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Speaker 1: host room shooter, and it's Friday, my favorite day of

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Speaker 1: To be honest, I don't really have a bad day.

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Speaker 1: I love a Monday, I love a Friday. I love

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Speaker 1: I love all of it. I have a really nice,

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Speaker 1: nice week. But there is something very delicious about ending

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Speaker 1: the week, maybe accomplishing something, ticking something off that list

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Speaker 1: the weekend. Plus I'm really lucky my niece, my sister

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Speaker 1: Christine's daughter, Paris, is in New York this weekend, so

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Speaker 1: I get to hang out with my niece for two days.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited about that. But I'm also so excited

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Speaker 1: because every Friday, our dear friend Cory Andrew joins us. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Corey Oliver, I am here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for that lovely intro. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm family. You type me right in

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Speaker 2: with your niece, you.

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Speaker 1: Right there with them. We've been doing this a while now,

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Speaker 1: from that day you walked into Bottinos and stole my heart.

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Speaker 1: Oh I like to write away, you made me laugh,

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Speaker 1: you made me smile. You're a decent, decent man. My friend. O, kay,

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Speaker 1: let's jump into the show. What time is it, my friends?

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Speaker 1: It is? So there's a new book out, a new

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Speaker 1: book out that claims Queen Camilla didn't like Kate Middleton

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Speaker 1: in the beginning and still has a very tense relationship

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Speaker 1: with Prince William. Christopher Anderson, I know this guy. He

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Speaker 1: is a fabulous reporter author. He has the best royal sources.

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Speaker 1: So he has a book out called The King The

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Speaker 1: Life of King Charles the Third, and he shared some

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Speaker 1: intriguing insights into the early dynamics within the British royal

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Speaker 1: family when Kate Middleton arrived. So Christopher is saying that Camilla,

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Speaker 1: who married Charles in two thousand and five, wasn't keen

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Speaker 1: they met at Saint Andrew's University in Scotland. I went

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Speaker 1: celebrities kids go there. It's a fabulous university, beautiful, beautiful campus.

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Speaker 1: So they went there together. But when they first met,

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Speaker 1: Camilla was unsure because she's quote a believer in aristocracy,

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Speaker 1: So let me explain more here. Kate Middleton is a commoner,

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Speaker 1: and I don't say that with any any malice. I'm

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Speaker 1: Camilla is from a very fancy family. She's part of

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Speaker 1: She was not a commoner. She was a lady and

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Speaker 1: she lived in a mansion. Kate lived in a really

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Speaker 1: Camilla was not that happy about this. Now people who

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Speaker 1: And so that's why she was concerned. And she didn't

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, listen, I mean you see my face,

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Speaker 2: Rob honey. First of all, miss Camilla girl, you are

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Speaker 2: It's hardly hardly the voice of any sort of reasoning

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Speaker 1: Everything you say it is true. I find that happens

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Speaker 1: Calm down, calm down. In his book Prince Harry in Spare,

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Speaker 1: and the British public have come around to her. What

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Speaker 1: which brings us to our pole question of the day.

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Speaker 1: Queen Camilla initially had to stain for Kate Middleton, which

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Speaker 1: I questioned today is do you think Camilla is a snob?

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Speaker 1: Is she a snob? Okay, go vote on our Twitter

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Speaker 1: Corey Love, what are you working on? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, finally Taylor Swift has broken her silence,

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Speaker 2: you know, after the terrorist attack that targeted her Erros

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Speaker 2: But she says having our Vienna shows canceled was devastating.

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Speaker 2: So she's expressing her views there, finally breaking her silence.

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Speaker 2: cases like this, one's silence is actually showing restraint and

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Speaker 2: If she says the wrong thing, she could actually drum

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Speaker 2: this is really on brand for Taylor. I think is

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Speaker 2: to be very, very caress of her fans, right.

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Speaker 1: She protects those fans she cares. We talked about this

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Speaker 1: I can't. In fact, I can't remember a time ever

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get think about this today, and

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Speaker 1: the next time that you want to retaliate, the next

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Speaker 1: time you want to respond, maybe, just maybe it might

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Speaker 1: be more powerful to say nothing. This story, oh, it

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Speaker 1: She's just filed to remove Affleck from her name, and

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Speaker 1: There's an old interview that is circulating where Ben opens

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Speaker 1: he said quote Jen felt emotionally neglected as a child.

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Speaker 1: He goes on to say that there aren't enough followers

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