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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Smantha and a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 2: I've never told you your production of iHeartRadio, and today we

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Speaker 2: have a very short Maybe these things can go off

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Speaker 2: the rails all the time, but I think.

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Speaker 1: It will be short. You're really caring.

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Speaker 2: Us here, you know, while we're in this together. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we have a Monday mini for you. It is one

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Speaker 2: of the last episodes of the year. If you're listening

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Speaker 2: to this when it comes out, it is Christmas Day,

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Speaker 2: if you celebrate or whatever you do. Hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're doing just fine.

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Speaker 1: Happy Christmas.

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Speaker 2: If you're spending time listening to us at this, we

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Speaker 2: appreciate you. We appreciate you, and this is sort of

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Speaker 2: our goodbye twenty twenty three. What did we like this

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Speaker 2: year that happened? It's going to be a very light episode,

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Speaker 2: but I want to start off Okay, First of all,

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Speaker 2: we are very, very very grateful to all of you listeners.

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Speaker 2: This happens because of you. You are wonderful when you

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Speaker 2: write to us, when you communicate with us. I was

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Speaker 2: answering some listener mail to day and it just cracked

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Speaker 2: me up about how specific a niche A lot of

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Speaker 2: it is, which is on point, how we are. I

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Speaker 2: love it so so thank you. We do really appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Another thing, when I look back on twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: I think I will remember it as the very fuzzy, vague,

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Speaker 2: stressed here where we published a book.

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Speaker 1: Right, yes, we hurried along to publish a book and

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Speaker 1: then it just kind of fizzled.

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Speaker 2: It's strange because they the company, the publisher, sen says,

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Speaker 2: so many copies. Uh, by so many, I mean like

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Speaker 2: twenty But that's a lot of copy staff of one book.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just trying to figure out what to do

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Speaker 2: with them because I did kind of make my friends,

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Speaker 2: thank you friends buy them, so now I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: think of like where can I donate them or give

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Speaker 2: in my apartment that it's already quite cluttered somehow.

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Speaker 1: Right too, definitely under boxes like other boxes, Like it's

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Speaker 1: just like random just sitting in the side because I'm like,

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Speaker 1: the pre order stuff, the draft versions of the arc.

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Speaker 1: It's literally like we got ten of those, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't give those out because they have

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Speaker 1: It's quite sunny because, yeah, the people that I would

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Speaker 1: people who I would want I don't want to give

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Speaker 1: but I'm like, I might give it to them, and

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Speaker 1: it feels kind of conceited it here shout here's my book.

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Speaker 2: You're totally right. It does feel that way, and it

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Speaker 2: also feels strange, like because they totally get it. The

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Speaker 2: so my friends are were in a position they could

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Speaker 2: to you, right, I don't know how I feel about that,

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Speaker 1: And we know that a lot of listeners have let

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Speaker 1: we very much appreciate you so much, but yeah, it

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Speaker 2: But I do appreciate, uh, the experience Samantha and I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I missed them. I missed them too, I really do.

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Speaker 2: And it was just nice to work on such a

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Speaker 1: We're still friends because we've you know, things can happen,

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Speaker 2: It was, and I think a lot of listeners can

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Speaker 1: Right make up by you? Yeah, as professional as she was,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that has been an interesting experience. Again,

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Speaker 1: We're fine, it'll be fine. Everything's fine.

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Speaker 2: Holiday celebrations are just if you're just bunkering down, which

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