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Speaker 1: and welcome back George and Ri here with Mary Ochino,

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Speaker 1: the world renowned psychic intuitive medium. Mary, your take on reincarnation,

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Speaker 1: give me your thoughts on that? Oh wow? My take

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Speaker 1: is I totally believe in it, even though I brought

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Speaker 1: up not thinking about it, but I always felt, you know,

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Speaker 1: if I look in a mirror, That's what I try

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Speaker 1: to explain when I first came upon a feeling different

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Speaker 1: and wasn't just like psychologically, when a blat of people

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Speaker 1: say you look at mirror, don't know who you are?

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Speaker 1: That could be a psychological thing, you know, just don't

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Speaker 1: know who was that moment you go something through the

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Speaker 1: things in life. This is what I used to feel

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Speaker 1: a lot of times when I looked in the mirror.

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Speaker 1: It's like, that's not the person that I see the

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Speaker 1: actually like would photographs me. And And it wasn't until

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Speaker 1: I was about twenty two twenty three years old that

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Speaker 1: I could actually see who I was, the real Mary

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Speaker 1: and uh and it was I was seeing what I

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Speaker 1: really I realized is a past life. There was a

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Speaker 1: different person, different attire, and it would come back and

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Speaker 1: forth into my uh in in my present day life.

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Speaker 1: It was like a week could go by and I

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Speaker 1: would see myself normally, like you would see like a

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Speaker 1: picture of yourself. You would see what you look presently,

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Speaker 1: and then I look in the mirror again and it

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Speaker 1: would be somebody else. Like it was so in my

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Speaker 1: had it was constantly is this another spirit? Is this me?

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Speaker 1: It was me? It was me talking. And but then

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Speaker 1: I did um. I just lay down one day and

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Speaker 1: I just said, okay, let me just clear my mind

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Speaker 1: and find out who is trying to talk to me.

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Speaker 1: And in my own consciousness, in my my subconscious collective consciousness,

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Speaker 1: and I was brought back. And this is not self

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Speaker 1: hypnosa anything else. It was just just clearing my mind,

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Speaker 1: brought back in time, just brought back in time. And

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Speaker 1: I saw, and I knew it was me. I knew

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Speaker 1: or you know this great great psychic things. Now it

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Speaker 1: saw a whole vision of me, like like a day

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Speaker 1: before she was walking. Now she couldn't walk. And he

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Speaker 1: And I said, ah, now I know why I have

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Speaker 1: multiple scrosis today because I had to learn what it

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Speaker 1: was like to be that woman Lane in their bed.

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Speaker 1: It follows you, doesn't it. It does, and you've learned

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Speaker 1: by the lessons, But you can't make it define you.

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Speaker 1: and that's how how we find out about past lives

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Speaker 1: um and we we usually do. Families do come back together,

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Speaker 1: but you talk about present journeys. What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Because we've had people want to know what their past

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Speaker 1: What did I learn? Because this, like when I saw myself,

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Speaker 1: many past lives can somebody have, They've said things like thousands,

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Speaker 1: I'm never I've never read anybody who had thousands of lives.

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Speaker 1: I've picked up about thirty three lives. Uh. But you

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Speaker 1: person was a miscarriage, right because on conception, the soul begins,

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Speaker 1: even though even though there was a miscarriage and they

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Speaker 1: so that's a that's a life, even though it may

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Speaker 1: have not lived to fifty years old. So yeah, you

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Speaker 1: everybody was a prominent person in that other life. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: been a synchronicity if something similar who they were? Mary,

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Speaker 1: What have you learned dabbling with the other side. What

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Speaker 1: known before? What do you mean dabbling Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: I would never owe my mouth because I don't know

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Speaker 1: That's a brother or cousin, but sucks a male who's

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Speaker 1: You stay in that zone and you don't worry about

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Speaker 1: if it doesn't sound normal to your in your mind,

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Speaker 1: and with with the universe, the universe talking to us

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Speaker 1: all the time through synchronicities. Synchronicities are coincidences that that

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