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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: I WISO live on a Monday edition of Cleveland Browns Daily.

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Speaker 2: I am merely Bo. He is the great Z. I

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Speaker 2: hear you. I heard you say, yeah, I don't hear you. Now,

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Speaker 2: I hear you. Now, Hey, now give back?

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Speaker 3: Hey, give it, hey, microphone guy, let's scream into it.

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Speaker 3: Give me a good level. Wait a second, or just

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Speaker 3: keep here we go.

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Speaker 4: Way to start a Monday, A way to start all right,

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Speaker 4: just as you're an impartial party.

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Speaker 2: Here, tell what just happened right there. I don't under attack. Listen,

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Speaker 2: I love you both.

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Speaker 3: Give a.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that in this one you could blame

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Speaker 4: him last week if he lates to the start of

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Speaker 4: the show.

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Speaker 3: I was pretty impressed. I had I had very little

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Speaker 3: confidence that you were going to make it because I

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Speaker 3: knew you still had to go upstairs and then you

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Speaker 3: still had to come out, and you were eating with luminaries,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, I can't interrupt this. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to give you a five minue warning. I didn't see

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Speaker 3: you run.

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Speaker 2: Oh I ran. He huffed it over.

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Speaker 3: So that's what what I'm saying is, I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Sure I read. I hustled for you.

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Speaker 3: Give I appreciate that, but you can't get on the

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Speaker 3: mic and just start yelling.

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Speaker 4: Well no, he whispered first and said I can't hear him.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't hear anything in my ear, couldn't hear me.

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Speaker 2: And that's what turns.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what.

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Speaker 2: And then I was yelled at, yelled at. I was besmirched.

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Speaker 2: What did I miss? What's been going on? Miss a little?

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Speaker 2: Miss a lot? Dude? Is anything happened since last Wednesday?

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Speaker 2: Where do you want to start? Yeah, let's do this.

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Speaker 2: Let's do this one thing real quick.

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Speaker 4: Though I like it, nobody no show has been harder

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Speaker 4: on the climate of this state than this show.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 4: We have held feet to the fire on climate for

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Speaker 4: what has been I think the worst climate year in

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Speaker 4: Northeast Ohio history, certainly since I've lived in Ohio.

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Speaker 2: This has been the worst most rain, followed by the

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Speaker 2: most humidity in high seat.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I got theories about water and I don't

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Speaker 4: know about steam.

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Speaker 2: My electrical bill this month, Oh baby, their conditioning doesn't

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Speaker 2: come cheap.

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Speaker 4: Rocket ship. I was like, wait, what come again? The

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Speaker 4: last few days have been unbelievable, fantastic, no humidity, no perfect.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's just like a cheat code.

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Speaker 2: You gotta call it like you see it. So good job.

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Speaker 2: Some pool days over the weekend, got a little golf chase,

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Speaker 2: a small ball around. Good for you. Yeah, it was great, fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Lukea is now four of the last five nights. Oh

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Speaker 2: that's new since since we've been together, because it would

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Speaker 2: have been yeah, for the last five nights, he's going

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Speaker 2: about eight to six.

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Speaker 4: Come on, yeah, what a champion is miss k like

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Speaker 4: aware of how No, not in a billion that is

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Speaker 4: that age to go eight to six? No straight through? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And by the way, and then champions champion statue Nanas

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Speaker 2: this is a real night's sleep.

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Speaker 4: This is pretty glamorous setup you got over there with

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Speaker 4: young Lucas life.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I feel very I'm as rested

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Speaker 4: Day of lucatime of lucatime. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's had some he's been on some uh some adventures.

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Speaker 2: Obviously you saw him Wednesday, who was out here on Wednesday?

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Speaker 2: Everything, and how's how have you been? Obviously have missed

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Speaker 2: Columbus was good, good good town.

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Speaker 4: They truly, I mean they're running it's an NFL training camp,

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Speaker 4: and they profit off of it, and they treat it

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Speaker 4: the way an NFL team does. And it's weird that

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Speaker 4: there's nobody else in college football that's doing it that way,

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Speaker 4: because I feel like a lot of them could.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 2: I heard somebody's running their program like an NFL team,

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Speaker 2: doing things that nobody had ever heard of before. So

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Speaker 2: wasn't exclusive enough for us, said, anybody could have gotten there,

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Speaker 2: bought their way in there. That's not good enough for us. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I see, he's got a higher standard. I just did.

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Speaker 4: Would have thought he would want to be he would

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Speaker 4: want to see, you know, the two quarterbacks with his

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Speaker 2: Weeks he knows, he knows already that is he says,

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Speaker 3: You mean him showing his new ink off to the coach.

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Speaker 2: Well, he did that, but no, there's no quarterback competition.

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Speaker 2: That's what he says.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, the one thing that you know does

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Speaker 4: on a franchise quarterback, the amount of there's so many

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Speaker 4: and all of it convert and then juxtaposed to what's

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Speaker 4: One was the number one quarterback in the country. It's

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Speaker 4: The other one is was the National Gatorade Athlete of

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Speaker 4: so it's like I'm sitting here watching and it was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: the quarterback, I'm like, you're fine, Yeah, no matter what,

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Speaker 4: is obviously gets to what I think I probably I mean,

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Speaker 4: and had it was very well locked into what was happening.

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Speaker 4: But like, there are so many things that go into

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Speaker 4: you do all of that, sometimes it doesn't work. But

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Speaker 4: that's that's the thing that jumps out, is there.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, if if if the NFL

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Speaker 2: were set up, whereas basically, if it's a good program,

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Speaker 2: that helps a lot, but also if you have somebody

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Speaker 2: who's willing to write the biggest check, oh yeah, to

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Speaker 2: get the quarterback, we'd have you'd be we'd have we'd

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Speaker 4: You did the best the best attempt at that that

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Speaker 4: No college football is it's there is no no, there

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Speaker 4: ever been of everybody to the middle right. College football

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Speaker 4: is a class system. It's much more like European soccer. Yes,

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Speaker 4: quite honestly, the same ten teams that are good now,

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Speaker 4: Mostly it's all teams that were good fifty.

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Speaker 2: Years, always had they've had flirtation, they've had periods of

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Speaker 4: So it wasn't until it was Rich Brooks Bollotti and

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Speaker 2: And that flipped and they were and they are money.

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Speaker 4: Mitch, that's right, money, the great money, Mitch money, Mitch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So a great duck.

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Speaker 4: Then, as you're we're going to Carolina this week, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Schadore with the arm soreness on Saturday, he'll he'll, he'll

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Speaker 2: I know we'll see Dylan Gabriel. Yeah, beyond that, I

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Speaker 2: can't see in the game much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And

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Speaker 2: I know we'll see Dylan Gabriel, who's struggled, yes of

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Speaker 2: not participating in team drill. So on Saturday with Chador

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Speaker 2: four to three for fourteen. And again, those quarterback trackers

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Speaker 2: and the stats do not tell a story. Doesn't tell

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Speaker 2: situation is, all of those things. But directionally speaking, fourteen

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Speaker 2: of circumstance. So he's got I think, is a big

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Speaker 2: week for him. Clearly he is. He is for everything

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Speaker 2: that happens off the field. He is beloved. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: do it between the white lines. And so we'll see

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Speaker 2: if there's anything today with shador back. I will see

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Speaker 2: how much Kenny Pickett's able to do. But you know,

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Speaker 2: this is a team right now that all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: it's getting late early. I know it's only August fourth,

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Speaker 2: but we're you know, just over a month away. Well

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Speaker 2: season opener. Is that right? That feels right? For me, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because it's a Sunday. Yeah, that feels right like it's

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Speaker 2: maybe you only if it's Flacco. I guess if Flacco

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Speaker 2: ends up starting week one, you could make that decision

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Speaker 2: I really think they're gonna need, like you want to

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Speaker 2: Rams game, and that's this week and next week in Philly.

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Speaker 4: This is just you and I talk on this and scores.

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Speaker 4: How could it be anything other than Flacco or pick it.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe it.

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Speaker 4: But there's no way Gabriel could start. It's just too

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Speaker 4: So the other thing that's going to be a part

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Speaker 4: But then he also has to preduce in these joint

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Speaker 2: we do quote unquote play starters, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: subset of.

434
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Speaker 4: Starters twenty one, no, seventy five, No, you know yeah,

435
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Speaker 4: I mean like none of those guys. You just we

436
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 4: we have gotten way, we got we got really thin

437
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 4: in a lot of spots and we can't risk anything.

438
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 2: No, and we're what's become apparent throughout this camp is

439
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 2: and everybody. It's true of everybody in the NFL. So

440
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 2: it's not just a Browns issue. But we're really thinnick

441
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: at left tackle, right tackle, depth, tackle depth, real thin there.

442
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 2: We're pretty darn thin in terms of what would be

443
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Speaker 2: considered top flight talent. At the wide receiver position. We're

444
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: very thin without Judkins here, at running back. We are

445
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 2: now very thin at cornerback. We are thin at linebacker.

446
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 2: So some of those you expected, some of those you

447
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: did not expect. But that's kind of the reality of

448
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 2: where this thing is. And you know, we can go

449
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 2: through it at some point today as we kind of

450
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: get ready for this is our first game week. But

451
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 2: where this roster kind of stands and what it looks like,

452
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 2: you know, there are only so many jobs that I

453
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 2: even think are open, and there are only so many

454
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Speaker 2: kind of roster permutations that can allow people to win

455
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 2: those jobs, because it's all it's a numbers game.

456
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Speaker 4: It's a numbers game. Yeah, the Shador side of things,

457
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 4: we mentioned this. He had the arm soortus on Saturday.

458
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 4: He'll be back full go today. Today's a padded practice.

459
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 4: See the guys with the pads out here and they're

460
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Speaker 4: ready to go. To give you an idea of what

461
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 4: the rest of the week looks like, there's gonna be

462
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 4: workout meetings tomorrow, and then tomorrow afternoon, I'm guessing you

463
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 4: guys will fly to Charlotte.

464
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: Then joint practice.

465
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 4: Is Wednesday down there with the Panthers on Wednesday morning,

466
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 4: and then Thursday you'll do the walk through and then

467
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 4: Friday you will play the game. So that's kind of

468
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 4: the business of the week. To Z's point, it is

469
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 4: a game week now, and these preseason games for all

470
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Speaker 4: of the things that we are talking about in terms

471
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 4: of how quickly some of these spots have gotten thin

472
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 4: on this roster, these preseason games are going to be

473
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Speaker 4: critical and I think wildly entertaining at the quarterback spot.

474
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 4: I hope you and I talked about it. I would

475
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 4: love to just see Dylan and Shadoor do it all.

476
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 4: Like you know, I'm sure Kenny wants to play, but

477
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 4: like if you want him to play week one, how

478
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Speaker 4: important is it for him to play against Carolina on

479
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 4: a Friday. But I want to see Dylan and chadur

480
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 4: play like, let's see what where we're at with those

481
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 4: two guys. And then at the bottom you mentioned the

482
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 4: receiver room and how thin that got in terms of

483
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 4: top flight talent. Can some of these guys who have

484
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 4: been camp darlings make plays in those in those scrimmages,

485
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 4: in those joint practices, and then even more even on

486
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 4: a bigger stage for all you to see.

487
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Speaker 2: Can they do it on a Friday night? The guys

488
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Speaker 2: you really want to see, you know, Gauge Larvadan and

489
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 2: Luke Florida. Can they continue what they've shown here when

490
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: we take this on the road, when we play real

491
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 2: football games. That's what people are gonna want to see.

492
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: Can Jamari Thrash, who's had a nice camp, can he

493
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,479
Speaker 2: continue that progress that we've seen. Deontay Johnson has been

494
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: quite frankly, easily one of the best receivers in this camp.

495
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Speaker 3: Easily?

496
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 2: Yeah? Does that continue? Because if so, you know, I

497
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: think he's your pencilman easier two yeah, two three? He

498
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 2: and center Tillman. You know, you know you have your

499
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: your top three right there. Al with Jerry Judy. The

500
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 2: Browns obviously know that the tackle his position has been

501
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: an issue, they claimed Friday after the show. They claimed

502
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 2: Sebastian Goodierras from Waivers from San Francisco six five three

503
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: eight officially in his first NFL season out of me

504
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Speaker 2: not state, not state. It's in North Dakota.

505
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

506
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's n C mining the NAI not state, not state,

507
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 4: North Dakota.

508
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Last year saw actually one game with the Niners.

509
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: Spent time on the Browns practice squad.

510
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 3: How about this, I'm pretty sure that guy took the

511
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: red eye after we claimed him and practiced. They literally

512
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 3: walked him right out onto the field Saturday in the

513
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 3: middle of practice and we're like, all right, you're with

514
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Speaker 3: the line.

515
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Speaker 5: Go wow.

516
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Speaker 2: The Browns, by the way, also claimed this morning. Killian Zire,

517
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: who is six seven three twelve in his second NFL

518
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: season out of AUB Originally signed by Houston's an undrafted

519
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: free agent, spent last season on the Texas practice squad

520
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: as part of the International Player Pathway program. A native

521
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: of Munich, Germy, so the Hoff maybe they've they crossed

522
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 2: paths over there in Munich when the hof was there.

523
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: I feel like they would have, right. Yeah, speaking of

524
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: the hof Is, certainly he's in the he's in the building.

525
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: But so the Browns now have ten tackles here, wow,

526
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 2: if I have that right, and.

527
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Speaker 4: I believe, well, yeah, that they're not happy that tackles

528
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 4: are beyond that though. The other thing that's in this

529
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 4: we you and I talked about this after the draft.

530
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Speaker 4: We didn't draft a wide receiver or a tack or

531
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Speaker 4: a tackle, and those are if before the draft I

532
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Speaker 4: would have thought, yeah, you're gonna you could take a

533
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Speaker 4: tackle in the second. You thought maybe take a tackle

534
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 4: in the second is if you know, like does a

535
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 4: is a wide receiver in the second?

536
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? And we didn't address any either

537
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: of that.

538
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 4: And you know, the graand pick you get because you know,

539
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 4: he was viewed as one of the four best players

540
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 4: in this draft, regardless of position, and they loved him.

541
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: So that's cool.

542
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 4: But then and we love Sweessinger now, but you know

543
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Speaker 4: Swessinger has picked thirty three. Then Judkins is thirty six,

544
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 4: and so you didn't take a tackle, you did not

545
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 4: take a wide receiver. And those spots are very thin.

546
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: They are, and that's what's really kind of unfortunate about

547
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: this situation. And you know it's I mean, when we

548
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: were doing all those draft shows, it was like, let's

549
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: use our first five picks all on offense. Right here

550
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: it is, and now you did you but after you

551
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: went five straight on offense, after you went the two

552
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: on defense. And it turns out, Listen, Carson Sweeshner has

553
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: been a start of this camp. Harold Fan's been a

554
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: start of this camp. These rookies are going to play

555
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 2: significant roles and they're gonna have to that's just the

556
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: bottom line. They are going to have.

557
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 5: To do that.

558
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 2: It's a it's a tough Yeah, that's where you why

559
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: you wend up thin Now, if you view it through

560
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: the prism as I think that many talk to people

561
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: around here, are that we're going to play a lot

562
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: of toll personnel that they think Harold Fannon can count

563
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 2: kind of both. It can be he can be a

564
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: big slot receiver for you and he also is a tackle.

565
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: Then you know, that's a better situation. We see Kenny

566
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: Pickett coming out here right now and he is in

567
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: full pads. He looks ready to go. Hopefully he's ready

568
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 2: to go. That would certainly be a good thing for

569
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns. But yeah, that's kind of where you

570
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: end up. You can't do everything in one draft, which

571
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: we know, we're well aware of that, but this was

572
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 2: one where you thought, maybe those are positions that would

573
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: be addressed. And obviously if you stayed there and you

574
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: took Travis Hunter, that addresses one of those positions very well. Ultimately,

575
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: it's Mason Graham plus a first and a second that

576
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: was quinch On Judkins. Yeah, we'll see how that plays up.

577
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: But Mason Graham has been excellent so far. There's been

578
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: no questioning on that. It's just, yeah, you end up

579
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: a little bit unfortunately thin at some spots, and some

580
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 2: things have happened that have made it, you know, added

581
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: to it. I think since we since we last were

582
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: on the air as well, did did I read did

583
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: Amari retire? Did I read that? Or is that was

584
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: that fake news?

585
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: That was fake news?

586
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: Fake? Yes?

587
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: I saw that.

588
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: Ye, it's so hard. He's not on a team, so no,

589
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: that means you're retired. But yeah, it's it's there are

590
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: receivers out there. I know Keenan Allen is having I

591
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: don't know if he signed or not, but I know

592
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: he was going to meet with the Chargers, his former team,

593
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: and there was mutual interest about a reunion.

594
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 4: There there's still Yeah, I'm trying to get this to

595
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 4: pull up and just see who's out there at wide receiver.

596
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: If he wanted to bring somebody out, a Maury would be.

597
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna play so much twelve that they

598
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: really like Cedric Tillman. Thrash has taking a step. Deontay

599
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: Johnson is a very serviceable veteran who you know last

600
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: we saw him. That'll be interesting for him too. Write

601
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: he's returning to Carolina. That's the team that he last

602
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: played with was the Carolina Panthers, and he was their

603
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: leading receiver when that relationship fracture the point that he

604
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: wanted out of there. There's not a ton out there.

605
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 4: He's Darden and Schwartz down there. But it's now you

606
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 4: mentioned Keenan at the top, and then Amari thirty one,

607
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 4: Gabe Davis just twenty six.

608
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: He struggled so much to Jackson build it.

609
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 4: He's at you a deep threat. Yeah, Nelson Agalore in

610
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 4: his thirties, Boyds is thirty.

611
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: Boyd's like kind of a slot receiver. Sure, Nelson Aglor

612
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: can still stretch the field and gave Davis considered.

613
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind his swing on Gabe Davis at twenty six,

614
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: Go run some nine routes, buddy.

615
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could do that. He isn't he can do that.

616
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: I know it was bad last year in Jacksonville obviously. Yeah,

617
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: twenty catches two hundred and thirty nine yards. Yeah, he

618
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: is not signed and they have to wonder. Well, here's

619
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: coach cuts fancy, maybe some insights on on the quarterbacks

620
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: and the plan for this week in Carolina.

621
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Speaker 6: He's from our fans, these young kids that are out here.

622
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 6: It's been a really special few days out here, so

623
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Speaker 6: that's a I want to acknowledge our fans first and foremost.

624
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 6: Injury front, Miles will be back out here today. He's

625
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 6: feeling good. Dylan Gabriel's dealing with a little bit of

626
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 6: tightness in his hamstring, so he'll be limited a bit

627
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 6: and then Shador he's good. You know, I was sore

628
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 6: in his in his arm and his thrown shoulder, but

629
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 6: getting treatment and he should be fine. Also, you're gonna

630
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 6: see we have a celebrity guest out here today coaching,

631
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 6: a guy named Joe Thomas will be helping out with

632
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 6: the offensive line. So anytime Joe's around and and we

633
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 6: can mind him for everything he's worth worth.

634
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 5: We're gonna do that.

635
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 6: So he's back in the old line meeting rooms getting

636
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 6: his football fixed and we're happy to have him. But

637
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 6: with that, I'll take any questions. So he will, he'll

638
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 6: be limited, he'll be in some drills, not yet ready

639
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 6: to go.

640
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 7: So, Kevin, have you made any final decision and ready

641
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 7: to announce what like kind of what the rotation may

642
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 7: be for joint practices.

643
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 5: In the in Carolina game.

644
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd say working through it. We'll hold some guys

645
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 6: out of the game. Uh, but we're looking forward to

646
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 6: the game.

647
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 8: You know.

648
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 6: That's a that's a fun part for our players, Uh

649
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 6: to get down there and compete against the Panthers on Wednesday,

650
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 6: compete against them Friday night.

651
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 5: But we will hold some guys out.

652
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: Could you give some details on the format for Wednesday?

653
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 6: Be very similar to joint practices that you've seen before, Tony.

654
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 6: We'll we'll do a couple of different special teams periods

655
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 6: to make sure we hit all four phases. We'll have

656
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 6: a seven on seven, a couple seven on sevens, we'll

657
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 6: have team. So it's it's you know, again first time

658
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 6: that we've done it in week one, so we won't

659
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 6: do a two minute per se, which we'll do the

660
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 6: following week in Philadelphia.

661
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 5: We're working through those type of things.

662
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 6: How what do you guys look forward to in the

663
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 6: joint practice and the first preseason again, what are you

664
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 6: looking to accomplish? Well, I think the fun part for

665
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 6: us as as competitors is you get to go against

666
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 6: somebody else and we have a ton of respect for

667
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 6: a coach Canalis and and the Panthers, so we're looking

668
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 6: forward to getting a really good day's work with them

669
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 6: on Wednesday, and then the game is really a fun

670
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 6: for our organization.

671
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 5: It's fun for our guys.

672
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 6: They finally get to be out there and they're keeping

673
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 6: score and we get to put guys in different positions

674
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 6: when it comes to situational ball and those type of things.

675
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 6: So that first preseason game is there's a lot of jitters,

676
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 6: as there always is for the young men, but we'll

677
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 6: talk to them about that, but great opportunity just to compete.

678
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 4: Besides, hope is all quarterbacks expected to get some playing

679
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: the time in the first pre season game.

680
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 5: We'll work through that in the next couple of days.

681
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: How far to get dealt back with day but it

682
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: just did. As far as scripting to practice how we

683
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: outset him.

684
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 5: So far, it's been great.

685
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 6: What you do typically is obviously Dave and I talked

686
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 6: way back when about this and and he's been a

687
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 6: gracious host and getting this thing organized for us. And

688
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 6: then I'll have the We have had our coordinators on

689
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 6: the horn with their coordinators just to get organized in

690
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 6: terms of what both sides need to see.

691
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: Was it any kind of a relief that Chaudor's arm

692
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: there is nothing serious and the fact that he self

693
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: reported when he's in the middle of a heated competition,

694
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 3: what did you.

695
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 6: Think of that for a rookie during Well, I think

696
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 6: he was just sure honest America. And I think obviously

697
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 6: he'll look at his process making sure that his arm's

698
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 6: ready to go, but it's nothing more than that he's

699
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 6: getting treatment.

700
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 5: He'll be good to go, and then try to just script.

701
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 9: Piling up on your quarterbacks, Kenny the hamstring now dealing

702
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 9: with over the hamstring, chared with did you necessarily.

703
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: You have a sen your BINGO card?

704
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 5: No? I didn't.

705
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 6: It's uh, hey, every day you're you learn something new,

706
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 6: so uh, all those guys that listen, they're all working hard,

707
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 6: but it's all part of it.

708
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 5: The first people.

709
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 6: Again, we'll just you guys will see how we plan

710
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 6: practice and uh, all these guys, which I'm appreciative of,

711
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 6: are are pushing the to do the best that they

712
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 6: can and then whatever it is.

713
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 5: And and I say that.

714
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 6: Because we just had a really good walkthrough in there

715
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 6: with the guys putting some two minutes in so they

716
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 6: handled that really well, so I expect them, expect them

717
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 6: to handle this as well.

718
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 5: But one of the.

719
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 6: Other young wine baggers are popping.

720
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 5: Out to you.

721
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's interesting, Jeff, because there's young guys, but

722
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 6: then there's some guys. There's veterans with some good experience

723
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 6: that I think are also uh acquitting themselves really nicely.

724
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 5: So, uh, it's a really good group.

725
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 6: Coach Tarbor, as you know, does an awesome job with

726
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 6: those guys. Uh, they're in the nerve center of our

727
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 6: defense and getting us lined up, making calls and that

728
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 6: type of thing.

729
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 5: So I've been really pleased with the entire.

730
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 6: But you start naming them, I'll say, yes, sorry, I

731
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 6: don't have the depth chart from it mention it. Maybe

732
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 6: it was a stop and stark nature of practice at

733
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 6: the arm you've led to the sore and can you

734
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 6: guys do anything for that or is that just up

735
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 6: to him to kind of stay loose at all.

736
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've talked about it. He'll do a great job.

737
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 5: He'll stay loose.

738
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 6: Uh, that's part of that gig, you know, part of

739
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 6: it for all quarterbacks is just keeping your arm loose

740
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 6: and he'll he'll do a good job.

741
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 7: Is that part of adjusting to you know, from college

742
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 7: to pros there's something maybe that you know, the timetable

743
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 7: and everything for a rookie to have.

744
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 6: I think there's so many adjustments that these guys are

745
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 6: tackling every single day. And yeah, of course getting your

746
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 6: body ready, knowing what your body needs. Uh, you know,

747
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 6: we have a lot of these practices in a row,

748
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 6: so you have to be smart about making sure you're ready.

749
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: To roll.

750
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 10: Something more a specific player.

751
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 6: No, this was on Saturday, So happened on Saturday, and

752
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 6: he's getting treatment on it and you'll see he'll be

753
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 6: out here just.

754
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 5: A little bit of tightness. I guess when it comes

755
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 5: to evaluation and these joint practice is first three season

756
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 5: set more value.

757
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 6: Like the joint practices happens the most you know, it's

758
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 6: a good question, Dan. I feel like there's value in

759
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 6: everything in what we're seeing from the guys that we

760
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 6: value their their how they do in the meeting room,

761
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 6: We value how they are in the walkthrough.

762
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 5: Like I mentioned earlier, we value all these practice reps.

763
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 6: Of course, when you're going up against another team and

764
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 6: it's a setting where maybe you don't know exactly what

765
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 6: the defense is gonna do or the offense is gonna do.

766
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: I think there's certainly value created in that.

767
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 6: And then in the preseason games, like I mentioned before,

768
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 6: they're keeping score, so the competitive part of our sport

769
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 6: kicks in, and you want to obviously do well in

770
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 6: those venues as well.

771
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 9: When you know you and the staff were talking a

772
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 9: lot about the processes and being really happy with what

773
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 9: you're seeing in that regard. So like, at what point

774
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 9: during campus, at these joint practices, is it, you know,

775
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 9: when the preseason is winding down, when do you focus

776
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 9: on results over the processes?

777
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, ultimately, this is a results business. That

778
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 6: this game is about results. We know that, But I

779
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 6: think you're doing yourself a disservice if you're not hyper

780
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 6: focused on your process as a player, as a coach,

781
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 6: whether you have success in a given play or not,

782
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 6: are you learning from that play? I mean that's that

783
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 6: all speaks to the process that allows you to play

784
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 6: well on Sundays.

785
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's the ultimate goal. But we're pretty.

786
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 6: Process driven, and that another way of saying that is

787
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 6: we take practice very seriously. We take the work we

788
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 6: do in the building very seriously, and that all adds

789
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 6: up to putting yourself in position to play good football.

790
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 5: Can kind of injuries are part.

791
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 11: Of it, and I know that it's another quarterback to summer,

792
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 11: a minor tweak here and there, But how which does

793
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 11: that hurt? Maybe you're processing of developing into the plan,

794
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 11: if at all it is it frustrating.

795
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 6: No, injuries are a part of this game that they're

796
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 6: frustrating from the standpoint of when you lose a guy

797
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 6: for a good amount of time.

798
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 5: You feel that's tough on the players.

799
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 6: But the dealing with injuries, adjusting his injuries, that's just

800
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 6: part of the game.

801
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 2: So why did you schedule the first week joint practice this.

802
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 6: Year as opposed to Yeah, I think every year, Tony,

803
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 6: just looking at our steal that word again, process, what

804
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 6: we can do better? What other teams are doing. Uh,

805
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 6: is there an opportunity to do something? So I can

806
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 6: you know, I'll talk while I'm down there. But my

807
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 6: relationship with coach Canalis, well, you know, our relationship among

808
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 6: the staff, like the scheme that they run on both

809
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 6: sides of the ball will be good for our team.

810
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 6: So there's a lot of positives to going down there.

811
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: Top dove tailing off what Dan ast earlier in the

812
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: way preseason.

813
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 5: Is a vot Are the joint workouts more benefit? Did

814
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 5: the dot wins?

815
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: Where the games are more beneficial for the rookies and

816
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: what they can.

817
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 5: Do in the fly and everything?

818
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 6: I'd say in some ways, yes, the preseason games you know,

819
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 6: are are great because they're they're opportunities in a controlled

820
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 6: environment for your players. Now, there's some teams that don't

821
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 6: play their starters at all in the preseason and that's

822
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 6: what they think is best for their team in that

823
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 6: given moment. And think about you know, quarterbacks that play

824
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 6: in the preseason. You're you're obviously not wearing a red jersey,

825
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 6: so you're free game in those situations whereas you're not

826
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 6: in practice and or a joint practice with another team.

827
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 6: So I think those are all things that we weigh

828
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 6: as coaches trying to figure out what our team needs

829
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 6: for for a given season, for a given week.

830
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: So when you say you will.

831
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 4: Hold those some guys for the game that needs some guys,

832
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 4: will put any regulars?

833
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 5: Yes? Put.

834
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 7: Bloom was talking about Potonio last week, saying you chucked

835
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 7: a lot of boxers for the future.

836
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame again to see what would you.

837
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 10: Say about what makes Jordan kind of player?

838
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 3: Uh?

839
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Joel's a Hall of Famer. I've been

840
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 6: blessed to be around Hall of famers and he fits

841
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 6: the mold. He's done it at an extremely high level for.

842
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 5: A really long time.

843
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 6: I think if you talk to players, I think players

844
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 6: are great judges of talent. I think if you talk

845
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 6: to players around this league and they know what Joel's about,

846
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 6: now that's the player. The person off the field is

847
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 6: a Hall of Fame person. And I rely heavily on

848
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 6: Joel really almost every day for his input and his

849
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 6: thoughts on where we are as a team, what we

850
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 6: need to be doing, what, you know, just getting a

851
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 6: feel for him and his teammates. He's an incredible ambassador

852
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 6: for his team. If you will and uh, you know,

853
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 6: but yeah, I can't say enough good things about him.

854
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 5: Having something he wanted to do something that.

855
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Joe knows what We'll take him as

856
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 6: much as we can get him. And I think he

857
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 6: was gonna be in town working this week, so he

858
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 6: traded in whatever he's doing for grab the whistle for

859
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 6: the week and see if he can you know, any

860
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 6: little help. Anything that Joe can do in the meeting

861
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 6: room's helps. I think anything Joe does out here on

862
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 6: the practice field helps. When you're talking about a Hall

863
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 6: of Famer. Uh, he's still working through it. Yeah, but

864
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 6: again better And Dylan was talking about the ups and

865
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 6: downs of the natural any trading camp, but publy especially

866
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 6: for what you how have you seen him kind of

867
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 6: handle those tools?

868
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

869
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 6: I think all these rookies, like you mentioned Scott and

870
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 6: certainly quarterbacks, there's there's plays that are set up for

871
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Speaker 6: you and you let it rip and it's there. There's

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Speaker 6: times that things aren't there, and and I think the

873
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Speaker 6: big thing is learning from every single one of those reps.

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Speaker 5: Like I can think of certain reps where you.

875
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Speaker 6: Gotta move in the pocket and then you gotta run

876
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Speaker 6: out of the pocket. You gotta go scramble and and

877
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Speaker 6: get as much as we can get and get down

878
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Speaker 6: and protect yourself.

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Speaker 5: That's real football.

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Speaker 6: So we're trying as hard as we can to mimic

881
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Speaker 6: that in these settings and and know that you're gonna

882
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Speaker 6: have some plays that you want back, but the bottom

883
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Speaker 6: eyes you have to learn from those plays.

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Speaker 5: I think he's doing that.

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Speaker 11: With tweaks to some of the other guys. Do you

886
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Speaker 11: think you might have to play.

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Speaker 12: Joe Flaco in the game.

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Speaker 6: I'll wait to discuss those type of things later, Mary kay,

889
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Speaker 6: but uh, those Joe's ready to go if we need them.

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Speaker 5: Good. Okay, thank you guys. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: All Right there you go, coach Tefanski from the podium

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Speaker 4: before we take this time out. Obviously, the major development

893
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Speaker 4: here is that in today's practice, which is a padded practice,

894
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Speaker 4: you will have two available quarterbacks for the team drills,

895
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Speaker 4: and those quarterbacks with Joe Flack when should were Sanders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you know a lot of people want

897
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Speaker 2: to see Shudre Sanders get an opportunity to be with

898
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Speaker 2: the first team, you would have to think that today

899
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Speaker 2: that opportunity will come in and for shird Door Sanders.

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Speaker 2: If it does, then you need to make the most

901
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Speaker 2: of them to get more of them. And if it

902
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Speaker 2: does not come today under these auspices, yeah, he is

903
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Speaker 2: not in the quarterback competition. Yeah, I don't start for

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Right to this point he hasn't been. But these injuries

907
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Speaker 4: maybe maybe force it.

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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 4: on one with Denzel Award.

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Speaker 10: Another day trying to camp in the books.

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Speaker 12: Another day Denzel Award of like live tackling, you guys.

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Speaker 10: Were like twenty minutes live half a game, but like today,

931
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Speaker 10: how'd that feel?

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Speaker 5: Now?

933
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Speaker 10: It felt good.

934
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Speaker 13: I think it's great for the team, is getting us

935
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Speaker 13: all prepared for the season and just getting those live reps.

936
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Speaker 13: So I've been enjoying it. It's been a great work

937
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 13: out there, so I like it.

938
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Speaker 12: Just to put into context here, Kevin Stefanski, Year six,

939
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Speaker 12: you guys have never gone live until a couple of

940
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 12: days ago and now twice in three days, but this

941
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Speaker 12: one was a lot longer than day one. What do

942
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Speaker 12: you I mean is how badly do you think the

943
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Speaker 12: team needed that?

944
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Speaker 10: And how much do you think it helps?

945
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

946
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Speaker 13: I think badly. I mean I think it helps tremendously.

947
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Speaker 13: I mean we're not trying to have a repeat of

948
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Speaker 13: last year, you know, then come out with the season

949
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Speaker 13: that we wanted, and we're doing something about it this year.

950
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Speaker 13: And so you know, we're putting that work in with

951
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 13: live reps and getting ready for the season.

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Speaker 10: I think it's gonna pay off.

953
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Speaker 12: At the same time, I'm sure you guys are are

954
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 12: more than excited, more than eager, more than ready to

955
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Speaker 12: go to Carolina next week and face somebody else.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, no, definitely, definitely just getting a different look

957
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Speaker 13: from different guys, different receivers, and so you know, it's

958
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Speaker 13: been fun going against these guys and get great work

959
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Speaker 13: with Judy and a lot of those guys. But just

960
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Speaker 13: being able to get a different look from other guys

961
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Speaker 13: and a different team I think will be good for us.

962
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Speaker 12: And one day's perfect for joint practice. I know Philadelphia

963
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Speaker 12: in a couple of weeks's gonna be two. But on

964
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Speaker 12: day two you and I know that's usually when the

965
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Speaker 12: fights happen. So does one day feel right in Carolina?

966
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one day will be fine.

967
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Speaker 13: You know, we'll get great work in, get our one

968
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Speaker 13: on ones and great repsent, so I think one day.

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Speaker 10: Will be good.

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Speaker 12: So yesterday, Dave Canallis, the head coach of the Carolina Panthers,

971
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Speaker 12: said that he's gonna play Brice you a little bit

972
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Speaker 12: in that preseason game, is gonna play some of the

973
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Speaker 12: starters a little bit?

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Speaker 10: Kevin said he.

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Speaker 12: Kind of knows what he's gonna do, but he hasn't

976
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Speaker 12: necessarily told you guys yet. Hence he's not gonna tell

977
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Speaker 12: the media yet. Overall philosophically, and there's no wrong answer. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: does Denzel Ward want to play in the preseason?

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Speaker 13: For me personally, I don't feel that I necessarily need

980
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Speaker 13: to play in the preseason. You know, I'm gonna be

981
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Speaker 13: ready to come Week one, But ultimately that's the head

982
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Speaker 13: coach's decision, and whatever he decides to do, you know,

983
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Speaker 13: I'm gonna roll with it. With that, I'll be ready

984
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Speaker 13: to go for the season regardless.

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Speaker 12: Let's talk about the work you're getting in here. What's

986
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Speaker 12: it like every day? Because I've been enjoying the battles.

987
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Speaker 12: I know everyone else the fans here have been enjoying

988
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Speaker 12: the battles, enjoying the battles between you and Jerry Judy.

989
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Speaker 12: How does our iron sharpened iron with you two man?

990
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Speaker 13: Just that it's just two great guys that don't want

991
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Speaker 13: to lose, and we're coming out here competing every day,

992
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 13: just trying to get each other better. I win some reps.

993
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Speaker 13: He wins some reps. You know, I win a couple

994
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Speaker 13: more reps than he wins. But we're just out here

995
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Speaker 13: just trying to get each other better. That's the biggest thing.

996
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Speaker 12: You also had another one out here as well today

997
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Speaker 12: getting a hand in Cedric inside the fifteen.

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Speaker 10: Tell me about that one.

999
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, we're in zone coverage and I just seen

1000
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Speaker 13: him on the inside of me and the quarterbacks and

1001
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Speaker 13: tensions going there and was able to get a good

1002
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Speaker 13: jump on it and make a play.

1003
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Speaker 2: On the ball.

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Speaker 10: Talk to m j Emerson, Yes, how's he doing. He's

1005
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Speaker 10: doing good. He's in good spirits.

1006
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Speaker 13: You know, he's gonna attack this injury that he had,

1007
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Speaker 13: and I'm sure he's gonna get back and get well.

1008
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Speaker 12: I was over there when it happened, and just me

1009
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Speaker 12: speaking here as a human being now a member of

1010
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Speaker 12: the media, it was heartbreaking because you know how hard

1011
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 12: that he has worked.

1012
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Speaker 10: At the same time, it's next man up.

1013
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Speaker 12: Like both are true, Like you feel for him so much,

1014
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 12: Yet you guys have to power forward. How do you,

1015
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 12: as a human being, as a football player, as a friend,

1016
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Speaker 12: as a brother deal with that?

1017
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Speaker 13: Yeah, that's a bit, Like you said, that's the biggest thing,

1018
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 13: that's my brother, and just seeing how much work he

1019
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 13: put in during the off season and just his mentality

1020
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Speaker 13: going into the season like he wanted to be the

1021
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Speaker 13: best and he's going to be the best, and just

1022
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 13: to see him go down, it was just tough to see.

1023
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Speaker 13: But like you said, his next man that mentality and

1024
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 13: is gon give other guys a lot of great opportunities

1025
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 13: to be starters and to get out there and get

1026
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 13: some players out there.

1027
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Speaker 12: What does leadership mean to you, Denzel Ward? Because I

1028
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 12: know that's very very important for you.

1029
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Speaker 13: Just my presence out here on the practice field, the

1030
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Speaker 13: way I'm competing, the way I show up every day,

1031
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 13: and my mindset, my energy that I'm giving to everybody,

1032
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 13: Just trying to be that role model that guys to

1033
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 13: come talk to and just look at the see how

1034
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 13: to do things right.

1035
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Speaker 10: How much pride you taking that? Oh, take a lot

1036
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 10: of pride in it? Was there a lot defensively big

1037
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 10: picture here.

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Speaker 12: What do you say to the people that say, hey,

1039
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 12: I know a couple of years ago you guys were

1040
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 12: number one. I don't know that you can get back there, Denzil.

1041
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 12: How does this team put last year in the rear

1042
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 12: view mirror.

1043
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 10: Every year is different.

1044
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 12: I realize that, But how does this team get back

1045
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 12: to the level we saw in twenty twenty three?

1046
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think just like you said, we got more

1047
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 13: live practices and that's how we go get there. Just

1048
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 13: working hard every day and just keeping that goal in mind,

1049
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Speaker 13: like that's where we're trying to get to. Me trying

1050
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Speaker 13: to get to that number one spot and be the

1051
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Speaker 13: best defense to help our offense and special teams.

1052
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Speaker 12: A couple of days on the podium, you said that

1053
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 12: you are excited to see Mason Graham.

1054
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Speaker 10: Tell me what you've seen.

1055
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Speaker 13: Man, His body looks a lot better. You know, he

1056
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Speaker 13: looks slimmed down, so he's been he's been working.

1057
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Speaker 14: Man.

1058
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Speaker 13: He's looking fast out there, looking explosive on that D line.

1059
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Speaker 13: So I'll continue to look forward to see him out there.

1060
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Speaker 12: Have you come to grips yet with the how quiet

1061
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 12: and unassuming he is off the field and how he

1062
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Speaker 12: turns it on.

1063
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Speaker 10: He's like a different guy.

1064
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 13: Oh, you just got talked to him. Man, he'd be

1065
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 13: talking and I got a lot of energy to him.

1066
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Speaker 13: So he just got talked to him. But no, he's

1067
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Speaker 13: gonna be a great player for about forty nine. Oh yeah, No,

1068
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Speaker 13: I'm liking him a lot. I seem like, ye, I'm

1069
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Speaker 13: liking him a lot. He's making plays every day out

1070
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Speaker 13: here in practice, and he's getting to.

1071
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Speaker 10: Dude, can fly.

1072
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Speaker 2: He can.

1073
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Speaker 12: When you're playing that fast as a rookie, What does

1074
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 12: that tell you that he's one prepared mentally?

1075
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Speaker 13: You know, he studies playbook and he just has a

1076
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Speaker 13: great feel for the game and you're seeing that out here.

1077
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Speaker 12: All right, Denzel, I'll close with the obligatory quarterback question.

1078
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Speaker 10: Knowing you're just number twenty one on the.

1079
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Speaker 12: Other side of the ball, I get that, but I

1080
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 12: also know that, like when you're out getting coffee, when

1081
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Speaker 12: you're out for lunch, it's the only thing anyone wants

1082
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Speaker 12: to ask, right.

1083
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Speaker 10: So Denzel, A'll ask, how do the quarterbacks look? What

1084
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Speaker 10: do you think?

1085
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Speaker 13: Yeah, quarterbacks are looking good, man. They out here competing.

1086
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Speaker 13: And I said, just like you guys, I'm looking forward

1087
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Speaker 13: to see who that starring quarterback is going to become

1088
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Speaker 13: Game one and uh, but they're all out here competing,

1089
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Speaker 13: all looking good, working hard.

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Speaker 12: I mean this year, I've been saying this for a while,

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00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 12: like the preseason actually means something like because of.

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Speaker 10: The quarterback competition, right, definitely.

1093
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll end with that.

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00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 10: Definitely. That means that means yes, Denzel's good to see you, man,

1095
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 10: you as well.

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00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: Man.

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00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 10: All right, good luck out here in camp, have fun

1098
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 10: in Carolina.

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00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 15: Thank you, appreciate it. All right, there you go Andrew

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00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 15: to Silliana. What's look at that right there? What's he got?

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00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 15: He got a six pack? There is that a cooler?

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00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 2: Look at him?

1103
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 8: Yes?

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00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 16: God?

1105
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yes, ladies, gentleman.

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00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 2: Yes, now that he's out of his vehicle, let him hear. Yes,

1107
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 2: he got here. Look at this he's got. He's got

1108
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 2: a cooler, the great off gear. Look what is this?

1109
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: What treats are inside of you? Oh?

1110
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 5: Some meats?

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00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 2: The meats? Oh my, oh my, go coach, what a treat?

1112
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 2: Did you get a chance to talk to uh? To

1113
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: our new tackle? Killian for Munich? I actually I wondered,

1114
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: who's gonna work? But real quick we wondered.

1115
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 17: His best friend in Munich was one of my linemen

1116
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 17: played for the Ravens, Philip Fine zero for his preseason game.

1117
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 17: Because he was playing for the Texans last year, I

1118
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 17: sent him a little video, Hey, pumping him up. You

1119
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 17: could do this you're gonna kick some and then you know,

1120
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 17: get him fired up. Had had a good season, and

1121
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 17: then I'm fired up. I can't believe we signed him

1122
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 17: the same day that I showed.

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00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: Up I wave. People are saying that perhaps you had

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00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 2: a hand in this, given the connection.

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00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 17: Well, I can either confirm nor deny this because I'm

1126
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 17: excited that there is a coincidence.

1127
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 16: Oh, I'm gonna leave the stuff here because I you

1128
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 16: know the after stuff. But we got some stuff here,

1129
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 16: and then you should into it. Rip into it right now.

1130
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 16: You're gonna have a little knife. It doesn't have the

1131
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 16: nice easy open just yet, so you got to use

1132
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 16: pen knife or I think I can get it.

1133
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: Asked if you could do that, you've got grip straight.

1134
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 5: No, I don't.

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00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 3: I don't.

1136
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 2: I don't. I thought I did. I could have really

1137
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 2: sealed great sea in the great half. What a seal there,

1138
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: that's a great seal.

1139
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 4: These are the meats we've been dying to try. Boy,

1140
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 4: I don't know. The half ceiling crew on the Hoff

1141
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 4: beef is elite.

1142
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 2: And if you want to have that vacuum seal to

1143
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 2: keep the flavor and the freshness in there, Hof's going

1144
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 2: to work. He's going to work. He's going to work

1145
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: the great holl There we go, crack, did you get it?

1146
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: There?

1147
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: You go?

1148
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 3: Let me try one of these beef sticks.

1149
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you want to suck down a beef stick

1150
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: to give it?

1151
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 3: You want a beef stick to come. I look like

1152
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 3: a man that says no to a beef stick.

1153
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: Apple out of these ones, so I add I was

1154
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 2: j Mac. That's a delicious beefstick. My god, it's the apple.

1155
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 2: And you know Wisconsin known for its cheddar.

1156
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 3: How did he get him here?

1157
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 5: Uh?

1158
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 2: And of course no, no, no cooler on the trip.

1159
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: He was in Canton for the weekend. Oh yeah, it's delightful.

1160
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 2: That's a nutmeg am I getting cinnamon.

1161
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 3: H mm hmmm mm hmmm.

1162
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 4: What a real treat, What a real treat here on

1163
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 4: a Monday, sucking down some hof beef.

1164
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 2: That's iod that Wisconsin schuddar in there. We had, you know, yeah,

1165
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: I've had these and these are it's almost like a

1166
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: if meat sticks were desserts. We're getting here. Protein pop

1167
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 2: really really good consistency too. It's you got a snap on.

1168
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: Is important to have the snap if you.

1169
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 4: Got a beefstick that doesn't have a snap, then you

1170
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 4: got problems. Yeah, what a delight, What a delight, great

1171
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 4: seeing him.

1172
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: Oh, he'll be with us all week.

1173
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 2: He's literally coaching. He ran the offensive line, meaning this

1174
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: morning was in there with coach Bilodon.

1175
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 4: How cool is that. That's such a cool thing to

1176
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 4: have a resource like the hoff and then to use.

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00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 2: It, I said. He basically was like, hey share some knowledge,

1178
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 2: so he did, so he did. Knowledge was shared.

1179
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna take a quick time out on

1180
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 4: the other side. Away we go. Remember if you miss

1181
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 4: the press conference, you missed some of the earlier parts

1182
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 4: of the show. Just two quarterbacks available for team. Those

1183
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 4: quarterbacks Joe Flacco and Shoodoeur Sanders. So that's what we're

1184
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 4: going to see here. Coming up second hour Cleveland Rosely

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1195
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Speaker 2: learn more.

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00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 4: This is it in terms of open practices, right, this

1197
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 4: is the last one.

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Speaker 2: I think, So, I think that's right.

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Speaker 5: This is it.

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Speaker 3: I think this is it for us being outside.

1201
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 2: Well, I'll miss it. I love it. I love these

1202
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: I love painting the pictures as it were. Well that

1203
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 2: I like, Yeah, what would be great is if it

1204
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: could just be simulcast into our studio and we could

1205
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: call it off of the screen from when when it

1206
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 2: was crazy condition.

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00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, the humidity was the humidity and the bugs. The

1208
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 4: great Bernard over here, they're the legend. Boy he picks

1209
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 4: up a pen. It's like Tiger Woods. Yeah, you pick

1210
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 4: up a pen, You're never gonna stop, buddy.

1211
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 2: No, there's gonna be throngs.

1212
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 4: I was trying to explain this to the boys, and

1213
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 4: the best way that I've I've come up with, and

1214
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 4: it's actually what I've come up with, is to steal

1215
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 4: from you players just getting warmed up by the way

1216
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 4: out here where in the position groups just kind of

1217
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 4: warming up by the way.

1218
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 2: I've loaned it to you.

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00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, appreciate that you loan me the take,

1220
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 4: and I think it's the correct one.

1221
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: What's that?

1222
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 2: Berth's a great Bernie there he is Bernie. You want

1223
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: to meet Stick? Do you want to meet Stick? From

1224
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: Joe to that part of the part of the regimen? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1225
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: Well we could blend it up for you. There is

1226
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: apple in it, apple and cheddar. Yeah. Yeah. How you doing, man,

1227
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 2: I'm doing good.

1228
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 14: This is this is so therapeutic to be out here

1229
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 14: watching football training camp.

1230
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 8: Beautiful day, it's not one hundred degrees much nicer.

1231
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 2: This weekend we had burnie.

1232
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 8: Oh, gorgeous week gorgeous.

1233
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 2: No humidity. Were you down in Cantona?

1234
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 5: All?

1235
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 14: I went down to Canton a little bit, still super

1236
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 14: humbling to watch, to watch the guys. And maybe I'm

1237
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 14: getting a little more reflective as I age age a

1238
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 14: little bit, sure, but I see my slowness and the

1239
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 14: way I move, and I see some of my compatriots

1240
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 14: that were a little slower though we used to be.

1241
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 4: It's so I've only been down there once. We were

1242
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 4: down there for Joe's when he went in, you know,

1243
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 4: and and it's almost in less. I can't imagine for

1244
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 4: you being an NFL legend the way that you are,

1245
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 4: and because you just run into the damnedest people in

1246
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 4: the damnedest places. The whole league convenes on Canton for

1247
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 4: that weekend yeap, and it's like the whole lea and

1248
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 4: not just the league, Bernie, the history of the league

1249
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 4: is all there that weekend.

1250
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awesome.

1251
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 8: I concur with you.

1252
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 14: I'm gonna I'm gonna say it back out in the

1253
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 14: spirit of our listeners trying to pretend like I'm.

1254
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 8: Cool and stuff.

1255
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 14: You are super I'm super humbled by when I'm there.

1256
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 14: I'm almost fanboyed for sure to some guys and a

1257
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 14: little bit intimidated to where, you know, do I feel

1258
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 14: like I should be in some of those environments and stuff,

1259
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 14: and the fans.

1260
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 8: Are so awesome to me.

1261
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 14: But sometimes I'm getting more cheers then some guys who

1262
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 14: should get more cheers than me, and I'm not in

1263
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 14: the hall, and that's super humbling.

1264
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 8: But at times like it.

1265
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 14: Was, it was cool to be part of that, but

1266
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 14: it was something where I'm cognizant and.

1267
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 8: Respectful of the guys with the gold jacket.

1268
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: You're beloved though. You're a legend. You are beloved in

1269
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: this town. You're an institution here. I say it all

1270
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: the time, and this is the truth. I grew up

1271
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: in the San Francisco Bay Area. Obviously, Joe Montana was

1272
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: the quarterback of the forty nine ers, and in my

1273
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 2: youth there were a great many Super Bowls. When you

1274
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: are one percent this is not nice. Nine point nine

1275
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: percent or I'm one hundred percent sure you are more

1276
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: popular and more beloved here than Joe Montane is in

1277
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 2: the Bay Area. There's something about you the human being

1278
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 2: that is so endearing. Not to mention that you are

1279
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 2: in that period of Browns football in a football town

1280
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: is the best period of Browns football. Everybody absolutely loves it.

1281
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: People of our age. That is like when I when

1282
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 2: I today, I could go anywhere and you got to

1283
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: do a show with Bernie. Yeah, yep, you're Bernie kozar Man.

1284
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 2: So you absolutely, you absolutely belong. You are elite. Absolutely.

1285
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 4: The other thing I think you deserve a lot of

1286
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 4: credit for is you've kind of been the face of

1287
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 4: sports in this region for forty years. Yeah, decades, You've

1288
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 4: been that man Like you're there. I mean, you sign

1289
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 4: an autographs here. I mean, all these years later, you

1290
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 4: resonate as much now as you did in nineteen eighty five,

1291
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 4: which is an incredible.

1292
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 8: Trage to say, thank you guys so much.

1293
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 14: You know, I'm thanks for pointing out this is it's

1294
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 14: true inflating. But to walk over here and see all

1295
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 14: those little boys Carrie in at nineteen, for all you

1296
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 14: thirty five to forty five year old parents out there,

1297
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 14: you're awesome because I know, I know those kids weren't

1298
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 14: alive when I was there, so they got really.

1299
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 8: Good parents, right right, Tom up.

1300
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: Right, Bertie.

1301
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 4: We got a we got a big day in front

1302
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 4: of us because we've got Dylan. Gabriel's not going to

1303
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 4: do team because of a hamstring. Kenny's not going to

1304
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 4: do team, so it's Joe and everyone's been wanting Shador

1305
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 4: to get a look. It feels like today could be

1306
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 4: the day.

1307
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 14: Yeah, Like we talked the end of last week, it's

1308
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 14: tough and sad for Kenny.

1309
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 8: Hopefully looking better that he'll be ready for.

1310
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 14: The Carolina Philly practices, which is essential, but in badness

1311
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 14: is massive opportunity for others.

1312
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 8: So Shador, you.

1313
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 14: Know, having a little arm issue, not maybe throwing this weekend.

1314
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 14: Hopefully you know he's able to take advantage of it,

1315
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 14: and I be super excited to get those rafts.

1316
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to you just want to see what

1317
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: it looks like, and you want to see if you know,

1318
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 2: do we have a shot here with Shador and it

1319
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 2: look it is on its face if knowing nothing else

1320
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: about him, knowing nothing about his college careers, family, if

1321
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 2: you said he's a fifth round pick, he's probably not

1322
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 2: in this competition, and thus far he really hasn't been,

1323
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: which is appropriate for being a fifth round pick on

1324
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 2: a team with four quarterbacks in camp. But today is

1325
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 2: an opportunity for him, who a guy that many people

1326
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 2: thought was the best quarterback in this draft. There are

1327
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 2: certainly some did and afters thought he was certainly the

1328
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 2: second best quarterback in the draft. To prove that he

1329
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 2: is in fact that he should get some looks today

1330
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 2: and that will be very very interesting to see. One

1331
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: thing I've seen over there that's a little right now

1332
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 2: not great, is the ball has hit the ground a lot,

1333
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 2: and these routes on air, not Shador, I think is

1334
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: throwing that one. They're right on the money to rold

1335
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 2: Fan and but this practice on Friday last week and

1336
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 2: Saturday was a little better, but not much. Was very

1337
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 2: loppy in the passing game, very sloppy. Ken Sefanski was

1338
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 2: you could tell you don't typically hear him when he

1339
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 2: gets everybody together, you could hear him pretty loudly that

1340
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: what he that was unacceptable. If this team wants to

1341
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: be a team of consequence.

1342
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 8: I don't know if it's appropriate.

1343
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 14: So cut me off with certain things that we talk about.

1344
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 14: Don't talk about, but I coach Stefanski was awesome. I thought,

1345
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 14: as an old school guy who sometimes maybe you can't

1346
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,959
Speaker 14: talk way the ways I used to talk forty years

1347
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 14: ago and coaches used to talk in there, And if

1348
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 14: it's okay to say, coach Stefanski, who's a brilliant, beautiful, articulate,

1349
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 14: eloquent person. For the first time I ventured up on

1350
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 14: Friday because Jason Garrett was there and I kind of

1351
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 14: ventured up towards the team talk at the end of

1352
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 14: practice for the first time this camp.

1353
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 8: And we get a mouthful of energy.

1354
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 2: Yes, so he was.

1355
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 14: I love that they look at it sometimes we are

1356
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 14: professional guys who sometimes need a kick in the backside

1357
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 14: and reminded that we are we like we play an

1358
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 14: aggressive game, and we did. We were off a little bit,

1359
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 14: but that's a little bit natural the first week after hitting.

1360
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 14: So I love the way coach Dvansky kind of addressed

1361
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 14: the team and gave us, gave us a wake up call.

1362
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 4: You see it over there. I don't know if you

1363
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 4: saw that. Dylan really short armed that out there. It

1364
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 4: was well behind her. You feel like he's definitely.

1365
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 14: So if your hand he's there, you're you're not stepping, yeah,

1366
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 14: and you're coming down almost like on the baseball mound.

1367
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 8: If you're gonna short arm your front pitch.

1368
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 2: Is if as a quarterback, is it better if it's

1369
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: your front leg or your back leg or is either

1370
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 2: leg equally as bad because your back legs kind of

1371
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 2: your drive leg, right, your front leg would be more

1372
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 2: your plant leg.

1373
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1374
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 14: I I didn't really have enough muscles to really tear them,

1375
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 14: and I didn't move fast enough to.

1376
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 8: Really hurt my drop. So that's that's a really good

1377
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 8: question I have to ask an athletic quarterback.

1378
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: Then all right, Browns have made a sign. So I

1379
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: was wondering here, I was looking out there, I'm like,

1380
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 2: who the heck is Number forty four? And I went

1381
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 2: on our website Leroy Kelly, and there was a forty

1382
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 2: four on part touched Bobby. But so there we did

1383
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 2: sign a tight end. That makes me feel a lot better.

1384
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing things. Browns have signed tight end Mitch

1385
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 2: van Voren, a rookie out of Saint Norbert, originally signed

1386
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 2: by Seattle's and undrafted phage of the offseason. In his

1387
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 2: two seasons the area one thousand yard thirteen touchdowns, also

1388
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 2: an All American for the track team, finishing fourth in

1389
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 2: the Division three Outdoor National Championship in the four hundred

1390
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 2: meter hurdles. He will wear number forty four, and then

1391
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: the Browns also selected trevy On assigned trevy On Williams,

1392
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 2: entering his seventh NFL season out of Texas A and M.

1393
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: It was a Bengals pick in the sixth round last season,

1394
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: appeared in seventeen games for Cincinnati. He will wear number

1395
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 2: thirty six as the Browns try to add a little

1396
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 2: more depth in that running back room and keep bringing

1397
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: people in. I like that tight end.

1398
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 14: I think, see you know I'm friends with aj Barner,

1399
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 14: Aurora y School four third round pick from Michigan to Seattle.

1400
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 14: They took for their number one pick, Royo the tight

1401
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 14: End from from the University.

1402
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 8: I love them.

1403
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,919
Speaker 14: So they're loaded, so they don't have space under tight

1404
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 14: End room to keep guys like that.

1405
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 8: So that could be a nice, nice little pickup.

1406
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 14: But typically these pickups is time to year aren't overly sexy.

1407
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 14: But that could add add depth for a guy who

1408
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 14: loves the twelve and thirteen personnel c our offense this year.

1409
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 2: Anything into that running back? Yeah, so Pierre Strong is

1410
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: not practicing today, Okay, So that I think is that

1411
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 2: tells the direct correlation. Yeah, so when you think about it, no,

1412
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 2: you know, no Quinchohn, no Pierre Strong. And now you've

1413
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 2: got to get a fifth running back in here. And

1414
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 2: so Trevion Williams gets signed right there for the Browns.

1415
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 2: He's a veteran. He's a guy that you know, has

1416
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: been in the league. Like I said, for a while,

1417
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 2: I think he could come in and know exactly what

1418
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 2: he's got to do. But yeah, this is so Julian

1419
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 2: Pearl with the signing of the two tackles. The other

1420
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: day we talked about it. I said, they have ten

1421
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 2: tackles in here. Well, now they've got nine. Julian Pearl

1422
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 2: will go ahead and he has been released by the

1423
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns.

1424
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 4: Bernie, when you're put me in the head of Shador

1425
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 4: and you know you've been doing all of the things

1426
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 4: everybody's saying, you're doing all the things right, but you

1427
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 4: weren't getting the opportunities. And now, unfortunately for the other

1428
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 4: two buddies in your room that go down and they're

1429
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 4: both going to be on the shelf. Now you may

1430
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 4: get this opportunity. What someone who all they've done their

1431
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 4: life is be accurate in play football. What's critical that

1432
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 4: you want to see from him today and where's his

1433
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 4: head need to be.

1434
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 14: So I'm not trying to just be a homer being

1435
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 14: on the Browns bandwagon, the Chador bandwagon, but I am

1436
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 14: and how shoudour and we talked with him Friday on

1437
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 14: the Insider Show and that, yeah, he can't be more

1438
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 14: spectacular in terms of how he's conducting himself and some

1439
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 14: of the things that.

1440
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 8: You watch out here in terms of he was an.

1441
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 14: Hour early for practice today doing individual drills, not just

1442
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 14: out here floating around getting camera shots and social media.

1443
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,919
Speaker 8: He's doing actual, actual work to get better. Then he's

1444
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 8: one of the last guys to leave.

1445
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 14: He genuinely bonds and it's awesome the young people here

1446
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 14: that are kind of relating to me in that.

1447
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 8: But this spark that he.

1448
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 14: Gives them, the energy that he gives is super special.

1449
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 14: And people say, well, that doesn't correlate to being a

1450
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 14: leader in the in the football and.

1451
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 8: Locker room, and I disagree. I actually love some.

1452
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 14: Of the personality he's doing, the way it's somewhat galvanizing

1453
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 14: of the locker room and if he can keep up

1454
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 14: with that with where it matches his performance with plays

1455
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 14: on the field.

1456
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 8: And for the people that.

1457
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 14: Were overly panicked about no reps early notice, even without

1458
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 14: reps and stop, his arm still got tired. Yeah, so

1459
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 14: it is different in the pros. So it's a it's

1460
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 14: a marathon. And for him not to get some good

1461
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 14: reps today by himself, this is I think he's ready

1462
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 14: for it.

1463
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 2: And some people were criticizing him for doing the extra

1464
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 2: throwing before and after and saying that's why his arms

1465
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 2: tired and he should know better, and.

1466
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, I screwed that up as a kid to look at.

1467
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 14: There's certain things when you're a perfectionist. I love he's

1468
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 14: a perfectionist. I love his pursuit of loving the process

1469
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 14: and being perfectionists. And yeah, Gary Danielson tried to warn

1470
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 14: me too, and sometimes you throw your arm a little

1471
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 14: bit out, and.

1472
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 2: Well what he was saying the hard part for him

1473
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: is and he's used to obviously being the starter. He

1474
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 2: got every rep in Colorado, and it's been the you know,

1475
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 2: you get three reps here and then you don't throw

1476
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 2: the ball for fifteen minutes and then you come in

1477
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 2: and you're trying to put mustard on it, and so

1478
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 2: it's been kind of it was it was a cost

1479
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 2: from overwork, which, by the way, he's trying to get

1480
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 2: reps any way he can. It was more cause from

1481
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: the start stop start the four quarterback and I had

1482
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 2: to keep his arm loose.

1483
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 14: Yeah, well he's young. Actually, God, I'm not to be

1484
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 14: selfish something. And that's why I retired. I' would warm

1485
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 14: up at twelve thirty of when I was a backup

1486
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 14: at the end of my career, but if I didn't play,

1487
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 14: it would be like till three o'clock and I couldn't

1488
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 14: I couldn't recrank it open again. Once that arm got

1489
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 14: loose that it only stayed loose one.

1490
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 8: Time for a couple hours.

1491
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 2: We had to squeeze. But that's a big adjustment. I

1492
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 2: think that's gotta be huge.

1493
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 4: It's a huge It's a huge one. Yes, I mean

1494
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 4: we were talking earlier. I was down at O Highest

1495
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 4: State camp last week, and the amount of reps that

1496
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 4: they wrapped those quarterbacks through compared to how little they

1497
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 4: get here, it's amazing. I mean, so much has changed

1498
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 4: in this sport, and college isn't what it used to

1499
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 4: be either, but they still get a little bit more

1500
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 4: time that I feel like these guys get in terms

1501
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 4: of just throwing the football in team. Yeah, yeah, they

1502
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 4: just get a little more, especially in a two per

1503
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 4: there it's a two person quarterback thing and here, you know,

1504
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 4: it's kind of four.

1505
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: So Brown's right now, Bernie. They're working on like a

1506
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 2: fake jerky route where you're running that little out, you know,

1507
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 2: and you jerk it back in, but it's kind of

1508
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 2: a one step fake back in on the jerk route

1509
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 2: and getting back out. So trying to find some some

1510
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 2: man coverage beaters down there in the red zone.

1511
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 14: So I love that, and I really love that kind

1512
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:18,839
Speaker 14: of jerk rowd in and out from the slot receiver

1513
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 14: in the red zone.

1514
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 8: For sure.

1515
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 14: That was my go to two minute play for safety in.

1516
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 8: With Reggie Langhorn. You know, when you're doing four receivers.

1517
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 14: Man, you got something cute, and if it's too deep,

1518
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,600
Speaker 14: they end up settling right in front of you with

1519
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 14: that middle read behind it. So that's a that's a

1520
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 14: really good play to actually implement, not just the red

1521
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,919
Speaker 14: zone that we're working on today, but into into two minutes.

1522
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 2: So when you say that settle in with the middle

1523
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 2: read behind it, you're you're reading then the mic. If

1524
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: the mic comes short, you throw it over his head.

1525
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 2: If he says deep, you take it right.

1526
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,839
Speaker 14: Yeah, and then I was Langhorn or a slot receiver

1527
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 14: with some athleticism turning it up.

1528
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 5: It's now.

1529
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 14: I did make that mistake one time, the one poor

1530
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 14: throw in my illustrious career. I pride myself home not

1531
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 14: killing any of my receivers over the middle.

1532
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 8: But that was only one time. Though.

1533
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 14: The mistake was to Reggie Langhorn and Sam Mills decapitated.

1534
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 2: So one mistakeeah the Panthers at Ricky Jackson, Sam Swelling.

1535
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 8: I had two prerequisites in the league.

1536
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 14: If I played Ronnie Lott, he would get an interception

1537
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 14: against me and if I paid played Pat Swilling, Sam Mills,

1538
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 14: and Ricky Jackson.

1539
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 3: I was on.

1540
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 14: I got a safety in the super Dome against me

1541
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 14: the two times I played Jesus God, I caught the

1542
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 14: lights on the super Dome and at the Old Giant Stadium, Taylor,

1543
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 14: those were squads defensive for sure.

1544
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 8: Wonder I got concussion.

1545
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 2: All that astro turf didn't help you either, buddy, Oh.

1546
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:10,719
Speaker 18: No, it wasn't pavement painted pain painted cement.

1547
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 4: All right, it looks like we could be getting uh,

1548
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 4: we're gonna get it right right here in front of us,

1549
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 4: and it's you know, it's interesting, like if you're Kenny,

1550
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 4: especially Kenny, I'm sure he's just chomping.

1551
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 2: At the bit to do anything. Yeah, get a little

1552
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 2: one on so hopefully get a little one on ones

1553
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 2: here looks like in front of us, Yeah, get Flacco

1554
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 2: and pick it here with the receivers and down at

1555
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 2: the other end, it's gonna be Chadure and Dylan Gabriel

1556
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 2: will be my guess, the running backs and the tight

1557
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 2: ends for some one on ones here. It looks like

1558
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 2: low red zone inside the ten one on ones. So

1559
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 2: that's why you're seeing over on air they're working that

1560
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 2: double jerk route kind of the the fake on it.

1561
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,799
Speaker 2: So I'm sure you're gonna see some of those concepts

1562
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 2: that they were just working on. Grounds were also running

1563
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 2: where you run that speed out right to the goal line,

1564
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 2: but it's really an out and up with the ball

1565
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 2: thrown on the out so a little loft on it

1566
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 2: to I had hit right at the back pylon there

1567
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 2: and take advantage of a corner that's trying to jump

1568
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 2: that quick out. There's Cedric Tillman working against Chickenoosium. He

1569
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 2: gets into the end zone there on a quick little out,

1570
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 2: So we're gonna kind of progress here. I bet we're

1571
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 2: gonna get out the out and up and then the

1572
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 2: jerk route. There's black Yep, there's the kind of and

1573
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 2: like almost a you out from Jamari Thrash. Good coverage

1574
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 2: from Cam Mitchell there.

1575
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 4: This is the one you came to see this. That's

1576
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 4: Denzel and Jerry right here near us.

1577
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 2: Oh, Judy gets him on the out there touchdown from

1578
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: Joe Flecko.

1579
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 5: You know, I love the.

1580
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 14: Way in today's game and the red zone inside the five,

1581
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 14: they throw these quick outs like that.

1582
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 8: There was a hardened rule in.

1583
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 14: The seventies, eighties and early nineties that thou never throws

1584
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 14: a quick out inside the five.

1585
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 8: And I really argue.

1586
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 14: And struggle with that because I believe you could throw that,

1587
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 14: but you weren't allowed to do that back in the day.

1588
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 14: And you could see that that really does open up

1589
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 14: the field and then allows that slam type stuff.

1590
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 8: Crossing routes have a better chance to get open.

1591
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 2: That was a nice route by DeAndre Carter there kind

1592
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 2: of faked that out and then spun it back to

1593
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 2: the inside. The jerk route got open. Gauge Larvadan, nice

1594
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 2: out along the back line, fun good ball from Kenny

1595
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 2: Pickett as well got him lean into the outside. Bernie

1596
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 2: broke it to the inside around that back line and

1597
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 2: a good ball from Kenny Pickett to get in there

1598
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 2: for the touchdown. Larvadan has had a great camp on

1599
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 2: the other side. That was the new tight end there

1600
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 2: got a touchdown from Schudor Sanders van Vooren. I feel like,

1601
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 2: I feel like the hoff comes here and it's all.

1602
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 5: Names.

1603
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 14: I was gonna ask you to repeat that again so

1604
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 14: I have the courage to say it.

1605
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 2: Oh, there's that double jerk Luke who's been creating a separation.

1606
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 14: We've been talking about the first t weeks of camp

1607
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 14: that this jerk route inside spot is so meant for him.

1608
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,600
Speaker 8: Ak a little Brian Brennan looking.

1609
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 2: There, Keishawn Johnson there with a nice little cross the

1610
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 2: face with the slant right now, and the Browns receivers

1611
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 2: having a very good time and they should. This should

1612
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 2: be a drill where you get a lot of touchdownsne

1613
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: out that who threw that was that picket? That was

1614
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett' That was a beautiful ball and that outing

1615
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 2: up we were talking about, Bernie, where the ball's in

1616
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 2: the air while Tilman's making the move and it hit

1617
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 2: him perfectly in stride at the back corner of that

1618
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 2: end zone, perfectly in stride. That was a heck of

1619
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: a throw. So pickets looking pretty good here, Jamorry Thresh,

1620
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 2: Miles Harden out ball maybe a little late there, a

1621
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 2: little bit a little bit.

1622
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 4: It's just good to see Kenny Beck out here spinning

1623
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 4: it a little bit, you know, after last week when

1624
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 4: he was down and I'm sure he knows like how

1625
01:15:59,000 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 4: critical all of this is.

1626
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 2: And that's another good one, good ball. The fade up

1627
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 2: to the new receiver coda right there, six', four went

1628
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 2: up and got. It nice catch there For Chad. Coda

1629
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 2: did his dad, Play, yes he was the. Safety. Okay

1630
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 2: did he play At? Oregon, Yes, okay that must have

1631
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 2: happened Last that was THE a came in On. FRIDAY

1632
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 2: i want to.

1633
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 4: Say, okay YEAH i. Didn't he was not here last.

1634
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 4: TIME i was so THAT i heard that name and it.

1635
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 2: Was reiver And oregon did not play With Dylan. Gabriel

1636
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 2: he was Pre Dylan gabriel At. Oregon DeAndre carter running

1637
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 2: nice routes right there and he got.

1638
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 18: Held joe could throw this gorgeous effortless so, easy just

1639
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 18: spins it me, like that's Back good coverage By denzel

1640
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 18: On judy. There, yeah it was that back. Shoulder But

1641
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 18: Andre carter's showing you a little bit more as a

1642
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 18: receiver THAN i. Think maybe we barred for it this

1643
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 18: season over five hundred yards as a member of The,

1644
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 18: chargers and you know he's to be the. Returner but

1645
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 18: it'd be great if you could get something else out

1646
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 18: of them as.

1647
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 2: Well it's good coverage there on the far. Side oh

1648
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 2: got a little. Hold Money brown draws the flag On

1649
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 2: Caden davis. There push ups are, happening BUT i think

1650
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: they didn't need to do it on the offensive. Side

1651
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 2: they got the flag there on the competition. Rep, yeah all,

1652
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 2: right it's gonna be a little. Special teams give a

1653
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: so this might be a.

1654
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 4: Time take a quick time. Out, yeah all, right there you.

1655
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 4: Go we'll continue to paint the. Pictures the final open

1656
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 4: to the public training camp practice of the, year and

1657
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 4: we're seeing some good stuff here. Early look forward to

1658
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 4: the team reps which are going to come a little bit.

1659
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1670
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Speaker 10: Buddy Hello, Fray good to see you guys as.

1671
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 2: Well this is what we've been waiting.

1672
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 4: For could see the kids sling it around a little

1673
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 4: bit because of the the hammies for Both kenny and

1674
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 4: for and For dylan.

1675
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 12: Actually got to See Hammy saturday at the. Ballpark but,

1676
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 12: yes you're talking about these. Hammies what ballpark was that.

1677
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 3: The baseball?

1678
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 12: Park oh, GOSH i forget big, win big Win, saturday pace,

1679
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 12: reguards but yes it. Is, hey, listen it's it's like one,

1680
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 12: day one day, on one day, off one guy, in

1681
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 12: one guy. Out so, yeah shoot or says the arm is,

1682
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 12: fine which is. Reassuring good to hear him on the podium.

1683
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 12: Earlier come back and say we're good and, uh maybe

1684
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 12: some more reps rim now in this red zone drill

1685
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 12: That i'm sure you guys were just talking. About we

1686
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 12: did not see. Him that was All flacco And Kenny.

1687
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 12: Pickett how About Chris coda with the Catch speaking of

1688
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 12: rookies just signed last week with the catch of the.

1689
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 2: Period dylan And shador on the other, end with the

1690
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: tight ends and the running backs doing their red zone

1691
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 2: one on, one so we were not able to really

1692
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 2: kind of don, yeah which was good, work good, Work

1693
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 2: and we'll see today because If chador is gonna, have

1694
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 2: if he's gonna get first team, reps feels like it'll

1695
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 2: be today with these. Injuries if he's, not if he

1696
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 2: doesn't get, them today doesn't feel like it's gonna.

1697
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 12: Happen kevin was asked point, blank you guys heard it

1698
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 12: when he was on the, podium is he gonna get

1699
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,799
Speaker 12: first team? Reps and he basically, said you're at, practice

1700
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 12: wait and. See, Hey i'm here for, it and either,

1701
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,600
Speaker 12: way it's all about what we get In. Carolina so

1702
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 12: like which seems to be a muddy picture right. RIGHT

1703
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 12: i Hope chador comes to. Today, okay Hope gabriel maybe

1704
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 12: the hammy gets a little.

1705
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 10: REST i want to see both.

1706
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 12: Of those guys This. Friday i'm not sure we're going

1707
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 12: to but fingers crossed.

1708
01:19:54,640 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 2: ALL i want to see part of like, today we.

1709
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 14: WILL i don't KNOW i have any inside, knowledge SO

1710
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 14: i can't say this as definitively As i'm about, to

1711
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 14: BUT i would authoritatively say we will See shador with

1712
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 14: the first team, today mainly Because Joe flacco's forty years,

1713
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 14: old eighteen years only we can't run him ragged and

1714
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 14: lose his arm on A.

1715
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 2: Monday all, right seven on seven's right, Here Joe flacco

1716
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 2: with the, ones and that was a great little route

1717
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 2: From harold fannin yep for a nice easy completion over

1718
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 2: the middle for The browns at. Linebacker they No ma mood.

1719
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 2: Diabate so you Got Devin bush And Carson swessngern. There Grant,

1720
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: delpit good to see him back in the team. Drills

1721
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 2: but about, YES i don't know IF i recall ever

1722
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 2: let alone two a quarterback hamstring injury in training.

1723
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:48,719
Speaker 4: Camp, no, no, NO i Mean i'm not keeping track.

1724
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 4: Either but like the other THING i would say, too

1725
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 4: is we're we're kind of in this seven on seven

1726
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 4: phase right, now And joe kind of slings it out

1727
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 4: to chief there for a little.

1728
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 3: Shorty he Wanted lardavan of that deep. Ball had to help.

1729
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 2: Coverage, yeah sure does not have his helmet. On not right.

1730
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 2: Now No flacco is there picking that all four quarterbacks

1731
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 2: are over in the. Area he did Want gauge on

1732
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 2: a deep kind of a go, route, though But denzel

1733
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 2: And delpit had him bracketed checked it down to the,

1734
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 2: Chief David ajoku seven on. Sevens this is not full

1735
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 2: contact we saw On, saturday, Though andrew probably the one

1736
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 2: you talked about it With Denzel. Ward the biggest full

1737
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 2: contact PERIOD i can recall in A Cleveland browns training

1738
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 2: camp In.

1739
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 3: Forever gibbie had the.

1740
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 12: Stopwatch you clocked it at twenty two, minutes right live

1741
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 12: period for twenty two minutes On. Saturday, yeah that's that's

1742
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 12: real tackle.

1743
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 3: Football.

1744
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 12: Absolutely denzel said it felt like a. Half denzel said

1745
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 12: he loved. It denzil also had a really nice pass.

1746
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 12: Breakup we talked about it, there got his hand in

1747
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 12: on a ball to, said you heard What Jim schwartz

1748
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 12: said today, Said i've been coaching for thirty, Years denzel

1749
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 12: is the best Corner i've.

1750
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 2: Had and that is high praise because he's definitely coached

1751
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 2: some good ones in his. Tenure Joe flacco three for

1752
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 2: three kind of here in this early going.

1753
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 14: And effortlessly throwing just artistically perfect spirals right in.

1754
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 12: Rhythm effortlessly and. ARTISTICALLY i love, It, Bernie it's just.

1755
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:15,759
Speaker 12: NATURAL i think he could Just, yeah.

1756
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 1: He's just just so.

1757
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 2: EASY i flato in the shotgun looking to the left. Side. Beautiful,

1758
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,560
Speaker 2: Nice we'll come back To Deontay. Johnson he's somebody.

1759
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 3: THAT i mean that.

1760
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 14: Great, yeah like a strong armed eighteen yard comeback over

1761
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 14: the slot defender throwing it To Deontay johnson at seven

1762
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 14: yards in our seven feet in The Air. Tour Only

1763
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 14: deontay can catch it at fourteen forty years.

1764
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 3: Old it's just spectacular to.

1765
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 12: Watch AM i the only one hoping that he gets

1766
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 12: in the. Game friday Hoof Deontay. Johnson oh, Yeah.

1767
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 2: Carolina oh, yeah, yeah, YES i think HE'S i, mean

1768
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 2: he looks like he absolutely should be featured in our

1769
01:22:56,400 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 2: eleven personnel And judy With nzel draped the throw on the.

1770
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 3: Square.

1771
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely can you Imagine.

1772
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 14: Jontay johnson playing Against carolina motivated like? That if he

1773
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 14: happens to get a backup corner and, PRESS i think

1774
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 14: he'd eat him.

1775
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 3: Alive can you.

1776
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 4: Guys imagine If flacco was twenty? Four, well, yeah he's

1777
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 4: was the first JUMP i, know but like we've been

1778
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 4: searching for that since this. Guy that are like the

1779
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 4: thrill of seeing like a guy fresh and new at twenty,

1780
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 4: three twenty, Four like obviously it's awesome to have him.

1781
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 4: Now but this is obviously the, twilight like the thrill

1782
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 4: of seeing that at twenty, three twenty four and, like my,

1783
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 4: god we got, It Kenny Pickett, now all.

1784
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 2: Right So kenny's in the rip in the. Sevens here's

1785
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 2: eleven on, eleven but in in seven on, seven which

1786
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 2: is more work than we have seen from him the

1787
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 2: last since the.

1788
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 3: Injury it's a step in the right.

1789
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 10: Direction and, Look, Kenny kenny was pretty open On.

1790
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 12: Saturday, yeah like not, angry, frustrated but, Yeah i'm, frustrated

1791
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 12: LIKE i want to be out. There he said he

1792
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 12: had been pressing to do team stuff and they had

1793
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 12: told him pull it.

1794
01:23:58,520 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 3: Back, yeah don't do.

1795
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 14: It so one of the THINGS i, Say alaw is

1796
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 14: us players we have to be help ourselves from. Ourselves

1797
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 14: and even THOUGH i Love kenny's, effort he wants to

1798
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 14: get out there faster than probably the team. Does and

1799
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 14: he saw even on his throat he's a little low

1800
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 14: and that's coming from probably not overstride in his hamstrand.

1801
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 2: He, wanted Said tillman on a double move there and

1802
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 2: probably should have thrown got a flag, anyway holding on

1803
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 2: the defense Because Chris edmonds was caught out of position

1804
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 2: and just grab.

1805
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 12: Him he had a little head and shoulder fake on

1806
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 12: that deep. Shot he had said that he had told

1807
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 12: the coaches or or the, trainers, look just put me in.

1808
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 12: THERE i won't move in the. Pocket i'm Gonna i'm

1809
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 12: gonna be.

1810
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 2: Station and they, said, no, nope, no you gotta save

1811
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 2: you from yourself in that scenario. Exactly that's not a

1812
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 2: realistic your instincts, kicking but he.

1813
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 14: Understood to use that one with a bad, ankle and

1814
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 14: your intentions are to do that until you're in the

1815
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 14: middle of play and bullets are.

1816
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 10: Flat, Well, bernie we had to take the zone read a,

1817
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 10: game zone read game from.

1818
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 3: You of course you had you had that club in your, bag.

1819
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 2: Right of, course nice deep comeback right there From Kenny

1820
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 2: pickett talking about driving the, Ball bernie To Caden. Davis

1821
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 2: that was that same throw That placo made And Kenny

1822
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 2: pickett had nice velocity on. It and you talk about

1823
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 2: getting the ball up and down, quickly got it up

1824
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 2: kind of where we'd be over, that but then down

1825
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 2: to the, receiver get that spiral the nose to turn.

1826
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 2: Over so so Far flacco And pickets getting all the

1827
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 2: reps in this seven on seven, period looking For harold

1828
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 2: fan on that. Corner it's a good placement on that

1829
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:37,719
Speaker 2: one that it Was Rayshawn jenkins is going to undercut

1830
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 2: that by just buy a fingertip over that. One i'm

1831
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 2: telling you right, Now Harold fannin has, been if not

1832
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 2: the most impressive player on offense this. Camp he certainly

1833
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 2: has been one of those that have stood Out bernie

1834
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 2: and that when you get a guy with that kind of,

1835
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 2: size that kind of route running ability and those, hands

1836
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 2: he ends up becoming a quarterback's best. Friend, well if

1837
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 2: you wanted the reps for shador or come back another.

1838
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 2: Day Dylen abriel now up third up here with, it

1839
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 2: so he's battling. It this is a little strange, though

1840
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 2: right he. WASN'T i thought the thing was he wasn't

1841
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 2: doing this. WELL i guess maybe there he even said

1842
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 2: he would be.

1843
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 3: Limited.

1844
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 2: Huh, way that was a heck of a ball The

1845
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 2: Deontay johnson and a great catch By Deontay. Johnson that's

1846
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:19,560
Speaker 2: Where dylan had Struggled bernie over the middle of the.

1847
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 2: Field he'd been missing high too. Often now seven on

1848
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 2: seven is a lot different than when you've got The,

1849
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 2: lineman AND i think his vision at times had been

1850
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 2: a bit of a, problem but that was a good.

1851
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 2: Throw Deontay, Johnson i've seen, Like i've seen. Enough he's

1852
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 2: as long as he's being what he needs to, be

1853
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 2: not between the white. Lines, yeah in the white, lines

1854
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 2: he's probably our second best receiver right now or certainly

1855
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 2: right there was said where that's your eleven personnel. Grouping.

1856
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,879
Speaker 14: Yeah to add on To, Deontay, god what a gorgeous

1857
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 14: hands catch, too with those white gloves is sticking up

1858
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:52,480
Speaker 14: and strongly grasping that With denzel.

1859
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 3: War draped on his.

1860
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 4: Back you're Mentioning fan AND z like he needs to Be, Yes,

1861
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 4: yeah he needs to be a dude we don't. Have

1862
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 4: we need to have him be a real, weapon especially

1863
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 4: a really Good we can't figure out the number two wide.

1864
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 3: Receiver. Sorry, Right and to add, IN i was.

1865
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 14: Trying to be quiet During nathan's beautiful description to him

1866
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 14: being one of the most dominant offensive guys he has.

1867
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 14: Been i've been trying to think of more, perlatives different

1868
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 14: words to say the same.

1869
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 8: Thing every day he does something he absolutely needs to

1870
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 8: be on the field With david a joke who causing

1871
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 8: issues it's.

1872
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 4: Interesting, YEAH i mean this is this is what four

1873
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 4: reps For dylan, yep now or has his helmet on it.

1874
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 2: Least so they went all the way through.

1875
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 4: With flacco and Then pickett got some and Now dylan

1876
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 4: now looks like is going to come out now as

1877
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 4: the fourth quarterback.

1878
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 2: Out, yeah so that's kind of consistent what it's. Been

1879
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 2: that is what it has, been and it is apparently

1880
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 2: what will be. Now if there is a period Where

1881
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 2: shador could maybe get a first team reper, to it'll

1882
01:27:58,040 --> 01:27:59,719
Speaker 2: have to be in the eleven on, eleven the full

1883
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 2: eam portions of. It but that was a good session

1884
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 2: right there For Dylan. Gabrie a couple of checkdowns at

1885
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 2: the end and one that was a little, errant but

1886
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 2: the throw To Deontay johnson was one of the best

1887
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 2: throws he's.

1888
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 3: Made, yep.

1889
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 2: Quick and. Decisive they're From. Shador that's your, guy Sal,

1890
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 2: is That's. Salcnela it is big eighty seven and they've

1891
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 2: had a good connection so far in the problem number.

1892
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 10: Four in your depth charted tight end right, yeah, yeah.

1893
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 2: He And Brendan bates probably competing for that fourth tight

1894
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 2: end spot if there is to be. One most likely

1895
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 2: that'll be a spot that is on the practice squad

1896
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 2: but involved in what you're. Doing, oh we got out

1897
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 2: That Floria Keshawn johnson out to the.

1898
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 3: Left johnson looked good in the red zone drills earlier as.

1899
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 2: Well he's a big he's got a big. Body, Yeah

1900
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 2: flora in a short motion coming across.

1901
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:51,600
Speaker 14: It.

1902
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 5: Oh just.

1903
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 3: McDonald oh had a.

1904
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 2: Step, oh he had a step that would have got

1905
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 2: that would have brought the place would have come on.

1906
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 12: Glued, yeah Because kate, McDonald it'll be running right into

1907
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 12: the weight room right.

1908
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 3: Now he would that doors, closed so hopefully grips he would.

1909
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:13,759
Speaker 2: Have come right, yeah right at, him you, know. Electric

1910
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 2: hopefully he wouldn't get electrocuted with you.

1911
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 3: All, yeah of course you want to run with those.

1912
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 8: Two he wants to complete that.

1913
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,719
Speaker 14: Baby but for having his tired arm or a sore,

1914
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 14: arm he had a lot of life in that.

1915
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 5: Throw.

1916
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 2: Right that was cool to.

1917
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 8: See you don't want to, overthrow but at least.

1918
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 2: That's WHAT i was gonna, Say, right isn't the rule

1919
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 2: if they have to stop to catch, it if they're

1920
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 2: if they're. Open, now that wasn't one where it was

1921
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 2: a busted coverage and he's so white up and where

1922
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 2: it's just make you don't overthrow. Him that was he

1923
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 2: was trying to get a perfect ball in, there just

1924
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 2: missed it again checking it down on the crosser To DeAndre.

1925
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 2: Carter that's what you want to, see, though push the

1926
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 2: ball down the. Field you want to hit that. One

1927
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 2: that's What i'm sure he's gonna want back is when

1928
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:55,560
Speaker 2: you get what. Threeps, man he got one, shot you

1929
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 2: want to hit it solid session, Though, really, honestly for

1930
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:00,759
Speaker 2: ALL i thought all the quarterbacks right pretty.

1931
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 12: Good, agree especially considering you mentioned the nice ball From

1932
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 12: gabriel To. Judy that has been one of those that

1933
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 12: he is airmailed more than once in camp so.

1934
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 2: Far, yeah that over the middle, throw and that's. That

1935
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 2: you can't overthrows tips and overthrows in the middle of

1936
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 2: the field are.

1937
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 4: Problematic the next level is gonna be able to paint

1938
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,719
Speaker 4: what happens next are We we're gonna get eleven, eleven

1939
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 4: so we're gonna be a little bit of. That we're

1940
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 4: short on, time but keep it right here on eight

1941
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:30,680
Speaker 4: FIFTY Espn. Cleveland next level is gonna be able to

1942
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:32,560
Speaker 4: tell you what's all happening. Here and this is the

1943
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Speaker 4: one that you were thinking if there was a, chance

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Speaker 4: this is where should or would be able to maybe

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Speaker 4: get a rep or two would be in this mix

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Speaker 4: here in the team.

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Speaker 2: Drills so we'll see if if that is the.

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Speaker 4: Case BUT i you, know you saw Both pickett And

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Speaker 4: gabriel throw in that seven on seven, sessions so who

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Speaker 4: knows what's gonna what's gonna come?

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Speaker 2: Here looks Like Tevin jenkins this. One quick. Note Tevin

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Speaker 2: jenkins in at right. Guard SO i don't know If

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Speaker 2: Wyatt teller's getting a veteran day off or if we miss.

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Speaker 2: Something he's standing back with the coaches area's helmet. On

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Speaker 2: But jenkins is in at right, tackle a right guard.

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Speaker 2: Here wyatt's out, too isn't? He that's, yeah he's in For.

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Speaker 2: Wyatt oh yeah yeah in.

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Speaker 10: Four, yea and Again isaiah McGuire's in the.

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Speaker 2: Backfield, yeah forced flat go to throw it away.

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Speaker 14: There, yeah probably a smart idea and maybe possibly rest

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Speaker 14: some of the offensive defensive linemen heading Into. Carolina their

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Speaker 14: life will be very aggressive the next few. Days so

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Speaker 14: let's say their contact for the other, team not our.

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Speaker 4: Guys all, right there you. Go the next level is

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Speaker 4: Next this has been. Fun thanks for, Listenbody Cleveland Bruns,

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