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Speaker 3: We've got Isaiah standback back with Talking Cowboys once again

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Speaker 3: in studio. Of course, you heard him out in an Oxnard, California. Patrick, No,

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Speaker 3: see Walker. We've got Josh Rodriguez, extraordinary who did a

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Speaker 3: phenomenal job hosting in our absence.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you guys, it feels right. I'm Kyle yeomens. We've

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Speaker 2: got a new logo. What the heck? Yes, it's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: It is beautiful. Killed it so pretty. It looks like

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Speaker 2: a like a call of duty badge.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was thinking like a badge, a belt buckle

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Speaker 3: or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Do that to me.

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Speaker 4: Just because you guys haven't seen your boy online, don't

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Speaker 2: Buttons every time I pop online.

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Speaker 3: Out and show yeah every time they every time I

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Speaker 3: And I'm trying to figure things out along.

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Speaker 2: The way, which is not easy to do. I see

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Speaker 2: Barry Church online. I see him online. Isn't it just?

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Speaker 2: It's not a big boy contract. Take care of your fam.

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Speaker 4: Drink wine, go golfing, go golfing, play some Xbox live

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Speaker 4: in South you know what?

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Speaker 2: Swirl my day. Yay frody.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're back. We're better than ever. Cannot wait for

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Speaker 3: this season. And if you're a part of Talking Cowboys Nation,

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Speaker 3: we appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: We really do.

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Speaker 3: And uh, especially from an individual standpoint, I appreciate all

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Speaker 3: of you sticking with Josh and with Pat throughout training.

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Speaker 2: Camp and and you guys carried the show.

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Speaker 5: Nate Newton on.

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Speaker 3: Still chill, cop hopped on there a little bit. Really

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Speaker 3: really glad that we were able to keep this thing rolling.

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Speaker 3: And glad you guys are back. I missed you guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we got to be back.

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Speaker 2: Feeling is mutual, my friend, That's why we were so

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Speaker 2: excited when we saw you guys just appear out of

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Speaker 2: the vapor the morning vapor vaper, you from coach, you

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Speaker 2: from first class, don't remind me.

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Speaker 3: All right, it is a regular season episode because the

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Speaker 3: preseason is in.

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Speaker 2: The rear view mirror.

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Speaker 3: Thank goodness, it is finally over. I mean, there's a

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Speaker 3: lot we can take away, a lot we can talk about.

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Speaker 3: But as of three pm tomorrow, we will know what

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Speaker 3: this Dallas Cowboys football team will look like, at least

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Speaker 3: to start at least. Yeah, at least for a final

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Speaker 3: is not final, and we'll talk about that a little

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Speaker 3: bit later on. But let's start by reviewing the twenty

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Speaker 3: six nineteen loss to the Los Angeles Chargers. It was

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Speaker 2: And T Stadium.

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Speaker 3: Isaiah, you did a phenomenal job on the broadcast for that,

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Speaker 3: and I mean, where else do we start then?

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Speaker 5: And I put it in the rundown.

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Speaker 2: I just put Trey Lance question mark. How many question

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Speaker 2: marks were there? At least five, maybe as many interceptions.

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Speaker 5: As or question marks as interceptions?

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Speaker 2: Trey listen, listen, listen, listen. No, no, listen.

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Speaker 5: No, don't clarify.

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Speaker 4: It's worthy like he wasn't as bad as everybody thinks.

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Speaker 2: No, and that's why I broke it down today. I

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Speaker 2: broke it down. I put it on YouTube.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know where I'm not doing videos yet

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Speaker 4: breakdowns for the Cowboys, But go go go.

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Speaker 2: To the im standbag YouTube channel.

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Speaker 4: I posted a video this morning a bout six am,

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Speaker 4: and it breaks down all five interceptions of Trey Lance.

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Speaker 2: Is there growth?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, there's learning experiences that he has to get that

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Speaker 4: he has to definitely use the tape to go ahead

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Speaker 4: and grow from. But it's not as bad as everybody thinks. Okay,

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Speaker 4: it's just not. So go watch it, you guys, go

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Speaker 4: ahead and comment back to me. Let me know what

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Speaker 4: you think. Right, But you're talking about somebody.

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Speaker 2: This is not excusees. This is just facts.

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Speaker 4: Three hundred and nineteen pass attempts in college. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: in college he had. I don't have my numbers right

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Speaker 4: twenty seven, one hundred and thirty or something like that

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Speaker 4: in preseason. Wow, thirty five percent of his collegiate pass

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Speaker 4: attempts were had in a three game span in the

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Speaker 4: preseason for the Dallas Cowboys. He has a lot to learn.

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Speaker 4: The one thing that he's not doing is duplicating mistakes. Now,

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Speaker 4: you guys can say, well, those five interceptions that looks

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Speaker 4: like a duplication to me, tome five.

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Speaker 2: They were all different. There was cover one, there was

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Speaker 4: One, blitz with his own with his own drop. All

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Speaker 4: these looks were completely different. The one thing that I respected,

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Speaker 4: that he was not turning the ball over in those

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Speaker 4: everybody wants him to become, then he has to take

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Speaker 4: those risks. He has to pull the trigger. He has

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Speaker 4: to take those risks. And you and by taking those risks,

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Speaker 4: you have to learn from your mistakes. And there is

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Speaker 4: no better way to learn from your mistakes and to

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Speaker 4: put them on film. Go out there and take those risks,

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Speaker 4: get on to get the coaching, get a little red

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Speaker 4: light around you, around yourself in the film room, and

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Speaker 4: then go ahead and make sure that those mistakes don't

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Speaker 4: happen again. They weren't real season games, was preseason games.

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Speaker 4: And he has never experiences any of those things that

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Speaker 3: Against some accountants and some lawyers and they. However, the

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Speaker 3: one thing I disagree on and everything you said is right.

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Speaker 3: He's twenty four years old. He hasn't seen game action

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Speaker 3: in quite some time. He hasn't necessarily played poorly in

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Speaker 3: the first two preseason games. No, he had some ball

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Speaker 3: placement issues, and he had some overthrows and things like that.

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Speaker 3: That's all knocking the rust off of a girl who

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Speaker 3: you throw five interceptions, something is wrong.

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Speaker 2: You just don't throw five interceptions.

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Speaker 3: He's the second quarterback in preseason history, not Cowboys history,

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Speaker 3: NFL preseason history with three games. He had three games

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Speaker 3: to throw it, and he threw five picks. That doesn't

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Speaker 2: It doesn't.

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Speaker 4: And also on that breakdown, okay, you guys in Ah

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Speaker 4: in the sky breakdown out a half.

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Speaker 2: You guys will see there was some protection issues. Major

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Speaker 4: Whether you can run a four to four or not Okay,

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Speaker 4: whether you possessed the leg capabilities of a Tom Brady, Okay,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter who you are. You cannot sit back

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Speaker 4: there and throw accurate passes and make sound decisions when

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Speaker 4: simultaneously being beat by their one on one matchups. So again,

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Speaker 4: I'm not excusing the the interceptions, but I'm saying there

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Speaker 4: are other causes. It kind of sounds like no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: no, no no. He had five interceptions that he's responsible for.

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Speaker 4: He has to account for those. They're on his stat

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Speaker 4: one thing that I can say about him is he

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Speaker 4: has never, from what we've seen, duplicated the same mistake.

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Speaker 5: That's fair. I think I like that he took a

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Speaker 5: lot of chances throwing the ball. This is the performance

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Speaker 5: I was hoping to see in his first preseason game,

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Speaker 5: where he was running, gunning, throwing picks and dimes like

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Speaker 5: he was. I needed to see this in the first game.

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Speaker 5: His first game was very conservative, if he's very aware

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Speaker 5: of his surroundings and not throwing the risky ball. This

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Speaker 5: one was the absolute opposite of that. He felt confident

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Speaker 5: going in and it led to a lot of interceptions,

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Speaker 5: which is okay in the preseason, of course, you want

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Speaker 5: a lot of the picks came from as well. Unfortunately

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Speaker 5: the interceptions came in bunches. But like you said, he's

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Speaker 5: not duplicating the mistakes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care what the name is on the

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Speaker 2: back of the jersey. Five interceptions. This cannot happen. It

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Speaker 2: simply cannot happen. Now, you guys know me preseason.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, everything is going to

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Speaker 3: be preseason. It's all got an asterisk.

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Speaker 2: Way, because we had this conversation out knockxknow, I wanted

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Speaker 2: to see him take more risks with his arm because

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Speaker 2: and you heard me say it. I said, no risk,

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Speaker 2: no reward. I also said, go back and find the receipts, folks,

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Speaker 2: I said, I'm fine if he tosses one or two interceptions,

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Speaker 2: if that comes along with three or four touchdowns, is

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Speaker 2: that what happened? Now, that's that's that's not this is

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Speaker 2: race showed he Race showed himself, right. But speaking of right,

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Speaker 2: he showed himself all things work together when it comes

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Speaker 2: to a mistake for a full quarterback or a reward

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Speaker 2: for a quarterback. So Isaiah makes an excellent point. There

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Speaker 2: was a couple of times, and one time in particular,

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Speaker 2: I think it was, well, let's go in Bass, correct

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Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong, But one of those instances of

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Speaker 2: interceptions where the edges completely collapsed and well, let's go

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Speaker 2: got beat like a destroyed okay, and then it led

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Speaker 2: to an interception. But even on that interception, it didn't

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Speaker 2: have to turn into that to an interception, right, It's

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Speaker 2: it's processing more quickly, which is something I talked about

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Speaker 2: with him. And the first interception, I think it was

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Speaker 2: Jaylen Cropper out to the flat right, so that that

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Speaker 2: wasn't pressure. That was almost by design. So he rolled

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Speaker 2: out a little bit. If he had recognized that three

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Speaker 2: people were bearing down on Cropper it was two dbs

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Speaker 2: because I was a little bit. He was on a

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Speaker 2: flight like ten minutes. So if Trey Lance, if he

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Speaker 2: even pumps fake pump, fakes in that scenario, all three

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Speaker 2: a layup, likely a touchdown that flips the scenario as

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Speaker 2: far as the score is concerned. Now, it's also true,

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Speaker 2: this is where it comes in. You got to help

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Speaker 2: your quarterback Deontay Burnett. That deep ball end zone right side,

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Speaker 2: and you said it live and you was like, that's

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Speaker 2: a ball. To quote Isaiah's standback's live coverage. He was like,

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Speaker 2: that's a ball, and it absolutely was. Your wide receiver

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Speaker 2: rewards you with that. That line looks a little little

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Speaker 2: bit better, and maybe that builds some confidence that then

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Speaker 2: or two. So all things work together. The offensive line

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Speaker 2: let's blow through the interceptions. Okay, if I remember off

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Speaker 4: Interception number one was the flat route. Okay, those third

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Speaker 4: past was intercepted because of bad location, not because of

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Speaker 4: bad decision, bad location. He was going to the right

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Speaker 3: That was one of the knocks you had against him

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And that has to improve. And that's what I'm

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Speaker 2: Yes, and it would have been it would have been

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Speaker 4: But that was just an amazing play, amazing read, amazing

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Speaker 3: Two was where it was Jefferson again intended for Burnette

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Speaker 4: Okay, So that was a really bad decision. That was

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Speaker 2: Back of the end zone.

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Speaker 3: The second one or the third one was continued over

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Speaker 4: this was the inside he dropped. This was the inside blitz. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: And what he did not see was the defensive end

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Speaker 4: They had two slant routes on that particular play. He

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Speaker 2: Well, he just didn't see this defensive end. Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: that's just a heck of a scheme by the defense.

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Speaker 2: He took the bait because he didn't Brash didn't just

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Speaker 2: ad bo language. He baited him. He baited him with

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Speaker 4: It's a great scheme and and a lot And I'm

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Speaker 4: not just saying it's not just a Trey Lance problem.

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Speaker 2: There's another quarterback in that room who has struggled.

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Speaker 5: Oh that was going to be my next point.

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Speaker 2: There's another quarterback who just happens to wear how on the.

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Speaker 3: Time, how many times have we said that about Dak

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Speaker 3: to be able to read and react as a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Trey Lance didn't do that. But you're giving a pass

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Speaker 6: No, no.

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Speaker 4: I'm not giving a pass. I'm not giving a pass.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying give credit where credit is due. That's

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Speaker 4: he has to learn from.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't seen.

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Speaker 4: We haven't seen him experience that coverage before a blitz

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Speaker 4: You don't typically even see that in preseason, So I'm

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Speaker 4: not making excuse.

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Speaker 2: He will learn from it.

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Speaker 4: That's an interception on him, But he was going again

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Speaker 4: to the right spot. He was throwing to the right

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Speaker 2: I'll learn from that. Okay, not making excuse, just say

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Speaker 3: Interception four, he was going for Johnson. They were at

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Speaker 2: That's not that's the play of the entire office of line.

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Speaker 3: He got to catch the but before Cam Johnson.

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Speaker 2: The sinner what was his name? It was Shepley got

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Speaker 2: Well, let's go. I believe it was at the right

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Speaker 4: The destroyed all three the entire right side of the

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Speaker 2: He still delivered a good ball.

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Speaker 4: He delivered a heck of a ball under pressure with

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Speaker 2: Was one of the best plays. He made a dime

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Speaker 4: That's like throwing a post game. That's like Kevin Garnett

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Johnson just got out muscle. He got out muscle.

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Speaker 2: Somebody wanted it. Might will agree with this one.

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Speaker 3: That one is down on No, No, that was he

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Speaker 3: gave him a chance again, stat line, I have to

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Speaker 2: Could I put the ball put on his bread baskets?

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Speaker 2: That one is not on him because that was a

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Speaker 4: Ball location another issue again, cover four all streaks going

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Speaker 4: down the field, he was going to the right man.

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Speaker 4: The accuracy has to improve, it has to improve.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 4: If he's to relax the elbow drop, I have to

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Speaker 4: the one consistent thing that I say that he has

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Speaker 4: he's going to the right reads. That is a greater troupe,

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Speaker 4: greater greater was there was a freaking alert for me.

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Speaker 4: If there's a quarterback who's making bad decision your red flag.

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Speaker 4: If he's making bad decisions, there's nothing as a coach

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Speaker 3: So but he's not in in total, and we're talking

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Speaker 5: One statistical category.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he was thirty three of forty nine passing,

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Speaker 2: Ninety on the ground and another touchdown on the ground.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately also in interceptions at that point.

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Speaker 3: But the whole idea around Trey Lance right now is

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Speaker 2: Not this year and not maybe even next year. Cooper

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Speaker 3: Still your backup quarterback. That's why he saw six pass

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Speaker 2: Do you have that decision based off of what you

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Speaker 2: I'm not wilfully ignoring it by. I said this aknock start.

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Speaker 2: I know you can run. That's not the evaluation.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, that's the that's the what's the word I'm

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Speaker 5: That's why he's still on the team. Is that is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was looking wheels quite vicish, insane.

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Speaker 5: I was talking to Michael Parsons. I didn't even see it.

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Speaker 2: You actually were, though, that was I was okay, side

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Speaker 3: I was hoping Micha it would give us a reaction

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Speaker 2: And they were like, yeah, guy, Mike. It just kind

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Speaker 5: Watched it and I was like, all right, because he's like.

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Speaker 2: The standard, the standard is the standard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he seems kind of like that kind of got

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Speaker 2: If it were a regular season game, and uh and

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Speaker 2: because that's as much evaluation as it is about finding

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Speaker 2: you won the game. You won the game. But in

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Speaker 2: But for me, that doesn't move the needle because I

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Speaker 5: Get them as a third string now.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to get them in this outfit because

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Speaker 2: for the top two quarterbacks who already said so, did

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Speaker 2: Trey Lance make strides over preseason game, the preseason opener.

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Speaker 2: We had a lot of confidence in him going into

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Speaker 2: this game that he can you that trajectory in some aspects.

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Speaker 2: He did that ball to Deontay Burnett, that deep ball,

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Speaker 2: that's a ball chef the faith of Lloyd. That's a

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Speaker 2: repeat opposite side. But that shows he can show some touch,

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Speaker 2: which is the bigger problem is he doesn't consistently show

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Speaker 2: that touch. That's the third and four right to Cam Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Cam drops that ball. But again, so there's a skill

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Speaker 2: set there that I don't argue could likely be untapped.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen growth? He had the reps in three games.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen growth? Yes? Now, can I give an

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Speaker 2: add on to that risk, I've seen growth, yes, I

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Speaker 2: haven't seen enough growth that would make me more insane. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because Kyle Post is a wonderful question. He did it subtly.

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Speaker 2: I caught that though. It was like he won't be

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Speaker 2: your backup this year and maybe not nicking. That's the problem.

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Speaker 2: There you go, and that's the problem, and that's where

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Speaker 2: I backpedal, and that's the problem.

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Speaker 4: I agree, he has not shown enough this preseason to

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Speaker 4: warrant him to be the backup going into the regular season. No,

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Speaker 4: that's my statement state in terms of going forward, because

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Speaker 4: this Dak deal is going to get done. Dak and

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Speaker 4: CD will be talking about that sooner than later. But

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Speaker 4: that deal, yeah, most likely that deal will be getting

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Speaker 4: done soon. But once that deal takes place, okay, and

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Speaker 4: you go throughout this season next year, yes, because the

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Speaker 4: upside for me is greater than where he's at right now.

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Speaker 4: And I know a lot of times people say, well,

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Speaker 4: he got drafted off potential. You're absolutely correct. He got

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Speaker 4: drafted off the potential. And I believe that Cooper Rush

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Speaker 4: is most Cooper Rush is obviously leaps and bounds ahead

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Speaker 4: of him in terms of consistency and what in terms

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Speaker 4: of just being the tried and true type of guy.

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Speaker 2: But in terms of projections.

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Speaker 4: And in the in the and the and where where

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Speaker 4: he where Trey Lance is going next year, I don't

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Speaker 4: see how this will be even a conversation. I don't

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Speaker 4: see how this will be a conversation because where he's

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Speaker 4: trending right now and the growth that I've seen him

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Speaker 4: have in three games, in three games preseason games where

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Speaker 4: he's rotating is he had three sinners. He's had some

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Speaker 4: of the worst protection that you can have up front.

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Speaker 4: He's had how many different receivers that he's had to

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Speaker 4: throw too. He's had no consistency and people need to

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Speaker 4: understand that. And I'm not making excuse, I'm just telling

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Speaker 4: the real there's no consistency. And when you talk about

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Speaker 4: the regular season and quarterbacks being effective in the regular season,

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Speaker 4: the number one thing people look to us what's being

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Speaker 4: consistent for them? They haven't had a consistent old line.

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Speaker 4: They haven't had consistent receivers. Well, you can't have consistency

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Speaker 4: when you're fighting for a number two or number three job.

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Speaker 2: That's the reality. So that's what he's been given.

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Speaker 4: Say to the point where the dog on sinner is

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Speaker 4: snapping the ball on the ground, right, we saw that

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Speaker 4: in the game because why because there's no mesh there,

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Speaker 4: there's no chemistry there. Right, it just took snaps with

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Speaker 4: two other guys. Now you're coming in right handoff attempt,

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Speaker 4: But the best, not him though. That's that's mesh. That's

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Speaker 4: mesh with the running backs, right. So that's again all

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Speaker 4: that stuff comes with. Hey, I'm used to handing the

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Speaker 4: ball out to Kyle all day long. I can do

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Speaker 4: that right now, Dak and Z can do that in

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Speaker 4: their now. Josh comes in, I don't. You're not closing

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Speaker 4: your arms at the same time, right the message instead

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Speaker 4: all that stuff matters them.

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Speaker 2: But all that stuff matters right.

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Speaker 4: So these are all the things that I want people

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Speaker 4: to understand about the challenges that he is sustaining and

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Speaker 4: the growth that he's had amongst those challenges. Not excusing

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Speaker 4: the decisions, not excusing them of the aar and throws,

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Speaker 4: not excusing any of those things. But what I am

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Speaker 4: saying is have some empathy for the fact that he

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Speaker 4: will grow from these things. And you cannot say he

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Speaker 4: keeps doing that, he keeps doing that, he keeps doing that.

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Speaker 4: We have not been able to say that aside from

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Speaker 4: his accuracy right ball location.

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Speaker 2: Those are the.

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Speaker 4: Things that can improve now that he's one hundred and

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Speaker 4: thirty reps into it, yea.

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Speaker 2: And you know it won't improve and ideally won't get

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Speaker 2: another rep until next preseason and then at that point

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Speaker 2: we don't know in this outfit.

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Speaker 4: Those are reps that we that we will see that

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Speaker 4: the public will say, which he's gonna get a ton

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Speaker 4: of work with practice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what you're saying is what we agree. I think

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Speaker 2: we can all agree we know what Cooper Rush is. Yes, right,

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Speaker 2: that's the known versus the unknown just Tredy Lance. So

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Speaker 2: the reward might be greater with Tredey Lance than Cooper Rush,

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Speaker 2: but so the risk, yes, and both are going into

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Speaker 2: a contract year.

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Speaker 4: When when you came to pull tri next year because

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Speaker 4: he was playing a safe the first two games and

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Speaker 4: nobody had any problems.

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Speaker 2: I had a problem. But you have a problem with

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Speaker 2: that he was playing it safe, I said, so he was,

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Speaker 2: so he was being Rush and you had a problem.

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Speaker 2: I had a problem that I had a problem that

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Speaker 2: he wasn't pulling the trigger enough. Agree because in conjunction with.

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Speaker 3: If there was a time to throw five interceptions, it's

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Speaker 3: this time.

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Speaker 2: This is his last shot at it.

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Speaker 3: You're going to go into still doesn't excuse, like you say,

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Speaker 3: the fact that there is going to be a big

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Speaker 3: fat five right up on top of his interception column.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot but if you take that away, he

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Speaker 3: did improve and he showed improvement. It's the consistency in

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Speaker 3: the ball placement that I'm not on board with me.

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Speaker 2: There's not consistent.

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Speaker 3: That was as much of a roller coaster game and

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Speaker 3: a roller coaster offseason or preseason that you could ever

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Speaker 3: have at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: And I still don't know how I feel about.

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Speaker 5: Or Trey Lan ants in the future going forward.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I wanted an answer to, because he

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Speaker 3: is going into a contract year.

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Speaker 2: You have to sign him going into next year. Is

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Speaker 2: your is your? Is your?

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Speaker 4: Anybody shoot around here is like Sporting Clays pistols. You're

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Speaker 4: talking like like hyeah, yeah, but when you go to

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Speaker 4: break in your gun, how many rounds did I say to.

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Speaker 2: Put through it? One hundred? Right?

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Speaker 4: A thousand rounds out one thousand? Your guys are not

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Speaker 4: broken into you get a thousand rounds. How many rounds

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Speaker 4: did he have in college three nineteen? How many does

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Speaker 4: he have in the league? So he's not even he's

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Speaker 4: not even halfway broken.

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Speaker 2: In terms of live reps. Yes, it's also difference in

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Speaker 4: There is no Smithy's you I understand, yes, right, the

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Speaker 4: gold standard's broken in after a thousand.

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 4: Because now I've worked out the kinks, and I know

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Speaker 4: that I'm consistent. I know I know what works and

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Speaker 4: I know what doesn't work. There are different brands.

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Speaker 1: To Talking Cowboys, Welcome back to talking to child.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: There was a debate because apparently they changed one of

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Speaker 3: the reads on men, and Bean was like, do you

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Speaker 3: the reads, but they were like, wait, we changed it.

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Speaker 3: And then right going into the read, being normally says

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Speaker 3: go Kyle, and he goes go whoever.

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Speaker 5: Right at the jump.

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Speaker 2: We'll hit quite the right on the third segment.

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Speaker 5: Dude, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: It was a gift.

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Speaker 3: The uh, We've got a lot of preseason to talk about.

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Speaker 3: We took a lot of time there, so I would

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Speaker 3: love to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: But maybe next time. And you can tell the time

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Speaker 2: on that watch. I do, I know and time is

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Speaker 2: clearly money on that Wow, exactly right. So here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: There were so many question marks about the running back position,

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Speaker 3: wide receiver, offensive line, defensive line.

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Speaker 5: Which one of those position groups?

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Speaker 3: And I'll start with you, Pat, have you felt more

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Speaker 3: confident in now that the preseason game is over.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling more confident in the defensive line right now,

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Speaker 2: most certainly. And that's that's due to how quickly guys

661
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: like al Klaude Muhammad have been able to kind of

662
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: hit the ground running for the Cowboys. We saw tyros

663
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: Wheat flash a couple of times against the Chargers. It's

664
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: two years in a row for him. Also, Darrow Johnson,

665
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: if you go back and look at, excuse me, the

666
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: Raiders game on that pick six to keim On Hall,

667
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: Darrel Johnson was on the left side. He helped collapse

668
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: that with AQM and that's what forced that Eric throw

669
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: that Kimon ran back for the pick six. So when

670
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: you talk about depth, you lost Sam Williams. But before

671
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: you lose Sam Williams, you lose During Armstrong and Dante Fowler.

672
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Speaker 2: So the question, even before training camp got underway was

673
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: what does this depth look like opposite to Marcus Lawrence

674
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: or even behind the Marcus lawnch right, you expect Sam

675
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: Williams to have a breakout year to supplement the losses

676
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: of Dante Endors. You lose Sam, oh well, you're in

677
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,479
Speaker 2: dire straits now. Immediately you know what are you gonna do?

678
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: What do they do? They work out al Quaudem Muhammad,

679
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 2: They work out Sha Katoni, they work out Carl Lawson.

680
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: Put Carl Lawson on the shelf for the moment. Fast

681
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: forward Cha Katoni wave injured, Al Laudia Muhammat he's playing,

682
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: he's showing some real things and now Carl Lawson is

683
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: in the building. Slide to his left. Who you go

684
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: and get Jordan Phillips. Yep, you added Jordan Phillips. Okay,

685
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: slide there to the left Mazzie Smith is expected to

686
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: take that step up. But I also and I love

687
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying from Rogers, this is a big You

688
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: have rookie seventh round pick before training camp, coming out

689
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: of rookie mini camp, going into mandatory mini camp, I said,

690
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: I have him on my roster and this let's just

691
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: see it unfold. I think he's one, and it's unfolded

692
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: that way, and then of course you got you know, tanking.

693
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: Then Marshawn Kneeling, He's come on quickly. The rookie second

694
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: round pick has so for me, when you talk about

695
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: all the positions that you had, at some point in

696
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: training camp, you had a red flag on right now.

697
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a forest green flag, but

698
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: it might be a lime green flag. Colora and Bowld

699
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: say it's yellow. That's fair, yeah, but it's not a

700
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: deep green because there's still some youth, like we're talking

701
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: about Tyrus and Darrell and Marshawn. But at the same time,

702
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's for the most part when

703
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: you add a Carl Loston and Jordan Phillips and hell,

704
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: even Albert Huggins started to come on after he made

705
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: the mistake. In the scrimmage. Yeah, you know, but yeah,

706
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: defensive line, I feel not great, but I feel good.

707
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 5: Wide receivers. I'm very confident about the wide receiver.

708
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: And then that Parsons go, oh yeah, pretty good.

709
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 5: That guy too as well, who is now a defensive

710
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 5: and he didn't even play in the preseason.

711
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Yeah, what did we really

712
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: see that guy?

713
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 5: Tyler?

714
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 10: No?

715
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Speaker 5: No, No, wide receivers. Wide receivers, I'm feeling very confident about.

716
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 5: It's really hard for me to look past the first

717
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 5: six wide receivers on this team. Of course, you have

718
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 5: Lamb Cooks, Tolbert Turpin, floorinoy Brooks. That's all I need, Like,

719
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Speaker 5: I don't think I need to see anything else.

720
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Speaker 3: So you would just take the five there six, that six.

721
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 5: Lamb Cooks, Tolbert Turpin, flooroy Brooks.

722
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Speaker 2: Oh so it is sick.

723
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Speaker 5: Sorry, Yeah, Cropper and Tyron, Billy Johnson. We talked a

724
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Speaker 5: lot about them on talking over the first few episodes.

725
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 5: The stock has gone way down on these guys. You

726
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 5: saw it at camp, you did not see it on

727
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 5: the field in the preseason from them, especially Cropper. A

728
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 5: big disappointment for for me watching him kind of It's

729
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 5: like we said before, the ball placement wasn't there for him,

730
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 5: but he also wasn't helping his quarterback out. Sure and

731
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 5: Tyron Billy Johnson, same thing just kind of lost.

732
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Speaker 2: The weren't really even there for Tyron Billy jon target targets.

733
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Speaker 5: The targets were not Sure.

734
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Speaker 2: He didn't get targeted until the preseason finale. Yeah. Where

735
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: how many snaps did he play though? I mean, is

736
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: that a valid question. I don't think he played a ton,

737
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: I really don't.

738
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Speaker 5: I mean, I'll give you he was on the field,

739
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 5: but like like we said, the targets were not there

740
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Speaker 5: for him, and even on special teams, I don't think

741
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 5: he really showed any sort of burst or any sort

742
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 5: of uh. He he didn't make a proclamation like I

743
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 5: need to be on this team because.

744
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: Of X y Z.

745
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 5: It was not there for me.

746
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: And you know who did make that that push over

747
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: the course of especially the last two games last two weeks,

748
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: Kelvin Harmon. Kevin Harmon, he leapfrogged. In my eyes, he

749
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: leapfrogged both Cropper and Tyron Billy Johnson. As far as

750
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: you had we had those guys as like practice superstars

751
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: and Kelvin Harmon. He was making a player to in practice,

752
00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: but we hadn't seen him in the game, and then

753
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: saw him in the game, We're like, wait a minute.

754
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: So I say that to say I don't have Harmon

755
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: on my fifty three, but I absolutely have him on

756
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Speaker 2: my practice.

757
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 3: Billy Johnson, by the way, seventy five total snaps in

758
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Speaker 3: the preseason, fifteen in game one, twenty three in game two,

759
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Speaker 3: thirty seven in game three.

760
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so wasn't there for me. And then to kind

761
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 5: of go backtrack a little bit with Florina, he wasn't

762
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Speaker 5: there early on in the preseason because of that injury.

763
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Speaker 2: It didn't came in quickly, and he came in quick.

764
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: He looked like a draft pick he had he had

765
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: like it up earlier around a reference first game, and then.

766
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 3: He shook that offing taking their business.

767
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: I agree with you.

768
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 3: I think those six guys that you named, there's no

769
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Speaker 3: reason to play around with it.

770
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 5: Those are your guys.

771
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: You work from it from there. You got some explosion there,

772
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 3: you got some link there. That's the number one thing.

773
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 5: As long as that CD guy comes around, I mean, yeah,

774
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 5: have we seen him around all I've seen him.

775
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: I've been back here watching for him. You're like, he'll

776
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: be little tardy?

777
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 3: Uh running back, Isaiah, real quick? What have you seen

778
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: from the tailback position?

779
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 4: There was more of the conversation that Bill and I

780
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: we're having on air. I mean, you obviously know who

781
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 4: your number one is. Ezekiel Elliott's no question there. Rico

782
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 4: Dald's your number two one. Hunterd Lipkey is on his

783
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: roster obviously, so that's your third guy. Then you really

784
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 4: have to figure out exactly if you're going to carry

785
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 4: a third true running back. Do you want more of

786
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: the same in terms of what you have with Rico

787
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 4: Daldo and Ezekiel Elliott being down here, squoiled, downhill, square shoulders,

788
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 4: guys with not a lot, not a lot of shiftiness

789
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 4: to them. Both possessed ability to block in the backfield,

790
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 4: both possessed ability to get across the night of scrimmage

791
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 4: fall forward. I think that's what you have whenever you

792
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 4: start looking at Royce Freeman. I like Royce Freeman a lot.

793
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 4: I don't think he has a lot of speed per se,

794
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: just like the other two guys don't have a lot

795
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 4: of speed, But he always falls forward and he seems

796
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 4: to be in the right spot, and he blocks well

797
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 4: and all those things. But he again, he possesses the

798
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 4: same characteristics as the first two running backs on your roster.

799
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 4: So then you have to look at Deuce Vaughan and say, okay, well, Deuce,

800
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 4: what do you provide? Well, Duce provides obviously the first

801
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 4: the change of pace, the shiftiness, the ability to create

802
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 4: mismatched nightmares offensively, But what does he provide you on

803
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 4: special teams?

804
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: Not a lot.

805
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 4: You have a cavant turpin who's your return man. But

806
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: you can put you guys back. Okay, you can put

807
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 4: you guys back. But again, but I know what you're about.

808
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: But that's what else blocking as well? What else right

809
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 4: on the punt team he could play possibly personal protector

810
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 4: on the punt return team.

811
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: He's not on punt return now most likely.

812
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 4: On the kickoff on a kickoff team, He's not gonna

813
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 4: be one of your insight you know what I'm saying. So,

814
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 4: like you're putting him in there for the just in case,

815
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 4: and you could do that with any of your skill

816
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 4: position guys at the running back position, the receiver position.

817
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 4: You could put any of those guys in there, right,

818
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 4: So that's where My hesitation comes in terms of Deuce,

819
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 4: and I love Deuce, right, you guys hear the calls.

820
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: I love, I love that what he possesses.

821
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 4: But when it comes to bone fossil, and this is

822
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: a this is a bones fossil decision. These last handful

823
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 4: of roster spots are purely bones FALSI. You'all can say

824
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 4: Mark McCarthy all day long, but Coach McCarthy's gonna say Bones.

825
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: Who you need?

826
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 4: Yep, Right, That's what it comes down to, and Royce

827
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 4: is a special team's warrior.

828
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 2: I have a solution for that. So when it comes

829
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: to Royce, and I love how you laid that out

830
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: because it segues perfectly into my thought process. As far

831
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: as yes, Royce Freeman creates redundancy with three co and

832
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: Ezekiel Elliott one hundred percent agree. So for that reason alone,

833
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 2: I would love to have him on my practice squad

834
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: in the event one of those top two guys fill

835
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: in the blank here, right, I'm superstitious, So that's that's

836
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 2: your insurance on the practice squad. And then also by default,

837
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: it allows me to keep Deuce von, which is the

838
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: change of pace back if Bones and I agree with

839
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: that because we had this conversation where we're It was

840
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: a poolside conversation about he was struggling to get his

841
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,959
Speaker 2: fifty three down, and I said, hey, all right, once

842
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,479
Speaker 2: you get down to like fifty six fifty five pool side,

843
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: now it would be nice, it would have been had

844
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: you joined. But once you get down five, it becomes

845
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: we are so bad. We are so bad. Once you

846
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,959
Speaker 2: get down to fifty six fifty five, maybe even fifty seven,

847
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: now you start hearing that boom, boom boom, and that's

848
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: bone fossils pounding the table, saying hey, guys, don't forget

849
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 2: about me. So to solve that equation, if you will,

850
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: like I'm Mike MCCARTHYEF I'm Brian Schottenheimer. I say, I

851
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: tell you what you give me, deucevaldus my change of

852
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: pace back which allows me to have Royce Freeman as

853
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: my insurance for that redundancy. I'll give you a plus

854
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: one in linebackers, which which which plus one on linebackers?

855
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 2: Do you want free special teams? Do you want Nick Vigil?

856
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: Do you want Willie Harvey? And that's the conversation I

857
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: will have with Bones because he needs his guys, right,

858
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: I think Zimmer would take that. Yeah.

859
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: Absolutely, So he's gonna win as many linebackers as possible

860
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 3: and bones like, okay, that's how many?

861
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 2: How many tight ends are you keeping that?

862
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 5: That's a whole different conversation.

863
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 2: But it directly correlates with which it does. You're keeping

864
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: tight ends? Yeah? Three three three three? Who's your three? Uh?

865
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 5: Of course Ferg John Stevens and then school Maker.

866
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, those are my three. I agree I

867
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 2: have I have as I have a plus one because

868
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: I could see them want shot. No, I'm not thinking

869
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: hinder shot. I'm thinking I'm thinking or Brevin Fan or

870
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: bren and more mostly like I like, I like, I

871
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 2: love fans. But it most likely would be you already

872
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: got true, you already got a full back. He's also

873
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Speaker 2: president is also your best blocking type tight end as well,

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Speaker 2: so you gotta take that into account. But physical is

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Speaker 2: more likely. Here comes the chess match, though, it is

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Speaker 2: more likely that you will be able to able to

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Speaker 2: sneak Princeton Fan through waivers onto the practice squad than

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Speaker 2: a high priority undrafted free agent like Brevern For Bremon,

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Speaker 2: span Ford is not clearing waivers, That's what he's saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: point if you wanted a plus one, if you wanted

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Speaker 2: to go forward tight ends, Brevon span Ford is my

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Speaker 2: plus one, assuming you want to squeeze put the fan

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Speaker 2: onto the practice squad. But I could also see the

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Speaker 2: argument that only carry three because you're going to need

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Speaker 2: a plus ones somewhere else. He would I think he

886
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Speaker 2: would clear waivers. I think he would. I put a

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Speaker 2: bet on I really would.

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Speaker 3: There's had fifteen hundred players had going to be released tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Had he not gotten those completions at the end of

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Speaker 4: the game, I would agree with you who's watching the

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Speaker 4: fourth quarter of a pre scouting departments.

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Speaker 2: You know I'm not I'm not going to look out.

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Speaker 5: This happens every year. How many people something happens every

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Speaker 5: single year?

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Speaker 2: This is He'll be how many people did it take

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Speaker 2: to bring him down?

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Speaker 5: Who who is bounding the thing?

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Speaker 2: I was going to take that bait this year because

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Speaker 2: I remember two years ago, is Malik Davis as a rookie,

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Speaker 2: same thing. Everybody were like me included, he'd no way,

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Speaker 2: you cannot wave him. He's not going to clear waivers,

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Speaker 2: and then he cleared. I say that to say there

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Speaker 2: are always one or two guys who we just swear

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Speaker 2: will not and that's not us. You know the other

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Speaker 2: side of that coin is not us saying oh well,

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Speaker 2: breveronspan form is it for? Is it talented enough, any

907
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Speaker 2: easily clear waivers? It's numbers thing. It's the numbers thing.

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Speaker 2: So you play that game. Burverspan Ford deserves to be

909
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Speaker 2: on the team. I agree, just not over the other

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Speaker 2: three Titans that we named and three Titans again Maker

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Speaker 2: lucas In. So whether you like it or not, lucas In,

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Speaker 2: you can get tight in the chest all you like,

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Speaker 2: but that's their second round, second year two. It's not happening.

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Speaker 2: It's not happening. So whether you like it or not,

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Speaker 2: that's not even that's not even an opinion based take.

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Speaker 2: Luke Schoolmaker is on the team because he's a year

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Speaker 2: two former second round pick. Period.

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Speaker 4: And you can revisit that and asked this question go

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Speaker 4: for I understand your your your position, I understand the

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Speaker 2: What does he provide you on your team? He's a

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Speaker 2: good blocker, he whipped on a couple and.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask a question again. I'm gonna ask a

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Speaker 4: question again, what does he provide you? One When you

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Speaker 4: say bring in Schoonmaker. Let's not get it twisted. He's

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Speaker 4: still this is a fantastic is not a real question.

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Speaker 4: This is a real question when you get to the

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Speaker 4: regular season and you say, hey, I need you in

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Speaker 4: the game. You're bringing something that we don't possess out

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Speaker 4: there or that we drastically need.

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Speaker 2: Haven't found it yet. But he still had But he's

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Speaker 2: still want to make the team. But he's still He's

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Speaker 2: going to make the team. He had his pads.

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Speaker 3: It's going to happen. This is a separate conversation. We're

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Speaker 3: talking roster numbers and he's a part of those.

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Speaker 5: What is the ceiling for schoon Maker? Do you think

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Speaker 5: he's hit A ceilings there?

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Speaker 2: You think he's think he has hit I think he's close.

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Speaker 2: I think he's close. I think he's closer to his

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Speaker 2: than John Stevens Junior. Is anybody else? Anybody else?

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Speaker 5: I think John Stevens is benefiting off of a great

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Speaker 5: preseason last year. Yes, and it necessarily has not all

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Speaker 5: they need.

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Speaker 3: I think he needed to show John Stevens Junior all

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Speaker 3: he needed this show this year, and we've got to

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Speaker 3: take our second break.

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Speaker 2: But we I know, well, short shows Schoonmkers is the

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Speaker 2: least capable tight end in that room.

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Speaker 4: No disrespect in the room as it stands as it stands,

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Speaker 4: aside from Alec Haller.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. All right, let's take our second break.

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Speaker 3: When we come back, we're gonna talk tight ends.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just kidding. We're gonna talk.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna give our preseason superlatives, and we're gonna be

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Speaker 2: It's a song. I'm Kyle Yeomans. It is a song.

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Speaker 2: Chris Beam in the bag. We're gonna get with Dure.

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Speaker 2: You gotta record it.

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Speaker 5: Listen. Preseason is over.

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Speaker 3: We need some preseason superlatives, rookie player of the preseason

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Speaker 3: who stood out the most.

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Speaker 2: We gotta be quick with this.

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Speaker 5: We'll start with you.

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Speaker 2: Man. Oh, it's so I could I want to say

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Speaker 2: guy Am I I want to say Tyler Guyton. I

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Speaker 2: really do. But seeing Cooper BB overcome that last minute

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Speaker 2: deficit between him and brock Hoffman to take presumably what's

1023
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Speaker 2: going to be the starting center role for Week one,

1024
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Speaker 2: Tyler Guyton had already earned that a couple of weeks prior,

1025
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Speaker 2: Cooper BB really put the push on on the back end.

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Speaker 2: So for me, it's it's Cooper Bby. Okay, I knew you.

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Speaker 5: Were gonna say that.

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Speaker 2: No you didn't.

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Speaker 5: I knew you're gonna say I didn't even know I

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Speaker 5: did because I came in here. I came in here

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Speaker 5: asking Kyle for stats for one, but because I had

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Speaker 5: to go with Kayln Carson. Granted he only played in

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Speaker 5: the UH the first LA game, forty snaps I saw

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Speaker 5: the most out of Kaalen Carson, obviously at training camp,

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Speaker 5: obviously on the field at Oxnard. I think because of

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Speaker 5: him just having snaps in that first game, to me,

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Speaker 5: that indicates like, Okay, like, this is a guy. We're

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Speaker 5: gonna see this guy a lot on the field. Obviously

1039
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Speaker 5: now with the injury to Doron Blain, we're gonna see

1040
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Speaker 5: him a lot more, especially in that Browns game, which

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Speaker 5: I'm not looking forward to now because of Mark Cooper on.

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Speaker 2: The other side.

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Speaker 5: However, I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 5: it now because of what we've seen from seat Belt

1045
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Speaker 5: Kaln Carson.

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Speaker 4: Seatbelt well just in the in the I don't know

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Speaker 4: what I was saying, anyways, Yeah, I do like that

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Speaker 4: on me.

1049
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to double up on what you guys said,

1050
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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with Ryan FILLONOI.

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Speaker 4: I think he showed up the last two games, Like

1052
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Speaker 4: I like his mental resilience to be able to bounce

1053
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Speaker 4: back from that first game where he had a couple

1054
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Speaker 4: of dropsies and he was able to now show what

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Speaker 4: he's capable of and show that he's dependable.

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Speaker 3: You you can really give any of the draft picks

1057
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Speaker 3: I think I have done well, which is super needed

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Speaker 3: right now by this team because you didn't have that

1059
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three. You need to take a step

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Speaker 3: forward with this twenty twenty four draft class. Uh, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna give mine to Cooper b B as well, just

1062
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Speaker 3: because it was not good early. The snaps were not

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Speaker 3: good and then Mom, I mean mom, Mom did everything

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Speaker 3: she could to get to that point. But the fact

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Speaker 3: that he took a step from not even being able

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Speaker 3: to snap a football correctly to being the number one option,

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Speaker 3: and it's really not close at this point. We thought

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Speaker 3: it wasn't close, and brock Hoffman was the starter week one,

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Speaker 3: no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: I would be shocked if Cooper BB is.

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Speaker 3: Not the Star Award in week one, So I I do.

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Speaker 3: I like what Cooper BB's done. He's my Rookie of

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Speaker 3: the preseason as well. But all great choices, and I

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Speaker 3: think Marshawn Neeland could be in that conversation.

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Speaker 2: There's other guys. Is a starter. I mean he had

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Speaker 2: his pads off in week three too, So lots of

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Speaker 2: of good from the class.

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Speaker 4: Julius would if you will, could He's been.

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Speaker 2: Fun defensive player of the preseason, Isaiah, go for it,

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Speaker 2: Defensive player of the Precis you gotta give me some

1081
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Speaker 2: heads up, Kyle. I did. It's called a rundown in

1082
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Speaker 2: your text message over the first Josh, First, what you got.

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Speaker 5: What was the what was defensive defensive goodness doesn't have

1084
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Speaker 5: to be rookie, could be.

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Speaker 2: It could be in.

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Speaker 5: You had to play in the preseason.

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Speaker 2: We'll say it that way. Gee about that, so you

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00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: can't say Micah or whatever. Oh my godcheck, I'm going

1089
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: straight to Jordan Phillips. What he was able to do

1090
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: and signing less than forty eight hours before taking the

1091
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: starting snaps starting snaps against the Las Vegas Raiders and played, well,

1092
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: that's nuts to me. He landed in Oxtar, I think

1093
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 2: late Thursday. He didn't really practice, if at all, to

1094
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 2: the point where said, okay, you expect that he's not

1095
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 2: going to play in this game, and there he is

1096
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 2: not only playing, starting, and not only starting, but playing

1097
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 2: well and considering the positional need as far as interior

1098
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: defensive lineman. When you put all of that into that

1099
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 2: bowl of cereal, sprinkle a little bit, marshmallows, I will

1100
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: take that. I've got one too.

1101
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 4: If you can go and go first, Yeah, I'm gonna

1102
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 4: go ahead and go with. It's either it's the top.

1103
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 4: It's toss up between wy Ye and Marquis Bell.

1104
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: For me, both are great.

1105
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Marquis Bell just continued to show what

1106
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 4: he was able to show last year. But just from

1107
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 4: the safety position, he's a he's just a do man

1108
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 4: both ball hawk and he's a he loves putting his

1109
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 4: head in there and getting the tackles. So he's a physical,

1110
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 4: physical player that that you need on your defense.

1111
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: I was gonna say Marquise Bell because he took that

1112
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: step back, he went back to the safety position and

1113
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: he looks comfortable again.

1114
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 2: And he can do he can do linebacker asque things

1115
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 2: when you need it, but only when you need it,

1116
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: only when you don't have to do it all the time.

1117
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 3: And it's so much easier just to be able to

1118
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: work your way around Marquise Bell and use him in

1119
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 3: a couple of different ways.

1120
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: He was my defensive player.

1121
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 5: Going back to what you said earlier, I really liked

1122
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 5: Julius Would this preseason making plays. I think he had

1123
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 5: two total interceptions on the preseason and both were like play.

1124
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 5: He was in the right space at the right time,

1125
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 5: but he read it perfectly. Julius would be mine.

1126
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: The individial for creating the tip drill. Yeah, player, Offensive

1127
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: player of the preseason, Offensive player of the preseason. I'm

1128
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: going to you know what offensive player of the preseason.

1129
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm gonna come away from all offensive lincense.

1130
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: I did Cooper BB. The deuce is loose, baby, Ah,

1131
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 2: I'm going Deuce Vaughan. There were so many question marks

1132
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: attest to this young man coming into this training camp,

1133
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 2: even more so when you see him miss time in

1134
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 2: practice with the hamstring injury. It's so it's like, Okay,

1135
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 2: now he's dealing with injury and he wasn't necessarily productive

1136
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 2: as a rookie. People were saying, you know, don't necessarily

1137
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: see how he makes this team. And then all he

1138
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: does is come back in preseason game number two and

1139
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: he's showing a lot of things and then it's like, okay,

1140
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: well let's see if you can. And before you finish

1141
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: your sentence, he's in preseason finale doing the same thing,

1142
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: showing the shimmy, showing get got Isaiah up in the booth,

1143
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: getting excited. Right, the deuce is loose.

1144
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 5: So from the duce Von, I'm gonna agree, actually, Onduce Von,

1145
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 5: only because when we saw malised Malik Davis, I feel

1146
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 5: like we've seen kind of what we've seen from Malik Davis.

1147
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 5: Feeling the ceiling is there. I don't need to see

1148
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 5: him run the ball again for the Cowboys, I really don't.

1149
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 5: I think there's a spark when Deuce is on the field.

1150
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 5: I would hope after two seasons under two preseasons under

1151
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 5: his belt, the coaches have would take into account when

1152
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 5: it comes to having him on the fifty three. I

1153
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 5: think that's a no brainer. But having him on the

1154
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 5: forty eight, the active forty eight, he needs the ball

1155
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 5: in his hands more than he did last season by far.

1156
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 3: Deuce Vaughan, by the way, last preseason, where there was

1157
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 3: all this excitement and all the buzz around it, less

1158
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 3: than five yards per carry. He had thirteen carries for

1159
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: sixty four yards. He did have two touchdowns, which were important.

1160
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 3: But then this year, whenever you talk about his numbers

1161
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 3: again almost six and a half yards per carry. He

1162
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 3: had fourteen carries for eighty seven yards, just didn't have

1163
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 3: the touchdown. I think if he scores touchdowns and he

1164
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 3: finds his way into the end zone at least once,

1165
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: I think the buzz is just as much for Deuce

1166
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 3: fund to that point.

1167
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: Also, keep in mind he's showing power this season, yes, right,

1168
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: so along with his good things, in the backness, his

1169
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: speed when they make contact with him behind the line

1170
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: of scrimmage, He's shown the ability to push forward and

1171
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 2: turn that into a plus one, sometimes a plus two.

1172
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: He's becoming more well round.

1173
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,240
Speaker 3: My offensive player of the preseason Flinoy at the wide

1174
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 3: receiver position. Nine receptions, sixty one yards. He was a

1175
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 3: leader in both of those categories except for yards.

1176
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: Stevens had a.

1177
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 3: Couple more yards, but he had two touchdowns, and he

1178
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: showed that he can be a red zone weapon for

1179
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 3: this team, which they don't have as much as they

1180
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 3: used to. Of course, they've got CD, they've got Cooks,

1181
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 3: they've got Ferguson, which are top three all around players,

1182
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 3: but Michael Gallup was a guy that you you could

1183
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 3: rely on him in the red zone. Flinoy can do that,

1184
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 3: and I think he showed that through the preseason.

1185
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 4: I'm bucking the system. I'm going with the rushing of

1186
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 4: the offensive line, running attack. The offensive line was moving

1187
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 4: the defensive line back as a unit the entire preseason.

1188
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 4: I felt like head over a five yard average. I'm

1189
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 4: pretty sure around there. So I was proud to see

1190
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 4: that because that's something that we obviously needed to address.

1191
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 4: Those guys who are working in continuity together. It doesn't

1192
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 4: matter who's in the backfield told in that rock, because

1193
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 4: they're going to fall forward.

1194
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: MVP top player overall.

1195
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 5: Killing me number one, I know you gave me. I

1196
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 5: know is incredibly hard. There's a rundown.

1197
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: I'll start.

1198
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 3: We talked about the rookie class, and we talked about

1199
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 3: the need in certain positions, especially.

1200
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 2: After last year. I know where you're going.

1201
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 3: There's a guy by the name of Maris to Leafel

1202
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 3: who did everything and more at the linebacker position in

1203
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 3: the first two preseason games to say, you know what,

1204
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 3: take your pads off, sir, go ahead and take a rest.

1205
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 3: What he did in LA, what he did in Vegas,

1206
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 3: what he did in practice, what he did in the

1207
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 3: joint practices with the Rams. He was all over the field,

1208
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: and I think he's going to be an X factor

1209
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 3: with this defense. He's the second best.

1210
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: Linebacker in that young core. Though.

1211
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 3: Okay, to Marvin overshown is my MVP of the preseason.

1212
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 3: It's because of what he did in practice, showing coming

1213
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,479
Speaker 3: back from an injury and showing the explosiveness. He didn't

1214
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 3: play a ton in the preseason games for a reason.

1215
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 3: Because he's going to be that extra X factor. So

1216
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 3: those two guys I wanted to get props to. The

1217
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 3: linebacker room is completely made over, completely.

1218
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 2: Different than what he used to be. I'm going to

1219
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 2: say to Marvin Overshow, this is a league that offers

1220
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 2: an offensive player of the and then you know MVP,

1221
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,919
Speaker 2: and then splits like that because now I can say

1222
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 2: Cooper BB, and I can say Duzan, and then I

1223
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 2: can go ahead and say Tyler Goyton. Tyler Goyton is

1224
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: my MVP. This is a young man who's coming in

1225
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: at one of, if not arguably the second most important

1226
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 2: position behind quarterback, because you got to protect the blind

1227
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 2: side of this quarterback. Right he's doing it in the heels,

1228
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: in the vapor trail of a hall of a future

1229
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, a future first ballot Hall of Famer.

1230
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: And we were all in agreement that for the most part,

1231
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: you wanted to bring Tyron Smith back at least for

1232
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: one more year. Draft developed the first guy that developed

1233
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 2: this rookie. No time for that. The Cowboys said, bye bye, Tyrant,

1234
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 2: see you when you want to sign your one day

1235
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 2: contractor retire Cowboy. We're gonna go and get this guy,

1236
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 2: Tyler Gotton. All the pressure, what does he do? He

1237
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: takes all off season no ptom Tyler Gotton. He's in

1238
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 2: the lab across the street with our guy, Duke Many,

1239
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 2: whether he's working on his foot, ork, he's working on

1240
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 2: his hands. He comes into training camp and knock SNAr.

1241
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 2: He gets lined up against Michael Parsons, walls him off,

1242
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 2: not once, but twice, to the point where Michael stood

1243
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: there to to his head like, oh, is this what

1244
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 2: we're doing? Fast forward? He did it in the preseason

1245
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: game even though he was only eighty percent because he

1246
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: had missed with practice and it's a missed practice with illness,

1247
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 2: and then he improved time and time again from there.

1248
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 2: So for me, when you look at the development, the

1249
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 2: quickness and the development, how it matches the draft status,

1250
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: first round pick with all the pressure and who he's

1251
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 2: following and not, he's acting as if there is no pressure.

1252
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 2: He's just out there playing to be great. Tyler guy.

1253
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 5: And you say he walls off Michael Parsons, but he

1254
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 5: also does that to Max Crosby.

1255
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 2: Yes, he made Max Crosby chain sides. Yes, that bodes

1256
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 2: very well. And okay, listen, if you're listening, Miles. I'm

1257
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 2: not saying that he's I'm just saying that it bodes

1258
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 2: well for him. But just take it easy, mister Garrett.

1259
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 2: Just take it easy, take it please. Yeah, I'm not

1260
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 2: poking the bear. I'm just saying it's true that guy

1261
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: and is showing some things against Michael Parsons Max Crosby

1262
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: that should give you confidence that a time or two

1263
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 2: he should be able to handle himself against mister Garrett.

1264
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Eric Hendricks simply because of the

1265
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 4: fact that he was flying around in practice and that's

1266
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 4: only sample size that we had. Obviously, I know if

1267
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 4: most of the fans couldn't see flying, he was flying.

1268
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 4: But the fact that he was able to take this

1269
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 4: room that has been totally reconstructed, get these help assists

1270
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 4: in getting these guys all on the same accord, getting

1271
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 4: things communicated to them, being that player coach on the field,

1272
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 4: and making sure this has been one of the most

1273
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 4: productive units in training camp when it was one of

1274
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 4: the biggest question marks going into it.

1275
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 6: I like it.

1276
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 5: I'll be really quick Marquis spell for me. Kyle talked

1277
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 5: about it earlier in that he was taking over going

1278
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 5: back to safety after thanklessly playing linebacker all of last

1279
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 5: season and doing it, you know, pretty well exactly all

1280
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 5: things considered this fact well, going back to safety and

1281
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 5: flying off the screen in the preseason, specifically in the

1282
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 5: preseason game where he's making plays mark spell for me.

1283
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: There you go, MVP's offensive Players of the preseason. Oh, Pops,

1284
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: d Pops got rookies. He's valuable player.

1285
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 5: You could say that.

1286
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 2: I did say that, you could. It's it. I wouldn't.

1287
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.

1288
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 5: I wouldn't go with it. But that's all on you, man.

1289
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 2: Guys. This was fun.

1290
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 3: How about we do this again on Wednesday that, like,

1291
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe like next week.

1292
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: We can start Monday through Friday, like every day every

1293
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: every week, Monday Tuesday, nine am.

1294
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 5: We'll start Tuesday through Friday next week.

1295
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 3: It's a holiday weekend. So other than that, but we're back, baby,

1296
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 3: that's the point of it.

1297
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 2: So we're so back.

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Speaker 3: This has been talking Cowboys for Chris Beam in the back,

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Speaker 3: Patrick no C Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Isaiah stand back

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Speaker 3: with the sunglasses on.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Yoman saying so long from the Star and Frisco.

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