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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.

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Speaker 2: Welcome stuff I never told you productive of iHeartRadio, and

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Speaker 2: welcome to another edition of Half Hour. As always with these,

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Speaker 2: if you choose drink whatever you're doing, please do so responsibly.

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Speaker 3: Samantha, are you sipping on anything?

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Speaker 1: So I just had my coffee for the day?

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Speaker 4: Long story short, We're doing this very early in the morning,

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Speaker 4: so not very early, but earlier than usual for us.

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Speaker 4: So I'm sticking with my bubble water for now, but

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Speaker 4: I will be making a chai latte in a minute.

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Speaker 1: So, yes, you know, it's one of those days. What

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Speaker 1: about you.

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Speaker 2: I am actually drinking coffee. I don't normally drink coffee anymore.

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Speaker 1: It's just one of those days, huh.

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Speaker 2: It was one of those days. I was telling Samantha,

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Speaker 2: my voice sounds a little strange. I've been up sneezing

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Speaker 2: all night. I'm possibly allergic to the neighborhood cat.

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Speaker 3: I hope not. Because I love her.

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Speaker 1: I still want you to take her in.

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Speaker 2: I want her so badly. She was at my door

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Speaker 2: last night. She was outside my I opened it up

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Speaker 2: and she.

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Speaker 1: Was just seezing. Did she try to stay there?

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Speaker 3: She did?

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Speaker 2: I happen to know on good authority to people in

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Speaker 2: the building kind of take care of her. And I

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Speaker 2: thought she might cause chaos in my very messy, precariously

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Speaker 2: placed apartment, Like there's a lot of things she could

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Speaker 2: have knocked over. But I did come out and that

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Speaker 2: kind of cat though she doesn't. But cats can get

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Speaker 2: up to all kinds of mischiefs.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 4: Cat's are independent, Yes, creatures.

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Speaker 3: I mean this cat. I think she's got several buildings

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Speaker 3: she goes.

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Speaker 1: Between, probably like she's so cute though she.

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Speaker 2: Is, she really is, so I guess it was worth it.

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Speaker 2: But I have been up for a long time.

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Speaker 3: No sneezing, all right.

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Speaker 2: So today, speaking of doing things responsibly, we are going

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Speaker 2: to talk about hyperfixation. Oh yes, So before we get

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Speaker 2: into this, we are not talking about ADHD hyperfixation specifically,

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Speaker 2: which is kind of its own thing. Hyperfixation is often

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Speaker 2: associated with ADHD or autism, but anyone can experience it

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Speaker 2: for different reasons. Also, people mix this term up with

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Speaker 2: hyper focus. They are different, they are different things, and

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Speaker 2: people misuse the term a lot. I actually ran into

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Speaker 2: it for the first time a couple of years ago

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Speaker 2: in the fan fiction space, and I've never heard it before.

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Speaker 3: But now I see it. I see it kind of

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we might do a whole episode on this

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Speaker 2: in the future, but today we're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: my very personal experience with it, and I'm going to

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Speaker 2: say I've never been diagnosed with ADHD. A doctor did

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Speaker 2: tell me that he thought I had OCD on but

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Speaker 2: I never got it officially diagnosed. So very basically, hyperfixation

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Speaker 2: is when you have a quote intense focus on a

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Speaker 2: specific activity, hobby, or interest, and that's according to add

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Speaker 2: dot org. It can last for a few hours, days, weeks, months,

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Speaker 2: even years according to some sources, and it can be

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Speaker 2: hard to regulate. It is not always a bad thing,

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Speaker 2: though there are some positives with it, and it is

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to talk about my experience, and I

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Speaker 2: think mine is a bit more severe than what other

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Speaker 3: But it can be a very positive thing. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: It can be a lot. That's what I'll say, and

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Speaker 2: that's been my experience with it. So listeners, peek behind

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Speaker 2: the curtain. I completely lost track of our meta of

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Speaker 2: where our data sheet. Because I'm the one that's like this,

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Speaker 2: supposed to be Samantha's halfy hour this week she did.

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Speaker 2: It was a horrible misstep on my part, and it's

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Speaker 2: Like even as a kid, I would just get so

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Speaker 3: It just happens, and I don't know why it's happening

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Speaker 2: And it can feel kind of scary actually for me,

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Speaker 2: me as a kid, I because it can be so fun,

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Speaker 2: And so it comes with some guilt. Sometimes. This is

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 3: I know it.

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Speaker 2: Sounds really silly, but it is wild to me how

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Speaker 2: much I'm holding back.

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Speaker 3: Even with all of that stuff. You have no idea listeners.

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Speaker 2: How often in a podcast it's like, do not make

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Speaker 2: this about Star Wars right now, don't do it, don't

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Speaker 5: I could do a Star Wars reference right now, a

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: But I was reading about it and it was like,

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Speaker 1: So are you sitting there looking at this like going

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Speaker 2: This is another research like self diagnosis. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 3: And it can be.

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Speaker 2: Wild how you knew absolutely nothing about something and then

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Speaker 2: For some people, anxiety and where it can cause them

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Speaker 2: So there are a lot of reasons why people experience

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Speaker 2: To me, makes sense to me. Depression can also make

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Speaker 1: I think it's just the year. And yeah, I don't

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Speaker 2: Because you know, we've done episodes about fangirls and stuff

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Speaker 4: how did I get here.

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Speaker 1: Talking to were you?

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Speaker 3: What just happened to me?

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Speaker 2: And I mean, like I said, I haven't it's been

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Speaker 2: times have not been great, but it's been manageable. I

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Speaker 2: it's just one of those things. I think when you

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Speaker 2: why did this happen? Exactly exactly? There can be kind

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm here to help.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'll be in confusion together.

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Speaker 4: That's true because if you didn't know all the wait,

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Speaker 4: I'm not usually on top of this.

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Speaker 1: So what I'm usually asking.

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Speaker 3: You yeah, yeah in that meta sheet or we're tight yeah,

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Speaker 1: Need to know you don't have access, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: To be fair, the metas sheet is what we used

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Speaker 2: blame you, right.

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Speaker 5: No, every time I try, I'm like, no, okay, well

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Speaker 5: I've put in a good three minutes.

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Speaker 1: I'm done.

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Speaker 4: That's the limit of how many times because it's not

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm oh, yeah, yeah, still having tech

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Speaker 1: Time, you know, but you're doing wonderful. I'm proud of you. Wait,

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Speaker 1: way to be here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you show up for early. After that, a whole

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Speaker 2: lot of sneezing. Yeah, I didn't even get to hype

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Speaker 3: No, you can't later later, it's still a workday. Well, listeners,

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