Speaker 1: It's some stuff that I would like to talk about it.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about that Eight may not necessarily
Speaker 1: want to get involved in. And I can understand that
Speaker 1: because Eight is want of them down the middle type
Speaker 1: of guys, you know what I mean. That's cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's who that's who is. That's who he is. So
Speaker 1: I like to excuse him and don't make him involved,
Speaker 1: you know, get some respect. You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a gangster chronically politically correct diplomatic, so he
Speaker 2: liked like I am on the peace treaty side of
Speaker 2: the game. You know, you want to just be cool,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I don't want to make
Speaker 2: no more enemies than I already made in the past.
Speaker 1: So that's that's where brother can come in. And there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. But I'm one of them type
Speaker 1: of dudes that don't give a damn about none of
Speaker 1: these people. So I'm come to say anyway, and if
Speaker 1: they don't like it, that's just too bad. You know.
Speaker 1: If they want to have a rebuttal they don't want
Speaker 1: to workom to come home or go on whoever platform
Speaker 1: and talk about it. But what I want do I'll
Speaker 1: never direspect my buddy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just truth. Like you know, I'm saying, I
Speaker 2: don't care about feelings. I care about the dudes and
Speaker 2: the females. But if I'm telling the truth, then they
Speaker 2: got a problem with the truth, then I don't care
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just tell the truth. I'm out of down
Speaker 1: the middle guy because I think with it Els Campson
Speaker 1: sound got older. Man, I just don't have too many
Speaker 1: more fucks to give. Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, you know when we was little and we
Speaker 2: used to look up to the little forty and fifty
Speaker 2: year old grandfathers and all of that or even older,
Speaker 2: like they didn't have no filter no more. They was
Speaker 2: close to meeting the lords. So they ain't want nothing down.
Speaker 2: They just they just shoot from the hip, real raw.
Speaker 2: So that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for real. If I don't like something, I'm speak
Speaker 1: on it. Man. If I don't like somebody, I may
Speaker 1: not speak on you know. If it's something that's real
Speaker 1: personal to me, I may not speak man. But if
Speaker 1: you put your stuff out there for public assumption, yeah,
Speaker 1: or opening yourself up to somebody's opinion, somebody having an
Speaker 1: opinion about me, I don't give a fuck. But they
Speaker 1: may have an opinion about me, and they free to
Speaker 1: exercise of opinion. But speaking of opinions, man I saw
Speaker 1: some other day, man, fact Joe really oldes black black's
Speaker 1: in this country in the policy right now, Man, I
Speaker 1: definitely agree.
Speaker 2: He probably won't because he may feel like that. That
Speaker 2: type of language. You know, he been using it all
Speaker 2: his life. But times change. Just like you know, all
Speaker 2: these sayings now, whether it's the LGBT community, all that
Speaker 2: stuff used to be fair game.
Speaker 1: We used to be able to say this f the
Speaker 1: F word.
Speaker 2: We used to Eddie Murphy used to make whole routine
Speaker 2: bits this in the F word and all that, but
Speaker 2: now you can't say it. So since we're getting restricted
Speaker 2: about that, then you know, everybody gonna have to get restricted.
Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna have to redistribute this whole pain game.
Speaker 2: So if we get censored, you get censored.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know what the thing is, I gotta
Speaker 1: put this disclaim rock there first and foremost. I'm messing
Speaker 1: fact Joe's music. You know, we got me and you
Speaker 1: both got mutually, you know, mutiful aquaintances. You know, talk
Speaker 1: to Homie Mugs, you know, mac one O and all
Speaker 1: them people that you know they love we cracked Fat Joe,
Speaker 1: but he was on Math Horford Show man. I guess
Speaker 1: he had an issue with the homie to riding the
Speaker 1: sheet in his platform. You know, the whole FBA thing,
Speaker 1: which I won't get into, is that right, there's a
Speaker 1: whole other level of just.
Speaker 2: I get into it though. That's what you got here
Speaker 2: a lot. You know, we could talk about a little bit,
Speaker 2: but you know, he went on there. Man.
Speaker 1: Was one of the things that I didn't like, man,
Speaker 1: was the whole just whenever you get to call on
Speaker 1: people radicals and all that other stuff. Man, those are
Speaker 1: like dog whistles for the alphabet boys. Man. Yeah, racist
Speaker 1: if you're saying the extremists or racist. Yeah. And you
Speaker 1: know when you get to talking that way about a
Speaker 1: group instead of choosing the use of the language, it
Speaker 1: can get kind of ugly.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: You know, we saw that, and Man, you could start,
Speaker 1: you know, getting people took.
Speaker 2: Out in every level, like you said, economically, socially, politically,
Speaker 2: or physically.
Speaker 1: It can lead to all of that. It can lead
Speaker 1: to all of that.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: And since that Joe might have had some you know,
Speaker 1: kind of frustration, you could tell you had a lot
Speaker 1: of frustration built up. One of the things that I
Speaker 1: didn't like because it didn't have to go that far.
Speaker 1: If math haff Facilly ass w were have said something,
Speaker 1: maybe they could have diverted. All you got to do
Speaker 1: is switch it to another subject. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I still think because of the climate that
Speaker 2: we're living in, and it's this this hyper sensitivity like
Speaker 2: everything is a hate word or something, that.
Speaker 1: He still would have caught. He still would have caught
Speaker 1: the same flag.
Speaker 2: Even if math Hoffer would have tried to hurry up
Speaker 2: and go to something else, unless he edited that part out,
Speaker 2: he was still gonna catch the same heat.
Speaker 1: Would have edited out. Man. Yeah, I would have too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have too. I would have deleted that part
Speaker 1: because it's a whole lot of stuff on this show
Speaker 1: man that people neverw if had we've had gifts on
Speaker 1: to see things that could either incriminate them or get
Speaker 1: somebody else some trouble. That I made a decision like,
Speaker 1: you know what, man, it is going to cut that
Speaker 1: little five ten minutes off. You know, even though it
Speaker 1: might have got a lot of attention, that just some
Speaker 1: all attention.
Speaker 2: Ain't good, bro, Nah, all attention ain't good All money
Speaker 2: ain't good money. And that's what we're dealing with right now.
Speaker 2: This is the proof of it. And this is the
Speaker 2: proof of it, man. And like I said, this ain't
Speaker 2: no personal attack against Joe, but he needs to apologize.
Speaker 1: Bro. He might not do it, you know, but he
Speaker 1: needs to. He should. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And apparently he took a personal attack against Tarik and
Speaker 2: Lord Jamar, so he making it personal.
Speaker 1: I think they was.
Speaker 2: Just speaking up on trying to defend the originators or
Speaker 2: the creators of hip hop.
Speaker 1: And since so what that's for all this is coming from, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's from all of this. It was from them saying
Speaker 1: that Puerto Ricans had no involvement in the emphasy states
Speaker 1: hip hop.
Speaker 2: Well not the EMPHASI saying, but the origination. They definitely
Speaker 2: had a part and contributed and the emfasy and the
Speaker 2: growth of it. But they're saying who originated it? So
Speaker 2: originated it of course as the black descendants of slaves.
Speaker 2: But I guess so much pride and ego and some
Speaker 2: prior claims that KRS Won and Buster Rhymes and Fat
Speaker 2: Joe and some people from like New York City. I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's New York City Breakers, Crazy Legs
Speaker 2: and some other people that was claiming that it was
Speaker 2: the fifty to fifty Cold Originator Equal Creators or something
Speaker 2: like that. So Tariq Nashi made a documentary and brought
Speaker 2: all kind of receipts and all kinds of eyewitnesses that
Speaker 2: was there and debunked that claim. And so I guess
Speaker 2: that made Fat Joe feel stupid or made him look
Speaker 2: bad in the public. So he you know, he's clapping back. Personally,
Speaker 2: he definitely went to your personal and said some personal stuff.
Speaker 2: So in his personal rant against one or two people,
Speaker 2: or or he just just f bomb the whole FBA
Speaker 2: organization or whatever that is. So that's where he let
Speaker 2: his emotions get him in high water.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the emotions could be a motherfucker sometimes. Yeah, emotions,
Speaker 1: you know, I think, man, what he should have done, man,
Speaker 1: is is you see what Tarik is doing. Man, Trek
Speaker 1: is kind of taking the whole player, right about the
Speaker 1: whole thing, just like whatever. Yeah, and he can do that.
Speaker 2: Tarik is smarter or wiser. I should say he's wiser,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, He's slicker. You know, he
Speaker 2: got that detailed pimp game that p game that you know,
Speaker 2: he know how to run on your on your mind
Speaker 2: and and put some bait out there and see if
Speaker 2: you're gonna buy it at it. So dude and a
Speaker 2: couple of other dude bit at it. So now he
Speaker 2: can clown them. But I don't agree with the childish
Speaker 2: roasting and all of that, And that's what really is
Speaker 2: stirring up some unnecessary beats between the communities.
Speaker 1: But specially when you sit up there, man and get
Speaker 1: the call and people broke and all that. I used
Speaker 1: always looked at that man as somebody being in a
Speaker 1: list lazy anyway, when they just oh, well you broke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some people choose to be brown, you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then especially when you don't know what Tarik's financial
Speaker 1: status is, right, And I think, but he didn't just
Speaker 1: say t is.
Speaker 2: But he didn't just say He didn't just say to Rek,
Speaker 2: So I'm saying he didn't even mention Tik's. Now he
Speaker 2: was more mad at Lord Jamar, so he I think
Speaker 2: he was taking a shot at Lord Jamar when he
Speaker 2: was saying broke fba, you know what I'm saying, Because
Speaker 2: he didn't even he didn't even he chose not to
Speaker 2: say Treik who is supposed to be the leader of
Speaker 2: that term, even though they're trying to say that he's
Speaker 2: not the but he's the leader of that term. Whoever
Speaker 2: thought of that term is the leader by default. Because
Speaker 2: I heard Shoe says, I don't want to mix the
Speaker 2: dude's name. I'm gonna tell you, man to read the
Speaker 2: sheet has a pretty substantial fellow. Absolutely, Man, he's a leader,
Speaker 2: even though he even though he say he don't want
Speaker 2: to be a leader, he ain't a leaders as bs.
Speaker 1: He is a leader. You're a leader of the prayer.
Speaker 1: I would almost man be remiss to say that. You know,
Speaker 1: while he's not a celebrity like Shoe to Wreak, the
Speaker 1: shee might have as many people writing for him as
Speaker 1: Joe do, probably more. I think you tommobilize more people
Speaker 1: than show if he wanted to right now, are you
Speaker 1: he can mobilize the people pleasure too, Yeah, because of
Speaker 1: the cause.
Speaker 2: If Toak, even though he in entertainment or he's doing documentaries,
Speaker 2: but his documentary is an entertainment that's still representing the
Speaker 2: accomplishments of the general Black mass is a the descendants
Speaker 2: of slaves. So Yeah, he could organize, and he has
Speaker 2: as far as I know, he organized a few like
Speaker 2: little marches or something like that. So yeah, he definitely
Speaker 2: could move some people. But I don't. I don't like
Speaker 2: how to with the inspiration or the motivation of the
Speaker 2: movement is against It's not against the slave master. It's
Speaker 2: just it's against a fellow brother.
Speaker 1: Tribe of.
Speaker 2: Indigenous people that's also victims of the same snake that
Speaker 2: bid us.
Speaker 1: So I don't that's the part I don't. I don't like.
Speaker 1: I don't like that. And that's the thing I would because,
Speaker 1: like I said, Tarika has been on our show before.
Speaker 1: Men was cool. You know, me and Jerik talk every
Speaker 1: once in a while. We don't talk every day, but
Speaker 1: me and him text back and forth sometimes. And that's
Speaker 1: one of the things I would like to sit down
Speaker 1: and talk to him about Man one day. Is that
Speaker 1: was one of the things when you know, when I
Speaker 1: was checking out, I thought it was dupe. You know,
Speaker 1: the whole foundation look like I like that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? It gives us all right, din you
Speaker 1: so to speak right, But the whole thing is when
Speaker 1: you get this separating all it because I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you this cam. This is the thing. Man, if you
Speaker 1: took an FB a foundational Black American that you're making
Speaker 1: un let's say a brother from Nigeria, right, and he
Speaker 1: put him in a room in front of a klansman.
Speaker 1: If you ask that klansman what he sees, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna say, I'll see a foundational Black American, a Jamaican
Speaker 1: and American. He's gonna say, I see three niggas, right.
Speaker 2: I don't think that. Yeah, I don't think that's the argument.
Speaker 2: The argument ain't about current what the current uh what
Speaker 2: uh the colonizer currently sees. The argument is about what
Speaker 2: has happened to the specific people already and what we're old,
Speaker 2: like reparations. You know what I'm saying, Based on what
Speaker 2: we're old, what does this the people that's supposed to
Speaker 2: be paying our reparation see, he's gonna see it the
Speaker 2: same way, like we don't want them to see uh
Speaker 2: Jamaican and the Nigeria or whatever the same way. If
Speaker 2: it's about what we're old. So Tarika is a thousand
Speaker 2: percent correct on that, but it's still about, like I said,
Speaker 2: the comedic or the roasting and the bagging and all that.
Speaker 2: Like you can't mix that with this subject and older Kim.
Speaker 1: I want to clear it up too. I'm not here
Speaker 1: to defate none of this, you know, stuff wrong with
Speaker 1: the RIK got going on because I'm just not getting
Speaker 1: verse and all that. And I don't want to make
Speaker 1: it like I'm attacking them. It's just certain questions that
Speaker 1: I asked, you know what I mean. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: no attack. I agree. People don't like listening nowadays. Bro,
Speaker 1: they take some stuff you see, and they go back.
Speaker 1: Oh man, Cam and Steele was on there talking about
Speaker 1: the fka't makes things. You know, they don't our head.
Speaker 2: I ain't worried about nobody be on my head, like
Speaker 2: I said, Oh, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I'm here for all the smoke. But I'm just saying
Speaker 1: not no one necessary stuff, especially not against snow fighters out.
Speaker 1: I feel like Tika now she has, you know, got
Speaker 1: a good thing going.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily a bad man. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think he's raising the consciousness in a new modern way.
Speaker 2: But you know, like I said, certain certain the spirit
Speaker 2: behind it, a certain tactics, certain ways of him retaliating
Speaker 2: against uh trolls or against c I A coin tail
Speaker 2: pro people that's gonna that's gonna attack him a certain way.
Speaker 1: And they might call.
Speaker 2: Themselves Jamaican or Nigerian or Puerto Rican, they might be
Speaker 2: straight troll Feds, CIA, cointail pro whatever. But he they
Speaker 2: baited him into retaliating against the whole people in a
Speaker 2: certain type of disrespectful or childish kind of way, which
Speaker 2: now he bit out of bait that somebody wiser than
Speaker 2: him might have set him up to respond the wrong
Speaker 2: way to where now every you know, the whole Puerto
Speaker 2: Rican or whole non non descendative slave blacks is, you know,
Speaker 2: looking at us a certain kind of That's the thing, bro.
Speaker 1: I'm all with people having dialogue, right, we all ain't
Speaker 1: agree on everything, but I think when you get to
Speaker 1: being lazy man and you know, start trying to you know, hole,
Speaker 1: oh y'all, broke, y'all, you know what, then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you this. And I'm not a hypocrite.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I used the N word way more than I should,
Speaker 1: especially in that you know, me knowing the history behind
Speaker 1: the ugly ass word.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: I was kind of looking at fact Joe like he's
Speaker 1: really comfortable saying that.
Speaker 2: Man, Hey, that's our fault. Because we made uncomfortable saying that.
Speaker 2: So if we're not out raised at us saying that
Speaker 2: against each other, it ain't nowhere in hell and sane
Speaker 2: reality that we should be out raised at him exactly.
Speaker 1: And that's why I said, I don't like being a hypocrite.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. Hypocrite. That's clearly a hypocrite,
Speaker 1: and that don't work in real life.
Speaker 2: You can have all kinds of insane, unreasonable ieological rules
Speaker 2: that work in your own household, among other traumatized the
Speaker 2: sentences of slaves, that makes sense, and you just trying
Speaker 2: to respect your mom or your daddy because hey, mom
Speaker 2: and daddy, but that shit don't work when you step
Speaker 2: outside into the real world, they gonna judge you by
Speaker 2: real laws of hypocrisy and real laws of justice. So
Speaker 2: you taught we taught them it was okay to call
Speaker 2: us nigga because we call each other nigga.
Speaker 1: So and I'm sure man being raised in the Bronx, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they grew up with that. That's not no strange word.
Speaker 1: It's just he used it.
Speaker 2: He got baited in, just like I think Tarit got
Speaker 2: baited in by trolls from the Jamaican community or whoever
Speaker 2: that's probably saying some foul stuff to him, but he gotta,
Speaker 2: he gotta, he got a name, so when he responds,
Speaker 2: he gonna catch more heat than anybody else exactly.
Speaker 1: And see, that's my thing right there. I have heard,
Speaker 1: I've had, you know, knowing making people that feel like
Speaker 1: they don't have nothing to do with us, and and
Speaker 1: I've met that. But I've met other Jamaican people that's like,
Speaker 1: you know, were black, you feel. I've met people from Africa,
Speaker 1: d I don't have anything to do with uniquers, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and but I've met other African people. So I'm not
Speaker 1: quick to generalize everybody and looked everybody into the same.
Speaker 1: Everybody ain't in bed together, you feel what I mean?
Speaker 1: Everybody had they own and everybody have their own opinions
Speaker 1: based on their own experiences. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with the experience to see it is. I just learned
Speaker 1: man a long time ago out I really don't like
Speaker 1: generalizing people. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And Tigain, you know, he real intelligent and you know
Speaker 2: when whenever I listened to him, he able to defend
Speaker 2: his argument.
Speaker 1: But it's just once you start going into the name
Speaker 1: calling and the memes and.
Speaker 2: The unnecessary insulting because somebody insulting you, then.
Speaker 1: It goes downhill. Now you just.
Speaker 2: Invalidated your whole argument. You got a righteous cause or
Speaker 2: righteous movement or whatever. But you are the leader of it.
Speaker 2: You can't say you not the leader of it. You
Speaker 2: are the leader of it. People come to us say, okay,
Speaker 2: where did you Why did you say f DA and
Speaker 2: not NBA like doctor Claude Anderson, are not uh d
Speaker 2: fs like the honor boy Lodje Muhammad. So you are
Speaker 2: the leader of that term, and you the leader of
Speaker 2: the definition of it.
Speaker 1: You the leader of the popularization of it. So you
Speaker 1: got to you gotta take all of that, you know
Speaker 1: that come with it.
Speaker 2: You have to be more mature than you are when
Speaker 2: it comes to your ops or your critics.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well you know what though, can you ain't never talked?
Speaker 1: Have you ever met him? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't meet him in person, but I hollered
Speaker 2: that he met UH by way of glasses. Glasses got
Speaker 2: me him and me, me and Tarik on the phone
Speaker 2: about some issue that happened a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: or something about UH. Something was going on at power
Speaker 2: or they were trying to do a march or protest
Speaker 2: at Power one oh six or something like that. So
Speaker 2: we talked about an issue similar to this before so
Speaker 2: and was it was real respectful?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was real, real mutual
Speaker 1: love respect.
Speaker 2: He is a cool brother. Tarika's school as hell man. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I'm a fan of him. I'm a fan
Speaker 2: of his personality. I'm a fan of him clown and
Speaker 2: like I love how he rose and he clown and
Speaker 2: he But when it's about a subject like this where
Speaker 2: it's representing us like this, like it's black in black
Speaker 2: versus black, I ain't with that. Like, you got to
Speaker 2: be more responsible than that. And I'm gonna tell you this, man,
Speaker 2: he came up with a brilliant movie. You know, he's
Speaker 2: the most all the movies and documentary. I'm a fan
Speaker 2: of all of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he's he's very dope, man. And when
Speaker 1: you're doing something man that's going to uplift the culture, man,
Speaker 1: especially when you talk about Black Americans, right, just you know,
Speaker 1: tain the history that we've had in this country. Man,
Speaker 1: whenever we do something that's excellent, we should all be
Speaker 1: out there applaud you feel what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: think this is a very ambitious undertaking man. He has
Speaker 1: to take a very seriou you're saying to me, he
Speaker 1: should have brothers like yourself, you know, brothers that got
Speaker 1: the right mindset for that type of stuff to maybe
Speaker 1: come in to help, you know, mold that man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm always open for that,
Speaker 2: and I'm always opening and I'm a team player. It's
Speaker 2: just I'm a g I don't know how old Tariq is.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm fifty five, so I don't know if
Speaker 2: we're the.
Speaker 1: Same age, but I know he has had a like.
Speaker 2: Resa Risa Islam, which is, you know, twenty maybe thirty
Speaker 2: years younger than me, twenty years young like, So it's
Speaker 2: a youth. You know, youth moves the revolution. So I
Speaker 2: understand him going at the youth. But wise men in
Speaker 2: generals and you know, geez and all that is supposed
Speaker 2: to be for counsel, you don't you know, you don't
Speaker 2: really supposed to run out there and represent this without
Speaker 2: necessarily having the blessings of the counsel of people that
Speaker 2: already shed blood or you know, blood and sweat and
Speaker 2: cried and died and did whatever for this. So I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that's what he did. But you know, once
Speaker 2: you once it's black against black, then that's a that's
Speaker 2: a different that's a different animal, right there.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's a different cause that's
Speaker 1: not entertainment no more. Yeah, I agree, man, I agree
Speaker 1: a hundred percent. And I think you know what, And
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna steal on you. I told you when
Speaker 1: we first started. I want to go steal on this
Speaker 1: fact Joe thing don't warrant says to have no whole
Speaker 1: hour long conversation, right. I just hope that Joe swallows
Speaker 1: his pride and does the right thing. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: don't I don't, you know, I don't think that it
Speaker 1: had to be that bad. But we make it.
Speaker 2: That bad when we when we avoid getting in front
Speaker 2: of it, and we we go too long without addressing it.
Speaker 1: And then us, especially our people, you.
Speaker 2: Know, we we love to let our imaginations and feelings
Speaker 2: run away with us, and then we're gonna start making
Speaker 2: something bigger and worser than it really was, and we're
Speaker 2: gonna force a person hand and then they gonna respond
Speaker 2: more emotionally and it's gonna be a big crash out.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just an unnecessary thing. I know, the
Speaker 2: ignorance of my people. I know how my people.
Speaker 1: Sure didn't had to handle lead as visceral as he did.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, it was kind of light.
Speaker 2: So this la let me give you this example. Still,
Speaker 2: it's like it's like Kobe. You know, it's like Kobe
Speaker 2: rest in peace. He on the court and you know,
Speaker 2: people is mad or whatever because you know, he Kobe,
Speaker 2: so they want to teach him a lesson or something.
Speaker 2: So when the ref ain't looking, they throwing elbows, they actually.
Speaker 1: Hit him or whatever. You know, they doing a few
Speaker 1: times and the ref ain't never looking. So he mad.
Speaker 2: Now Kobe mad at the ops saying he mad at
Speaker 2: the ref you know what I'm saying, because they letting him.
Speaker 2: So once he finally take off, the ref is looking,
Speaker 2: he get the tech. Now, Now Kobe is the villain,
Speaker 2: But really he been responding to something all along, but
Speaker 2: nobody else took paid attention or seen it.
Speaker 1: So I think fact Joe might be suffering from that.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it was cool for him to break
Speaker 2: the rules and get the technical nigga, you did what
Speaker 2: you wasn't supposed to do. But I don't think it
Speaker 2: was just out of a vacuum because he just racist,
Speaker 2: because that's why he was even calling FBA racist because
Speaker 2: he's understanding.
Speaker 1: Never call effect your racists or accused him of being racist,
Speaker 1: because that's not what it is. I think he's probably
Speaker 1: look culturally ignorant to some stuff, but I don't think
Speaker 1: he racist. But he said he said FBA was racist. See.
Speaker 1: You know what, though, man, the whole previous of black
Speaker 1: people being racist, that's a whole nother that's a whole
Speaker 1: nother conversation. Man. In order to be a racist, in
Speaker 1: order to do we have to be able to ask
Speaker 1: some power. But we do got power, he said.
Speaker 2: He's saying that in a sense, he's saying that Tarik
Speaker 2: is rallying together our real power, which is unity in
Speaker 2: not allowing Puerto Ricans to take credit for hip hop.
Speaker 1: So that's how should we allowed him to take credit
Speaker 1: for You know what, man, I'm gonna tell you something
Speaker 1: about this country. Right, everything that we've ever done them
Speaker 1: it has been stolen from us, rock and roll, rock
Speaker 1: and roll, stolen jazz. They you know they stole there.
Speaker 1: Everything we've done is kind of been pilfer from us
Speaker 1: and homoginized and made into some other stuff that's more
Speaker 1: palatable for the masses, right and they doing the same
Speaker 1: thing that hip hop right now, they're doing the same
Speaker 1: thing the rap right now. You feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Everything we've ever had has been kind of like stole
Speaker 1: from us, and then we just get written out the
Speaker 1: whole history of it. Well, yeah, it ain't. It ain't.
Speaker 2: It ain't just never as far as I know, it's
Speaker 2: never really been stolen from a brother tribe. It's we know,
Speaker 2: it's always stolen from the by the Europeans. For but
Speaker 2: for you know, this being the case of Puerto Ricans,
Speaker 2: which is mixed.
Speaker 1: With black it's black Puerto Ricans, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So for for that to be to beef like it's.
Speaker 2: Being stolen or attempting to be stolen by Puerto Ricans,
Speaker 2: and then this particular Puerto Rican say, y'all broke ass
Speaker 2: you know FBA's y'all broken inines? Okay, Well that's where
Speaker 2: you that's where you're digging in hole for yourself, fat Joe,
Speaker 2: because that's exactly why we banging on you, because we're broke,
Speaker 2: because people like you been robbing us of our inventions
Speaker 2: and our creations and taking the credit and getting paid
Speaker 2: for it, and we died broke.
Speaker 1: So you just.
Speaker 2: Validated Tarikan and FBA's whole argument by saying that shit.
Speaker 1: Per You know what, I'm very interested to see what
Speaker 1: comes to this man over the next few weeks. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe Fat Joe just be quiet. I hope it go away,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But I don't think this
Speaker 1: go go away no time. Nah, It's not gonna go away.
Speaker 2: And he was fresh off Fat George, fresh off the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, I mean not the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: The World Series. He fresh off of hosting a BT Awards.
Speaker 2: He fresh off of rocking with Kamalin Harris, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So he seemed like he was way recent,
Speaker 2: just so way ingrained in the system, you know, in
Speaker 2: the in the in these people's system, that it's not
Speaker 2: gonna go away. It can't go away because as we
Speaker 2: waking up, were looking to take down the system and
Speaker 2: all of the gatekeepers and all of the people that
Speaker 2: was in the way. So he's in and he's in
Speaker 2: the wrong place at the wrong time of history right
Speaker 2: now exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, we see what's gonna happen. You know, while we're
Speaker 1: talking about hip hop and all the other stuff, kind
Speaker 1: of want to talk about one of my favorite rappers.
Speaker 1: He just released the new album, Red Man, just dropped
Speaker 1: Muddy walk on too, you know, Muddy waters Per two.
Speaker 1: I know you ain't heard of.
Speaker 2: Cam Yeah, no, so the red Man, Red Man is
Speaker 2: my my die.
Speaker 1: You know, it's one of the most Dailium seasonal You know,
Speaker 1: Redley was known as the Spinner Man. I heard his
Speaker 1: new album, Man, I don't like it.
Speaker 2: That's that's how I think about I think the sign
Speaker 2: about the Missionary album on the ice Cube album, the
Speaker 2: Man Down and the Missionary dressed the same way. I
Speaker 2: think about that. But what what reason don't you like
Speaker 2: the red Man album?
Speaker 1: You know what? Like I said, Red Man is one
Speaker 1: of my favorite artists. Man, so I'm gonna always hold
Speaker 1: him in a different regard. Now. See, I don't want
Speaker 1: to get on here misquotes stuff, man, But I'm really
Speaker 1: big on lyrics, Cammon depth of lyrics right, yeah, me too.
Speaker 1: You sound like you're being lazy. I'm gonna definitely call
Speaker 1: you the right are you're up to? Go on genius
Speaker 1: real quick man, and see if I ca the lyrics
Speaker 1: for this song. Man, But it was something like similar
Speaker 1: thumb dumb, dumb, what do he say? Some want to
Speaker 1: bust bubble guts like And it was just like it
Speaker 1: was really lazy, and I was just like, hum, I say,
Speaker 1: read men, cool this over catts, you know dad this
Speaker 1: white Man. Then they had another song on there man
Speaker 1: called uh light it Up that was like a throwback
Speaker 1: to the Posse cuts, you know that they used to
Speaker 1: have you light it up? Light it up?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: It was cool if that's what it was.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: But man, this shit sounded like some nineteen ninety like
Speaker 1: like just some unless that's what he was doing. Bro,
Speaker 1: it just sound old and outdated.
Speaker 2: Man, Man talk about it, and he wasn't really busting
Speaker 2: like he should be.
Speaker 1: My thing is this man, we just had l to
Speaker 1: put out an album. Hell was for the fuck getting busy?
Speaker 1: Though I ain't heard, I ain't heard nothing.
Speaker 2: I mean I don't even follow I don't even follow
Speaker 2: rapping hip hop really not my generation.
Speaker 1: I know you're doing this, ain't me. I am not
Speaker 1: dissing red man. This is not personal, but Muddy Waters
Speaker 1: was one of his best albums, right, that's like his
Speaker 1: You know that's just a magnum opus. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, so to speak, You know, one of his
Speaker 1: best albums. Right. If you go do a sequel or something, man,
Speaker 1: you better make sure you come correct. I don't like
Speaker 1: the beats on the man. Some of them beat sound
Speaker 1: like some old reject ass house party beats. The sea
Speaker 1: ship like that, man, and it was just a whack
Speaker 1: ass album. Man.
Speaker 2: Man, I mean, you got the right straight, but that
Speaker 2: ship was trash. So you're saying it was trash man, Man,
Speaker 2: that's what you said. What you say, what you feel.
Speaker 1: I don't mean red Man is trash. You mean you're
Speaker 1: just saying it this project and maybe I'm taking it
Speaker 1: so personal, man, from what I think about red Man
Speaker 1: as an MC red Man is that dude?
Speaker 2: Man? Yeah, Now, you just disappointed in this effort. It
Speaker 2: ain't it on that he's trash. I'm very disappointed. And
Speaker 2: you know what, I think, trash is a disrespectful word
Speaker 2: for it. I'm not gonna call my.
Speaker 1: Brother's art trash man, but it just wasn't good. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Red Man. And if this means I never get that
Speaker 1: Red Man interview. It's what it was, man. But I'm real.
Speaker 1: I wish I could have talked to him before he
Speaker 1: put this shit out and told him, don't put it out.
Speaker 1: I'd have told him, listen to try to fix it, man,
Speaker 1: let's try to get it. I just think, man, I
Speaker 1: just think, man, I didn't like it, man, because I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe y'all was the only Maybe I'm the
Speaker 1: only one that feels that way. Just wasn't that good man?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I me personally, man, Like I made a few
Speaker 2: I made a whole album that I still never put
Speaker 2: out with battle Cat, and I let like three or
Speaker 2: four singles, you know, hit hit the internet for free,
Speaker 2: and I knew there was quality. But my I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to prove nothing. You know, some of it, some
Speaker 2: of us or most of us. Like I said, the
Speaker 2: Cube album, you know, I didn't even listen to. I
Speaker 2: just heard one or two songs. That first video just
Speaker 2: turned me all the way off that ego it's my
Speaker 2: ego or something like that.
Speaker 1: But the Snoop and Dre, I listened to that whole
Speaker 1: album and it really, you know, the energy or the the.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to call it. It seemed like
Speaker 2: they was trying to prove something to each other.
Speaker 1: It wasn't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even like they was really trying to give
Speaker 2: the people what felt good to them.
Speaker 1: You can tell if you it's a choice. Seemed like
Speaker 1: a chore. That a chore.
Speaker 2: That that Snoop was trying to impress Dre. And I
Speaker 2: don't know exactly who Dre was trying to impress with
Speaker 2: the beat selections or whatever, but it didn't seem like
Speaker 2: they really had the fans in mind. It seemed like
Speaker 2: they was on their own thing, trying to impress each
Speaker 2: other or something, and we just didn't understand it. It
Speaker 2: didn't it didn't resonate with us at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think, man, with our oh, with our boys, man,
Speaker 1: I ain't good. I can't call them O Jesus because
Speaker 1: I'm damn near the same age, if not the same age.
Speaker 1: Most of them say temporaries you feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: or pears. I don't buy that whole thing where they
Speaker 1: aged they aged, don't know, because there's plenty of veteran
Speaker 1: them sees to be busting you, be buzzing, Cam Trady,
Speaker 1: be getting busy Trady does this, still is maintained his sound.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, do stuff? You know, Snoop
Speaker 1: Dogg for the most part doing stuff. Snoop Dogg still
Speaker 1: a formidable rapper.
Speaker 2: But I mean, like you know, Snoop always been able
Speaker 2: to bust. Snoop is Snoop, So Snoop ain't rappers is
Speaker 2: like Cube is Q. Cube is a businessman, an actor,
Speaker 2: or professional sports owner. So they not I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think they really tripping on the rap thing
Speaker 2: like that. Dre is a billionaire on other ventures like
Speaker 2: Beats by Dre or whatever, you know, So I don't
Speaker 2: think they really tripping like that about the money. But
Speaker 2: they are still trying to be relevant or still trying
Speaker 2: to show that they got us.
Speaker 1: It reminds me like of Mike Tyson and Jake Paul,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: At some point, you know, you're not supposed to be
Speaker 2: kind of trying to compete or against the youth.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to stay.
Speaker 2: In your own generation lane. You got it, you go,
Speaker 2: as long as you live, you're gonna have your your
Speaker 2: fan base of people that's our age, and you know,
Speaker 2: and it's cool to have a young feature here and there,
Speaker 2: this and that. But uh, that's what I think. I
Speaker 2: think that we ain't maturing. We ain't rapping about our
Speaker 2: age group. Like the raps that I put out is
Speaker 2: about maturity. I'm not talking about the same stuff quarters too.
Speaker 1: I'm expecting here. Red Man always came with it though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what what did you look for from red Man? Punchlines?
Speaker 1: And you look for controversy? Did you look with it?
Speaker 1: I looked for him just I wanted to get that
Speaker 1: funk on their dog. You know he can't. We wanted,
Speaker 1: you know, New Jersey came. That's fun. You. I was
Speaker 1: expect just some of that good old fashioned head banger
Speaker 1: boot y'all. I was expecting yourself. M hm, and there's
Speaker 1: some busting you feel what I'm saying. I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear red Man over the little House tracks dog
Speaker 1: with some the other samples. I don't know what that was.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear him doing that.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: Maybe this just dog, but but this wasn't it baby,
Speaker 1: This definitely wasn't it man.
Speaker 2: Well about the lyrics lyrically, did you did you want
Speaker 2: him to talk about something a fifty year old will talk.
Speaker 1: About or did you just are you? He was still
Speaker 1: doing this thing. He was still you know, he was
Speaker 1: still talking about smoking his weed. I'm a trump trying
Speaker 1: to find the lyrics. Man, to read some of the lyrics. Man,
Speaker 1: I had a problem with lyrics though. I had a problem.
Speaker 1: I had a problem with the lyrics though. I ain't
Speaker 1: go I'm not gonna. I'm gonna tell you who got
Speaker 1: busy on the album because he had this song, I
Speaker 1: told you to light it upbreakord with all New Jersey
Speaker 1: had to be got busy on there? Who was that?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he got busy on there. It beat there
Speaker 1: some other some other cats cause you know, New Jersey
Speaker 1: got some spinners. Oh yeah, it was my favorite rappers
Speaker 1: come from New Jersey. Yeah. New Jersey definitely got the spinners.
Speaker 1: And that's why I hold red Man to a very
Speaker 1: high regard. He can't do no average stuff, man, he
Speaker 1: not allowed to. I'd rather him not if he go
Speaker 1: do adverts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, I like, I like, you know, just
Speaker 2: like when he was with red Man.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I like stuff where they
Speaker 1: don't care.
Speaker 2: Like meaning they pushing the envelope and they coming with
Speaker 2: new metaphors or new punchlines, like something that you can
Speaker 2: that you there's some degree of difficulty that you put
Speaker 2: some clever thought behind.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, some genius thought punch lines.
Speaker 2: So I'm not really into hearing the same thing like
Speaker 2: me personally, Like I don't want to hear.
Speaker 1: About the same thing I heard about in the two Facts.
Speaker 1: My crew a little liddy. That's why we all to
Speaker 1: grab titties in the inner city. Whoa whoa, whoa hey,
Speaker 1: we get here, look around, we cook nigga. Whoa whoa,
Speaker 1: whoa hey, we calls heaving. No time for a shook nigga.
Speaker 1: You got bread? Where that your pub money? Nigga, I'm
Speaker 1: wearing that. I'm blessed. Hung little Bernie, May I mean
Speaker 1: cookies right now? We're burner at gun license. Keep it
Speaker 1: on the waist, someting looking Puerto Rican in the face.
Speaker 1: Invest everything, keep nothing in is safe. I'm mad at
Speaker 1: the meal, so you can leave it on the plate.
Speaker 1: Game time. I'm hot, sauce. One of your over women,
Speaker 1: my balls. You wear Gucci nigga knockoffs. Your girl a
Speaker 1: rap they give him top off. It's just too many
Speaker 1: ABC stuff. Man, you might have matured you might be
Speaker 1: looking for higher quality content, man, I'm just looking for
Speaker 1: him to deliver me. So you know what I think
Speaker 1: it is, man, y'all rappers man has been doing the
Speaker 1: same thing for thirty years. Don't switch up, man. Rappers
Speaker 1: is the only people I know, man, that have a
Speaker 1: successful form of going a be selling the best ribs
Speaker 1: on the block, and go switch the sauce up after
Speaker 1: a while. You know what, I'm changed the sauce up.
Speaker 1: I think you supposed to.
Speaker 2: I think that's the skill or art that we that
Speaker 2: we been failing at.
Speaker 1: I think every rapper.
Speaker 2: Is supposed to grow and suppose supposed to add today
Speaker 2: today menu.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You can still keep that sauce, but you're supposed to
Speaker 2: create new sauces that's just as good or better according
Speaker 2: to the Times.
Speaker 1: And I don't think we do that.
Speaker 2: I think we get stuck trying to do the same thing,
Speaker 2: like you said, and we age out.
Speaker 1: We age it. I'm gonna take you go do it perfectly, bro,
Speaker 1: Jush does it perfectly? Man, I've been banging too short
Speaker 1: since I was sixteen. Right, He's a fall and you
Speaker 1: can tell he's a fall with the Times but he's
Speaker 1: still gonna give you the same stuff. He's still too short.
Speaker 1: Well what, in my opinion, what he's evolving with is
Speaker 1: the production. He's staying.
Speaker 2: He's saying the same stuff, But the production is what
Speaker 2: people dance to.
Speaker 1: You don't production. Me thinking about a dog red men
Speaker 1: always had flow. His flow just on somen is aggressive
Speaker 1: with me. Even he would say some crazy stuff back then,
Speaker 1: like with the boom thung dump the thune dam Den
Speaker 1: and still still flap like the hair on don King.
Speaker 1: He just the different that just way more convincing back
Speaker 1: than even though that wasn't no ultrue metaphysical, you know,
Speaker 1: lyrical miracle stuff. He still had the swag when in
Speaker 1: the and the beat was just binging with them keys
Speaker 1: bu bump a bump bone. They said that they just
Speaker 1: had a lot of figure in the man. I don't know, listen, man,
Speaker 1: I could be wrong though, I don't know. I didn't
Speaker 1: I didn't hear.
Speaker 2: But I just know the nature of us, and I
Speaker 2: know the time that we're living in and our people
Speaker 2: are craving war war lord like like controversial, like be
Speaker 2: controversial in your style, still still popular ship, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But push the envelope and say some
Speaker 2: new stuff with that same style that you that you
Speaker 2: didn't say before.
Speaker 1: That's what that's what we was attracted to.
Speaker 2: You said some wild ship, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: in a fly away that matched your personality. So they gotta,
Speaker 2: I think they gotta find more different subjects to talk
Speaker 2: wild shit that's up to date.
Speaker 1: Now, this is what I'm talking about. Hey, Hey, what's
Speaker 1: the deal? Bro? Cannabis five? All of my lingo troub limo,
Speaker 1: my nine out the window. Reggie came, I still got it.
Speaker 1: Gilla House, Nino Brown Hall pushed product in the trench.
Speaker 1: My money don't need a rents. I'll survived. Fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: I plead the fifth. Hey, I rock chains, a hustle hard,
Speaker 1: my chest stout like I'm in the yard. I'm looking like,
Speaker 1: who the fuck are y'all see? I'm gonna count these
Speaker 1: half ass bars in here for you? All right? White say, Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: what's the deal, bro cannabis five? All of my lingual
Speaker 1: I accept that right from let them over, nine off
Speaker 1: the window, bla blah blah. Reggie came, I still got it.
Speaker 1: Guilla House, Nino Brown how pushed product and in the trench.
Speaker 1: My money don't need a rents. How I survived fourth quarter?
Speaker 1: I plead the fifth, that's okay. How I rocked? You
Speaker 1: change a hustle hard, my chest out like I'm in
Speaker 1: the yard. I'm looking like, who the fuck are y'all
Speaker 1: my crew got juice? Marlly ma ah um, I shouldn't
Speaker 1: let me see you want to slide bro and meckle up?
Speaker 1: I shipped on the track of bubble Guts. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say no more some of that stuff.
Speaker 2: So in my right hand, some of that stuff I know,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm gonna because I don't that ain't that
Speaker 2: ain't the stuff that I listen to either way, like
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 1: I would have to hear the beat and the hook.
Speaker 2: To me, the beating the hook is going determine whether
Speaker 2: whether I would even listen to that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because that's just not learning
Speaker 1: that I be on. You want to slide bro lethel
Speaker 1: look ship in the track bubble Guts man, that's he said,
Speaker 1: lauck are y'all my crew got juice? Marley Marrow. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's just such a big old man. That was a
Speaker 1: metaphor and a half right there. You know what, This
Speaker 1: ain't no knock on him, man, I just wish man.
Speaker 2: You just holding and you want to hold him to
Speaker 2: a higher standard that you used to going to a
Speaker 2: higher standard.
Speaker 1: Man, I hold him really to a high regard. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you where I wouldn't disappointed that the track
Speaker 1: that he got with metha man is actually that's that's cool,
Speaker 1: That's that's dope. Okay, So he got with methic man
Speaker 1: is all right, they go good together. They like peanut
Speaker 1: butter and jelly, you know what I mean. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, like, you know, really and I really hate man.
Speaker 1: I almost didn't do this, man. But one thing I
Speaker 1: said in twenty twenty five is I'm gonna start really
Speaker 1: saying how I feel man. Coming off the conversations I
Speaker 1: have off here, I'm not I'm gonna tell you this.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be no phony ass nigga no more.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that in a bad way. But
Speaker 1: I have been kind of fake because I talked one
Speaker 1: way off the camera. Then I get over here and
Speaker 1: I'll be trying to be too political correct. I'm not
Speaker 1: doing that shit. Yeah, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 2: No more.
Speaker 1: So if people, if I lose friendships, if I lose
Speaker 1: people that don't want to fuck with me, no more,
Speaker 1: that's too bad. At least you will know you can
Speaker 1: get in the honest opinion out of me. Dog.
Speaker 2: But if you're a real friend, then you gonna respect
Speaker 2: that I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't agree with my friends. My friends don't agree
Speaker 1: with me. That's what.
Speaker 2: That's why they my friends because we fight or gets
Speaker 2: it there, And that's.
Speaker 1: Just me keeping the real man because I feel less
Speaker 1: a character flow, right, I feel something. We don't say stuff,
Speaker 1: and I feel we be trying to protect the feelings
Speaker 1: of dudes that don't get a damn about us.
Speaker 2: Right, and I get accused of that so much for
Speaker 2: the last three decades. Why you, Why are you trying
Speaker 2: to tear another black man down?
Speaker 1: Like damn?
Speaker 2: So when you when you check somebody on, they on,
Speaker 2: they bull they bs, that's tearing them down just because
Speaker 2: I got the heart to check them that. You're scared
Speaker 2: because you know I got some you know my word,
Speaker 2: hohold weight. I don't got money, but you know I
Speaker 2: got something else. I got an army in a brotherhood
Speaker 2: that that you can't play with so you can't just
Speaker 2: write me off like I'm broke or bitter or irrelevant.
Speaker 2: So you say you got to say, you got to
Speaker 2: accuse me of hate or something like I'm tearing another
Speaker 2: black man down, Like if he really that solid, if
Speaker 2: these dudes is really that big and they yo idol,
Speaker 2: I can't tear him down.
Speaker 1: Why you worried about it? If I can tear him
Speaker 1: down or not, I'm not. My thing is this, dog.
Speaker 1: I don't do stuff to get attention. I'm not. I
Speaker 1: don't pull the publicity stunts do all right. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna go out and try to find a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of people's paperwork and start trying to do all this
Speaker 1: and that. I'm not doing all that. Dog, I am
Speaker 1: just going to tell the truth. And I think I
Speaker 1: know something about Gradman or so the Gang of Records. Man,
Speaker 1: he has every story career. I'm just telling his brothers. Man.
Speaker 1: When it comes time, man to throw your stuff, take
Speaker 1: a little bit more time into a man. I really
Speaker 1: ask for people's honest opinions, Dude, I trust yourself for
Speaker 1: ask honest opinions. Man, go over your stuff. But I
Speaker 1: know if I'm writing something for somebody though I go
Speaker 1: over a fine tooth come and I actually call people
Speaker 1: who out respect and say, listen this to me, you
Speaker 1: really think about it. I don't want to mess with no,
Speaker 1: Yes man, Dog, Yes man, it gets you in trouble.
Speaker 2: Dog, Well, what about what about under the influence, Like
Speaker 2: if we at a certain age, it could be that
Speaker 2: after years and years of smoking and smoking, maybe you know,
Speaker 2: maybe the brain cells ain't really holding holding.
Speaker 1: Or maybe and I hate seeing this man, maybe even
Speaker 1: maybe trying to bring a few more pins in the room.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, yeah, as long as you ain't trying
Speaker 2: to brag about being a you know, the best, the
Speaker 2: best rapper, because all these people that's claiming the best
Speaker 2: rappers ain't ain't right now on rhyme.
Speaker 1: So we all it's a whole bunch of people. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you right now, Man, Dray can't the only
Speaker 1: dude in town that's getting help with his U. They
Speaker 1: got the mother pinions floating around the room. Dog, it's
Speaker 1: a whole bunch. It's some of the most classic albums
Speaker 1: we don't never heard. Dog don't have people that you
Speaker 1: never would hear of Dog writing the raps in ants.
Speaker 3: Dog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, man, I know a dude from LA right now.
Speaker 1: I tell you I ain't gonna say his name just
Speaker 1: because I ain't trying to listen to no controversy. It's
Speaker 1: a dude in LA writing now, Dog, that got heat
Speaker 1: one of the most he rap his he can get it.
Speaker 1: He couldn't get his own career cracking, but he gonna
Speaker 1: some top nine hits for some big artist, dog man.
Speaker 1: I mean, sh look at and it was so frustrating
Speaker 1: for him with the game though he don't even rap
Speaker 1: no more.
Speaker 2: I understand it. That's just like Michael Jackson. That's not
Speaker 2: what happened to Michael Jackson. But Michael Jackson is the
Speaker 2: king of pop, king of so RB since he was
Speaker 2: ten years old. But he wasn't writing none of them songs.
Speaker 2: He wasn't writing them hits. So he's a he's the
Speaker 2: king of performing, he not the king of writing. Can't
Speaker 2: nobody beat him, you know, performing, but writing, he wasn't
Speaker 2: the writer, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But you know what, though, Dog, the thing is, he's
Speaker 1: a pop artist, right, He's a singer, right, dip prop
Speaker 1: should be different, bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if that's what we buy about it, If that's
Speaker 2: what he bragging about, because that's supposed to be our story.
Speaker 2: If we rapping, we ain't got to worry about holding
Speaker 2: and know of playing no instruments. So we gotta be
Speaker 2: one thousand percent mastery of our own story. We supposed
Speaker 2: to be the masters of ceremony of our own story.
Speaker 1: Nobody else is really supposed to be telling our story
Speaker 1: but us or white whiten our story but us. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna see something. Man,
Speaker 1: you can never call a whoror your X animal niggas
Speaker 1: should be walking on all fours. I used to get
Speaker 1: past us, but they vacated giving folks being done like
Speaker 1: I'm cash traded. See, I ain't gonna be lazy with
Speaker 1: it work. But these niggas too high to fight. It's
Speaker 1: more than likely your favorite rapper, a side of mic clowns.
Speaker 1: Don't bother the game full of lame mass niggas and
Speaker 1: did beat fathers from since the eighties and all the
Speaker 1: flatial Yeah, I'm on my own stick. It form antver
Speaker 1: more when I'm act the smashing, these little bastards trying
Speaker 1: to pull me out the pastor means I don't man,
Speaker 1: I keep my blade sharp, and I'm a podcaster now, dog,
Speaker 1: I don't call myself no rapper, but I keep my
Speaker 1: blade sharp just in case. Bro Well, I you know,
Speaker 1: I you know, we need to we need to do
Speaker 1: something together.
Speaker 2: Then I need to I need to test my blade
Speaker 2: out too, because the biggest records be the ones that
Speaker 2: you don't care. I don't care. I'm not even trying
Speaker 2: to do nothing. I'm just trying to be you know,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be uncomfortable. I'm trying to make people uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: That's that. That's what rapping, hip hop and battle and
Speaker 2: used to be. Say some controversial shiit, say some ship
Speaker 2: that like you said the something about the side of
Speaker 2: my head or something like that. Them in the bars
Speaker 2: I love. I like every bar. I gotta have something
Speaker 2: like that in it. And I want to add fun
Speaker 2: because Kim, what what percentage you say of these rappers?
Speaker 2: Man's down a little due.
Speaker 1: Rappers. If you big, if you a big name rapper.
Speaker 2: That I would say ninety is down low.
Speaker 1: All of these dudes have done something, Man, A large
Speaker 1: force of these rappers are dead beat fathers. How many
Speaker 1: rappers do we know? Who the ninth children? Oh that
Speaker 1: that might be one hundred percent. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, It's like, man, my thing is this. If
Speaker 1: you go out and approcreating, you deny something, bro, just
Speaker 1: because you messed up that you're trying to keep your
Speaker 1: not trying to get up, no money whatever. You're a
Speaker 1: pathetic man, you were saying. Man, Now I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you what I'm not mad at. I'm not mad at
Speaker 1: the dude decided Okay, before I determine, you know, we
Speaker 1: need to go determine that this is my child because
Speaker 1: you might be a woman that don't got around no
Speaker 1: defect to get a test. Once that child has proved
Speaker 1: to be yours, bro, once that child has proven to
Speaker 1: be yours, Bro, you should do the right thing. You
Speaker 1: just can't. How the hell you're gonna hide a whole
Speaker 1: human being through that don't even make sense to me.
Speaker 2: I may hide them from the public or hide them
Speaker 2: from yourself.
Speaker 1: You know what I think, Bro, I think these guys
Speaker 1: have lies at home, right, Like they may have a
Speaker 1: wife or a significant other, someone that they got a
Speaker 1: relationship with, right, and I think they go do stuff
Speaker 1: that ain't necessarily morally correct, and they go up in
Speaker 1: somebody wrong. Get somebody pregnant the girl I'm pregnant. Oh man,
Speaker 1: let's get a test. They found the baby is theirs? Right?
Speaker 1: Hide from the woman that just don't acknowledge it, or
Speaker 1: pay them off or do whatever you know, just to sign.
Speaker 1: But my thing is this, how can you hide a
Speaker 1: whole human being? Bro?
Speaker 2: You made a decision. Take be accountable for your actions. Dog, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it depends on what you mean by hiding them. So
Speaker 2: like I said, I got I got six offspring. I
Speaker 2: hide them, but you know I claim them like you don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not young about that game was. I don't need
Speaker 1: people to know who my kids heal is either, like
Speaker 1: you know, especially when they look right. But what I'm
Speaker 1: seeing me is if you co if you're doing something man,
Speaker 1: and you that says a lot about your character. Me.
Speaker 1: Where if you out running with somebody who you think
Speaker 1: is suspect raw, you just seeing your seat with anybody
Speaker 1: so on your seat everywhere? You irresponsible? Right? These catchers
Speaker 1: have kids, dog, and the kids get older, right, they
Speaker 1: gonna start eventually looking and research and stuff and finding
Speaker 1: out like, hey, now I heard dude is my father?
Speaker 1: He ain't shit? It's so many dudes and they figured
Speaker 1: that's the right thing to do. Dog. They're not helping
Speaker 1: the kids financially, they're not there for them emotionally. Dog,
Speaker 1: they just don't support them. I'm serious, man, I would
Speaker 1: never have nothing in as mind dog out they just
Speaker 1: living any kind of way, I would have to take
Speaker 1: accountability for what I did. Yeah, that's why we're different.
Speaker 2: That's what separates the man from the boys, and the
Speaker 2: week from the tears, and the sheep from the goat.
Speaker 2: So you can't out finest the laws of nature, the
Speaker 2: laws of divine justice.
Speaker 1: What you think you getting away is you're not getting
Speaker 1: away with And.
Speaker 2: It's probably gonna be those offspring that's that's gonna take
Speaker 2: you up out of here.
Speaker 1: They're gonna either cause you the.
Speaker 2: Biggest public humiliation or they gonna take you up out
Speaker 2: of here. So your own enemy, your own conqueror, your
Speaker 2: own biggest op.
Speaker 1: A lot of times come out your own testicles. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, A man's child is his legacy.
Speaker 1: Though me its supposed to be supposed to be. You know,
Speaker 1: I think you have to take that very seriously. Girl,
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna beave the curse existence. I don't
Speaker 1: care how much money you got until you do break.
Speaker 1: But kid, everything you do go, They was done in
Speaker 1: the dark coming to light. Man, And I take that
Speaker 1: very serious.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: If you while you're having kids, dog, I told both
Speaker 1: of my sons, I said, you you ever have the son,
Speaker 1: you ain't taking care of your son. You ain't no
Speaker 1: more thanks yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got some wise words from you know, some
Speaker 2: of my soldiers way back in the days. And and
Speaker 2: I t todd all my sons and like you know,
Speaker 2: don't don't smash nobody that if you got them pregnant,
Speaker 2: you will be sick. You feel you'll feel sick that
Speaker 2: you that you got they got them pregnant. So in
Speaker 2: other words, whoever you smash, and you should be able
Speaker 2: to see yourself have a child with them.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Not run, not run the planned parenthood, but you should
Speaker 2: be able to see yourself a funny even if I
Speaker 2: don't marry or you know what I'm saying, I'm not sick.
Speaker 2: I don't have no problem with with claiming them and
Speaker 2: being their form over that thing.
Speaker 1: And that's my thing. Bro. If you can go out
Speaker 1: and have if you up there have unprotected relations with
Speaker 1: a woman, she'd butter be somebody that she will be
Speaker 1: down and marry. If if if, if she said she
Speaker 1: was pregnant. Oh, you know what, Let's do the right thing.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling you in a way. Let's go, let's go
Speaker 1: get married. That's that's how it should be together. We
Speaker 1: need to go form a union together so we could
Speaker 1: do the best for them that we can. Because, contrary
Speaker 1: to popular belief, when you have a kid, your wife
Speaker 1: and your hopes and your dreams is over with. It's
Speaker 1: all about that baby's hopes and dreams and ambitions now.
Speaker 1: So you need to be there to support them in
Speaker 1: any way that you can. And I want to be
Speaker 1: reached with you. I'll stop listening to caest music as
Speaker 1: I find out they did be fathers and to me,
Speaker 1: that's the most disappointing thing ever. Man, he don't take
Speaker 1: care of his kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that means you can't. When it comes down to us,
Speaker 2: You're gonna leave me for dead.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You can't be if you get
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you like this, anybody, if you get
Speaker 1: with a girl and you see her disrespecting her mom
Speaker 1: and her father, run away from it because if she
Speaker 1: can't respect their mother and father, she damn sure not
Speaker 1: gonna respect you. But at the same time, you a man.
Speaker 1: The nature of a man ain't to rely on a woman.
Speaker 1: So I'm not depending on you to respect me.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put you through certain tests and based on
Speaker 2: how you score and how you rank, that's gonna determine
Speaker 2: how close you're gonna be allowed in my in my
Speaker 2: my life, or in my life at all. So yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't look at women for the same thing women
Speaker 2: looked at us for.
Speaker 1: I just think man like, really, I made a conscious
Speaker 1: decision that I was gonna be responsible, and when I
Speaker 1: did have kids, it was gonna be I was gonna
Speaker 1: have you know, stuff happened, right, stuff happen. You may
Speaker 1: have relationships do that don't work out as long as
Speaker 1: you can't carry your kids, right. I've always said, ding
Speaker 1: I really put efforting of that to me saying, you
Speaker 1: know what.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep all my kids in the same household.
Speaker 2: That's it's possible. And you know, and I got lucky.
Speaker 2: I had one wife and all my kids are with
Speaker 2: the same woman.
Speaker 1: See that is that's rare. That's a needle in a Haystadt.
Speaker 1: You know what, though I was selected with what I did,
Speaker 1: I knew, like I just told you, if you gonna
Speaker 1: lay up with somebody, especially, you're not protecting yourself, did Bud.
Speaker 1: It be somebody that you gets like, man, they're a
Speaker 1: good person, or somebody that you don't mind being stuck with,
Speaker 1: because I'm to tell you there are odds, even if
Speaker 1: you don't want to, Milly you, there are odds that
Speaker 1: y'all can have a child together. Y'all can get a
Speaker 1: child together, even though y'all may say, you know what,
Speaker 1: we're not comfatible as a couple, but we are gonna
Speaker 1: have to co parent this human and make him or
Speaker 1: her a productive, mental, healthy member of society. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to work together. That may means she may
Speaker 1: start getting involved in the relationship. You may establish a relationship.
Speaker 1: That means you need to be honest with some other
Speaker 1: people and say, look, I got a son, I got
Speaker 1: a daughter. You know you and a mom don't got
Speaker 1: nothing going on together, but we cool, we do co parents,
Speaker 1: so you are go see her. If you can't deal
Speaker 1: with that, let me know.
Speaker 2: Now, be honest with people, absolutely, and that's what that's what.
Speaker 2: That's what dude's biggest problem is, is they cow or
Speaker 2: they liars.
Speaker 1: We're liars.
Speaker 2: Most of us are liars, and we will really get
Speaker 2: way more cooperation from the female that we think we'll
Speaker 2: be scaring off if we told them the truth.
Speaker 1: If we taught them the truth and told to.
Speaker 2: Them straight up up front, and you told it to
Speaker 2: them bold, and he told them to it, you know,
Speaker 2: of course respectfully, then she might initially be like, nine,
Speaker 2: I don't want that.
Speaker 1: But then she gonna go.
Speaker 2: Home and think maybe days, weeks go by, whatever, and
Speaker 2: then she's gonna be like, I respect him because he
Speaker 2: told me the truth up front. Because in the meantime,
Speaker 2: she's gonna be calculating the niggas that that had babies
Speaker 2: and extra baby mamas that didn't tell her up front,
Speaker 2: and she'd already dedicated too.
Speaker 1: Much time and energy to them niggas, and then she
Speaker 1: gonna have just baby mama number three. Want to see
Speaker 1: that if she would have got the right information at
Speaker 1: the beginning, she made what said, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: not missed one of him. This dude already got three
Speaker 1: baby mamas. I'm gonna be baby mama number four. Does
Speaker 1: he obviously not'm gona mayor you nobody. He obviously just
Speaker 1: want to just go out and do his thing. Guys,
Speaker 1: y'all need to be honest with them girls when you're
Speaker 1: all out there.
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, just be honest and when And we already
Speaker 2: you know, a shortage of real dudes. If you a
Speaker 2: black dude, they are Black women already outnumber you. So
Speaker 2: they gonna they you know, they gonna play a certain
Speaker 2: kind of role, but they gonna get along and be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'd rather share, you know, fifty percent of a solid
Speaker 2: real man than one hundred percent of no man or
Speaker 2: ten percent or you know what I'm saying, or ninety percent.
Speaker 1: Of a week dude or something like that.
Speaker 2: So if you're telling the truth, that's going that's gonna
Speaker 2: rank higher than a than a fake or weak dude
Speaker 2: that's lying that she got she got all to herself,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's their logic. And this is the thing, bro right,
Speaker 1: And I stand on that. If you are a man
Speaker 1: and you decide, you know what, I am going to
Speaker 1: sleep with this woman, bury back. And I don't think
Speaker 1: people understand when you have sex with somebody, man, that's
Speaker 1: a spiritual thing. Even just think of the physical act
Speaker 1: and the immediate gratification from it. Man, But you actually
Speaker 1: giving them people, you actually giving each other a piece
Speaker 1: of y'all soul in y'all spirit. Yeah, you feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You ain't get somebody, that's that's that's what
Speaker 1: it is. That's why you know weird man. You know
Speaker 1: the creator. I think they created us a certain way
Speaker 1: for a reason. You feel what I mean, that's just
Speaker 1: a little bit. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And and whether you so called protected or not,
Speaker 2: it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: Protection don't stop the.
Speaker 2: Spirit that when he opening, when you opening your body,
Speaker 2: open yourself up, male and female, I don't got nothing
Speaker 2: to do with no protection. You you're doing that spiritual act.
Speaker 2: So it's still the science exactly. So so you sharing
Speaker 2: the spirit with somebody.
Speaker 1: And I remember, man, one thing I saw when I
Speaker 1: was a kid that always had an impression on me.
Speaker 1: You remember how we would go to the high school,
Speaker 1: the junior high. We would go to the nurse's office
Speaker 1: to get something to get it cut, and you get it,
Speaker 1: you know, a banded you know, if you abandoning whatever
Speaker 1: they got the little posters on the wall. I never
Speaker 1: will forget looking at this poster that had these two
Speaker 1: people standing with each other, right, and see it every
Speaker 1: time you sleep with somebody that you're sleeping with, whoever
Speaker 1: they slept with. And it was a thing about herbes, right,
Speaker 1: you know, on the wall of herbes. It showed the
Speaker 1: girl thing had a whole line of people like buying her,
Speaker 1: and we had a whole line of people. And I
Speaker 1: was just like, damn, that's deep, man. So you're taking
Speaker 1: in all the mother people's spirit too. Now, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a whole spiritual component to that. Man, what y'all
Speaker 1: want to get into right now? Cam, I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I know I'm asking people pissed off at me after
Speaker 1: this episode, but y'all get used to it because I
Speaker 1: am going to start telling stuff like the deals. I'm
Speaker 1: not pulling little punches no more.
Speaker 2: Dog. Hey man, you know we at the end, at
Speaker 2: the end of the world, the end of the podcast.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, the end of grace to
Speaker 2: end the patience. So man, let it fly and rawn up.
Speaker 1: I think they just gold on. This might be the
Speaker 1: last episode of Fun twenty twenty four. Let me see, Man,
Speaker 1: let me see. You know what, man, this this is
Speaker 1: the last episode of twenty twenty four. Man, Man, you
Speaker 1: know what, Man, I never thought. Man, it's funny. Man.
Speaker 1: I never thought, dog, that I would be podcasting for
Speaker 1: as long as I had been. Dog, I've been doing
Speaker 1: this and started off with Glasses in twenty sixteen on
Speaker 1: this stuff. You know what I'm saying. Hold On said,
Speaker 1: if I get glasses On here, right, make it official. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I wanna talk to him about gold On. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna see if I give them damn breaking news DJ Academics.
Speaker 1: They're squabbling over at TD Scissor Fire punches her manager.
Speaker 1: I had to talk to the homie Punch and see
Speaker 1: what's going on. Man. You know what, Man, that's the
Speaker 1: thing Man getting artists is rough man. Punch puts in
Speaker 1: the game. He discovered her dog. If Punch probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: have found her doll and talked to her, she probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't be here.
Speaker 2: Man. That's something that we can talk about next time,
Speaker 2: uh or the next episode.
Speaker 1: But I want to see it for him. I don't
Speaker 1: want to see if she can come on real quickly.
Speaker 1: This is last episode to the other year. This is
Speaker 1: last episode of the year Dog. This is crazy, man,
Speaker 1: and in this show itself, man or been through so
Speaker 1: many changes, Man, why ain't you go going to Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he ain't got a ground to that.
Speaker 2: But you know, everything evolved, like we said earlier, even
Speaker 2: about like rap and and our favorite rappers or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know, we're supposed to evolve, were supposed to change.
Speaker 2: So it ain't it ain't It ain't necessarily wrong to change.
Speaker 2: It's just like we want to make sure the change
Speaker 2: is improvement and not the other way a line.
Speaker 1: You know what, Man, I would want to do that. Man,
Speaker 1: eight is a really good podcast partner. Man. I enjoy
Speaker 1: having your man as a host because eight is just cool. Man.
Speaker 1: He don't he don't cause no waves. Man, He's just
Speaker 1: a good dude. You feel what I'm saying. He comes on,
Speaker 1: he does this thing. Man, No, he didn't into the
Speaker 1: stuff like I am. You know, A he gonna keep
Speaker 1: stuff right, He's gonna keep stuff neutral. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, he stuff neutral and that's cool. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna do that, dude. That's why we're gonna probably
Speaker 1: work out even more perfect.
Speaker 2: You know about to say, are you I might be
Speaker 2: a little deeper into stuff than you are, you think,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I know it's all yeah, So we're gonna
Speaker 2: we're gonna figure that out as we go with what
Speaker 2: your envelope is versus what my envelope is, because you
Speaker 2: know I push my envelope away.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a level. It's a level that you
Speaker 1: go camp. I can't go with you down them always, man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know some of us out of state, you know, slide.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, So so say less.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I got you you m U m C eight to me,
Speaker 3: to me, to me, to me you m C eight.
Speaker 2: Like how you say m C eight is neutral to you?
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying to to me?
Speaker 1: You you like m C eight. You know it's level.
Speaker 1: I will go to, man, it is the left luck
Speaker 1: we will go too, but it's certain stuff I might fight.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna make disrespect nobody. And you know what,
Speaker 1: I never disrespect nobody. No, you don't. But you you go,
Speaker 1: you go to a you take it to a certain place, don't, right,
Speaker 1: you take it to a certain place.
Speaker 2: So you you you my you, my governor? You the
Speaker 2: reason why I don't go there? Well, man, I just
Speaker 2: try to keep it just, you know, looking. Sometimes you
Speaker 2: gotta let people know what it is do.
Speaker 1: Right, you know what.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard Q's album yet, Man, I ain't heard
Speaker 2: the whole album.
Speaker 1: I heard two or three songs.
Speaker 2: But uh, like I said, based on the first album,
Speaker 2: and I know the science of a first single. In
Speaker 2: the first video, I was like, I'm good, I'm good,
Speaker 2: I'm good. I did a reaction. You know, I was
Speaker 2: on here when it first came out. I did a reaction,
Speaker 2: and you know, on Digital soap Box, so I said
Speaker 2: my feelings.
Speaker 1: You know, people be hearing this stuff too many. They
Speaker 1: be at these spots watching this stuff and getting mad
Speaker 1: as hell.
Speaker 2: Well, I welcome anybody that gets mad and esteemed to
Speaker 2: come on a campaign podcast right here on Digital Soapbox Network.
Speaker 2: Still might not give you a shine or give you
Speaker 2: a time to speak up, but I welcome that.
Speaker 1: I welcome all the critics, the critiques, the detractors, the
Speaker 1: all of that, the ops. I welcome that.
Speaker 2: As long as you ain't disrespectful and offensive, then I
Speaker 2: love to hear you know, you know, your critique of me,
Speaker 2: and compare me to whoever I'm criticized.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is as to this album is called man
Speaker 1: Down exactly, Man Down, It's my Ego. The album features
Speaker 1: be Real Corrupt Exhibit, Mike Epps, Killer, Mike Bust, The Rhymes,
Speaker 1: the three other members of Mount West. One first single
Speaker 1: is my Ego. I heard the single it's my ego
Speaker 1: and shouts out to d because that's my that's my bro.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I kind I like that track.
Speaker 1: I haven't really wanted to invept on that song. I've
Speaker 1: heard it. I like to beat.
Speaker 2: I thought the beat, yeah, any exit, like I said,
Speaker 2: any anytime you know you hear a beat like I know.
Speaker 1: EHK is a hit maker. He makes hits. He's a
Speaker 1: smash hit maker when it comes to beats.
Speaker 2: But you gotta know how to do justice to his
Speaker 2: beat them.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read the lyrics West Coast. It's just the doses.
Speaker 1: I can't overdose on the whole shit minutes to this
Speaker 1: pimp shit. I've been a minister since an infant. I
Speaker 1: was Kendrick before Kendrick rock and roll all the famer
Speaker 1: like Hendrix. So you can vomit on that bull ish
Speaker 1: or you can choke on your own spit when your
Speaker 1: boys in the pool pit. Try to rob my church.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rob you first. I'm gonna do the funeral
Speaker 1: and drive your hers. I'm gonna hug your mama for
Speaker 1: I steal a purse. I'm gonna hunt your beasts because
Speaker 1: because I'm the curse shaping my verse and reverse. He's
Speaker 1: passed out. Go get a nurse. She passing out from
Speaker 1: vast months of ash to month. I'm cashing out. It's
Speaker 1: is that Red Man? Yeah, Cube a little bit more
Speaker 1: potent than Red Man, though, you know what some of
Speaker 1: his stuff, you know what, man, see, I ain't. I
Speaker 1: haven't listened to that song hard enough man to give
Speaker 1: it no, to give it no real eva, to give
Speaker 1: it no real eva. But I ain't made it that
Speaker 1: I got to hear right? You flow it though? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Well that that's the that's the determining factor, because the
Speaker 2: flow is uh.
Speaker 1: The flow is is is uh waste management.
Speaker 2: The flow is is Thursday morning or Friday morning on
Speaker 2: the curve tricks ash. You said it's boo boo boo
Speaker 2: boo on a stick. Oh man, I want to know.
Speaker 2: I wanted to bring the honey glasses in here.
Speaker 1: Last night. I was talking man, you know this is
Speaker 1: the last episode of the year.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Yeah, we were just
Speaker 2: talking the old bunch of shit. So you're gonna get
Speaker 2: depleted the fifth because you wasn't around earlier. Boy, this
Speaker 2: was the torture. Shame bring early we were told some
Speaker 2: ship torture.
Speaker 1: Chamber man saying, that's about thing twenty twenty five. How
Speaker 1: I talk off the off camera, I'm talking like that
Speaker 1: on the podcast. I'm telling the truth. I'm not holding
Speaker 1: nobody's feelings. I'm not holding nobody's feelings. I don't give
Speaker 1: a damn about no feelings. It's gonna be all with
Speaker 1: what them niggas say. I ain't even gonna say it,
Speaker 1: but I like, this is the facts of a feeling. Shit,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be my opinion over feelings, over your feelings.
Speaker 1: Whereas it is your hands is help. Your hands is
Speaker 1: on point. Man, Hey, it's gonna have to deal with
Speaker 1: the beat. If my hands ain't that point, my trigger
Speaker 1: finger is. I worry, Well, wasn't for killing none of
Speaker 1: these people? Still? You know what, man, I'm telling the
Speaker 1: truth in it. The truth hurts set me free. Need
Speaker 1: to tell the truth, don't you give you opinions long
Speaker 1: as you're in disrespect nobody. Sometimes the truth could be disrespectful.
Speaker 2: Hey man, And you know what I ain't. I ain't
Speaker 2: gonna go back into that. Have you a Red Man's
Speaker 2: new album? No, you heard a Cube new album?
Speaker 1: Some of it? Why ain'tna listen to the whole thing?
Speaker 1: I've really been off gn X that's the next album,
Speaker 1: So good man.
Speaker 2: That's the great answer. What about what about Dolf? What
Speaker 2: about Snoop? What about Snoop and d I ran it through,
Speaker 2: I ran it through once or twice. But what's your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Which one sound the best? Missionary or man, damn, I
Speaker 2: gotta finish.
Speaker 1: Listen to q Botbum. I like Missionary a little bit
Speaker 1: more of first listen, what is it that you like?
Speaker 2: You like like the flow, you like snoop rhymes, or
Speaker 2: you like the beat selection production?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean so there's a there's a nostalgic fill
Speaker 4: of Snoop and dre to automatically come when they rap
Speaker 4: with each other.
Speaker 1: I think not to cut you off?
Speaker 2: Which one do you think retain the standard that we
Speaker 2: used to? Did you think any either one of them
Speaker 2: fell off on on like did did? Did Snoop live
Speaker 2: up to his his standard of lyrics or maybe exceeded it,
Speaker 2: And did Drace live up to his standard of production
Speaker 2: that we that were expect from him or exceeded.
Speaker 1: So Snoop to me, is still culturally where he's supposed
Speaker 1: to be. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: He's saying, I think Dre is going somewhere differently musically,
Speaker 4: but I heard the Marsham Bros. Album, so I expected
Speaker 4: to be kind of a little different. What's dope about
Speaker 4: where he's at?
Speaker 1: To me? What I appreciate.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously I grew up on the same Doctor
Speaker 4: Dre everybody my age did, so it was I got
Speaker 4: more culture from the music versus now where I'm listening
Speaker 4: to him actually really make music. Like I've always said,
Speaker 4: hip hop wasn't about music. Still kind of gets mad
Speaker 4: at me, but hip hop is about culture first and
Speaker 4: music second. And I think with this these records, specifically
Speaker 4: when it comes to Drake part of the production, it's
Speaker 4: music first, culture second. So it's interesting to see. I
Speaker 4: think they made a really bodywork that's indicative wh where
Speaker 4: they at right now. Like some guys that just did
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, oh and some guys that just you know,
Speaker 4: was on the Olympics.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's where they should be since you
Speaker 1: saying they was in a really big, massive on worldwide environments,
Speaker 1: they were supposed to go all and make a bunch
Speaker 1: of pop music.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's the next change, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think same thing for Aerosmith. Aerosmith was
Speaker 4: big in the seventies. You know, by the time they
Speaker 4: got to the late nineties, two thousands, they's making power
Speaker 4: ballots like the song that was a theme song for Armageddon.
Speaker 4: You know, uh, you know what I'm talking about. That
Speaker 4: I could spend my life just to hear you you know,
Speaker 4: that big power ballot they did on Armageddon. So I
Speaker 4: think to watch them try to transition hip hop into
Speaker 4: the pop iconic status like rock bands hard to do,
Speaker 4: you know, before them, is interesting to say the least.
Speaker 2: What about say, like we clearly hear that Dre is
Speaker 2: taking his expression of hip hop his productions somewhere else.
Speaker 2: Do it seem like Snoop was taking his somewhere else?
Speaker 2: Or you see them like so right, Snoop is right there?
Speaker 2: So do it does Did that work? Does that work
Speaker 2: for you? Does it work for for Snoop to be
Speaker 2: giving us what we want from Snoop, but Dre not
Speaker 2: giving us what we want from Dre on a Snoop
Speaker 2: Dre record, Snoop Dre album.
Speaker 1: I mean, as a producer, writer, the show, Jill, it's
Speaker 1: like his his his journey to take it where it
Speaker 1: needs to go.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I think that's the that's a great that's a
Speaker 4: great point.
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, trying to get