1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: In a world where technology continues to advance at breakneck speeds, 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: education is evolving to meet the needs of the future. 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Years ago, if you were told that the average person 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: would have a STEM job, that is, a career in science, technology, engineering, 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: or math, a natural assumption would be that the world 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: had progressed to most people having advanced degrees. On the contrary, 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: it is the technology that progresses and with it our 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: ability to keep up with the times. When I was 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: growing up, our classroom only had one computer for all 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: of us to share. Now my children have their own 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: individual iPads and laptops to research, create and learn. It's 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: amazing how far we have come with using technology to 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: educate our young With their early adoption of technology comes 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: to added responsibility of preparing them for how to use 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: technology for their future occupations. For many students, those jobs 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: will begin sooner than graduating from cos Whether it is 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: learning to manage a small team of AI powered self 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: service machines at the local grocery store, or learning coding 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: skills to oversee a large autonomous robotic warehouse. Education is 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: shaping a brighter future, one student at a time. Hey, there, 21 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm grain class and this is technically speaking. An Intel podcast, 22 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: the show is dedicated to highlighting the technology is revolutionizing 23 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: the way we live, work and move. In every episode, 24 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: we'll connect with innovators in areas like artificial intelligence to 25 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: better understand the human centered technology they've developed. We tend 26 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: to see an education and STEM that is science, technology, engineering, 27 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: and maths as something that's highly academic, involving several years 28 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: in high education. Most of the guests on the series 29 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: have graduated from some of the top universities around the world, 30 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: or even developing AI tools before they entered college. While 31 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: it is true that AI and technology are being innovated 32 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: by some of the greatest minds in the world, those 33 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: minds aren't always acquiring their skills the same way because 34 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: it's not always about the degrees that you have, but 35 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: your passion for knowledge and your ability to learn. One 36 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: of the recurring themes for me in recording this series 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: is how AI tools have made things more accessible for 38 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: people around the world. However, it is important for education 39 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: around AI and machine learning to be accessible as well. 40 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: In this episode, i'll explore how learning AI is becoming 41 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: more accessible with the help of Intel's AI for Workforce program. 42 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: Before we get into it. Let me introduce our guest 43 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: jotting me now is the lead faculty of Intel's AI 44 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: for Workforce program at Chandler Gilbert Community College. Habib Mattah 45 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: Habib was considered a child prodigy in STEM, beginning his 46 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: collegiate career at the Chandler Gilbert Community College before graduating 47 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: from Arizona State University at age sixteen. Following up his 48 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: bachelor's with the mark in Computer Science, Habib went on 49 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: to become a production lead at Intel, where he oversaw 50 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: the analysis of statistics and led a team of manufacturing engineers. Ultimately, 51 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: it was his love for AI and STEM that inspired 52 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: him to transition into education. He wants to be the 53 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: catalyst and making AI tools a part of the education 54 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: system permanently and ensuring that a new generation of kids 55 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: are fully immersed instead education. Welcome have you, It's good 56 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: to be here. 57 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: Wow. I couldn't have written that. That's one of the 58 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: best introductions I've heard ever, So thank you so much. 59 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: It wasn't from chat GPT either. 60 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: I was about to say that, but well, I get 61 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: it up with those jokes already, being an AI professor. 62 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. So I mean, I have a 63 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: son who's twelve and he's just started high school. You 64 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: started college at age twelve, and I can't imagine him 65 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: heading off to universe. So your early achievements are really remarkable. 66 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: What did that experience teach you about learning stem tools 67 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: at an early age and how has it shaped your 68 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: approach to teaching. 69 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: So a small correction there, I was one year older. 70 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: I was thirteen when I started, okay, and I was 71 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: that's just, I know, not a big deal in terms 72 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 2: of age. So I was going into eighth grade, and 73 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: at the time, I always knew that I was going 74 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 2: to do some kind of engineering because my dad is 75 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: an electrical engineer, and I wanted to see if it 76 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: was possible to accelerate that process. I had no idea 77 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: what the college space would have been like and how 78 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: I would have came out on the other side of it, 79 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: but I knew that my dad worked there at Chandler 80 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: Gilbert Community College as well as my mom does as well. 81 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 2: She's an English faculty, and so I knew i'd be 82 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 2: in a safe place going to the community college, and 83 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: I'd be around family when I'm not in classes. So 84 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: I just ventured out into that big world. I didn't 85 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: really even realize that everyone around me was, you know, 86 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: five or six years older. I was so focused on 87 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 2: reaching that goal of becoming an engineer like my dad. 88 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: And it was actually quite interesting that you said that 89 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: your father was an electrical engineer. My dad was an 90 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: electronic engineer, and I remember spending quite a bit of 91 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: time in his workshops at a young age. Perhaps tell 92 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: me a little bit more, I mean of his influence 93 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: on yourself going up. 94 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: Well, it's an influence of his and as well as 95 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: the culture. My name's Habib, which is Lebanese. It's actually 96 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 2: my grandpa's name. And part of the Lebanese culture is 97 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: is that you become either a doctor, a lawyer, or 98 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: an engineer, right, and so I had to choose one 99 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: of those, and I wasn't too good with blood, and 100 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: so engineer definitely was that. On top of that, my 101 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: dad would give me little incentives growing up. So I 102 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 2: was super video games and he would say, okay, I'll 103 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: give you one dollar for every math sheet that you do. 104 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: So I would do these large multiplication tables just so 105 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: I can get like one dollar and save up for 106 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: that game I wanted. 107 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: Ah, that's cool. I mean, I remember my dad giving 108 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: me sort of logic puzzles and numerical puzzles as well. 109 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: Going out. You didn't give you any money though, that's 110 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: crying shame. So yeah, so I'm quite interested in the 111 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: whole accelerated program that you went through. What sort of 112 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: challenges are there for students to get access to that 113 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: sort of program. 114 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: We had found that if I went through homeschooling and 115 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: tested out of homeschooling, then that could get me admitted 116 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: into the community college. Once I started that process, all 117 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: I did was a placement test, which is very standard 118 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: across all community college goers. To do this placement test, 119 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: I tested into like the hundreds, so not even the 120 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: one hundred classes because again I'm thirteen. But within a 121 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: year I was able to begin my program similarly to 122 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 2: someone who had just got out of high school. From there, 123 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: my memory of the time was very normal, Like the 124 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: students around me were all pretty mature. I was able 125 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: to talk to the other nerds and play video games 126 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: with them, and so I had found myself in a 127 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: pretty fun community that was quite nice. And actually I 128 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: have people that I've talked to in my life that 129 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: have kids and they've had their own kids go through 130 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: that route as well. 131 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: Despite spending most of his childhood becoming a scholar and STEM, 132 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: his passions lie in teaching and helping others. This education 133 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: is valuable to have even when you're not working in 134 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: a STEM field. In such a role as an engineer, 135 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: just having that sort of background can help others better 136 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: understand the technologies we engage with regularly. If you've ever 137 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: had to help a grandparent use a phone or printer, 138 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: you know the exact challenges of helping others become tech savvy. 139 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: In terms of the role now that you have at 140 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: the college, maybe you could give a little bit of 141 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: a summary. What are the courses, what are the programs 142 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: that you're teaching there? 143 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, So when I transitioned from working at Intel into 144 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: Chandler Gilbert, Intel approached us saying, we have a high 145 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: school program that we're using in I believe Singapore for 146 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: teaching AI. Is there any way we could take this 147 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 2: high school program and make it into like a two 148 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: year vocational program. And so my background was in computer 149 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: science and AI, and I had already been working at 150 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: Intel and I had family at Chandler Gilbert. Right, So 151 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: it's like this perfect marriage between the three. And so 152 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: the program I teach at Chandler Gilbert is in essence 153 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: that it's a two year vocational program for someone to 154 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: learn about artificial intelligence. Now, we started this in twenty nineteen. 155 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 2: This was before chat GPT and the boom a popularity 156 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: of AI. So what my focus has been since twenty 157 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 2: nineteen is how can I give my students marketable skills 158 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: while still keeping it accessible Because typically AI is a 159 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: graduate field right now you have to have a master's 160 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: or a PhD to learn about the topic. How can 161 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: I keep this field accessible to learn as well as 162 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: marketable with the skills that they do learn throughout the 163 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,359 Speaker 2: two year program. And so we have six different classes 164 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: that we teach following that goal. Intro to AI is 165 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: one of them, intro to Machine Learning, intro to Natural 166 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: Language Processing, so this is, you know, how does SII 167 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: know what when you say Hey Siri? Or how can 168 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: chat GPT seem to understand the text that you write? 169 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: Then we have computer vision, where it's how do cars 170 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: driving on the road see other cars and pedestrians and 171 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: no one to stop. The last two classes are intro 172 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 2: to Business Solutions. We actually have an employee from Intel 173 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: teaching that class, giving students important aspects of what work 174 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: looks like in AI, like benchmarking and copyright issues that 175 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 2: come with data. And then we have a capstone class 176 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: where the students get a whole semester to explore an 177 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: AI project. 178 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: Well that's all in two years. Two years, yes, Well 179 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: that's impressive. And in terms of getting into that sort 180 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: of program, what are the some of the prerequisites that 181 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: students have to have before joining in. 182 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 2: So we're a community college and we want to keep 183 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: this as accessible as possible. So our first class, Intro 184 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: to AI, also named AIM one hundred. AIM stands for 185 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: AIM machine Learning and it was a funny, you know, 186 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: acronym to put there. But it's no prerequisites to join 187 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: our first course. Now, our next class, AIM one ten, 188 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: which is intro to Machine Learning, has a prerequisite of 189 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: statistics as well as intro to Python, so you'll need 190 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: to know a little bit of Python and statistics. 191 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: Just for everyone's benefit. Python is a popular computing language 192 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: which actually has a lot of free resources for anyone 193 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: to look up and be able to code their own 194 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: AI machine learning programs. So, Habi, do you know if 195 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: this program is trying to be replicated in other community colleges. 196 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: That's actually at the heart of AI for Workforce. So 197 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: I'm the lead faculty at Chandler Gilbert, but I played 198 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: a role in helping advise AI for Workforce and now 199 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: they're their own separate entity. So what we had at 200 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: our campus last week was a summit hosted are at 201 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: Channel Gilbert campus called the AI Teaching and Learning Summit, 202 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: So we had one hundred different folk faculty and administrators 203 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: from across the country and even Canada come to our 204 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: campus and try and learn about building their own AI 205 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: programs within their institutions. Well, one of the leaders of 206 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: AI for Workforce came and talked about I think they've 207 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: reached somewhere between thirty two to forty eight community colleges 208 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 2: in the country. They've almost hit every single state in 209 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: terms of a community college within the state. So they 210 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: have that many community colleges that have at least taken 211 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: the INTEL training that they have available now, which is 212 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: available for free, to build programs within their own college. 213 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: In terms of who I see that has full fledged programs, 214 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: think there's only like four or five colleges that I'm 215 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: aware of in the country that have an associates or 216 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: a certificate in AI at a community college level. 217 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a quick break. Welcome back 218 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: to Technically Speaking, an Intel podcast. I'd like to get 219 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: your thoughts on any data or trends in the job 220 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: market around the significance of learning about AI, and is 221 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: that demand still there and do you see that growing 222 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: and in which areas and which industries do you see 223 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: the best potential for your students going through that program. 224 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: It's a hard marker to pin on right now because 225 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: it's such an emerging field. There's different routes you could 226 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: see AI, this large field of AI going right now. 227 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: So I'll start from the most beginner level. You have 228 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: people who are like prompt engineers who use something like 229 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: chat GPT, these very industry wide models and are able 230 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 2: to interface with that system such that they get autonomous outputs, 231 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: automatic outputs that increase productivity and reduce the amount of 232 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: work that someone would need to do. Right That prompt 233 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: engineer is a great field for someone who's entry into 234 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: the AI space. Right It doesn't need nearly as much 235 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: math or programming even and there's actually a lot of 236 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: drag and drop interface to perform AI modeling platforms where 237 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: you can kind of input data, drag and drop what 238 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: you need and then get some meaningful output. I can't 239 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: say that I target that too much right now because 240 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: there's not a lot of stability there just yet. Chat 241 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: GPT is still relatively new, no code tools, it's very specified, 242 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: So I focus more on level two. I would say, 243 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: you can hear my video games speak come out. Level 244 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: two is they have some coding. They're like a software developer, 245 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:22,479 Speaker 2: but more equipped to tackle problems that could evolve automation 246 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: of let's say text and images, have some of the 247 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: data analytics background as well to analyze and process data, 248 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: come up with systems that automatically process that data and 249 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: give meaningful output. So they have to have a little 250 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: bit of math to understand how that data is being 251 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: inputed and what the story is behind the data is 252 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: what I typically say. And then they have to have 253 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: some programming, because if you stick with only no code tools, 254 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: you're very limited to what those no code tools can offer. 255 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: With programming, it opens the doors. So that's level two 256 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: and that's where I try and keep my students. These 257 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: concepts in AI can get very sticky mathematically very quickly, 258 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: and I can't expect a two year student to be 259 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: at that level of foundation. So then level three is 260 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: that they have a very solid mathematical foundation to where 261 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: pretty much any AI algorithm I throw at them they 262 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: can at least orient themselves to quite quickly. Someone with 263 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: a master's background or a bachelor's background can do this, right. 264 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: You come into a new class and it's like, oh, 265 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: that's just the formula I've seen before kind of but 266 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: just in a different way. 267 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: Ye gotcha. 268 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: And then the programming expertise of let's say, Okay, we're 269 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: not going to do this in Python, now we're going 270 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: to do this in R. They know so many programming 271 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: languages at that point that they can kind of easily 272 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: switch between the two for a quick prototype. So I 273 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: see that as level three three, So right now, I 274 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: target that level too. 275 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: Okay, just previously, you talked a little bit about some 276 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: of the student projects that can be quite exciting for 277 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: both the teachers and the students, a like, is there 278 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: just one that is top of your brain right now 279 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: that is quite exciting that you're working on with your students. 280 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: So the one I do is I have them create 281 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: an automatic bubble sheet scanner. So they take a photo 282 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 2: with their phone and they should be able to grade 283 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: a bubble sheet just based off of a photo. So 284 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: I teach them all about things like how to detect 285 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 2: the bubbles on a sheet, how to know which position 286 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 2: is where on the sheet. It doesn't automatically tell you 287 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: where it is, so you have to do that and 288 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: then sort them in a list that the top left 289 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 2: is zero and then go on from there all the 290 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: way down. Gotcha, And then to know whether or not 291 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: it's filled. So that's about an eight week process, not 292 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: that one project, but what leads up to that project. 293 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 2: So then let's jump into I guess the capstone projects 294 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: where my students are out in the wild West, right. 295 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 2: I have students who do stock market prediction brain tumor 296 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 2: detection based off of MRI or CT scans. One of 297 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 2: my students is a musician, so he likes to handwrite 298 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: his musical notes and he wants to be able to 299 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 2: take a picture and have it be electronically printed. I've 300 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: had a student who won actually an Intel competition taking 301 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: brain wave EEG data and trying to detect if there 302 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: is an epileptic seizure occurring within that data. I think 303 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: what I find is is that I'm always amazed that 304 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 2: I give them these little seedlings of knowledge and then 305 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: that capstone project comes around and they just grow without 306 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 2: me even being there. 307 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Habib, you mentioned a lot of people need graduate 308 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: level degrees to work in AI. Right now, what path 309 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: have you seen your students go through after these courses? 310 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: Have they said it's opened any doors for them? 311 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 2: So one of the big challenges we're trying to tackle 312 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: on the community college AI education side is pathways for 313 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: students upon graduation. Right it's pretty bleak in terms of 314 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: having a two year degree and meeting minimum jow brecks. 315 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 2: Our college actually is beginning to offer or developing a 316 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: bachelor's degree in AI to alleviate that issue. But I'm 317 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 2: seeing that they're still finding positions because of how marketable 318 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 2: AI skills are. Right now, it may not be, you know, 319 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 2: an engineer, but it could be, Hey, here's an entry 320 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 2: level role at a company, but it's easier for them 321 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: to get through the door because they have these marketable skills. 322 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: And in your view, how do you see the future 323 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: of AI in the workplace And what's your number one 324 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: reason that you tell the younger generation and students why 325 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: AI tools are so important to learn. 326 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: You know, when AI was first emerging, let's say chat 327 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 2: GPT right into popularity, everyone was like, AI is going 328 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: to replace jobs, and actually there's been a new keynote 329 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: I guess that people have been saying, which is people 330 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 2: who have AI skills will be better equipped than those without. 331 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: I completely agree on that note, because we work so 332 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 2: much with technology. If we're better to interface with that technology, 333 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: we're going to be that much more productive. We can 334 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: tackle much more complex problems in a shorter amount of time, 335 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: and so I see the future workforce being able to 336 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: be once again more productive utilizing these tools. I mean 337 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: when you're typing an email and gmails like hey, here's 338 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: the rest of that sentence. Yeah right, it's just so 339 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: convenient and it helps ease the amount of hand to 340 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: paper work we have to do. And we can now 341 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: be more creative with that time and solve more nuanced, 342 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: more complex problems because we have these systems better ready 343 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: to assist us. So someone like me and you can 344 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: do a lot more with this lifespan that we have. 345 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: We can develop, create ID eight more things because we 346 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: have more time to do so. 347 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: The way Habib looks at AI as a tool in 348 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: assisting the workflow reminds me of the invention of the spreadsheet. 349 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: My grandfather worked at the bank for forty years in 350 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: the same desk, the same chair, pouring over bank ledges 351 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: with paper and pencil, ensuring all figures balanced exactly to 352 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: the scent. With the invention of computerized adding machines and 353 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: then later spreadsheets on personal computers, there's laborious efforts that 354 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: my grandfather previously undertook had now become so quick and accurate. 355 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: He retired before the advent of these technologies, but I 356 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: often think how helpful those tools would have been for him. 357 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: AI in the workplace empowers everyone to focus on what 358 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: they do best. Learning these AI tools, like learning how 359 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: to use a spreadsheet, gives employees an added edge in 360 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: how they work as individuals and within their teams. I'd 361 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: just like to get your thoughts about the AI tools 362 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: for the non engineers and non tech people. 363 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: Well, I think I've been giving this rose colored glasses 364 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 2: look onto AI right where AI is always beneficial and 365 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: always used in the right way. But we know that's 366 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: not the case. I think that it's important to know 367 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 2: what algorithms and what AI can do because our number 368 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: one interface with AI every day is things like the 369 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 2: Internet and social media. And so I have students who 370 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: may be dealing with some kind of addictive behavior and 371 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 2: they don't realize that AI recommendation systems that are used 372 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: in sol social media are constantly feeding them content that 373 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: may make them feel stuck in that frame of mind 374 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: and that addictive cycle. And so I think it's important 375 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: for the general public to know what AI thinked imagery 376 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: looks like, what algorithms are out there, and how they 377 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: use your preferences to feed you more content that you like, 378 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 2: just for our own mental wellbeing. So I see my 379 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: class AA in one hundred as a place where people 380 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: can come and learn about these technologies so that they're 381 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: better equipped to personally manage their interface with them right 382 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: mentally manage it. 383 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, and are there any ethical considerations you try and 384 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: emphasize when teaching your course to your students. 385 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: So I try to give my students a broad overview 386 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 2: of AI ethics, because again, you could dig into one 387 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: quite a bit and there's still a ton of content 388 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: left there. So I started talking about, like what topics 389 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: there are in AI ethics. There's privacy and surveillance, there's 390 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: manipulation of behavior, there's jobs and autonomy. So those are 391 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: all like separate topics that I go over. Then I 392 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: can take a step further and I talk about frameworks. 393 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: So what frameworks are out there in terms of AI ethics, 394 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 2: Like the European AI Act came out and they have 395 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: a framework for how they want to regulate this technology. 396 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: Now we're seeing policy on the America side on AI. 397 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: My last little tidbit in the AI ethics realm is 398 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: trying to dispel some of the fear. I am personally 399 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 2: of the belief that there's not some looming AI monster 400 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: coming to eat us, and if there would be, we 401 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: would see the development of it, Like we've seen the 402 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 2: development of this technology all along chat GPT wasn't grown 403 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: in a lab and everyone was like, oh, I've never 404 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: seen this before. We had GPT one, GPT two, GPT three. Yes, 405 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 2: we saw the progress of that technology. 406 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I generally agree with that that there's going 407 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: to be a net positive to the AI growth that 408 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: we're seeing. But I think it's incumbent upon people like 409 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: you to actually teach and guide students around at least 410 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: understanding some of that, as you said, the ethical frameworks 411 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: around it, because they're the ones that are going to 412 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: be producing these things. Right. So I have three kids, 413 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: two of them are now in high school. What advice 414 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: would you give to parents and educators who are looking 415 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: to introduce AI and STAM related concepts to children at 416 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: an early age. 417 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: Man, that's a great question. I've never been asked that. 418 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 2: I've done so many interviews that I've never announced that. 419 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: What advice would I give them? You know, I'm a 420 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: family oriented person, right, I'm twenty six. I'm hoping to 421 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 2: have a family someday, So I kind of think about 422 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: this a lot. One thing I find my classroom is 423 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: is if you make it fun, the students get involved 424 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 2: and they get interested. Right. It's like if you have 425 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: dessert after your salad. Right, people are just more willing 426 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: to eat the salad so that they can have that 427 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 2: dessert and feel okay about it. So, getting your kids 428 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: involved in things like Legos Mindstorm, which is a subsect 429 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: like a robotic subsect of Legos, even like video games 430 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: that are less so dopamine addiction for them and more 431 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 2: so building and creating things using their intelligence in their mind. 432 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: I think making the space more fun for them to access, 433 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 2: and then on top of that, making it social, having 434 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: them find a friend group where they can relate to 435 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 2: other people about these kinds of things. I think loneliness 436 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: epidemic is pretty bad in today's world, and there's ways 437 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: you can alleviate that early on in their lives by 438 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 2: getting them involved in a community of other kids who 439 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: are open to doing those kinds of things. 440 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you envision as the future of AI 441 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: and education And what's the number one thing that excites 442 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: you most about the role of AI in shaping the 443 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: learning experiences? 444 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: I think the way we're interfacing what technology is changing 445 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: and being spurred on by AI, that's what we've named this, 446 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 2: and so I'm really excited for the shift that will 447 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: come in how we interface with technology. On the education side, right, 448 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 2: we teach people how to use technology, So now we're 449 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: going to teach them how to better their use of 450 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: technology by including AI education. So I'm really excited that 451 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 2: this new workforce that's coming will be better equipped again 452 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 2: to tackle more complex problems, and who knows, maybe some 453 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 2: of the problems that we've been trying to tackle for 454 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: so long will seem simplistic in the next twenty to 455 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: thirty years, and I'm really excited for or this emergence 456 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: of that, and I hope that we use it in 457 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 2: the right way to better society. 458 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: Awesome. Thanks very much, Havib, Well. 459 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate your time. It's been fun. 460 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: Thanks to Habib Mata for joining me on this episode 461 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: of Technically Speaking, an Intel podcast. Chatting with Habib was 462 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: really an eye opener. Being a dad of three, I'm 463 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: always on the hunt for ways to help my kids 464 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 1: flourish in their future careers. What grabs me about the 465 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: course that Intel and Habib created is that it's not 466 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: just your run of the mill four year degree. It's 467 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: like they threw open the doors for people from all 468 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: walks of life, no matter where they are in their career, 469 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: to jump in and really get their hands dirty in 470 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: the emerging fields of AI and STEM. The way Habib 471 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: gets his students fired up is pretty cool. He dives 472 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: into real world applications right from the get go, sparking 473 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: that curiosity bug in his students. This style gets them 474 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: hooked early on, and then they dig deeper into the 475 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: nitty gritty theory behind those AI projects. It's a far 476 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: cry for my old engineering days. It's all about slogging 477 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: through thick theory books before getting onto the hands on 478 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: fun projects. And now, with the solid backing from Intel 479 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: and Habib's relentless effort, this program is rolling out to 480 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: more campuses across the US, and who knows, soon it 481 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: might be a movement that spans the world. That's something 482 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: to be excited about, not just for my kids, but 483 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: for anyone ready to ride the AI and STEM wave. 484 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening. Join us again in two 485 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: weeks in December twenty sixth for the season finale of 486 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: Technically Speaking, an Intel podcast. There's been a real journey 487 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: learning about all these new technologies, and our final episode 488 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: will explore the challenges it takes to make them all possible. 489 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: You definitely do not want to miss its. Technically Speaking 490 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: was produced by Ruby Studios from IHET Radio in partnership 491 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: with Intel and hosted by me Graham Class. Our executive 492 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: producer is Molly Sosha, our EP of Post Production is 493 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: James Foster, and our Supervising producer is Nikir Swinton. This 494 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: episode was edited by Sierra Spreen and written and produced 495 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: by Tyree Rush,