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Speaker 1: Hello. My name is Maria Knelisbina and I am the

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Speaker 1: first Lady of Professional Wrestling and I am a member

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Speaker 1: of the board of directors for a Ring of Honor

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Speaker 1: Wrestling and you can watch me every Wednesday on Women's

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Speaker 1: Division Wednesday or Beyond the Bells and also on Ring

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Speaker 1: of Honor Television. You are watching the Battleground Podcast. Why

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Speaker 1: from the Parts Unknown Studios into the Double Battle Crown.

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Speaker 2: Battle Round, the Battle Road.

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Speaker 1: The.

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Speaker 3: Battle Crowd.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Battleground Podcast, your place for all things

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Speaker 1: pro wrestling.

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Speaker 3: The Battle Road, the Battle Round.

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Speaker 4: Now making their way to the microphones giving up for

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Speaker 4: your hosts.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Battle Crown.

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Speaker 3: What's up you guys?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of the Battleground Podcast. Before

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Speaker 2: we start bringing anybody into the show, we got to

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Speaker 2: get to a quick little agenda. If you could follow

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Speaker 2: all your friends about the show. Because we got a

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Speaker 2: good guest on the show today. And let me bring

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Speaker 2: in my tag team partner. There's my man Eli.

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Speaker 3: What's going on, buddy.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I thought you was just gonna bring her

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Speaker 4: in without even mentioning me, which is fine, I understand that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, she could have started off the show, which

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Speaker 2: she does at the beginning of it.

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Speaker 3: You know what, let's just let's just go ahead and

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Speaker 3: bring her in. Let's bring in Maria canell.

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Speaker 2: It's been in Marie.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us tonight. How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm wonderful we.

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Speaker 4: Had we had the hobby. Uh, it's actually been about

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Speaker 4: a year now. I think it was August or September

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Speaker 4: of last year, and he was in an amazing headspace

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Speaker 4: obviously with getting back in with Ring of Honor and

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Speaker 4: doing some of the indie stuff. So I'm sure you're

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Speaker 4: gonna have a lot of positive things to talk about

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Speaker 4: with that as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and you know a lot of positive things

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Speaker 2: are going on with Ring of Honor, and we recently

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Speaker 2: just had the brand new Ring of Honor Women's World Champion, Roxy,

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Speaker 2: which is I'm very excited for her to be that

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Speaker 2: and I mean there was a big tournament for it

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Speaker 2: and she got the championship. What was the overall experience

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Speaker 2: of curating this tournament, like and what do you think

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Speaker 2: of the outcome as.

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Speaker 3: It pertains to the future of the women's division in ROH.

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Speaker 1: It was a long time coming. Last year there was

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Speaker 1: supposed to be a tournament and that didn't happen. So

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of women that were in the

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Speaker 1: last year. So there was so much anticipation for the

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Speaker 1: as if when it was down to the final two,

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I think that

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Speaker 2: For sure, and sitting there watching it, and I mean,

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Speaker 2: who is nineteen years old, and you really don't see

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Speaker 2: that in a company that they say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Rock is she's mature beyond her years.

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Speaker 2: And it's kind of funny because when we were talking

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Speaker 3: On the show. It is perfect love dogs.

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, well so yeah, we we just chatted with

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Speaker 4: belt's open to all challengers and with all you know,

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Speaker 4: course you got the forbidden door. I mean, are you

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Speaker 4: your opinion with that? When she said it's opened all challenge.

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Speaker 1: Before, before death, before dishonor before the show, before the

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Speaker 1: television before our pay per views, and on that hour

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Speaker 1: I said that in Ring of Honor, there is no door.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody talks about there being some forbidden door,

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Speaker 1: but there is no door here. We will work with

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Speaker 1: for us, it's more of a if you want to

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Speaker 1: and whether that's the best of the future, the best

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Speaker 1: I'm open to it. I've talked to Deanna, I've talked

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Speaker 1: And just for the simple fact that Diana and Rock

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Speaker 4: And definitely Deanna has definitely more of a ruthless streak

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Rock is just starting to compete

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Speaker 1: a high level for a long time. Yeah, so it's

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Speaker 2: we've had several of the female roster on our show,

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Speaker 2: and I know that we we have made a very

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Speaker 2: And we don't want that to happen.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean with Mandy, Mandy has the experience,

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Speaker 1: The only thing that I feel that would ever hold

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Speaker 1: I mean, and that's that's the only thing I feel

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Speaker 2: For sure, where do you hope the Ring of Honor

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Speaker 3: And then just think five years from now, I mean,

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Speaker 1: So I would put our division up against anyone, and

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Speaker 1: it's the freshest division out there. These are the names

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Speaker 1: And for me, I would like to have at least

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Speaker 1: I want them to become more of a wrestling household name.

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Speaker 1: I found them all through social media, through YouTube. So

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Speaker 4: That's a very good answer. Yeah, that's excellent. Okay, So

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Speaker 4: the stuff with your former company. You've done that, but

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Speaker 4: so you do have opinions. So we're just kind of throwing,

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Speaker 4: I mean, most factors is arguably the biggest it's ever been,

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Speaker 1: So we are in a punk rock culture right now,

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Speaker 1: not just because punk is back on television, but.

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Speaker 4: You have honor alumni speaking of exactly.

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Speaker 1: But we are in a punk rock phase. People have

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Speaker 1: My gosh. If I hear about one more pure match,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna because.

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Speaker 2: He's got a big match coming up against another Ring

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Speaker 2: of Honor star with Dickinson for that title.

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Speaker 1: I know, yeah, and that match has been a long

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Speaker 1: time coming, so I can only imagine they're gonna go

444
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Speaker 1: out there and light each other on fire or something

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Speaker 1: like the anticipation of it, and you know that's of

446
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Speaker 1: course Dickinson's the guy to do that with. But like

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Speaker 1: still at the same time, like I have an anniversary

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Speaker 1: coming up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, gotta keep mama happy.

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Speaker 3: We don't need anything happening before the anniversary.

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Speaker 2: So recently we chatted with another one of your friends,

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Speaker 2: Gel Kim, who is a producer of the recent NWA

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Speaker 2: in Power the All Women's pay per view, which was

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Speaker 2: absolutely amazing, as well as the upcoming Impacts Knockouts Knockdown

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Speaker 2: pay per view, which we were at a part of

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Speaker 2: some of the tapings here in Nashville. In a perfect world,

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Speaker 2: do you think we could ever see like a multi

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Speaker 2: promotion all women's pay per view and if so, like,

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Speaker 2: who would you want a fantasy book as the main event?

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Speaker 1: Who? You're asking a lot right now, but.

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Speaker 4: We're to the t bone part of the question.

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Speaker 1: Now, fantasy book. Okay, So I'm I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 1: a couple. I'm sorry, it's got to happen.

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Speaker 3: You got the pencil, you make the card.

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Speaker 1: I would love to see Rock versus Deanna and I.

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Speaker 1: I've had this fantasy booked in my mind for a

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Speaker 1: little while now. But I'd like to see Tricia Dora.

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Speaker 1: Yes we were.

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Speaker 4: I was very excited to hear her name show up

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Speaker 4: on the in the tournament.

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Speaker 1: I actually have very exciting news this Wednesday on the bell.

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Speaker 1: So but I would love to see Tricia Dora versus

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Speaker 1: Nicole Savoy in a pure Worlds match. So I those

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Speaker 1: are two, but I'd also love to see Allie Catch

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Speaker 1: versus LuFisto. There's three? How many did I say it

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Speaker 1: was gonna get? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Right now?

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Speaker 1: Book the card Tag match the.

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Speaker 4: Hecks my favorite new tag team.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so good. I love them.

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Speaker 4: I just I had I had to higher hopes for

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Speaker 4: one of them in the tournament, but I get it.

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Speaker 4: You know any given Sunday, I get it. But no,

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Speaker 4: they're incredible as a tag team.

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Speaker 1: Love them, Yes, And I don't know if you know,

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Speaker 1: uh Willow and Queen Bee and they're uh uh huh.

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Speaker 1: I would love to see.

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Speaker 4: That would be a yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now that you've booked the card, what do we call

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Speaker 2: this pay per view?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, but I would also do

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Speaker 1: Ashley Box versus uh oh gosh.

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Speaker 2: What.

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Speaker 1: Shoot, where's the how do you say?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Kaya? Oh? I can't And she wears black and yellow canaya? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Can I? I think it's Kanaya. I. I'll have to

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Speaker 1: look it up. But yeah, she's she's incredible. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's there's a few.

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Speaker 4: When you said that, I just thought a break Baker

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Speaker 4: because of Pittsburgh. So that's but yeah, that's.

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Speaker 1: Not even touching the other companies.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, Well then.

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Speaker 1: You got Britain Ruby, which we're we're gonna get. But

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Speaker 1: like I, I just uh huh.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you want to, you can book the whole

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Speaker 4: card and then we'll talk to the money people and

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Speaker 4: see what we can do.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I think it's gonna happen. If I

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Speaker 1: if I had to bet on it, I would guess

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Speaker 1: it's going to happen. I would expect it would happen

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Speaker 1: in the next like year or two years. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think it'll be a one day event. I think

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Speaker 1: it'll be a two day event, and I think it'll

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Speaker 1: be WrestleMania esque.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Ways, Nashville is a good place to have the show, right, got.

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Speaker 1: A good girl?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of history.

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Speaker 2: You're just trying to bring as many shows to Nashville's possibly, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But I mean if you go back to the eighties,

523
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Speaker 4: I mean they did super shows. I mean they had

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Speaker 4: I know, the aw A, CWA and the WCCW had

525
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Speaker 4: the big Supercard and I know that's where Jerry Lawler

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Speaker 4: won the whatever, and so I mean it's it's been

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Speaker 4: done before. And I think there's enough except for the

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Speaker 4: one company, I think there's enough talent to get around

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Speaker 4: to do a two day thing, you know. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're right on board with it. I think it'd be incredible.

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Speaker 4: This question is about your wrestling career. So we've we've

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Speaker 4: talked about, you know, like you said that the life

533
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Speaker 4: expectancy of a professional wrestlers a lot longer than it

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Speaker 4: used to be. We even just saw Steing recently sixty

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Speaker 4: two and people are like, holy crap, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Insane?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now, he's not gonna be in every week guy,

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Speaker 4: we get that, but I mean two or three times

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Speaker 4: a year he can still go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You also have an amazing stat in your career. You

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Speaker 4: were the first woman to hold a championship while pregnant.

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Speaker 4: May not have been in the cards, but congrats on that.

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Speaker 4: But anyways, you know, obviously women can do anything, so

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Speaker 4: why why wouldn't you be able to hold the belt?

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Speaker 4: Concerning your in ring career, is there one talent that

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Speaker 4: would be able to get you to come back in

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Speaker 4: the ring for one final match?

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Speaker 1: Probably not. I'm just I'm not in that place right now.

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Speaker 1: I was asked a ton while the tournament was going on,

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Speaker 1: and even after I was released from WWE to get

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Speaker 1: back out there and wrestle. I don't know why anybody

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Speaker 1: wants to see me wrestle, but they do. So I've

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Speaker 1: been asked a lot, and I just I want the

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Speaker 1: focus to remain on the division and I just don't

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Speaker 1: think now is the time for that.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people, I was gonna say when we

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Speaker 4: interviewed Mickey, that's the are you gonna wrestle in power?

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Speaker 4: She's like, it's not about me, you know. And same

560
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 4: thing with Gail. They're getting those questions again about her

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Speaker 4: doing something like I'm this is for the current girls,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the that's the problem is like as

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Speaker 1: soon as you start wrestling again, people are like, when

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Speaker 1: are you gonna get the title block? Yeah, it's like no,

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Speaker 1: that's like it muddy. Is the water too much?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Thank you makes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've had some fun talking with you. And before

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Speaker 2: we let you go, where can people keep up with

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Speaker 2: you online? And is there anything you want to leave

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Speaker 2: everybody with before we sign off?

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Speaker 1: Sure? You can always follow me on my Twitter, which

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Speaker 1: is Maria Elkanelis, my Instagram which is Maria Knelis. I

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Speaker 1: also have a Facebook, but I don't do a ton

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Speaker 1: of stuff with my Facebook. It's official Maria Canellis. You

578
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Speaker 1: can also catch me on Wednesdays on Women's Division Wednesday

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Speaker 1: or on Beyond the Bells, which is also on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and that's on the Ring of Honor YouTube channel. You

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Speaker 1: can catch me sometimes on Ring of Honor television, but

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Speaker 1: I usually try and keep myself off so I can

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Speaker 1: focus on actually writing the show. It's kind of important,

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Speaker 1: and you can always catch me and random interviews here

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Speaker 1: and there. So yeah, but yeah, no, I have a

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Speaker 1: Patreon and I've got that kind of stuff too. I

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Speaker 1: should probably do more with it. I think my followers

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Speaker 1: get a little irritated with me, but I'm like, I'm busy,

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Speaker 1: I got kids.

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Speaker 4: Man, they don't understand that I'm running a wrestling show.

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Speaker 1: Gee. But yeah, So there's lots of places to check

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Speaker 1: it out, and I would say, like, if you want

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Speaker 1: to catch the complete story of the Women's Division from

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Speaker 1: Ring of Honor, you're gonna definitely want to watch Women's

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Speaker 1: Division Wednesday because we go back and forth. We have

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Speaker 1: our own all women's show every single Wednesday, but then

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Speaker 1: we also have television matches that are usually every other

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Speaker 1: week or every third week. So lots and lots of

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Speaker 1: women's wrestling, right.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what we need more in this world,

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Speaker 2: especially just a dedicated women show every week, because I

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Speaker 2: mean most of the time you see a quick match

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Speaker 2: like that and it's over and then everything else is

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Speaker 2: gone to the wayside.

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Speaker 3: So that's great stuff.

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Speaker 2: Again, what Ring of honor is doing is the best

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Speaker 2: thing in the world. And Maria, I just want to

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Speaker 2: say thank you again for coming on the show. And

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Speaker 2: we'll have to do this again next time. We'll have

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Speaker 2: you and Mike on the show together, yes.

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Speaker 1: For sure, and then I can just actually put them

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Speaker 1: in the dust. As far as like a newlywed game.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that'll be great. We'll get some we'll load

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Speaker 4: the questions up real good.

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Speaker 1: So oh yeah, for sure. I don't know what would

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Speaker 1: be good questions, but we could talk about that later.

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