1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation, and welcome back to the Drive 4 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: here on the Steelers Audio Network Hour number two. West 5 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 2: s Huler and Matt Williamson with you as we rock 6 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: and we roll here on a Thursday. We will get 7 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: to your tweets in this hour, so keep those rolling 8 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: in at Williamson, NFL at Wes Leuler if you want 9 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: to get involved. But Matt, I think this will be 10 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 2: another thing that we do regularly at this time on Thursdays, 11 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: which is, of course, take a look at the latest 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: injury reports that come out around this time. I mean 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: the Steelers just released here within the last ten minutes, 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: Patriots within the. 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: Last hour, Patriots outcome. 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: So this is kind of the for those two and 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: listen that. I think the Drive has some of the 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: smartest football listeners you could hope. 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: For back Yeah, and they've been educated. 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: You and you fail for ten years have educated these 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: people well. And I think football fans in general know 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: where to find smart football talk. Most of the listeners 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: know this, but for those who don't, just Thursday is 24 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: a huge injury report day. Yeah, that's kind of the 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: key indicator day. Obviously there's exceptions, but for the most part, 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: if you're not one that tells you the most, it's 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: the one that tells you the most. If you're all 28 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: clear full practice on Thursday, that's obviously a great sign 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: for Sunday. If you're still limited or not practicing on Thursday, 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: that's not a very good sign that you're not able 31 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: to get out there on the final kind of installed 32 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: day of the week. So with that in mind, let's 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: take a look at these Thursday practice reports for the Steelers. 34 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: The good news full practice participants Patrick Queen and Darius Slay. 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 4: Okay, so them, but I didn't think anything was super serious. 36 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, they were completely full today, and and TJ 37 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: Watt too, but he just missed yesterday with a vet's day, 38 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: so that doesn't count. But notable. I think he's gone 39 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: there and didn't practice yesterday. He's fine, was back to 40 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: full practice today, just a Vets day yesterday. This is 41 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 2: an interesting one. Limited today at practice was Derek Harmon, 42 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: so he's been limited Wednesday and Thursday. Matt not a 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: full practice participation from him yet. I wouldn't say that 44 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: completely shuts the door on Sunday. But it doesn't make 45 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: me feel overly optimistic either. 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 4: This is where we could use Dale, you know what 47 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 4: I mean. The guy's boots on the ground. Yeah, that's 48 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: a great call. My hunches and maybe Crystal totally robot this, 49 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 4: But I bet they come down to the decision of 50 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 4: do we hold them out one more week against the 51 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 4: bikes or do we play them ten to twelve steps, 52 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And with that plan at 53 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 4: least and see Yeah, And because you don't know him either, 54 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 4: I know that's a big Tomlin thing, which I respect. 55 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 4: Is well, once you've been around here for a long time, 56 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 4: I know what you're limited is versus guys. You know, 57 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: Cam Hayward's limited is different than everybody else or questionable 58 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: or whatever. Or I've been down this road. Like James 59 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 4: Connor has been so good since he left here, but 60 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: he unfortunately was the off of the example of all right, 61 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: we're gonna dress you just give you a couple carries 62 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 4: and then he's on the sideline and I only have 63 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: one running back and I'm screwed, you know what I mean. 64 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 4: He can only have some many guys active on game day, 65 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 4: So I bet that's what they're thinking about Harmon. But 66 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: let's make sure we ask Chris what we will. 67 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: Certainly, in fact, we should probably lead off with that 68 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: with Chris here. In about ten minutes, DK Metcalf got 69 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: a veteran's day. 70 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: No injury concerns there. 71 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 4: This is the first time he has but that doesn't 72 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 4: change just a. 73 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: Vet day for DK Metcalf, but did not practice. Alex 74 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: high Smith. I don't think that surprises anybody. 75 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 4: Did Tomlin rule him out on Yes? Okay, that's a 76 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: done deal. 77 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: Deshaun Elliott, I don't think that surprised anybody. 78 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: I think that opens the door for Peppers more though against. 79 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: His former kise certainly. 80 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and did not practice today Joey Porter Junior, which 81 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: obviously does not bear well for his status again one. 82 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't love that. Okay, that's not wonderful, but okay. 83 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: And then Max Sharping also did not practice today. We 84 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: got the news. We got the news yesterday that he 85 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: had suffered a knee injury during practice yesterday, and all 86 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: reports today from you know, this has not been officially 87 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: announced by the Steelers. As you and I sit here, 88 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: you know a little after five o'clock on this Thursday. 89 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: But according to the rapaports and the chefters in the 90 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: insiders of the world, it's a torn acl for Max 91 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: Sharping and he will miss the rest of the season, 92 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: which is very unfortunate. 93 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, now he's not the best player on the team. 94 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 4: He's not a starter. But it goes without saying that 95 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: if he he's whoever he's ahead of, they like him 96 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 4: better than so they got worse or in some way, 97 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 4: shape or form. He recently got promoted to the fifty three, 98 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 4: so he's not just an after tho. And you just 99 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 4: feel bad for him, you know, I mean, at this 100 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 4: stage of his career, how much does that set him back? 101 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: For sure, It's just it's it's unfortunate. Like you mentioned, 102 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: it's not We hope the Steelers five offensive linemens stay 103 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: healthy the whole year and depth ends up not being 104 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: a concern. 105 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: Chances of that aren't, but the chances of that are 106 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: not high. 107 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 2: And uh and yeah, you always want those kind of 108 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: break glass in case of emergency guys and just for 109 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: them to be around and practicing and and staying ready. 110 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 4: So unfortunately sounds rude, but I mean, if I had 111 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 4: to pick an offensive lineman to take out of the equation. 112 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 4: He would be my choice just because if either guard 113 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 4: gets hurt Anderson's taking that small we've got right, the 114 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 4: center gets hurt, McCollums taking that spot, So he kind 115 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 4: of needed two people to get hurt to see the field, 116 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 4: and I wouldn't ever take a tackle on the equation. 117 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: You know. The Patriots, Matt with a pretty lengthy injury 118 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: report here on this Thursday. They have got a handful 119 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: of guys listed as limited. Okay, cornerback Christian Gonzales with 120 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: a hamstring limited. That's a huge one linebacker Harold Landry 121 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: the third with a foot limited. 122 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 4: He's been quite good for them as edge rusher. 123 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 3: Yes, he has. Carlton Davis the third limited with an 124 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 3: achilles injury. The corn corner. 125 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, so two corners both limited in practice. Marte Mapu 126 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: the linebacker as well limited. So two three linebackers positions. 127 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: Is what you hate is a head coach like I 128 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 4: can handle a corner, receiver and a guard. I don't 129 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 4: want three guards, you know, you know what I mean. 130 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 2: So two corners Gonzales and Davis both limited. Three linebackers Landry, 131 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: Mapoo and Chasen all limited today. 132 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 4: And they're all real more edge guys than linebacker linebackers. Right. 133 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: Yes, Morgan Moses the tackle is limited. 134 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: He gets DJ all day long. He's a pure right tackle. 135 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: Jared Wilson, the offensive lineman is limited, the interior guy, 136 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: and then also full back Jack Westover. 137 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 4: Okay, now limited could mean we're just taking it. They're fine, and. 138 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: Some of those guys are more veterans that you would 139 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: give them a little bit more benefit of the doubt 140 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: that they can't practice. They could still play on Sunday. 141 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: But unlike Tomlin, coach hasn't been there a long time 142 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: and worked with these guys as I'm a body of 143 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 4: work with Tomlin and Cam or whatever. We'll see again Thursday. 144 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 4: If this was Wednesday, I'd be like, ah, they'll probably play. 145 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: But it's Thursday, and it's like, Okay, this is real. 146 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 4: Especially Gonzales to me, because he hasn't played yet and 147 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 4: he's the best player you. 148 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: Mentioned and certainly something to keep an eye on as 149 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: we roll along. 150 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: But I would think he would follow Metcalf. He's a legit. 151 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: He's like a sauce level. 152 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: He's a number one, clear cut one of the better 153 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: corners in the National Football League. The good news for 154 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: the Patriots, key On White and Christian Barmore both full 155 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: participants today in practice. 156 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: Along that defensive. 157 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 4: Those guys are problems. 158 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: Those guys are big hog mollies. Yeah. 159 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 4: Bar Moore was really an ascending player and then unfortunately 160 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 4: had blood clot issues last year. But he's back and 161 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 4: he looks like he hasn't missed a beat, which is frightening. 162 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: He's a tall six' five six' Six cam hayward, looking dude, 163 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: you know not a, fat guy you know that type. 164 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 4: Of guy And Key on white's one of my favorite 165 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 4: young players in. The league, really, VERSATILE ye i mean 166 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 4: he can line up on the edge in a two 167 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: point stance to come off, the edge or he can 168 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:26,119 Speaker 4: kick inside on. Throwing downs, really physical probably two hundred 169 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 4: and seventy pounds give. Or take also a. 170 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: Sending player so good news for them with those two 171 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: after those two had practice Issues. On wednesday but the 172 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: rest of it's still a lot of question marks For 173 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: The New. England patriots we will hopefully get some some 174 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: clarity On the steelers injury side of the things with 175 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 2: Our Buddy. 176 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: Chris hallick when we are helpful. 177 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: For that on the, other side we will talk to 178 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: him about some of that and all of his thoughts 179 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: As the steelers get ready to Head to foxborough to 180 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: take On The New england Patriots, on sunday we'll Talk 181 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: To chris HALLECK A Dk. Pittsburgh sports when We Returned, 182 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: West Schuler. Matt williamson It's the Drive On Steelers nation 183 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: radio On The Steelers. Audio network. 184 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: Your Tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven 185 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: home Of the Black And Goal Steelers. 186 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 2: NATION radio a double guest day here On the Drive 187 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 2: On Steelers. Nation radio big time stuff as we had 188 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: to get Our Guy chris hallick on this week to 189 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: talk with him about anything And everything. Steelers related chris 190 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: of course Covers the STEELERS For Dk. Pittsburgh sports. Chris 191 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: plenty we want to jump into. With you thank you 192 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 2: for taking the. Time here let's get right. Into it 193 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: thursday practice reports doesn't sound, very good very promising at 194 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: All for Joey or junior this weekend as he did 195 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: not practice Today And derek harmon was. Limited, today again 196 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: what do you predict for those two Status for Sunday. 197 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: In foxborough. 198 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 5: It's, a really really hard it's really hard to try 199 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 5: to Think that porter is gonna play at. THIS point 200 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 5: i think even a limited day Tomorrow on friday would 201 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 5: be pretty difficult coming back from. A hamstring i know 202 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 5: they don't want to rush the guy. Back Either, for 203 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 5: harmon it's it's a tough fill to climb for him 204 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 5: because he hasn't PLAYED an nfl, game yet and that's 205 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 5: a that's a pretty big variable in the equation, for 206 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 5: him because, you know that's what especially because That's What mike. 207 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 5: Tomlin said he, you know usually the older, guy is 208 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 5: the more experienced, he has the lesser he can practice throughout. 209 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 5: The Week, for harmon he doesn't even HAVE an nfl 210 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 5: game under. His BELT so i would Think that harmon's 211 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 5: got to be a full Participant on friday in order 212 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 5: to have a chance. To play but at this point in, 213 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 5: the week based off of what each of them, HAVE 214 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 5: done I think harmon has a better Chance. 215 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 4: Than Porter, SO chris i was Chatting With missy matthews 216 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 4: today at the facility and, she said all she's here in. 217 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 4: All week the biggest theme she's here in all week 218 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 4: is we have to. Communicate better we have to, communicate 219 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 4: better especially on the defense and you're probably aware, of 220 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 4: THIS and i brought it up a, few times but 221 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 4: every defensive back that played For the steelers last week 222 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: was not on the team the. YEAR before i mean 223 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 4: they're all New and porter, Was out elliott. Was out 224 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 4: everyone to play every snap was A non steeler in twenty. 225 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 4: Twenty four and that's Not. Even peppers is that something you've. 226 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 4: Been hearing do you think that's an issue on the 227 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 4: back end of the defense, In, particular no my. 228 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 5: One hundred percent. Believe that And Even tara loustin whenever 229 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 5: he spoke with the, media today he even referenced, that specifically, saying, 230 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 5: that like we had an entire secondary that wasn't here. 231 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 5: Last year that's a lot of new. Guys now the 232 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 5: one you know to try to ride by, both sides 233 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 5: both sides, of defense is these are a lot of, 234 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 5: these guys if not all, of them are. Veteran players 235 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 5: they've been in the league for, a while THEY have 236 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 5: nfl games under. Their belt they can this isn't. Complicated 237 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 5: stuff this is this is and even one of the 238 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 5: plays that they got burnt on, burnt on uh that 239 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 5: there was a serious breakdown. And coverage this is something 240 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 5: that was that tickle bow used to run in. His 241 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 5: defense so this is stuff that's been around for. A 242 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 5: while there's no excuse. For it and that's the reason 243 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 5: why whenever you see breakdowns happen and you see the 244 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 5: reaction on, the field Like. One thornhill you can see 245 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 5: on the touchdown Catch That tory horton had to start 246 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 5: the Game, For seattle thornhill had a very animated reaction 247 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 5: whenever he looked back And saw orton streaking pretty much, 248 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 5: by himself and he's, just like we went over this, 249 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 5: in practice we, should know like why is? This happening, and, 250 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 5: so yes communication is a people don't want to hear 251 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 5: it because they think it's, an excuse but communication issues are 252 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 5: an actual hurdle this team is trying to trying to 253 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 5: get through. 254 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 4: Right now And like WESTBAN and i have been saying, 255 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: all week like if it's, WEEK ten i don't want 256 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: to hear. About it it was, week, Two. 257 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 5: Right no that's one hund and. Even one thornhill talked 258 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 5: yesterday and he said something along those lines that he 259 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 5: talked about his rookie year With. The chiefs, he said 260 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 5: first half of, the season we were. A mess we 261 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 5: were all over, the place we weren't communicating well with, 262 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 5: each other and then in that second half of the 263 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 5: season we figured. Everything out we, hunkered down we worked 264 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 5: out our, communication issues all of, our issues and we 265 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 5: became the best defense IN the nfl over the second 266 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 5: half of the season and then went on to Win The. Super, 267 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 5: bowl Now that chiefs team Also Had patrick Mahomes And 268 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 5: Prime travis, kelcey unto so it's a lot easier to 269 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 5: go Win A super bowl when you have. Those guys 270 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 5: but he's painting the Picture, of, hey listen just because 271 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 5: things are bad right now doesn't mean that they're going 272 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 5: to be all seventeen games. 273 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: This, Year, WELL chris i think there's certainly, some bads 274 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: certainly some struggles along that defensive front as. Well too 275 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: how much do you pin that, on just, you know 276 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 2: needing To Get cam hayward back up, to speed needing 277 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 2: To Get derek harmon out there some of the stuff they, 278 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: can't control versus just getting beat in the trenches By 279 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: the jets And the seahawks. 280 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: Offensive Lines, and. 281 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 4: Chris let's asked YOU what i was gonna ask you. 282 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 4: About too could you see with Or without harmon the 283 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 4: snap distribution changing at all with the true. DEFENSIVE lineman. 284 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 5: I think it. COULD eventually i think what they would 285 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 5: like to get ideally is To Get hya black a 286 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 5: little bit more acclimated before you start trying to give 287 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 5: those kind of like the snaps that you would normally 288 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 5: Give To, cam heyward to give those snaps Immediately To, 289 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 5: ya black just for the sake Of Resting cam heyward 290 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 5: or keeping him, more fresh because you want to make 291 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 5: sure that the guy who's taking his place is worthy 292 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 5: of earning. Those steps as far as the issues, so 293 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 5: far whether it's personnel, or, coaching skimats whatever. IT is 294 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 5: i Did ask Tair loss in today because it did 295 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 5: seem like there was a Trend on sunday of it 296 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 5: was all. Or nothing it was tackling the runner or 297 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 5: one yard or two yards or no gain or TfL 298 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 5: or it was twelve yards or fifteen yards or whatever. 299 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 5: It was there was no. In Between and ta chalked 300 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 5: it up to a lot of the time we are 301 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 5: beating ourselves before the ball. Is snaps we're not lined, 302 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 5: up correctly we're not and sometimes it's just a little 303 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 5: bitty details of where where a linebacker is supposed to 304 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 5: be placed or where a defensive lineman is supposed, to 305 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 5: be where his attack point is, right away whatever, it 306 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 5: is they. Just don't they are beating themselves before the 307 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 5: they're giving the offensive chance to. Beat them and it's 308 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 5: so hard in any level, of football much less the 309 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 5: fell to win when you're beating yourself before the center 310 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 5: even gives the ball to. The quarterback so they have 311 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 5: to figure out. Those issues they have to figure out the. 312 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 5: Communication issues but the good thing is those are two 313 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 5: very very. Fixable issues, good point and, like you like, 314 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 5: you said it's. Week two it's okay to have these issues. 315 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 5: Right now it's not okay to have. 316 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 4: Them in about. 317 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 5: A month if this is still going On, mid October, 318 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 5: late October, early november we've got some serious. 319 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: Issues, here chris how fixable or, you know what's your 320 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: kind of thoughts On Protecting aaron rodgers through one hundred 321 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: and twenty minutes of football seven sacks in. Two games 322 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: that's too many for, any quarterback but particularly for one 323 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: that's going to turn forty two here in a. Couple 324 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: months how fixable? Is that, you know three and a 325 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: half sacks on average through the first. 326 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 5: Two games one of the best ways you can fix 327 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 5: that is run the. Ball better they've got to run the, 328 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 5: Ball Better aaron rodgers said it especially like if defenses 329 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 5: are going to give us two high looks all the 330 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 5: time or the majority of, the time we've got to 331 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 5: be able to run. The Ball, arthur smith, you know 332 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 5: asked him, that, today like what are other ways you 333 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 5: can attack two? High looks and, of course, you know 334 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 5: quick games, one way our pos are. Another way and, he, said, 335 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 5: like listen whenever they're in, too high we better be 336 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 5: able to win in the. Run game and his exact, 337 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 5: quote was it's. Just math we've got more guys to 338 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 5: block than there are guys in, the box and we 339 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 5: should be able to take care. Of that and there's 340 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 5: optimism not not just amongst, like coaches but also amongst 341 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 5: Guys like Troy thoughts on Who talking, he's like we're 342 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 5: not like horribly. Missing assignments we're just kind of one 343 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 5: thing away from getting more consistent runs from this run to. 344 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 5: That run and that's honestly the best way To Protect, 345 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 5: aaron rodgers because if you can run, the ball then 346 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 5: you force the defense to have to play to honor 347 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 5: the run a little. Bit more they don't get to 348 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 5: pin their years back and be able to Get after 349 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 5: rogers as easily you open things up in the play. 350 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 5: Action game there's just a number of different ways that 351 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 5: you Can, protect aaron and one really great way is 352 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 5: to ask him to not to drop back to pass. 353 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 5: At all you can just hand the Ball To jalen 354 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 5: warren or can? He Gainwell Or caleb johnson say here 355 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 5: go get us some yours. That way. 356 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 4: So one thing we've thrown OUT there i think would 357 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 4: help in that regard Is more washington at. TIGHT end, 358 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 4: I mean i don't know if he's their best. TIGHT 359 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 4: end i don't think he's their best receiving, tight END 360 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 4: but i think he's their hardest to play against. Tight 361 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 4: end what about him leading that group? And snaps. 362 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 5: How about leading the group? And SNAPS where i see 363 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 5: where you're, coming, from though because if you're in twelve personnel, 364 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 5: a lot and right now they lead the league in. 365 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 5: Twelve personnel, so yeah you could in Theory have washington 366 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 5: always be one of those two tight ends on. The field, 367 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 5: you know you Could have Darnell and john new one 368 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 5: Time and darnella had. ANOTHER time I get i could 369 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 5: see that being a, BUT yeah i think. There are 370 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 5: there are then gonna be too many times where you 371 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 5: could possibly have a really great Duo And Paton john 372 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 5: u and really stress the defense. That way but When, 373 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 5: REGARDING darnell i would like to see a little bit 374 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 5: more usage out. Of him i'm not talking about just as, 375 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 5: a blocker to use him as. A receiver and that's 376 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 5: not Just because i've had. To parlays, you know anytime 377 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 5: Touchdown For. Darnell washington you. 378 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 4: Got me hooked on. That too by the way he 379 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 4: did he got the. 380 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 5: Two pointer it sounds great, in theory but like it's 381 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 5: not happening. 382 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 4: Right now, but, hey LISTEN only i said one out 383 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 4: of the next like eight or nine weeks for us to. 384 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: Be, profitable dude, Cash, money yeah. 385 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 5: Cash MONEY but i. Get it but, and listen like 386 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 5: the two point play right there is proof, of it 387 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 5: like And Even Arthur SMITH today's, i guess like throwing 388 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 5: the uh throwing the Ball to shack in. The post, 389 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 5: you know it's just so easy to. Do that, But, 390 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 5: YEAH darnell. I do i do think you are going 391 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 5: to see a little bit more of him as as the. 392 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 5: SEASON progresses i don't know, how MUCH though i know 393 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 5: they really. LIKE him i know they they think he's. 394 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 5: More versatile people think. He is we have seen him 395 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 5: really be much of a threat as. A Receiver. 396 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: Chris hallick Of Dk pittsburgh sports, great stuff, As, always 397 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 2: chris before we let. You, go uh it's it's been 398 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: a it's been a tough forty eight hours for for 399 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: Everybody In, steelers nation for all of us with the 400 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 2: loss of Our Brother. DALE lawley i know you had 401 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: a close professional relationship. With him you had a close 402 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 2: personal Relationship, with DALE like i think many of us 403 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: were fortunate to. Say so just wanted to to give 404 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 2: you an opportunity to speak on on a guy who 405 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: meant so much. 406 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 3: To, you. 407 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. IT was i mean we kind of 408 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 5: knew it was coming at. Some point how fast, it 409 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 5: happened it. Still hurts it hurts when it when it. 410 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 5: Actually HAPPENS when i found out, THE news i was 411 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 5: about to my contacts in, that MORNING and i JUST 412 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 5: immediately i almost felt like a collapsed on. The floor 413 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 5: DALE was i LISTEN when i first, you know joined 414 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 5: the Joined the steelers beat in twenty, twenty two, YOU know, 415 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 5: i was, You know dale was still working At d 416 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 5: katers for sports and he took me under his wing. 417 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 5: Right away, you know he didn't and he and the 418 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 5: way he went, About it he didn't go about it 419 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 5: in this, way, like hey, you know you better listen 420 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 5: to me or anything. Like that he let me. Be 421 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,239 Speaker 5: me but he also showed me the way to, do 422 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 5: things a lot of it, by example but he would 423 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 5: also give me years on just little things here. And 424 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 5: there just the way he, did it it, was natural 425 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 5: and we became friends because. Of it it was easy to, 426 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 5: have conversations so it was easy for those conversations in 427 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 5: terms of trying to get acclimated to, the beat to 428 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 5: turn into more fun. Personal conversations it was just it was. 429 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 5: Just natural, and yeah over over the over these last, 430 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 5: few years HIM and i continue to. Become friends even 431 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 5: after he moved on to To sey Wars dot com 432 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 5: and started, writing there he continued to be. A Mentor 433 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 5: and i'm forever not only a better reporter Because, of 434 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 5: Dale but i'm a better person because of. Him too 435 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 5: it's It's been today's, been easier, for sure but yesterday 436 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 5: was really. Really TOUGH and i thought you guys did 437 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 5: a phenomenal job giving him a. Tribute yesterday, so LISTENING 438 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 5: and i know that was not easy for you guys 439 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 5: on our show that, WE, did DK and i did 440 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 5: was not. EASY either i had a hard time getting. 441 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 5: THROUGH it i appreciate you guys giving me an opportunity 442 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 5: to talk, about him because he's worthy of being. Talked 443 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 5: about he's worthy of being remembered in a. Great Way 444 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 5: and i'm just very very thankful for my relationship, with 445 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 5: him and my heart goes Out to amy and, his 446 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 5: KIDS and I just i want him to be as, 447 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 5: to be to continue to. Be, honored. 448 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 2: Amen, Dude amen very, well SAID, and uh and we 449 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: will all continue to do that every single day without. 450 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: A Doubt CHRIS, Hallick Dk, Pittsburgh sports, love, You brother 451 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: thanks for. 452 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: The time thanks for, having. 453 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 5: ME guys i appreciate. 454 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: It there he is great Stuff from CHRIS and UH 455 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: and i think very very important. Words there at, the 456 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 2: end we're going to take our last. Break here when 457 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: we return on the, other side we will close down 458 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 2: with some of. Your Tweets, Wes Uler, Matt williamson it's 459 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: The On Steelers. 460 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: Nation radio. 461 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven 462 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: home Of the Black. And Goal Steelers Nation radio. 463 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: Final segment here Of the drive On, a thursday as 464 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: we continue to get Ready For Steller's patriots sunday one 465 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: Pm At. Foxboro Stadium aaron rodgers never won there by, 466 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: the way, only. 467 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 4: Oh we never Won in. PITTSBURGH either i heard that 468 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 4: going into, last week. 469 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: And that's a. Good, POINT yeah i have a feeling 470 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: that that's going to change. HIS career i like his 471 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: chances of. 472 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: That changing only zero and Two At gellette Stadium, in 473 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 2: foxborough so it's not a massive. 474 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 3: Sample size and one of. 475 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 4: Those these quarterbacks of this generation have been successful. 476 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 2: In that correct and one of those is last year With, 477 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: The jets so we'll especially give him. A pass, no 478 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: one no one can Get that jets stank off of 479 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: them when it comes to their. Division struggles, but yes 480 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: plenty to be excited about. This weekend and you, Know, 481 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: What matt before we dive into the, Tweets here i'll just, 482 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: say aesthetically, you know just on, the surface two and 483 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 2: one feels and looks a lot better than one, and. 484 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 4: Two especially on two game. Losing streak and these aren't. 485 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 4: Three losses this isn't the three game stretch against, you 486 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 4: Know the Chiefs, and Eagles. 487 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: And ravens and you. 488 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 4: Know this this isn't a three game losing streak To, 489 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 4: the bills and you Know the packers and the top 490 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 4: teams in the. LEAGUE too i hate when people, are 491 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 4: like you got to come out of this with you, 492 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 4: but stretch a losing record is not a. 493 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 3: Good, look no it. Is, not no it. 494 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 2: Is not you will you Know after doublin get a 495 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 2: bye week and Then. The browns but down, the stretch 496 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: the schedule. 497 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 3: Does not get. 498 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: Any easier not, SO yeah i don't think There's anything 499 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: there's no such thing as a must win until it's a, 500 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: must win, of course like we overuse that all, the 501 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: time but this is about as close to it as you. 502 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 3: Can Get, IN september I. 503 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 4: Think i think you got to put this money in 504 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 4: the bank. 505 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: Some tweets before we close this, thing down or maybe 506 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: as we close this, THING down i should Say AT, 507 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 2: williamson nfl At Wes, ley yuler that's where you can 508 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: get at us to. GET involved i think Every, single 509 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: thursday we'll do this to close down. The show brad 510 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: with a good question here to lead. Us off, brad 511 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: says in evaluating the coaching matchup, this Week Does mike 512 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 2: rabel get any nod with his Familiarity With arthur smith and. 513 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 3: His offense. 514 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: Interesting Question from, brad there that's something we haven't really 515 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: thought about her discussed. 516 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 4: This week i'm mad at myself for not bringing that. 517 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 4: UP sooner, i mean that's who Really gave smith his 518 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 4: first REAL gig yea for people that, DON'T. 519 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: Know i was, gonna Say with lafleur Right To green. 520 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 4: Bay's, Head, coach lafloor, who's excellent was the. Offensive coordinator 521 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 4: arthur was the tight ends Coach under Vrabel. In tennessee 522 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 4: we're Talking about. Tannehill days lafloor gets, the bump Goes To, 523 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 4: green bay wants To take smith, with him by, the 524 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: way which Is a rogers Correlation with smith that we 525 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 4: were talking About when rogers. Got, here yep, and no 526 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 4: we're gonna make you the offense Coordinator, In, tennessee arthur 527 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 4: and it went. REALLY well i would say That Benefits 528 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 4: new england More than pittsburgh because one was the, older one, 529 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 4: you know kind of. In charge, right now they've been pretty. Far, 530 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 4: Removed sure arthur's been a head coach. Since then this 531 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 4: is his second team since. Those DAYS but i bet 532 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 4: he knows some Tendencies, about smith. 533 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: NO question i think in twenty twenty five, in sports 534 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 2: there's no. Secrets anymore no everyone. 535 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 4: Has up, you're like who's the sleeper in? This draft 536 00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 4: everybody knows. 537 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 2: Everybody everyone everyone has all the film from the all 538 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: twenty two and fifty million DIFFERENT four k high. Definition 539 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: angles anyway you can want to watch. The film there's 540 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: no there's there's no lack, of information there's no lack 541 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: of there's true Media In Pro football focus and all 542 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: these different next. Gen stats there is no lack. Of 543 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 2: information there's, no secrets there's. No hiding but familiarity is 544 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: always a. 545 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 3: Good thing at the, SAME. 546 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: Time i mean there's definitely tendencies and how does this 547 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 4: man think and being around him and being. 548 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: When things get tight, And, squirrely yeah does he? REACTS sometimes, 549 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: I mean i've been in. 550 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 4: THOSE buildings i spent three YEARS and i was not, 551 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 4: a COACH but i was blown away how much time 552 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 4: they spend in a dark room together. Watching tape how 553 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 4: many hours and hours they spent together, Sitting there and 554 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 4: you get to know each other in a, big. 555 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 3: Way eating, ice cream, drinking coffee, watching. 556 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 4: Film spitting and chewing and scratching and whatever nasty things. 557 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: They, do right you were a big ice cream guy 558 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: in your Time, in cleveland. WEREN'T you i FEEL like 559 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: i remember you telling me that there was a soft 560 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: serve soft serve sheet and hit the. 561 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 4: Film, room yeah, My man JAMES and I the browns 562 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 4: probably have been thrilled. To us but he Was, in. 563 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 4: ATLANTA dude i Was a. Pittsburgh dude It was ben's 564 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 4: rookie year and pretty much after we had know when 565 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 4: all of our families Were in Atlanta. And, pittsburgh sure 566 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 4: just the two. Of us our apartments were right next to. 567 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 4: Each other brown set us up At The polo Club, 568 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 4: in strongsville which sounds likeicer than, it is but it's. 569 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 4: Not BAD but, i mean like when, Everybody, Left james i'd, 570 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 4: be like get, a cone. 571 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 3: Watch The mike vick And. 572 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: Watch, Ben yeah, HE'S like i want To Watch. 573 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 4: Mike vick they were like the two of the most 574 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 4: exciting guys in the league at, that point and they're 575 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 4: our hometown team and we're like four and ten getting 576 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 4: ready to. Get, fired like let's, go downstairs get a 577 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 4: cone and kick our feet up and watch. Our guys. You, know. 578 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: Listen you could take the Out. Of Pittsburgh take pittsburgh 579 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: out Of The Yinzer baby tim tweets us here's a. 580 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: Good question can you share where you guys will be 581 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: doing Shows? IN dublin i will be there and would 582 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: love to. Find, you WELL yes, i can do you know? 583 00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 4: That info how? 584 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: ABOUT this i got this trusty dusty itinerary packet Here 585 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: on friday from four, to seven double, In time. Dublin, 586 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: Time yes friday from four. To SEVEN The dv morning 587 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: show will be on before us from eleven, to three 588 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: and then we will be on from four, to seven 589 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: a three hour show Live At, fitzsimmons BAR which i 590 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: believe is like right In The temple bar area district Of. 591 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: Downtown dublin it's like one of the main tourist areas of. 592 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: Their downtown I'm Sure temple bar is an, actual bar 593 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: but it's also a district if that. 594 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 3: Makes, Sense okay. 595 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: And we will Be At, fitzsimmons BAR which i believe 596 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: is part of that whole. Complex awesome And, then saturday. 597 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: Same place MATT and i will be on the air 598 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: from one until Four. On Saturday. On, saturday yes so 599 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 2: one to Four on Saturday At fitzsimmons bar four to Seven, 600 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: on friday if you would like to come out And 601 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: see MATT and i say hello and twist. 602 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 3: Our arm you can maybe even buy us pint and 603 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 3: we won't. SAY no i won't. 604 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 4: Say No. 605 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: Angry bike lane tweets us, and says anything you guys 606 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: have heard from the coaches in the past couple of 607 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 2: days that gives you hope That the steelers know what 608 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: they're doing wrong and know how to, correct it not. 609 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 4: Copping out but yesterday wasn't The normal wednesday. Around here it. 610 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 4: Was not it was not giggling about it because. Of 611 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 4: THAT but i didn't pay any attention to the injury 612 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 4: report or coaches quotes or any of, that stuff to 613 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 4: be very honest, with you so kind of a day 614 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 4: behind in those type. Of things but we we did go, 615 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 4: over It and chris brought. It up the communication thing 616 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 4: that's IM from ta has to be. 617 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: Ironed out and, You Know arthur smith spent a lot 618 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: of his his media availability this week AND that i 619 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: get the, question too because the coordinator stuff is behind 620 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: closed doors for the, Most part like it's not Like 621 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: The mike tomlin. Press conference that's live at the same 622 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: time every week that anybody can. 623 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: Access and Listen to thought On THE. 624 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: News us but, believe me there was a lot of 625 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: Conversation From arthur smith About Protecting aaron rodgers and getting 626 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: more of a push In The. 627 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 3: Run game so the same. 628 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: If you want, to, hear yeah the same things were all. 629 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: Harping on are the same things that they're all. HARPING 630 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: on i think some of that stuff is gonna take 631 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: a little more time to, come together but some of 632 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 2: those communication issues you better get buttoned up. 633 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 4: Pretty quick and OF course i think this goes Out 634 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 4: saying austin's not gonna be like we're gonna mix in 635 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 4: more cover two or, You know smith's not gonna be 636 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 4: like we're gonna Run, more, washington, right, yeah, yeah yeah. 637 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: You know and speaking, Of That, michael ledessio, long time, 638 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: long time a good friend of the show here, says 639 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 2: this and to be fair, to him he tweeted us 640 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 2: this before we Mentioned Some darnell, washington STUFF so i 641 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 2: want to give him credit. For that michael tweets us, 642 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: and says seems to me the most obvious fix In 643 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 2: The run game Is Playing. Darnell washington, more right he, 644 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: simply put has not. Played enough more Carries, for warren 645 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: more Plays for darnell should get. Them, going, YES yeah 646 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: i mean that is certainly at the top of the 647 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: list of IDEAS that i would like to. 648 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 3: See explored if that's a good way to. 649 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 4: Put it give your best, ball carrier which Is, clearly 650 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 4: warren a little, bit more your best blocking tight end 651 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 4: a little. Bit more i'm, With you. 652 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 2: And you know what's you know what's exciting about, that 653 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: too is you start having some success off. Of, that 654 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: yeah you hit a little, play action he gets the 655 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: ball in space and. Runs over it makes a couple 656 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 2: of defensive backs pee the pants as he runs, them 657 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: over and you know it gets you a nice chunk 658 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: gain in the receiving game as. WELL too i think 659 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 2: that IS certainly. 660 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 4: I think it's a great way. To start let's let's 661 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 4: change usage a little bit with our best guys for. 662 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 4: Running plays and. 663 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: He tweets us, and says how do you continue to 664 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 2: develop a player who needs more reps in? Playing time 665 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: but when in season usage and reps are hard to 666 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: come by and work hasn't merited, MORE usage. I E, 667 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: Caleb johnson. 668 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 4: It's really hard this is not a dem things. 669 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: To do YOU and i had this same Conversation With 670 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 2: will howard when we figured out that he was going 671 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: to miss. 672 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 4: The, preseason yeah and then what do you do? WITH 673 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 4: them i don't have time To. 674 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: Be practice, is important but. It's not it's not the 675 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 2: reps that you want in stadium. 676 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 4: That too and you're not there's so few. Practice reps 677 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 4: the goal all week is how do we Beat? The 678 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 4: patriots not HOW do I Make will. Howard better i'm 679 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 4: just going to give him a twenty minute time with 680 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 4: the ones just to get him better for maybe to 681 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 4: be the backup, next year, you know or even if 682 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 4: you want him to be the. NUMBER one, I mean 683 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 4: mahomes as a rookie is the first, round pick ran 684 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 4: scout team and ripped the chief front defense apart, and 685 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 4: realized well he's who we thought he was? Pretty, good, 686 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 4: yeah yeah, Right right it's it's not a. Developmental. League 687 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 4: now one, THING is i Know the steelers don't have 688 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 4: the biggest coaching staff in, the league but they still. 689 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 4: Have assistance, you know LIKE when i was With, the 690 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 4: browns we just talk. About This, chuck pagano who who 691 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 4: was a, head coach went on to become a. Head 692 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 4: coach was our defensive. Back, coach well, this young upstart 693 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 4: assistant defensive back Coach Was, todd bowles who's now the 694 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 4: head coach Of. 695 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 3: The bucks pretty. Good combat it was one of the. 696 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 4: Bright spots, for Sure and todd would spend a little 697 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 4: more time with the developmental guys because he was. The assistant, 698 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 4: you know YOUR assistant o line coach might. Take steel 699 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 4: don't have a great example right now because they don't 700 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 4: have a third round pick waiting in. The Wings But 701 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 4: dylan cook or whoever the practice squad guys and maybe 702 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 4: go in the corner and hit the sled and work 703 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 4: on front the medals or whatever. 704 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 3: It is, you know like maybe McCormick last year before 705 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 3: he got. 706 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 4: Thrust out he's a, better example, you know the young 707 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 4: guy you've. Hoped for that's not a starter. Right now 708 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 4: why don't you go with the assistant and work on 709 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 4: whatever it is you're, bad at you KNOW what? I, 710 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 4: mean yeah but. It's tough there's not much time during 711 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 4: The week's johnson's behind the eight ball. RIGHT now i 712 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 4: don't know how he proves Himself unless warren. Gets hurt 713 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 4: and that's who you don't. 714 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 2: Want he's going to have very regardless of, what happens 715 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 2: unless there's a ass, of injury he's going to have 716 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: very little opportunity to. Prove, himself yeah and he's got 717 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 2: to find a way to make a mountain out of 718 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: that mole hill whenever. 719 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 3: He DOES and i. 720 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 4: Don't think this will, happen, unless say just take a 721 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 4: total leap of faith, And, say warren you're the third. 722 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 4: Down back we liked you enough to draft in the. 723 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 4: Third round here we sink, or swim or or you 724 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 4: have a big lead in the, fourth quarter or you're 725 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 4: losing by a bunch in the, fourth quarter and these 726 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 4: three series. Are yours sink. Or swim but that's not 727 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 4: how you want to. 728 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 3: Do, it, no, no, no no certainly not especially. 729 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 4: Running back running back's a hard position in practice to. 730 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 4: Stand out you're not breaking Tackles from Watt and hayward in. 731 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 3: Those you're not getting real pass pro reps. 732 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 4: Right right they're not doing backstors backers anymore or any 733 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 4: of that kind. 734 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 2: Of. Stuff matt we got like ninety seconds before we 735 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: got To go Dolphins in buffalo tonight For your thursday 736 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: Night or buffalo ten and a half. 737 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 3: Point favorites i'm not. 738 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 2: Touching it i'm not touching that, number either, Huge number 739 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: but this feels like this feels like a crossroads night For, The, 740 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 2: dolphins like are you going to sink completely and start 741 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 2: zero and three and get embarrassed and maybe you've got 742 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 2: an interim head coach, next week. 743 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 4: Especially on a, Long week getting embarrassed on national stage 744 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 4: is not something. Owners like or. 745 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 2: Are you going to keep this thing closer and and 746 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 2: maybe start to punch back a little bit and and. 747 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 3: Not sink to use your, latest analogy. 748 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 4: It wouldn't shock me If the bills win. By thirty 749 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 4: it wouldn't shock Me if miami's offense shows up in a, 750 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 4: big WAY because i Think the bills d, isn't great 751 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 4: and we Know the tua And a Chan and Waddle 752 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 4: and hill can get. Going, totally yeah. 753 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: And It's not December. In buffalo it should still be 754 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 2: pretty pretty. Nice, WEATHER yeah, i. 755 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 4: Mean so maybe that side of the ball keeps. 756 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 3: It close ten years since the last Time the dolphins Won. 757 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 4: In, BUFFALO really i bet a lot of them are 758 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 4: late in the, year, too well the late in the 759 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 4: year ones forget, about it, No, chance, yeah. 760 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah no Chance that ferrari doesn't run in the And 761 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 2: That Orchard park ferrari is not Running the, Orchard, PARKSNOW 762 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 2: hey a big thank you to our our two great, 763 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 2: Guests Today bob Labriola And chris hallick for. Joining us, 764 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 2: as always a big tip of the cap to our 765 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 2: YouTube PRODUCER mister Tv For. 766 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson I'm. West shuler, take, Care everybody we'll talk to. 767 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 2: You tomorrow we'll have Five Star friday, our matchups a 768 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 2: full focus and scout Of The New england patriots on. 769 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 3: Tomorrow's program but that will do it for. Us today, take, 770 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 3: Care everybody we'll talk to. You tomorrow you know is 771 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 3: always where to. Find us it's on your twenty four 772 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 3: to seven home Of the Black. And Gold It's Steelers 773 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 3: nation radio On The Steelers. Audio network