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Speaker 1: So that's that's where brother can come in. And there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just truth. Like you know, I'm saying, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, you know when we was little and we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for real. If I don't like something, I'm speak

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Speaker 2: He probably won't because he may feel like that. That

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Speaker 1: Bro. He might not do it, you know, but he

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Speaker 1: He is a leader. You're a leader of the prayer.

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Speaker 1: I'm all with people having dialogue, right, we all ain't

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: I used the N word way more than I should,

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Speaker 1: I was kind of looking at fact Joe like he's

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Speaker 2: Man, Hey, that's our fault. Because we made uncomfortable saying that.

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Speaker 2: So if we're not out raised at us saying that

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Speaker 1: And that's why I said, I don't like being a hypocrite.

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Speaker 2: You can have all kinds of insane, unreasonable ieological rules

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Speaker 2: He got baited in, just like I think Tarit got

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Speaker 1: And see, that's my thing right there. I have heard,

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Speaker 1: I've met that. But I've met other Jamaican people that's like,

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Speaker 2: And Tigain, you know, he real intelligent and you know

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Speaker 1: But it's just once you start going into the name

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Speaker 2: The unnecessary insulting because somebody insulting you, then.

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Speaker 2: where did you Why did you say f DA and

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Speaker 1: You the leader of the popularization of it. So you

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well you know what though, can you ain't never talked?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever met him? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: that he met UH by way of glasses. Glasses got

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was real, real mutual

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Speaker 2: He is a cool brother. Tarika's school as hell man. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he came up with a brilliant movie. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he's he's very dope, man. And when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm always open for that,

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Speaker 2: Resa Risa Islam, which is, you know, twenty maybe thirty

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Speaker 2: a youth. You know, youth moves the revolution. So I

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's a different cause that's

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Speaker 1: fact Joe thing don't warrant says to have no whole

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Speaker 1: hour long conversation, right. I just hope that Joe swallows

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Speaker 2: That bad when we when we avoid getting in front

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Speaker 2: Know, we we love to let our imaginations and feelings

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Speaker 2: You know, it's just an unnecessary thing. I know, the

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Speaker 1: Sure didn't had to handle lead as visceral as he did.

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Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, it was kind of light.

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Speaker 2: So this la let me give you this example. Still,

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Speaker 2: so they want to teach him a lesson or something.

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00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 2: So when the ref ain't looking, they throwing elbows, they actually.

434
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 1: Hit him or whatever. You know, they doing a few

435
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: times and the ref ain't never looking. So he mad.

436
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 2: Now Kobe mad at the ops saying he mad at

437
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 2: the ref you know what I'm saying, because they letting him.

438
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 2: So once he finally take off, the ref is looking,

439
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 2: he get the tech. Now, Now Kobe is the villain,

440
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 2: But really he been responding to something all along, but

441
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 2: nobody else took paid attention or seen it.

442
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: So I think fact Joe might be suffering from that.

443
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it was cool for him to break

444
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 2: the rules and get the technical nigga, you did what

445
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 2: you wasn't supposed to do. But I don't think it

446
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 2: was just out of a vacuum because he just racist,

447
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 2: because that's why he was even calling FBA racist because

448
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 2: he's understanding.

449
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: Never call effect your racists or accused him of being racist,

450
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: because that's not what it is. I think he's probably

451
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: look culturally ignorant to some stuff, but I don't think

452
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 1: he racist. But he said he said FBA was racist. See.

453
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: You know what, though, man, the whole previous of black

454
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 1: people being racist, that's a whole nother that's a whole

455
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: nother conversation. Man. In order to be a racist, in

456
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: order to do we have to be able to ask

457
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 1: some power. But we do got power, he said.

458
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: He's saying that in a sense, he's saying that Tarik

459
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: is rallying together our real power, which is unity in

460
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: not allowing Puerto Ricans to take credit for hip hop.

461
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: So that's how should we allowed him to take credit

462
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 1: for You know what, man, I'm gonna tell you something

463
00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 1: about this country. Right, everything that we've ever done them

464
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: it has been stolen from us, rock and roll, rock

465
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: and roll, stolen jazz. They you know they stole there.

466
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: Everything we've done is kind of been pilfer from us

467
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: and homoginized and made into some other stuff that's more

468
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: palatable for the masses, right and they doing the same

469
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 1: thing that hip hop right now, they're doing the same

470
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: thing the rap right now. You feel what I'm saying,

471
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 1: Everything we've ever had has been kind of like stole

472
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: from us, and then we just get written out the

473
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: whole history of it. Well, yeah, it ain't. It ain't.

474
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: It ain't just never as far as I know, it's

475
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: never really been stolen from a brother tribe. It's we know,

476
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: it's always stolen from the by the Europeans. For but

477
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: for you know, this being the case of Puerto Ricans,

478
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 2: which is mixed.

479
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: With black it's black Puerto Ricans, you know what I'm saying.

480
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: So for for that to be to beef like it's.

481
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: Being stolen or attempting to be stolen by Puerto Ricans,

482
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 2: and then this particular Puerto Rican say, y'all broke ass

483
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: you know FBA's y'all broken inines? Okay, Well that's where

484
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: you that's where you're digging in hole for yourself, fat Joe,

485
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 2: because that's exactly why we banging on you, because we're broke,

486
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: because people like you been robbing us of our inventions

487
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 2: and our creations and taking the credit and getting paid

488
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: for it, and we died broke.

489
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: So you just.

490
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 2: Validated Tarikan and FBA's whole argument by saying that shit.

491
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: Per You know what, I'm very interested to see what

492
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 1: comes to this man over the next few weeks. Maybe

493
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: maybe Fat Joe just be quiet. I hope it go away,

494
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But I don't think this

495
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: go go away no time. Nah, It's not gonna go away.

496
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: And he was fresh off Fat George, fresh off the

497
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, I mean not the super Bowl.

498
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: The World Series. He fresh off of hosting a BT Awards.

499
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 2: He fresh off of rocking with Kamalin Harris, you know

500
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So he seemed like he was way recent,

501
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: just so way ingrained in the system, you know, in

502
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: the in the in these people's system, that it's not

503
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: gonna go away. It can't go away because as we

504
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: waking up, were looking to take down the system and

505
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: all of the gatekeepers and all of the people that

506
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: was in the way. So he's in and he's in

507
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: the wrong place at the wrong time of history right

508
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: now exactly.

509
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: Well, we see what's gonna happen. You know, while we're

510
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: talking about hip hop and all the other stuff, kind

511
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: of want to talk about one of my favorite rappers.

512
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,479
Speaker 1: He just released the new album, Red Man, just dropped

513
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: Muddy walk on too, you know, Muddy waters Per two.

514
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: I know you ain't heard of.

515
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: Cam Yeah, no, so the red Man, Red Man is

516
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 2: my my die.

517
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's one of the most Dailium seasonal You know,

518
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: Redley was known as the Spinner Man. I heard his

519
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: new album, Man, I don't like it.

520
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: That's that's how I think about I think the sign

521
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: about the Missionary album on the ice Cube album, the

522
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: Man Down and the Missionary dressed the same way. I

523
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: think about that. But what what reason don't you like

524
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: the red Man album?

525
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: You know what? Like I said, Red Man is one

526
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: of my favorite artists. Man, so I'm gonna always hold

527
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: him in a different regard. Now. See, I don't want

528
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: to get on here misquotes stuff, man, But I'm really

529
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: big on lyrics, Cammon depth of lyrics right, yeah, me too.

530
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: You sound like you're being lazy. I'm gonna definitely call

531
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: you the right are you're up to? Go on genius

532
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: real quick man, and see if I ca the lyrics

533
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: for this song. Man, But it was something like similar

534
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: thumb dumb, dumb, what do he say? Some want to

535
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: bust bubble guts like And it was just like it

536
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: was really lazy, and I was just like, hum, I say,

537
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: read men, cool this over catts, you know dad this

538
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: white Man. Then they had another song on there man

539
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: called uh light it Up that was like a throwback

540
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: to the Posse cuts, you know that they used to

541
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: have you light it up? Light it up?

542
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: Man?

543
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: It was cool if that's what it was.

544
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: Man.

545
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: But man, this shit sounded like some nineteen ninety like

546
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: like just some unless that's what he was doing. Bro,

547
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: it just sound old and outdated.

548
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: Man, Man talk about it, and he wasn't really busting

549
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: like he should be.

550
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: My thing is this man, we just had l to

551
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: put out an album. Hell was for the fuck getting busy?

552
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: Though I ain't heard, I ain't heard nothing.

553
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: I mean I don't even follow I don't even follow

554
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: rapping hip hop really not my generation.

555
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: I know you're doing this, ain't me. I am not

556
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: dissing red man. This is not personal, but Muddy Waters

557
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: was one of his best albums, right, that's like his

558
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: You know that's just a magnum opus. You feel what

559
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying, so to speak, You know, one of his

560
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: best albums. Right. If you go do a sequel or something, man,

561
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: you better make sure you come correct. I don't like

562
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: the beats on the man. Some of them beat sound

563
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: like some old reject ass house party beats. The sea

564
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: ship like that, man, and it was just a whack

565
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: ass album. Man.

566
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: Man, I mean, you got the right straight, but that

567
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 2: ship was trash. So you're saying it was trash man, Man,

568
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: that's what you said. What you say, what you feel.

569
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't mean red Man is trash. You mean you're

570
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: just saying it this project and maybe I'm taking it

571
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: so personal, man, from what I think about red Man

572
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: as an MC red Man is that dude?

573
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 2: Man? Yeah, Now, you just disappointed in this effort. It

574
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: ain't it on that he's trash. I'm very disappointed. And

575
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: you know what, I think, trash is a disrespectful word

576
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: for it. I'm not gonna call my.

577
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: Brother's art trash man, but it just wasn't good. I'm sorry,

578
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: Red Man. And if this means I never get that

579
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: Red Man interview. It's what it was, man. But I'm real.

580
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: I wish I could have talked to him before he

581
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: put this shit out and told him, don't put it out.

582
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: I'd have told him, listen to try to fix it, man,

583
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,239
Speaker 1: let's try to get it. I just think, man, I

584
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: just think, man, I didn't like it, man, because I

585
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe y'all was the only Maybe I'm the

586
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: only one that feels that way. Just wasn't that good man?

587
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I me personally, man, Like I made a few

588
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: I made a whole album that I still never put

589
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: out with battle Cat, and I let like three or

590
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: four singles, you know, hit hit the internet for free,

591
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: and I knew there was quality. But my I'm not

592
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: trying to prove nothing. You know, some of it, some

593
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: of us or most of us. Like I said, the

594
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: Cube album, you know, I didn't even listen to. I

595
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: just heard one or two songs. That first video just

596
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: turned me all the way off that ego it's my

597
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: ego or something like that.

598
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: But the Snoop and Dre, I listened to that whole

599
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: album and it really, you know, the energy or the the.

600
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what to call it. It seemed like

601
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: they was trying to prove something to each other.

602
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: It wasn't.

603
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: It wasn't even like they was really trying to give

604
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: the people what felt good to them.

605
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: You can tell if you it's a choice. Seemed like

606
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: a chore. That a chore.

607
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: That that Snoop was trying to impress Dre. And I

608
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: don't know exactly who Dre was trying to impress with

609
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: the beat selections or whatever, but it didn't seem like

610
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: they really had the fans in mind. It seemed like

611
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: they was on their own thing, trying to impress each

612
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: other or something, and we just didn't understand it. It

613
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: didn't it didn't resonate with us at all.

614
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think, man, with our oh, with our boys, man,

615
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: I ain't good. I can't call them O Jesus because

616
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm damn near the same age, if not the same age.

617
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: Most of them say temporaries you feel what I'm saying,

618
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: or pears. I don't buy that whole thing where they

619
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: aged they aged, don't know, because there's plenty of veteran

620
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: them sees to be busting you, be buzzing, Cam Trady,

621
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: be getting busy Trady does this, still is maintained his sound.

622
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, do stuff? You know, Snoop

623
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: Dogg for the most part doing stuff. Snoop Dogg still

624
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: a formidable rapper.

625
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: But I mean, like you know, Snoop always been able

626
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: to bust. Snoop is Snoop, So Snoop ain't rappers is

627
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: like Cube is Q. Cube is a businessman, an actor,

628
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: or professional sports owner. So they not I don't think.

629
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: I don't think they really tripping on the rap thing

630
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: like that. Dre is a billionaire on other ventures like

631
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: Beats by Dre or whatever, you know, So I don't

632
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: think they really tripping like that about the money. But

633
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: they are still trying to be relevant or still trying

634
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 2: to show that they got us.

635
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: It reminds me like of Mike Tyson and Jake Paul,

636
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

637
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: At some point, you know, you're not supposed to be

638
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: kind of trying to compete or against the youth.

639
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: You're supposed to stay.

640
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: In your own generation lane. You got it, you go,

641
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: as long as you live, you're gonna have your your

642
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: fan base of people that's our age, and you know,

643
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: and it's cool to have a young feature here and there,

644
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: this and that. But uh, that's what I think. I

645
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: think that we ain't maturing. We ain't rapping about our

646
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: age group. Like the raps that I put out is

647
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: about maturity. I'm not talking about the same stuff quarters too.

648
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm expecting here. Red Man always came with it though. Yeah,

649
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: but what what did you look for from red Man? Punchlines?

650
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: And you look for controversy? Did you look with it?

651
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: I looked for him just I wanted to get that

652
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: funk on their dog. You know he can't. We wanted,

653
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: you know, New Jersey came. That's fun. You. I was

654
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: expect just some of that good old fashioned head banger

655
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: boot y'all. I was expecting yourself. M hm, and there's

656
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: some busting you feel what I'm saying. I don't want

657
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: to hear red Man over the little House tracks dog

658
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: with some the other samples. I don't know what that was.

659
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear him doing that.

660
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: Bro.

661
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: Maybe this just dog, but but this wasn't it baby,

662
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: This definitely wasn't it man.

663
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: Well about the lyrics lyrically, did you did you want

664
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: him to talk about something a fifty year old will talk.

665
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: About or did you just are you? He was still

666
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: doing this thing. He was still you know, he was

667
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: still talking about smoking his weed. I'm a trump trying

668
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: to find the lyrics. Man, to read some of the lyrics. Man,

669
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: I had a problem with lyrics though. I had a problem.

670
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: I had a problem with the lyrics though. I ain't

671
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: go I'm not gonna. I'm gonna tell you who got

672
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 1: busy on the album because he had this song, I

673
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: told you to light it upbreakord with all New Jersey

674
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: had to be got busy on there? Who was that?

675
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he got busy on there. It beat there

676
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: some other some other cats cause you know, New Jersey

677
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 1: got some spinners. Oh yeah, it was my favorite rappers

678
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: come from New Jersey. Yeah. New Jersey definitely got the spinners.

679
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: And that's why I hold red Man to a very

680
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: high regard. He can't do no average stuff, man, he

681
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: not allowed to. I'd rather him not if he go

682
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: do adverts.

683
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, I like, I like, you know, just

684
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: like when he was with red Man.

685
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I like stuff where they

686
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: don't care.

687
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: Like meaning they pushing the envelope and they coming with

688
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: new metaphors or new punchlines, like something that you can

689
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 2: that you there's some degree of difficulty that you put

690
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 2: some clever thought behind.

691
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, some genius thought punch lines.

692
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: So I'm not really into hearing the same thing like

693
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: me personally, Like I don't want to hear.

694
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: About the same thing I heard about in the two Facts.

695
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: My crew a little liddy. That's why we all to

696
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 1: grab titties in the inner city. Whoa whoa, whoa hey,

697
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: we get here, look around, we cook nigga. Whoa whoa,

698
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: whoa hey, we calls heaving. No time for a shook nigga.

699
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: You got bread? Where that your pub money? Nigga, I'm

700
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: wearing that. I'm blessed. Hung little Bernie, May I mean

701
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: cookies right now? We're burner at gun license. Keep it

702
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: on the waist, someting looking Puerto Rican in the face.

703
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: Invest everything, keep nothing in is safe. I'm mad at

704
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: the meal, so you can leave it on the plate.

705
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: Game time. I'm hot, sauce. One of your over women,

706
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: my balls. You wear Gucci nigga knockoffs. Your girl a

707
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 1: rap they give him top off. It's just too many

708
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 1: ABC stuff. Man, you might have matured you might be

709
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: looking for higher quality content, man, I'm just looking for

710
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: him to deliver me. So you know what I think

711
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: it is, man, y'all rappers man has been doing the

712
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: same thing for thirty years. Don't switch up, man. Rappers

713
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: is the only people I know, man, that have a

714
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: successful form of going a be selling the best ribs

715
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 1: on the block, and go switch the sauce up after

716
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: a while. You know what, I'm changed the sauce up.

717
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: I think you supposed to.

718
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: I think that's the skill or art that we that

719
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: we been failing at.

720
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: I think every rapper.

721
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: Is supposed to grow and suppose supposed to add today

722
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: today menu.

723
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

724
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 2: You can still keep that sauce, but you're supposed to

725
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: create new sauces that's just as good or better according

726
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: to the Times.

727
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: And I don't think we do that.

728
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: I think we get stuck trying to do the same thing,

729
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 2: like you said, and we age out.

730
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: We age it. I'm gonna take you go do it perfectly, bro,

731
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: Jush does it perfectly? Man, I've been banging too short

732
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: since I was sixteen. Right, He's a fall and you

733
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: can tell he's a fall with the Times but he's

734
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: still gonna give you the same stuff. He's still too short.

735
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: Well what, in my opinion, what he's evolving with is

736
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: the production. He's staying.

737
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: He's saying the same stuff, But the production is what

738
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: people dance to.

739
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: You don't production. Me thinking about a dog red men

740
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: always had flow. His flow just on somen is aggressive

741
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: with me. Even he would say some crazy stuff back then,

742
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: like with the boom thung dump the thune dam Den

743
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: and still still flap like the hair on don King.

744
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: He just the different that just way more convincing back

745
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: than even though that wasn't no ultrue metaphysical, you know,

746
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: lyrical miracle stuff. He still had the swag when in

747
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 1: the and the beat was just binging with them keys

748
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: bu bump a bump bone. They said that they just

749
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: had a lot of figure in the man. I don't know, listen, man,

750
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: I could be wrong though, I don't know. I didn't

751
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: I didn't hear.

752
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: But I just know the nature of us, and I

753
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 2: know the time that we're living in and our people

754
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 2: are craving war war lord like like controversial, like be

755
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: controversial in your style, still still popular ship, you know

756
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But push the envelope and say some

757
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: new stuff with that same style that you that you

758
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: didn't say before.

759
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: That's what that's what we was attracted to.

760
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: You said some wild ship, you know what I'm saying,

761
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: in a fly away that matched your personality. So they gotta,

762
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 2: I think they gotta find more different subjects to talk

763
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 2: wild shit that's up to date.

764
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: Now, this is what I'm talking about. Hey, Hey, what's

765
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: the deal? Bro? Cannabis five? All of my lingo troub limo,

766
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: my nine out the window. Reggie came, I still got it.

767
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: Gilla House, Nino Brown Hall pushed product in the trench.

768
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: My money don't need a rents. I'll survived. Fourth quarter,

769
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: I plead the fifth. Hey, I rock chains, a hustle hard,

770
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: my chest stout like I'm in the yard. I'm looking like,

771
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: who the fuck are y'all see? I'm gonna count these

772
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: half ass bars in here for you? All right? White say, Hey, hey,

773
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 1: what's the deal, bro cannabis five? All of my lingual

774
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: I accept that right from let them over, nine off

775
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: the window, bla blah blah. Reggie came, I still got it.

776
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: Guilla House, Nino Brown how pushed product and in the trench.

777
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: My money don't need a rents. How I survived fourth quarter?

778
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: I plead the fifth, that's okay. How I rocked? You

779
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: change a hustle hard, my chest out like I'm in

780
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: the yard. I'm looking like, who the fuck are y'all

781
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: my crew got juice? Marlly ma ah um, I shouldn't

782
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: let me see you want to slide bro and meckle up?

783
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: I shipped on the track of bubble Guts. I'm not

784
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: gonna say no more some of that stuff.

785
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 2: So in my right hand, some of that stuff I know,

786
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm gonna because I don't that ain't that

787
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: ain't the stuff that I listen to either way, like

788
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: I would.

789
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: I would have to hear the beat and the hook.

790
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: To me, the beating the hook is going determine whether

791
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: whether I would even listen to that.

792
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because that's just not learning

793
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: that I be on. You want to slide bro lethel

794
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: look ship in the track bubble Guts man, that's he said,

795
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: lauck are y'all my crew got juice? Marley Marrow. Oh,

796
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: that's just such a big old man. That was a

797
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: metaphor and a half right there. You know what, This

798
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: ain't no knock on him, man, I just wish man.

799
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: You just holding and you want to hold him to

800
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: a higher standard that you used to going to a

801
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: higher standard.

802
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: Man, I hold him really to a high regard. I'm

803
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: gonna tell you where I wouldn't disappointed that the track

804
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: that he got with metha man is actually that's that's cool,

805
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: That's that's dope. Okay, So he got with methic man

806
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: is all right, they go good together. They like peanut

807
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: butter and jelly, you know what I mean. Yeah, I'm

808
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: just saying, like, you know, really and I really hate man.

809
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: I almost didn't do this, man. But one thing I

810
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: said in twenty twenty five is I'm gonna start really

811
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: saying how I feel man. Coming off the conversations I

812
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: have off here, I'm not I'm gonna tell you this.

813
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be no phony ass nigga no more.

814
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that in a bad way. But

815
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: I have been kind of fake because I talked one

816
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: way off the camera. Then I get over here and

817
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: I'll be trying to be too political correct. I'm not

818
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: doing that shit. Yeah, I'm not doing it.

819
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 2: No more.

820
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 1: So if people, if I lose friendships, if I lose

821
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: people that don't want to fuck with me, no more,

822
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: that's too bad. At least you will know you can

823
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: get in the honest opinion out of me. Dog.

824
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 2: But if you're a real friend, then you gonna respect

825
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: that I don't.

826
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: I don't agree with my friends. My friends don't agree

827
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: with me. That's what.

828
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: That's why they my friends because we fight or gets

829
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: it there, And that's.

830
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: Just me keeping the real man because I feel less

831
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: a character flow, right, I feel something. We don't say stuff,

832
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: and I feel we be trying to protect the feelings

833
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: of dudes that don't get a damn about us.

834
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: Right, and I get accused of that so much for

835
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: the last three decades. Why you, Why are you trying

836
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 2: to tear another black man down?

837
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: Like damn?

838
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: So when you when you check somebody on, they on,

839
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: they bull they bs, that's tearing them down just because

840
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: I got the heart to check them that. You're scared

841
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: because you know I got some you know my word,

842
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 2: hohold weight. I don't got money, but you know I

843
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 2: got something else. I got an army in a brotherhood

844
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 2: that that you can't play with so you can't just

845
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: write me off like I'm broke or bitter or irrelevant.

846
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: So you say you got to say, you got to

847
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: accuse me of hate or something like I'm tearing another

848
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: black man down, Like if he really that solid, if

849
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: these dudes is really that big and they yo idol,

850
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: I can't tear him down.

851
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: Why you worried about it? If I can tear him

852
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: down or not, I'm not. My thing is this, dog.

853
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: I don't do stuff to get attention. I'm not. I

854
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: don't pull the publicity stunts do all right. I'm not

855
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: gonna go out and try to find a whole bunch

856
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: of people's paperwork and start trying to do all this

857
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: and that. I'm not doing all that. Dog, I am

858
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: just going to tell the truth. And I think I

859
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: know something about Gradman or so the Gang of Records. Man,

860
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: he has every story career. I'm just telling his brothers. Man.

861
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: When it comes time, man to throw your stuff, take

862
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: a little bit more time into a man. I really

863
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: ask for people's honest opinions, Dude, I trust yourself for

864
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: ask honest opinions. Man, go over your stuff. But I

865
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: know if I'm writing something for somebody though I go

866
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: over a fine tooth come and I actually call people

867
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: who out respect and say, listen this to me, you

868
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: really think about it. I don't want to mess with no,

869
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: Yes man, Dog, Yes man, it gets you in trouble.

870
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: Dog, Well, what about what about under the influence, Like

871
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: if we at a certain age, it could be that

872
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: after years and years of smoking and smoking, maybe you know,

873
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: maybe the brain cells ain't really holding holding.

874
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 1: Or maybe and I hate seeing this man, maybe even

875
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: maybe trying to bring a few more pins in the room.

876
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, yeah, as long as you ain't trying

877
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: to brag about being a you know, the best, the

878
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 2: best rapper, because all these people that's claiming the best

879
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 2: rappers ain't ain't right now on rhyme.

880
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: So we all it's a whole bunch of people. I'm

881
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: gonna tell you right now, Man, Dray can't the only

882
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: dude in town that's getting help with his U. They

883
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: got the mother pinions floating around the room. Dog, it's

884
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: a whole bunch. It's some of the most classic albums

885
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: we don't never heard. Dog don't have people that you

886
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: never would hear of Dog writing the raps in ants.

887
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 3: Dog.

888
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, man, I know a dude from LA right now.

889
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: I tell you I ain't gonna say his name just

890
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: because I ain't trying to listen to no controversy. It's

891
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: a dude in LA writing now, Dog, that got heat

892
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: one of the most he rap his he can get it.

893
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: He couldn't get his own career cracking, but he gonna

894
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: some top nine hits for some big artist, dog man.

895
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean, sh look at and it was so frustrating

896
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: for him with the game though he don't even rap

897
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: no more.

898
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: I understand it. That's just like Michael Jackson. That's not

899
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: what happened to Michael Jackson. But Michael Jackson is the

900
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: king of pop, king of so RB since he was

901
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: ten years old. But he wasn't writing none of them songs.

902
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: He wasn't writing them hits. So he's a he's the

903
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: king of performing, he not the king of writing. Can't

904
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: nobody beat him, you know, performing, but writing, he wasn't

905
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: the writer, you know what I'm saying.

906
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: But you know what, though, Dog, the thing is, he's

907
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: a pop artist, right, He's a singer, right, dip prop

908
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: should be different, bro.

909
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, if that's what we buy about it, If that's

910
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 2: what he bragging about, because that's supposed to be our story.

911
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 2: If we rapping, we ain't got to worry about holding

912
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: and know of playing no instruments. So we gotta be

913
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: one thousand percent mastery of our own story. We supposed

914
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 2: to be the masters of ceremony of our own story.

915
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: Nobody else is really supposed to be telling our story

916
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: but us or white whiten our story but us. Now,

917
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna see something. Man,

918
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: you can never call a whoror your X animal niggas

919
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: should be walking on all fours. I used to get

920
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: past us, but they vacated giving folks being done like

921
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm cash traded. See, I ain't gonna be lazy with

922
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: it work. But these niggas too high to fight. It's

923
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: more than likely your favorite rapper, a side of mic clowns.

924
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: Don't bother the game full of lame mass niggas and

925
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: did beat fathers from since the eighties and all the

926
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: flatial Yeah, I'm on my own stick. It form antver

927
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 1: more when I'm act the smashing, these little bastards trying

928
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: to pull me out the pastor means I don't man,

929
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: I keep my blade sharp, and I'm a podcaster now, dog,

930
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: I don't call myself no rapper, but I keep my

931
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: blade sharp just in case. Bro Well, I you know,

932
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: I you know, we need to we need to do

933
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: something together.

934
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: Then I need to I need to test my blade

935
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: out too, because the biggest records be the ones that

936
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: you don't care. I don't care. I'm not even trying

937
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: to do nothing. I'm just trying to be you know,

938
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be uncomfortable. I'm trying to make people uncomfortable.

939
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: That's that. That's what rapping, hip hop and battle and

940
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: used to be. Say some controversial shiit, say some ship

941
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: that like you said the something about the side of

942
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: my head or something like that. Them in the bars

943
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 2: I love. I like every bar. I gotta have something

944
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 2: like that in it. And I want to add fun

945
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: because Kim, what what percentage you say of these rappers?

946
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: Man's down a little due.

947
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: Rappers. If you big, if you a big name rapper.

948
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: That I would say ninety is down low.

949
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: All of these dudes have done something, Man, A large

950
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: force of these rappers are dead beat fathers. How many

951
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: rappers do we know? Who the ninth children? Oh that

952
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: that might be one hundred percent. That's what I'm saying.

953
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: You know, It's like, man, my thing is this. If

954
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: you go out and approcreating, you deny something, bro, just

955
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: because you messed up that you're trying to keep your

956
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: not trying to get up, no money whatever. You're a

957
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: pathetic man, you were saying. Man, Now I'm gonna tell

958
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: you what I'm not mad at. I'm not mad at

959
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: the dude decided Okay, before I determine, you know, we

960
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: need to go determine that this is my child because

961
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: you might be a woman that don't got around no

962
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: defect to get a test. Once that child has proved

963
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: to be yours, bro, once that child has proven to

964
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: be yours, Bro, you should do the right thing. You

965
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 1: just can't. How the hell you're gonna hide a whole

966
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: human being through that don't even make sense to me.

967
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 2: I may hide them from the public or hide them

968
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: from yourself.

969
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: You know what I think, Bro, I think these guys

970
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: have lies at home, right, Like they may have a

971
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: wife or a significant other, someone that they got a

972
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: relationship with, right, and I think they go do stuff

973
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: that ain't necessarily morally correct, and they go up in

974
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: somebody wrong. Get somebody pregnant the girl I'm pregnant. Oh man,

975
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: let's get a test. They found the baby is theirs? Right?

976
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: Hide from the woman that just don't acknowledge it, or

977
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: pay them off or do whatever you know, just to sign.

978
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: But my thing is this, how can you hide a

979
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: whole human being? Bro?

980
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: You made a decision. Take be accountable for your actions. Dog, Yeah,

981
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: it depends on what you mean by hiding them. So

982
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: like I said, I got I got six offspring. I

983
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: hide them, but you know I claim them like you don't.

984
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm not young about that game was. I don't need

985
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: people to know who my kids heal is either, like

986
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, especially when they look right. But what I'm

987
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: seeing me is if you co if you're doing something man,

988
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: and you that says a lot about your character. Me.

989
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: Where if you out running with somebody who you think

990
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: is suspect raw, you just seeing your seat with anybody

991
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 1: so on your seat everywhere? You irresponsible? Right? These catchers

992
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: have kids, dog, and the kids get older, right, they

993
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: gonna start eventually looking and research and stuff and finding

994
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 1: out like, hey, now I heard dude is my father?

995
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: He ain't shit? It's so many dudes and they figured

996
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: that's the right thing to do. Dog. They're not helping

997
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: the kids financially, they're not there for them emotionally. Dog,

998
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: they just don't support them. I'm serious, man, I would

999
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: never have nothing in as mind dog out they just

1000
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: living any kind of way, I would have to take

1001
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: accountability for what I did. Yeah, that's why we're different.

1002
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: That's what separates the man from the boys, and the

1003
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 2: week from the tears, and the sheep from the goat.

1004
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: So you can't out finest the laws of nature, the

1005
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 2: laws of divine justice.

1006
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: What you think you getting away is you're not getting

1007
00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: away with And.

1008
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 2: It's probably gonna be those offspring that's that's gonna take

1009
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: you up out of here.

1010
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: They're gonna either cause you the.

1011
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 2: Biggest public humiliation or they gonna take you up out

1012
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 2: of here. So your own enemy, your own conqueror, your

1013
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: own biggest op.

1014
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: A lot of times come out your own testicles. Man,

1015
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, A man's child is his legacy.

1016
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: Though me its supposed to be supposed to be. You know,

1017
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: I think you have to take that very seriously. Girl,

1018
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna beave the curse existence. I don't

1019
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: care how much money you got until you do break.

1020
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: But kid, everything you do go, They was done in

1021
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: the dark coming to light. Man, And I take that

1022
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: very serious.

1023
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 2: Man.

1024
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: If you while you're having kids, dog, I told both

1025
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: of my sons, I said, you you ever have the son,

1026
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: you ain't taking care of your son. You ain't no

1027
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: more thanks yet.

1028
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got some wise words from you know, some

1029
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: of my soldiers way back in the days. And and

1030
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: I t todd all my sons and like you know,

1031
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 2: don't don't smash nobody that if you got them pregnant,

1032
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: you will be sick. You feel you'll feel sick that

1033
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: you that you got they got them pregnant. So in

1034
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: other words, whoever you smash, and you should be able

1035
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: to see yourself have a child with them.

1036
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1037
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 2: Not run, not run the planned parenthood, but you should

1038
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 2: be able to see yourself a funny even if I

1039
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: don't marry or you know what I'm saying, I'm not sick.

1040
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: I don't have no problem with with claiming them and

1041
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: being their form over that thing.

1042
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: And that's my thing. Bro. If you can go out

1043
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: and have if you up there have unprotected relations with

1044
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: a woman, she'd butter be somebody that she will be

1045
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: down and marry. If if if, if she said she

1046
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: was pregnant. Oh, you know what, Let's do the right thing.

1047
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm feeling you in a way. Let's go, let's go

1048
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: get married. That's that's how it should be together. We

1049
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: need to go form a union together so we could

1050
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: do the best for them that we can. Because, contrary

1051
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: to popular belief, when you have a kid, your wife

1052
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: and your hopes and your dreams is over with. It's

1053
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: all about that baby's hopes and dreams and ambitions now.

1054
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: So you need to be there to support them in

1055
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: any way that you can. And I want to be

1056
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: reached with you. I'll stop listening to caest music as

1057
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: I find out they did be fathers and to me,

1058
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: that's the most disappointing thing ever. Man, he don't take

1059
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: care of his kids.

1060
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that means you can't. When it comes down to us,

1061
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 2: You're gonna leave me for dead.

1062
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You can't be if you get

1063
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you like this, anybody, if you get

1064
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: with a girl and you see her disrespecting her mom

1065
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: and her father, run away from it because if she

1066
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: can't respect their mother and father, she damn sure not

1067
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: gonna respect you. But at the same time, you a man.

1068
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: The nature of a man ain't to rely on a woman.

1069
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: So I'm not depending on you to respect me.

1070
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put you through certain tests and based on

1071
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: how you score and how you rank, that's gonna determine

1072
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 2: how close you're gonna be allowed in my in my

1073
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 2: my life, or in my life at all. So yeah,

1074
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: we don't look at women for the same thing women

1075
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 2: looked at us for.

1076
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: I just think man like, really, I made a conscious

1077
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: decision that I was gonna be responsible, and when I

1078
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,959
Speaker 1: did have kids, it was gonna be I was gonna

1079
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: have you know, stuff happened, right, stuff happen. You may

1080
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: have relationships do that don't work out as long as

1081
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: you can't carry your kids, right. I've always said, ding

1082
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: I really put efforting of that to me saying, you

1083
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: know what.

1084
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep all my kids in the same household.

1085
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: That's it's possible. And you know, and I got lucky.

1086
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 2: I had one wife and all my kids are with

1087
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: the same woman.

1088
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: See that is that's rare. That's a needle in a Haystadt.

1089
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: You know what, though I was selected with what I did,

1090
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: I knew, like I just told you, if you gonna

1091
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: lay up with somebody, especially, you're not protecting yourself, did Bud.

1092
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: It be somebody that you gets like, man, they're a

1093
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: good person, or somebody that you don't mind being stuck with,

1094
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: because I'm to tell you there are odds, even if

1095
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: you don't want to, Milly you, there are odds that

1096
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: y'all can have a child together. Y'all can get a

1097
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: child together, even though y'all may say, you know what,

1098
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 1: we're not comfatible as a couple, but we are gonna

1099
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: have to co parent this human and make him or

1100
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: her a productive, mental, healthy member of society. So we're

1101
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: gonna have to work together. That may means she may

1102
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: start getting involved in the relationship. You may establish a relationship.

1103
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: That means you need to be honest with some other

1104
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: people and say, look, I got a son, I got

1105
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: a daughter. You know you and a mom don't got

1106
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: nothing going on together, but we cool, we do co parents,

1107
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: so you are go see her. If you can't deal

1108
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: with that, let me know.

1109
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 2: Now, be honest with people, absolutely, and that's what that's what.

1110
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 2: That's what dude's biggest problem is, is they cow or

1111
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: they liars.

1112
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: We're liars.

1113
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 2: Most of us are liars, and we will really get

1114
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 2: way more cooperation from the female that we think we'll

1115
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: be scaring off if we told them the truth.

1116
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: If we taught them the truth and told to.

1117
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 2: Them straight up up front, and you told it to

1118
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 2: them bold, and he told them to it, you know,

1119
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 2: of course respectfully, then she might initially be like, nine,

1120
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: I don't want that.

1121
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: But then she gonna go.

1122
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: Home and think maybe days, weeks go by, whatever, and

1123
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: then she's gonna be like, I respect him because he

1124
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: told me the truth up front. Because in the meantime,

1125
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 2: she's gonna be calculating the niggas that that had babies

1126
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: and extra baby mamas that didn't tell her up front,

1127
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: and she'd already dedicated too.

1128
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: Much time and energy to them niggas, and then she

1129
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: gonna have just baby mama number three. Want to see

1130
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: that if she would have got the right information at

1131
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: the beginning, she made what said, you know what, I'm

1132
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: not missed one of him. This dude already got three

1133
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: baby mamas. I'm gonna be baby mama number four. Does

1134
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: he obviously not'm gona mayor you nobody. He obviously just

1135
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: want to just go out and do his thing. Guys,

1136
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: y'all need to be honest with them girls when you're

1137
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: all out there.

1138
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, just be honest and when And we already

1139
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: you know, a shortage of real dudes. If you a

1140
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: black dude, they are Black women already outnumber you. So

1141
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 2: they gonna they you know, they gonna play a certain

1142
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 2: kind of role, but they gonna get along and be like, Okay,

1143
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 2: I'd rather share, you know, fifty percent of a solid

1144
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: real man than one hundred percent of no man or

1145
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: ten percent or you know what I'm saying, or ninety percent.

1146
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: Of a week dude or something like that.

1147
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 2: So if you're telling the truth, that's going that's gonna

1148
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: rank higher than a than a fake or weak dude

1149
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: that's lying that she got she got all to herself,

1150
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:22,959
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1151
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: So that's their logic. And this is the thing, bro right,

1152
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: And I stand on that. If you are a man

1153
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: and you decide, you know what, I am going to

1154
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: sleep with this woman, bury back. And I don't think

1155
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: people understand when you have sex with somebody, man, that's

1156
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: a spiritual thing. Even just think of the physical act

1157
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: and the immediate gratification from it. Man, But you actually

1158
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 1: giving them people, you actually giving each other a piece

1159
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: of y'all soul in y'all spirit. Yeah, you feel what

1160
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You ain't get somebody, that's that's that's what

1161
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: it is. That's why you know weird man. You know

1162
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: the creator. I think they created us a certain way

1163
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: for a reason. You feel what I mean, that's just

1164
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: a little bit. You feel what I'm saying.

1165
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And and whether you so called protected or not,

1166
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 2: it's the same thing.

1167
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: Protection don't stop the.

1168
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: Spirit that when he opening, when you opening your body,

1169
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 2: open yourself up, male and female, I don't got nothing

1170
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 2: to do with no protection. You you're doing that spiritual act.

1171
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: So it's still the science exactly. So so you sharing

1172
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: the spirit with somebody.

1173
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: And I remember, man, one thing I saw when I

1174
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: was a kid that always had an impression on me.

1175
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: You remember how we would go to the high school,

1176
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: the junior high. We would go to the nurse's office

1177
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: to get something to get it cut, and you get it,

1178
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: you know, a banded you know, if you abandoning whatever

1179
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: they got the little posters on the wall. I never

1180
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: will forget looking at this poster that had these two

1181
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: people standing with each other, right, and see it every

1182
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: time you sleep with somebody that you're sleeping with, whoever

1183
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: they slept with. And it was a thing about herbes, right,

1184
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: you know, on the wall of herbes. It showed the

1185
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: girl thing had a whole line of people like buying her,

1186
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: and we had a whole line of people. And I

1187
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: was just like, damn, that's deep, man. So you're taking

1188
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: in all the mother people's spirit too. Now, you know,

1189
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: it's a whole spiritual component to that. Man, what y'all

1190
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: want to get into right now? Cam, I appreciate you.

1191
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: Man.

1192
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: I know I'm asking people pissed off at me after

1193
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: this episode, but y'all get used to it because I

1194
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: am going to start telling stuff like the deals. I'm

1195
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: not pulling little punches no more.

1196
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 2: Dog. Hey man, you know we at the end, at

1197
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 2: the end of the world, the end of the podcast.

1198
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, the end of grace to

1199
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 2: end the patience. So man, let it fly and rawn up.

1200
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: I think they just gold on. This might be the

1201
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: last episode of Fun twenty twenty four. Let me see, Man,

1202
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: let me see. You know what, man, this this is

1203
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: the last episode of twenty twenty four. Man, Man, you

1204
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: know what, Man, I never thought. Man, it's funny. Man.

1205
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: I never thought, dog, that I would be podcasting for

1206
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: as long as I had been. Dog, I've been doing

1207
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: this and started off with Glasses in twenty sixteen on

1208
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: this stuff. You know what I'm saying. Hold On said,

1209
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: if I get glasses On here, right, make it official. Yeah,

1210
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: I I wanna talk to him about gold On. I'm

1211
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: gonna see if I give them damn breaking news DJ Academics.

1212
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: They're squabbling over at TD Scissor Fire punches her manager.

1213
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: I had to talk to the homie Punch and see

1214
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: what's going on. Man. You know what, Man, that's the

1215
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: thing Man getting artists is rough man. Punch puts in

1216
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: the game. He discovered her dog. If Punch probably wouldn't

1217
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: have found her doll and talked to her, she probably

1218
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't be here.

1219
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: Man. That's something that we can talk about next time,

1220
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 2: uh or the next episode.

1221
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: But I want to see it for him. I don't

1222
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: want to see if she can come on real quickly.

1223
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: This is last episode to the other year. This is

1224
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: last episode of the year Dog. This is crazy, man,

1225
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: and in this show itself, man or been through so

1226
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: many changes, Man, why ain't you go going to Yeah? Yeah,

1227
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: he ain't got a ground to that.

1228
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 2: But you know, everything evolved, like we said earlier, even

1229
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 2: about like rap and and our favorite rappers or whatever.

1230
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: You know, we're supposed to evolve, were supposed to change.

1231
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: So it ain't it ain't It ain't necessarily wrong to change.

1232
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: It's just like we want to make sure the change

1233
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: is improvement and not the other way a line.

1234
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: You know what, Man, I would want to do that. Man,

1235
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: eight is a really good podcast partner. Man. I enjoy

1236
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: having your man as a host because eight is just cool. Man.

1237
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: He don't he don't cause no waves. Man, He's just

1238
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: a good dude. You feel what I'm saying. He comes on,

1239
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: he does this thing. Man, No, he didn't into the

1240
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: stuff like I am. You know, A he gonna keep

1241
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: stuff right, He's gonna keep stuff neutral. You feel what

1242
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, he stuff neutral and that's cool. I'm

1243
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: not gonna do that, dude. That's why we're gonna probably

1244
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: work out even more perfect.

1245
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 2: You know about to say, are you I might be

1246
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 2: a little deeper into stuff than you are, you think,

1247
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 2: so yeah, I know it's all yeah, So we're gonna

1248
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: we're gonna figure that out as we go with what

1249
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: your envelope is versus what my envelope is, because you

1250
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: know I push my envelope away.

1251
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: You know, it's a level. It's a level that you

1252
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,959
Speaker 1: go camp. I can't go with you down them always, man. Yeah,

1253
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: you know some of us out of state, you know, slide.

1254
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, So so say less.

1255
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: You know.

1256
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 3: I got you you m U m C eight to me,

1257
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 3: to me, to me, to me you m C eight.

1258
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: Like how you say m C eight is neutral to you?

1259
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying to to me?

1260
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: You you like m C eight. You know it's level.

1261
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: I will go to, man, it is the left luck

1262
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 1: we will go too, but it's certain stuff I might fight.

1263
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna make disrespect nobody. And you know what,

1264
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: I never disrespect nobody. No, you don't. But you you go,

1265
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,439
Speaker 1: you go to a you take it to a certain place, don't, right,

1266
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: you take it to a certain place.

1267
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 2: So you you you my you, my governor? You the

1268
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 2: reason why I don't go there? Well, man, I just

1269
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: try to keep it just, you know, looking. Sometimes you

1270
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 2: gotta let people know what it is do.

1271
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: Right, you know what.

1272
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 2: I haven't heard Q's album yet, Man, I ain't heard

1273
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 2: the whole album.

1274
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: I heard two or three songs.

1275
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: But uh, like I said, based on the first album,

1276
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: and I know the science of a first single. In

1277
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 2: the first video, I was like, I'm good, I'm good,

1278
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 2: I'm good. I did a reaction. You know, I was

1279
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 2: on here when it first came out. I did a reaction,

1280
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 2: and you know, on Digital soap Box, so I said

1281
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 2: my feelings.

1282
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: You know, people be hearing this stuff too many. They

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01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: be at these spots watching this stuff and getting mad

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Speaker 1: as hell.

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Speaker 2: Well, I welcome anybody that gets mad and esteemed to

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01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 2: come on a campaign podcast right here on Digital Soapbox Network.

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01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 2: Still might not give you a shine or give you

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01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 2: a time to speak up, but I welcome that.

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Speaker 1: I welcome all the critics, the critiques, the detractors, the

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01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: all of that, the ops. I welcome that.

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01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 2: As long as you ain't disrespectful and offensive, then I

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01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 2: love to hear you know, you know, your critique of me,

1293
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: and compare me to whoever I'm criticized.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is as to this album is called man

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01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: Down exactly, Man Down, It's my Ego. The album features

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01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: be Real Corrupt Exhibit, Mike Epps, Killer, Mike Bust, The Rhymes,

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Speaker 1: the three other members of Mount West. One first single

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Speaker 1: is my Ego. I heard the single it's my ego

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01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: and shouts out to d because that's my that's my bro.

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01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I kind I like that track.

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01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: I haven't really wanted to invept on that song. I've

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01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: heard it. I like to beat.

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01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: I thought the beat, yeah, any exit, like I said,

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01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 2: any anytime you know you hear a beat like I know.

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01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: EHK is a hit maker. He makes hits. He's a

1306
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: smash hit maker when it comes to beats.

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01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 2: But you gotta know how to do justice to his

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01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 2: beat them.

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01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read the lyrics West Coast. It's just the doses.

1310
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: I can't overdose on the whole shit minutes to this

1311
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: pimp shit. I've been a minister since an infant. I

1312
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: was Kendrick before Kendrick rock and roll all the famer

1313
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: like Hendrix. So you can vomit on that bull ish

1314
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: or you can choke on your own spit when your

1315
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: boys in the pool pit. Try to rob my church.

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01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rob you first. I'm gonna do the funeral

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01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: and drive your hers. I'm gonna hug your mama for

1318
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: I steal a purse. I'm gonna hunt your beasts because

1319
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: because I'm the curse shaping my verse and reverse. He's

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01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: passed out. Go get a nurse. She passing out from

1321
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: vast months of ash to month. I'm cashing out. It's

1322
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: is that Red Man? Yeah, Cube a little bit more

1323
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: potent than Red Man, though, you know what some of

1324
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: his stuff, you know what, man, see, I ain't. I

1325
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 1: haven't listened to that song hard enough man to give

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01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: it no, to give it no real eva, to give

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01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 1: it no real eva. But I ain't made it that

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01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: I got to hear right? You flow it though? You

1329
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Well that that's the that's the determining factor, because the

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01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 2: flow is uh.

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01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: The flow is is is uh waste management.

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Speaker 2: The flow is is Thursday morning or Friday morning on

1334
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: the curve tricks ash. You said it's boo boo boo

1335
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 2: boo on a stick. Oh man, I want to know.

1336
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 2: I wanted to bring the honey glasses in here.

1337
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: Last night. I was talking man, you know this is

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Speaker 1: the last episode of the year.

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01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 2: It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Yeah, we were just

1340
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 2: talking the old bunch of shit. So you're gonna get

1341
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 2: depleted the fifth because you wasn't around earlier. Boy, this

1342
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 2: was the torture. Shame bring early we were told some

1343
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: ship torture.

1344
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: Chamber man saying, that's about thing twenty twenty five. How

1345
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: I talk off the off camera, I'm talking like that

1346
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: on the podcast. I'm telling the truth. I'm not holding

1347
01:06:55,680 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: nobody's feelings. I'm not holding nobody's feelings. I don't give

1348
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: a damn about no feelings. It's gonna be all with

1349
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: what them niggas say. I ain't even gonna say it,

1350
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: but I like, this is the facts of a feeling. Shit,

1351
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be my opinion over feelings, over your feelings.

1352
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 1: Whereas it is your hands is help. Your hands is

1353
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: on point. Man, Hey, it's gonna have to deal with

1354
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: the beat. If my hands ain't that point, my trigger

1355
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: finger is. I worry, Well, wasn't for killing none of

1356
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: these people? Still? You know what, man, I'm telling the

1357
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: truth in it. The truth hurts set me free. Need

1358
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: to tell the truth, don't you give you opinions long

1359
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: as you're in disrespect nobody. Sometimes the truth could be disrespectful.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, And you know what I ain't. I ain't

1361
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 2: gonna go back into that. Have you a Red Man's

1362
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 2: new album? No, you heard a Cube new album?

1363
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: Some of it? Why ain'tna listen to the whole thing?

1364
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: I've really been off gn X that's the next album,

1365
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: So good man.

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01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: That's the great answer. What about what about Dolf? What

1367
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,919
Speaker 2: about Snoop? What about Snoop and d I ran it through,

1368
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 2: I ran it through once or twice. But what's your thoughts?

1369
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 2: Which one sound the best? Missionary or man, damn, I

1370
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 2: gotta finish.

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Speaker 1: Listen to q Botbum. I like Missionary a little bit

1372
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: more of first listen, what is it that you like?

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01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: You like like the flow, you like snoop rhymes, or

1374
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: you like the beat selection production?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean so there's a there's a nostalgic fill

1376
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 4: of Snoop and dre to automatically come when they rap

1377
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Speaker 4: with each other.

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Speaker 1: I think not to cut you off?

1379
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Speaker 2: Which one do you think retain the standard that we

1380
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 2: used to? Did you think any either one of them

1381
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 2: fell off on on like did did? Did Snoop live

1382
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 2: up to his his standard of lyrics or maybe exceeded it,

1383
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,879
Speaker 2: And did Drace live up to his standard of production

1384
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 2: that we that were expect from him or exceeded.

1385
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 1: So Snoop to me, is still culturally where he's supposed

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01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: to be. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: He's saying, I think Dre is going somewhere differently musically,

1388
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,560
Speaker 4: but I heard the Marsham Bros. Album, so I expected

1389
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 4: to be kind of a little different. What's dope about

1390
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 4: where he's at?

1391
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: To me? What I appreciate.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously I grew up on the same Doctor

1393
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 4: Dre everybody my age did, so it was I got

1394
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 4: more culture from the music versus now where I'm listening

1395
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 4: to him actually really make music. Like I've always said,

1396
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 4: hip hop wasn't about music. Still kind of gets mad

1397
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 4: at me, but hip hop is about culture first and

1398
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 4: music second. And I think with this these records, specifically

1399
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 4: when it comes to Drake part of the production, it's

1400
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 4: music first, culture second. So it's interesting to see. I

1401
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 4: think they made a really bodywork that's indicative wh where

1402
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 4: they at right now. Like some guys that just did

1403
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, oh and some guys that just you know,

1404
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 4: was on the Olympics.

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01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: Do you think that's where they should be since you

1406
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,879
Speaker 1: saying they was in a really big, massive on worldwide environments,

1407
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: they were supposed to go all and make a bunch

1408
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: of pop music.

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01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's the next change, you know.

1410
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I think same thing for Aerosmith. Aerosmith was

1411
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 4: big in the seventies. You know, by the time they

1412
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 4: got to the late nineties, two thousands, they's making power

1413
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 4: ballots like the song that was a theme song for Armageddon.

1414
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 4: You know, uh, you know what I'm talking about. That

1415
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 4: I could spend my life just to hear you you know,

1416
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 4: that big power ballot they did on Armageddon. So I

1417
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 4: think to watch them try to transition hip hop into

1418
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 4: the pop iconic status like rock bands hard to do,

1419
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,560
Speaker 4: you know, before them, is interesting to say the least.

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01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 2: What about say, like we clearly hear that Dre is

1421
01:10:56,479 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 2: taking his expression of hip hop his productions somewhere else.

1422
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 2: Do it seem like Snoop was taking his somewhere else?

1423
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 2: Or you see them like so right, Snoop is right there?

1424
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 2: So do it does Did that work? Does that work

1425
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 2: for you? Does it work for for Snoop to be

1426
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 2: giving us what we want from Snoop, but Dre not

1427
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 2: giving us what we want from Dre on a Snoop

1428
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 2: Dre record, Snoop Dre album.

1429
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: I mean, as a producer, writer, the show, Jill, it's

1430
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: like his his his journey to take it where it

1431
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: needs to go.

1432
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 4: Honestly, I think that's the that's a great that's a

1433
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 4: great point.

1434
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, trying to get