1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: He says, listener discretion is advised. Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered 2 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: Eric looks good. I gotta give Eric props. He's got 3 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: his Charles Pittweller outfit on. He's all set, not how 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: it's pronounced. I have a new appreciation now, though, for 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: the Rivers First Tides argument that happened during one of 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: these parties. People were walking by Andy's throwing out f bombs. Yeah, 7 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. Gets were um lacking. Dudes. 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: Please join the dark side where we can question build 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: the GM. You don't have to twist yourself into a 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: pretzel defending the Patriots. Did you listen to the show 11 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 1: last night? I was just as disappointed with last night 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: as everybody else. Well, I just like people always coming 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: with this and I feel like I'm not this stupid 14 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: Belichick Hank that goes crazily well. Another great one, cold, strange, perfect, Chris. 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry didn't get to respond to you on the air, 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: but I have questions for you call back this week. 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: When did you start hitting Bill Belichick? When did it 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: become so miserable for you? Jack Jones, by the way, 19 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: would not comment on any of his off field issues. 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: He was asked about broke into restaurant, but he's not biting. 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome 22 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: the Patriots Unfiltered. It's Tuesday post draft here at Gillette 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: Stadium in Um. For the next two hours, we'll be 24 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: wrapping up what happened over the weekend, giving our thoughts, 25 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: the thoughts of others. So it's gonna be a great show. 26 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: I can just tell yep, me too, as they say, 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: I got my popcorn ready. Deuce is here, Eric's here, 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: Paul's here, Matt's in the booth. I'm here. So why 29 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: don't we start right off by running down you know, 30 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: because not everyone listen to the shows over the weekend. 31 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: I get hard to believe. But um, you know, some 32 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: people might appreciate a little wrap up of the picks 33 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: for the Patriots. Yeah, that says it all, doesn't that 34 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: right there? The big sigh. Well, I think that they, 35 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, the first round kick things off, and I 36 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: think that that drafting a guard, which we talked about, 37 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: was you know, a little disappointing for everybody. And you know, 38 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: I think the Patriots think that he's going to be 39 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: a Day one starter and come in. So I don't 40 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: think you can argue with that that's a need filled, 41 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: assuming he comes in and plays as a starter. Yeah, 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: there's no doubt it was a need. But I think 43 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: that they were off off the beaten path a little 44 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: bit and they went and did their own thing. And 45 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think people are really reacting strongly to 46 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: how the draft experts are painting the draft. I had 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: the opportunity to last couple of days to go and 48 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: look at, you know, watch these guys all play and see, 49 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: in the best case scenario, what they might bring to 50 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: the table, and and I have some excitement. I certainly 51 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: have some you know, reservations about some of the picks, 52 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: and you know, some questions, but I think that they 53 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: acquired a lot of what they needed. I don't think 54 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: they acquired everything that they needed, which I didn't expect 55 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: them to do. I think there were still some concerns, 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: but I think that they got some players are going 57 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: to help them, and I'm excited to see a lot 58 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: of these guys come up. Yeah, they they needed the 59 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: positions for the most part that they drafted. They needed 60 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: a guard they didn't. You can argue whether or not. 61 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: They needed him in the first round, but they needed 62 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: that position. They needed wide receiver. I thought they were 63 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: going to draft more than one, but whatever, they I 64 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: didn't think they'd need two running backs, but they they did. Um, 65 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: the edge position, that's I think what you're referring to. 66 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: As far as a need that I don't think went 67 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: went a dress. They did draft a defensive lineman, but 68 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: he's more of a I think he's I don't know, 69 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: more of an interior guy, not not not so much 70 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: an edge rusher. But yeah, you know, I mean I 71 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: think they they It was a to me, it was 72 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: a typical Patriots draft where they took a player you 73 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: didn't expect, They traded down, not necessarily out, but they 74 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: traded down. They took a position you didn't expect, They 75 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: took a bunch of players higher than you would have 76 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: expected them to pick. It was back to business as 77 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: usual for me as far as the Patriots drafts are concerned. Ye, yes, 78 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: a lot small school guys. That's a couple of cornerbacks fast, 79 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean fast. Yeah, that was another need I think, um, 80 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, um yeah, corner sorry yeah, and you mentioned fast, 81 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, Um, Thornton is fast. You know, if nothing else, Um, 82 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: the cornerback, the first cornerback they picked fast. Yeah, you know, 83 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: so if you if you want to get faster, you 84 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: better draft fast guys. So running back Peter Strong fast, 85 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: really fast, the fast fast were really fast guys. Yea. Yeah. 86 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: And the guard is fast wow. Athletic, No, in all seriousness, 87 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: the guard is one of the more athletic offensive lineman 88 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: in the draft. Yeah. And I think even you know, 89 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: Jack Jones, maybe not straight line speed, but but feisty 90 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: and quick. I mean, I think there's some size concerns 91 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: with the class, but I think Marcus Jones is my 92 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: my favorite guy right now, just because I think he's 93 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: gonna instantly give them an element of a dynamic returner 94 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: in punt return and kickoff return that they haven't really had. 95 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: I think, you know, Gunnar Alschowski, all due respect, it 96 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: was all pro season in twenties twenty. I think I 97 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: think Marcus Jones is really going to come in and 98 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: make an impact immediately on that. And I mean, you know, 99 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: I think the size with the cornerbacks is definitely something 100 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: to talk about, but I think that they're both really quick, 101 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: really feisty, athletic guys that can move. So we talk 102 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: about matching up with some of the speed. I think 103 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: I think I like I like those guys. Yeah, I mean, 104 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: I you know, I think, you know, like Pete Carroll 105 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: is famous for wanting long corners, you know, taller guys. 106 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: But you know when you look at some of the 107 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: great corners, you know, like Vis and you know even Gilmore, 108 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: they're not huge. Yeah, you know, like you can be 109 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: five to eleven and be a good corner in this league. 110 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: It's really how how you're able to just you know, 111 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: stay with your guy and locate the ball, you know, 112 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 1: that instinct, that timing to know when to turn around, 113 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: you know, and and be with a guy without you know, 114 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: without you know, uh, interfering with him, you know, and 115 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: drawing a flag that has less to do with size 116 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: than it just with your raw athletic ability, you know. Yeah, 117 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: and I see that with those guys. I mean I 118 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: would say, I think, you know, Marcus Jones is a 119 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: little bit underneath that, you know, five eight, that's a 120 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: little bit short. And with Jack Jones, it's it's it's 121 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: one seventy five. It's it's he's light. Um, you know, 122 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: maybe he has the height, but he doesn't quite have 123 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: the thickness. But I think all these guys competitive and 124 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: you know right there and and and you know, making 125 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: plays on the ball, and you know, those are the 126 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: things they're sitting and it's I think, you know, I 127 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: just you watched the draft unfold. They drafted a lot 128 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: of guys that weren't on the primary radar except for 129 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: maybe strange and so as you then all right, well 130 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: let's actually look at these guys, and you know, I 131 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: just I think the thing I'm most interested in with 132 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: this draft is to hear from our callers who have 133 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: been doing nothing but complaining about the lack of speed 134 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: and the lack of separation. And I want to hear 135 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: what they think about about Thornton, you know, because we 136 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: got so many calls about Jamison Williams. I'm not gonna 137 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: say he's Jamison Williams, but that's what Jamison Williams looks like. 138 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: That's a tall, skinny guy who's a burner. Um, you know, 139 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: production not the same exactly, But I just hope that 140 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: those people are going to give him a chance, because 141 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: that's that's that was a common refrain for two years. 142 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: We can't we don't have any speed, we don't have 143 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: any separation. Um. But you know, apparently because PFF for 144 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: the Draft Network projected him as a third or fourth rounder, 145 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: taking him in the second round makes him a nonstarter 146 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: in some people's eyes. That are at least you know 147 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: that I'm hearing that are the vocal people right now 148 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: who are saying this is like the worst draft in 149 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: NFL history. Yeah, well, as they say, we'll see. Um, oh, 150 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: we have to wait now, Okay, I get it. Well, 151 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: literally we don't, but we can have our own were 152 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: bad this year, so we'll wait to see how it all. 153 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we can have our own opinion, but to 154 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: truly know the answer, I'm gonna have to wait. I 155 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: agree with Mike on Marcus Jones. Um, I think for 156 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: a lot different reasons that Like, I think Mike is 157 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: a lot higher on it. I am really high on 158 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: Marcus Jones strictly because I think he will be an 159 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: electric return guy. And that's my Yeah, that's the only 160 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: saving grace to me in the draft. I I despise 161 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: this draft talked about him. Wow. I just I don't 162 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: think they I don't think they made a lot of 163 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: good picks. I don't. I mean, we'll see, like you 164 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: guys said, Yeah, but I don't think they made a 165 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: lot of good picks. No, what so are you more? 166 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: You know how that old saying, don't hate the sinner, 167 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: hate the sin. Are you not is here? Don't hate 168 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: the player, hate the pick. In other words, Yeah, well, 169 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hate player, right, but I've never even 170 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: met No, No, I don't. I don't mean, I don't 171 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: mean personally no, but I mean like, I'm not gonna 172 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: hate that. Like it's not like if if the if 173 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: Mike is right and then naysayers like that are all 174 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: ripping this draft. Let's say that they're right. It's not 175 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: Taikwan's fault that he got drafted four rounds higher than 176 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: people expected him to exactly. It's not like you know, 177 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: you use Pro Football focus. They had him like one 178 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ninth on the board. We took him fift. 179 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: We traded up to take him fifty. Yeah, I guess 180 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: that's not Tai kwan fault. Why should you hate him? 181 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: I got some insight on that one. I don't know 182 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: if you guys heard, but um, they they jumped over 183 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh to get him and I guess one of the 184 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: new coaches in Pittsburgh was his receivers coach at Baylor 185 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: for two years, and the Patriots thought that maybe Pittsburgh 186 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: was gonna grab him. Pittsburgh, I mean, they know what 187 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: they're doing on my receivers. They're like, oh, they got 188 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: to steal they must know something. Do you think they 189 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: draft receivers? Well? I did. Yeah. What do you think 190 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: the odds are that the guy they got won't be good? 191 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: Which one Pickins picks that he won't be good? Yeah, 192 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: less than ten percent. I think I liked him. I 193 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: liked him. I mean I was more aware of him 194 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: than I was like, I would be more apt to 195 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: say that that's true if they didn't take a receiver. Now, 196 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: you just tell me they would just going to take 197 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: a receiver no matter who was on the board. I 198 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: don't believe that they draft well I didn't say that, 199 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: No, no no, no, I'm saying the idea about Pittsburgh. Yeah, like, 200 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: well they might have had them, they might have had Pickens. 201 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: And that's an easy crutch. Anytime you take a player 202 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: that some people think is a reach, you automatically say, well, 203 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: you know, like like built it built said it Thursday night. 204 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: He wouldn't have been around much longer. I don't know that. Well, 205 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: he wouldn't. Maybe he would have gone to Tampa Bay 206 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: the next week. I don't know. Well, they moved up 207 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: for a reason. Oh, the Patriots. I'm talking about Strange. Oh, 208 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Thornton. Bill said after they picked Strange 209 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: that he wouldn't have been around much longer. That's what 210 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: he did say, right, So, I mean that's a good 211 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: crutch when it's absolutely impossible to know. No, but I'm 212 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: talking about Thornton. They moved up to get him, I know, 213 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: because they said that they thought Pittsburgh was going to 214 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: take him again, absolutely impossible to know. I know it 215 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: is impossible. But they felt strong enough that they did 216 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: move up. They I know, Yeah, they felt strong enough 217 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: to take Strange because they thought he was going to 218 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: be getting picked imminently. Why do we keep moving from 219 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: Thornton to Strange. They didn't move up to get Strange 220 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: because you can just explain away they actually moved down 221 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: and took Strange. You can explain away every move by 222 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: saying they thought he was going to get taken imminently. Okay, 223 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: but when a team forget about the Patriots, move up 224 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: and take a guy. Something's going on to make them 225 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: feel that they have to do that, I know. Yeah, 226 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: I don't think they are morons. Fred. I think that 227 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: they thought he was getting taken, okay, just like they 228 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: thought Strange was getting taken, so they took him. That's 229 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: what Bill said. Yeah. He also said that if they 230 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: didn't have a trade partner at twenty one, they probably 231 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: would have taken Strange at twenty one. Yeah, maybe that's 232 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: what I also think that if they had a Strange 233 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: trade partner at twenty nine, they would have moved back again. 234 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: So you don't believe Bill that that he was going 235 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: to get taken. I believe that, you know, being pressed 236 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: to have to take a pick. They took Strange because 237 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: they wanted him him. But do you think he wanted 238 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: out of the first round. I do. Well, that's not 239 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: what Bill said. And I know that you can't take 240 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: everything every day. I get that. I think if they 241 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: had found a dance partner to move into the second 242 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: round pick up some extra picks, they would have done that, 243 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: you know. So anyway, they did what they did. Yeah, 244 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: they did what they did, and that's the Chauffeurne. My 245 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: only thing is and I said, I have my popcorn 246 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: ready because I knew from talking to Deuce upstairs that 247 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: Deuce was was coming in hot and and I love it. 248 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: Um And it's an angry little duce. Yeah, he was angry, 249 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: angry Deuce, which that's my favorite dues. I don't know 250 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: about anybody else. We don't get to see a lot 251 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: of it, um my only like I don't really care 252 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: what other people necessarily say, because so often it there's 253 00:12:54,960 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: there's an agenda at work, but for an insistent amount 254 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: of years, Like can you remember the last time the 255 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: Patriots didn't get good draft grades? Now, yeah, I would agree. 256 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: I would agree with the people who think grades on 257 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: a draft immediately day after the draft are as foolish 258 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: as foolish can be. I agree with that wholeheartedly. Yeah. 259 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't take these any more seriously than I took 260 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: all the a's. But I do find it interesting that 261 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: it went from all as ye like ninety percent of 262 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: the time to a lot of question marks from all 263 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: of the same people. Yeah, I find that interesting. I 264 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: think they took a lot of small school guys, and 265 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: you know, it was almost like you know, trying to 266 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: be smart again, like you know, everyone's zigging, we're gonna za, 267 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna prove that we're picking up every rock. Listen. 268 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: I was disappointed because they didn't do what I wanted 269 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: them to do. I wanted to go defense, defense, defense, defense. 270 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: You know, everyone says the Kobe Dean is the steal 271 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: of the draft. Now I don't know about that, you know, 272 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: because a lot of teams passed him up for and 273 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: it had to be for a reason. But there were 274 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: some other guys and you know, linebacker, you know, fast 275 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: guys that I thought, oh boy, be great if they 276 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: could pick them up, and they didn't. Early, all right, 277 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: they did get the cornerbacks, which I you know, that's defense, 278 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, I know, third and fourth, round five, I know. 279 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: So I wanted defense early and often, and that didn't happen. 280 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: But what do I know? You know, what do I know? 281 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: But that's why I'm disappointed, because they didn't do what 282 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: I wanted them to do, you know, And that's all 283 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: these draft grades are. Right. Well, I don't know if 284 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: mel kiper went in to this saying this is what 285 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: I want the Patriots to do, because he doesn't he 286 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: doesn't care. I mean, he's more objective. No I am no, 287 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: I know he doesn't want for the Patriots, but like 288 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: who he would have taken at that spot? Yeah, who 289 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: who he thought was good is period? Yeah, and so 290 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: based on they're going again as to what he would 291 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: have done. That's how they grade these Yes, yeah, but 292 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: but and the other thing is like, okay, so if 293 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: you're mel Kiper and you've ranked your board and you've 294 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: published it, and you've come out with every you know 295 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: where you think guys should go, and then a team 296 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: goes against your thinking, you have to give him a 297 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: bad grade or else you're telling people that you were wrong. Yeah, 298 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: it's Paul's argument before you know. So if you've pre 299 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: published where you think guys are going, how they should 300 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: be ranked, you have to stick with that. After the trade, 301 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: it was that guy that said, you know who that 302 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: should be. You shouldn't hope you're wrong, right, You should 303 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: hope that the team that picked the guy a hundred 304 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: picks away from where you thought you should be picked. 305 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: So if the Patriots picked guys counter to his rankings, 306 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: he has to give them a bad grade. And for 307 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: mel Kiper, see plus is a bad grade. Yeah, yeah, 308 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: across the board, that's every that's everybody's you know, ranking, 309 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: so right, I just want always. I also love how 310 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: they all have to couch it like usually Bill Belichick 311 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: has an obvious track record of success and he's won 312 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: six and he is the greatest ever. And one time 313 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: he said hi to me, but but I don't Yeah, 314 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: please don't, please, don't beat me up. Yeah, I just 315 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: see the thing that you said, Fred, Like, do we 316 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: really think that they're just concerned with trying to like 317 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: zig like, like, we don't really win in football. We 318 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: just want to do right, Like do we really are 319 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: we really thinking that? Or do they really believe that 320 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: they drafted a bunch of good players? Because I think 321 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: that they believe they drafted a bunch of Oh, there's 322 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: no doubt they're not just out to prove that they're 323 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: smarter than everybody. And like, you know, this is what 324 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: I like about the draft. Though. We're gonna see these 325 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: guys are all gonna show up. They're gonna have to 326 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: play out There're they're either gonna be able to play 327 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: or they're not gonna be played. They're gonna win games 328 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: or they're not gonna win games. That's what the that's 329 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: where the grades come from. And you know, I just 330 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: I just hope that people are so outraged, would at 331 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: least go and maybe look at some of these players 332 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: and say, well, you know, in a best case scenario, 333 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: if this guy's game translates as it was in college, 334 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: what do we have? And I think that you've got 335 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: some good players that improved your team. I don't know 336 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: that it's gonna work out, but you know that's I 337 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: just think grades are stupid, as we can all agree 338 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: two days after the fact, when they've never even been 339 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: in the building. Um, well, don't put me in the 340 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: box of like I'm just the every graph was great, 341 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: Like let me, can I come at you for a second? 342 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: Come Ome, I want to come at you about something 343 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: really specific, like the matrix the hand? What do you 344 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: what do you think of Jamison Williams. I have concerns 345 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: the same kind of concerns I'm gonna have about Thornton 346 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: with the no I didn't love them, but they don't 347 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: like them? And now that was what was it about 348 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: that positive? What was it about? What didn't I like 349 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: about him? Comporting their favorite word, comport man? I said, 350 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: who by draft process important. No, you don't like it up, 351 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: Matt dig it up concerned. He's skinny like Jamisons. He's 352 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: lightning fast, separation can do number of things the same 353 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: thing as Jamison. I've never heard anybody, I mean, maybe 354 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: maybe it's true, but I haven't heard a lot of 355 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: people questioned Jamison Williams's ability to get open and get 356 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: off press coverage. No, but his size. That's what I 357 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: do that. I brought it up when I talked about 358 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: him too. And I also think that it's difference being 359 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: the SEC in the Big twelve. I think that's a 360 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: big difference. And he even was was it started his 361 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: career at Ohio State, which I mean their wide receiving 362 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: corps has been really good. And those guys are translating 363 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: to the league. Yeah, wow, just like Alabama's are. Speed 364 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: is speed, size is size, and speed is speed. Bethel 365 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: Johnson and Chad Jackson had speed. Sure, that's it, but 366 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: that's all we hear. That's why can't get separation. They 367 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: got no down phil speed, Well they got it. We'll 368 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: see if it translates with Mac Jones and in the offense. 369 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: But you know, I remember walking down the hall after 370 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: one of the shows, and I said to you guys, 371 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: I just want one more guy. I want something to 372 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 1: see at training camp, and I'm excited. I'm excited to 373 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: see Taekwon Thornton out there and see what kind of 374 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: dimension he brings to the team in the offense and 375 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: you know how they use him and what kind of 376 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: speed he brings. So I got that piece of it. 377 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: It wasn't you know, it wasn't the traditional guy that 378 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: I usually feel like they like. You know, I am 379 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: surprised that they went in that direction, but I think 380 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: it speaks to they clearly got faster, Like they clearly 381 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: address things that people have been complaining about the most 382 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 1: in terms of Pierre Strong, in terms of Thornton, in 383 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: terms of you know, the defense of the defense of 384 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: Marcus Jones turns like crazy. But here's my thing, right, 385 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: I wanted speed so that maybe we could force the 386 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: Bills to punt. You want a defensive speed. I didn't 387 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: get that. Well yeah, yeah, and they did need all 388 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Mike is right about that, they 389 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: did need all around speed. I just I don't think 390 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: they needed to get like a lightning fast running back. 391 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: I think there's two the two running back picks to 392 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: me or as head scratching as anything they did in 393 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: this draft, and to double up on a position that 394 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, you have two established guys, So are you 395 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: Are you saying that definitively you're just gonna let Damian 396 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: Harris walk, Which is fine if you do by I 397 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: just feel like, well, also, maybe j J. Taylor isn't 398 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: the backup to James White that they want, you know, 399 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: and reports that James White can't even work out yet, 400 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, so maybe they're still looking for that pass 401 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: catching run. This guy is a project as a pass catcher. 402 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: Is he He has some production as a receiver, and 403 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: we talked about it during the draft, But I'm starting 404 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: to write his thing up and it's the number. The 405 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: numbers aren't necessarily like he's got a long way to 406 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: go to be a three down option. That's that's a 407 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: viable point. And I think a lot of people just 408 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: jumped to this. Did James White? I did because I 409 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: saw I looked up the stats. I think he has 410 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: sixty something catches in his career, but he's not considered 411 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: to be a gifted Receiver's well, I mean, I think 412 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: he's one of the things said that he has lava 413 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: for hands. Oh, I see, I've seen good reviews of 414 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: his hands, and but you know, his hatches the ball 415 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: like it's made of lava, really, And what I watched 416 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: he I thought he had pretty good hands and was 417 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: catching the ball, but he wasn't used as like all 418 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: like James Cook. Sixty some odd catches. How many targets 419 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: did he have? You know what's that's that's like four 420 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: years Yeah, okay, but it's not great and at the 421 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: f FCS level too. Yeah, but he's got some, He's 422 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: got some wiggled to him. I was. I was more 423 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: impressed with him as a as a running back than 424 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, the catching, which looked fine, but it wasn't 425 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, like I mentioned James Cook, who was receiving 426 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: back in college, and you know that's clearly what he 427 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: translates to. So you know, he's a little bit more 428 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: more balanced, I think than than maybe initially right out 429 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: of the gate we thought, all right, so we all, 430 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a fun off season with Paul 431 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: and Mike. Yeah, usually Mike just sways me to his 432 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: side of things, but I don't think he's gonna do 433 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: that in this well, way do we get out there 434 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: and then all Asaden Tekekwon Thornis is blown by everybody 435 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: in a this that'd be great. I'm expecting him to 436 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: blow by these guys. Oh and we had some undrafted 437 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: free agent signings anyone of note? Um yeah, yeah, de 438 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: Kings like him. Kind of a family friend that one too. Yeah. 439 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: Kobe Tippett, Oh no, not no, he's not a he's 440 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: a tryout guy, I believe. Yeah, yeah, but I mean 441 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: still yeah, But congratulations to Andre Tippett Son getting you know, 442 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: a chance to try out with the team. Really, I mean, story, 443 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: talk at him yesterday. You must be like over the hill. 444 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: I mean because whatever the moon over the moon over 445 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: the hill or whatever, much like you and I, but 446 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, Jesus, just to be able to Bill who's 447 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: over the hill never ever ever, just to be have 448 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: that opportunity, you know. Yeah. I hope he doesn't make 449 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: it to camp. Yeah, yeah. Story. One other guy that 450 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: I noted was was Cody Russey from Houston, who's a 451 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: center and I think they gave him like one hundred 452 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: and eighty K guaranteed, which so far of the reported 453 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: money guaranteed. That's well in a way the most. UM love, 454 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: he was just an interesting one. I love the tracking 455 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: of the guaranteed money for the undrafted free agents. Um, 456 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: what does David Andrews' contract status? How he's for a while, 457 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: maybe even three I think. And then last year it 458 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: was the last day extension. Yeah, oh yes, it yeah. 459 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: I bring it up because a lot of the defense 460 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: of Strange, which it got there it by by Sunday. 461 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: There was a lot of strong, cold Strange defending going on, Um, well, 462 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: you know he can he can play center. And I'm like, yeah, 463 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: you have a guy playing center, Like what what you know? 464 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: You just resigned him? Like why do you need a 465 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, why did you need a center like that? 466 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: The versatility of being able to play center and guard. 467 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: I didn't get that. And then I think did they 468 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: signed two undrafted guys that were kind of predominantly centers, right, 469 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: the LSU kid that grew up around and Liam Shanahans 470 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: he's his uh Harvard. Yeah, he started his career at 471 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: Harvard and transferred to LSU for his last year. Played 472 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: pretty well. He was very excited. I know his um 473 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: his uncle is a friend of the family. Uh. So 474 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: I had a little bit of a connection, not not 475 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: not not not not, but um, he was he had 476 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: I had found out that he had been into for 477 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: a visit late last week and he was really hoping 478 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: that they signed him. He thought there was a chance, 479 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 1: but he wasn't expecting to get drafted. Are you saying this? Um? 480 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: I just thought that was interesting, Mike, that they had 481 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: a couple of like you don't really see a lot 482 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: of centers. That's it says like he was a center 483 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: a lot of times. It's a guard who can play 484 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: center or o l Yeah. Well, I think all the 485 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: all the offensive lineman um that they drafted all have 486 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: some versatility to him. Yeah. And I think Jason Hines 487 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: low round guy. I mean he looks like when you 488 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: you know what brought that up? Those are the picks 489 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: I loved. Y three three big offensive linemen late the draft. 490 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: One of them more than likely will hit it. I 491 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: mean it just that that's where you find your offensive lineman. Yeah, 492 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: and it seems like they've had to do that a 493 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: lot the last five years or so, draft multiple offensive 494 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: linemen bringing you know, there's two two they said, right, 495 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: there's stuber in Hines, Right, Yeah, stubor Hines are drafted 496 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: us see Shanahan where the other one defensive linemen. Yeah, 497 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: and strange of course, But but it doesn't seem to 498 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: you like that they've been drafting a lot of offensive 499 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: linemen them trying like like that's what you do. Yeah, 500 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: I want I want them to hit. I don't have. 501 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: I wonder what other teams they're probably doing the same thing, 502 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: because you need a lot. That's why that's why I'm 503 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: so upset about the need to have I don't want 504 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: one in the first you need to have eight of 505 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: them on your roster at any given time. I guess 506 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: I just feel like, to me, it's it's an admission that, 507 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: all right, we we we failed on last year's draft 508 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: with these guys. We've got to take them again. We 509 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: failed on last year's draft. We gotta take them again. 510 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: Like at some point you want to have like your 511 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: five offensive linemen for a while. They failed that. They 512 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: had two guys leave, They had Caras left and and 513 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: what's his face left? They traded one. Yeah, I know 514 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: they're gone, they're gone. Yeah, you know so, But I 515 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: but I look at see I think that's one of 516 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: the people that criticize Belichick in the draft I think 517 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: that's an area that they've been really good at. I mean, 518 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: if you look at it, it's Ted Carris was a 519 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: fifth round pick. I think, Tuny I think was a 520 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: third round pick. Shack Mason I think was a fourth 521 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: round pick, when you was a sixth round pick. These 522 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: these are guys that have started games for you in 523 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: most cases. I mean when you a little less so 524 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: than the other three. But the other three were really successful, 525 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: I mean really solid. Mean, Tuny and Mason were as 526 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: good starting tandem of guards as there is in the league. 527 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: But then you end up like franchise in one and 528 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: then giving a long term, big money extension and then 529 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: you just you let them walk. I would say, you 530 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: let him walk because you're comfortable and confident that you 531 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: can replace him with fourth and fifth round picks, and 532 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: then you take one in the first round. Like that's 533 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: the part that I that I don't like. Yeah, like 534 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: Cole Strange, I have no doubt will be a starter 535 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: on day one, and he'll be fine. Everybody will tell 536 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: me he's Hannah because they picked him in the first round. 537 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: He'll be fine. I haven't I don't have a fear 538 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: of the Patriots are gonna fall short this year, Mike, 539 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: because cold strings just couldn't hold up in the interior. 540 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: I guarantee you that I will not be saying that, 541 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be saying that if he was a 542 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: fifth round pick either. Yeah, like we you know, we 543 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: fell short. Like can you think of a guard? Think 544 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: about over the all of the years, whether it was 545 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: Joey and Drusie way back when when it all started, 546 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: Mike Compton, um Russ Hochstein, Neil Steven. I'm trying to 547 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: sell Ryan Wendel, like, guys, come and go. What are 548 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 1: these guys all have in common? None of them were 549 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: drafted in the first round, like they had Logan Mankins. 550 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: Everybody says, well, maybe they got another Mankins. Maybe they do. 551 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: I love Mankins both personally and professionally. You didn't have 552 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: to take a guard in the first round. And I 553 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: don't think they took a Alread in that first round. 554 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: He was a guy who played all tackle in college 555 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: that they moved to guard in the pros. Do you 556 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, well did they take him 557 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: to play guard? I think that they probably had an 558 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: idea that he would move to guard, because they didn't 559 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: really need, but he could play tackle, as he proved. 560 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: Yeah here, you know that was another one you know 561 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: on draft night where you know, sometimes you get a 562 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: little defensive. I thought the new guy Macro sounded a 563 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: little defensive at times on both Friday and Saturday, talking 564 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: about the versatility. But he don't want to give me 565 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: the numbers. He had like forty four career starts, forty 566 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: two of them at left guard. But yeah, because a 567 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: guy played a game at tackle doesn't mean he is versatility. 568 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: But the other thing he was talking about, and I 569 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: think with Strange in mind, was toughness. What and so 570 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: the question did we have a problem with toughness? Was 571 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: this not up to the toughness that they wanted a 572 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: tough team? You gotta draft tough players. That line he had, 573 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: which I thought was like kind of odd, Yeah, yeah no, 574 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: And I mean just to interject like I'm with you 575 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: on this pick, like I had the same reaction, then 576 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, and I'm not telling you he 577 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: can't play Like these people. We got some a SPFWS 578 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: and some people are like, well, who were you to 579 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: analyze it? Cole Stranger is a guy on everybody's radar. 580 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,719 Speaker 1: I am famous. I'll tell you, I'm famous for ignoring 581 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: the offensive line, right, I always kind of I poked 582 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: fun at myself in the pre draft process. By far 583 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: and away the fewest amount of guys I watch and 584 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: study or offensive lineman, I saw Cole Strange. Yeah. Yeah, 585 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: he was in the top tier of the guys and 586 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 1: according to these draft experts. Yeah right, So it's not 587 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: like he's a guy that was just completely off the 588 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: radar that no one had ever heard of, which is 589 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: what people were trying to do an ASPFW this week, 590 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, just because you never heard of him, 591 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: like I heard of him. Yeah, I mean I heard 592 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: of him and I watched some highlights of him in 593 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: the pre draft process. Yeah, not that I'm an expert. 594 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I don't put a grade next to him 595 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: and tell you where he's going to go. I just 596 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: look at other people. Well, you know, everybody had him 597 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: sort of like late day two, maybe even early day three. 598 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: It's kind of like Dugger. You know, when a guy 599 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: from a smaller school or conference even is on the 600 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: second round radar, which is where Strange was and where 601 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: Dugger was, and where Dougger was ultimately taken. I think 602 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: maybe here they think, okay, he's that good that you know, 603 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: he's in the mix, you know, see, But that's my point, 604 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: Like no one had a problem with Dugger. Dugger got 605 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: taken exactly where everybody thought he was gonna get taken, 606 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: right right. Everybody you know, was sort of scratching their 607 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: heads about strange because a lot of people had him 608 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: in the third or fourth round, but a lot of 609 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: people had him in the second round two one with 610 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: just one Well he was he was dot com, he 611 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: was on the cusp. I think I think most people 612 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: had him ranked like seventy. Like if you if you 613 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: just stacked the best players on the in the draft, 614 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: he was in that low seventies. So let's just out 615 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: of the second round. Jard just posted a thing too. 616 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: He talked to a team that said they had a 617 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: second round grade on him. So yeah, I know there's 618 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. You just get into that 619 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: stuff and it's like it's another thing. It's another thing 620 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: I like too, right, No, no, no no, not with Mike. 621 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: But um, sort of the the battling among the media 622 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: people that cracks I found somebody, you know, but but 623 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: Dard quote talk to six six teams, none of which 624 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: had him on the radar. Gasper says, talk to one 625 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: personnel guy who said that that's absolutely a good, solid pick. 626 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: He was going early second round. Giardi says, talk to 627 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: a number of personnel executives. None of them had him 628 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: anywhere near the first round. But then but like Mike 629 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: just said, because he found one said second So like 630 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: I mean seriously, like, well, we're gonna we're gonna kill people. Like, like, 631 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: I saw another another one in the mail bag. I 632 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: was talking about Jamaine Johnson, right, well, who's grading the graders? 633 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: The guy says, because Jammy Johnson fell with Jammy Johnson 634 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: went like ten picks later than he was, like project, Yeah, 635 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: he dropped in the first round. A lot of people 636 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: had him in the top half of the first round. 637 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: He went in the bottom half of the first round. 638 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: Some people that's not the same as a guy that 639 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: got drafted that was supposed to be eighty ninth and 640 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: when twenty ninth. Yeah, like there's a big difference there. Yeah. 641 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: The question I have about Strange is I don't quite 642 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a scout. I'm not evaluating the 643 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: offensive line play. But the question is was guard that 644 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: much of a need position that you had to take 645 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: one at that spot, Like like you said before, they 646 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: couldn't find a trade partner. They wanted to trade out. 647 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: You had to make a pick. Well, it was a need, 648 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: but did you not think you could fill it later? 649 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: That's my point, That's what I would say. I think 650 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: it was that much of a need position they needed 651 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: a starter at guard, right. I just think you could 652 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: have gotten it in like Jason Hines, like, would you 653 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: feel any different? I mean, be honest, no, No, I'm 654 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: with you on this pick. I'm with you on the 655 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: on the strange like, like, I just feel like if 656 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: if they had taken Jermaine Johnson or Trent McDuffie and 657 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: then tried to get Strange in the second round, no problem, 658 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: and they didn't get them. Yeah, okay, I'll take that instead. Yeah, 659 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: and I'll get them on my next pick. Yeah, I catch, 660 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: I catch on the next one. Yeah, I'm with you 661 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: on that one. But um, you know in two in 662 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: two guards. By the way, the Patriots were originally fifty 663 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: four before they traded up to fifty, right, there were 664 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: two guards that went like fifty six and fifty eight 665 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: or something like that one to Tampa. Tampa took one. Yeah, 666 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: the Wram Broms were later and the kid, the kid 667 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: from LSU went They were right in the right in 668 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: the area where the Patriots we're going to pick their sex. 669 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: So I think, now maybe you could argue with me. 670 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: They thought Strange was far and away superior to the 671 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: two guys that went. Get Ecky I think was one 672 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: of them, and uh Ingram maybe from LSU. This is 673 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: the time of year to forget about you think this 674 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: is bad, you think this is bad, Wait till the 675 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: season starts. Oh yeah, and I have to look at 676 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: What can I say? Do we like him? We like him? 677 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: And he's not here anymore to tell me if I 678 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: liked him. So it's Mike, you love You loved him 679 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: With Mike, I don't have to tell me I didn't 680 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: like anybody, because you hate everybody. Yeah. Can I talk 681 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: about Sam Roberts a little bit? Sure? Oh yeah, we 682 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: haven't mentioned Sam Roberts. I mean, like, I always a 683 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: D two guy, but holy crap, you turn on him 684 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: and watch him just picking guys up and throwing him. 685 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to translate to the NFL. 686 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: But he was fun to watch. I mean, he is 687 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: just it's kind of like Barmore and I'm very curious. 688 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: I like that style of play, get up field, strong guy. 689 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they're just if you haven't seen yet, people listening, go, 690 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, just go watches about a minute of highlights 691 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 1: on Patriots dot com. It's just him picking up offensive 692 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: linemen and throwing them into the backfield. Um. But then 693 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: a big Patriots fan too, which was kind of cool. 694 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean the celebration and all that, and you know, 695 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: that's the stuff I try to focus on at this 696 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: point while everybody's you know, stumping their feet about it, 697 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: and you know, just remembering these are these are kids too, 698 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: were excited and living there there dream and oh what 699 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: he got a fist pump by Paul Oh who was 700 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: at ingram. I had antic but h but I think 701 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: he's I mean, look, I wanted more on the front 702 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: seven defense defense defense. I was on that page too, 703 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: But after watching him, i mean they picked him, was like, 704 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: who the hell is that guy? I mean, you know, 705 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: not really on anybody's radar, but um, but you can 706 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: see what he what he can do. He's a big, 707 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 1: big dude. And he plays plays really strong and tough. 708 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: So I'll give you one. I'll give you one funny 709 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: one on this. I'm not I'm not going to pretend 710 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: to be able to tell you anything about Sam Roberts 711 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: from Division two Northwest Missouri State. Um. I heard a 712 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: guy over the weekend talking about the draft. You know, 713 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: you know that, like like when you always make fun 714 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: of me, Freddie Ye draft filling guys, you know, you 715 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: always tell what it's some guy goes, you know, and 716 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: he blocked He blocked like eight kicks. So I give 717 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: you like special teams, Like do you think maybe defensive 718 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: tackle that was capable of getting drafted in the NFL. 719 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: Maybe that's why he blocks many right in college? Right, 720 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if you really and it's true and they 721 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: say it all the time, if you're if you're coming 722 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: from a lower school, you got better be growing dudes 723 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: around and dominating, throwing dudes around and dominating. And I 724 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: put together a feature on hands poked to his to 725 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: his college coach and you know, just said he's you know, 726 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: real focused kid, and and you know whatever. That was 727 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: one of the three six artists, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 728 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: So I no mean, dude throw issues with that take 729 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: throw it, throw it dart at a guy that has 730 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: obviously some physical attributes. Yeah, you know, what's what's what's 731 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: the what's the harm there? Like? Yeah, Zappy. The more 732 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: the more I'm reading and it's just one of my 733 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: guys too, Yeah, more I'm reading about this. Yeah, the 734 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: less I like it, other than the fact that Mike 735 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: Ahead usually your business quote it's good business. It is good. 736 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: Other than it's good business, take quarterbacks in the middle rounds, 737 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: I don't really see what. I don't see all the 738 00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: Mac well, he was certainly preach numbers in an aread offense. 739 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: I didn't get to do my my usual jto Sullivan 740 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: QBA QB school plub, but he did do a video 741 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: on him which I watched yesterday and against Army and 742 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: all seriously up and down, up and down. Have you 743 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: have you ever looked into asking jto Sullivan if he's 744 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: you know, looking to getting slide you a little slide 745 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: a little. I know that's why I got him. I 746 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: haven't talked about him in a year since I wrote 747 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: the watch with the year two thing with Mac, but uh, 748 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: you know it's the scouting reports have him as that 749 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: Matt kind of not going to blow you away with 750 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 1: the physical attributes, but but seems to understand where things 751 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: are and knows where to go to the bu with 752 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: the ball. Um. But I'm watching him. I started reading 753 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: about him a little bit, you know, a little bit 754 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: slow getting rid of the ball. You know, the decision 755 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: making is not always sound, And I'm like, so in 756 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: other words, and he's in an air raid offense. So 757 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: whenever he just gets the ball and he throws it 758 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: right to the guy that he's supposed to throw it to, 759 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: everything is fine. And that's what that offense is. That's 760 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: old Texas tech offense that Mike Leach had, and really 761 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: the only guy who ever amounted to anything as a 762 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: quarterback out of that is Mahomes. Like there's a litany 763 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: of Cliff Kingsbury's BJ Simons that like just couldn't do 764 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: it when they got to the NFL. Yeah, I just 765 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we know it's I've said it's good business, 766 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: but I still just find the reaction so funny. It's like, 767 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: who people really can't see what they're doing, Like like 768 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: you're talking about like he's going to come in and 769 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: compete with They don't like now that was ridiculous. That's 770 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: high comedy. I mean some of the people, some of 771 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 1: the people were convinced they don't trust Mac. I see, 772 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm kind of in the middle, like, I think it's 773 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: ridiculous to say, like, he's here to compete with Mac, 774 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: which I did. Mike's right, you know how you always 775 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: say who who, Well, Mike hurt him too. The same 776 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: people were saying, oh, yeah, I think that's ridiculous to 777 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: suggest that he's here to compete with machiculous. But I 778 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: also think it's ridiculous to suggest that it doesn't have 779 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: anything to do with Mac. I think it does, at 780 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: least at least a little bit. I don't. I don't. 781 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: I just think they've picked quarterbacks before and you know, yeah, yeah, 782 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,479 Speaker 1: we'll see with him. But uh. And then the last 783 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: one I think we discussed Kevin Harris. I was kind 784 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 1: of on him too as I dove into him big 785 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: kind of stiff. I seems more an early down guy. 786 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: But it's an intriguing pick because he had a really 787 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: really good year as a sophomore and then had back 788 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: surgery um off, an injury that I think he suffered 789 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: in the off season in between and he had a 790 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: down year last year, which is kind of strange that 791 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: he would come out off of that. But my guess 792 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: is he's concerned about the back injury, wants to get 793 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: in the league for a couple of years before he 794 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: watches out. But yeah, I mean he Mike's right. He's 795 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: more of a early down kind of threat, great ball security, 796 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: only one fumble in his career on almost four hundred 797 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: touches altogether, whereas conversely, Pierre Strong had five fumbles last 798 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: year as a senior. So yeah, a little bit different. 799 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: All right, I'm eager to hear what our listeners have 800 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: to say. Five five Pats five hundred is the ace 801 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: ticket hut Line web radio at Patriots dot com is 802 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: the email address. We'll start with Todd and Greenville. What's up, Todd, 803 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: Hope you can hear me good today. I know you 804 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: guys had a couple of calls lately, and yet much 805 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: better with respect is strange. I really kind of like 806 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: his athleticism and his ability to kind of get ahold 807 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: of somebody and keep him. But a couple times I've 808 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: watched some of his some of his highlights, and he's 809 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: standing there in that half croach that a guard has 810 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: with his arms spread wide and meanwhile the pockets are 811 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: collapsing on his quarterback behind him. He's staring downfield, just 812 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: standing there like, oh, that's not so good. And with Thornton, 813 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: I think Paul already mentioned it, there's some issue with 814 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: him getting off the press coverage because I watched the game. 815 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: I think they're playing Kansas and he just couldn't I 816 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: couldn't get if they pressed him right on the line, 817 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: he couldn't get free. But he did go down blocking. 818 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: I watched him on a lot of the plays they 819 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: had the whole game, his highlights and every time they're 820 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: on the ball, he was out there blocking. He was 821 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 1: throwing his body up. So my question is how much 822 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: coaching can you do with these guys to get them 823 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: so that they don't make these kind of mistakes and 824 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: get them going. Because who's our receivers coach? I don't 825 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: even know right now. And I know we're kind of 826 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: an old line coach by committee, aren't we at this time? 827 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: Old line? I think, well, we think we think that's 828 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: gonna be mattat wise that I think, yeah, but we 829 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 1: don't know. We're not sure. We're not sure, um wide receiving. 830 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,919 Speaker 1: Who is the wide receivers coach. I don't know Imbart, 831 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: but he's gone right, Yeah, maybe Troy, Maybe Troy. And 832 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: I thought Troy was gonna be with running backs. But 833 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: I'll go back to you. Last year he was running, 834 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: wasn't he. Yeah, I think he was. The first year 835 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: he was running back, he was the assistant running back. 836 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: This year he was with the receivers with with milk Uh. 837 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: Troy Brown was wide receivers and kick returners last year, 838 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: So he'll probably do the coach. Yeah, I mean, I 839 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: just answer your question about Strange. I think I mean 840 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: a competent all offensive line coach. I think that's a 841 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: big part of technique and the jump, and I think 842 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: that that's something that that you know, he'll he'll make 843 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: strides with that. That's NFL level coaching offensive line thing. 844 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: The last thing is I want to walk Deuce in 845 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: a room with Chris Sheim and just let them go 846 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: over this draft together. Shut Oh Shim is the one 847 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 1: with Handy that they do the off day podcast. Go 848 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: and get your shine box? Oh yeah? Why is he 849 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: is he worst draft of all time? Is that? I 850 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: think he thinks that Hello I think we lost last ye. Anyway, 851 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: the another buzzword that I was kind of chuckling at 852 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,760 Speaker 1: his you know, you know Cole Strange, you know makes sense, 853 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: really good pick you gotta protect mac And then you 854 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: read about him like the one thing that he doesn't 855 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: do great is pass protect Like oh great, because it 856 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 1: does seem like Strange is one of these like really 857 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 1: super all around, like checks all the boxes like great guy, leader, 858 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, good personality, loves football, you know, has good 859 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: athleticism for the position, and you hear all a lot 860 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: of good things about him, but the one thing that 861 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: you have heard in a negative is pass protection he's 862 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: not really Yeah, although Polish isn't there at a stat 863 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: like he's only given up one sack in three years 864 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: or something like that. Who who does those well? I 865 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: don't know the analytics people, but in Todd's watching the 866 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: game where he's standing around as his quarterbacks getting killed 867 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: but not blocking anybody, I don't know. Yeah, I like, 868 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: how do you judge whether or not a guy's good 869 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: at pass protection if he loses his one on one battle, 870 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: like it doesn't always result in a sack. Yeah, you 871 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 1: can make a defendive judgment just by those two clips 872 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 1: of him losing to Travis Jones. You see it found 873 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: the two clips, about two clips there they are. Let's 874 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: pass it around. Tavish Jones should have gone in the 875 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: top ten, by the way, because look what he did 876 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: to Curtis Strange. Oh is that going to be a thing. 877 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 1: One thing though, on Strange, I did retweet his coach 878 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: put out a video last night that I thought was great, 879 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: just talking about I mean almost just how grateful they 880 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: were to have him at the program and just what 881 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 1: a professional he was constantly and every single thing that 882 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 1: he did, and he just goes right down the list 883 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: of what a professional he was and approached every day 884 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: the same and he never slipped once. I thought it 885 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 1: was great. It was like having another coach there. Wow, 886 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: I don't go that far. Six years. Let's go to 887 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: only the Patriots could draft ten guys and not get younger. 888 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: We should have known. We should have known that this 889 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: was going to be the pick too, because remember mac 890 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: Ro and his pre draft press conference talking about a 891 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,439 Speaker 1: lot of these guys, guys have played like six years 892 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: of college football. Hint hint, wink wink. Yeah, you should 893 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: have seen it coming. I mean there were a lot 894 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: of hints that Bill at the draft party about the trades. Yeah, 895 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: right about that, you know speed Now, yeah, let's go 896 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: to christ I wonder if Bill was talking about the 897 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: trades of players. Oh, I don't know, because that to 898 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: me was like I didn't think there was like an 899 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,959 Speaker 1: inordinate amount of trades with draft picks. But Hollywood Brown 900 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 1: in a J. Brown that that was the first round. 901 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: Let's go to Chris with a T I A n. Hey, Christian, Hey, guys, 902 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: what's going on? How's it going good? You are right, 903 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: you'd sound a little down. Do you want me to 904 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,439 Speaker 1: call the priest? No? Maybe a couple of weeks ago, 905 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: but I've had like a sinus inspection like the past 906 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: three weeks. I'm just starting to feel a little bit 907 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:53,240 Speaker 1: it's time to suck it up a little bit. Yeah, alright, alright, 908 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: I was being sarcastic. I've been coughing on an air 909 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: for like three weeks. Said, I know, I know, That's 910 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 1: why I said it. You got it from Paul obviously 911 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 1: listening to the show. Infect in my air, and what 912 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: do you want? I mean? You know, I you know 913 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: I was you know, I knew we were in trouble 914 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 1: when it was the first fifteen minutes of the show 915 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: was dead air, and then it was followed by fifteen 916 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: minutes of fifty talking, which I wish was dead air. 917 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: At the topic for another day. I mean, much like 918 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 1: the Patriots draft. I know he does stuff with him 919 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: and everything, but he just I just I don't understand 920 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: the fascination cli um. But I you know, I think, 921 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: like for me, when you look at the draft, the 922 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: maddening thing. Uh you know, look, they got speed, great, 923 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: been jumping up and down for years that they needed 924 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: to get speed. Um, where a guy gets picked, and 925 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: how everybody takes their pants off when they trade the 926 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: ninety fourth pick and they get a twenty twenty three 927 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 1: third round pick and it's great value And it's just 928 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: that and the other thing drives me up a wall. 929 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: I feel like people are more or upset about where 930 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: a player was picked rather than the player that was picked. 931 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: If that makes any sense. Um, yeah, it does. Mean 932 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 1: it's just it's just maddening. And I just want the 933 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,240 Speaker 1: team to get better obviously like everybody else. And and 934 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: and they addressed speed, which was great. Let's see if 935 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 1: these guys can play. I'm absolutely stunned that they didn't 936 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: take somebody in the front seven until the sixth round. 937 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 1: I'm blown away by that, Like I you know, Paul, 938 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,359 Speaker 1: you had the article over the weekend about the linebackers. Boy, 939 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: you're putting a lot of eggs and those and those 940 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:41,280 Speaker 1: baskets that those guys can play. And with the exception 941 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: of Ucha, who's you know, flashed and that's being kind, 942 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,760 Speaker 1: the rest of them have done nothing. No, no, no, 943 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: we don't know. So. Um, we've been killing them for 944 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: their previous drafts. Maybe this is the air that that 945 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: that you know, they gets fruit. What the perkins the world? Yeah, 946 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: I was listening to Ted Johnson a little bit and 947 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 1: Ted Johnson is he's pretty high in the draft by 948 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: the way, um for what reason? Did well. One of 949 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,879 Speaker 1: the things he was talking about was the linebackers. Not 950 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,280 Speaker 1: necessarily he said, you know that that style that Dante 951 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:25,399 Speaker 1: high Tower, Brandon Spike's kind of profile is really sort 952 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 1: of on the back burner in the league. And he 953 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 1: thinks that the way that that it's going, you know, 954 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 1: you have the extra safeties to sort of fill that 955 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: that kind of role. And you know that's I think 956 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 1: what he's expecting. The Patriots to do less so than 957 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 1: the Ouches and the Jennings and the perkins Is of 958 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 1: the world. I think he's pointing to Pepper's Dugger Phillips 959 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: and you know, some combination of that sort of rotating around. 960 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 1: You know, he also talked about mac Wilson, But I 961 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's it's not the dumbest thing I've heard. 962 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 1: It's a it's a chance that it could get down 963 00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 1: that way. Now, well, look at what they do, not 964 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: what they say. And they didn't take anybody in the 965 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 1: front seven. And I think I'm going to predict. I 966 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 1: bet they sign like a Trey Flowers or a veteran 967 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: edge guy. Now they still I think, I think that's 968 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: got to be in the cards. And then I think 969 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: Paul's right, like we're gonna roll the dice with this 970 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,879 Speaker 1: line group and all that. That's fine, but there's just edge. 971 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 1: Who's who's playing on the edge of the defense. That's 972 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,399 Speaker 1: that's my concern. And you know, it just the same. 973 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: It's the same group up front. It's the same group 974 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 1: up front the end of the last year. And I 975 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: think if you want to try to cover up for 976 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 1: a secondary that you really didn't address, then you might 977 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: want to try to get some pressure on the passer. 978 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: And Mike has been talking about this. Who else besides 979 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: Judah yep? You know, where do you get that pressure? 980 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 1: Where do you get an edge guy? You know? And 981 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 1: I'll due respect to Tray Flowers, He's not really that guy, no, 982 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: but it would at least some it would be a 983 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 1: guy that I feel like, goold, oh no, he I 984 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 1: think I think he'd be he'd be a starter, but 985 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: I mean I just don't. I don't look at him 986 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 1: as like a pure pass rusher, no impact the pocket. 987 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 1: But hey, I'll just take somebody who can at least 988 00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: stop the run too, because that, I mean, that might 989 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: almost be the bigger concerns because I'm happy to stick 990 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: oocha out there, and you know, one third down, Ronnie Perkins, 991 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got to give you something at some point, 992 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: so you know, at least on third downs or you know, 993 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: pure passing downs. I feel like you have some guys 994 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,800 Speaker 1: you can throw out there to try to get some pressure. 995 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: But you know, it's just the down to down tough guys. 996 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 1: It's it's it's hard to see a three down lineup. 997 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: It feels like we're kind of heading towards It's gonna 998 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: be like mass changes on the field depending on what 999 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: the situation is. Which haven't you know, produced great results lately? 1000 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: This thought to be interesting. Eldred's in North Carolina. What's up? 1001 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 1: Here's the true lip mission? Yeah, I know, I know. 1002 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,280 Speaker 1: I've been waiting. I've been waiting three days for this call, Eldred. 1003 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: I've been waiting for I've been waiting for you. We 1004 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: were talking about you on the draft show. We want 1005 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: to there. It is like I said before, mister Kraft, 1006 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: you don't have to pay let me draft one damn year. 1007 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: One year. You ain't gotta pay one year because I 1008 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: know we need a guard ten receiver. Stand it. But 1009 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, oh, I can't get one in fourth, 1010 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 1: fifth round. You know, you hit McCrary head, Gordonston, I 1011 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: did unique cornerback help. But you get five eighty five 1012 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 1: nine guys in the sixth round that can run. But 1013 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 1: I can't see them covering six one, six two receivers 1014 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: or sixty three they might be. They might can run 1015 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: with him, but they can't jump with him, you know, 1016 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 1: So I just can't understand that. Thorton, Yes, I didn't 1017 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 1: like that pick at all. Oh, come on, why he's 1018 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: your guy, he's one of your guys. Yeah, he's six 1019 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: two with speed, but he can't get off pressed. I 1020 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 1: watch college football. I am a Patriot, Flay, I am 1021 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 1: a Patriot Fay by heart. But I watched football college 1022 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 1: and pro and I'm like Durham. We can't get nobody 1023 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: like that. We can't, you know, And I'm just frustrated, 1024 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 1: Like it's not been first rates for years because you know, 1025 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 1: I've been calling Bill out for years on GM, you know, 1026 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 1: just some thing. But last year was a better draft 1027 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 1: than this year. I know. If he could did last 1028 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: yea all over again, I'd be I'd be giving him all. 1029 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: But I keep in a crown. They go king Bill, 1030 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 1: But you didn't do that this year. Yeah, you don't see. 1031 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean like, if if Thornton can play, if Strange 1032 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 1: can play, and one of the cornerbacks can play, it's 1033 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,240 Speaker 1: a good draft, okay, Fred, Yeah, wouldn't you rather half 1034 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: Booth or the Clary in the first round? Listen to No, 1035 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: definitely short too, but you could run. But like I said, 1036 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 1: I just have Look, I'm on record, I want a defense, 1037 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, early and often. Yeah, well that's what I'm saying. 1038 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: You know, but you got a guard right if you 1039 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,919 Speaker 1: could have gotten the third fourth round, Because, like I said, 1040 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,319 Speaker 1: I watched draft boards too. I said, I'm all right, 1041 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: sports fan all a round, I'm just not well whatever whatever, No, 1042 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,320 Speaker 1: I watch all that, and Paul, you're right, SEC and 1043 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: ACC is a whole lot better than top Big ten 1044 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: and twelve because they're better competition and they're playing simber 1045 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,360 Speaker 1: like BRO. So I know you can't keep going to 1046 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: the well out of all the time. But some of 1047 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 1: those players, you know that was there, you just didn't 1048 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 1: get them. Yeah, you just didn't get them. Yeah, you 1049 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,880 Speaker 1: know you picked somebody there what you think your boy is? 1050 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: And I said, I would look at the epool because 1051 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,399 Speaker 1: he needed to go back find with somebody else bool 1052 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 1: and watch them. I think it would be so fascinating 1053 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: to really know what's going on and what they're saying 1054 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: and why they do what they do. Well. I like, 1055 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 1: I think to Eldrid's point, thanks Eldred, those four receivers 1056 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,799 Speaker 1: that went right after Thornton. You know, I think you 1057 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: know a lot of people were in love with sky More. Okay, 1058 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: I think he's good I wasn't one of the ones 1059 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,760 Speaker 1: that was in love with him. I did like Pickens, 1060 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 1: so I liked more. I liked Pickens. I didn't like 1061 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 1: Fred's guy, who I think was one of those guys, 1062 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,920 Speaker 1: Alec Pierce. Yeah, I like him. I didn't like him 1063 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: as much as Fred does. M But that's that's the 1064 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 1: referendum you're gonna be. You know, in two years, you're 1065 00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 1: gonna look at those guys and if that's McLaurin, Jay 1066 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 1: Brown and Deebo, Samuel and you, a guy is another 1067 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 1: nikkil Harry, only all be in a much different style. 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I 1221 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 1: wasn't even coming here on a thirty visit initially, and 1222 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 1: I was on my way to another team. I won't 1223 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,200 Speaker 1: say the name of the team, but it's a huge rival. 1224 01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,440 Speaker 1: They were Green. But I was on the way. I 1225 01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 1: was on the way rhymes of mets. I was on 1226 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,680 Speaker 1: the way out there, and the Patriots called and said, hey, 1227 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, Kenny swing through here before, you know, just 1228 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,800 Speaker 1: real quick, before he goes in New York. And I 1229 01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 1: ended up coming here, spending a lot of time with 1230 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia and Dean Pas at the time, and then 1231 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 1: I was gone And it was just that quick, you know, 1232 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 1: it was that quick and I went to New York 1233 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 1: and the rest was history. That was the only thing 1234 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 1: because when I went at the Combine, this is the weirdest, 1235 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 1: weirdest Combine interview for me that I had. I had 1236 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,120 Speaker 1: a lot of them as well, coming out as an underclassman. 1237 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 1: But I went in the room and you know, everyone's 1238 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 1: in there. Bill wasn't in there, I don't believe, but 1239 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 1: no one said anything. So I go in the room. 1240 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 1: Remember how you know the interview process works at the Combine, Well, 1241 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 1: I've heard a little bit about it. Like that, you 1242 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 1: know there's a blowcorn go dropping the hallway to a 1243 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 1: mad dash with everybody that's going to everybody's room, that's right. 1244 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 1: And you get in there and there's a clock. You're 1245 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,560 Speaker 1: on the clock on the clock, that's right. And so 1246 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,440 Speaker 1: I go. I go into the Patriots. So you know 1247 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,920 Speaker 1: this is right before, this is right after the Giants 1248 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 1: just won the Super Bowl. So I go. I visit 1249 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,600 Speaker 1: with the Giants. They're having a party because they knew 1250 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,560 Speaker 1: they weren't supposed to win that game either, right, So 1251 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 1: like I go in their room and everyone's like dancing, 1252 01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,440 Speaker 1: like a whole bunch of laughing and things like that. 1253 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,919 Speaker 1: And then I go to the Patriots room and it's 1254 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 1: like stone cold, like silence for two minutes. Now, if 1255 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,760 Speaker 1: you ever, if you ever, just like set your clock 1256 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,160 Speaker 1: to two minutes and don't say a word. It is 1257 01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 1: a long time. It should comfortable. Or do a plank, 1258 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 1: do a plank for two minutes, like it is a 1259 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,200 Speaker 1: very long time. Yeah, and no one, like you said, 1260 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 1: we're on the clock. So I'm sitting there like I 1261 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 1: just introduced myself and then no one asked me any questions, 1262 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: and so I'm like, all right, this is kind of weird. 1263 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,479 Speaker 1: And then finally we got into football. But I didn't 1264 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 1: know if they were trying to figure out, like, you know, 1265 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,520 Speaker 1: what I was thinking, or you know, see how I 1266 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 1: dealt with uncomfortable situations. But that I mean, I really 1267 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,760 Speaker 1: didn't have like, all right, the Patriots are really looking 1268 01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 1: at me. I thought I was going to go to 1269 01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 1: Denver Detroit, you know, the teams like that. So all right, 1270 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 1: that's a little snippet of Patch from the past, the 1271 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 1: celebrated podcast series with Gerard Mayo and uh, you know 1272 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 1: you heard a little bit something behind the scenes. No 1273 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 1: one improved. Yeah, a PRIB with Paul P. P Parillo. 1274 01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,240 Speaker 1: But you'll find out the origin of Girard Belichick, his 1275 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:05,600 Speaker 1: unusual role, and how he handled his rookie season, seventh 1276 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,120 Speaker 1: time captain, thoughts on leadership, and his frustrations on the 1277 01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,800 Speaker 1: loss in Super Bowl forty six. Oh I want to 1278 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,440 Speaker 1: hear that part. Yeah, well so, yeah, that's a that's 1279 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 1: a great series because it's an expanded interview. It's not 1280 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 1: like ten minutes, you know, you get like forty five 1281 01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 1: minutes to an hour sometimes with the player. And he 1282 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 1: was good, he did a good They open up. Yeah, 1283 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,360 Speaker 1: nothing on the modern current situation, just all his past 1284 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 1: and everything. Um yeah, mostly on his past. It's not 1285 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,400 Speaker 1: Pats from the present, right in the past. Thanks thanks Eric. Yeah, 1286 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 1: he was one that I feel like was tipped a 1287 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,120 Speaker 1: little bit before they selected him, Like all of a sudden, 1288 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 1: I remember somebody being like, keep an eye on the Patriots, 1289 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,919 Speaker 1: Jerod Mayo. Guess who had Guess who had it? Charlie Castle, 1290 01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 1: Charlie Cass. Yeah, I thought that's who it was. It 1291 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,680 Speaker 1: was more wrong than Charlie Castle. And that's wait, that's 1292 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,240 Speaker 1: what Matt and I said. That's not that time. He 1293 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,840 Speaker 1: was right, not that time. Yeah, now he was there 1294 01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,440 Speaker 1: was a right, right edition at the right time, and 1295 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 1: I mean Gerard Mayo. Um, he was a solid, solid player, 1296 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,160 Speaker 1: and the problem was the knee. And I remember he 1297 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 1: was on a roll. I thought he was playing his 1298 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 1: best football and it was in Buffalo and he he 1299 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 1: stoned a guy and his knee just gave out, and 1300 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 1: like that was it. I had almost forgotten he was 1301 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,440 Speaker 1: on the team in twenty fourteen, that he was initially 1302 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, part of the mix with with those guys 1303 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 1: that was I don't know, I just I mean he 1304 01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,720 Speaker 1: had I forget was that one of the back to 1305 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 1: back years where he had got injured in Week six 1306 01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 1: and was kind of done for the rest of the year. 1307 01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 1: One year was like a he got hurt a couple 1308 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,960 Speaker 1: of years or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I forgot 1309 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 1: what it was the next year, right, and he talked 1310 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,720 Speaker 1: about it because it was a little, uh, you know, bittersweet. 1311 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 1: I think it was the way Matt put it to him, 1312 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 1: and it was now he was a big part of that, 1313 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 1: like he I don't know if you guys remember, but 1314 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,760 Speaker 1: he would travel when he was hurt, um, and he 1315 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,640 Speaker 1: was in the meetings and like you know, you could 1316 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 1: clearly see where the the the origin of his coaching 1317 01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 1: career took place right there, Billy Bill. Yeah, and Bill 1318 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,640 Speaker 1: wanted that that was why they called him Gerard Belichick, 1319 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 1: right right right? All right, So let's patch from the past. 1320 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,520 Speaker 1: Check that out that podcast you've had, I don't know, 1321 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,640 Speaker 1: like over twenty now, I think, um with four thirty 1322 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 1: Wow yeah, um former Patriots? Good stuff, good stuff. Um. 1323 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to the callers in emailers 1324 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,719 Speaker 1: eight five five past five hundred disease take a hotline 1325 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,000 Speaker 1: web radio at Patriots dot com is the email address. 1326 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 1: Patty and agawams on the line. What's up, Patty tub gentlemen, Hey, hey, 1327 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,679 Speaker 1: so do stole a little bit of my thunder bringing 1328 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,080 Speaker 1: up trade bout. I was gonna ask if you guys 1329 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 1: thought that they wouldn't realistically take a flyer on him. 1330 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,719 Speaker 1: But I think we do need another guy because let's 1331 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,760 Speaker 1: just say, best case scenario, Ronnie Perkin works out and 1332 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:54,639 Speaker 1: he's a good player. Really behind him, dudon in in Barnmor, 1333 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,000 Speaker 1: who do you have that can go after the passer? 1334 01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we got honestly no depth as far as 1335 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,559 Speaker 1: guys that can get after the quarterback. Dah I mean, 1336 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,880 Speaker 1: you're you're putting it all on Perkins, Uche and Judeon 1337 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,720 Speaker 1: and Barmore, right now. I mean, that's that's that's it, 1338 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's my biggest concern of the team. 1339 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,240 Speaker 1: I think they've I mean, and I think when you 1340 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 1: just throw out draft value and all that stuff, you 1341 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,559 Speaker 1: look at the offense. They've added a lot of pieces 1342 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,160 Speaker 1: to the offense. I think they needed to add and 1343 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,720 Speaker 1: I think that they'll they should, they should improve around Mac. 1344 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 1: I think they've given him stuff. But it's another story 1345 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:25,720 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball and what the 1346 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,200 Speaker 1: approaches and you talk about Gerameo, Steve Belichick. I think 1347 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,040 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on those guys to sort out 1348 01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 1: these pieces and put together a defense that you know, 1349 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,559 Speaker 1: can improve on what we saw from them last time. 1350 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:42,639 Speaker 1: Thanks Patty. Um Let's go to Rashad in Baltimore. What's up, Rashad? Hey? 1351 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:47,040 Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? Hey? Um E see, I guess 1352 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,639 Speaker 1: I can. I guess I can talk about the draft. 1353 01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 1: That's really that's really I guess the main thing. My 1354 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 1: main thing is it is not is not the it's 1355 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,360 Speaker 1: not the player you pick, it's just where you pick them. 1356 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,519 Speaker 1: In the value. That's that's thing like and it is 1357 01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna be mad at 1358 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:07,519 Speaker 1: cold tra like the like the my main like the 1359 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,519 Speaker 1: one thing I will say about Cold Strings from a 1360 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 1: fan point, I'll buy his jersey if he has that. 1361 01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:17,720 Speaker 1: I'm a sixty nine because that's like the best thing 1362 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:22,840 Speaker 1: of the draft. But but but Markets, I like the 1363 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,080 Speaker 1: Market Jones and I like the I like the Markets 1364 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 1: Jones pick just because I mean, if he can help 1365 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,519 Speaker 1: from a special team standpoint and defensive standpoint, that's a 1366 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,880 Speaker 1: double plus. And I know that's something that Bill would 1367 01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,400 Speaker 1: like so and he might be able to get in 1368 01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:40,280 Speaker 1: some offensive steps too, So I'm like, you know, I 1369 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,679 Speaker 1: like that pick. I like I like the late offensive 1370 01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,960 Speaker 1: line pick. I think chasing Chasing Hines. I'm thinking of 1371 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,080 Speaker 1: all the linement that we got, he probably gonna be 1372 01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 1: the one that was going to be the best one. 1373 01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 1: It's gonna beat out Strange probably. Yeah. All right, Rachean, 1374 01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,120 Speaker 1: thanks for the call. Let's go to us being Fresno. 1375 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:04,120 Speaker 1: What's up, Speed, great job on the draft. Stows as always, guys, 1376 01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 1: Um you like you make life more fun. I especially 1377 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:12,120 Speaker 1: enjoy apoplectic Mike like bemoaning how deeply misunderstood he is. 1378 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:19,439 Speaker 1: Good business. Um I got, I got a question from 1379 01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,600 Speaker 1: Mike and a question for Paul. From from Mike, it 1380 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,559 Speaker 1: sounds like you begun your a scent of Mount Thornton. 1381 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,840 Speaker 1: Um like, is that like maybe what Thornton's feeling could 1382 01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,960 Speaker 1: be a Brandon Cook type receiver. Yeah? Yeah, I mean 1383 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,120 Speaker 1: I think they're different body types, for sure. I mean 1384 01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,360 Speaker 1: Thornton's you know, close to six three m. But but 1385 01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,280 Speaker 1: I think that's the role. It's it's outside receiver, you know, 1386 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,360 Speaker 1: and that would be stretched a home run. Have you 1387 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 1: got Cooks a guy with that production? Oh, for sure 1388 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:50,599 Speaker 1: Thornton ends up being Cooks. Bill was right. Yeah, But 1389 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,519 Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I got reasonable to hope for. 1390 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,639 Speaker 1: I don't think, I don't know. I mean, I'm trying 1391 01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,439 Speaker 1: not to set expectations. All I know is that the 1392 01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 1: guy can fly, and that's something that's gonna show up 1393 01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,080 Speaker 1: on the field day one, and I just think that's 1394 01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 1: something new and exciting to see. Don't forget the drawing. 1395 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,559 Speaker 1: A defensive passive appearance is as good as a catch. 1396 01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 1: I know. Oh believe I know that one boy. Yeah, 1397 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:16,000 Speaker 1: that's the Brandon Cook's way. That's right. Hey, hey, paul Um, 1398 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,240 Speaker 1: you know when that guy Manny called and he forced 1399 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 1: me to defend how you talking about Bill the mediocre comment? Yeah, 1400 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,680 Speaker 1: obviously you're firmly on the record saying that Bill is 1401 01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 1: the best ever. It was just it was in your 1402 01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,599 Speaker 1: response to Manny. It was there was this interesting point 1403 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 1: you brought up with Andy Reid that got me thinking, 1404 01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,960 Speaker 1: where it's like you would kind of say, maybe Andy Reid, 1405 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,600 Speaker 1: you should you could, you could say he's got the 1406 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,160 Speaker 1: edge over Bill without a great quarterback, but maybe the 1407 01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,400 Speaker 1: reverse Bill being better with a great quarterback again. Yeah, 1408 01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,160 Speaker 1: And I thought that was really it was really it 1409 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,040 Speaker 1: was a little bit dizzying at the time. So I 1410 01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,080 Speaker 1: kind of sympathized with why many seemed a little bit 1411 01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,880 Speaker 1: thumped on the line. But but I kind of I 1412 01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,360 Speaker 1: just kind of wonder, in the in a vacuum, is 1413 01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,760 Speaker 1: a better coach one who makes it work better without? Yeah, 1414 01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,360 Speaker 1: and that I wasn't making an argument for or against 1415 01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:09,639 Speaker 1: Bill or Andy Reid specifically. I was first and foremost 1416 01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,200 Speaker 1: I would saying, like I had never said that Bill 1417 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,880 Speaker 1: is a mediocre coach, like flat out he is just 1418 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,599 Speaker 1: he is just a mediocre coach. I'm sorry. The day 1419 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,800 Speaker 1: before you said Bill's record without Brady with media, you 1420 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:25,599 Speaker 1: didn't correct coaching correct and you also, although later Paul 1421 01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,160 Speaker 1: you did kind of snarkily called Bill competent because he's 1422 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:34,559 Speaker 1: eight games underive chuckle, you know, without without Brady. Yes, like, 1423 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,559 Speaker 1: I mean that those are the numbered I mean, that's 1424 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,960 Speaker 1: that's what the facts say. Now, I also have been 1425 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,400 Speaker 1: a part. I mean, I can't really comment being up 1426 01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,120 Speaker 1: close in Cleveland, but I've been a part of everything 1427 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,360 Speaker 1: he's done as a Patriots coach, and I would say 1428 01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:50,280 Speaker 1: that for the most part, I think they've won more 1429 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:55,720 Speaker 1: games than their talent really shouldn't, you know, suggested without Brady. 1430 01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,479 Speaker 1: You know, so, I think that they're doing well to 1431 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:03,240 Speaker 1: be sort of middling based on the talents in twenty twenty, 1432 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,519 Speaker 1: like seven and nine based on the talent in twenty 1433 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,400 Speaker 1: twenty um the only the Castle year they were stacked 1434 01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,479 Speaker 1: that I mean, that was a loaded roster, So like 1435 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:16,360 Speaker 1: that to me. But yeah, three and one without Brady 1436 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 1: in sixteen, ten and seven last year with Mack, Like, 1437 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not telling you that he had his 1438 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,160 Speaker 1: best year of coaching, but I think it's pretty apparent 1439 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,680 Speaker 1: that he's a good coach, you know. I mean I 1440 01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,439 Speaker 1: think I don't know if yeah, I don't know if 1441 01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,280 Speaker 1: I should call him the greatest ever now because you 1442 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,680 Speaker 1: got me thinking about Reid in a vacuum, you know, 1443 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 1: without the what he's doing with mccab or without Smith. Yeah, 1444 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,760 Speaker 1: but how many times have we looked at read just 1445 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,120 Speaker 1: before my home and said, oh, they should have won 1446 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:49,639 Speaker 1: that game, and he you know, two minute two minute coaching? 1447 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 1: That was this whole thing. Can you think of one? 1448 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:57,519 Speaker 1: I remember many times people saying that, you know, yeah, 1449 01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,759 Speaker 1: I don't remember a game, but that's just all right, thanks. 1450 01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,360 Speaker 1: I think clark management is one of his weaknesses, without question. 1451 01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,559 Speaker 1: But I can't think of like he's got the better 1452 01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,960 Speaker 1: team and he lost because he couldn't manage the clock. 1453 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,599 Speaker 1: I think clock management is an issue for for Randy Reid. 1454 01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,719 Speaker 1: I think it's an an issue for the Patriots. Quite frankly, 1455 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,880 Speaker 1: there was that Kansas City game, remember when Peterson was 1456 01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:27,280 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, right, and Peterson said was it was yeah, yeah, 1457 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,280 Speaker 1: And he said we didn't want to get the ball 1458 01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,640 Speaker 1: back to Brady, which was by far and away the 1459 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,840 Speaker 1: dumbest thing I've ever heard of coach say after a game. 1460 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:39,400 Speaker 1: I remember that playoff game here the Patriots won twenty 1461 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 1: seven twenty in a divisional round fifteen ishues, somewhere in 1462 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:51,040 Speaker 1: that in that general area, and UM, the Chiefs went 1463 01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,000 Speaker 1: on a drive with about eight minutes to go, and 1464 01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:58,080 Speaker 1: they weren't hurrying. They weren't like nowhere out of bounds. 1465 01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,519 Speaker 1: There was no urgency at all. And they scored but 1466 01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,920 Speaker 1: kind of left themselves in a situation where everything had 1467 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 1: to go perfect for them in order for them to 1468 01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,320 Speaker 1: have a chance to come back. And he said that 1469 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:12,760 Speaker 1: we didn't want to give Brady the ball back. You 1470 01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:18,840 Speaker 1: were down fourteen guy, hot tub Bob writes in UM 1471 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,840 Speaker 1: in twenty one years, this is the first Patriots theme 1472 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:25,040 Speaker 1: based draft. The front office went all Al Davis and 1473 01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:28,000 Speaker 1: just went with speed, baby. But instead of getting the 1474 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,639 Speaker 1: fastest safety, linebacker or cornerback, we got the fastest guard. 1475 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,320 Speaker 1: The fastest guard. Have you ever watched a game and said, WHOA, 1476 01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,000 Speaker 1: look at that lightning quick guard that s SOB can 1477 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,200 Speaker 1: really move. Given the amount of value we surrendered in 1478 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,479 Speaker 1: this theme draft, the only way we're pulling this draft 1479 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,599 Speaker 1: into the wind column is one Cole Strange is athletic 1480 01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,920 Speaker 1: enough to move to tackle and be good at that. 1481 01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:54,760 Speaker 1: Two Thornton is at minimum a wide receiver. Two three. 1482 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,640 Speaker 1: One of these two corners hits. In four, one of 1483 01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:01,720 Speaker 1: these late round guys not named Zappy becomes a meaningful contributor. 1484 01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 1: Why why does it have to be not named Zappy? 1485 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:08,719 Speaker 1: What if he hits, then then you gotta gold mine 1486 01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,520 Speaker 1: on you, right, thanks for being the best Patriots podcast 1487 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:16,280 Speaker 1: in history. Well, I gotta I gotta hypothetical. I just hypothetical. 1488 01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:18,280 Speaker 1: It's almost like a game. You know how much I 1489 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,400 Speaker 1: like games. What if Cole Strange is a left tackle? 1490 01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,519 Speaker 1: What if and when is the left guard? I don't 1491 01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,479 Speaker 1: care about. I heard I heard a guy call in 1492 01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,000 Speaker 1: last week saying He's gonna play right tackle, Trent Brown's 1493 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,719 Speaker 1: gonna play left tackle, and Win's gonna move into guard. 1494 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,559 Speaker 1: I mean to which Now I really despise the whole thing. 1495 01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,200 Speaker 1: So now you're gonna play a guy in a position 1496 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:43,479 Speaker 1: he's never played before. When no, Cole Cole, Yeah, it 1497 01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,760 Speaker 1: would change, It would change I think some of the 1498 01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,000 Speaker 1: If he turns out to be a really good tackle, 1499 01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:53,000 Speaker 1: it would definitely change my perspective. I mean, I'm I'm 1500 01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,559 Speaker 1: not stupid, No, I mean, and he hasn't done it, 1501 01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,759 Speaker 1: and there's no reason to really think that he will. 1502 01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:02,200 Speaker 1: But it's just interesting of It's it's like cornerback to safety. 1503 01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,280 Speaker 1: You see that, but you don't see a lot of 1504 01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,000 Speaker 1: safeties go to cornerback. It's the same with garden tackle 1505 01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,000 Speaker 1: and that's the opposite of Mankins. But I mean not 1506 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,200 Speaker 1: only that he never played it right, like it'd be 1507 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,000 Speaker 1: one like Logan. Mankins played tackle in college and a 1508 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,439 Speaker 1: lot of people thought he would be a guard in 1509 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,920 Speaker 1: the pros. So if he wound up playing guarden for 1510 01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,759 Speaker 1: a couple of years and then kicked back out to tackle, 1511 01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 1: that happens. This guy never played tackle before he played 1512 01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,360 Speaker 1: one game at tackle. Yeah. But if if Mike's hypothetical 1513 01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,360 Speaker 1: proves correct and he turns out to be a really 1514 01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,559 Speaker 1: good and I'm not even saying like a like an 1515 01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:38,120 Speaker 1: All Pro, just a really good starting caliber tackle, yeah, 1516 01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,479 Speaker 1: I changed my opinion on the pick. I means something 1517 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,719 Speaker 1: that if Bill did this with that thought in mind, 1518 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,240 Speaker 1: so we see it like, come come the summer, he's 1519 01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,160 Speaker 1: playing tackle. Yeah, I think I'll think differently about the 1520 01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:51,880 Speaker 1: pick because I still think I mean as much as 1521 01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean Stuber for a seventh rounder I think has 1522 01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,200 Speaker 1: some upside, but there's just not I don't really love 1523 01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,320 Speaker 1: Justin harn as a left tackle. I think ends at 1524 01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,200 Speaker 1: the end of his deal. I think that that's still 1525 01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,000 Speaker 1: a big position. I mean, we'll have to keep an 1526 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:05,960 Speaker 1: eye on it. I mean even in the spring with 1527 01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,320 Speaker 1: the OTAs in mini camp. You know, often they start 1528 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,960 Speaker 1: trying guys and I know there's no hitting, but just 1529 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,800 Speaker 1: to see how they look in the position, and if 1530 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,719 Speaker 1: we see him out there, then well, well, you know, okay, 1531 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,720 Speaker 1: they're thinking that too. I mean, I don't think his 1532 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:23,680 Speaker 1: size is ideal. He's six o four seven three h 1533 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:28,040 Speaker 1: seven yea almost six five, but he's still but he's 1534 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,559 Speaker 1: still a couple inches bigger than Isaiah win Is. And 1535 01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,400 Speaker 1: his athleticism would seem like even if his size was 1536 01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,479 Speaker 1: a detriment to saying you could play tackle, I think 1537 01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:40,080 Speaker 1: athletically you could say he potentially could handle being on 1538 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,120 Speaker 1: that side getting out. I mean, that's what you know 1539 01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:46,519 Speaker 1: you need as a hold on hope. Please, I wouldn't please. 1540 01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:48,600 Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me because I wouldn't know 1541 01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,479 Speaker 1: the thirty three I wouldn't know the proper wings kind 1542 01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,840 Speaker 1: of the thirty four plus you're you're big, so he's 1543 01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:55,840 Speaker 1: thirty three. It's not not ideal, but I'm sure that 1544 01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,040 Speaker 1: Isaiah win. But I think Mike brings up an interesting 1545 01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:01,160 Speaker 1: point if that's there, if that's Bill's thought process, like this, 1546 01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,479 Speaker 1: this kid can play tackle? Yeah, no, he has to 1547 01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:09,000 Speaker 1: be right right. I heard it here first, Okay, Gary 1548 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,840 Speaker 1: and east Han over to Jersey. I just hope and pray. 1549 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,640 Speaker 1: I don't see Jermaine Johnson sacking Matt Jones twice a 1550 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,360 Speaker 1: year for the next decade. I thought he'd be perfect 1551 01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,599 Speaker 1: pick at number twenty one. My trust in Bill's faith 1552 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,400 Speaker 1: is taking a hit with this draft. Thanks for the 1553 01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:26,479 Speaker 1: great shows. Do you think if they took Jimmy Johnson 1554 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:27,960 Speaker 1: people would have said, well, they must not have liked 1555 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:29,680 Speaker 1: them that much because they didn't trade up to get him. 1556 01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:34,400 Speaker 1: You see, it's it's it's really not he doesn't do it. 1557 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,360 Speaker 1: It's just not him. He's too happy. Yeah, this is 1558 01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,040 Speaker 1: not a good look. I can't. I can't. I throw 1559 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,680 Speaker 1: the grenade and then I laugh and let me ask you, 1560 01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:48,360 Speaker 1: this isn't one I did play, but you because you 1561 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,040 Speaker 1: really wanted an edge guy. Yeah, you'd feel better if 1562 01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:53,200 Speaker 1: I took Johnson, And I know that you you're not 1563 01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,120 Speaker 1: in love with a strange pick, so I'm not not 1564 01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,200 Speaker 1: saying yeah, no, I would. It would have made It 1565 01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:58,519 Speaker 1: would have made a lot of sense to me, because 1566 01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,800 Speaker 1: I think he has, you know, three down potential off 1567 01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:02,680 Speaker 1: the edge. I think it would make I think it 1568 01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,240 Speaker 1: would make sense. I would have been happy. Philippe is 1569 01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,880 Speaker 1: in Rio de Janeiro. I'm very disappointed with our draft 1570 01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,599 Speaker 1: and would like your opinion on a few things. One, 1571 01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,240 Speaker 1: how much stock do you put on the overdraft in 1572 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,840 Speaker 1: reach ideas? Personally, I think there is merit in it 1573 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,680 Speaker 1: and that we could have had a better draft with 1574 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,800 Speaker 1: our draft capital. The GM's job, in my opinion, is 1575 01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,120 Speaker 1: not only to pick the best player available, but to 1576 01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:29,479 Speaker 1: maximize talent acquisition. Two do you agree that Bill put 1577 01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,400 Speaker 1: a target on his back after this very very unusual, 1578 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:35,960 Speaker 1: to say the least draft. And Three, to address Mike's point, 1579 01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,080 Speaker 1: I don't think fans were necessarily after speed wide receiver. 1580 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,280 Speaker 1: We just want good all around receivers. Apparently Thornton is 1581 01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,160 Speaker 1: yet another role player. I hope I'm wrong, but this 1582 01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,920 Speaker 1: is how I see it. Yeah, I just hope that. 1583 01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean, we can't do anything about it. Now they 1584 01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,040 Speaker 1: picked who they picked, Let's see what they do. We 1585 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,479 Speaker 1: couldn't do anything about it, worried. I know we couldn't. 1586 01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,719 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying like, yeah, you could talk about 1587 01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,160 Speaker 1: it all you wanted before. Now we know who they've got. 1588 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,439 Speaker 1: Let's see how they do when when they're on the field. 1589 01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:06,400 Speaker 1: And that's what you talk about now, because you spend 1590 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,640 Speaker 1: all this last two months looking at draft boards and 1591 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,200 Speaker 1: starting to feel like you know how things should line up. 1592 01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,120 Speaker 1: You're all right, we're gonna have to be that mad 1593 01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:20,720 Speaker 1: about it. Fred, excuse me, Fred, But but I think 1594 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,639 Speaker 1: you get to the point though, where you just start 1595 01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:27,200 Speaker 1: that we just want players, Like did they get players? 1596 01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,360 Speaker 1: What can they do now that they here? What? What 1597 01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,559 Speaker 1: can they do? I know it's a cliche Bill throws 1598 01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:32,960 Speaker 1: around there, it's not how you got here, it's what 1599 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,639 Speaker 1: you do once you get here. But in reality, that's 1600 01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,720 Speaker 1: that's what it is. What can these guys do now 1601 01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:39,479 Speaker 1: that they here? I mean, there were plenty of guys 1602 01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:43,719 Speaker 1: who are undrafted who've become starters and important players. Malcolm 1603 01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:45,960 Speaker 1: Butler look made one of the greatest plays in history. 1604 01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:49,439 Speaker 1: Wasn't drafted. He made an opportunity for himself once he 1605 01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,880 Speaker 1: got out, Patricia, Let's see what Let's see what happens 1606 01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 1: with these guys. I mean, yeah, and how many he 1607 01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,479 Speaker 1: was crying over who they didn't pick now because it's 1608 01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:00,479 Speaker 1: too late for that all that, but that's the analysis. 1609 01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:02,840 Speaker 1: That's like, of course we're gonna cry over it if 1610 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,040 Speaker 1: it if it turns out that way. I still lament 1611 01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:08,439 Speaker 1: the fact that they didn't take a better receiver than Harry, right, yeah, 1612 01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,920 Speaker 1: Like I'm not going to stop, you know, I'm not 1613 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,960 Speaker 1: going to forget about that. As as Joe Fanum with 1614 01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:17,960 Speaker 1: the speed with receiver, I would agree that this style 1615 01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,800 Speaker 1: of receiver wasn't something that I think people were clamoring for. 1616 01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,600 Speaker 1: But they wanted speed in the slot. Everybody wanted a 1617 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:27,439 Speaker 1: slot receiver. And there was some dynamic ones in this draft. 1618 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,800 Speaker 1: You know, my guy Shakier, I you know, I liked 1619 01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,559 Speaker 1: in sky More a lot of people like I think 1620 01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,880 Speaker 1: the kid that Pittsburgh took later in the draft, I 1621 01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,000 Speaker 1: don't know how good he's gonna because he's kind of small, 1622 01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:42,840 Speaker 1: but that kid from it was a Calvin Watkins. Calvin Austin. 1623 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,960 Speaker 1: Calvin Austin from Memphis, right that kid, he's another one, 1624 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:48,960 Speaker 1: Kevin Kolber Pickton. So I'm going to give the benefit 1625 01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:52,200 Speaker 1: of the doubt. Like I think people were looking for 1626 01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:56,799 Speaker 1: a slot receiver. I wasn't necessarily enamored with every slot option, 1627 01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, it didn't have to be a slot guy 1628 01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,960 Speaker 1: for me. But to suggest that people weren't looking for 1629 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,320 Speaker 1: speed at wide receiver, I think I think people were 1630 01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,800 Speaker 1: looking for speed, Yeah don't you. Yeah, yeah, I do. 1631 01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:09,960 Speaker 1: And I mean and I think, and I was constantly 1632 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,920 Speaker 1: kind of questioned myself through the process of being like, 1633 01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:15,400 Speaker 1: am I just romanticizing Wes Welker and Julian Edelman and 1634 01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,519 Speaker 1: what they did and you know, trying to reinsert that. 1635 01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:19,840 Speaker 1: But I also think that you know, they don't have 1636 01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:21,679 Speaker 1: a lot of guys on a contract next year, so 1637 01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,439 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's still gonna be a need to 1638 01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,840 Speaker 1: get kind of a chain mover, depending on how they 1639 01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:28,920 Speaker 1: feel about Jacoby. But you know, you're kind of looking 1640 01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:32,200 Speaker 1: at Bourn and Thornton as being the two guys maybe 1641 01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,960 Speaker 1: Parker if if that deal sticks. So you know, I 1642 01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,559 Speaker 1: think that they're a little heavy on the outside down 1643 01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,320 Speaker 1: the field guys going forward, you know, not not against Bourne. 1644 01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:41,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Bourne can you know, it's a 1645 01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,120 Speaker 1: pretty good intermediate cond But you know, I still think 1646 01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,559 Speaker 1: it's it's I still think it's a long term need 1647 01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,559 Speaker 1: that they need to consider h Josh from Turners Falls. 1648 01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,680 Speaker 1: I know, trust me, I know I wanted Lloyd so 1649 01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,759 Speaker 1: bad and they obviously didn't. But trying to be hopeful 1650 01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:00,439 Speaker 1: about these picks, I'm actually really hopeful for Thornton. Watching 1651 01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:02,880 Speaker 1: him run as amazing, his forty yard dash looked like 1652 01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,439 Speaker 1: a guy who wasn't even trying as hard as I 1653 01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:11,120 Speaker 1: think guys that run trying. I think he gets good 1654 01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,919 Speaker 1: separation for a size. The cornerbacks look competitive, strongest, compelling. 1655 01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:18,400 Speaker 1: Eight touchdowns of fifty yards or more is impressive. Strange 1656 01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,439 Speaker 1: should start at guard, so let's see. I think they 1657 01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:24,160 Speaker 1: may have three or four guys who can contribute right away, 1658 01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,160 Speaker 1: and that's all I was hoping for. Who are the 1659 01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,880 Speaker 1: three or four guys that can contribute right away? Decide Strange, 1660 01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,840 Speaker 1: you have to ask him. Bill picked his guys where 1661 01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:35,760 Speaker 1: he wanted them. Hopefully he's right and the masses are mistaken. 1662 01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:40,120 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think realistically Thornton will be 1663 01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,360 Speaker 1: on this team this year? I think he's a he's 1664 01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:50,240 Speaker 1: like a receiver. Yeah. I mean, you know, if they 1665 01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:54,080 Speaker 1: have something in mind to move Agalore, which I don't 1666 01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,200 Speaker 1: think is going to be an easy transaction, then I 1667 01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:58,840 Speaker 1: think there's a chance for Thornton to be a part 1668 01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,200 Speaker 1: of this offense. Right now, I don't see really much 1669 01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:03,080 Speaker 1: of a possibility of him being part of the offense 1670 01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:06,960 Speaker 1: unless he's just so you know, damn fast. Yeah, and 1671 01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,640 Speaker 1: he is that damn fast. I just don't see a 1672 01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,800 Speaker 1: spot for him to play. Yeah, but I like's if 1673 01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:13,639 Speaker 1: he's that fast and he's getting open and making plays 1674 01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:15,320 Speaker 1: though I don't know about getting open if he if 1675 01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,200 Speaker 1: he jumps, But but I like what you said Paul 1676 01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,640 Speaker 1: and draft night of of you know, he'll be that 1677 01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,360 Speaker 1: Agilo role. Now. I know we've talked about maybe moving 1678 01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,360 Speaker 1: Aglow around a little bit more. He played a little 1679 01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,200 Speaker 1: more in the slot in Philadelphia, so you know, maybe 1680 01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:31,160 Speaker 1: maybe that does. I think he's not right, no, no, 1681 01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,439 Speaker 1: but but you know, in in little bits and pieces 1682 01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,840 Speaker 1: here and there, I think is that you you throw 1683 01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,040 Speaker 1: a you give him a shot every once in a while, 1684 01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,479 Speaker 1: and maybe he makes a play or two here or there. 1685 01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:45,400 Speaker 1: I can't see him catching thirty passes. I can't not 1686 01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:48,000 Speaker 1: unless there's a massive injuries than he has to get 1687 01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:51,280 Speaker 1: moved up. Yeah, that's a little bit of a projection. Yeah, 1688 01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,200 Speaker 1: I hear you. I mean I and I just have 1689 01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:56,720 Speaker 1: never you know, speaking to the point of this general player, like, 1690 01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,320 Speaker 1: I've never been enamored with the one trick kind of pony. 1691 01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,840 Speaker 1: Now I think that he can do some different things. 1692 01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,000 Speaker 1: But you know, just the Brandon Cooks of it all, 1693 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,240 Speaker 1: that's always been my I agree with you. I'm not 1694 01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,599 Speaker 1: a We just need a guy every time he's either 1695 01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,080 Speaker 1: running a go or a comeback. And you know, like, 1696 01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,720 Speaker 1: but Brandon Cooks could run crossers. He had a lot 1697 01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:18,400 Speaker 1: of deep ends in I think he's a much better profile. 1698 01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:20,840 Speaker 1: And this guy. The other thing with the slot guys too. 1699 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,360 Speaker 1: You know, we got a few of these in the 1700 01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:28,240 Speaker 1: mail bag, like Troy Brown, Wes Welker and Julian Edemand why, 1701 01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, you know, why why can't they get somebody? 1702 01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,679 Speaker 1: What what do you think of Troy Brown? All around? 1703 01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:38,120 Speaker 1: Think he was a pretty special player. Yeah, should think 1704 01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,320 Speaker 1: Welker was a special player. Yes, do you think Edelmand 1705 01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,840 Speaker 1: was a special player? So why are people so like 1706 01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,759 Speaker 1: confused as to why they can't just snap their fingers 1707 01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,080 Speaker 1: and get the next special guy. That's like what I 1708 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,280 Speaker 1: said is like I feel like I'm romanticizing that as 1709 01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:53,080 Speaker 1: like just the like a Keys were good, they were 1710 01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,559 Speaker 1: just really good. You can't just draft a small five 1711 01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:59,720 Speaker 1: eight white guy who's got a great three and believe me, 1712 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:05,840 Speaker 1: I have tried, oh yeah, and tried and tried those guys, Sea, 1713 01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:12,200 Speaker 1: Jeremy Eber Braxton's barrier. Didn't they have Jeremy at one point? 1714 01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,760 Speaker 1: Wasn't Jeremy Bloom on this team for a little while? 1715 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:17,400 Speaker 1: The skier? The skier, Yeah, I don't know. He might 1716 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,840 Speaker 1: have been. They've tried, Yeah he was. He was a 1717 01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:22,320 Speaker 1: skier who played football at Colorado. Let's get back to 1718 01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:27,600 Speaker 1: the phones. Uh, Sean Barry, Hey, Sean, it's John. How 1719 01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:31,400 Speaker 1: are you doing boys, John? Well, it's Sean. Yeah. We're 1720 01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:33,439 Speaker 1: looking at to getting a new producer. So don't worry 1721 01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:40,320 Speaker 1: that one happened. The hearing test, that's all. You know, 1722 01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,760 Speaker 1: a couple of things I want to point. Uh, you know, 1723 01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm taking a wait and see approach to this, like 1724 01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:49,599 Speaker 1: everybody else, I guest story. We don't really have much 1725 01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,040 Speaker 1: else to do, but one thing I did not get 1726 01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,640 Speaker 1: was a Jack Jones pick. I mean, he's gonna be 1727 01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:58,360 Speaker 1: twenty five years old, he's got a criminal background, he 1728 01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,280 Speaker 1: weighs one hundred and seventy five, and he saw a blaze. 1729 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:04,400 Speaker 1: He ran a four or five forty, So what was 1730 01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,360 Speaker 1: that all about it? I just don't get that. Pick. 1731 01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,599 Speaker 1: I kind of agree he's he's I mean, just to play. 1732 01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,280 Speaker 1: To tell you, what I think they saw on him 1733 01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:15,040 Speaker 1: was that he's really quick, really good on the ball, 1734 01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,840 Speaker 1: breaks on the ball, you know, aggressive sticks and the 1735 01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:19,880 Speaker 1: hip of guys. I mean, there's no question the size 1736 01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,360 Speaker 1: is an issue, absolutely, but that you know, when you 1737 01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,559 Speaker 1: see the good things from him, that's what it is. 1738 01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,240 Speaker 1: And I mean, has the athleticism to kind of mirror 1739 01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,360 Speaker 1: a man demand with guys. Well, maybe you know all 1740 01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,200 Speaker 1: those things you just mentioned, you know, having the run 1741 01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:36,240 Speaker 1: in with the law and academic problems USC and all that. 1742 01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:40,040 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the reason why he was available where he was, 1743 01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:43,000 Speaker 1: And maybe the Patriots are convinced, after talking to the 1744 01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:46,760 Speaker 1: guy and doing their research, that he's turned things around. He's, 1745 01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:49,559 Speaker 1: you know, understood where he went wrong, and now this 1746 01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:52,000 Speaker 1: is really important. He looks at it as a as 1747 01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:56,519 Speaker 1: a real opportunity and maybe he's maybe he's a guy 1748 01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,400 Speaker 1: that's actually better than where he was drafted. I don't 1749 01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,120 Speaker 1: think that's case. Yeah, I think it's like mcgron. I 1750 01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:06,120 Speaker 1: think mcgron was like a Day three guy before before 1751 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,439 Speaker 1: and after the ACL Do you have you have like 1752 01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:14,439 Speaker 1: the Bruge projection, because I think he was a late 1753 01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:18,160 Speaker 1: round projection. Yeah, but why because of his That's not 1754 01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:22,360 Speaker 1: about where they're gonna get drafted. They don't Brugal doesn't 1755 01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:26,679 Speaker 1: predict where they're going to get drafted, Okay, just his ability, right, 1756 01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:31,680 Speaker 1: Like it's seven, it's a grade seven, um, and I 1757 01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:35,120 Speaker 1: know there's no doubt that the grade is probably like 1758 01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:38,439 Speaker 1: tainted at least a little by the off field. I 1759 01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:40,560 Speaker 1: think there was some reports, I think Burt Brier was 1760 01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,280 Speaker 1: talking about this, that some teams had him completely off 1761 01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,519 Speaker 1: their board. Yeah, you know because of the the off 1762 01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:51,759 Speaker 1: field stuff. And as far as I know, like he 1763 01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,360 Speaker 1: he broke into a restaurant, it was like, you know, 1764 01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's a great guy that I'd 1765 01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:57,880 Speaker 1: like to have over for Sunday dinner, but like, I 1766 01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:01,559 Speaker 1: don't think there was any like do you eyes or battery? 1767 01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:04,920 Speaker 1: You know, domestic abuse with women or like those to me, 1768 01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, gun charges, those to me like the things 1769 01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:11,880 Speaker 1: that I would have. It sounds like he made a 1770 01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,960 Speaker 1: stupid mistake, like and I'm not stupid, ch and I'd 1771 01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,040 Speaker 1: be willing to give a guy another chance as long 1772 01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:20,919 Speaker 1: as that's the extent of his of his criminal background. 1773 01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,400 Speaker 1: If not, no violence. No, do you know why he 1774 01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:25,000 Speaker 1: was trying to break in the restaurant? I think they 1775 01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:29,280 Speaker 1: were robbing it. Yeah. Second pleaded guilty to a second 1776 01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:33,360 Speaker 1: degree misdemeanor charge of commercial burglary in October twenty eighteenth, 1777 01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:35,760 Speaker 1: serving forty five days of house arrest. I believe it 1778 01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,640 Speaker 1: was at a Panda Express. Oh man, you really have 1779 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,599 Speaker 1: to be hungry that orange chicken, though, I mean, that's 1780 01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:44,840 Speaker 1: good stuff. Hey, you know how much money those Panda 1781 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,000 Speaker 1: Expresses have? Oh it's crazy. Yeah, but they don't keep 1782 01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:51,400 Speaker 1: it in there, right, douce, No, there's money in more story. No, 1783 01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,800 Speaker 1: there there's more stories about it that Like he didn't 1784 01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:56,240 Speaker 1: get anything either, right, makes it even not even some 1785 01:31:56,280 --> 01:32:01,000 Speaker 1: orange chicken? Yeah, chicken laarrange. If you had a break 1786 01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,479 Speaker 1: into a restaurant for the food, what restaurant would you 1787 01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:05,960 Speaker 1: break into? That's a good question. I mean steak, probably 1788 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:07,680 Speaker 1: a steak like a big experience, but then you have 1789 01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:11,080 Speaker 1: to cook it, right, Yeah, one of the Italian places. 1790 01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:13,200 Speaker 1: If you're like really hungry and you had you had 1791 01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,160 Speaker 1: your choice of restaurants, you had to eat right there. 1792 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,720 Speaker 1: What what restaurant would you break it? Would what would 1793 01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:19,960 Speaker 1: you not have to cook it regardless of where you 1794 01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:24,080 Speaker 1: put in some place that I might have prem like 1795 01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:26,479 Speaker 1: a Delhi in the fridge, Like you go into a 1796 01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:28,920 Speaker 1: Delhi for you know, sliced meats and you just have 1797 01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:32,360 Speaker 1: to make your own cold cuts. Yeah, me and Paul 1798 01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:41,120 Speaker 1: would probably break into Jersey micut meat. Let's go, we're 1799 01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,280 Speaker 1: gonna get the super large though, We're gonna we're gonna 1800 01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:45,479 Speaker 1: we rearrange their menu so that we brough it in, 1801 01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,600 Speaker 1: like you need one that's in the middle. Or what 1802 01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,639 Speaker 1: about the largest too small? You're larger, you're your extra 1803 01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,000 Speaker 1: largest too big? They call the cops, somebody broke in. 1804 01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:57,080 Speaker 1: What'd they take? Nothing? Three? Re arrange the menu three 1805 01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,920 Speaker 1: three rolls. Eric breaks into a farm and it's like 1806 01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:03,280 Speaker 1: picking vegetables out of the ground. I got all your 1807 01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:07,920 Speaker 1: green beans. I don't like the healthy my favorite restaurant, 1808 01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:10,240 Speaker 1: like I have so many. I'm such a fat guy. 1809 01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:15,200 Speaker 1: I yeah, somewhere in the north end. Topic for another show, 1810 01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:19,759 Speaker 1: Capital Grill. Yeah, breakfast. Let's go to William and philam. 1811 01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:25,559 Speaker 1: What's up? William? What's up? Man? How are you doing good? Okay? Uh? 1812 01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,479 Speaker 1: This is uh, this is the Mike right here. Well, 1813 01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:30,599 Speaker 1: how are you doing Mike? Okay, I'm doing great. How 1814 01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:34,439 Speaker 1: are you you do? I don't believe it. I'm doing good. 1815 01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing this all right. I don't have he has 1816 01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,439 Speaker 1: a vein coming out of his temple right right as 1817 01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,280 Speaker 1: we speak. I only have a little bit of time. 1818 01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:43,360 Speaker 1: I said, come to your question because I am one 1819 01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:46,519 Speaker 1: of those callers that asking about uh, you know, I 1820 01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:48,880 Speaker 1: was getting faster and speeding and all. But I will 1821 01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:52,360 Speaker 1: say this before I get them to answered this. First one. Uh, 1822 01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:57,880 Speaker 1: first one. First that first pick uh cold strain. I 1823 01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:00,200 Speaker 1: don't have a problem with the player, it's just where 1824 01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,320 Speaker 1: you picked him at, you know, I mean that I 1825 01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:05,599 Speaker 1: think that's the biggest problem. And you passed up one 1826 01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:10,759 Speaker 1: got Devin Devin Lloyd, Na Kobe b and Trent McDuffie 1827 01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:15,240 Speaker 1: and Jermaine Johnson. Yeah, you could have got you could 1828 01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:17,680 Speaker 1: have got coach strained like later, like and maybe just 1829 01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:21,280 Speaker 1: late second third or whatever, you know what I mean. 1830 01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, no, I'm kind of with you guys 1831 01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:29,040 Speaker 1: on that pack. Yeah, okay, And and last but not least, well, 1832 01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm playing too like this we asked for. See, it 1833 01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,760 Speaker 1: might not be the pick that you want, but you 1834 01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:37,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we never had enough for four to eight 1835 01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:41,320 Speaker 1: speed other than Brandon cooks up. But um hey, I'm 1836 01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:43,320 Speaker 1: just willing to see, you know, see what he can do. 1837 01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:45,599 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna because I've seen this. I've seen him 1838 01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:47,720 Speaker 1: on YouTube many times, but I never thought Bill with 1839 01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,240 Speaker 1: like I'll just skip over. I'm like, Bill's going to 1840 01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,320 Speaker 1: draft him now. I never thought too. But see what 1841 01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:56,439 Speaker 1: he can do? And that's it. Yeah, thanks, William definitely 1842 01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:58,240 Speaker 1: had some intrigue to camp for me that I that 1843 01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:00,519 Speaker 1: I was really hoping for. I mean, part her fine, 1844 01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,879 Speaker 1: but but you know, just a young kid with some 1845 01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,280 Speaker 1: some wheels on them. See what that does. And I mean, 1846 01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:07,040 Speaker 1: I know, you know, Paul is making a joke about 1847 01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,360 Speaker 1: about going against the Patriots defense, but I think it's great. 1848 01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:11,479 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to deal with guys like that, so 1849 01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, whether he's just you know, giving them a 1850 01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,439 Speaker 1: look at practice or whatever to start, like, just how 1851 01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:18,920 Speaker 1: do how do they how do they look against real speed? 1852 01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,040 Speaker 1: It's hard to get a sense when you know, all 1853 01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:22,559 Speaker 1: the guys that are on the field for the offense 1854 01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:26,240 Speaker 1: maybe aren't aren't burners like that? Yeah? Uh, Eddie's in Florida. 1855 01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:31,439 Speaker 1: Hey Eddie. Hey, guys. You know, I'm not saying anything 1856 01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:34,599 Speaker 1: you haven't heard before, but looking at last year's draft, 1857 01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,840 Speaker 1: rounds one through three, they all bill need and it 1858 01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:40,200 Speaker 1: was a really good draft. You'd pretty much tell that 1859 01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:44,080 Speaker 1: after one year. Usually it thinks two or three. And 1860 01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,240 Speaker 1: my question is, like, how did we get so many 1861 01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,240 Speaker 1: needs this year? After the draft we had all the 1862 01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:53,040 Speaker 1: free agents we had, It's just crazy that, you know, 1863 01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,760 Speaker 1: we have so many needs to build. Yeah, and then 1864 01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:59,320 Speaker 1: the fact that they went one through three um with 1865 01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:02,960 Speaker 1: a guard and a you know, featherweight receiver and a 1866 01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:07,719 Speaker 1: five eight kick returner. I think when we wanted speed, 1867 01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was on defense. So instead of 1868 01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:12,759 Speaker 1: running back, running back, quarterback, they should have went lineback, 1869 01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:16,519 Speaker 1: a safety edge. What do you guys think? You know 1870 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:20,679 Speaker 1: what I think defense early and often I'm I'm okay 1871 01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:23,960 Speaker 1: that they think SETI I'm okay with the offense because 1872 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:28,080 Speaker 1: I think I think it's hard to hold teams down. 1873 01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:29,880 Speaker 1: I think you need to try to school with can 1874 01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:33,719 Speaker 1: we force a punt? Yeah? Wow? You need speed everywhere. 1875 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:37,559 Speaker 1: So but I think the priority was defense. The only 1876 01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,639 Speaker 1: thing I can rationalize is that I think I said 1877 01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:42,400 Speaker 1: this on one of the shows during the draft, was 1878 01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:44,559 Speaker 1: maybe they think they're closer to where they need to 1879 01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,000 Speaker 1: be on offense and they wanted to just finish up. 1880 01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,040 Speaker 1: Finish the job. Yeah, finish up. Thought about the same thing, 1881 01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,719 Speaker 1: you know, and maybe like defense is such a project 1882 01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:55,160 Speaker 1: that we have to do that piecemeal for a little while, 1883 01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,400 Speaker 1: for maybe another year or two. I just think maybe 1884 01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:01,040 Speaker 1: that's the explanation. I think they had major needs they filled. Like, 1885 01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:04,400 Speaker 1: as much as I criticize the draft, I can't argue 1886 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:08,080 Speaker 1: that they filled a major need with the first round pick, right, Yeah, Like, 1887 01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it was necessarily this is better than that, 1888 01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:14,000 Speaker 1: that's worse than this. This will take longer. We have 1889 01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,360 Speaker 1: major needs. This is a guy we like to fill 1890 01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,000 Speaker 1: one of those major needs. We're gonna go with the guard. Yea. 1891 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,120 Speaker 1: I think it's as simple as that. Yeah, it's a 1892 01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:26,000 Speaker 1: player that they liked at a need that was major. Yeah, 1893 01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,240 Speaker 1: it's just it's I think about how to upgrade speed 1894 01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:30,519 Speaker 1: on defense, and I think that's why we're kind of 1895 01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:34,439 Speaker 1: enamored with Dean and Lloyd. That's the spot. It feels 1896 01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:39,519 Speaker 1: like you get a fast corner looking kind of like 1897 01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:43,439 Speaker 1: through the draft for a loop because no one has 1898 01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,760 Speaker 1: any idea. Well we have an idea, but no one 1899 01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:49,360 Speaker 1: knows for sure why everybody, you know, like it's another 1900 01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:51,519 Speaker 1: one that people are like, oh, the draft experts that 1901 01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:53,360 Speaker 1: thought in the Kobe Dean was going in the first round, 1902 01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,640 Speaker 1: and you read like, you know, the seven surgeries that 1903 01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:59,360 Speaker 1: he's had, you know whatever, like the massive red flags 1904 01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:02,439 Speaker 1: that he has from my health perspective, that's why he 1905 01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:05,200 Speaker 1: didn't go in the first round. Yeah, you know, but 1906 01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:08,160 Speaker 1: why wasn't that a factor early on? Like why wasn't 1907 01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:11,080 Speaker 1: that taken into consideration when everyone was evaluating. I know, 1908 01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:13,679 Speaker 1: that's it's just made me feel, you know, not dumb, 1909 01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:16,240 Speaker 1: just because everybody dumb, but I feel we But we 1910 01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:18,280 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time talking like those two guys. 1911 01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we were up for the draft 1912 01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:22,400 Speaker 1: show and it's like they were you guys couldn't see it, 1913 01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:23,760 Speaker 1: but they had the TV up and it's like do 1914 01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:26,439 Speaker 1: Soo's big board, Nakobe Deane number one, you know, like 1915 01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:28,320 Speaker 1: the guys going third round. Overall, I'm like, I look 1916 01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:31,120 Speaker 1: at im mediate, but but you don't. It's I know, 1917 01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,080 Speaker 1: it's all you know, it's and a lot of people 1918 01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,120 Speaker 1: might not have not like the people that are doing 1919 01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,719 Speaker 1: this might be talking to personnel people in the NFL, 1920 01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:41,639 Speaker 1: which they do, and maybe no one wanted to say 1921 01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,360 Speaker 1: on the record that, right, I gotta I gotta red flag. 1922 01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:48,439 Speaker 1: Maybe you're hoping somebody why give everybody else set in? Right? Yeah, 1923 01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:50,360 Speaker 1: it is weird though, and I mean I'm don't it 1924 01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:53,280 Speaker 1: all came out the day of the draft, by the way, right, right, 1925 01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:55,320 Speaker 1: I mean that was the day of the first round 1926 01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,760 Speaker 1: that all of those by the way so refused surgery. Right, 1927 01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,760 Speaker 1: so some of those guys obviously decided to talk. Yeah, 1928 01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:05,400 Speaker 1: Neil and new Brunswick, there can be no doubt our 1929 01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,840 Speaker 1: draft class was uninspiring. But I've moved on to the 1930 01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:12,639 Speaker 1: stage called acceptance. A few comments. No, you're with Mike one. 1931 01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:14,839 Speaker 1: As long as Bill is here, we should do ourselves 1932 01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,479 Speaker 1: a favor and never waste a minute looking at another 1933 01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:20,679 Speaker 1: mock draft. It's an exercise and futility. Well, you shouldn't 1934 01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:23,240 Speaker 1: look at mock drafts as often as you do. I 1935 01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:26,360 Speaker 1: agree with that. Period. Two, I feel bad for Cole 1936 01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:30,040 Speaker 1: Strange and Taekwon Thornton. It's not their fault. They were overdrafted. 1937 01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:32,240 Speaker 1: I sincerely hope they can prove Bill right and many 1938 01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:35,799 Speaker 1: others wrong. They should never get the Nikkil Harry treatment. 1939 01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,360 Speaker 1: In my opinion, all they did was answer the phone. 1940 01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:42,120 Speaker 1: And three, well, same for Nikkil too right, he can't 1941 01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:46,479 Speaker 1: help where he was. He was. And three everything that 1942 01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:49,400 Speaker 1: has happened since February has been on paper. They still 1943 01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:52,960 Speaker 1: play the games on fields. Let's let's wait until something 1944 01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:57,320 Speaker 1: happens on the fields before we judge this offseason. That's 1945 01:39:57,439 --> 01:39:59,000 Speaker 1: kind of the point I was making earlier. Now that 1946 01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:01,280 Speaker 1: they're here, let's see what they can do. But oh yeah, 1947 01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:03,760 Speaker 1: that that is I gotta I gotta give a shout 1948 01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,519 Speaker 1: out to a friend of the show, Derek Havens, who 1949 01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:07,759 Speaker 1: sent me I loved I had mentioned I had mentioned 1950 01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:11,120 Speaker 1: last week the PFF mock draft simulators. The exact number 1951 01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:14,960 Speaker 1: was seven hundred and eighty three thousand and two of 1952 01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:19,519 Speaker 1: them had the Patriots tatrange. Then Derek was like No, 1953 01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,040 Speaker 1: It's like it was probably Belichick and Matt Patricia like 1954 01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,400 Speaker 1: than once. I was like maybe more map than Bill. 1955 01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:28,120 Speaker 1: I get see Bill doing the mock draft simulating back 1956 01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:31,320 Speaker 1: girl right Like It's like, I don't think that's that crazy, Like, 1957 01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:33,680 Speaker 1: let's just see what would happen here? We plugged out 1958 01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:35,280 Speaker 1: in it out? Kind of funny, but seven hundred and 1959 01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:41,280 Speaker 1: eighty three changes on paper or irrelevant? What what did 1960 01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:47,920 Speaker 1: you last see? Not good? Like? What did you last see? Bill? Fred? 1961 01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:50,559 Speaker 1: You've been saying it for like the last three days, 1962 01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:54,200 Speaker 1: the last three shows. Can we at least force a punt? 1963 01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:56,880 Speaker 1: You must have said that ten times over the weekend 1964 01:40:57,000 --> 01:41:02,160 Speaker 1: right before acceptance Duck tape Sam from Pleasanton, California. It's 1965 01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:05,320 Speaker 1: easy to understand the frustration of the most feverish fans 1966 01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:08,160 Speaker 1: in sports. Once again, Belichick and company did what they 1967 01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:10,479 Speaker 1: felt was best for the team, which turned out to 1968 01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:12,920 Speaker 1: be what no one else was thinking or wanted. The 1969 01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:17,200 Speaker 1: faithful are up in arms, media an analysts are perplexed, 1970 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,760 Speaker 1: and the rest of the league is laughing, like we 1971 01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:23,360 Speaker 1: needed another reason to despise LA. Now that you've had 1972 01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:26,040 Speaker 1: a few days to digest what happened over draft weekend. 1973 01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,479 Speaker 1: Here are my top five questions for each of you. 1974 01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:32,320 Speaker 1: Number One, if Strangers indeed considered a day one starter, 1975 01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,160 Speaker 1: how many other rookies will be plug and place starters 1976 01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:39,320 Speaker 1: this season, like in the league or on this None 1977 01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:45,880 Speaker 1: of them? Probably none on the Patriots. He's saying, yeah, rookies, 1978 01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:47,920 Speaker 1: I think he's talking about in the league. Oh well, 1979 01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:51,120 Speaker 1: a lot of them. Yeah, okay, yeah, a lot of them. 1980 01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:54,720 Speaker 1: Two do you expect the team to add any additional 1981 01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:57,720 Speaker 1: starters via trade or free agency before the start of 1982 01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:01,479 Speaker 1: the season? Of so, what position? Do you say? Defense? Flowers, 1983 01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:04,280 Speaker 1: perhaps someone in that vein front seven? I think it's 1984 01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:08,639 Speaker 1: reasonable to expect what Yeah. Three, if you're our GM, 1985 01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:11,800 Speaker 1: would you offer high Tower a one year minimum deal 1986 01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,880 Speaker 1: or have you already moved on to the unproven players 1987 01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:17,280 Speaker 1: waiting in the wings? Moved on? I've moved on. I've 1988 01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:20,479 Speaker 1: moved on, But I still think that could happen too. 1989 01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,120 Speaker 1: I still think that could happen. Yeah, I would prefer 1990 01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,479 Speaker 1: to move on, but I still think it could happen. 1991 01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:27,680 Speaker 1: The only way I'm getting him an offer is if 1992 01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:30,920 Speaker 1: I if you're desperate, and if I want him on 1993 01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:32,519 Speaker 1: the bench, I'm not going to give him an offer. 1994 01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:36,760 Speaker 1: He's not gonna want it. Why would because he's not 1995 01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:39,240 Speaker 1: as good as the guys, the young guys at this 1996 01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:41,479 Speaker 1: point in his career. But if you resign him, then 1997 01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:43,320 Speaker 1: you obviously think that he is. That's what I mean. 1998 01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:46,519 Speaker 1: So you know, I've moved on. Yeah, I don't think 1999 01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:48,320 Speaker 1: he has any interest in playing, So I don't think 2000 01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:50,040 Speaker 1: it's it's weird that he hasn't said anything. I just 2001 01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:52,120 Speaker 1: that that's what I find Stroy. He could come back, 2002 01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:56,720 Speaker 1: or and I just decide to stay out. We don't know. 2003 01:42:57,080 --> 01:42:59,599 Speaker 1: We just don't know. Four. Does the addition of Zappe 2004 01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:01,920 Speaker 1: a fit actually mark the end of Stidham's tenure with 2005 01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:05,160 Speaker 1: the team, or does Belichick keep all four quarterbacks around 2006 01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:08,640 Speaker 1: this season. I don't think he'll keep all four, but 2007 01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:11,400 Speaker 1: I don't think it officially in Stidham's career. Let's see, 2008 01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,479 Speaker 1: let's see what he can injuries in camp and in 2009 01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:18,000 Speaker 1: his ability. Yeah, what if he can't play? Yeah exactly 2010 01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:24,960 Speaker 1: that Now? Is he particularly mobile? No? No, I mean 2011 01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,160 Speaker 1: he's okay. So I was thinking you put him on 2012 01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:29,439 Speaker 1: the you know, I mean squad and use him as 2013 01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:32,360 Speaker 1: a scout. It's hard to go by college rushing totals 2014 01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:35,519 Speaker 1: because the sack yardage gets counted for a quarterback in 2015 01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:39,920 Speaker 1: college as rushing. So he has like zero yards career. Yeah. Uh, 2016 01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:43,120 Speaker 1: he had just like zero point eight yards per carry. Yeah. 2017 01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:46,000 Speaker 1: On on jto Sullivan's breakdown over at the quarterback school 2018 01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:49,240 Speaker 1: on YouTube, he showed against Army he had like a 2019 01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:51,240 Speaker 1: like a forty yards scrambled it. So we can mode 2020 01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:55,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. It's Danny, but yeah, I bet he's not. Uh. 2021 01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:59,000 Speaker 1: And finally, I know it's early, just wondering which undrafted 2022 01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:01,160 Speaker 1: rookie do you like is your front runner to make 2023 01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:04,880 Speaker 1: the team and at what position? De Eric King see 2024 01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:07,560 Speaker 1: that could be your slot receiver. He could be. He 2025 01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:10,000 Speaker 1: could be he could be a practice player of the 2026 01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:12,519 Speaker 1: week every week. That had made me feel great if 2027 01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:15,000 Speaker 1: we took a quarterback and just immediately plugged him in 2028 01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:17,840 Speaker 1: as a starter, you know, unlike Edelman, who he took 2029 01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:23,120 Speaker 1: him three years. Who else would be? I don't know. 2030 01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:25,960 Speaker 1: It's hard to it's hard to project with Derek King's 2031 01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:28,400 Speaker 1: a good you know, it's a fun player to watch. 2032 01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he's here, but he's he's a top flight athlete. 2033 01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:35,840 Speaker 1: He's really small. Lebrian Ray from Alabama defensive line guy, 2034 01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:40,280 Speaker 1: but he was unspectacular. Yeah, I'd probably go de Eric King. 2035 01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:43,280 Speaker 1: I mean I would just just because it's the guy, 2036 01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, without having any idea, I would just pick 2037 01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:47,439 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. Is it the Eric? Does he go 2038 01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:51,960 Speaker 1: by Derek? It's he does, say Eric? Why? I was 2039 01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:55,360 Speaker 1: just wondering it just one? Yeah, I think he goes by. 2040 01:44:55,720 --> 01:45:00,720 Speaker 1: He's quarterback at Houston and Minami, oh boy, put down 2041 01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:04,240 Speaker 1: the cigarettes fault. It's really I mean, I mean pretty 2042 01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,720 Speaker 1: much make such a good point there. I don't know why. 2043 01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:15,600 Speaker 1: I haven't any of his points. We don't know it. 2044 01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:17,760 Speaker 1: But Paul goes home. He's a chain smoker, just like 2045 01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:25,360 Speaker 1: one after another. A guy get light value, safe home, Honey. 2046 01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:30,800 Speaker 1: I'd rather fight than switch. Um. Joe writes in in 2047 01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:33,200 Speaker 1: these past weeks, you all have said that we would 2048 01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:35,680 Speaker 1: need at least three of these draft picks to contribute 2049 01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:38,760 Speaker 1: this year. How do you feel about this now? How 2050 01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,880 Speaker 1: do you feel about it now? Do you see at 2051 01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:45,000 Speaker 1: least three of these rookies being able to contribute this year? Nope? 2052 01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:47,960 Speaker 1: And he puts the word big, contribute big this year. 2053 01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:50,799 Speaker 1: Ready for the season to start. And I also imagine 2054 01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:53,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots pick some big name veteran during the season. 2055 01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:58,160 Speaker 1: I I don't know. I hope, I hope that you know, 2056 01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:02,040 Speaker 1: strange to receive ever and one of the corners contributed. 2057 01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:04,479 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I mean, I think baseline the baseline 2058 01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:07,080 Speaker 1: is strange at guard and and Marcus Jones as as 2059 01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:10,440 Speaker 1: your kickoff and punt returner and maybe maybe like a playmaker, 2060 01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:12,040 Speaker 1: and you know, not just like oh a guy to 2061 01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:13,960 Speaker 1: be back there and return punts like a guy who 2062 01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:16,320 Speaker 1: legitimately is a weapon as a as a returner. Like 2063 01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:20,360 Speaker 1: if he's like Generalleschevsky returning punts and kicks, is that 2064 01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:24,080 Speaker 1: considered a big contract? And he was an All Pro Paul, No, 2065 01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:27,240 Speaker 1: I know that I'm counting that y'all pro season, Like 2066 01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:30,559 Speaker 1: imagine that one game he had every game? I mean, 2067 01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:34,160 Speaker 1: and I know that they didn't pick him just so 2068 01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:36,600 Speaker 1: he could return, Like I I understand that I'm not 2069 01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:38,920 Speaker 1: killing them for something that I don't even think they did. 2070 01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,719 Speaker 1: But you know, if all he is as a returner, 2071 01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:45,880 Speaker 1: you don't have kick returns anymore. And Fred has gone 2072 01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:47,880 Speaker 1: to great lengths over the last couple of weekends to 2073 01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:51,760 Speaker 1: tell us how they don't force punts, So, like, what 2074 01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:53,240 Speaker 1: do we do. What do we have a you know, 2075 01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:55,479 Speaker 1: a dynamic return man for when he doesn't really get 2076 01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:58,200 Speaker 1: an opportunity to return. Yeah, and how does his presence 2077 01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:01,479 Speaker 1: affect Jonathan Jones and Miles Bryant And how does that 2078 01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:05,639 Speaker 1: fit together? Yeah, without having seen him on the field yet, 2079 01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:08,000 Speaker 1: would you be concerned if he's one of your starting 2080 01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:11,400 Speaker 1: corners this year? Well, I mean, at least we're going 2081 01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:13,080 Speaker 1: to the job. Based on what I saw of him, 2082 01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:15,120 Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, if he could win the job. 2083 01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:17,679 Speaker 1: I think he's got skills to be you know, he's small, 2084 01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:20,040 Speaker 1: but I think he's quick. I think he shows good 2085 01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:22,479 Speaker 1: skill like you know, good athleticism, good plays in the 2086 01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:24,680 Speaker 1: ball like. I mean, I think he's more of a 2087 01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:27,760 Speaker 1: returner to start spot, fill in guy at cornerback and 2088 01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:31,840 Speaker 1: and you know, yeah, I'm very skeptical of those two 2089 01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:35,320 Speaker 1: corners based on size. They're really small. But I wonder 2090 01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:39,120 Speaker 1: about Stuber as the as like the third backup tackle. 2091 01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:41,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that that's a potential spot where 2092 01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't feel great about Haran could just Arlington Hambright um, 2093 01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:51,360 Speaker 1: So maybe that's another spot where you know, somebody could 2094 01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:54,479 Speaker 1: could kind of emerge. Ray and Saint Louis. I'm a 2095 01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:57,599 Speaker 1: little disappointed, only because I spent a week doing draft 2096 01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:00,920 Speaker 1: simulations before the draft, and only person I got right 2097 01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:03,479 Speaker 1: was our wide receiver, but I got him in the fifth. 2098 01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:07,240 Speaker 1: Hopefully these guys are dogs and play with fire. Who 2099 01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:09,360 Speaker 1: do you think we could possibly still pick up in 2100 01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:14,040 Speaker 1: free agency? That's that's his question. I'd have to I mean, 2101 01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:15,840 Speaker 1: I'd have to look beyond some of the some of 2102 01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:17,720 Speaker 1: the obvious one than Flowers is an easy one. But 2103 01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:20,400 Speaker 1: now that the comp formulas and I know that there's 2104 01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:23,479 Speaker 1: there's guys that are available, but like I mean, there's 2105 01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:26,479 Speaker 1: a reason why guys are available. At this point, you 2106 01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:28,639 Speaker 1: might you might get a you know, a Keem Hicks 2107 01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:34,200 Speaker 1: is still available, but again, these guys are not going 2108 01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:37,040 Speaker 1: to come in and transform your team, and they're on 2109 01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:41,040 Speaker 1: the street in the middle of May, right, um, Zach 2110 01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:45,200 Speaker 1: and Brighton amazing job, but the draft coverage all weekend? Uh? 2111 01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:48,799 Speaker 1: Question in a comment, first and foremost regarding Taekwon Thornton, 2112 01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:52,720 Speaker 1: do you um think with him only being twenty one 2113 01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,720 Speaker 1: he turns twenty two August seven, add some hope that 2114 01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,200 Speaker 1: he can continue to fill out his frame. I love 2115 01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,479 Speaker 1: to pick, but I do have some durability questions that 2116 01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:03,280 Speaker 1: I would feel better about if he was closer to 2117 01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:05,800 Speaker 1: at least one ninety to two hundred by the time 2118 01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:08,600 Speaker 1: he's twenty four twenty five. Yeah, I think. I mean, 2119 01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:11,360 Speaker 1: it seems like he's got some some you know, ability 2120 01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:14,120 Speaker 1: to put he's like one eight right now. Yeah, I 2121 01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:18,640 Speaker 1: just love you don't want to lose that speed, you know, No, 2122 01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,680 Speaker 1: And that's why I loved listening to him kind of 2123 01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:24,000 Speaker 1: talk about it, just as somebody who could never run 2124 01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:27,040 Speaker 1: fast and was always jealous of the kids that somehow could, 2125 01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:29,519 Speaker 1: but just talking about Yeah, I was just wicking fast, 2126 01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:31,200 Speaker 1: and then you know, I got in the weight room, 2127 01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:33,479 Speaker 1: then I was like even faster, and then I really 2128 01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:35,000 Speaker 1: started looking on first ball and then and then we 2129 01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:36,680 Speaker 1: were really talking how fast and like, what's it like? 2130 01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:38,360 Speaker 1: Like I just felt like I was always at like, 2131 01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, two thirds speed of everybody else trying to 2132 01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:49,599 Speaker 1: run it out. But also, I can't stand draft grades run. 2133 01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:52,240 Speaker 1: I can't stand draft grade season. I get that the 2134 01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:54,600 Speaker 1: sports meet world is what it is, but from a 2135 01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:58,559 Speaker 1: humanizing standpoint, could you imagine landing your dream job coming 2136 01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:01,040 Speaker 1: out of college and have everyone in the industry say 2137 01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:04,320 Speaker 1: that it was a deed to hire you a stretch comparison, 2138 01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:07,400 Speaker 1: I know, but I can't help, but this be sour 2139 01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:10,200 Speaker 1: about the whole grading thing, considering most people get it 2140 01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:13,400 Speaker 1: completely wrong anyway, right, not just for last twenty two years, 2141 01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:17,639 Speaker 1: not just from a Patriots standpoint either. For example, Good 2142 01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:21,240 Speaker 1: Morning Football mentioned today that most people gave the Seahawks 2143 01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:25,799 Speaker 1: an F in twenty twelve after selecting Bruce Irvant, Bobby Wagner, 2144 01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:29,240 Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson, who was grading the graders on their performance. 2145 01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:33,120 Speaker 1: People smear these kids' names for content and then they 2146 01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:36,240 Speaker 1: don't know blank about how they will really play. Yeah, 2147 01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:39,799 Speaker 1: no one's who's that from? It's from Zach and Brighton. 2148 01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:43,320 Speaker 1: No one's forcing you to read the grades either. It's like, 2149 01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:45,040 Speaker 1: if you don't like them, don't read them. It's got 2150 01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:50,040 Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. I know, I know what 2151 01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:56,280 Speaker 1: it is, just saying, Alex, because the content is we're 2152 01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:59,519 Speaker 1: worried about the psyche of the poor kids that are 2153 01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:02,559 Speaker 1: being hold that they got their A D. They amount 2154 01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:06,280 Speaker 1: to A. Yes, that's your concern, is the humanity of 2155 01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:09,160 Speaker 1: it all? Yeah, Okay, the money would help me if 2156 01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:11,639 Speaker 1: somebody called me exactly. But here's a couple of million 2157 01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:13,280 Speaker 1: bucks a year. I've been called a lot worse, and 2158 01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:16,080 Speaker 1: I don't make anywhere near that amount of money alex 2159 01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:18,639 Speaker 1: and Philly. So it's official, according to all the experts 2160 01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:21,200 Speaker 1: that the Patriots just had the worst draft of all time. 2161 01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:24,320 Speaker 1: It's almost the consensus that the Patriots reached on every 2162 01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:26,920 Speaker 1: pick pretty much. It is weird that the fact that 2163 01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:29,640 Speaker 1: the Patriots got a bad draft grade by everyone who 2164 01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:32,360 Speaker 1: does those things actually makes me feel better about the 2165 01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:35,400 Speaker 1: draft class. We all know that Belichick has had several 2166 01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:37,960 Speaker 1: bad drafts in the past, and I'm pretty sure those 2167 01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:39,960 Speaker 1: same experts probably gave him an A or a B 2168 01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:43,400 Speaker 1: for those classes at the time. So I was surprised 2169 01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:46,759 Speaker 1: by the Belichick criticism of this draft class. But maybe 2170 01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:50,160 Speaker 1: in my crazy fan mind the reverse might happen this time. 2171 01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:52,560 Speaker 1: I liked the addition of speed at wide receiver and 2172 01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:55,720 Speaker 1: running back. Don't know why they drafted a second running back. 2173 01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:58,479 Speaker 1: I'm worried about the defense, and I didn't like a 2174 01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:00,840 Speaker 1: guard in the first round, so I guess I'll give 2175 01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:05,240 Speaker 1: the Patriots a C plus. So like everybody else, Yeah, 2176 01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm surprised people are that confounded by the 2177 01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:14,040 Speaker 1: running back they've got one running back under contract for 2178 01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:16,639 Speaker 1: next year. So I mean, is it really that crazy. 2179 01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:18,400 Speaker 1: They've done it before, They've taken two before, and the 2180 01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:20,040 Speaker 1: same kind of thing with Ridley and Verreen. I just 2181 01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:23,439 Speaker 1: think they are irrelevant positions to use two draft picks 2182 01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:26,479 Speaker 1: on when you are a major rebuild. Like I think 2183 01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:29,479 Speaker 1: it's fine to take a running back when you don't 2184 01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:32,240 Speaker 1: really need one when you have the best team in football. 2185 01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with that. You're sort of 2186 01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:36,960 Speaker 1: building capital for when Shane Vereen leaves and I can 2187 01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:40,000 Speaker 1: replace them with James White. That's a luxury when you're great. 2188 01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:42,800 Speaker 1: They don't have that luxury right now, Well I don't. 2189 01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:45,200 Speaker 1: I mean, but to Deuce's point, if you have one 2190 01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:47,720 Speaker 1: guy under contract for twenty twenty three and you know 2191 01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:50,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna need four or five on your roster, I 2192 01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:54,080 Speaker 1: think they always overstock it too. They always are anticipating 2193 01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:56,760 Speaker 1: injuries and they always use a lot of them. And 2194 01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:58,800 Speaker 1: I mean I say that as like I was kind 2195 01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:02,000 Speaker 1: of met on Kevin Harris, but I mean I was 2196 01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:04,160 Speaker 1: gonna say, like, you're gonna have one guy under contract 2197 01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:06,880 Speaker 1: either way, Like these guys are no locks, no, I know, 2198 01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:09,479 Speaker 1: so like it's not like you solved your running back 2199 01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:12,560 Speaker 1: problem for twenty twenty three. But well you took a 2200 01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:14,800 Speaker 1: step toward that, you know. But what's so okay? So 2201 01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:17,160 Speaker 1: so now let's say they both hit. So now you 2202 01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:21,240 Speaker 1: have three perfect, that's perfect. Freend just told me you 2203 01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:24,040 Speaker 1: need five. Well you'll get the other two some other way. 2204 01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:27,720 Speaker 1: Oh okay, I agree, But getting having to get two 2205 01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:30,600 Speaker 1: is better than having to get four or five. You 2206 01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:33,320 Speaker 1: don't need to have five. You have vermondre Stevenson is 2207 01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:36,479 Speaker 1: slated to be your lead back. Yep. So you just 2208 01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:40,200 Speaker 1: need complimentary pieces. Oh you need more than that. Guys 2209 01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:43,120 Speaker 1: get hurt. We always say, what are they gonna do 2210 01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:45,600 Speaker 1: with all those running backs? You can always play, you 2211 01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:47,840 Speaker 1: can have four complimentary people. That's what happened, you know, 2212 01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:50,599 Speaker 1: with Bolden and James White. Thank god we had James 2213 01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:56,519 Speaker 1: Bolden on the roster. I mean Brandon Bolden. Who's James Yeah, 2214 01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:00,240 Speaker 1: thank god? Nobody his uncle, thank god, because no one 2215 01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:04,599 Speaker 1: else kind of James Baldwin. Uh. Let's see Ben from 2216 01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:07,200 Speaker 1: Pittsfield over the Penny Times. He proves my point when 2217 01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:11,280 Speaker 1: he thinks he between my place an undrafted special team 2218 01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:13,720 Speaker 1: or did the job. Imagine. Yeah, but he's on the 2219 01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:16,640 Speaker 1: roster right, so just get complimentary pieces. This is what 2220 01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:22,479 Speaker 1: I'm saying to him. Bolden was undrafted. Over the past 2221 01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:24,720 Speaker 1: few years, I've heard a lot of negativity about the 2222 01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:27,760 Speaker 1: draft and the Patriots future. I understand and to some 2223 01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:31,599 Speaker 1: extent agree, But personally, I'm excited we have a young 2224 01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:34,200 Speaker 1: quarterback next year, We'll have a solid amount of draft 2225 01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:37,000 Speaker 1: picks and more importantly, a ton of cap space. We 2226 01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:39,560 Speaker 1: can't expect success right away. And while I wasn't a 2227 01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,320 Speaker 1: big fan of some of the draft picks, I am 2228 01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:45,200 Speaker 1: excited about the speed we have. I'm very happy we 2229 01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:48,240 Speaker 1: will hopefully be playing some of the younger defensive players. 2230 01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:50,640 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, we made some changes. 2231 01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:53,400 Speaker 1: It will be exciting to see how they translate to 2232 01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:56,800 Speaker 1: the field. So there you go. Yeah, it's a different 2233 01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:58,840 Speaker 1: team now. I mean, I think that's that's part of 2234 01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:01,360 Speaker 1: the part of the whole big picture, is that you know, 2235 01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:03,040 Speaker 1: you're so used to be in a certain way for 2236 01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:05,280 Speaker 1: so long, and you know, what does it look like 2237 01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:07,800 Speaker 1: in a rebuild and be trying to become like that young, 2238 01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,560 Speaker 1: upstart team, And you know, how do you transition to 2239 01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:14,280 Speaker 1: that without totally blowing it up? And losing any connection 2240 01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:17,280 Speaker 1: to what you had. But you know, also being mindful 2241 01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:19,880 Speaker 1: of certain guys can't play forever. And I mean, I 2242 01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:22,360 Speaker 1: think we've been critical of hanging on to some guys 2243 01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:24,520 Speaker 1: a little bit too long. But you know, it seems 2244 01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:25,800 Speaker 1: like this year it's going to be a little bit 2245 01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:29,000 Speaker 1: more of an influx of unproven guys and that's scary. 2246 01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:32,000 Speaker 1: But if some of those guys hit with opportunity, then 2247 01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:34,280 Speaker 1: you have some twenty twenty three will be are all 2248 01:55:34,360 --> 01:55:38,080 Speaker 1: in here. That's our all in season, John writes in 2249 01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:39,880 Speaker 1: the way it looks right now, it's going to be 2250 01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:42,200 Speaker 1: a rip it down to the studs rebuild you quick 2251 01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:45,120 Speaker 1: question for Mike. In the PU episodes after Brady went 2252 01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:48,080 Speaker 1: to Tampa, Mike kept talking about how much and he 2253 01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:51,560 Speaker 1: has quotes fun it would be to rebuild, to see 2254 01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:53,680 Speaker 1: how the young guys develop, and what Bill would do 2255 01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:57,360 Speaker 1: to evolve and rebuild. I'm just curious if Mike's having 2256 01:55:57,520 --> 01:56:01,640 Speaker 1: fun or when he thinks the fun might start. Watching 2257 01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:03,960 Speaker 1: the end of last season and this weekend's draft, I'm 2258 01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:06,560 Speaker 1: not having much fun. I don't want to take this 2259 01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:08,720 Speaker 1: as a shot at Mike. I like him. Just that 2260 01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:13,200 Speaker 1: statement about the rebuild being fun rubbed me wrong when 2261 01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:15,960 Speaker 1: he said it then as and it has stuck with me. 2262 01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't think this rebuild would be fun. The AFC 2263 01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:21,600 Speaker 1: is loaded and we don't have the personnel to keep up. 2264 01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:24,280 Speaker 1: I think we are looking at third or fourth place 2265 01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:26,920 Speaker 1: in the East. So Mac Jones, no fun for you. 2266 01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:29,520 Speaker 1: Last year, that wasn't fun finding a rookie quarterback, bringing 2267 01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:32,320 Speaker 1: him in, watching him succeed. I have a lot of 2268 01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:34,320 Speaker 1: fun with Mac Jones, and I mean I do. I 2269 01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:37,520 Speaker 1: know it's a challenge. I mean it's hard, but I 2270 01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:39,920 Speaker 1: think it's fun watching the team. How you know, rebuild, 2271 01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:42,600 Speaker 1: I know it like it is painful, no question. I'm 2272 01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:45,160 Speaker 1: gonna speak for Mike here, and he is Nothing that 2273 01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:48,120 Speaker 1: he just said is not true. He's enjoying this process. 2274 01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:51,240 Speaker 1: He likes this element of it. I'm with the emailer. 2275 01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:54,240 Speaker 1: I don't find any of this fun. I liked it 2276 01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:56,480 Speaker 1: better when we were winning the AC championship every year. 2277 01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,840 Speaker 1: That was me. Yeah, I'm you call me a front runner. 2278 01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:03,480 Speaker 1: I mean that's okay. I'll accept it, but I don't 2279 01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:06,240 Speaker 1: appreciate that the fact. No, I think Mike is as 2280 01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:09,200 Speaker 1: genuine as it comes with the whole process he's excited 2281 01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:12,600 Speaker 1: about Mac Jones. I'm not so like that kind of like, well, 2282 01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:14,360 Speaker 1: you have to accept it. It's like a lot of 2283 01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:17,080 Speaker 1: people were hoping that we wouldn't have to go through 2284 01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:20,800 Speaker 1: this process after Brady somehow, oh yeah, somehow we would 2285 01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:23,360 Speaker 1: just figure out a way different thing. You know, realistically, 2286 01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:25,920 Speaker 1: this is exactly where I kind of expected to be. 2287 01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:28,640 Speaker 1: Who thought that there was going to be a seamless 2288 01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:31,320 Speaker 1: like from Absolutely, I'm not angered by it at all, 2289 01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:34,680 Speaker 1: but but I also don't think it's overly fun. Yeah, 2290 01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:37,200 Speaker 1: and it's also not a perfect perfect process. I mean, 2291 01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:39,320 Speaker 1: you know, you took some steps back the first year, 2292 01:57:39,360 --> 01:57:41,480 Speaker 1: you took some steps forward last year, but then it 2293 01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:45,480 Speaker 1: ended it poorly, and you know this year again there's questions. 2294 01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, you're not just going to easily build 2295 01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:50,240 Speaker 1: on last year and right now, ye, Cam in a mistake. 2296 01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:54,760 Speaker 1: I think it was. And I also think going hog 2297 01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:57,480 Speaker 1: wilder because why because I think you should have been 2298 01:57:57,480 --> 01:57:59,280 Speaker 1: able to play somebody else to find out if you 2299 01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:03,040 Speaker 1: had anything there, namely jared' Stidham. What about like winning 2300 01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:05,760 Speaker 1: too many games? No, they didn't win some games. I'm 2301 01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:09,280 Speaker 1: not gonna be hypocritical or at the time, I was 2302 01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:13,880 Speaker 1: excited about it. Yeah, but I didn't know he couldn't play. Yeah, 2303 01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:17,440 Speaker 1: this is all in hindsight. At the time, we were like, 2304 01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:20,120 Speaker 1: oh my god, they got Cam Newton, right, But much 2305 01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:22,120 Speaker 1: like we're you know, we're not allowed to weigh in 2306 01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:24,080 Speaker 1: on the draft right now because we don't know. They 2307 01:58:24,120 --> 01:58:28,480 Speaker 1: should know, Yeah, and they didn't. Yeah right about Cam 2308 01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:31,800 Speaker 1: that he couldn't play. Yeah, I mean he couldn't and 2309 01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:33,800 Speaker 1: I would rather And I think that it was a 2310 01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:36,000 Speaker 1: mistake to go hog wild and free agency last year. 2311 01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:39,800 Speaker 1: You've talked about that. Wow, Like in retrospect, maybe they 2312 01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:43,280 Speaker 1: should have been. I think they were were conflicted last 2313 01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:48,200 Speaker 1: But I mean, okay, let's say that they saved some 2314 01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:51,320 Speaker 1: of that money for this year, Like where would they 2315 01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:54,920 Speaker 1: have spended on who defensive front seven? I would hope, 2316 01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, that would be that would be the spot. 2317 01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:00,680 Speaker 1: But or hit. But then you and if they did 2318 01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:03,800 Speaker 1: what they did and hit, well, yeah, if you didn't 2319 01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:06,040 Speaker 1: get all those tight ends of wide receivers, you'd go 2320 01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:08,000 Speaker 1: into this season go we need tight ends and read 2321 01:59:08,040 --> 01:59:10,040 Speaker 1: receiver and then they wouldn't spend it on where you 2322 01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:11,920 Speaker 1: want to spend it. You know, it's I mean it's 2323 01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:14,400 Speaker 1: so hard. They signed two wide receivers last year and 2324 01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:16,800 Speaker 1: took they traded up in the second round to take one. Yeah, 2325 01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:19,800 Speaker 1: so I mean that they still need help. Sure, it's 2326 01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:22,640 Speaker 1: also just the convergence of events of last year with 2327 01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:25,120 Speaker 1: COVID and the money, and I think we would have 2328 01:59:25,160 --> 01:59:28,000 Speaker 1: been moaning and groaning if they hadn't spent all that money. 2329 01:59:28,080 --> 01:59:31,840 Speaker 1: Now again on who you can question question that, but 2330 01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:33,360 Speaker 1: at the time we were like, oh, they got the 2331 01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:35,840 Speaker 1: best of the breed at the positions that they spent 2332 01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:39,000 Speaker 1: it on. So I mean, I don't know, it's it's 2333 01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:41,680 Speaker 1: it's why it's hard. That's why being in the position 2334 01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:46,480 Speaker 1: of building a winner is. You know, we're not used 2335 01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:49,000 Speaker 1: to that. For twenty years, you know, we were in 2336 01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:52,200 Speaker 1: the position of maintaining a winner, and you know, it's 2337 01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:54,280 Speaker 1: it's like whack themole, you know. It's it's when you 2338 01:59:54,320 --> 01:59:56,720 Speaker 1: don't have the quarterback for sure in place that can 2339 01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:59,000 Speaker 1: you know really just I mean Brady was Brady, but 2340 01:59:59,240 --> 02:00:00,760 Speaker 1: you know still I think the there's a collection of 2341 02:00:00,880 --> 02:00:03,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks across the league that, you know, just make the 2342 02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:05,440 Speaker 1: team better and they give you some leeway to work 2343 02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:07,360 Speaker 1: with him when you don't really have that you don't. 2344 02:00:07,480 --> 02:00:09,240 Speaker 1: You know, you're starting Cam Newton at the end or 2345 02:00:09,240 --> 02:00:11,760 Speaker 1: a rookie. You know, it's it's it's take. Everything's kind 2346 02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:13,560 Speaker 1: of more glaring and you take a shot. I mean, 2347 02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:15,800 Speaker 1: I know we're done, so it's a but. But do 2348 02:00:15,880 --> 02:00:17,760 Speaker 1: you think that maybe in retrospect there would have been 2349 02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:23,240 Speaker 1: better off Lettings did him play? Um? Probably, I think 2350 02:00:23,240 --> 02:00:25,440 Speaker 1: I don't think it would have mattered, but probably I 2351 02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:27,800 Speaker 1: don't think at least you would have known about I 2352 02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:29,880 Speaker 1: don't think he's that good. Yeah, I don't think he's 2353 02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:32,440 Speaker 1: that guy. But he could have played, gotten some experience 2354 02:00:32,520 --> 02:00:34,080 Speaker 1: and you would have known what you had. Right. Yeah, 2355 02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:39,040 Speaker 1: we wouldn't have had all the hits on social though. Okay, 2356 02:00:40,280 --> 02:00:42,640 Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna be it for this edition of 2357 02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:48,000 Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back on Thursday with more draft recap, 2358 02:00:48,320 --> 02:00:52,400 Speaker 1: more looking forward to the OTAs uh the schedule comes 2359 02:00:52,440 --> 02:00:55,400 Speaker 1: out next week twelve. They're going to announce that uh 2360 02:00:55,520 --> 02:01:00,200 Speaker 1: so um that'll be exciting and uh until Thursday. Thanks 2361 02:01:00,200 --> 02:01:05,480 Speaker 1: for listening. Thank you for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, 2362 02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:08,560 Speaker 1: google Play, and everywhere else you're listen. 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