WEBVTT - Fat Joe Need's To Shut Up & Apologize & More Pt 1 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:01.960 It's some stuff that I would like to talk about it. 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.600 I want to talk about that Eight may not necessarily 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:07.480 want to get involved in. And I can understand that 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:09.760 because Eight is want of them down the middle type 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:12.480 of guys, you know what I mean. That's cool. Yeah, 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:14.560 that's who that's who is. That's who he is. So 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.560 I like to excuse him and don't make him involved, 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:19.360 you know, get some respect. You know. 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:25.160 Yeah, he's a gangster chronically politically correct diplomatic, so he 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:27.960 liked like I am on the peace treaty side of 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.480 the game. You know, you want to just be cool, 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:32.440 you know what I'm saying. I don't want to make 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:34.640 no more enemies than I already made in the past. 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.720 So that's that's where brother can come in. And there's 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.600 nothing wrong with that. But I'm one of them type 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:42.360 of dudes that don't give a damn about none of 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:46.720 these people. So I'm come to say anyway, and if 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:48.879 they don't like it, that's just too bad. You know. 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:50.800 If they want to have a rebuttal they don't want 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.239 to workom to come home or go on whoever platform 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:55.440 and talk about it. But what I want do I'll 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:56.760 never direspect my buddy. 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.640 Yeah, it's just truth. Like you know, I'm saying, I 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.840 don't care about feelings. I care about the dudes and 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.840 the females. But if I'm telling the truth, then they 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:09.399 got a problem with the truth, then I don't care 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:09.840 about that. 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:12.200 Yeah, I just tell the truth. I'm out of down 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.320 the middle guy because I think with it Els Campson 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:19.880 sound got older. Man, I just don't have too many 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:21.120 more fucks to give. Man. 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:23.760 Yeah. Man, you know when we was little and we 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.080 used to look up to the little forty and fifty 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.520 year old grandfathers and all of that or even older, 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.160 like they didn't have no filter no more. They was 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.160 close to meeting the lords. So they ain't want nothing down. 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.160 They just they just shoot from the hip, real raw. 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:37.199 So that's what we're doing. 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.640 Yeah, for real. If I don't like something, I'm speak 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.080 on it. Man. If I don't like somebody, I may 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.400 not speak on you know. If it's something that's real 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:47.720 personal to me, I may not speak man. But if 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:51.200 you put your stuff out there for public assumption, yeah, 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:55.640 or opening yourself up to somebody's opinion, somebody having an 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.080 opinion about me, I don't give a fuck. But they 0:01:58.120 --> 0:01:59.960 may have an opinion about me, and they free to 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:04.400 exercise of opinion. But speaking of opinions, man I saw 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:11.799 some other day, man, fact Joe really oldes black black's 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:16.640 in this country in the policy right now, Man, I 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:17.960 definitely agree. 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:22.520 He probably won't because he may feel like that. That 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:24.480 type of language. You know, he been using it all 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:30.160 his life. But times change. Just like you know, all 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.760 these sayings now, whether it's the LGBT community, all that 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:35.360 stuff used to be fair game. 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.080 We used to be able to say this f the 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:37.720 F word. 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.600 We used to Eddie Murphy used to make whole routine 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.120 bits this in the F word and all that, but 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.520 now you can't say it. So since we're getting restricted 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:50.080 about that, then you know, everybody gonna have to get restricted. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.800 You know, we're gonna have to redistribute this whole pain game. 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.360 So if we get censored, you get censored. 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.080 Yeah, well, you know what the thing is, I gotta 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:02.600 put this disclaim rock there first and foremost. I'm messing 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:06.280 fact Joe's music. You know, we got me and you 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:10.440 both got mutually, you know, mutiful aquaintances. You know, talk 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.720 to Homie Mugs, you know, mac one O and all 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:16.000 them people that you know they love we cracked Fat Joe, 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.320 but he was on Math Horford Show man. I guess 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.400 he had an issue with the homie to riding the 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.320 sheet in his platform. You know, the whole FBA thing, 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.120 which I won't get into, is that right, there's a 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:29.720 whole other level of just. 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.000 I get into it though. That's what you got here 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.240 a lot. You know, we could talk about a little bit, 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:36.560 but you know, he went on there. Man. 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.040 Was one of the things that I didn't like, man, 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:43.800 was the whole just whenever you get to call on 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.480 people radicals and all that other stuff. Man, those are 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:50.640 like dog whistles for the alphabet boys. Man. Yeah, racist 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:54.760 if you're saying the extremists or racist. Yeah. And you 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:56.680 know when you get to talking that way about a 0:03:56.720 --> 0:04:00.080 group instead of choosing the use of the language, it 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:01.320 can get kind of ugly. 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:01.600 Man. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:03.720 You know, we saw that, and Man, you could start, 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:05.600 you know, getting people took. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:12.360 Out in every level, like you said, economically, socially, politically, 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:13.160 or physically. 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:16.000 It can lead to all of that. It can lead 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:16.640 to all of that. 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:17.000 Man. 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:22.960 And since that Joe might have had some you know, 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.000 kind of frustration, you could tell you had a lot 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.839 of frustration built up. One of the things that I 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:29.760 didn't like because it didn't have to go that far. 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.000 If math haff Facilly ass w were have said something, 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.839 maybe they could have diverted. All you got to do 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.279 is switch it to another subject. You feel what I'm saying. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.960 Yeah, but I still think because of the climate that 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:46.120 we're living in, and it's this this hyper sensitivity like 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:49.080 everything is a hate word or something, that. 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.080 He still would have caught. He still would have caught 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:51.839 the same flag. 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.840 Even if math Hoffer would have tried to hurry up 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.280 and go to something else, unless he edited that part out, 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.120 he was still gonna catch the same heat. 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.279 Would have edited out. Man. Yeah, I would have too. Yeah, 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.760 I would have too. I would have deleted that part 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:07.680 because it's a whole lot of stuff on this show 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:11.000 man that people neverw if had we've had gifts on 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:14.320 to see things that could either incriminate them or get 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.080 somebody else some trouble. That I made a decision like, 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:18.560 you know what, man, it is going to cut that 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.359 little five ten minutes off. You know, even though it 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:23.320 might have got a lot of attention, that just some 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:25.120 all attention. 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:28.400 Ain't good, bro, Nah, all attention ain't good All money 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.200 ain't good money. And that's what we're dealing with right now. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.320 This is the proof of it. And this is the 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.440 proof of it, man. And like I said, this ain't 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:40.200 no personal attack against Joe, but he needs to apologize. 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.640 Bro. He might not do it, you know, but he 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.640 needs to. He should. Yeah. 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:48.760 And apparently he took a personal attack against Tarik and 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.679 Lord Jamar, so he making it personal. 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:52.440 I think they was. 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.720 Just speaking up on trying to defend the originators or 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:56.960 the creators of hip hop. 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:01.520 And since so what that's for all this is coming from, Yeah, 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.520 it's from all of this. It was from them saying 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:07.400 that Puerto Ricans had no involvement in the emphasy states 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:08.000 hip hop. 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:11.400 Well not the EMPHASI saying, but the origination. They definitely 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.039 had a part and contributed and the emfasy and the 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.240 growth of it. But they're saying who originated it? So 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:21.320 originated it of course as the black descendants of slaves. 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:25.279 But I guess so much pride and ego and some 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:32.239 prior claims that KRS Won and Buster Rhymes and Fat 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.920 Joe and some people from like New York City. I 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:37.760 don't know if it's New York City Breakers, Crazy Legs 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.400 and some other people that was claiming that it was 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:45.280 the fifty to fifty Cold Originator Equal Creators or something 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:50.680 like that. So Tariq Nashi made a documentary and brought 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.560 all kind of receipts and all kinds of eyewitnesses that 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:57.679 was there and debunked that claim. And so I guess 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:03.000 that made Fat Joe feel stupid or made him look 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:06.520 bad in the public. So he you know, he's clapping back. Personally, 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:10.160 he definitely went to your personal and said some personal stuff. 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:13.480 So in his personal rant against one or two people, 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:19.000 or or he just just f bomb the whole FBA 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.720 organization or whatever that is. So that's where he let 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.080 his emotions get him in high water. 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:30.680 Yeah, the emotions could be a motherfucker sometimes. Yeah, emotions, 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.920 you know, I think, man, what he should have done, man, 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:36.920 is is you see what Tarik is doing. Man, Trek 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:38.880 is kind of taking the whole player, right about the 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:42.520 whole thing, just like whatever. Yeah, and he can do that. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.920 Tarik is smarter or wiser. I should say he's wiser, 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.040 you know what I'm saying, He's slicker. You know, he 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.440 got that detailed pimp game that p game that you know, 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.480 he know how to run on your on your mind 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.120 and and put some bait out there and see if 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.360 you're gonna buy it at it. So dude and a 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:01.160 couple of other dude bit at it. So now he 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.560 can clown them. But I don't agree with the childish 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.280 roasting and all of that, And that's what really is 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:10.240 stirring up some unnecessary beats between the communities. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:14.800 But specially when you sit up there, man and get 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.120 the call and people broke and all that. I used 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.880 always looked at that man as somebody being in a 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:24.720 list lazy anyway, when they just oh, well you broke. Yeah, 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.560 some people choose to be brown, you feel what I'm saying. 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:32.600 And then especially when you don't know what Tarik's financial 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:36.720 status is, right, And I think, but he didn't just 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:37.319 say t is. 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.679 But he didn't just say He didn't just say to Rek, 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.360 So I'm saying he didn't even mention Tik's. Now he 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.160 was more mad at Lord Jamar, so he I think 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.360 he was taking a shot at Lord Jamar when he 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:52.840 was saying broke fba, you know what I'm saying, Because 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:54.720 he didn't even he didn't even he chose not to 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.120 say Treik who is supposed to be the leader of 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.640 that term, even though they're trying to say that he's 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.680 not the but he's the leader of that term. Whoever 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:06.040 thought of that term is the leader by default. Because 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:07.800 I heard Shoe says, I don't want to mix the 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.520 dude's name. I'm gonna tell you, man to read the 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:15.079 sheet has a pretty substantial fellow. Absolutely, Man, he's a leader, 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.960 even though he even though he say he don't want 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.360 to be a leader, he ain't a leaders as bs. 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.439 He is a leader. You're a leader of the prayer. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.080 I would almost man be remiss to say that. You know, 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.719 while he's not a celebrity like Shoe to Wreak, the 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:33.199 shee might have as many people writing for him as 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:37.760 Joe do, probably more. I think you tommobilize more people 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.319 than show if he wanted to right now, are you 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:48.400 he can mobilize the people pleasure too, Yeah, because of 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:49.000 the cause. 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:52.719 If Toak, even though he in entertainment or he's doing documentaries, 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.160 but his documentary is an entertainment that's still representing the 0:09:56.240 --> 0:10:00.680 accomplishments of the general Black mass is a the descendants 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.559 of slaves. So Yeah, he could organize, and he has 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.959 as far as I know, he organized a few like 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:09.520 little marches or something like that. So yeah, he definitely 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.200 could move some people. But I don't. I don't like 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.520 how to with the inspiration or the motivation of the 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:19.480 movement is against It's not against the slave master. It's 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.679 just it's against a fellow brother. 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:24.160 Tribe of. 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.440 Indigenous people that's also victims of the same snake that 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:30.000 bid us. 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:31.760 So I don't that's the part I don't. I don't like. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.400 I don't like that. And that's the thing I would because, 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.600 like I said, Tarika has been on our show before. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.680 Men was cool. You know, me and Jerik talk every 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.120 once in a while. We don't talk every day, but 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:44.080 me and him text back and forth sometimes. And that's 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.080 one of the things I would like to sit down 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:50.040 and talk to him about Man one day. Is that 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:51.560 was one of the things when you know, when I 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.599 was checking out, I thought it was dupe. You know, 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.439 the whole foundation look like I like that, you know 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.680 what I mean? It gives us all right, din you 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:04.320 so to speak right, But the whole thing is when 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.840 you get this separating all it because I'm gonna tell 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.720 you this cam. This is the thing. Man, if you 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:16.080 took an FB a foundational Black American that you're making 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.839 un let's say a brother from Nigeria, right, and he 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:21.640 put him in a room in front of a klansman. 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.440 If you ask that klansman what he sees, he's not 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.160 gonna say, I'll see a foundational Black American, a Jamaican 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:33.199 and American. He's gonna say, I see three niggas, right. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.520 I don't think that. Yeah, I don't think that's the argument. 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:40.520 The argument ain't about current what the current uh what 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:45.560 uh the colonizer currently sees. The argument is about what 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:49.720 has happened to the specific people already and what we're old, 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:52.559 like reparations. You know what I'm saying, Based on what 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:56.319 we're old, what does this the people that's supposed to 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.360 be paying our reparation see, he's gonna see it the 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.120 same way, like we don't want them to see uh 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:05.240 Jamaican and the Nigeria or whatever the same way. If 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.760 it's about what we're old. So Tarika is a thousand 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:12.800 percent correct on that, but it's still about, like I said, 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:16.120 the comedic or the roasting and the bagging and all that. 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:20.080 Like you can't mix that with this subject and older Kim. 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.720 I want to clear it up too. I'm not here 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.320 to defate none of this, you know, stuff wrong with 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.640 the RIK got going on because I'm just not getting 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:30.200 verse and all that. And I don't want to make 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.600 it like I'm attacking them. It's just certain questions that 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.400 I asked, you know what I mean. Yeah, this is 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:38.600 no attack. I agree. People don't like listening nowadays. Bro, 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:40.960 they take some stuff you see, and they go back. 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:43.320 Oh man, Cam and Steele was on there talking about 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.280 the fka't makes things. You know, they don't our head. 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.320 I ain't worried about nobody be on my head, like 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.080 I said, Oh, I don't care. 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.839 I'm here for all the smoke. But I'm just saying 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:56.680 not no one necessary stuff, especially not against snow fighters out. 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.240 I feel like Tika now she has, you know, got 0:12:59.240 --> 0:12:59.880 a good thing going. 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:00.320 Man. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.800 I don't think it's necessarily a bad man. Yeah. 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:06.199 I think he's raising the consciousness in a new modern way. 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.680 But you know, like I said, certain certain the spirit 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:15.760 behind it, a certain tactics, certain ways of him retaliating 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:21.040 against uh trolls or against c I A coin tail 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.960 pro people that's gonna that's gonna attack him a certain way. 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:25.840 And they might call. 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:30.720 Themselves Jamaican or Nigerian or Puerto Rican, they might be 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:36.199 straight troll Feds, CIA, cointail pro whatever. But he they 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.720 baited him into retaliating against the whole people in a 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.839 certain type of disrespectful or childish kind of way, which 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.920 now he bit out of bait that somebody wiser than 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.560 him might have set him up to respond the wrong 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.720 way to where now every you know, the whole Puerto 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:58.240 Rican or whole non non descendative slave blacks is, you know, 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.280 looking at us a certain kind of That's the thing, bro. 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.040 I'm all with people having dialogue, right, we all ain't 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.080 agree on everything, but I think when you get to 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.200 being lazy man and you know, start trying to you know, hole, 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.840 oh y'all, broke, y'all, you know what, then I'm gonna 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:15.720 tell you this. And I'm not a hypocrite. 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:15.920 Man. 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.280 I used the N word way more than I should, 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.560 especially in that you know, me knowing the history behind 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:23.600 the ugly ass word. 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:24.560 Uh. 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.520 I was kind of looking at fact Joe like he's 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:29.800 really comfortable saying that. 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:34.280 Man, Hey, that's our fault. Because we made uncomfortable saying that. 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.840 So if we're not out raised at us saying that 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.760 against each other, it ain't nowhere in hell and sane 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.360 reality that we should be out raised at him exactly. 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.840 And that's why I said, I don't like being a hypocrite. 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.280 You feel what I'm saying. Hypocrite. That's clearly a hypocrite, 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:50.960 and that don't work in real life. 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:55.440 You can have all kinds of insane, unreasonable ieological rules 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:59.480 that work in your own household, among other traumatized the 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:01.760 sentences of slaves, that makes sense, and you just trying 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.320 to respect your mom or your daddy because hey, mom 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.160 and daddy, but that shit don't work when you step 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.960 outside into the real world, they gonna judge you by 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.800 real laws of hypocrisy and real laws of justice. So 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.680 you taught we taught them it was okay to call 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:18.520 us nigga because we call each other nigga. 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:24.280 So and I'm sure man being raised in the Bronx, Yeah, 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.520 they grew up with that. That's not no strange word. 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:28.320 It's just he used it. 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.800 He got baited in, just like I think Tarit got 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.560 baited in by trolls from the Jamaican community or whoever 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:39.400 that's probably saying some foul stuff to him, but he gotta, 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.360 he gotta, he got a name, so when he responds, 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.160 he gonna catch more heat than anybody else exactly. 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.400 And see, that's my thing right there. I have heard, 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.680 I've had, you know, knowing making people that feel like 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.560 they don't have nothing to do with us, and and 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.360 I've met that. But I've met other Jamaican people that's like, 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:02.360 you know, were black, you feel. I've met people from Africa, 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.000 d I don't have anything to do with uniquers, Yeah, 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:11.680 and but I've met other African people. So I'm not 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.560 quick to generalize everybody and looked everybody into the same. 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:16.760 Everybody ain't in bed together, you feel what I mean? 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:21.360 Everybody had they own and everybody have their own opinions 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.760 based on their own experiences. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:26.760 with the experience to see it is. I just learned 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.160 man a long time ago out I really don't like 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.440 generalizing people. Yeah. 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:35.040 And Tigain, you know, he real intelligent and you know 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.200 when whenever I listened to him, he able to defend 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:39.920 his argument. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.600 But it's just once you start going into the name 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:44.440 calling and the memes and. 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:48.920 The unnecessary insulting because somebody insulting you, then. 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.560 It goes downhill. Now you just. 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.200 Invalidated your whole argument. You got a righteous cause or 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.720 righteous movement or whatever. But you are the leader of it. 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.080 You can't say you not the leader of it. You 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.359 are the leader of it. People come to us say, okay, 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.240 where did you Why did you say f DA and 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:10.800 not NBA like doctor Claude Anderson, are not uh d 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:14.440 fs like the honor boy Lodje Muhammad. So you are 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.720 the leader of that term, and you the leader of 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:17.760 the definition of it. 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.760 You the leader of the popularization of it. So you 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:22.719 got to you gotta take all of that, you know 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:23.439 that come with it. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.600 You have to be more mature than you are when 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:28.920 it comes to your ops or your critics. 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:33.359 Yeah. Well you know what though, can you ain't never talked? 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:35.160 Have you ever met him? Yeah? 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.320 Yeah, I didn't meet him in person, but I hollered 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.400 that he met UH by way of glasses. Glasses got 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.800 me him and me, me and Tarik on the phone 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.360 about some issue that happened a couple of years ago, 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.280 or something about UH. Something was going on at power 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:50.120 or they were trying to do a march or protest 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.080 at Power one oh six or something like that. So 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:55.800 we talked about an issue similar to this before so 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:57.560 and was it was real respectful? 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.680 You know what I'm saying. It was real, real mutual 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:00.399 love respect. 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:04.000 He is a cool brother. Tarika's school as hell man. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.240 I mean I'm a fan of him. I'm a fan 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.960 of his personality. I'm a fan of him clown and 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.080 like I love how he rose and he clown and 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.960 he But when it's about a subject like this where 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:18.480 it's representing us like this, like it's black in black 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:22.119 versus black, I ain't with that. Like, you got to 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:26.800 be more responsible than that. And I'm gonna tell you this, man, 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.600 he came up with a brilliant movie. You know, he's 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.600 the most all the movies and documentary. I'm a fan 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:36.080 of all of that. 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.960 Yeah, you know, he's he's very dope, man. And when 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:43.000 you're doing something man that's going to uplift the culture, man, 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:47.760 especially when you talk about Black Americans, right, just you know, 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.240 tain the history that we've had in this country. Man, 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:52.960 whenever we do something that's excellent, we should all be 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.600 out there applaud you feel what I'm saying. So I 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.879 think this is a very ambitious undertaking man. He has 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.399 to take a very seriou you're saying to me, he 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:05.480 should have brothers like yourself, you know, brothers that got 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:07.680 the right mindset for that type of stuff to maybe 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:09.680 come in to help, you know, mold that man. 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:12.840 Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm always open for that, 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:15.320 and I'm always opening and I'm a team player. It's 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:19.320 just I'm a g I don't know how old Tariq is. 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:21.520 You know, I'm fifty five, so I don't know if 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:21.880 we're the. 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:25.640 Same age, but I know he has had a like. 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:29.480 Resa Risa Islam, which is, you know, twenty maybe thirty 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:32.120 years younger than me, twenty years young like, So it's 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:35.119 a youth. You know, youth moves the revolution. So I 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:38.840 understand him going at the youth. But wise men in 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:42.560 generals and you know, geez and all that is supposed 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:44.080 to be for counsel, you don't you know, you don't 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.439 really supposed to run out there and represent this without 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:50.320 necessarily having the blessings of the counsel of people that 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:54.200