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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal I'll.

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Speaker 2: That for me. I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 3: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 3: be happy.

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 3: Edith state is that woo woom?

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Speaker 1: And Dan and Tye.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Solid Verbo boys and girls. My

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Speaker 4: name is ty Hildebrandt. That fine gentleman over there, as

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Speaker 4: always Dan Rubinstein the podcast driven by Geico Yes. On

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Speaker 4: today's show, we're gonna be breaking down everything you need

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Speaker 4: to know from National Signing Day twenty twenty two. We're

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Speaker 4: going to be doing that with our good friend of

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Speaker 4: many years, Brandon Hoffman, the national recruiting editor from two

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Speaker 4: four seven Sports. But first, Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good.

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Speaker 5: I would like to point out that what you just

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Speaker 5: said is a lie because there is no way we

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Speaker 5: can cover everything you need to know from National Signing

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Speaker 5: Day because there are one hundred and third teams, which

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Speaker 5: means that there are thousands upon thousands of players that

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Speaker 5: could possibly impact the support in the next few years.

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Speaker 5: And as smart as Brandon is, he doesn't know who's

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Speaker 5: going to impact the sport from every single team. He

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Speaker 5: doesn't know who's gonna get injured. We don't know every

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Speaker 5: single question to ask about every single team. We're gonna

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Speaker 5: do our best. We're gonna do our absolute best to

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Speaker 5: ask about things that we are specifically curious about and

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Speaker 5: try to hit as many schools and issues and situations

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Speaker 5: and players and movers that we possibly can. It is

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Speaker 5: unfair for us to promise that we're gonna give you everything,

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Speaker 5: because we can't.

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Speaker 4: We just cannot.

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Speaker 1: Brown guilty eyes and little white lies.

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Speaker 4: We mentioned the lyric a few shows go, but thank

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Speaker 4: you one and all for joining us.

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Speaker 2: We'll do our.

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Speaker 4: Best to give you the high level talking points as

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Speaker 4: it were about National Signing Day, this of course being

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Speaker 4: signing day numeroal.

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Speaker 5: Dose signing Day regular signing day compared to the early

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Speaker 5: signing Day. I don't even know how to qual either

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Speaker 5: one of these things. Again, we're just doing our best here.

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Speaker 5: We are doing our best here.

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Speaker 5: We're recording this on March, excuse me, February second. Wednesday,

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Speaker 5: February second, on National Signing Day. I would assume in

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Speaker 1: Dan, Hey, that'd be great.

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Speaker 4: We're doing our part here in the off season to

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Speaker 1: Daniel, Yeah, agree.

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Speaker 5: I want to talk recruiting things because this year upon year,

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Speaker 5: recruiting and the stories surrounding recruiting and signing Day become

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Speaker 5: in the current era in which we bathe within college football,

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Speaker 5: between the transfer portal, between the activity of coaches this

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Speaker 4: It is, of course the reason for the season. We

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Speaker 4: bring him back every single year. I don't know how

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Speaker 4: many times we've done this now, but Brandon Hoffman, national

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Speaker 4: to help us break down all things signing Day, recruiting,

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Speaker 4: whatever else is going on in this crazy world of

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Speaker 4: college football. Mister Hoffman, how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm good, guys. This is a tradition unlike any other,

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Speaker 2: including that golf match that goes on in Georgia.

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Speaker 1: I agree that's a random one.

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Speaker 4: I believe that's accurate. So I was curious, how many cycles,

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Speaker 4: if you don't mind me asking, how many cycles of

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Speaker 2: So I covered it you in my early days before

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Speaker 2: year twenty or cycle number twenty. I guess I already

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Speaker 2: started it when those guys started getting offers, But as

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Speaker 2: They were recruiting this running back from the state of

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Speaker 5: Linz in Peterson in those nineteen years. I was going

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Speaker 5: to say, there's now a Power five head coach who

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Speaker 2: In fact, he was so I was part of the

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Speaker 2: But like Greg Biggins retweeted about a kid his dad

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Speaker 2: So that's how old we are. That's it is what it.

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Speaker 1: Is, grizzled old heads.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, an old head who makes Brian McKnight references like

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Speaker 4: So the reason I ask about how many cycles you've

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Speaker 4: there is this perception out there among college football fans,

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Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, Dan and I were having

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Speaker 2: me is where everything changed. Now. On the flip side,

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Speaker 2: I'll say, yeah, you know, none of these nineties office

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Speaker 2: As much as those guys were great, those guys aren't

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Speaker 2: and you know, maybe it's still Toro, Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White.

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Speaker 1: How is it different? What makes it.

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Speaker 2: Jimbo what you got this class, you better win a champion.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how many great recruiting classes the Kirby Smart

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Speaker 2: Well, you just take a look at what Dan Lanny

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Speaker 2: Kirby Smart did this a few years ago, Lane Kifton

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Speaker 2: own staff at Organ. So he fortunately there's a dead period.

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Speaker 2: He coaches a National championship game on a Monday. He's

436
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Speaker 2: back in Eugene on a Tuesday. By Friday, coaches are

437
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Speaker 2: out on the road or they're hosting in home visits.

438
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Speaker 2: So you know, Riley gets to the USC with what

439
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 2: a day after his hire, right when the dead period

440
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Speaker 2: was starting. I'm sorr right when the dead period was lifty,

441
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Speaker 2: whereas Landing's doing two different jobs at a time. But

442
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Speaker 2: you look at kind of their approaches. Riley knew that

443
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Speaker 2: the big thing was the talent on the USC roster,

444
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Speaker 2: so he can focus his attention on the transfer portal,

445
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Speaker 2: and i mean signs a fantastic class of transfers, whereas

446
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 2: Landing's like, hey, this organ brand is hot. By the way,

447
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 2: they also recruit at a national level, and there's not

448
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Speaker 2: the reliance or the need to hit the portal. So

449
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Speaker 2: let's hit those four or five recruits that hadn't sign

450
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Speaker 2: and really go after them. And it's showing that he's

451
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Speaker 2: using those men and he's riding the wave. I mean,

452
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Speaker 2: one of the things that Oregon Twitter did not that

453
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Speaker 2: necessarily the University of Oregon, but Oregon fan Twitter was

454
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Speaker 2: during the Orange Bowl, during the National Championship game, it

455
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Speaker 2: was talking about Dan Lanne Dan Lanning. Now, let's be honest,

456
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Speaker 2: it was more Jordan Davis and you know, steps from

457
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Speaker 2: Bannon and all those other guys, and it was Dan Lanney,

458
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Speaker 2: but he's calling it. So now these kids that are

459
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Speaker 2: following are saying, hey, Dan Lanning, he kind of is

460
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Speaker 2: a g out there, We really should talk to this

461
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Speaker 2: guy and listen to more so if he's pulling that

462
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Speaker 2: kind of effort energy and Organ's going to have a

463
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Speaker 2: top three or four class in the PAC twelve when

464
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Speaker 2: but it felt like half the class left that should

465
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Speaker 2: be sending sugars down the spot the rest of the

466
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Speaker 2: PAC twelve. And then you see what Lincoln Riley did.

467
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Speaker 2: He flips the Monti Jackson or flips relief. Brown gets

468
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Speaker 2: to Monty Jackson back in the boat, gets on branch,

469
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Speaker 2: He brings in all these commits. He flips the twenty

470
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Speaker 2: twenty three kids. Those two, I have a feeling are

471
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Speaker 2: maybe be going head to head in a lot. I

472
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Speaker 2: don't think we're going to see very many Orgon Miami

473
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Speaker 2: battles down the road. We'll see him in twenty twenty two,

474
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Speaker 2: but I think eventually, yes, Mario was going to still

475
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Speaker 2: recruit nationally. Yeah, scan Landa is going to really recruit national.

476
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Speaker 2: But right now there's a rivalry there because of Mario.

477
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Speaker 2: That's one. Eventually, Faye and Oregon's chief nemesis on the

478
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Speaker 2: recruiting trail is going to be USC. USC's chief recruiting

479
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Speaker 2: analysis is going to be Oregon, and they're positioning themselves

480
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Speaker 2: for some battles because not only are the head coaches

481
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Speaker 2: understanding that recruiting is a life led, they're hiring staffs

482
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Speaker 2: that are big time recruiters. So it's going to trickle

483
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Speaker 2: down to all positions in all parts of the country.

484
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Speaker 5: What about the jobs specifically of we'll go with the

485
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Speaker 5: big SEC jobs that got filled in LSU and Florida,

486
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Speaker 5: two very different coaches with very different backgrounds in Brian

487
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Speaker 5: Kelly and Billy Napier, two schools with outsized, crazy expectations

488
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Speaker 5: on the recruiting trail. Arguably why Florida made a change

489
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Speaker 5: because there wasn't a lot of optimism with Dan Mullen

490
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Speaker 5: moving forward as a recruiter and heading up a recruiting staff.

491
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Speaker 5: What about the jobs that they've done just because the

492
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Speaker 5: pressure there is it's just different than what it is

493
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Speaker 5: at USC and Oregon. Because LSU is recruiting again aainst

494
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Speaker 5: the SEC West among everybody else nationally and in Texas

495
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Speaker 5: and Florida. Of course within that state and within the SEC,

496
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 5: recruiting is such a crazy premium. The expectations are so outsized.

497
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Speaker 1: Every year.

498
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Speaker 5: Were there highlights from those two schools with those coaches

499
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Speaker 5: having so little time to sort of forge and secure relationships.

500
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Speaker 2: Well, think about what the LSU expectations and done to

501
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Speaker 2: Brian Kelly. He's got Brian Brian Kelly now has a

502
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Speaker 2: Southern accent.

503
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's dancing.

504
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Speaker 2: And not only did he dance the recruit he danced

505
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Speaker 2: with sign with Alabama to day. So that's a little

506
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Speaker 2: bit different than what was going on in South ben

507
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Speaker 2: But those are the expectations you've got to conform to

508
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Speaker 2: what LSU. This isn't a case where a new coach

509
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: comes in. It's my show, it's my regime. This is

510
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Speaker 2: how we're going to run it. Brian Kelly has completely

511
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Speaker 2: changed his character to something that he's not. It's like

512
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Speaker 2: watching that old I can remember the Kevin Space who

513
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 2: was in it of his Midnight in the Garden of

514
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Speaker 2: Good and Evil. It's like, yeah, yeah, watching that and

515
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Speaker 2: with Brian Kelly as your central character. That's because that

516
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: LSU job demands you don't lose an in state kid.

517
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Speaker 2: It means you don't. Not only do you not lose

518
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Speaker 2: an in state kid, you better go get the best

519
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: kid from Texas. You better go into Florida. We can

520
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Speaker 2: recruit like this. We won a national championship two years ago,

521
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Speaker 2: and Billy Napier goes to Florida where there is the

522
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Speaker 2: recruiting expectation, but maybe not the results. So what happens today.

523
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Speaker 2: Travonte citizen who's committed to LSU de commits a few

524
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Speaker 2: weeks ago and then kicks Miami. Of all schools, LSU

525
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: and Florida both thought they had a really realistic chance

526
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Speaker 2: of getting in, and a kid who's from Louisiana spurns LSU.

527
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Speaker 2: A kid who's from Louisiana, where Billy Napier was and

528
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Speaker 2: already had the relationship, spurns Florida to go to Miami,

529
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Speaker 2: who most thought was a dark horse at best but

530
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Speaker 2: an afterthought at realistic. And that's going to show you

531
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Speaker 2: that both those guys have bigger things that they really

532
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Speaker 2: need to focus on from a recruiting standpoint. JN Brian

533
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: Kelly really connect with kids and make it look like

534
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 2: it's genuine and sincere or is it forced. You know,

535
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Speaker 2: he's going to have a much different to choose from

536
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: because the LSU academics are different than Notre Dame's academics,

537
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: and the kind of recruit Notre Dame goes after is

538
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: more than is a national kid, where LSU you could

539
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: fill with eighty five ninety percent of your class in Louisiana.

540
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: So Ryan Kelly is going to have to get down

541
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Speaker 2: to Louisiana recruiting, whereas Napier's coming, he's playing from behind.

542
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: Not only does he try to get this recruited class,

543
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: but Mario Chrispall, who's already got a reputation in a

544
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: history of being a great recruiter, is in your own state.

545
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Speaker 2: That doesn't take into account that the two teams that

546
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: played for national championship are in your conference. You've got

547
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Speaker 2: the school that's signing the most generational class ever in

548
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: your conference as well. So Billy Naper, in my opinion,

549
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: has much bigger obstacles to overcome from a national standpoint,

550
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Speaker 2: because it's hard to keep those kids into Florida. Florida

551
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 2: came out to Washington to land a defensive lineman. I mean,

552
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Speaker 2: when we think about recruiting, you would think Florida would

553
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: never even have to lead the state to get a

554
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Speaker 2: defensive lineman. Now they're coming out to the West coast

555
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: to recruit a kid that neither of the in state

556
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: schools even offered. And it's all like Washington, Washington State,

557
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: our Texas, A and M and you know Baylor right now.

558
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: But those are just kind of showing you like he's

559
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: kind of having to reshuffle the expectations. I think without

560
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: seeing it, he almost said we may punt in twenty

561
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Speaker 2: twenty two to really turn our attention to twenty twenty three.

562
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Speaker 2: But I think Navier is going to be fine. The

563
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 2: problem is is everybody's recruiting Florida now. The whole SEC is,

564
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: the ACC is the PAC twelve is all these conference

565
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: and it's not going to be like it was when

566
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: Urban Meyer was there or when Steve Spreer is there.

567
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Speaker 2: So he's going to have his work cut out fro him,

568
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 2: and you also have to deal with for the first time,

569
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Speaker 2: it feels like forever Miami having a head coach who

570
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 2: is an absolute juggernaut when he's going at it on

571
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Speaker 2: the recruiting trail. Brian Kelly should be in a situation

572
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Speaker 2: where LSU should be a top five to seven class

573
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Speaker 2: every year because of the talent alone that Louisiana produces.

574
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Speaker 2: But again, he's going to have to get past this

575
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Speaker 2: kind of force, just personality that just does not look natural.

576
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Speaker 2: And the reality is I have two teenagers, my Stall.

577
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: Teenagers are actually lots smarter than adults given credit for.

578
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 2: They can kind of see right through that.

579
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Speaker 4: I have a question about the Brian Kelly stuff. Dan

580
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 4: brought this up on the last podcast because we were

581
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Speaker 4: still sort of reeling from the video and I'm on video,

582
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Speaker 4: We're doing the dance here whatever it was that he

583
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 4: was trying to do. How many college football coaches in

584
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Speaker 4: your view would look at that maneuver pulled by Kelly

585
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Speaker 4: and say that's not something I can do. I mean,

586
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Speaker 4: and so here's who we called out. Dan said, David

587
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Speaker 4: Shaw and Pat Fitzgerald wouldn't do it.

588
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Speaker 5: We added Paul Christ and Pat and Ardouzi as well,

589
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Speaker 5: Farence probably, and then somebody sent in Kirk ference. I

590
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Speaker 5: can't believe we didn't get that on the podcast.

591
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Speaker 4: But are we are we on target with those or

592
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Speaker 4: are there any other names that we should add to

593
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Speaker 4: that list, who is like above that level of weirdness.

594
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Speaker 2: I mean, David Randon would probably be in there wondering

595
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Speaker 2: why the lighting was so dark, and from a just

596
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: a pure scientific standpoint, is the lighting even worthwhile to

597
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: shoot it? I can't imagine Dave rand is smiling, let

598
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: alone dancing with somebody, so Ran would be the one.

599
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: But I mean, if there weren't the proof that Nick

600
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: Saban did at Rashaan Evans his grandmother's party, he probably

601
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't have thought Nick Saban would do it. But there's

602
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Speaker 2: I mean, Saman's an actor, he's a commercial guy. Saban

603
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: would do whatever, and he's still gonna win. He's still

604
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: gonna get that guy. Matt Brown absolutely would. Matt Brown

605
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: would probably have the entire family dancing when it's done.

606
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Speaker 2: But I can't imagine David rand and Kelly probably isn't

607
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: going to be a big dancer guy himself. David Shaw

608
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: would probably just scoff at the fact that he even

609
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Speaker 2: had to do it, Like, I'm sure there's some mensa

610
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Speaker 2: convention he could take his recruits to instead. I don't

611
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Speaker 2: know that we would see it, and I know he's

612
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Speaker 2: not a head coach right now. But I still believe

613
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: he'll be a head coach some day. Do we really

614
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Speaker 2: see Chris Peterson breaking it down, cutting a little red?

615
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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

616
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Speaker 2: No.

617
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Speaker 5: All Chris Peterson wants to do is coach receivers at

618
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Speaker 5: UC Davis. That's all he wants out of life, it appears.

619
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Speaker 2: I mean, future head coach at Stanford Chris Peterson.

620
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, why not?

621
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Speaker 1: Stanford didn't do as bad?

622
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Speaker 4: Did they?

623
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Speaker 2: This year? They had a nice class, best class in

624
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Speaker 2: the PAC twelve From a high school standpoint?

625
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Speaker 4: Yeah, what what is the outlook for Stanford? Because I

626
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 4: recall in the not so distant past, you and I

627
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 4: and Dan being on this call and sort of wondering

628
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Speaker 4: about directionally where that program was headed.

629
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Speaker 2: You know, it's a weird position because the recruiting classes

630
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: of the previous two or three years were curious. Then

631
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: they had the best class in the PAC twelve. They

632
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: looked horrible this year. They looked horrible in twenty nineteen.

633
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, in the shortened season with Davis Mills,

634
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: they actually looked halfway functional. So who is the real Stanford?

635
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: I think the days of twenty eleven to twenty fifteen

636
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: Stanford are long gone. They're probably closer to that twenty

637
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Speaker 2: seventeen era where they won the Pac twel North. They

638
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: got beat by USC in a down pack twelve, but

639
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: they should still be a eight, nine to ten win

640
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: team every couple of years. There shouldn't be a three

641
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: to nine Stanford there. And I think as more and

642
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: more people started to see the salary that you know

643
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: would be to private school, nobody's ever known how much

644
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: David Shaw was making. But when word kind of leaked

645
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: out over the last few months of what his salary

646
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: actually was, I think a lot of eyebrows were raised

647
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: because first people were probably shot Stanford was paying that

648
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: much for a football coach, But secondly, like you're getting

649
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: that kind of production the last three years with a

650
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: coach making that much money when there's another Bay Area

651
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: guy who's from Norland, California, who's had experience sitting in

652
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: the television studio down in Los Angeles. I mean, does

653
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: the OKG in the forty year decision not mesh better

654
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: than Chris Peterson and David Shaw. Has David Shaw done

655
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: everything that he could there? I'm intending to believe Yes.

656
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: I don't think we'll ever see the brutality, the intellectual brutality.

657
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: Like we saw when it was good, it was good.

658
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: But they've gotten away from that at their offenses and

659
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: it's not at the same scale. But it's like when

660
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: Nick Saban lost a couple of games because the offense

661
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: was stuck in neutral in the twenty tens, when he

662
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: finally made a change, We got to go, got to

663
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: get more athletic, We got to get more explosive. Will

664
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Speaker 2: Stanford ever do that? Where David Shaw ever do that?

665
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: Or are the days of when Derek Mason and Mike

666
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: Bloomen were there, where they were the baddest m efforts

667
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: on the field. Are those days done? And nobody bears standing?

668
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: There were times where Stanford won the game before it

669
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: even started, just from a pure physical standpoint. I think

670
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: it was what the whole body blow theory came largely

671
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: because of Stanford. That doesn't exist anymore. Now. You look

672
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: at Stanford almost as a homecoming game, as a bye

673
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: weekend because the talent just isn't there and the play

674
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: calling isn't modern.

675
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 4: Brandon selfishly, I need to ask about Penn State Notre

676
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 4: Dame six and seven in the updated two four seven

677
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: team rankings. It seems as if both programs took different

678
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 4: approaches to this recruiting class. Penn States, at least from

679
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: my vantage point, is very heavy on playmakers. They've got

680
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 4: quarterbacks and running backs and wide outs, guys that can

681
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 4: come in perhaps and make an immediate impact. On the

682
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: Notre Dame side, that may also be the case, but

683
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 4: it seems a little bit more grounded in the essentials,

684
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 4: the linemen, the stuff that we see Notre Dame do

685
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: pretty well over the last five to ten years under

686
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 4: Brian Kelly. Evaluate the health of those two classes and

687
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 4: any guys that might make an immediate impact for either program.

688
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, for much of the year, Penn State had the

689
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: top class in the country. You know, obviously they did

690
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: a good job of getting a lot of early commitments,

691
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: but really didn't experience a lot of de commitments, and

692
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: they held that class pretty well together, and so it

693
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: still stayed as a top ten class even as other

694
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: schools were starting to increase their class. But you know,

695
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: Drew Aller is our number one quarterback in this class,

696
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: A big, physical, strong armed kid. What a great evaluation

697
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: by Mike Yourristige and James Franklin early on to kind

698
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: of get in on the game before he started to

699
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: blow up. A player that when the queen you were

700
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: seeing kind of blew up at all out of state.

701
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: A lot of Ohio State fans were wondering why they

702
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: never recruited Drew Aller in the first place. Now, remember

703
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: at the time he was supposed to be a part

704
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty two class. Had been a twenty

705
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: twenty one guy from the get go, they probably would

706
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 2: have gone after Drew Aller. Instead, they get Devin Brown.

707
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: But with all Her, you know, Penn State's getting this

708
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: big physical arm in all Her and a guy that

709
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: I think just continues to ascend. Having seen him for

710
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 2: a week down at the All American Ball, having seen

711
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: him at the Elite eleven, you cannot ignore the dynamite

712
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: in his elbow. I like what they got with him.

713
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 2: With them, there's a player that I think Penn State

714
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: fans are going to love and Deny dentis sudden. I mean,

715
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: this guy is a absolute monster. I'm not saying he's

716
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons, but he had a Michael Parsons like impact

717
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: at the All American Bowl where you saw him and

718
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 2: you're like, this guy is not sitting. This guy is

719
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: playing early and enjoy the three years you're getting from him,

720
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: because this is a green room guy down the line.

721
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: And when you look at a player liked an identas Sudden,

722
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: he makes a huge difference. Because if you look at

723
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: why Ohio State and Michigan have been in the playoffs

724
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, Yes, their offenses have been fine.

725
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: In Ohio State's case, their offense has been more than fine.

726
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: But it's been guys like you know, the Bosa brothers,

727
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: It's been an Aiden Hutchinson, there's been that elite pass

728
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: rusher that makes all the difference in a Big ten game.

729
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: And now Penn State has a dude as a pass

730
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: rusher and denied deadness Sutton. The other fascinating thing again

731
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: we talked about with Florida coming out to Washington to

732
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: get a recruit, Penn State actually came to Washington to

733
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: get a recruit, vega Ione, who was at grand capacity

734
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: they finished in the top ten of the country. He

735
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: was a left tackle who was committed to Washington. Stacy

736
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: Collins was a West Coast guy recruiting at Utah State

737
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: in Boise State. Comes in him and probably both recruit

738
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 2: Vega and he's I think it was the highest rated

739
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 2: three start interior offensive lineman in the country. He's going

740
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 2: to Penn State. So Penn State is recruiting in all

741
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: parts of the country now and they're keeping up with

742
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: the Michigans in the Ohio state. So I think Penn

743
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 2: State fans should be really excited, but denied Deadnis Sutton,

744
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: that's the guy really like with Notre Dame. I think

745
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: it speaks to the the impact that Marcus Freeman had

746
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: on those recruits. At the head coach leaves and hardly

747
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: anybody who goes out the door with them, and hardly

748
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 2: any of the assistants go out the door with that coach. Now,

749
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: they've had some coaching turnover in the last couple of weeks,

750
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: but when Marcus Freeman, who got all of those commits

751
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: to visit that final weekend before the early signing period.

752
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: The NCAAA, I don't know. I think Daniel and I

753
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: talked with this last time, but the NCAA now allows it.

754
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: If you were committed to a school and there's a

755
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: head coaching change, and you've used your file official visit

756
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: or you officially visited the school, you committed to, you

757
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: could take one more to go meet the new staff,

758
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: and just every player went on that visit to Notre Dame.

759
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: So you saw the Freeman effect there. I talked to

760
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: Cooper flanningan who's in the twenty twenty three class, committed

761
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: to Notre Dame at a tournament this past weekend, and

762
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 2: I asked them, you know, what was your opinion about

763
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly said, this is an offensive guy. Yeah, I

764
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: was disappointed to see him go, but I'm so excited

765
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: that they have Marcus Freeman. This isn't a guy he

766
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: would have interacted with much, being that he was a

767
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator and Cooper Flanning is a tied end. But

768
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 2: now you could see like nobody's panicking in those Notre

769
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: Dame recruiting classes because they believe in Freeman. And you

770
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: look at that class, the guys that they have coming in,

771
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 2: the Tobias Merriweathers, the Seve Angeli Is, the ti Chans.

772
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: There's plenty of players there that could have gone elsewhere,

773
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: but they stuck too. And I think the foundation is

774
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: in place for Notre Dame. Keeping Tommy Reese was a

775
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: big part of it. Keeping some of the other assistants. Sure,

776
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: losing some of those key assistants hurt, but it's the

777
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: guys we're leaving for better opportunities. From a positional standpoint,

778
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 2: from a coordinator standpoint, it wasn't hey, we don't trust

779
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: dream and we're going to LSU with Brian Kelly. They

780
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: stayed the player state, and I think Notre Dame is

781
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 2: really going to reap that benefit in twenty twenty three

782
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 2: because there still is a lot of continuity in that

783
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 2: recruiting staff.

784
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 5: I'm curious about the schools because you know, obviously Notre

785
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 5: Dame and Penn State are examples of schools that have

786
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 5: designs of being playoff caliber programs moving up a tier

787
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 5: in the case of Penn State to become a playoff

788
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 5: caliber program. Notre Dame's been there, but they're recruiting like

789
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 5: they want to continue to be there. When you look

790
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 5: at the schools ranked in the teens the thirties who

791
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 5: are recruiting on a level that if they're able to

792
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 5: continue doing so, are going to move up a tier

793
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 5: on the field in the way that you know Pitt

794
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 5: or Ole Miss or Michigan State. Guys who are teams

795
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 5: who have recruited guys that have helped to help them

796
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 5: to get to those levels where that they've improved on

797
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 5: the field. Who's doing that on the trail that who

798
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 5: is showing things, who is ascending on the trail to

799
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 5: make you think if they keep this up, they're going

800
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 5: to be playing for conference titles.

801
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: Well, this will sound crazy because there was high expectations

802
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: for them going into this year and then it's split

803
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: it out. At North Carolina there are top ten classing.

804
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: The question is going to follow Mack Brown until he

805
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: does retire. How long is he going to take that job?

806
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: But he's recruiting like he plans to be there till

807
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 2: twenty forty. So with that, you're seeing North Carolina recruiting

808
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: continuing to get better and get better and get better

809
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: in the talent getting better. And the reality is why

810
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: not take advantage of Florida State is still flountering a bit,

811
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 2: Why not take advantage of Miami's still trying to figure

812
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: out its identity. Why don't take advantage of Clemson the

813
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: first time having some adversity hit them with players transferring out,

814
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 2: with players decommitting, with coordinators leaving. So if there was

815
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: a school that I think is primed that we're not

816
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: used to seeing in that upper tier, and the reality

817
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: is we are always going to say North Carolina is

818
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: a basketball school, but they don't have like it, they

819
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 2: don't recruit like it. They act like they're a big boy.

820
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: They maybe just haven't had that consistent success since back

821
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: Brown was there in the nineties. So now mac Brown's back.

822
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 2: He knows what it takes to build a national brand.

823
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: He knows what it takes to deal with expectations. And

824
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: North Carolina wants basketball national championships. They'll take a football

825
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: one here and there, but it's about basketball. But why

826
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: not try to have both? So I think Carolina is

827
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 2: the best position team the other one that I mean,

828
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: you could look at the recruiting rankings and we're not

829
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: used to seeing Kentucky or Missouri in the top fifteen.

830
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: But I just think there's still too many obstacles in

831
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: the SEC from Missouri or Kentucky to consistently beat. Now,

832
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: Missouri played what three SEC championship games? They were a

833
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: top ranked team fifteen years ago. It's not completely abnormal.

834
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: Kentucky's been a consistently good program under mark stood, But

835
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: does anybody really think that those two teams are going

836
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: to be joining that upper echelon the SEC let alone nationally,

837
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: Whereas in the ACC, all you really need to do

838
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: right now is to get past Clemson. And if you

839
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 2: go eleven and one, you get past clums In. Now

840
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 2: you have a potential to be a national championship caliber team.

841
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: I think another one if you really want to go

842
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: down a few. But this is a program that Dan,

843
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: I know you're very fum with. It's Utah. You know, Utah.

844
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: To me, Utah is the Power five version of Cincinnati.

845
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: And what do I mean by that that they're just

846
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 2: quietly tucked away doing their theme, continue to out evaluate schools,

847
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: continuing to out develop schools. And it just took for

848
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: the first time ever then finally cracking through the glass

849
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: ceiling to get to that point. Remember two years ago

850
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: they were a trendy pit by a lot of people

851
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 2: to win the PAC twelve, them be a playoff team

852
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: going into the Pac twelve championship game. They were sitting

853
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: at that number four spot before Oregon took it to

854
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: them two years later. If they would have gone to

855
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: Cameron Rising earlier in the year. And then there was

856
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: the tragedy that they dealt with. Maybe Utah's a playoff team,

857
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 2: but they're a trendy pick as a preseason top five team.

858
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 2: But this is a result of fifteen years. This isn't

859
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 2: just since you know, over the last five years, Kyle

860
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: Whittingham has been building a slow burn at Utah. They

861
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: was talking earlier in the year that he might retire

862
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: after everything he's gone through in the last year. By

863
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: the end of the year, when he saw them in

864
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: the Pac twelve Championship game or in the Rose Bowl,

865
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 2: this guy looked like he was thirty years old again.

866
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: And Kyle Whittingham is better in shape at the age

867
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: of whatever, sixty sixty five than anybody. Now he's coaching

868
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 2: like he's rejuvenated again. Utah's not going anywhere. They're recruiting

869
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: better than they ever have. So we talk about Oregon,

870
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: we talk about usc we talk about Washington, even with

871
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: the head coaching changes of schools that should be in

872
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: the playoffs, let's not ignore Utah because now their recruiting

873
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: is starting to get to the level where they're in

874
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: the but Elliett Blue Chip Index.

875
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: They definitely are.

876
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 5: And the fascinating thing is Utah is one of those

877
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 5: schools that they've been able to hang on to kids,

878
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 5: keep them there, not necessarily start them, or have to

879
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 5: rely on kids early on, develop them and have them

880
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 5: star sophomores, juniors, whatever. A lot of schools don't have

881
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 5: that luxury for whatever reason, whether it's coaches moving around,

882
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 5: whether it's taking kids from far away, dealing with transfers,

883
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 5: dealing with homesickness, whatever. I wonder what's tomorrow, like, what's

884
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 5: the next month like? For these coaches, they've secured their classes.

885
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 5: But let's say, and I'm totally making this up, Let's

886
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 5: say mel Tucker doesn't get a guy at Michigan State

887
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 5: but has a good relationship with the kid, has a

888
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 5: good relationship with the parents and the coaches and everything

889
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 5: like that, And every coach now knows kids that they

890
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 5: miss on that they have a good relationship on. Might

891
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 5: be a transfer in a year, might be a transfer

892
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 5: in two years. How are those relationships between coach, between staffers,

893
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 5: high school coaches, seven on coaches, trainers, parents, How are

894
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 5: those relationships massaged or maintained so that if there is

895
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 5: a portal appearance, they're like, oh, well, this guy was classy,

896
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 5: this guy wished us well, when we left, we think

897
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 5: we might be a good fit now that we've decided

898
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 5: to transfer two years later.

899
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: I think with the transfer portal, we're never going to

900
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: see the less miles of the world question the chest

901
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: or what's in the chest? Yeah? Of another quarterback? Ever?

902
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: Again why because you don't want to badmouth them. What

903
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: might have been a spurn today ends up being a

904
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 2: signing in a year from now. And you're seeing a

905
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: lot less shade being thrown by college coaches at recruits.

906
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: Now they're just throwing it at other assistant coaches, are

907
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: o their head coaches. You know, well, josh Shan Barram

908
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 2: ever end up at South Carolina, probably not after what

909
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: Shane Beemer said about his recruitment to Maryland. But those

910
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: are few and far between, because you're going to now

911
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: realize with so many of these players they want to

912
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: go in the portal. You want to maintain that relationship

913
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: with them so that you're an option, you know, just

914
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: looking recently, when Jacob Eeson left Washington to go to Georgia,

915
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 2: he never said a bad word about Washington, never said

916
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: a bad word about Chris Peterson waiting too long to

917
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: offer him. He goes to Georgia, things don't work out.

918
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: After a couple of years, he ends up back at

919
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: Washington and people liked it because he didn't take shots

920
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: on his way out the door. You see, you know,

921
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: high school coaches maybe throwing shade, trainers throwing shade, but

922
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: you're not going to see the kids do it because

923
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: a lot of these kids are going and here's of

924
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: the other reality. I don't know if it's sad. I

925
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: just think it's where we're at in college football. A

926
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: lot of players going to the decision making promise a

927
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: process of saying this is where I want to go now.

928
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 2: But if it doesn't work out ten years ago, that

929
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: was it. You made it work, or you're going to

930
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: a juco and you might never go play at the

931
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: FPBS level. Now you talk to guys, well, I'm going

932
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: to go here for a year or two and then

933
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: I might come home and play my last year. Or

934
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: I'm going to get my degree and then I'm going

935
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 2: to go to this school. They're already thinking I'm committed

936
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 2: to them for now. I'm signing with them for now,

937
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: I'm playing with them for now. It used to just

938
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 2: be you committed to a school to make your reservations.

939
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: Now you sign with the school, but you still aren't

940
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: one hundred percent all in until you get there and

941
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: you see what the nil deal is, you see what

942
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: the depth chart looks like. Then you'll make your final

943
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: decision because you can transfer now without having to sit

944
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: out a year. So coaches now realize you've got to

945
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 2: continue to maintain good relationships with these players people, whether

946
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: it's their high school coach, whether it's their seven on

947
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: seven coach, whether it's their trainer, whether it's their family.

948
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: Not only that, but the days of a college coach

949
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 2: offering one guy and thinking or offering ten guys and

950
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: thinking only one guy thinks he has the offer, those

951
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: days are done. With every offer that's tweeted. Now, these coaches,

952
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: they're being held accountable by the recruits. So if you

953
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: have a reputation for being an overoferer and an undersigner,

954
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: that's going to haunt you and follow you wherever you go.

955
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,479
Speaker 2: The other thing. So to answer a question about what's

956
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: next to these coaches, well, February is a dead period,

957
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 2: so there's no unofficial business to host, no official business

958
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: to host hosts this day, But these coaches still have

959
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 2: to continue to recruit their own roster. What do I

960
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: mean by recruiting, Well, those guys are still there, yeah,

961
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: but they very well could leave in the middle of

962
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: April after springing practice because he yelled at them during

963
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: a practice, or you move them down to work with

964
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 2: the second team. So now the days of vacations are

965
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: done because these coaches constantly have to manage the It's

966
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 2: why colleges are now hiring full time transfer recruiting directors

967
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 2: just to manage the portal. Keep our guys out of them,

968
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: but go grab the guys in them that we want.

969
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: So there's a little bit of downtime, a little bit

970
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: of rest, but now you have to that much more

971
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: have great relationships with your own players because they'll bounce

972
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: on you in a heartbeat.

973
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 5: I want to take a positive spind for teams that

974
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 5: have been down these past few years, and I want

975
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 5: your opinion on teams who you could qualify as programs

976
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 5: that you could say, look, it's not going to happen

977
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 5: this year, It's probably not going to happen next year.

978
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 5: But I'm just saying twenty twenty four. Like a school

979
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 5: I think about is like Arizona, right, Jedfish and what

980
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 5: he came to mind. Yeah, even like Vanderbilt did not

981
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 5: finish at the bottom of the SEC. Barton Simmons, you know,

982
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 5: comes over as a media member and now he's helping

983
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 5: to run the personnel department in Vanderbilt for Clark Lee. Like,

984
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 5: who are those schools that actually made a good hire

985
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 5: at the bottom of the sport. You know that the

986
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 5: Kevin Sumlin Arrow was a disaster on the recruiting trail

987
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 5: for Arizona, which should never have like a pisspoor class.

988
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 5: It's Arizona, it's it's Sunny. It's in a major conference,

989
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 5: like you should be able to put together a competent class.

990
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 5: Who are those schools that are just very quietly laying

991
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 5: a competent foundation right now?

992
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 2: Well, I think one that maybe isn't laying a foundation

993
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: because their coaches got there, But one that I think

994
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: we're going to see success is because changes happening in

995
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 2: their own conference. But also the head coach is TCU.

996
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 2: I think with Sunny Dykes in the recruiting that he

997
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: did at SMU, getting top one hundred players to spurn

998
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: the Power fives to go to SMU because they were

999
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: focused on the DFW. Getting those Metroplex kids to safe. Well,

1000
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: now he's at a bigger school, a school that's in

1001
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: the Big twelve. No longer going to have to deal

1002
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: with Texas and Oklahoma. Here in a couple of years

1003
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 2: where TCU their biggest competition is going to be Baylor

1004
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: in Houston more than it's going to be Texas and

1005
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: Oklahoma for those Big twelve kids. Now, Texas and Oklahoma

1006
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: are going to have to realize that those kids that

1007
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: they may have held the market on in the state

1008
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: of Texas, the SEC schools, you invite them into your house,

1009
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: they're now going to eat your food. But when you're TCU,

1010
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: you don't an invite him into your house. You don't

1011
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: have to worry about them raiding your cabinet. So I

1012
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: think TCU is in a position where we saw under

1013
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: Gary Patterson when the playoffs first were getting started in

1014
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen and fifteen, they were a team that was

1015
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: contending for the playoffs. They could be and should be

1016
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: a consistent ten win team. And let's be clear, the

1017
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: Sunny Ducks era at CAL was relatively a disaster. I

1018
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: don't know how much it was his fall, how much

1019
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 2: was the athletic department I think it's probably a combination

1020
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: of two. But he was a fish out of water.

1021
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: He filled his groove back and found his element at SBU.

1022
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: Now he's at a school that wants to keep having

1023
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 2: that success, that has that Ferrale recruiting base, where he

1024
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: is a known name, with assistants that are known names.

1025
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: I think TCU has a chance to be kind of

1026
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: that school that gets back into the playoff picture. I

1027
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 2: don't know that Arizona will ever be a playoff team,

1028
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: but Arizona will never experience the depth of twenty nineteen,

1029
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty and twenty twenty one ever again with Jetfish.

1030
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: They made face it in twenty twenty two because they're

1031
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: going to be playing so many young player But Jed

1032
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: Fish's recruiting efforts are basically ensuring that Arizona twenty three,

1033
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: twenty four. Heck, if they can keep those guys till

1034
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, they should be a team that you know.

1035
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: Dallian says a little bit with the packswell South title

1036
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: depending on how quickly USC gets turned around. But I

1037
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 2: think Arizona and TCU, who have both you know interestingly enough,

1038
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: both those schools the very first year of the New

1039
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: Year Six. Both those guys were in New Year six Bowls.

1040
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: Arizona won the Packswell's South. TCU won the Big Twelve

1041
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 2: very controversially, I should say, but the point being that

1042
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: those schools haven't had success recently. Yeah, so it's not

1043
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: unreasonable to thiek. But I can TCU just given their

1044
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 2: location and given the way the conference is going to be.

1045
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: They're not welcoming Lincoln Riley into the conference like Arizona is.

1046
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: They're losing Texas and Oklahoma. That should give them a

1047
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: chance to be a team that could consistently compete in

1048
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve year in and year out.

1049
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 4: Brandon Hoffman from twenty four to seven Sports talking all

1050
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 4: things recruiting. Just a few more quick ones for you

1051
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 4: and then we'll let you go. I know it's a

1052
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 4: busy day. You just mentioned Texas and Oklahoma. We haven't

1053
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 4: talked a whole lot about those classes. I'm curious what

1054
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 4: it was like to try and cover Oklahoma. I made

1055
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 4: the coaching turnover. The Caleb Williams thing finally reached its conclusion.

1056
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 4: Perhaps it was something that seemed obvious that he'd always

1057
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 4: end up at USC, but it no doubt captured a

1058
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 4: lot of the imagination around college football, was much of

1059
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 4: the narrative as it relates to the transfer portal. What

1060
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 4: was that situation like trying to trying to follow everything?

1061
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: Well, again, it's hard enough to cover recruiting when you

1062
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: have flips, and when you have recruits deciding there to

1063
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 2: go somewhere. It's a whole other thing when the transfers

1064
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 2: are doing it. Remember Dylan Gabriel committed to UCLA last December,

1065
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 2: and then the day Caleb Williams went into the portal,

1066
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel the size that he's going to Oklahoma instead,

1067
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: and then you have, well, is Caleb Williams going to

1068
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: go back? And then the triple down effective? Does Jackson

1069
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: Dart end up at Oklahoma and we get a direct

1070
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 2: trade for each other even though Dylan Gabriel's there, like

1071
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: Jeff Levy, maybe he goes to Oklahoma. So Oklahoma was

1072
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: firing on all cylinders and everywhere. Are they going to

1073
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: hold onto their high school recruits? Are they going to

1074
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: be able to flip any high school recruits that maybe

1075
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley didn't look at. But now that Brenton Venables

1076
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: is there, they are going to go after What about

1077
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: all the transfers that are transferring out, what about all

1078
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: the transfers that are transferring in. I mean, it was

1079
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: a fascinating But.

1080
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 3: One thing about Oklahoma's class is they did really didn't

1081
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 3: lose a lot of commits after Lincoln Riley's departure, with

1082
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 3: the exception of a relief Brown who many felt was

1083
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 3: going to end up at USC.

1084
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: Even if Lincoln Riley stated at Oklahoma and with a

1085
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: couple of twenty twenty threes, the majority of Oklahoma's twenty

1086
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: twenty two class stuck together. In fact, they almost all

1087
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: doubled down, stubbornly and saying you know what, I have

1088
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: zero interest in going to USC. I'm solid with Oklahoma

1089
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: bringing in a name like they did in Brenton Venables.

1090
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 2: There's still being some key names. I mean, the retention

1091
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: in Bill Bendenbaugh was huge. If there's no Bill Bendenbough Oklahoma,

1092
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: Josh Connery doesn't visit Oklahoma the number one tackle in

1093
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 2: the country. So there were some key hires. But Venables

1094
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: is a non name. This isn't a guy that they're

1095
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 2: bringing in that nobody knows about. This is a guy

1096
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 2: that some Oklahoma fans felt maybe he should have been

1097
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 2: the heir to Bob Stoops five years ago. So this

1098
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 2: was the favorite sun returning and Oklahoma's classes. Oklahoma's class

1099
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: didn't feel the negative hit from the twenty twenty two

1100
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 2: high school recruits, but they certainly got some benefit out

1101
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: of that with him being a no name coming back

1102
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: when it comes to the transfers that came in. And

1103
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: then obviously the hiring of Jeff Levy was tremendous because

1104
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: is Dylan Gabriel a better quarterback? A more talented quarterback

1105
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: than Kayla Williams. Maybe not more talented, but he's had

1106
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 2: the same production with much less weapons around him, and

1107
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: that's going to be a pretty seamless transition, I think

1108
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: for Oklahoma's offense with Dylan Gabriel now running the show.

1109
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 4: All right, a few quick ones here. We didn't mention

1110
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 4: these schools all that much. Give me your favorite player

1111
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 4: in each of these classes. Are you ready?

1112
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: Oh?

1113
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: This is a child.

1114
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 5: This is going to speak to Brandon's ability to both

1115
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 5: look at the camera and to a database on his

1116
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 5: screen at the same time.

1117
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 4: I would not have asked the question if I were

1118
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 4: at all at lacking confidence in mister Hopeman Alabama.

1119
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: I mean, for me, I would say my favorite player

1120
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: in that class. Gosh, I'm looking at this list and

1121
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think there's no Will Anderson in this class.

1122
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 2: There's no Rare Shawn Evans where it was that late ascension,

1123
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: I would probably go, I really like John Campbell. I

1124
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: think he's one of those pass rushers that when he

1125
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 2: spends the year in the Alabama lab getting bigger and stronger.

1126
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: He's six three two twenty ish now, but when he

1127
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: gets bigger, he's just going to be a force off

1128
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 2: the edge, you know, I'm not. I like Tyler Booker

1129
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: a lot, really like what I saw from him at

1130
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: the Future fifty. Another kid that I think he's going

1131
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: to be able to put some weight on him. And

1132
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: that's one of the things that Alabama does well is

1133
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: because they're so stacked, they can give these guys a

1134
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: year or two to really put the weight and size on.

1135
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 2: But I think Tyler Bookler, Tyler Booker, you give him

1136
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: a year of that strengthen conditioning program, should be able

1137
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: to plug in either at left tackle or at rye

1138
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: tackling and be in All America candidate for Alabama.

1139
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 4: All right, rapid fire, let's do this. Come on Georgia.

1140
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: Georgia. I would probably man, that's a tough one. Their

1141
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 2: class is so good. I would probably say Mike cal Williams,

1142
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: just having seen him at the All American Ball was

1143
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: committed to USC. That's a guy that PAC twelve doesn't get.

1144
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: If they do get him, they don't keep him. He's

1145
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: the guy that I think ends up in that Georgia

1146
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: defensive line rotation. Could be a Trevon Walker type Ohio

1147
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: State man, Ohio State. I like Devin Brown. I think

1148
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 2: he is an upside play. I think he's going to

1149
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 2: be in a position where he doesn't need to play

1150
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 2: right away, so that's a good thing for him. It

1151
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 2: gives him another year. He throws a lot of interceptions,

1152
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 2: but he can fight out spin the ball. I'm gonna

1153
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: say Devon Brown, who made probably the biggest rise at

1154
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 2: any quarterback in this class from a relative unow when

1155
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: he committed to USC to where he's at in the final.

1156
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 4: Rankings Texas, And you can't say Quinn you wers because

1157
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 4: obviously that doesn't count for this discussion.

1158
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that they're going to get Devon On Campbell

1159
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: here this afternoon, so I probably say him, I'm a

1160
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 2: big fan, but if you're as my favorite player, I'm

1161
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 2: going to go with the local kid, Malik Adabo. Blik

1162
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: may Or may not crack the rotation, but I told

1163
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: him for three years, if you're not the next Marcus Spears,

1164
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to be greatly disappointed. He's a three hundred

1165
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: and fifty pounder who would line up a tailback, would

1166
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: play tight end on the seven on seventh circuit, catch

1167
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 2: everything's thrown his way. Texas fans are going to love

1168
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: this kid. He's going to be the future mayor of

1169
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: Federal Way or Seattle. So if a Washington kid can

1170
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: make it in Texas, then I think he can make

1171
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: it anywhere, or at least that's what Texas fans will

1172
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: tell you.

1173
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 4: And last, but certainly not least, the Michigan Wolverine's Big

1174
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 4: Ten champion Michigan Wolf.

1175
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: Probably my favorite player in this class period is Zeke

1176
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: Berry from conquer Daala Cela High School, a guy that

1177
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: I've compared since he was a sophomore to Javon Holland,

1178
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: a East Bay kid who never attracted all the real

1179
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 2: big national attention because he was from the East Bay,

1180
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 2: didn't play in the Trinity League, yet every event you

1181
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 2: went to, Zeke Barry was one of the best players there,

1182
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 2: just like Javon Holland. Every event Javon Holland I went to,

1183
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: he was a stud And now he's what the highest

1184
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 2: rated pro football focused rookie safety in the NFL. Zeke

1185
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 2: Berry played the safety seven on seven program, has the

1186
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: same DV coach as a trainer. I think Zeke Berry

1187
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: is going to come in and play early at Michigan,

1188
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 2: and I think he's going to end up being a

1189
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: All American safety. Probably not just my favorite player in

1190
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: the Michigan class, He's probably my favorite player period in

1191
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two class.

1192
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: Oregon.

1193
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 4: That's my final Oregon.

1194
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a big Jaeil Tucker guy. I loved

1195
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: a little I loved Jalil Florence too. Florence is a

1196
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 2: little bit more vocal than Tucker are their teammates. They're

1197
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: obviously both very talented players, but Tucker strikes me as

1198
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: the kind of guy that he doesn't talk a whole lot.

1199
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 2: But much like I was a big Byron Carwell fan

1200
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: a year ago, they're just something about those guys that

1201
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: don't say a whole lot, but go out and their

1202
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 2: play backs it up and you know you could go

1203
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: either way. It's like asking whatever coach on Lincoln, who's

1204
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: your favorite son. I would say that I'm a big

1205
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: Joeil Tucker guy. He's the guy that I'm most excited

1206
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 2: to see it. Or you know, when you look at

1207
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 2: Oregon's dv's classes these last couple of years, demeanor wise,

1208
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: he's going to remind you a lot of Diametro Lanois.

1209
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 2: And I think Organ fans would absolutely take that.

1210
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 5: All right, fair enough, Brandon Hoffman two four seven Sports

1211
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 5: National Editor. He gets to sleep tonight, he gets to

1212
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, forget names, but he doesn't forget names.

1213
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 2: I gotta transfer portal recruiting.

1214
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: Now you gotta cover the portal.

1215
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 5: You have to make references to somebody having the same

1216
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 5: trainer as somebody that Mike Stoops worked with in Tucson, which,

1217
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 5: by the way, ty breaking news. It looks like Antonio

1218
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 5: Pierce stepping down at ASU. So another reason why to

1219
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 5: be high on Arizona these next two or three years,

1220
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 5: because Arizona State don't know if you saw this tie

1221
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 5: disastrous class is not really happening in Tempe. Yeah yeah,

1222
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 5: So who knows what's gonna happen there? I guess we

1223
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 5: all kind of do. But Brandon, thank you very much

1224
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 5: for your time. Thank you very much for another outstanding

1225
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 5: job covering the madness that is recruiting both high school

1226
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 5: portal JC everything, and hope to talk to you.

1227
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, fellas.

1228
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 4: Alrighty one more time. That is Brandon Huffman from two

1229
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 4: four seven Sports. Congratulations to him and the entire team

1230
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 4: over there. They do an incredible job trying to keep

1231
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 4: us up to date with what's happening, not just on

1232
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 4: the recruiting trail, but in the transfer portal. It's a

1233
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 4: tall task to keep track of all these moving pieces,

1234
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 4: and they do an admirable job. So, as always, we

1235
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 4: appreciate Brandon stopping on by to give us some of

1236
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 4: his insight. Daniel, hmm, did you like when I asked

1237
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 4: him his favorite guy in each class?

1238
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: You nailed it.

1239
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 5: You put him on the spot and he came through

1240
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 5: in a big way and I got to to tag

1241
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 5: it with Oregon at the end. There's there What is

1242
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 5: there not to like?

1243
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 4: I feel like it's a little like the bit where

1244
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 4: they try to pin down Sean McVay and ask him

1245
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 4: what pay did you call at four fifty nine in

1246
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 4: the second quarter of the twenty nineteen Blody Bloc, And

1247
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 4: he just knows. Brandon Huffman knows, he knows the answer

1248
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 4: to all of these quo Russians. That's why he is

1249
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 4: who he is. Why don't we bring him back?

1250
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, of course, pure I remember you're now going

1251
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 5: what five six years back? I don't remember the exact year,

1252
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 5: and so I would do a very long, an hour's

1253
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 5: long stream with our friend Bud Elliott at the old Gig,

1254
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 5: and we would also have Brandon Huffman on, and I

1255
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 5: remember asking both of them a very similar question about

1256
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 5: like which team is out recruiting their current status in

1257
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 5: the sport or something like that. Both of them said PJ.

1258
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 5: Fleck and Minnesota, and both of them said, dude, Rashad Bateman,

1259
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 5: Like I don't know how Minnesota pulled Rashod Bateman out

1260
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 5: of Georgia, but this kid's ridiculous. And I don't even

1261
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 5: know if he was a four star. I think he

1262
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 5: might have been like a high three star. And Brandon

1263
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 5: is in suburban Washington. Bud at the time, I think

1264
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 5: was like in Fort Myers and they both land on

1265
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 5: the same kind of super sleeper, and I was like,

1266
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 5: I don't like, I guess this kid must be decent,

1267
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 5: and it turns out he was.

1268
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it turns out he was.

1269
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 5: And so these guys just do an incredible job and

1270
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 5: see so many kids and then you know, somebody pops

1271
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 5: and they're like, why isn't he you know, in demand

1272
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 5: as like the next big thing, And they were right

1273
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 5: to question it, and they're not hitting a thousand, But

1274
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 5: I like that. Brandon was like, my guy this year

1275
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 5: is Zeke Berry out of Dala sal who's heading to Michigan.

1276
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 5: Who I don't know what the you know, at the

1277
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 5: time of recording this, Jim Harbaugh is technically still the

1278
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 5: coach of Michigan. I don't know what's going to come

1279
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 5: of that class. I know a lot of those guys

1280
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 5: are already enrolled. But I like when I like when

1281
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 5: those types of guys, Brandon and Bud plant those flags.

1282
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: It's great.

1283
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 4: We got to bring but on at some point in

1284
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:35,959
Speaker 4: the off season.

1285
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: Two.

1286
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, we absolutely will. He's great.

1287
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, We'll bring Budd back on all right, so big

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Speaker 4: thanks to Brandon. We hope y'all found this insightful. Don't

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Speaker 4: forget that over edvard ballers dot com. We do a

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Speaker 4: weekly broadcast, a bonus broadcast, where we answer your questions.

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Speaker 4: We call it the bruin A. It arguably is the

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Speaker 4: most fun that we have in the span of a

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Speaker 4: given week. You and I just sort of riffing about

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Speaker 4: all all sorts of random college football things and topics. Otherwise,

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Speaker 4: so verballers dot com is where you can find out

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Speaker 4: more about that.

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Speaker 5: I have the Discord channel, by the way, the Discord

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Speaker 5: server channel. I don't know what it's called, but the

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Speaker 5: discord access you get with verballers dot com has been

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Speaker 5: it appears a particular highlights to people who are subscribers

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Speaker 5: on verballers dot com. And so, I don't know, we

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Speaker 5: were just talking about movies earlier.

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Speaker 1: It was great. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Are you watching anything right now? Ty, it's cold, you're inside.

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Speaker 4: Folks are trying to get me back on Ozark and

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Speaker 4: I fell off the tree sure like season and a half.

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Speaker 5: So you're not watching anything right now now.

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Speaker 4: I don't have anything at the moment.

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Speaker 5: I am in the middle of because I just am

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Speaker 5: tired at the end of the day. I don't have

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Speaker 5: a full two hours to dedicate to a movie, so

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Speaker 5: I watch movies and chunks. I am in the middle

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Speaker 5: of watching on Netflix. Oh god, what's it called? Miles

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Speaker 5: Teller and Jonahill? War Dogs?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Okay, have you seen war Dogs?

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Speaker 5: It is objectively both not that good. I'm enjoying myself

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Speaker 5: watching it. I don't know how you define that kind

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Speaker 5: of movie. But somebody on on the discord server was like,

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Speaker 5: you guys should start like talking about things that are

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Speaker 5: just like you're you're randomly consuming. Yeah, I'm randomly consuming

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Speaker 5: right now. I random what's the uh the Ryan Reynolds

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Speaker 5: movie He's Done the Money?

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Speaker 4: No, I know that. But on Netflix whatever, Six Underground

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, not good.

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Speaker 1: I stopped.

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Speaker 4: I stopped about thirty minutes in. Don't watch that movie.

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Speaker 1: But what's it about?

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Speaker 4: It's supposed to be kind of like a heist thing.

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Speaker 5: Mmm, but it's it's just.

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Speaker 4: It's too I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Did you watch the movie where he's like a background

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Speaker 5: video game character?

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Speaker 1: Was that good?

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Speaker 4: The background video game character? Did about the movie? No?

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, it's Ryan Reynolds, right, Who's like the background.

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Speaker 5: He's a background video game character. Like in a video game,

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Speaker 5: there are people like walking around in the background, right,

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Speaker 5: Like when you're fighting in Street Fighter and you're fighting

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Speaker 5: against Chun Lee, there's the people at the market in

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Speaker 5: the background. That's a character that he plays. I mean,

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Speaker 5: that's a cool.

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Speaker 4: Concept, but I'm not people are screaming by the way

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Speaker 4: out there.

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Speaker 1: Free Guy. Free Guy is the.

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Speaker 5: Name of the movie.

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Speaker 4: Never heard of it? Oh okay, now, okay, anyway, if

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Speaker 4: you like this band I have, Yeah, And why wouldn't

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Speaker 4: you go to forballers dot com sign up to be

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Speaker 4: part of the Patreon community. So I'll giveaway dot com

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Speaker 4: one more time. Ready, bush Mini helmet up for grabs.

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Speaker 4: And finally, don't forget to follow on social media Dan.

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Speaker 4: So all I got.

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Speaker 1: It's all I have for that guy there, my good.

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Speaker 4: Friend, snowy and blustery in wintry Chicago, Illinois, from myself,

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Speaker 4: Tie Hilton brand over here in good old PA. We

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Speaker 4: will talk to you all next week. In the meantime,

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Speaker 4: stay solid, peace,