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Speaker 2: Welcome in What Drive with Me Right? Episode two fifty two.
Speaker 2: First of August. Football is in the air. The Olympics
Speaker 2: are in full swing. This is an old Bill Simmons idea,
Speaker 2: but it is the correct idea. If we could somehow
Speaker 2: get at the Winter Olympics, Summer Olympics, and the World
Speaker 2: Cup on three year rotations instead of four year rotations
Speaker 2: and stagger them that way every year we either had
Speaker 2: an Olympics or a World Cup. Every year we had
Speaker 2: a massive multi week international event where we watch sports
Speaker 2: that were not always locked into or in the World Cup.
Speaker 2: Watch the biggest sporting event in the world. It would
Speaker 2: just greatly enhance life is a sports fan. It's a
Speaker 2: minor tweak, and again it's Bill Simmons's idea from gosh,
Speaker 2: fifteen years ago, maybe twenty years ago. But every time
Speaker 2: the Summer Olympics come around, I'm reminded how much I
Speaker 2: love them and how into sports that I otherwise don't
Speaker 2: really care about, how invested I am, how nervous I
Speaker 2: get for these competitors, and so I love it. It's,
Speaker 2: you know, odd that we're going to start here in
Speaker 2: a moment talking team USA, and I am invested in
Speaker 2: this team USA. But I can watch basketball all year.
Speaker 2: I can only watch shooting and four man rowing and
Speaker 2: synchronize diving once every four years. And I got to
Speaker 2: tell you, by about fifteen minutes of synchronized diving watching,
Speaker 2: I'm ready to be a judge. I'm out there shouting
Speaker 2: out scores left and right. Demonsey, you're laughing. And also,
Speaker 2: by the way, you I don't know if this is
Speaker 2: a plus or a minus, but you're you know you're
Speaker 2: missing out. Your sisters are not, which is every night
Speaker 2: at eight o'clock group text, living room, Primetime Olympics, and
Speaker 2: Diora is sitting there annoyed and she's like, you're giving
Speaker 2: commentary on it. Deanna is seemingly into it, and then
Speaker 2: fades and I am locked in and yours. Two nights
Speaker 2: ago for the women's gymnastics, she was like, I already
Speaker 2: know who won because it's all tape delayed at night.
Speaker 2: She was like, you know, I get the spoilers on TikTok.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I know who won too. That doesn't
Speaker 2: change the fact we are locked in as a family
Speaker 2: watching these and your mom has been she has been
Speaker 2: hit and miss with it. I think she'll be there
Speaker 2: tonight because tonight women's gymnastics individual all around and Simone
Speaker 2: Biles is a part of it. And so your mom has,
Speaker 2: you know, a very defined rooting interest, much like Issa
Speaker 2: Ray at the Emmys a few years ago rooting for
Speaker 2: everyone black. And so there's a real investment in some
Speaker 2: owne biles success. Uh. And so I I just love it.
Speaker 2: I love it and I and here's the other thing,
Speaker 2: this is not even the part that I love the most.
Speaker 2: Track and field is amazing. And when we get past
Speaker 2: the week of swimming, swimming's cool. But you guys, know,
Speaker 2: I have my gripes with swimming, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: did you see Delanza that my courageous swimming take from
Speaker 2: years ago that I, you know, revisited a week and
Speaker 2: a half ago. You know, once again Nick Wright's idea
Speaker 2: stolen by a Twitter Charlatan. Did you see my exact
Speaker 2: take go viral?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know. I can't remember what account it
Speaker 3: was from, but I did see something about like the
Speaker 3: short swimming pool hoax or whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh you saw. Oh I didn't see that. Oh that's
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. So I am two things stolen.
Speaker 2: So well, somebody super viral tweet was like, hey, the
Speaker 2: metal counts and in the Olympics is nonsense because swimmers
Speaker 2: get to do the same length but different uh you know,
Speaker 2: different strokes, And they used my exact example. They were like,
Speaker 2: how many golds do you think Yousain Bolt would have
Speaker 2: if you had the one hundred meter dash, the one
Speaker 2: hundred meters side straddle, one hundred meter run backwards. I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's my take, guys, that's my take. That is flat plagiarism.
Speaker 2: Now the short swimming pool thing, here's the thing. I
Speaker 2: don't mind that going viral elsewhere because someone else can
Speaker 2: take the heat on that one, like I'm not the
Speaker 2: I don't need I don't need I don't need China,
Speaker 2: you know, and mad at me for exposing the potential
Speaker 2: fraud of the swimming cube. All right, demon's speaking of swimming,
Speaker 2: Let's get to the show. Here's what missed the cut.
Speaker 2: The greatest distant swimming swimmer of all time, Katie Ledeci,
Speaker 2: went to record her tying eighth gold. Dylan Reyola, who
Speaker 2: worked with Patrick Mahomes and his trainer this offseason, who
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes calls his little cousin, is cosplaying Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: And I've got to tell you, I think it's a
Speaker 2: brilliant idea. I think that this absolutely will help his
Speaker 2: draft stock. And I think the shades, the hair, the look,
Speaker 2: all of it. Five out of five, Well done, sir,
Speaker 2: And Team USA defeats Nadole and Alcarez. I gotta tell you,
Speaker 2: I was not rooting for Team USA in that spot.
Speaker 2: I was rooting for Nadal and Alcarez. I wanted to
Speaker 2: see them continuing to, you know, go through this tournament.
Speaker 2: But all right, speaking of the speaking of the Olympics,
Speaker 2: demand let's go to US versus South Sudan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Team USA cruise through South Sudane yesterday. Lebron
Speaker 3: and Katie both performed well. But for this being the
Speaker 3: best team, there's sure seems to be a lot of problems.
Speaker 3: And like Tatum finally got to play but scored four points,
Speaker 3: My guy Steph looked pretty gas, Anthony Davis has banged up,
Speaker 3: and Embiid was binched. I think again, so for this
Speaker 3: being like the greatest Team USA team, why is this
Speaker 3: is a lot of problems? What's going on there?
Speaker 2: So I don't really think I think problems is overstating it.
Speaker 2: They've played two games that weren't exhibitions. They blew out
Speaker 2: their opponents both times. Now they didn't cover in South
Speaker 2: Study and I think they were like almost thirty point favorites.
Speaker 2: But I also so in nineteen ninety two, the original
Speaker 2: Dream Team, there were I know there was a tweet
Speaker 2: out there going viral that said everyone aside from the
Speaker 2: US team had nine the whole world essentially in those
Speaker 2: Olympics outside of Team USA had nine players that played
Speaker 2: in the NBA. But that was misleading because five of
Speaker 2: those nine as of those Olympics had yet to play
Speaker 2: in the NBA, so you can't really compare because you
Speaker 2: don't know who in these Olympics that haven't played in
Speaker 2: wood the whole world in ninety two, outside of Team USA,
Speaker 2: had four guys who had played a single minute in
Speaker 2: the NBA, and one or two of the four had
Speaker 2: literally played fewer than two NBA games. So it was
Speaker 2: Tony Koukoach and a couple others. Is it as of
Speaker 2: this moment the takeout Team USA. There are sixty two
Speaker 2: guys in the other eleven teams who have played in
Speaker 2: the NBA. The game is more global, the game is better,
Speaker 2: the talent is higher, all of it. So it absolutely,
Speaker 2: to me is reasonable to believe, given where all of
Speaker 2: these guys are in their careers compared to where everyone
Speaker 2: was in nineteen n two on that Dream Team, that
Speaker 2: this is the best Team USA ever. But also they're
Speaker 2: gonna have their work cut out for them. Also, speaking
Speaker 2: of age in the way athletes have changed, Levitard pointed
Speaker 2: this out yesterday in part I'm gonna point it out fully.
Speaker 2: So Larry Bird in the ninety two Dream Team was
Speaker 2: there because he was Larry Bird, but he was not
Speaker 2: an effective player. Anymore. He literally wore a back brace.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I've told you this, Demanse,
Speaker 2: but this kind of shows you how much the NBA
Speaker 2: world has changed in the last thirty years. Do you know,
Speaker 2: have I ever told you how Larry Bird hurt his
Speaker 2: back like the injury that essentially ended his career. Larry
Speaker 2: Bird hurt his back because he was repaving his own
Speaker 2: driveway and fell down. Think about that. Maybe the greatest
Speaker 2: basketball player in the world at that point in time
Speaker 2: needed a driveway repaved, and he's like, well, I guess
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. And he hurt his back repaving
Speaker 2: his driveway, and he was never the same.
Speaker 3: As solid exactly.
Speaker 2: It's like Indiana, gonna drink some beers and repave my driveway.
Speaker 2: But here's why I mention it. Larry Bird in the
Speaker 2: ninety two Olympics was younger than Lebron right now. That's
Speaker 2: not surprising. Steph right now and Kevin Durant right now.
Speaker 2: So the three best guys on the team, and Stephan
Speaker 2: KD look essentially as good as they've ever looked or
Speaker 2: close to it, are older than Larry Bird was for
Speaker 2: the ninety two Dream Team. So all of those things
Speaker 2: are you know, factors or you know, kind of different
Speaker 2: little nuances of this team. I think Kurr has done
Speaker 2: a really good job. I also think the Tatum thing
Speaker 2: is wild. Like, let me ask you this question and
Speaker 2: then we'll talk Tatum, who do you think is having
Speaker 2: a better US men's basketball Olympic experience? Jason Tatum or
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's probably Jen.
Speaker 2: It's Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown gets to be like, you
Speaker 2: guys snub me because of Nike. I'm gonna hang out
Speaker 2: with Kars, buy a bunch of Chanelle bags and send
Speaker 2: out tweets. Meanwhile, Tatum has to sit there and get
Speaker 2: a coach's decision D and P and then play seventeen minutes,
Speaker 2: play them poorly, Derek White out, you're cooking, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: and embeed. And so here's the thing. This is. This is,
Speaker 2: by the way, the argument against twelve stars is what
Speaker 2: we're seeing right now. The argument that what you should
Speaker 2: do is have eight guys you love, eight guys that
Speaker 2: are gonna get huge minutes, and then two specialists and
Speaker 2: two good vibes bench mob guys, and they're like that
Speaker 2: is because we're now in a spot where now, I
Speaker 2: guess the argument against that argument is, had you done that,
Speaker 2: Embiid would have definitively been one of the eight guys
Speaker 2: you love and you're relying on. And he has been bad.
Speaker 2: He has been you know what I mean he is.
Speaker 2: He has been flatly bad, and he's gonna evidently start
Speaker 2: the next game.
Speaker 3: Show.
Speaker 2: I am. I really want to believe in Embiid in
Speaker 2: the Sixers, and part of that is my own personal
Speaker 2: bias because because my buddy runs the team and he
Speaker 2: I think Darryl is a brilliant general manager, and I
Speaker 2: have massive respect for the fact that during the KDIE
Speaker 2: Warriors era, the whole Western Conference kind of was like, Eh,
Speaker 2: we're gonna punt on competing right now and try to
Speaker 2: set ourselves up for the post KD Warriors era, and
Speaker 2: Daryl was like, no, we're going for it, and they
Speaker 2: had him on the ropes. So I respect that, and
Speaker 2: I think he deserves to eventually win a championship. And
Speaker 2: they got Paul George, but man, Embiid has been a
Speaker 2: tough one. And then there's Tatum, which is I don't
Speaker 2: even like his quote. I'm gonna read you a Tatum quote.
Speaker 2: Let me pull it up real quick. He had a
Speaker 2: quote about, you know what the Olympics have, what he's
Speaker 2: going through, and what the last couple months have been.
Speaker 2: And it's a telling quote and an interesting quote where
Speaker 2: he says, quote, it's a unique situation, and it's not
Speaker 2: about one individual player a competitor, and you wants to play, obviously,
Speaker 2: but I'm not here to make a story about myself.
Speaker 2: You win a championship, new contract, NBA two K, twenty
Speaker 2: five cover Sports Illustrated. So after all of this, it's
Speaker 2: definitely a humbling experience. But what is so unique about
Speaker 2: the Tatum thing is in the last two months he
Speaker 2: has won a championship, got the biggest contract in NBA history,
Speaker 2: and been you know, his on Team USA, which is
Speaker 2: a prohibited favorite to win the goal. And I truly
Speaker 2: believe if two months ago you had one hundred NBA
Speaker 2: fans make their list in order one through ten, the
Speaker 2: top ten NBA players, and if today you had those
Speaker 2: same hundred fans make a top ten of the top
Speaker 2: ten NBA players, that Tatum somehow has moved down the rankings.
Speaker 2: He certainly hasn't moved up in winning a championship and
Speaker 2: being on maybe the most talented Olympic team ever has
Speaker 2: actually kind of hurt his standing in the eyes of folks.
Speaker 2: If we're just talking about who's the best, Like prior
Speaker 2: to the NBA Finals, Demanse, don't you think most people
Speaker 2: in their rankings would have had Tatum ahead of Kevin Durant?
Speaker 2: I do. It's like, man, Tatum's the best player on
Speaker 2: a sixty four win team, Like, I think most people
Speaker 2: would have had Tatum ahead of KD right now this moment.
Speaker 2: Do you think people would still have Tatum ahead of KD?
Speaker 3: Well the four point like the DMP like was I
Speaker 3: don't want to say it was a coach heir, but
Speaker 3: like he has no control over that. But with the
Speaker 3: four point game and him still not performing after he
Speaker 3: gets in, I could see him dropping. But I think
Speaker 3: it would be a little recency bias. I guess that
Speaker 3: that term you use.
Speaker 2: I no, that's that's fair. That's definitely that is the
Speaker 2: exact right use of the term. But it's also the finals.
Speaker 2: It's also felt like, man, you weren't you weren't at
Speaker 2: your It's a weird thing. So I just don't know
Speaker 2: how this is all landing with Tatum. Here's what I
Speaker 2: do know. If I'm Steve Kerr okay, and I am
Speaker 2: moving forward once we get to the games that really matter,
Speaker 2: my starting five is do I want? Yeah? If I
Speaker 2: If I'm trying to have my best five, my starting
Speaker 2: five is Steph, Drew Lebron, kd Anthony Davis. Those are
Speaker 2: my five. My guys off the bench are booker Ant,
Speaker 2: Derek White and Bam. And my we'll call you if
Speaker 2: we need you guys are Haliburton, Embiid and Tatum. That's
Speaker 2: just what it is for me right now. If you're
Speaker 2: in a spot once you get to the metal round
Speaker 2: where it's winner go home, those are the guys that
Speaker 2: to me. And Derek White's been excellent. Man, he has
Speaker 2: been excellent and it knows his exact role and is
Speaker 2: doing exactly what you want. Drew Holliday can get out
Speaker 2: there and play lockdown defense and not need any shots.
Speaker 2: Step obviously had a really bad game yesterday, but it's
Speaker 2: to me that's nothing to worry about. And Lebron and
Speaker 2: KD have been absolutely brilliant. All right, let's just ask
Speaker 2: this first follow up demonsay and then move on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you think that Lebron. Uh, while you work on
Speaker 3: that or hold that off?
Speaker 2: Sorry?
Speaker 3: Do you think that Lebron is letting his great his
Speaker 3: beard grow out with all the grays to show how
Speaker 3: old he is and how dominating he could still be
Speaker 3: in the game.
Speaker 2: So I, I actually do. So this was my take
Speaker 2: if you remember. You don't remember, but the audience might.
Speaker 2: I don't say that bad, but you and I weren't
Speaker 2: doing this. You and I weren't doing this. Go ahead
Speaker 2: about what am I gonna say?
Speaker 3: Go ahead, you're gonna say something about You're not gonna
Speaker 3: say anything about his beard. It's it's not about it's
Speaker 3: not about how Yeah, he's just showing and like, oh
Speaker 3: look at all these young guys. I got this this
Speaker 3: big gray beard, and I'm still dominating the game. I
Speaker 3: remember exactly what you said, but I remember, I remember
Speaker 3: the take, But go ahead.
Speaker 2: So that was so the the first game in the
Speaker 2: Bubble after the whole pandemic layoff, Lebron shows up in
Speaker 2: the Bubble with the greyest beard you've ever seen from him,
Speaker 2: and I felt that was intentional, uh, because I also
Speaker 2: think we know from how he played in the Bubble,
Speaker 2: Lebron probably physically felt better than he had felt in years,
Speaker 2: because he had this month's long layoff, and I thought
Speaker 2: it was a psychological thing of I'm a mess with
Speaker 2: these guys, and I'm gonna intentionally remind them I'm the
Speaker 2: oldest guy out there. By the way. It is crazy.
Speaker 2: He was the old man four years ago in the
Speaker 2: bubble in August of twenty twenty, and he's still the
Speaker 2: old man doing it now. But yeah, so I do
Speaker 2: think that's a thing. I absolutely do. Do you think
Speaker 2: that's a thing.
Speaker 3: So do you see James Harden going a graveyard in
Speaker 3: about five years? Well, he will be in the five years.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: I you're given You're not giving James years.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not giving James old James Harden. James Hard
Speaker 2: turn thirty three, James Harden turns he turns thirty five
Speaker 2: this month. No, I'm not giving him five more years,
Speaker 2: James Harden. I think that this contract James Harden just
Speaker 2: signed could be his last contract, this two year, seventy
Speaker 2: million or whatever. I just don't think he's a guy
Speaker 2: that's gonna, you know, into his late late thirties. All right,
Speaker 2: let's go on to Aaron Rodgers speaking of you know,
Speaker 2: guys in their forties. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So since we last talked about Rogers, he's gotten in
Speaker 3: the spats with his ride receiver one his offensive line,
Speaker 3: and now now word at Jets camp is that he
Speaker 3: won't participate in preseason at all. So that means that
Speaker 3: by the time Week one comes around, it'll have been
Speaker 3: over six hundred days since Rogers completed a pass in
Speaker 3: the NFL. So how many units are replacing on San
Speaker 3: Francisco minus five and a half in Week seventeen or
Speaker 3: Week one? Sorry?
Speaker 2: Week one? Well, listen, I don't know that I'm gonna
Speaker 2: place a big bet on that because and I'm sure
Speaker 2: we'll talk about it later, but I don't know. If
Speaker 2: you see rock party this camp. Uh, he's had a
Speaker 2: bit of struggles that that that game does feel like
Speaker 2: the under for me. Uh in the Niners offense against
Speaker 2: the Jets offense. Uh. And geez, Louise man, someone's gonna
Speaker 2: make a compilation of this thing and making it look
Speaker 2: like I have a coke problem. I am trying desperately
Speaker 2: not to sneeze, and I just keep like scratching my nose,
Speaker 2: But I look like like Trump's kid on a late
Speaker 2: night interview, just just going crazy and so uh, I
Speaker 2: just I look like it. Uh as I was saying
Speaker 2: the well, no, oh, well that's a different thing. So
Speaker 2: that's you know what fair eat fair and balance? What? Yeah?
Speaker 3: What what is I guess, you know.
Speaker 2: Recovering the other seemingly in the midst Also, I think
Speaker 2: it's different forms of uh you know, uh different. It
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. Uh, smoke versus sniff doesn't matter. Not the point.
Speaker 2: The point is I am having an allergy attack in
Speaker 2: this room and on YouTube. I'm sure it looks terrible.
Speaker 2: Okay to the Rogers part. Uh, I think him not
Speaker 2: playing in preseasons crazy. I don't get it. I don't
Speaker 2: understand why he wouldn't. Last year they played him in preseason.
Speaker 2: He's now even further removed. I would think something, right,
Speaker 2: but right, it doesn't mean if he's healthy, which they
Speaker 2: claim he is, and he does look like he's healthy,
Speaker 2: I don't understand why he wouldn't play even if, and
Speaker 2: this might sound dumb, even if you're just gonna call
Speaker 2: running plays just so he can take some snaps from
Speaker 2: the center in real time, he can call out protections,
Speaker 2: he can communicate in the huddle. All that stuff that.
Speaker 2: I just don't think you want your first live snaps
Speaker 2: since you popped your achilles to be against the Niners
Speaker 2: front in Week one on national TV. That seems crazy
Speaker 2: to me. What asked me the follow up about the
Speaker 2: Jets totals win?
Speaker 3: So, yeah, how many more units do you want to
Speaker 3: place for Jets under nine and a half wins? I
Speaker 3: feel like you were hesitating.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a big bet. No, that's gonna be
Speaker 2: a big bet. The the more I the more that
Speaker 2: comes out of Jets camp, the more I'm convinced this
Speaker 2: is not a team that's gonna win double digit games. Uh,
Speaker 2: and so I am so. I yeah that when we
Speaker 2: do our post vacation in August and we do our
Speaker 2: season gambling show where we do all the over unders, everything,
Speaker 2: we will have a real investment in the Jets underachieving,
Speaker 2: just like we did last year. By the way, in
Speaker 2: investing in the Jets underachieving. Now, I understand Rogers popped
Speaker 2: his achilles, So that was kind of a you know,
Speaker 2: a gimme bet, But we're gonna be doing that all right.
Speaker 2: Let's go to other training camp stuff.
Speaker 3: Demonse, Oh yeah, so everybody's super opinionated during training camp Monday,
Speaker 3: Jj McCarthy's a bust on Tuesday's cake. Sam Darnold to
Speaker 3: the curb, brock Party is getting getting caught in that
Speaker 3: throwing picks in throwing picks in camp cycle? Are you
Speaker 3: going to wait until a preseason to read and say
Speaker 3: anything across the league? I think you've been going a
Speaker 3: little crazy on Party already.
Speaker 2: But well, I've been going crazy on Party again. I'm
Speaker 2: just the only honest man in sports media would seem
Speaker 2: this is the timeline for Brock Party. He gives an
Speaker 2: interview to Mike Silver, saying basically, I'm done being conservative
Speaker 2: in the last year when we had a lead. I
Speaker 2: take my foot off the gas. This year, I want
Speaker 2: to be more like Tom Brady. I want to step
Speaker 2: on people's throat. The first practice after that interview, he
Speaker 2: throws three picks. The next day's practice, after starting seven
Speaker 2: for seven with a couple of touchdowns, he has an
Speaker 2: eight pass stretch where he throws four interceptions, has two
Speaker 2: dropped interceptions, one completed checkdown, and one in eat pass.
Speaker 2: That's noteworthy, now, is it? Is it?
Speaker 3: Do you pan.
Speaker 2: Y? Yeah? But it isn't. Of course it is noteworthy. Uh.
Speaker 2: And the to me, I think JJ McCarthy is going
Speaker 2: to be the starter in Minnesota. I am interested in
Speaker 2: the quarterback battle in Pittsburgh. That to me is super
Speaker 2: noteworthy and interesting. Uh. And I think Russ missing time
Speaker 2: gives Justin a real chance uh to win that one.
Speaker 2: And I there's a real battle I think with the
Speaker 2: Giants is a sneaky battle for the season where I
Speaker 2: think Daniel Jones, because he has an injury guarantee if
Speaker 2: he plays poorly, could be replaced by Drew Locke. There's
Speaker 2: obviously a real battle going over Vegas and Denver as well.
Speaker 2: And yeah, no, go ahead, Denver, it's Jared said.
Speaker 3: Nick and uh and and Zach Wilson is in there too.
Speaker 3: I think they're saying that he's been doing well in camp.
Speaker 2: I don't think Zach Wilson has a chance, but I
Speaker 2: do think it'll be Nixon Stidham. And in Vegas it's
Speaker 2: Gardner and Aidan O'Connell. So those are the things in
Speaker 2: training camp I'm most interested in. All Right, let's go
Speaker 2: to the Giants.
Speaker 3: All right, So HBO finished there behind the scenes looked
Speaker 3: at Giants offseason. One potential takeaway is New York is
Speaker 3: going to turn things away and turn things around. Another
Speaker 3: potential takeaway is people are saying that the average football
Speaker 3: fantasy player might be able to be a bit better
Speaker 3: NFL GM, What lessons have you learned from when you're
Speaker 3: the GM of Lebron's Vegas team? If you got a
Speaker 3: photoshop for those watching?
Speaker 2: Will you too? Man? Oh? Hard Knicks practice with the
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Oh that's pretty good. I like that. Here's
Speaker 2: what I've learned. Don't let cameras into your facility unless
Speaker 2: you have immaculate job security and a R in the
Speaker 2: exact same page with the owner. I feel bad for
Speaker 2: Joe Shane. I also think this has not been a
Speaker 2: great look for Brian Dable, and of course they're just
Speaker 2: open disgust from a coaching staff standpoint at Daniel Jones
Speaker 2: is a tough look for him as well. Last year
Speaker 2: I nailed all five Hall of Famers on this very show.
Speaker 2: The Hall of Fame game is tonight. We see if
Speaker 2: a full year out I can nail the next class.
Speaker 2: We do that next. What's Right? All right? Welcome back
Speaker 2: in What's Right with the great episode two fifty two.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the NFL Hall of Fame Demonsey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so football is back tonight. Caleb Williams does not playing,
Speaker 3: so who cares? Sorry all those Tyson badget fans out there.
Speaker 3: Something we do care about is the Pro Football One
Speaker 3: of them, the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Last year,
Speaker 3: you accurately predicted the Hall of Fame class. So here's
Speaker 3: your chance to do it again this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, last year, once we got to the twenty
Speaker 2: five semifinalists on this show, we tried to narrow it
Speaker 2: down to the ten finalists, and then we said, if
Speaker 2: it were up to us, that Andre Johnson, Julius Peppers,
Speaker 2: Patrick Willis, DWIGHTE Frani, and Devin Hester would be our five.
Speaker 2: I remember a lot of the reaction to that. Was
Speaker 2: the most notable name that I did not have on
Speaker 2: there that people thought I was insane for leaving out
Speaker 2: was Antonio Gates, who was a first time you know,
Speaker 2: a guy who was eligible for the first time. I
Speaker 2: ended up I was again, I don't sound arrogant here,
Speaker 2: I don't mean to, but I ended up nailing all five.
Speaker 2: I was a little shocked myself that I did it,
Speaker 2: but I did. So now we have to say, this
Speaker 2: will be a little harder because we don't have the
Speaker 2: finalists yet, but we you know, last year we did
Speaker 2: it once we had the semi finalists. So here are
Speaker 2: the guys who last year were semi finalists and did
Speaker 2: not even become finalists. So it doesn't mean they're eliminated.
Speaker 2: But last year they didn't even make the final ten,
Speaker 2: let alone the final fior. I'm sorry, last year they
Speaker 2: didn't even make the final fifteen or so, let alone
Speaker 2: the final five. And Kwam Bolden, Tiki Barber who is
Speaker 2: not a Hall of Famer, London Fletcher who is not
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer, Eddie George who is not a
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, James Harrison who might be a Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer, Robert Mathis who might be a Hall of Famer,
Speaker 2: Steve Smith Senior who might be a Hall of Famer,
Speaker 2: Ricky Waters who is not a Hall of Famer, Vince
Speaker 2: will Fork who is not a Hall of Famer, and
Speaker 2: hinz Ward who I do not feel as a Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer at all, but a lot of the media
Speaker 2: loves him. He's been a semifinalist eight times and might
Speaker 2: be a Hall of Famer. But again, those were just
Speaker 2: the semifinalists. Here are the guys who were finalists but
Speaker 2: did not make it. Eric Allen in his eighteenth year
Speaker 2: on the ballot, Jared Allen who has really good numbers
Speaker 2: but is a tough one because the team us on
Speaker 2: my Chiefs primarily were not good. Willie Anderson, who I
Speaker 2: think will make the Hall of Fame one day, jarr
Speaker 2: Evans who I think will make the Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: one day, Antonio Gates who is going to make the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame soon, Rodney Harrison tough one, Tory Holt
Speaker 2: gotta get in at some point, Fred Taylor, Reggie Wayne
Speaker 2: who I think gets in at some point, and Darren Woodson.
Speaker 2: So here is the key to it. Who are the
Speaker 2: new guys who were not on the ballot last time
Speaker 2: who can take a spot? Eli Manning first time on
Speaker 2: the ballot, Luke Keikley first time on the ballot, Marshall
Speaker 2: Yonda first time on the ballot, Marshawn Lynch first time
Speaker 2: on the ballot, Terrell Suggs first time on the ballot,
Speaker 2: Darren Sprawls won't make it, Joe Staley won't make it.
Speaker 2: A Key to Leave won't make it. The late Demarius
Speaker 2: Thomas no chance of making it. Claim Matthews won't make it,
Speaker 2: Ryan Khalil won't make it. No Cooch Matthews, No he's not.
Speaker 2: He's not a Hall of Famer. I don't think. So
Speaker 2: here is what I think happens. I think that Eli
Speaker 2: is going to be a first ballot guy. I don't
Speaker 2: know that I agree with it, but I you win
Speaker 2: two Super Bowls as a quarterback in New York, both
Speaker 2: over Tom Brady. I think he will make it first ballot.
Speaker 2: I do not think anyone else in this class makes
Speaker 2: it first ballot. Keithley, Yanda, and Suggs I think are
Speaker 2: all eventual Hall of Famers, but I don't think they
Speaker 2: will make it first ballot. Keithley gets helped by the
Speaker 2: fact that Patrick Willis got in very similar career Arcs
Speaker 2: so dominant short career. Suggs I think eventually gets in,
Speaker 2: but is going to have to wait. And Yonda, I
Speaker 2: don't think he can get in before jar R Evans.
Speaker 2: So I think right now next year's class will be
Speaker 2: Antonio Gates, Tory Holt, finally getting in, Eli, Manning, Willie Anderson.
Speaker 2: That's four guys, and you know what I think. I
Speaker 2: think Suggs may be does get in first ballot and
Speaker 2: Terrell Suggs that is again I'm not gonna be held
Speaker 2: to that, but that is where I stand right now now.
Speaker 2: Bill Barnwell, yesterday I haven't read the article yet, came
Speaker 2: out with who he thinks is going to make it.
Speaker 2: Oh wait a second, Oh well, I'm going I have
Speaker 2: to adjust my take because there's somebody on this list
Speaker 2: that I didn't realize was the first year eligible. Barnwell
Speaker 2: projecting next year's class will be Eli who I said,
Speaker 2: Antonio Gates, who I just said, Terrell Suggs who I said,
Speaker 2: Jared Allen who I don't agree with Bill on that,
Speaker 2: And then he had Adam Vina Terry in his first
Speaker 2: year eligible. I didn't realize Vinit Terry's eligible this coming year.
Speaker 2: I'm sure Barnwell's right, then then he will get in.
Speaker 2: If Vinitary's eligible, then he'll get in, and I think
Speaker 2: Suggs will have to wait. I think the first time
Speaker 2: will be Eli and Vinitary, and then I think it'll
Speaker 2: be Willie Anderson, Antonio Gates, and Tory Holt. That's my
Speaker 2: projection for next year's Hall of Fame class. UH and
Speaker 2: Gabe says he doesn't know kickers were eligible. He didn't
Speaker 2: like it. Hey, listen, in my lifetime, there's two kickers
Speaker 2: that are Hall of Fame worthy, Vinitary and Justin Tucker.
Speaker 2: Those are the two. Uh and Vinitary is the most
Speaker 2: clutch kicks in NFL history. Justin Tucker is the best
Speaker 2: kicker in NFL history. Those two guys should get in
Speaker 2: demons before we move on to the game. You have
Speaker 2: any thoughts, anything you want to say, I see it.
Speaker 2: You're furrowing up.
Speaker 3: No, I just I was confusing Justin Tucker with another
Speaker 3: I was confusing him with your kicker for the Chiefs
Speaker 3: for some reason. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh, Harrison Butker, Yeah, okay, sounds yeah Buckers No, no, no, Ellisen.
Speaker 2: Bucker is an excellent kicker, and he's made a bunch
Speaker 2: of clutch kicks. But in order to be and again
Speaker 2: maybe I'll be wrong, maybe Minitary won't make it, But
Speaker 2: in order for a kicker to make the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: you kind of have to be the goat of something.
Speaker 2: And Military has the most points in l history, played
Speaker 2: forever and hit all those clutch kicks to win Super Bowls.
Speaker 2: Now again, I mean, you can say the Butcker hit,
Speaker 2: you know, hit big field goals on the Chiefs run.
Speaker 2: But he's not that guy. And Tucker is the most
Speaker 2: deadly kicker in NFL history. All right, let's play. Nick
Speaker 2: makes it right.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So there's a lot of broken things in sports
Speaker 3: right now. Luckily we have the man to make them
Speaker 3: right and Nick right. So the first off, we got
Speaker 3: a three v three basketball. It's fast paced, exciting hoops.
Speaker 3: The only issue is Jimmer for Debt is our star
Speaker 3: player and we're down two YEA qualifying and other FEBA
Speaker 3: commitments overlap with parts of the NBA season, which is
Speaker 3: why we don't see NBA players out there. How do
Speaker 3: we make this right?
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty simple, and I don't need them
Speaker 2: to practice together or qualify together. I don't need any
Speaker 2: of it. I think that at next year's Olympics, this
Speaker 2: is what we do. If we're that we have our
Speaker 2: twelve guys who are on the Olympic team, and then
Speaker 2: three bench mob type role player guys who don't care
Speaker 2: if they play or not. Once we have the exhibition
Speaker 2: season of the actual Olympic basketball, we figure out of
Speaker 2: those twelve stars on our Olympic team, the three that
Speaker 2: are gonna be the odd men out this year, it
Speaker 2: would have been Embiid, Tatum, Halliburton, and we say good news, fellas,
Speaker 2: good news, bad news. Bad news is you're not gonna
Speaker 2: be on the Olympic team anymore for five on five.
Speaker 2: Good new news is you're gonna return us to glory
Speaker 2: in three on three and you three guys are gonna
Speaker 2: go dominate three on three basketball.
Speaker 3: That's is that your pick for your three.
Speaker 2: Three three guys who are on the again. The thing
Speaker 2: with the three v three is it's twos and ones.
Speaker 2: So threes, which are two's are actually at a huge,
Speaker 2: huge premium because they're worth double. So that's why, like
Speaker 2: you have a guy like Jimmer for that. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I think Haliburton, Tatum, and Embiid would go ahead and
Speaker 2: win the three on three tournament. So that's my that's
Speaker 2: my answer, all right.
Speaker 3: Next, So, as we talked about last week, kickoffs are
Speaker 3: changing this year. Another wrinkle on side kicks are all
Speaker 3: but dead. Now only only trailing teams in the fourth
Speaker 3: quarter are allowed to try them, and they also need
Speaker 3: to announce that they're trying at first. Is there anything
Speaker 3: that we could do to make this right, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, what do you mean.
Speaker 3: Like onside kicks are already super hard to execute. It's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you got to definitely go and tell us you're doing
Speaker 3: them now.
Speaker 2: But well, I mean, listen, they I mean they basically
Speaker 2: tell them they're doing it now when they as long
Speaker 2: as I'm surprising, you know when the other team's doing
Speaker 2: it because of how they line up. Listen. I liked
Speaker 2: the fourth and seventeen suggestion to replace on side kicks,
Speaker 2: which is, you have the ball on your own thirty,
Speaker 2: you have a fourth and seventeen. If you get it,
Speaker 2: you keep the ball. If not, the other team gets
Speaker 2: it wherever that play ended. That's like a I like
Speaker 2: that idea. I don't think I think it's too revolutionary
Speaker 2: for the NFL. I don't really care about on side kicks,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you. I do like the new
Speaker 2: kickoff rule, and I think the new kickoff rule is
Speaker 2: going to expose well coached and poorly coached teams. So
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see that. All right, let's go to
Speaker 2: the next topic. Demos.
Speaker 3: Uh. Everyone agrees Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in football.
Speaker 3: So here, Bobby Witt Junior has now answered the conversation
Speaker 3: with the best player in baseball.
Speaker 2: Hit four ninety in July, hit four ninety four ninety
Speaker 2: five twenty eight thirty splits for a month.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, it's not fair that Kansas City is
Speaker 3: home to the two best players in the sports. So
Speaker 3: to level the playing field, how do we make it? Right?
Speaker 2: All right, we don't need to level the playing field.
Speaker 2: Here's my question, city by city major American sports. And
Speaker 2: I'm just not gonna include hockey because I don't know
Speaker 2: enough about hockey. But Kansas City just flat wins if
Speaker 2: it's your best two guys, even though we only have
Speaker 2: two teams, like who like, let's just go major cities, right,
Speaker 2: So for Houston, it'd be CJ. Stroud and Altuve or CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud and Shingoon. I don't know they're out. Dallas would
Speaker 2: be Luca and Mica. Pretty good. Who wouldn't new your calf?
Speaker 2: You got ten teams who would new your calf? Judge
Speaker 2: and all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, Judge and Brunt,
Speaker 2: I think is right.
Speaker 3: I thought wet we were staying in sports, but yeah,
Speaker 3: you had said, Luca, we're going all on the outside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the football, basketball, baseball, Miami would have Jimmy
Speaker 2: Butler and Tyreek h saying no, no, no, no, we're
Speaker 2: not We're not doing that. I said. The three major
Speaker 2: American team sports, uh L A L A is.
Speaker 3: Close and Bron. I think it is what it would Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean that's close for Mahomes, Mahomes, Bobby Witt Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: would have t J. Watt and Paul Skeens.
Speaker 3: Close. Then you're saying Mahomes is better than Lebron in
Speaker 3: their respective sports, I.
Speaker 2: Think right now, yeah, of course, well okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: right now, Uh who would the Bay Area have Christian
Speaker 2: McCaffrey and Steph That's pretty good, that's pretty good. Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: but yeah, we have the okay soup, we would have
Speaker 2: the We would have the best duo of any of
Speaker 2: anybody's crazy man Daniel. Daniel just totally embarrassed himself by
Speaker 2: texting Jokic and Pat Sertan the second Daniel get out
Speaker 2: of here and Patsertan is a really good corner and
Speaker 2: he but they are not. Kansas City's second team of
Speaker 2: Kelsey Salvi Prez would would go toe to toe with
Speaker 2: Jokic Patzer Tangingior, give me break? Uh? And so, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean Kansas City. We got the best duo. I
Speaker 2: love it all right? Last one demande.
Speaker 3: Reason has been committed. The House of Dragons season finale
Speaker 3: was leaked online earlier this week. How do we make
Speaker 3: it right? That's so?
Speaker 2: Why do people do just say listen? I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I've avoided spoilers, so I'm excited. Listen. I've really
Speaker 2: enjoyed the season. I'm bummed it to only eight episodes.
Speaker 2: Back when I was a kid, TV shows would be
Speaker 2: twenty three episodes, and then they recently became twelve or thirteen,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, it's like, no, they're ten,
Speaker 2: and now some seasons are eight episodes. That's disappointing.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that the season finale was coming up
Speaker 2: until last week's episode, when they were like the second
Speaker 2: to last episode, Like, what is going on? The season
Speaker 2: just started? But I've avoided the spoilers. All right, we'll
Speaker 2: do some listener questions wrap up the show next. What's right?
Speaker 2: All right? Welcome back in? What's right with Nick? Right?
Speaker 2: Demon's a let's do some listener questions.
Speaker 3: Hey, so, David mckel rearing asked Nick, which Lebron nickname
Speaker 3: is your favorite? Captain Lamerica or the whole Testament.
Speaker 2: I like Captain Lamerica. That's pretty funny. The old Testament
Speaker 2: I hadn't seen. I think the listen. I gotta tell you,
Speaker 2: the picture of Lebron holding the flag with the boat
Speaker 2: going down the scene is pretty was pretty dope. And
Speaker 2: then like some of these pictures of Lebron are just
Speaker 2: unintentionally funny when Coco Goff's doing the interview and he's
Speaker 2: just standing behind her like these they're legitimately funny pictures, man,
Speaker 2: and he is really leaning into this whole you know, this,
Speaker 2: this whole experience, and part of it's dope. Part of
Speaker 2: it's sad because, as I said to Colin yesterday, it's
Speaker 2: on the board that these Olympic games are the last
Speaker 2: super meaningful games of Lebron's basketball life, that the Lakers
Speaker 2: are just not gonna be competing for championships. And Lebron's
Speaker 2: been excellent, Durant's been excellent, Lebron's been excellent, It's been
Speaker 2: great to watch, all right.
Speaker 3: Next, Matt versus Money, question for Nick, and question for
Speaker 3: Nick and Alcarez. Question for Nick, did out has cost
Speaker 3: them the match? How did you feel about Coco's Olympic performance?
Speaker 3: She struggled a bit in mixed doubles, but she was
Speaker 3: trying to carry.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I have not. I've not been as
Speaker 2: locked in. I don't. I don't think it's fair to
Speaker 2: say Alca has cost them the match. I know Coco lost,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't the a lot of the tennis that's
Speaker 2: been going on while I've been prepping for the TV show,
Speaker 2: so I can't really give you fair analysis on that.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the next one.
Speaker 3: Facing Felix said Sugg justin for Nick, sports climbing is
Speaker 3: a must watch.
Speaker 2: Listen. I love these I don't want to say random,
Speaker 2: but these sports that I otherwise wouldn't see. I totally agree.
Speaker 3: Go to aj Aj says, what are your thoughts on
Speaker 3: the Turkish shooter? Who got so? Who got silvery?
Speaker 2: Guys? Awesome? All these other folks have like an eye
Speaker 2: cover and this and that. This dude just comes out there,
Speaker 2: puts his hand in his pocket, no eyewear and just
Speaker 2: nails and just crushes. I love that picture.
Speaker 3: That was awesome. That was awesome.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the last one.
Speaker 3: Justin Pinders said, Hey, Nick, after watching your show, my
Speaker 3: football knowledge grew a thousand times and I feel I
Speaker 3: can rival your basketball knowledge. Now. I want to start
Speaker 3: a pod any tips. I'm a year older than Demon's.
Speaker 2: The only tips are in the beginning of one of
Speaker 2: these things. Do not worry about how many people are listening.
Speaker 2: It's actually to your benefit to not have people listening
Speaker 2: because you just want want to get the reps and
Speaker 2: you just want to get comfortable and figure out what
Speaker 2: you want to do. Like, don't worry about like growing
Speaker 2: subscribers and stuff like that. Uh in the beginning at all.
Speaker 2: Just worry about doing it and do it consistently and
Speaker 2: you'll get better. All right. Other best sports duos uh
Speaker 2: DJ doc Nev says Zion and Cam Jordan for New Orleans.
Speaker 2: I with respect that that's if that is the right list,
Speaker 2: that's a sad list. It's an indictment on the Saints.
Speaker 2: And I like Cam Jordan, but he's one of the
Speaker 2: oldest players in the league. Horton GMR says Elie de
Speaker 2: la Cruise and Burrow. That's not bad. I like, I
Speaker 2: mean Ellie's no Bobby Witt junior, but he's exciting and
Speaker 2: Burrow's awesome. Uh, Carter says Justin Jefferson an ant that's
Speaker 2: pretty good. Uh ledbetter said Luke and Michael. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: the one I came up with for Dallas as well.
Speaker 2: Uh that that could have been a fun you know,
Speaker 2: I keep saying, you know, for the slow summertime we
Speaker 2: do you know this show. I think we said we're
Speaker 2: gonna do like a dog ranking show. We haven't really
Speaker 2: had a slow summertime. This is the Olympics. We've had
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff going on. All right, good show,
Speaker 2: Good job Demansey. I will see you guys on TV
Speaker 2: in a few hours. Enjoy the Hall of Fame game.
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