1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Second hour of play and Buck kicks off. I'm sorry, 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: third Hour, Third Hour, Whoo Friday, everybody third hour playing 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Buck kicksoff right now. And I grew up watching action movies. 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Really at the peak. 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: Of the genre, you had. 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger, Bruce Willis really had one great series of action movies. 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't say it was just an action star. 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: He had Mel Gibson Lethal Weapons series, Bruce Willis, the 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: Diehard series. Really at the top though, the pinnacle of 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: it all, although I think for a while in martial 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: arts it was probably Jean Claude van Dam sorry, Steven Seaglfans. 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: By the top, you had Schwarzenegger and Stallone, and those 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: were the big names in the action movie genre. And 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: I think I saw all of their films, and most 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: of them many many times over. And I will tell 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: you this. I used to be I know, I know, 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 1: don't boom me. I used to be more of a 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: in the totality of the body of work, a Schwarzenegger guy. 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: But now now Sylvester Stallone, who's done great stuff too. 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: It was always very close, right, It was always a 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: little bit like you know, Hulk. 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: Versus the Thing or Batman Superman, although really, wouldn't Superman 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: just beat Batman right away? I know he's got like 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: fancy gizmo's in a suit. So Vester Stallone last night 25 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: was at the Trump gala in at mar A Lago 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: for the AFPI, and Stallone had this to say about 27 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: Donald Trump cut thirteen. 28 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: When George Washington defended his country, he had no idea 29 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: that he was going to change the world, because without him, 30 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: you could imagine what the world would look like. Guess 31 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: what we got the second George Washington, he rushes. 32 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: I gotta say, sly Stallone now firmly, firmly planted as 33 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: my all time favorite action movie hero, beating out Schwarzenegger, 34 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: who you. 35 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: Know, had the number of problems. 36 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: Uh, and it definitely got got bad there for him. 37 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: We all you all know what I'm talking about, you know, 38 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: with the maid and everything. But also it became horrible 39 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: during COVID, and that is that is unforgivable to me. 40 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: You want to shut up and be wrong, That's one 41 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: thing as some Hollywood celebrity, But if you're gonna use 42 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: your fame to tell people to basically screw their freedom 43 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: or whatever it is that he said, meaning that you like, 44 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: shouldn't have to wear masks and stay in your in 45 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: your house for months on end because lunatics can't handle reality. 46 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, sl stallone is now number one. I'm just 47 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: saying number one all time, and you can try to 48 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: argue with me on that. But yeah, I think you 49 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: can make a strong argument that Rocky is the greatest 50 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: sports movie of all the original Rocky is the greatest 51 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: sports movie of all time. 52 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: And some of you can argue me on that. 53 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: That's fine. I mean, we were allowed different opinions on 54 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: this one. It's like those of you who say, like 55 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: strawberry ice cream instead of pistachio, which, while it sounds fancy, 56 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: is clearly the superior ice cream flavor. But Trump also 57 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: spoke last night, and here he is at the gala 58 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: announcing Doug Bergham for Secretary of Interior. 59 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: Play it. 60 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 4: We have a big announcement and I won't tell you 61 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: it's I won't tell you the name of his the 62 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: exact name. I think he's an incredible person, got an 63 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 4: unbelievably wonderful wife named Catherine, so I won't tell you. 64 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: His name might be something like Burgham, Burgham. He's from 65 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: North Dakota. He's going to be announced tomorrow for a 66 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 4: very big position. So everybody's waiting there. He is, Hi, Doug, 67 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 4: He's going to be announced tomorrow, and we have somebody 68 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 4: else that's probably coming up with him to be announced 69 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: who's a big one. And we're going to do things 70 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: with energy and with land interior that is going to 71 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 4: be incredible. And so I look forward to doing the 72 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 4: formal announcement, although this is a pretty big announcement right now. 73 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 4: Actually he's going to head the Department of Interior and 74 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 4: he's going to be fantastic. 75 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: Cut of his talk about a Trump weave, he's like, 76 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: we're not going to make the announcement. We're going to 77 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: probably wait until some more people know, and then we're 78 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: going to go forward and we're going to have a 79 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: discussion about the way forward with this fantastic individual. And 80 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: then he goes on to say who it is and 81 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: what the job is that he's kidding that is a 82 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: Trump weave. He's like, I'm not telling you anything, but 83 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: then he's going to tell you everything. But yeah, Doug Berger, 84 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: miss Secretary of the Interior, and or you know, is 85 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: nominated for it. I don't think there's any problem with that. 86 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: I don't think the Democrats are going to lie in 87 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: front of traffic to speak to prevent Bergham from being 88 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: a Secretary of the Interior. So strong, I think it'd 89 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: be good there. Every one of these agencies is going 90 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: to need quite a house cleaning, but we'll see. 91 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty good overall. 92 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: But one other thing that Trump touched on, and it 93 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: also goes to, I think the sense of paralysis that 94 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: some Democrats have right now about what they should do, 95 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: because there really has been a clear sense of a. 96 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: Repudiation. Blowback. 97 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: Maybe that's even a better term for it, blowback on 98 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: the maddest, the craziest of Democrat policies, the most insane things, 99 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: the most damaging things which became mandatory. Remember, for Democrats, 100 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: it's never okay to agree on eighty percent of the agenda, 101 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, when the agenda is set by the Democrat apparatus. 102 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: When the agenda is clear, you have to be on 103 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: board for all of it. Otherwise you are treated in 104 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: religious terms like an apostate, like somebody who was supposed 105 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: to be within, supposed to be trusted, but now must 106 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: be cast aside and punished because you have left the faith, 107 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: the faith of democratism in this case. And this is 108 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: very apparent, I think with something that I truly believe 109 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,559 Speaker 1: a lot of Democrats in public life are not really 110 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: on board for, but they were too scared to say that. 111 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: And that is the gender transition. I don't even like 112 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: that term gender transit. You cannot transition your gender. It's 113 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: not possible. There is no such thing. If it were possible, 114 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: then trans women would be giving birth to kids all. 115 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: The time if they wanted to write. 116 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, if it were possible, you 117 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: would be able to have the same effect. It is 118 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: never the same, Okay, it is not that this transference 119 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: is not a reality. And that's where the fundamental lie 120 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: of all this comes into play. And Trump said specifically 121 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: on the children issue, he said this last night. He 122 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 1: called it child sexual mutilation. Play fifteen and we're. 123 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 4: Gonna stop child sexual mutilation. We're gonna stop it because 124 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: it's time. It's time, it's time, and it's not right. 125 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 4: What's going on, people are It is mutilation and it's 126 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 4: not gonna happen. 127 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: We have to stop it. 128 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 4: We have to get back to a great country with 129 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 4: low taxes. And strong military. We're going to fix our military. 130 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 4: We did it once, now we're gonna have to do 131 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 4: it again. 132 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: I think they are in a tactical retreat on this 133 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: issue of child gender transitions, the mainstream Democrat party, I 134 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: mean the overall organism of the Democrat Party. I think 135 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: they're in a state of some retreat on it. But 136 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: they will come back. And here's why. Their whole philosophy 137 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: around gender identity is that this is rooted in the reality, 138 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: in the truth of who a person is. So it 139 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: cannot be a thing that in their minds. I'm just telling, 140 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm walking you through the mindset. It cannot be a 141 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: thing that, in their minds is either a psychological state 142 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: that can, you know, make you make decisions when you're 143 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: an adult, or become a lifestyle choice of sorts. It 144 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: can't be that, right, It cannot be something that is 145 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: held off until later they want it to be. If 146 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: you think you're trans at ten, it's because you are trans, 147 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: because trans is a innate and I would say immutable, 148 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: But isn't that problematic it's a because that would mean it, right, 149 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: a characteristic about you that you cannot change. But of 150 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: course the whole purpose of it is to change. But 151 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: if the whole purpose of it is to change, then 152 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: you're changing to what? And can you change back from that? 153 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: That's the other. 154 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: Can you de transition? Oh they hate that, they hate 155 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: even the discussion. But if it is possible to detransition, 156 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: then how seriously must transition be taken in the first place? 157 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: You see what I mean? 158 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: This is why it is so important to them that 159 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: children are part of the transagenda. And that means not 160 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: just counseling. It it means puberty blockers, It means surgeries, 161 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: It means things that cannot be undone. Cannot be undone, 162 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: and it is wrong. And Trump sees that. And Trump 163 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: is on solid ground with the American people by an 164 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: overwhelming majority on this one. It is really only about 165 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: twenty percent, maybe even less than that, maybe it's more 166 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: like ten percent of the American people who are so 167 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: brainwashed that they think that giving puberty blocks to a 168 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: twelve year old is a good idea. 169 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 2: Because he says, he's a sheet right. 170 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: And this is where you start to see part. I 171 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: think of the relief from so many different corners of 172 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: America at the Trump victory because it's also a slapdown 173 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: of lies and lies and lies that we have just 174 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: been swamped with in recent years, that the media, with 175 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: all of its power, from all of its platforms, has 176 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: just done everything they can. I mean, I remember I played 177 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: that clip through the guy who's like, no transphobia at 178 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: this table because he said boys can't shouldn't be allowed 179 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: to play in girls sports. No, they're trans girls. And 180 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: the trans girls playing girl sports, well why because if 181 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: they were girls then it would just be girls. 182 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: Right. 183 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: Why do you have to use the modifier trans because 184 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: they're not girls. And we're not all morons, we get it, 185 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: We see what's going on here. So Trump all these 186 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: issues of common sense represents I think a turn back 187 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: towards sanity. And yes that that's going to affect the 188 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: tax policy and the border policy and national security and everything, 189 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: but just operating again in a world where we are 190 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: governed by people that we can look in the eye 191 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: and agree on the basics of reality with is a 192 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: huge improvement, a huge improvement. And I think, you know, people, 193 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: whether it's sliced a loan or many others, a lot 194 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: of those who had been maybe softened, I don't know 195 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: what Sliceloan may have been in Republican his whole life, 196 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: but a lot of these people who have come over, 197 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: like Elon, for example, Elon was building. Elon was busy 198 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: building rockets and changing the world. And so he even 199 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: admits that his politics was his politics were a kind 200 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: of a mild center left technocracy or you know, techno 201 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: futuristic vision. 202 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 2: And now he has red piled. 203 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: He is, he is maga, and he sees exactly what's 204 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: going on, and he knows and this is it's because 205 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: part of the Democrat canon became a rejection of reality 206 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: and that was the all encompassing power that they were 207 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: going for, and they wanted to make all of us 208 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: bend the need to it as well. And it cannot 209 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: be overstated what an important restoration that is for this country. 210 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: It's not that it's over. They will try to bring 211 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: this back. I know that all of our victories, all 212 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: of our victories, are temporary. You have to remember this, 213 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: All these political victories are temporary, and we have to 214 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: keep pushing the country in the right direction. 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Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and 257 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: they do a lot of it. 258 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: With the Sunday Hang Join Clay. 259 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 5: And Buck as they lap it up in the Klay 260 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 5: and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever 261 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 5: you get your podcasts. 262 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in team. 263 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: We're going to be joined by David Harsani here a 264 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: few minutes on his book The Rhymes of Blue a 265 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: Non which I have my copy of it right here, 266 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: and it's fascinating. Actually, the Democrats are actually the party 267 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: of conspiracy theorists, you know that of real conspiracies. 268 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: That's he'll dive into all that. I think you want 269 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: to hear it. 270 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: Remember, you can always send us talkbacks on the iHeart app. 271 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: A lot of fun that way. You don't have to 272 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: worry about the cell phone connection or anything. If you 273 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: call in live, we love taking live callers too, but 274 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: just it's another technology, another way for you to talk 275 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: to us. You download the iHeart app, which I think 276 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: all of you should have the ihet app on your smartphones. 277 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: I use it all the time. You can listen to 278 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: podcasts like Clay and Buck, our whole Clay and Buck network. 279 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: Is there Shooter Dition, Carol Marko, It's Lisa bou Sean 280 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: Parnell and yeah, check that out. And the talkback features 281 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: a little microphone. You press it, you leave us a 282 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: voice basically like a voice message. Remember wh people used 283 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: to have answering machines. You'd be like, you know, and 284 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: you have to like get its. You sounded good on 285 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: the answering machine before every radio it if you're be like, hello, 286 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: you've reached five five five five five five five, leave 287 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: a message. 288 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: Remember we used to all have answering machines. 289 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that it was a kindler, simpler time, 290 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: like the late nineties. You know, if you had a 291 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: cell phone, people thought you were really cool. It's like, oh, 292 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: you have a cell phone. What does it cost? 293 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: Like two dollars a minute? It was like ninety six 294 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: ninety seven. Stuff. 295 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: All Right, we have a talkback here from a Los 296 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: Angeles listener. 297 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: What's his name? I don't know. Listen, this is cut, 298 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: this is bb go play this one. I don't know. 299 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 6: I gotta say, listening to Buck yesterday try to pronounce 300 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 6: some of the NFL players' names was a hoot. I 301 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 6: think we need a weekly segment of Buck doing the 302 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 6: daily picks for NFL. And I just laughed out loud. 303 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 6: I smile a lot during your show. 304 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: Guys. 305 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 6: But that was the funniest segment ever, George Pickles. 306 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: Tell you, guys, so they thought it was funny today too. 307 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: I was doing physical therapy on my kneeks. I hurt 308 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: my knee playing tennis because you know whatever, getting old, 309 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: And they thought that George Pickles thinks pretty funny too. 310 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: I look, look, this is Clay. You threw me under 311 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: the bus with your chicken scratch handwriting. Okay, it looked 312 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: like George Pickles. And I don't know did he did 313 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: George Pickles play? Or is that that Sunday right? 314 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: So you know George Pickles is gonna run for two 315 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 2: hundred and forty yards or whatever it is. I don't know. 316 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: It's up at the website, don't clayanbuck dot com. That's 317 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: where the picks are. I don't even know. 318 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: And yes, George pickends pickends, Yes, I know, I. 319 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: Know it looked like Pickles, though, I gotta I know 320 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: you guys are all taking his side on this one, 321 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: because I should know this. But I'm just telling you, 322 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: I don't think I have watched I don't know if 323 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: I've watched any football this year, honestly, so I'm I'm 324 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: not up on the latest. 325 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: That's putting it mildly. 326 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll talk to David Harsanyi here in just 327 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: a second. I said it earlier this week, and I 328 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: meant it. President Trump has eighteen months to save America. 329 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: One of the most important inities is reducing our national 330 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: debt as quickly as the new Department of Government officially 331 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: efficiency's going to have an impact. 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David, I'm actually 351 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 1: gonna read from the inside jacket here for a second. 352 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: Welcome. 353 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: Of course, A recent poll found nearly twice as many 354 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: Democrats as Republicans believe the Holocaust is a myth. Meanwhile, 355 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: sixty nine percent of Americans who believe that alien spacecraft 356 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: are observing our planet right now are Democrats, a far 357 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: higher number than Republicans. Historically, Democrats are more likely to 358 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: be nine to eleven truthers, despite their law and signs 359 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: declaring science is real. Democrats are twice as likely as 360 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: Republicans to believe in astrology. 361 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: I mean, we keep going down the list. What's going 362 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: on here, mister HARSANYI. 363 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 7: I think that the consensus has always been that the 364 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 7: right is the one that is more prone to disinformation, 365 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 7: But truly the left, and I'll tell you why it's 366 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 7: more dangerous. They take conspiracy theories, They polish them up, 367 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 7: they laundered them through the media. They have experts tell 368 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 7: you which true who are just partisans and they and 369 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 7: so they become much more plausible and much more you know. 370 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 7: So it's just wider spread through the left than on 371 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 7: the right, because on the right, usually conspiracy theorists are 372 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 7: you know, on the fringes. They're not really you know, 373 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 7: mainstreamed in the same way. So I think that it's 374 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 7: just more common on the left because it's you know, 375 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 7: it's just more mainstream through their media, through through media. 376 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 2: Well you mentioned in this one. 377 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned, for example, stealing elections, and Democrats 378 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: always gone And this is something I have to remind 379 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: everybody all the time. 380 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 2: They say Trump doesn't you didn't accept the results of 381 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty election. 382 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, Democrats didn't accept twenty sixteen, didn't accept two thousand. 383 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Democrats have made an art form of denying elections. 384 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, people forget now, or maybe they're too young, But 385 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 7: in two thousand and four there was almost every major 386 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 7: Democrats said there was something wrong with the Ohio voting. 387 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 7: They investigated it. People tried to deny Bush the election. 388 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 7: And remember in the two thousand, people like Michael Moore 389 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 7: complete off the you know, crazy conspiracy theorists made documentaries 390 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 7: that made hundreds of millions of dollars, got standing ovations 391 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 7: at the oscars. That's what I mean by main streams. 392 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 7: I think that, you know, and then when they're debunked, 393 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 7: like let's say the Russia collusion, hope they just move 394 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 7: on to the next thing. No one, no one ever 395 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 7: pays a price, no one's called the conspiracy theorist. No 396 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 7: one lose a job, No one loses a job. 397 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: What was the wackiest when you're doing your research for this, 398 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: what was the wackiest thing that you saw coming out 399 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: as a conspiracy theory that a good number of Democrats 400 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: really bought into? 401 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 7: Well, I mean over in two thousand and six, I 402 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 7: think it was it was a poll that showed that 403 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 7: over fifty percent of Democrats thought George Bush knew that 404 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 7: nine to eleven was going to happen and let it 405 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 7: happen for personal benefit. But the worst one, I think 406 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 7: is in twenty eighteen, when I forget the exact number, 407 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 7: but something like fifty eight percent of Democrats believed that 408 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 7: the Russians that had just sent some Facebook ads, but 409 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 7: that they had messed with the vote tallies and stolen 410 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 7: the election. And this is a you know, that's a 411 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 7: massive number of people who believed something that there was 412 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 7: never any evidence for that even the conspiracy theorists weren't 413 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 7: sam it's true. They had gone, you know, past that 414 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 7: because they had been involved in this mass hysteria. So 415 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 7: I think that's the craziest thing that they've believed, and 416 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 7: it just happened a few years ago. 417 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: Well, you know, one thing, David and I we're speaking 418 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: to David Harsani. His book is The Rise of Blue Anon, 419 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: How the Democrats became a party of conspiracy theories. Well, 420 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: one thing that to me at least sounds like it 421 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: could be a part of this. I just got my copy, 422 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna have to get in and dive dive 423 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: into this and read over the weekend. 424 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: David. 425 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: So you may deal with this in some detail in 426 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: the book, but to me, it seems like part of 427 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: it is if a conspiracy hurts Republicans, it doesn't matter 428 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 1: at all whether it's true or not. So even people 429 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: who aren't expected to truly believe it, aren't expected to 430 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: go along with it. Because so many of these conspiracies 431 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: just become political cudgels. 432 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 7: Of course, the New York Times will give a hearing 433 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 7: to any conspiracy theorists on the left. I write about 434 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 7: this last year or yeah, last year, the New York 435 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 7: Times ran a huge, long story about this guy who 436 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 7: says that Regan Reagan had made a deal with the 437 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 7: Iranians to not release the hostages so that he could 438 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 7: win the election in nineteen to eighty. I mean, there's 439 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 7: no there's zero evidence or something like that, but they'll 440 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 7: publish it. And that's just, you know, kind of a 441 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 7: revisionist conspiracy theory. But obviously they'll publish anything here now 442 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 7: as well. But I just clearly want to say that 443 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 7: it's not just conspiracy theories. It's also paranoia. I'll give 444 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 7: you the worst, one of the most pernicious ones, telling 445 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 7: African American voters that they're being stripped of the right 446 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 7: to vote, that there's voter suppression, when it is easier 447 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 7: to vote than it's ever been in the history of 448 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 7: mankind anywhere. But yet people believe sixty something percent of 449 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 7: Black people believe that there's a systemic, systemic, you know, 450 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 7: effort underway to not let them vote, or that they 451 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 7: believe that white cops are going around hunting black people 452 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 7: to kill young black men. I mean that makes them 453 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 7: feel like they're in a country that hates them, that 454 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 7: they don't have agency. And I'm not saying they aren't racists. 455 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 7: Of course they are racist, But that's a paranoia that 456 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 7: has taken hold that know, that is simply easily debunked 457 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 7: by by factual evidence. 458 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: What do we do about this phenomenon? It does feel 459 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: like at some level, David, the election results are a 460 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: major pushback, at a minimum to some of the craziest 461 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: beliefs of the left. But is it just the loosening 462 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: of their controls over the information ecosystem as in now 463 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: that X to the degree that you know, everyone can 464 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: see seems to be willing to at least allow people 465 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: to say mean things about Democrats or things Democrats don't 466 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: once said, they don't have the same stranglehold them and 467 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: the others talk radiother's Fox News in ways, but online 468 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: it seems to be like it seems to be loosening 469 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: up a bit. Is that one way? What are the 470 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: how do we deal with this? Like, how do we 471 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 1: handle this so that people, stop stop believing crazy stuff. 472 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 7: We're in a weird spot now because it's clear that 473 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 7: this election made it clear that people aren't listening to 474 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 7: what the media is telling them. They were engaged in 475 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 7: a paranoid style of politics, saying that Trump was hitler, 476 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 7: that you were semi fascists and all of that, and 477 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 7: the Handmaid's Tales stuff and all of that, so no 478 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 7: one was really listening. Obviously, every ethnic group, all kinds 479 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 7: of moves moved towards Trump. But I think it was 480 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 7: a very normy election. People wanted some normalcy. But now 481 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 7: we don't really have any you know, we don't trust 482 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 7: any institution. I don't mean we trust any big institution. 483 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 7: So we have to Someone has to build up places 484 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 7: that can be trusted again. I don't you know. And 485 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 7: I think yes, it's going to be great to dunk 486 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 7: on libs and put people in positions that dunk on lives. 487 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 7: I'm not against that, but you also need confident people 488 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 7: who are going to make us or allow us to trust, 489 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 7: you know, HHS. So we're going to allow us to 490 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 7: trust the Justice Department. I think it's important if you 491 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 7: care about this stuff, that you have institutions that you 492 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 7: could trust. 493 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: And I'm wondering also about some of these media outlets, 494 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, Jeff Bezos. It was fascinating they got so 495 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: freaked out of the Washington Post because Bezos said, you're 496 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: not allowed to endorse in this election cycle, as. 497 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: If first of all, the endorsement doesn't matter. 498 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: Second of all, we all know who the Washington Post 499 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: would endorse if they could endorse. But if you were 500 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: to take a step back and say, I want this 501 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: paper to function at least non hysterically, maybe that's a way. 502 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: I could put it. It wouldn't be that hard. 503 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,479 Speaker 1: You know, these papers have the Ombudsman position, right, I mean, 504 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: they have supposedly some kind of internal checks and balances, 505 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: and then they haven't been functioning. But I'm saying theoretically 506 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: you could create them. I mean, all you need is 507 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: somebody on the Washington Post, you know, in the newsroom 508 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: whose job is to oversee the politicization of the front 509 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: page from a conservative perspective. And I feel like you 510 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: could start to rain some of this stuff in Or 511 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: is it just impossible? Is that just there's no market 512 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 1: for that anymore? I mean, how do you see it? 513 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 7: I think you need to fire most people, it's not 514 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 7: it's not the editorial page. It's really the problem that 515 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 7: these don't get me wrong, they could be better and 516 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 7: all that. It's the reporters. It's the stray reporters that 517 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 7: are the problem. And the culture in these places you'd 518 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 7: have to finish, you have to fix it completely, because 519 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 7: think about the kids who are coming out of journalism 520 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 7: school now. They're all just you know, they're not prepared 521 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 7: to see other opinions in the paper. When when when 522 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 7: when they don't endorse, the whole paper melts down. When 523 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 7: the New York Times puts the Tom Cotton op ed up, 524 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 7: the editorial assistance will revolt and get the uh, get 525 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 7: the get the editor of the op ed page fire. 526 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 7: So I think there really needs to be a culture change, 527 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 7: and that takes a long time. I'm not saying they're 528 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 7: on good journalists around, but the incentives are not to 529 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 7: reward them, because who gets rewarded. If you're anti Trump 530 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 7: you get a million followers on Twitter. If you're being 531 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 7: an unbiased reporter and do good work, no one pays 532 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 7: attention to you. So until those incentives are changed, I'm 533 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 7: not sure that it's going to get much better. 534 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: I think that's absolutely true. 535 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: We've got the book here, The Rise of Blue and 536 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: On David Harstani, the author. Go get your copy and 537 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: look for David's columns The Washington Examiner. 538 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 2: David, great to talk to you as always. Thanks for 539 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: making the. 540 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 7: Time you two, thanks for having me. 541 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: All Right, my fellow gun owners, you know what I'm 542 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: doing this weekend range day tomorrow, it's coming up, getting 543 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: ready for it, and I'm gonna be out there with 544 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: my Bear Creek Arsenal pistol and rifle pistols and rifles. Actually, 545 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: they make a hang them that I'll have with me 546 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: called the Grizzly. It's a nine millimeter now a lot 547 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: of ways this is. This reminds me of some of 548 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: the very well known side arms I used to train 549 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: with back in the CIA days. But the Grizzly has 550 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: got some great changes, some additions to it as well. 551 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: And you've got upgrades like an R and R optic cut, 552 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: improved grip texture, and metal sites. So it feels really 553 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: good in your hands. And here's the thing. The price 554 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 1: point is less than you'd expect a lot of premium 555 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: handguns out there, you know, five hundred bucks six hundred bucks. 556 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: You can get a Grizzly from Barcreek Arsenal for two 557 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety five dollars on Barcreek arsenal dot com. 558 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: Right now, this thing is very accurate. I'll put up 559 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: a video to me of me over the weekend shooting this. 560 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm shooting it. I was shooting it recently with steel 561 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: sites at you know, like twenty yards, and some people are. 562 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: Like, I could shoot the flies off a wing at that. 563 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 1: This is, you know, everybody, all of a sudden's a marksman. 564 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: Whenever the buckster puts up a shooting video, it's amazing. 565 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: Everybody's got perfect for him. Everybody can hit a bullseye 566 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: at you know, three hundred yards with their with their 567 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: weak hand and their eyes closed, like all right, fair enough, 568 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: whatever point is. Bear Creek Arsenal makes amazing rifles pistols. 569 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: Go check out what they have on the website. And 570 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: I think this is really important too, because it is 571 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: not true about all the firearms companies out there. And 572 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to name names. Maybe maybe one day 573 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: I'll have to, but some of them they want to 574 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: sell guns, but they don't want to talk about it, right. 575 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: They don't want to be too prominent there, oh, because 576 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: they don't want, you know, especially under Democrat administration. There's 577 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: scared of what the Democrats may think. Bear Creek Arsenal 578 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: loves what they do. Want to put the best farms 579 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: in your hands at the lowest possible prices, and they 580 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: stand with the Second Amendment. They believe in the gun 581 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: rights community. They believe in your Second Amendment. So stand 582 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: with Bear Creek Arsenal. Get yourself a great pistol rifle 583 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: from them and you'll experience your new favorite handgunner rifle. 584 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: Go to Bear Creek Arsenal dot com. That's Bear Creekarsenal 585 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: dot com. 586 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 5: Looking forward to the holidays, but trading on Tethel's political pecking. 587 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: You need Turkey Talk a limited edition episode in the 588 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: Klay and Buck podcast feed on November seventeenth. 589 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: I can't believe it's already here. 590 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: We're closing up shop for this day, Friday, November fifteenth, 591 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: on Clay and Buck. 592 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: Clay is going to be back on Monday. I'm sure 593 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: he will have a lot to share with you in 594 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: the world of sports. 595 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: Politics, everything else. The sports ball commentary will be much 596 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: better upon his return. There will not be any talk 597 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: about George Pickles skill on the football field. 598 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: So looking forward to having Clay back. 599 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: And I want to also tell you to please subscribe 600 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: to Clay and Buck podcast network, The Buck Brief, which 601 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: is a little additional show, sometimes interviews, sometimes just monologues. 602 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: I do goes in there. 603 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: We've also got Carol Mark with Tudor Dixon, Sean Parnell, 604 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: great great host Mary Catherine Ham, so yeah, please do 605 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: check it out. We've also got talkback clips here. This 606 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: is AA podcast listener James in New Mexico wants to 607 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: weigh in on a growing controversy. 608 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: Go ahead, the beautiful Mountains of New Mexico. 609 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 8: And I want to respond to Jesse Kelly in that 610 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 8: asinine statement he made about nuts and dessert. I just 611 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 8: want to remind him of the most glorious dessert mankind 612 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 8: ever invented and announced. 613 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 6: But con pie. 614 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 8: So shut up about the nuts. 615 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 4: Jesse. 616 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 8: By the way, that does not absolve you of the 617 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 8: crimbl ay thing. I'm gonna take away your man card. 618 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: I mean, oh, oh, I'm sorry. 619 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that my wife has the skills of like 620 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: a Michelin pastry chef. 621 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 2: You know what, I mean, like, you know what I mean, 622 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: what's with all this? 623 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: Oh the pistachio Kremberley, It's delicious, It's a celebration. 624 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: I had an American flag in the background with it. 625 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying some of you guys acting like, oh 626 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: fancy French Kremberle, you love krember None of you who are, 627 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: including Jesse Kelly. 628 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: I want Jesse Kelly right here. 629 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: If that guy tastes pistachio crem brewlay, he's gonna get 630 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: on the team. He's gonna get on the team. And 631 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to just be that. We give this 632 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: to him like at Red Lobster or something. I'll find 633 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: a way. We'll get Jesse Kelly to taste test pistachio 634 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: crem breulet, and all of a sudden he'll start speaking 635 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: French and say that this is the most delicious thing 636 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: he's had in a long time. Pemberley is amazing. It's 637 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: basically just cream and sugar. Okay, who doesn't like that? 638 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: It's a dessert. I get it's not good. All the time, 639 00:32:59,120 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to. 640 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: You know, trying to trim down, trying to get the 641 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: gym a little bit more, trying to do all those 642 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 2: good things these days. 643 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, I would not advise Crimberlay every night before 644 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: you go to bed unless you are looking to, you know, 645 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: play the penguin in an upcoming movie like Colin fair Well, Colin. 646 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: Ferrell does it all with prosthesis or whatever. 647 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, you got you guys are being harsh on 648 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: the pistasue Crimberlay. I will say, I'm very proud of 649 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: this audience that when I when I call out pistachio 650 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: ice cream, you know, pistashie ice cream is amazing. We 651 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: don't have to you know what I mean, We don't 652 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: have to pretend here. Yes, I like, basically all ice 653 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: cream tastes good, but pistachio is a superior flavor. 654 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: And uh, there you have it. 655 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: We also have Dave in Ohio has an idea for 656 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: us on the live lines here. 657 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: What's up, Dave? 658 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 5: Yes, sir, mister buck you had said last week, Hey, 659 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 5: we got to come up with a new name for 660 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 5: mainstream media because they're obviously not mainstream anymore, and I've 661 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 5: heard legacy kicked around. I'd like to suggest two things. 662 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 5: One call them the left stream media l e ft 663 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 5: stream media. I think that's dignity or dignified enough without 664 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 5: calling them the lousy comedy media. So we'll just go 665 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 5: left stream. But I'd like to suggest also a big 666 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 5: national contest on your show. Invite all your listeners send 667 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 5: in their suggestions on what we should call the now 668 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 5: defunk mainstream media, and then maybe get it down there 669 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 5: down to ten and then pick a winner and maybe 670 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 5: announce it on I don't know, January sixth, January twentieth, 671 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 5: something like that. 672 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 2: All right. 673 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: I like the idea thank you play has some idea 674 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: about whoever says the fun like writes us or says 675 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: the funniest comment. 676 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 2: Or something each week. I'll let him introduce that to 677 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: you next week. 678 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: But I think it's a good idea because we love 679 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 1: laughing about stuff and that's always a fun part of 680 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: what we get to do here. But yeah, he'll he'll 681 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,479 Speaker 1: introduce that to you. Look, it's it's it's a good time, 682 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: my friend. And you know, Trump's got his team coming together, 683 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: still basking in the glow of the huge victory. It's 684 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: fallen a lot of places, the leaves have changed. It's 685 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: very pretty outside down here in Florida. Wis just perfect weather. Sorry, 686 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: it's just the way it is. Go have a great weekend. 687 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: That would be my Those are your orders. Go have 688 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: a great weekend. Catch up on some Clay and Buck 689 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: podcasts if you miss them, And Monday, Cley will be 690 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: back here with me and we'll do the best radio 691 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: show out there. 692 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: Talk to you then,