the last thing 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.959 in the world they care about. When they're not promoting it, 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.280 they don't care about it. That's the only two options there. 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.440 But this has always been aimed at, you know, the 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:47.280 quote unquote elite institutions like Harvard, like Columbia. 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:48.760 It's all more of the same. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.200 And if the thing is like, they don't care that 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:56.200 they're losing in court, and I think their attitude seems 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.960 to be we're gonna we're gonna keep doing this and 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:03.040 sometimes the university or the law firm or whatever is 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:04.839 going to roll over and that's a win for us. 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:06.960 And sometimes they're going to fight back, and if we 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:09.480 lose that we're back where we're started. But we've got 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:13.280 these other wins, so it really is kind of win 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.439 win for them because even when they lose, you know, 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.560 all it does is keep the status quo. But when 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.600 they win, it changes everything. 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:25.880 Judge Box of Wine, you're a friend of mine. She 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:32.719 is now the acting head. What the fuck? What the 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:34.640 actual fuck discussion? 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:38.480 Yeah, when New York Gorsearch was nominated to the Supreme Court, 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:40.559 I was good friends with Neil and college and we 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.240 the two of us and a couple other people, started 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.720 an alternative newspaper at Columbia, and so people found this 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:48.280 out about me, and I was at the time, I 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.600 was working at Fox, so people assumed I was a conservative, 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.079 which I wasn't, but I got so I got a 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.319 lot of press calls, and I think it might have 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:58.200 been New York Magazine. I was talking to a reporter 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.960 and he didn't use this line, and it's pissed me 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.360 off to this day because it's now very relevant. And 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.760 I basically said at the end of the interview, I said, look, 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.520 Neil Gorswitch is sort of the best you could hope 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:12.199 for from Trump in the sense that he's at least intelligent. 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.680 And then I said, you know, what did you want instead? 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:20.000 Justice Puro? And here we are. Was it seven eight 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:26.679 years later and we've got acting US Attorney Puro. And 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.920 it's incredible because whatever jokes you make, or however much 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:36.360 you think you are exaggerating or you know, being a hyperbolic. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:40.400 It comes true. It all comes true in the end. 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:45.000 And I think about the fact that I left Fox 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:46.880 and I could have had an. 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:48.600 Amazing career in government, Molly. 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:50.880 I could have been the head of Homeland Security, I 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:54.920 could have been the Secretary of State or Defense, and 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:55.840 I blew it. 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.000 Then that's all I take from this, Molly, is that 0:12:58.080 --> 0:12:58.600 I blew it. 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:03.559 I'm an idiot, yes, And also yes, you probably would 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.840 have been. I don't know. I feel like you wouldn't 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:09.120 have been able to do the kind of sycovancy that 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.920 was needed, right, So I feel like since you would 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.640 be bad at the sycophancy, he would give you like 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:19.680 a job to punish you, like, you know, like you'd 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.400 get something that he thinks of as like not a 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.480 good job, because it's like, yeah, like I think a 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.320 lot about where you know, Linda McMahon and Howard Lutnik 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.440 were in this power struggle over who got to be 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:36.640 Commerce secretary, right, right, And even though because nobody knew 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.240 what any of these jobs were, clearly right they were like, 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.960 commerce secretary sounds better because it deals with money, whereas 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:47.000 Secretary of Education is kids and nobody likes kids. And 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:51.160 then Linda McMahon got Secretary of Education. So the star 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.840 contrast to Trumpell one point zero, where they did actually 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.000 have someone in there who actually knew a tiny bit 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.640 about education, which so it is so I think that 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.360 if you had been able to stay at Pox a 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.240 little longer, you probably would be Secretary of Education. 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.760 Now, I mean all I ever wanted is really to 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.000 be the first Jewish ambassador to the Vatican. 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:13.200 Yeah, I think I could have pulled that off. 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:18.480 Trump's first administration. He put Newt Gingrich his wife, not 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.960 even new the wife, as ambassador to Holy See. 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.200 And I think his twelfth wife, right, that's his twelfth wife. 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.160 He stepped on my joke there, baby. 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.160 Oh, I'm so sorry. 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.640 No, No, I think I think you hit the right 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.000 notes there. And also I don't think I should be 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.840 talking too much. But but yeah, that is a really 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:43.160 great example of how in many ways this administration has 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.760 just gone on from strength to strength. 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:49.880 As we say, yeah, I think some of us at 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:53.680 least thought that the people he named in his second 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:57.440 term would they'd be awful and they'd be evil, but 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.880 they might actually be competent to No, Nope, And it 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:04.520 turns out no, and that they're like just as incompetent 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:06.320 as they were in Trump one point, oh if not 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.040 more so, if not more so. 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.920 Now we're going to talk about one of the things 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.560 that Trump has actually learned how to do really well, 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:17.560 which is he is incredibly good at whipping the vote. 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:23.840 He has become the Nancy Pelosi of the House Republican Caucus. 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:28.640 You know, he is out there with his puppet Mike Johnson, 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:33.520 and he is whipping the vote. He got the big, 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:38.120 beautiful Buxom billionaire. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.280 Bill, blonde blonde. 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:48.160 Billionaire bill, which is going to bankrupt our economy discuss. 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.000 I never thought I would long for the days of 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:51.880 Kevin McCarthy. 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:56.560 Oh yeah, Kevin looks like Lincoln, right, I know. 0:15:56.840 --> 0:16:01.080 He looks like a veritable statesman compared to Mike Johnson. 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.840 And the thing is, at least with Kevin McCarthy, he 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:08.040 had no real core beliefs, so you could push them around, 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.840 whereas Johnson, Yeah, Mike Johnson does have. 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.320 Core beliefs, and they're they're awful. I mean, they are 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:15.600 wor pretty scary. 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:16.400 Yeah. 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.680 Yeah, So he's a true believer and so he's out 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:23.040 there doing this stuff. And I do think it was 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.920 funny though, because I guess there was a meeting he 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.320 had with people on the Senate side, GOP members of 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.880 the Senate, and he told them, don't change this bill. 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:33.840 You know, if you're going to make changes, keep them 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:34.800 very minimal. 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:38.640 And my understanding is I don't know if anyone actually 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:42.720 laughed in his face, but the senators pretty much said, 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.280 you know, I know, John Thune was quoted afterwards that no, 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.000 we're going to put our imprint on this bill. So 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:51.640 it's going to be interesting to see what the Senate 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:55.480 does to this bill and how well Trump can whip them. 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:56.240 I don't know. 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.920 It feels like in the Senate there's a chance for 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.960 maybe some of the awful things to be made less awful, 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.120 but it also feels like there's a chance for things 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:06.919 to be made even worse. I mean, you got people 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:10.560 like Ron Johnson and Mike Lee out there saying oh no, oh, 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.080 we need to put more spending cuts in these in 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.520 this bill. And so, you know, I would like to 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:20.800 think that maybe there are some saner heads in the Senate, 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.520 but then I remember that there are people like Ron 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.680 Johnson and Mike Lee in the Senate, and I just think, 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.479 oh my god, this could be even fucking worse than 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:31.000 it is now. 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.240 I want to talk about this bill because I think 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.480 of it as like the purest distillation of trump Ism, right, 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.159 like a lot of this shit he said on the 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:41.600 campaign trail where people are like, you can't actually do 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:45.600 that is in that bill. So for example, no tax 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:49.000 on tips that is in that bill. How the fuck 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.640 are you gonna do? No tax on deps? What's the tip? 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:55.480 What is in everything a tip? Maybe everything's a tip? 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.600 I have absolutely no idea. And then you're in a 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:03.760 situation where and look, I'm all for servers and bartenders 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:05.119 making more money. 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.320 That's not what this is though. I mean, it's just 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.920 like I'm a hedgephone manager? Is my you know, if 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:17.440 I make over a twenty percent return, can my you know, 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.160 can I carried interest be considered a tip? Yeah? 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.840 I don't. Unlike you, Molly I am not an economist, 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:24.040 so I guess. 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.720 As an economist, I can tell you. 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:28.960 So I don't understand. 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:33.320 This is some shit. That's what we're in, Isn't you 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:37.240 know when I got my degree from Harvard, my economics 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:44.040 degree from Harboro. Yes, the big beautiful boxom Byzantheum of 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:50.240 billionaire Bellicost. That bill has in it a lot of 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.879 cuts and the way it gets the cuts to medicaid. 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.760 So remember the top line. I'm going to go back 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.920 to Mike Johnson's when he managed to pass the Sea 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.399 are and not shut down the federal government, which for 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:05.560 him was like consider you know they they're going to 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:09.359 pass like three things. Okay, so the cr this and 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:14.120 maybe they'll name some post offices. When he passed this 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:17.480 film with the top lines on the on the budget 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:22.879 were eight hundred and eighty billion from medicaid. Eight hundred 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:24.760 and eighty billion dollars for medicaid. So the way they're 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:26.240 going to get there is it going to make it 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:30.200 harder to get medicaid, so like you're not going to 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:34.080 be able to call you just like this is elon Musks, 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.960 Like wait, what you know they're going to get rid 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.280 of waste fraud and abuse by making it impossible to 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:41.440 get the government service. 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:44.160 Yeah, that's been there. 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.160 Their sort of mo like you said, since the beginning 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:51.199 of Trump two point zero, is you know, we're going 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:54.600 to completely get rid of anything we can, and if 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.639 there are things that we can't completely get rid of, 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.120 we're just going to make them. Like like you said, 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:02.399 we're going to make the process to get those benefits 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:04.880 so arduous that a lot. 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:06.119 Of people won't be able to do it. 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:09.440 And what do you know, it'll be the people probably 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.080 who need it the most. It'll be the elderly, It'll 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.919 be you know, the people who maybe can't afford super 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.720 high speed internet to go online, to try to go 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:22.000 to you know, SSA, dot gov and places like that. 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:25.960 This is absolutely what they want to do. It's just 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:30.000 wild to see that side by side with things like 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:36.120 raising the no tax floor on the on estate taxes 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:39.320 to like fifteen I think it's fifteen million for single people, 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.080 thirty million for couples, so you can you can leave, 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:46.400 if you're a couple and you want to leave money 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:50.119 to your kids, you can leave thirty million dollars to 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:54.480 them tax free. And you know, I know for for 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:58.000 people like you, Molly, the one percent. You know, this 0:20:58.080 --> 0:20:59.920 is the kind of thing that you have been calling 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:03.919 for for years, if not tickets, but for ordinary for 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:09.320 hard working Americans like me and the listeners of fast Politics. 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:11.639 You know, this is a real slap in the face. 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:17.800 I love you and think you're funny again. Trump had 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.240 this coalition of working glass voters. 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:20.480 Right. 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:24.440 Supposely he had gotten these working glass voters to come 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.359 to him because he said to them that he was 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:30.040 going to fight for them, he was going to get 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:35.639 them stuff. Those are not people who have parents leaving 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:39.760 them thirty million dollars. You know, they are not. So 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:43.200 he is fucking the very people who put him in office. 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:45.520 Part of the story makes me so upset because I 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:50.800 think of here are Democrats who maybe there's some level 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:54.959 of incompetence, maybe there's some level of whatever, but you know, 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:58.320 ultimately and maybe they're being too much good guys. They 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.840 don't want to fuck over working people. Like it's just 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:06.520 so simple. One party wants to fuck over working people 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:12.359 to help crypto people and wealthy people benefit from tax cuts, 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:16.320 and the other party wants to you know, grow the 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:19.679