1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio Commies, a myth and Bullshit a radio 2 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: phonic novella Local Radio hosted by Malama Loca Mortis. Welcome 3 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: to season six of Local Radio's next Door Look at 4 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: a Radio is a radio phonic novella, which is just 5 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: a very extra way of saying a podcast. I'm Fiosa 6 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: and I'm Mala. Thanks for tuning into Last Time on 7 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: Local Radio, we had Jen from the Block. If you 8 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: have not tuned into that interview, do so. Now. We 9 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: love Jen. 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Somewhere, 67 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk more about Patreon and all the things 68 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: we have to offer on Patreon in a little bit. 69 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: We have a snippet of an interview that I did 70 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: last year with Flores, who is a recording artist. You 71 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: can hear the full thing on Patreon. But before we 72 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: do that and get into that portion of today's episode, 73 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: we do want to jump into Weird Things White Women 74 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: Did this week. We love this segment. We don't do 75 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: it every episode. Sometimes we need to wait until a 76 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: particularly notable weird the thing happens and then we can 77 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: bring you our analysis and our thoughts about it. So 78 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of things this week that we came 79 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: across on Twitter and that are streaming on like Hulu 80 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 1: and HBO Max. So there's a bunch to get into. 81 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: So let's get started. Let's get started. This is our 82 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: first Weird Things White Women Did of the season of 83 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: the year. So we're excited to bring back a listener. Faith. 84 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: And so we have noticed in increasing popularity visibility in 85 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: white girl scammer shows. And I know, Mama, you have 86 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: been keeping up with some of these shows. So can 87 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: you introduce some of these shows to us, the first 88 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: one being Inventing Anna. Okay, yes, so good, Such a 89 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: good show, like just as a TV show. This is 90 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: streaming on Netflix, and it is a dramatized like you know, 91 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: um drama basically about a dramatized drama. It's a drama. 92 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: Were's it's late, y'all when we're recording it. We're tired, 93 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: but we're giving the content. We're giving you the contents. 94 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: And it's a dramatized drama. It's a dramatized drama. It's 95 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: a dramatization of the story of Anna Delvy, who is 96 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: a real life scammer, a socialite wanna be who was 97 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: able to like trick a bunch of New York elite 98 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: and like the cultural circles into basically paying her way 99 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: through a lot of stuff, vacations, trips, parties, dinners, and 100 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: she also got a bunch of investors and banks to 101 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: give her tons of money to start like a social club. 102 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: And um claimed to have a very rich father, to 103 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: have vast assets in Europe, and that she was German, 104 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: but really she was Russian, and she gave herself a 105 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: fake name, a whole twisted affair. The show is so good, 106 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: very addicting, really well done, and basically it's following the 107 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: journalist who uncovered the Anna Adelvie story and really followed 108 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: it and wrote about it for the first time. So 109 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, we love our gossip. We love a crazy 110 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: white girl, and this one in particular is really interesting 111 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: because if you look at the real life Annadelvie and 112 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,559 Speaker 1: like the chatter around her, people are like, she kind 113 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: of looks like a little goofy, Like how did anybody 114 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: mistake her for like a German socialite, And it's just 115 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: interesting to see, like, Okay, this person was very cunning 116 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: but looks very like a girl next door ballet flats 117 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: in kind of a thing, you know what I mean. 118 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: Interesting the mastermind but a mastermind. Yeah, I mean, it's 119 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: also like the white girl scammers get like all the 120 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: media attention and the shows made about them. Now, I'm 121 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: sure this show is really good because it is a 122 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: Shonda land production, so I trust, I trust that it's 123 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: good and it dives into like really important things, but 124 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: it's still very interesting. You know. This is it's like 125 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: a very weird phenomenon where these white girls do shady 126 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: things and then get like, you know, really big book deals, 127 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: movie deals, what have you so interesting? And then that 128 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: brings us to the next one. Yes, and this is 129 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: my thing is like, um, I don't think invent inventing 130 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: Anna is talking about anything important, Like I think, like, 131 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any broader societal messages. I think 132 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: it's like a straight up drama like Shonda land classic 133 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: about like a very salacious drama, the drama about this 134 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: case that's been in the media. So it's a very 135 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: fun watch. The other one that I've been watching is 136 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: The Dropout um on Hulu starring Amanda Sea Freed. We 137 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: love her and she is playing the role of Elizabeth Holmes, 138 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: who was known in Silicon Valley as the like nineteen 139 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: year old whiz kid who founded their NOS and her 140 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: whole claim was that she had invented a technology that 141 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: could detect like a whole battery of disease with only 142 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: a single drop of blood. Like she was claiming to 143 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 1: eliminate the need for like excessive in her words, like 144 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: blood draws that gets sent to labs and then UM 145 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: test blood for things. She was claiming that she had 146 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: invented this technology j that eliminated that single prick of blood, 147 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: and she got these like billions and billions of dollars 148 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: in investments. She got big contracts with Walgreens to like 149 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: put these machines in like Walgreens health centers and have 150 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: actual patients go in and like get their blood work 151 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: done there with the the you know, drop of blood 152 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: technology that she claims to have invented. However, turns out 153 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: that that technology UM their betas and their prototypes never 154 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: actually worked. They uh, they're scientists, Like we're actually taking 155 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: the blood drops and using like um Quest diagnostic machines, 156 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: which is like the competitor like company. So they were 157 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: pretending to have invented new technology when really they were 158 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: just like using existing technology and even like doing full 159 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: on blood draws and then sending the blood to other labs. 160 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: So it was like then her professors from Stanford because 161 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: she like came up with this concept as like a 162 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: student at Stanford and dropped out at nineteen and founded 163 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: the company. Her professors at Stanford came forward and we're like, yeah, 164 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: she brought this idea to us, and we told her 165 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: that it was crazy and that it would never work. 166 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: And her whole deal was, like Steve Jobs is her idol, 167 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: girl Boss, girl Boss, girl Boss, Green Juice is only black. 168 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: Turtlenecks taught herself how not to blink and wanted to 169 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: like turn herself into like a Steve Jobs, like Mogul 170 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: girl Boss, Way Too Close to the Sun and Elizabeth Holmes. 171 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: Her whole deal was, um, if somebody tells you know 172 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: it's not possible, they just don't have a growth mindset 173 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: and they're just not the right people for you to 174 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: be talking to, Like you need to be surrounding yourself 175 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: with people who believe that anything is possible. So that 176 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: was her whole like insistence on I don't care what 177 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: anybody says, I believe in this idea, So I'm going 178 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: to take it all the way to the bank and 179 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: all the way to Walgreens. And her scientists were like, yeah, Um, 180 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: the accuracy rate for things like syphilis is like less 181 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: than fifty. So they were giving out these test results 182 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: to people for things like syphilis with like zero degree 183 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: of accuracy, like just crazy stuff. And again all that 184 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: to say, white girls can get away with a lot 185 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: and can get people to give them a lot of 186 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: money without very much reason or evidence. I'm like this 187 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: sounds like a lot of girl bosses on Instagram, you know, 188 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: like elevate your frequency, which is true, but you know 189 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: that type of girl bossy language where it's like don't 190 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: take no for an answer, but it's like if your 191 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: prototype doesn't work, then like you should take no for 192 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: an answer. Yeah, when you're talking about like the health 193 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: of human beings and test accuracy, absolutely test accuracy, communicable 194 00:12:55,480 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: disease um, you know, like hipp uh you know, like 195 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: the what is it that that doctors the Hippocratic oath, 196 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: Like you have to you there's ethics in these things. 197 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: So she was just like leaping over all the ethics 198 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: and saying her big motto was do or do not 199 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: there is no try. And that's like a Yoda quote 200 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: and so she would like say that in all of 201 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: her interviews and like had like big like wall size 202 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: paintings of that quote all over the There nos offices 203 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: like shoot literally never dared saying yeah do or do not? 204 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: There is no try like Yoda her guiding print. So 205 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: so those are some weird things that white women have 206 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: done this week. And there's more said. Do you want 207 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: to tell this is the weirdest of them all? This 208 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: is some This is some fucked up ship, But tell 209 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: them what happened this week? This is some weird, horrific 210 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: white women anti choice ships that we stumbled across online 211 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: on Twitter. Molla sent me this link and so this 212 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: anti choice quote activist in extremist um. She was arrested 213 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: because she um pretended to be a person that wanted 214 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: to receive abortion care, and when she was given access 215 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: to the clinic, she actually like took it over with 216 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: like a couple of people and were like obstructing people 217 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: from getting their care, which is actually a federal offense. 218 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: So she was arrested and what they found in her 219 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: home were the remains of five fetuses just in her home, 220 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: like medical waste possibly like I don't know how that's 221 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: been described yet, but five fetuses we're found at her home. Freaky, 222 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: Where did she get them from? What is she doing 223 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: with them? Whose fetuses are those? Like this is creepy. 224 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: So many questions and it's kind of like, are you 225 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: what are you trying going to prove? You know, it's 226 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: just not great. It freaks me out, and I'm yeah, 227 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: where did she get that? Where did they come from? 228 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: How would you have access to all of these fetuses? 229 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: Is she performing abortions in her house? But also, like 230 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, there's like a certain week weeks right where 231 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: like you can no longer receive an abortion, you're not, 232 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,239 Speaker 1: there are no abortions being performed on like fully formed fetuses, 233 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: So like, where did there? Where did they come from? 234 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: There's so many questions. We're gonna keep an eye on 235 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: this story, I mean, and by that, I mean we're 236 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: gonna just keep scrolling Twitter and if there's an update, 237 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: well we will tell you. We're gonna tell you breaking news. Um. 238 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, Elizabeth Handy um dang. So oh wait, no, 239 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: there's still one more weird white woman who did a 240 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: weird thing this week tell them theos no this past week. 241 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: I feel just like Amy Schumer being on the oscars 242 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: is kind of a weird thing. I don't really get 243 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: her humor, I don't get her bits. So I'm just 244 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: going to give her as a weird things my women 245 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: did and all to all, you know, white people and 246 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: non black people that decided to have an opinion about 247 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: anything not related to them, shut the funk up, is all, 248 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: is all I want to say. Yeah, it's the slap 249 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: heard around the world, and we have heard every possible 250 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: take at this stage of the game. UM, I will 251 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: say that I think one of the weirdest parts of 252 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: Amy's Oscar hosting was the dress with the bow on it. 253 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: Not a fan favorite, not my favorite, not my favorite. 254 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: Um And for those of you out there who are thinking, 255 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: oh my god, why are they going so hard on 256 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: the women, like what about the white men? I will 257 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: say fuck you Tom Sigura, You're a piece of ship, 258 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: because he went on Twitter and was saying the nastiest, meanest, 259 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: rudest thing is about Jada Pinkett and like for wet, 260 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: my only concern, my only take on this whole situation 261 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: is Jada. Okay, literally, that's that's that question. That's the 262 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: only thing that you should be asking and do so quietly, please, Jada. Yes, 263 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: nobody needs your Yeah, thank you. Tom sigh, thank you 264 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: very mud m Yeah, and you know, this is a 265 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: segment that started weird things white women did. That started 266 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: by the actual in person things that weird white women 267 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: would say to us. So sometimes, you know, that's actually 268 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: how the segment was born. It was like white women 269 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: that would say weird racist thing to us. And you know, 270 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: I will say now, especially like you know, working from home, Um, 271 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: my interaction with white people is very minimal, So sometimes 272 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: we got a draw from popular culture, and during the pandemic, 273 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: still in pandemic, we had we had to like look 274 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: at what was happening around us and the weird things 275 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: that we're going on. And so if you're like, like 276 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: Mala said, if you're thinking, like wait, why do they 277 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: do this segment, it's because of that. That's that's where 278 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: it came from. I'll never forget we should, okay, just 279 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: because like now I'm reliving the origins. So one of 280 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: the first ones and one of my favorites, me and 281 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: my friends Hatiana were at Perch downtown and it was 282 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: like a weekend, it was like during the day. So 283 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: there was a bunch of people there and this one 284 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: white lady was like sitting on a stool and not 285 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 1: a proper chair, because you know, perch like has like cute, 286 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: like couchy type seating, but it gets full and you 287 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: wait around and when it looks like someone's leaving, you 288 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: pounce and you get your seats. So we're doing what 289 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: everybody else is doing, and we're standing and we're having 290 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: our cocktails and we're having a lovely time. And this 291 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: white woman like gets up off of her stool and 292 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: she like points at it, and she like says to us, like, 293 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: oh my god, please sit here. Whenever I see women 294 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: of color standing, I'm like, please just rest. Please just 295 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: said please just rest direct quote. I will never forget 296 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: steered into my brain. I mean, Tatiana were like, uh, 297 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: we're okay, We're really fine, Like we're not exhausted. We're 298 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: at the perch, enjoying a seventeen dollar cocktail, Like we're okay. Honestly, 299 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: why we're on vacation, so just why Well, one of 300 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: my one of the things happened to me that I 301 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: don't know if you brought it on the segment, but 302 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: one of the things that weird white people did to 303 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: me was when I was buying a ton of laundry 304 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: detergent for the company I worked for where we had 305 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: thirty homes and one of my tasks was to go 306 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: and buy thirty thirty like you know, jugs of laundry detergent. Um. 307 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: And when they were scanning me, the casher was scanning me, 308 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: this like old white couple behind me was like, oh, 309 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: she must have a lot of kids. Jesus Christ, Like, 310 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: oh my god. And I was so stunned that I 311 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: said nothing because I was so shocked, like it like 312 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: me speechless because I'm like, oh my god, what kind 313 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: of micro Russian what kind of racist as ship that 314 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 1: these old white people just said to me? And I like, 315 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: we'll never forget because I didn't say anything. Um, And 316 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: so yeah, that's definitely like a weird white thing that 317 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: someone said to me that I will like not forget ever. Right. 318 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: And it's like so crazy because you look so young 319 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: first of all, and so tiny, like you don't look 320 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: like you've had a child, much less a bunch of children, 321 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: Like what are they even thinking? Yeah, I mean, and 322 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: this was like, you don't look like a mom. I don't. 323 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: I don't look like a mom. You don't. You just don't. 324 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: Don't I don't have any mom things on me ever, 325 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: you know, like like you know, you know, like mom, 326 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: mom's car stuff, Mom carry Harry things, mom things, mom things. Yeah, 327 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: respect to all moms, but like I am not a mother. 328 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: And so it was said in a very racist way, 329 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: stereotypical way. And so that is the genesis of weird 330 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: things white women did. That's the genesis. So that's why 331 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: we do it. Um. Yeah, but you're right, we don't 332 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: interact with white women like we used to. Well, also 333 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: because you were working at a predominantly white girl I 334 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: was working in Pasadena, Adam, which is why we had 335 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: to start this segment. Because Mama was like, I can't 336 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: take their ship, like I need to bet somewhere. I 337 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: needed an outlet. I needed an outlet. Good times. Honestly, 338 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: such good times, um our segment that is born of 339 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: the trauma. Yes, that's the good time. That being said, 340 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: if you have a weird thing a white woman did 341 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: to you or a white person did too, you can 342 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: all we send it in. We have a voice memo 343 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: type of situation called speak pipe on our website, or 344 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: you can send us an email and we might share 345 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: it on a future episode. Yes, had to look at 346 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: our radio dot com and uh make it happen. And 347 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: now we are very excited to introduce a little snippet 348 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: from an interview that I did with singer songwriter Flores. 349 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: You can listen to the full convo on Patreon and 350 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 1: just if you haven't visited our Patreon, you really should. 351 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: It's our look at our productions Patreon. There are four 352 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: tiers two years worth of content we've been posting consistently 353 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: since it's a mix of artwork, audio photos, obviously the 354 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: book club Um. When there are events we like let 355 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: you guys buy tickets first on Patreon, and things like 356 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: this interview with Flores. So a little bit about Flores Um. 357 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: She has been described by Pigeons and Planes as the 358 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: future of R and B and making it look easy 359 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: Wonderland Rights. Flora's rights from the heart, with her lyrics 360 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: stemming from personal experience. She is an indigenous Mexican American 361 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: song stress from the Chihuahuan Desert of El Paso, Texas. 362 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: She was born and raised in the Tigua Indian Reservation 363 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: and she is an R and B bilingual singer songwriter. 364 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: She has a Colors performance that you can see on 365 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: YouTube for her song Oceans Beautiful Song, Beautiful Colors performance, 366 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: and that video has over one point four million views. 367 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: She has nine million streams on Spotify alone. Really beautiful Artists. 368 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: So I hope you guys enjoy and again head to 369 00:23:47,320 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: the Patreon for more and mummies of it and little ship. 370 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: You're joining us from like Norway or somewhere right? Yeah, 371 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: I live really far. I live in Norway. I lived 372 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: here for several years. Can you tell us how you 373 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: went from you know, growing up living your life in 374 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: Texas and now finding yourself streamed millions of times all 375 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: over Spotify and living in Norway and living your scene 376 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: your songwriter dreams. Take us through the journey. Yeah, I 377 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: think I had pretty small town like mentality in ol Paso, 378 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: and then I met because we have a we have 379 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: a base there, effortless military base and it brings in 380 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: a lot of international people from different backgrounds. And I 381 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: met in nor region and I fell in love and 382 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: I came here basically often a love story. Are you 383 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: loving it? Are you do you right? In Norway? Do 384 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 1: you find you're able to be creative? How has that? 385 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: How is your location contributed to or shaped your artistic journey. 386 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: I think actually, I think that it's been more possible now, 387 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: well obviously because of the Internet, but also because Norway 388 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: has a really good quality of life by comparison to America, 389 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: Like you don't have to worry about healthcare, and you know, 390 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: university for most people is pretty cheap. It's like a 391 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: hundred dollars a semester. So it's like and and because 392 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: you get paid so well used to work anywhere, you 393 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: kind of have a decent standard to you. You get 394 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: paid five weeks of vacation every year. If you have 395 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: a baby, you got a year off for free. They 396 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: pay you your full salary. So it's like so many 397 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: things that make it easy for you to be creative 398 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: because you don't have to worry about all the other stuff. 399 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: And I felt when I lived in America it's always 400 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: a hustle. It's always the side hustle. Everything you have 401 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: to do to like just you know, pay the bills. 402 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: So there's a really big contrast because I didn't have 403 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: health insurance in America when I lived there, right, so 404 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: who among us who does right? But here it's like 405 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: and I see myself sometimes I don't even use it, 406 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: and I need to go to the doctor. I'm so 407 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: used to not going. Then I'm like I'll wait, I'll wait, 408 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: I'll wait, And then I'm like, oh, ship, I gotta 409 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: use this free health care. Yeah wow, the way America 410 00:26:54,160 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: has damaged us deeply. I don't need medical treatment. I'll 411 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: fall off for me to get there, right. Basically, so 412 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: so Florida's I'm so interested in learning just the genesis, 413 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: the beginning of When did you start singing? When did 414 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: you realize that you had a voice? Uh? Yeah, I'm 415 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: so curious how that that started for you. Um, it 416 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: started really young that I like to sing with musical family, 417 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: So I have a lot of My mom loves music, 418 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: and we grew up listening to it and we grew up. 419 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: I grew up actually in a Jehovah's Witness church, so 420 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: we actually sang quite a bit in the church. Terrible singing. 421 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: People sing this church singing. I feel like, unless it's 422 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: like a Baptist church, unless it's like a Black church. 423 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: I grew up in a Roman Catholic church with many 424 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: like Mexicans, Latinos, and the singing is not great. It's 425 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: not church yad like it's a little solemn, right, like 426 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: very like Gregorian chants, like yes, yes, yes, very much. So, 427 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: so that's what I kind of grew up in. But 428 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,239 Speaker 1: I think as a young girl, I had actually a 429 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: counselor when I was in middle school and he heard 430 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: me saying and then he started to record me, and 431 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: then we had like many tours through the middle schools 432 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: and then high school. I thought I was going to 433 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: be on Broadway at one point in my life because 434 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: I love theater at the time. Unfortunately, there isn't a 435 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: lot of places for people don't know that Broadway is 436 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: grueling and also it's very black and white. There is 437 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: nothing in between, like the racial aspect of it is 438 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: like growing up realizing oh my god, I'm never going 439 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: to be able to be any any lead actress in 440 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: any show was pretty sobering. But um, but then that 441 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: made me sort of venture on into making my own music. 442 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: And I think, like many years ago, maybe ten years ago, 443 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 1: when I was younger, it was really difficult to be 444 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: in the music industry because there was no Internet like 445 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: it was like at its infancy, and so it was 446 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: like either who you knew or having money helps like 447 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: a lot to get at yours and there was like 448 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: no space for us. I feel like this is like 449 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: a time to be alive, really really really, it's like 450 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: a renaissance. Yeah, it's amazing. I'm I feel lucky to 451 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,239 Speaker 1: be a part of it. Really, and you do like 452 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: you're part of the renaissance, the pioneer. Thank you, thank you. 453 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. I mean, just thinking about 454 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: what would it take to become a star, say in 455 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: the day of like a Marilyn Monroe, right, and you 456 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: think about there were only a handful of studios working, 457 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: a handful of networks, a handful of people calling the shots, 458 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: and you really had to kind of be picked out 459 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: of obscurity, like someone had to pluck you out and decide, 460 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: we're putting this girl on, We're making her a star. 461 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: We're putting her in the classes, we're putting her in show, 462 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: we're putting her name in lights, and we're putting her 463 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: out there. These days, you know, we put ourselves out there, 464 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: you know. We we give ourselves stage names, and we 465 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: figure out our aesthetic, and we find our audience and 466 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: we build our platforms and we just make ourselves stars now, 467 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: which I think it's empowering. It's also exhausting. Honey, I'm tired. 468 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm so tired. I mean, your page is so gorgeous. 469 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: I just have to say it, thank you. But enough 470 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: about my Instagram page. We need to talk about your 471 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: beautiful work on this Color's performance. I am just blown 472 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: away by your voice and by how much your music 473 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: is just really taking off and I love to see it. 474 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: You know, my family is from Chihuahua, Mexico, and so 475 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: you don't always yeah, you don't always get that like global, 476 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Like there's a Chihuahua connection and it's 477 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: R and B and she's killing the game and she's 478 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: in Norway, Like this is amazing. How have your fans 479 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: been connecting with you? And I'm so curious, like what 480 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: do people say to you about your music and what 481 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: it does for them? Oh, that's a great question. Um, 482 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: I feel like I have I have a very small 483 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: fan base, but the people that I have known, I've 484 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: known them for years. Like the people that are always 485 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 1: talking to me, some of them are good friends of 486 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: mine now and we're just like on active. I'm very 487 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: active with people who reach out to me. So when 488 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, it helped me through this period of 489 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: my life or I lost a family member here and 490 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: and this helped me pull me through this. Then I 491 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, even if it's one person, it's 492 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: just it means the world to me. So I actually 493 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: have a very personal relationship with the fans that I 494 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: do have because they've just been there since day one. 495 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: Because the Color's video is in two thousand seventeen, those 496 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: are a really long time with pre pandemic. Yeah, Like 497 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: I had all these things that we were going to do, 498 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: right was the year, all these things and then and 499 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: then it was a pandemic, you know. But yeah, I 500 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: think it makes you feel like you're valid. I get 501 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people feeling saying that, like they feel 502 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: the emotion of my voice, and I think that that's 503 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: really important to have because a lot of the times, 504 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: and I don't mean to throw shade at a lot 505 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: of artists, but there's a lot of auto tune in 506 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: this industry, and for me, that's like I will never 507 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: use it in my life because I'm a bit old school. 508 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: Because you know, you should hear what these do. They 509 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: have something to say, like it can you feel the 510 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: visceral emotion in the songs they write? And a lot 511 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: of people don't write their song we either anymore, so 512 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: it's it's changed a lot, but then not, I think, um, 513 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: for the most part, my fans are really great. I'm 514 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: excited to get new fans and I'm curious how that 515 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: will be. But because I like to talk to everybody, 516 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I may not have a lot of 517 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 1: time to talk to everyone, but it's so hard hard, right, 518 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: because it's like the folks that reach out to you, 519 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: like you want to engage with all of them, and 520 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: we I think we try, We try our best, responding 521 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: to comments and messages, but but sometimes it's it's just 522 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: a lot. There's only so many fingers on our hands, 523 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: you know, we can only talk to so many people. 524 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: But it's so exciting. I love that you have die hards. 525 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: I think that that's like the sign of like a 526 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: long lasting career. All right, y'all, So to listen to 527 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: the rest of that interview, you can head over to 528 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: Patreon dot com slash Look Underscore Productions. Thank you so 529 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: much for tuning into another radio. We hope you enjoyed 530 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: our Weird Things White Women Did segment. Uh and just 531 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: let us know what you think of this episode. Until 532 00:33:47,640 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: next time. Radio Radio Ya Radio Pummies of Myth and Bullshit, 533 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: a radiophonic novella local radio hosted by Malamuno and THEO 534 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: saf