1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: This is a young team. We're on the cuffs where 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: we gotta have some pieces to what we're doing here. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: Piers running Rice. It's been moved carrolls way down to 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: the forty one yard line. You want to run five Piers. 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: The type of players that we're looking for are players 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: who are looking to Swans that acep that question. Harris 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: gain days every day, picked off by Stanley Paytred. Texans 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: have the ball on the pit. The takeaway train is ruling, 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: and if you want it, you gotta go work. No, 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: it's Texans. All exis good evening, Hello Texans, Mark Vandermy 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: or John Harris with you as we are live on 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: New Year's Day. That's right, Happy New Year everyone, the 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: league New Year starts today. It feels like it's been 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: going on for a while, but this is the official 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: start of it all as the NFL kicks in this 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: afternoon to a time where you can sign the free 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: agents that you've been negotiating with where you have to 18 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: be under a certain number cap wise, and it's all 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: gonna be very interesting in the next few weeks as 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: teams continue to jockey for these available free agents. But 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: they had to get to the number today they did. 22 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: I haven't heard of anybody who didn't. And we will 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: continue to see player acquisition from the Texans from other teams. 24 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Of course, the draft is coming up, but let's start 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: right here. We have a lot to talk to about 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: the Texans and Aaron Rodgers and other teams around the league. 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: But I want to get to the Texans, Johnny, because 28 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: John Harris is with us, of course, because Sheldon Rankins 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: reportedly becomes a Texan, and I wanted to get your take. 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: We're talking about position groups last night. D Line was 31 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: one of them, of course, and you have Malik Collins 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: coming back. Of course, we mentioned some of the other 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: new guys, some of the established guys who are returning 34 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: as well. But now you add Rankins to the mix. 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: What do you think of the group? Now? What does 36 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: he bring to the table? Good evening, well, good evening. 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: Here's the thing that stood out to me. This was 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: my thought when I saw Sheldon Rankins was signing with 39 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: the Texans. I just close my eyes for a second 40 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: and I saw Damko Ryan's in his office watching twenty 41 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: twenty two film and maybe even watching twenty twenty one, 42 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: and then yelling down the hallway. Hey, yo, Matt, we 43 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: ain't gonna finish second to last or first to last 44 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: against the run anymore. Go go get Let's get some 45 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: defensive linemen. Tell Nick what we need, and let's do it. 46 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: I gonna see him just like yelling down the hallway 47 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: like we aren't finishing last again against the run or 48 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: second to last against the run. Those days are over. 49 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: And then Nick said, all right, let's go what you need, 50 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: what you want, let me go get what you want 51 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: and brings in Hassan Ridgeway and then brings in Sheldon 52 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: Ranking Shelter Rankings. This is my scouting report back in 53 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen when he came out of the draft at 54 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: the Combine, he jumped thirty four and a half inch 55 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: on the vertical just over five flat in the forty 56 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: two hundred ninety nine pund which is really impressive. He 57 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: was incredible at the senior ball. I remember that. I 58 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: remember the first day that he went. The next couple 59 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: of days he was banged up. With the first day 60 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: he was dominant, plays with a ton of leverage, can 61 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: rocket guards center, walking back in the quarterback, powerful bass, 62 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: not gonna move him off the ball, even versus double teams. 63 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: He just clogs up the space without getting moved. He'll 64 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: push the pocket but doesn't whip out of ridy of 65 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: pass rush moves. But he's learned and just seeing what 66 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: he was what he had done with the Jets from 67 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: a pass rush perspective, he beat Singleton. If you're gonna 68 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: single him in the run, in the pass game, he's 69 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: gonna win. He's gonna have an opportunity to win. I 70 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: think this is a this a rock star move. I 71 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: was all about this when I saw this. Now here's 72 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: a caveat. There were three years kind of mixed in 73 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: New Orleans the Jets where he didn't play a lot 74 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: of games. He hasn't played a ton of games even 75 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: though he's been in the league. He had like two 76 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: or three years where he missed a significant amount of 77 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: time due to injury. But he got back on the 78 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: field last year as a twenty seven year old twenty 79 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: I think twenty eight right now, I think twenty nine 80 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: pretty soon. He still got some ball left. He's still 81 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: got some ball left. So he's gonna end up being 82 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: a guy that you put in there and your rotation 83 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: is ridgeway. Malik Rankins Lopez Highness, Booker, whoever else you 84 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: want to put in there at that point. And I 85 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: think it's probably a wise thing to go out and 86 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: find a draft pick or two, even an undrafted guy. 87 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: I mean, like you got Highis last year. Absolutely, you 88 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: just bring him to the party. And one of the 89 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: things that in going back and watching some of the 90 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: San Francisco film in the last couple of years, the 91 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: one thing I know Edward talks about the first round 92 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: picks that they brought in. You know, Nick Bosa, javon Kin, 93 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: Law Armstead, they had Buckner for a while. They had 94 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: first round picks for days, right, but Mark. They would 95 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: rotate eight linemen consistently and there was no drop off. 96 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: Ridgeway would come off the field and they would put 97 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: in Kevin Gibbons, and Gibbons would do the same thing. 98 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: Or Gibbons would come off the field, Ridgeway, We'll go 99 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: back in. And they were fresh and they were good. 100 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: So when you see well Man, they spent a lot 101 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: of money in the interior. Yeah, because the interior got 102 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: its butt kicked last year, especially when Lee Collins was out, 103 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: when Malik was out. It was a field day. Teams 104 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: did whatever they wanted to to us. So now you 105 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: have Malik back, hopefully healthy. You have Ridgeway back hopefully healthy, 106 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: and now you got Rankings back, hopefully healthy. You have 107 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: those three and you can rotate them. You add another 108 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: dynamic young piece to go with what you got, and 109 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: I think you now have the makings on the interior 110 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: that you're not gonna be. I don't think you're gonna 111 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: be first in the league against the run just yet, 112 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: but I don't think you're gonna be thirty first or 113 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: thirty second. I feel like those days. Those days are over. Now. 114 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: Now you gotta focus. Okay, what do we have it 115 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: on the edge? Do we have edge setters? Do we 116 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: have guys that could set the edge in the run 117 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: game out there? John Grenar can do it when he's healthy. 118 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: I think Chase Winovich can do it when he's healthy. 119 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: Do we have some guys that can win one on 120 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: one and get to the quarterback in the past game, 121 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: because you now have a secondary when you throw Jimmy 122 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: Ward back there, that can buy you maybe another half 123 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: second to get to the quarterback. So I still think 124 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: there are a couple of pieces needing on a defensive 125 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: line mark. But Sheldon Rankins coming in. I didn't see 126 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: that coming at all. I did not see it. I 127 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: did not see that happening. They got Ridgeway. I thought, okay, man, 128 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: that's that's maybe enough. But I just the theory if 129 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: you can't have enough dudes up front, enough quick fast, 130 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: that's the other thing too, Malik. Ridgeway and Rankings aren't 131 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: just you know, three hundred and thirty pounds and is 132 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: holding up gaps like they're quick. They're really really quick, 133 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: but they can hold up against the double team. I 134 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: was watching Rankings today against the Jaguars and the Thursday 135 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: night game, and they try to double him and he 136 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna get moved a little bit on a double team, 137 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 1: but he fought back against it. Split the double team, 138 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: knock Luke forward in at the center back into the gap, 139 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: and if you've gotten some help from linebackers, it would 140 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: have been a one or two yard game. So Rankins 141 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: is going to help this run game, no doubt. I mean, 142 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: if you can't tell, I'm pretty excited about this with 143 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: Mark absolutely and a reminder, a nightly reminder, especially during 144 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: free agency, Texans reportedly pick up a player or two 145 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: or more and in the evening, you check in with 146 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: John Harris and he's watched a tape. He's done the 147 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: work for you. Not that you would know, mister ORMs listener, 148 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: what to look for these particular situations, but we all 149 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: like to look from time to time. You know, we 150 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: all have opinions on these things. But Johnny has the opinion, 151 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: the information, and he's done the work for you. He 152 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: just gave you the lowdown on Sheldon Rankins. All right, 153 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: back to Texans stuff. In just a moment, Aaron Rodgers 154 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,119 Speaker 1: Big Story of the Day goes on the Pat McAfee show, 155 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: talks about emerging from the darkness. I heard the soundbites 156 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: on the Clint and Ron Show. I don't know Wade 157 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: is there today, and I thought, really we have when 158 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: I came out of the darkness. That was literally a 159 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: quote a half quote when I came out of the darkness. 160 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: So when people are so supremely gifted and talented at something, 161 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: I guess they're allowed to talk that way to us 162 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: normal people. But it just sounds so full of self. 163 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: But I guess when you're that good at something, okay, 164 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: have at it. Anyway, Rogers says he wants to go 165 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: to the Jets. It's the comp that is the sticking 166 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: point right now. The Packers want so much they don't 167 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: agree John. This reminds me of how well Nick Cassario 168 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: treated the Watson situation. Hey, this is what we want. 169 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: Send me the basic structure of an offer, because you 170 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: know there were probably some adjustments, and I believe there 171 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: were even with the Browns along the way, but he 172 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: wanted the basic components set in advance before you are 173 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: allowed to go ahead and talk with the player. Right, 174 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: So this didn't happen here. If it did, it's all 175 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: gone wrong because we still don't have a deal with 176 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: Rogers officially. Going to the Jets. Your thoughts. I know 177 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: it's not apples to apples in a situation, but it 178 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: just reminds me of how well Nick handled that situation 179 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: versus what's happening here, which is really holding up two 180 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: franchises and clogging the news feeds of everybody following this league. Yeah, 181 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: no doubt, the news feeds are the most important thing. 182 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: I think what fascinates me and I give Nick all 183 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: the credit in the world for this. There was no 184 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: there was no guidelines, There was no roadmap for how 185 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: you handle that entire situation with the Shawn Watson none, 186 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: there was none, and I know this trade ended up 187 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: going poorly for the Indianapolis Colts. But when the Indianapolis 188 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: Colts made the deal for Carson Wentz, they went and 189 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: found the deal for Alex Smith that the chiefs and 190 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: the commanders formula at the time. Redskins made deal for 191 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: Alex Smith, and then the Colts just went, Okay, we'll 192 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: do it like that. We want that's the deal. And 193 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: that was the exact deal that they they offered to 194 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: get Carson Wentz from the Eagles, so they had something 195 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: to model it after. What did Nick Assario have to 196 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: model after with this DeShawn situation? There's nothing, So at 197 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: that point he's pulling that from where I mean wherever. 198 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: But the way that he steered the ship on that 199 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: makes me think, and this kind of ties into current 200 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: Texans makes me think that David Mulghetta as an agent, 201 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: respected the way that Nick handled business. And that becomes 202 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: important because Dayla Mulighetta is the agent for C. J. Stroud. 203 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: So maybe in the end there was not hard feelings. 204 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: Maybe there was, Look, this is business, is how we're 205 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: going to handle it, and both sides handled business the 206 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: way they were supposed to. Deshaun and his team got 207 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: an opportunity to share their story and what they wanted 208 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: to do with the Panthers, the Saints and the Browns 209 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: and the Falcons, and Nick allowed him do that. Hey, 210 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: go do this. We'll set up the parameters of the deal. 211 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: But here's the outline. Here's what it is, here's what 212 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: you gotta do. If you have the wherewithal to do it, 213 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: you could talk to de Sean. If not, forget it. 214 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: I feel like, with no roadmap, the way that he 215 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: handled that situation and overall they handle that situation was 216 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: absolutely as perfect as it could be. Now when you're 217 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: allowing and I guess in this situation, it's sort of 218 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: du I mean it. I mean Aaron Rodgers has to 219 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: a decide whether he's going to play. That's the biggest thing, 220 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: I guess. And so somewhere in the darkness he decided, Okay, 221 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play, or maybe when he emerged in the darkness, 222 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: he's like, I'm not gonna play. And then somebody handed 223 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: the paper and go, hey you shoot. The packers are 224 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: saying about you. Oh, I'm gonna play now. I don't know, 225 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: but it's just it's messy and it was gonna be 226 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: messy because it dude is he's in his forties. Are 227 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: what are the Jets expecting to get? What are the 228 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: Packers thinking they should get? Because in some sense the 229 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: Packers have leverage, but they really don't. So it's just 230 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 1: really it's really confusing in this situation. What what is 231 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: going to happen? I mean, Rogers is like, oh, I 232 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: want to go to the Jets now. So do the 233 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: Packers look bad if they're asking for a certain amount 234 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: of a trade? Do the Jets look bad if they 235 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: don't pull the trigger on a trade? I don't know. 236 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: It just it feels very very messy market. I don't 237 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't care for messy all that much. 238 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: And that's why I was really really happy the way 239 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: that Nick had had worked everything with that to sean trade. Well, 240 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: I think it's safe to assume Rogers will be a 241 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: Jet at some point. And the Jets finished last in 242 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: the AFC East at seven and ten. They were going 243 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: good for a while, but it all cratered season, ending 244 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: with a six game losing streak, and the Texans will 245 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: be at the Jets this year. So the Jets are 246 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: on that road schedule traveling Texans go to the Metal Lands. 247 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: I just flew over MetLife Stadium yesterday looking down at 248 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: it and thinking we're gonna be there. Will we see 249 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in a Jet uniform? It certainly looks that way. 250 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: So the Jets, let's just say, Johnny that they are 251 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: one of the teams and we're gonna go through this 252 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: quickly that knows who their starting quarterback is going to be. 253 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: And I think now we could say everybody in the 254 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: AFC East knows who their starting quarterback is going to be, 255 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: with the Jets having Aaron Rodgers, the Patriots with Mac 256 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: Jones and this is barring something weird happening. The Dolphins 257 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: with Tuah could something really weird happen there? And the 258 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills of course with Josh Allen. Let's move it 259 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: to the AFC South though, And with the Texans, who's 260 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: it gonna be? Is it somebody they draft? Is in 261 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: case Kingdom Davis Mills or even EJ. Perry who's on 262 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: the roster right now after they signed him when he 263 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: was let go by the Jacksonville Jaguars and John I 264 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: wanted you to spend a quick second or two here, 265 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: Maybe more than a second or two, but a moment, 266 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: if you will, on EJ. Perry, who went to your 267 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: alma mater and he's the nephew of former Texans receivers 268 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: coach John Perry. You might have hit this earlier in 269 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: the week, or maybe even last week. I'm not sure. 270 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: But he's twenty four years old, six two two ten. 271 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: He's got some tools. What do you think of EJ. Perry? 272 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: Not that he's gonna be around forever, but look, he's here. 273 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: We have to evaluate. What do you think he's a 274 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: better throwing, less athletic Jeff Driscoll. He can run the 275 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: ball when he I mean he can run the ball 276 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: and can I mean he's a pretty powerful guy, so 277 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean he can run the ball and get out 278 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: to the corner. I think he is a more accurate passer. 279 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: But he spent his life basically Ivy League. Well at 280 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: least that's what people would tell you. However, to me, 281 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: the game that mattered the most in EJ. Perry's evaluation 282 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: is what he did the one game he was at 283 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: Boston College. Well, he's there, for a whole season. When 284 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: he's at Boston College, quarterback got hurt. The Anthony Brown 285 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: was quarterback in Boston College before transferring to Oregon. Brown 286 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: got hurt early in the game against Clemson in twenty eighteen. 287 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: That put that put EJ. Out on the field against 288 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: Clemson's defense that was absolutely slaploaded, just loaded, and he 289 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: held his own man. He threw a touchdown pass. I 290 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: believe in that game. He ran for a couple of 291 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: big scrambles. He kept Boston College in that game against 292 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and Clemson somehow, some way. So he's he's 293 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: got a chip on his shoulder. And his older brother 294 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: coached him, James Perry, who is the brother of John Perry, 295 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: who used to be a Texas wide receivers coach. So 296 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: that's the way I look at it. EJ. Perry is 297 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: a better throwing but less athletic Jeff Driscoll, but kind 298 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: of the same mindset. You know, if if Jeff's passing 299 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: got better and EJ's athleticism was better, you'd have the 300 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: same exact guy. But but you don't. You got a 301 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: really smart, tough, physical quarterback who can do some things, 302 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: and you try and you know, you grow with him 303 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: and you see what happens. Look, brock Perty, you nobody 304 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: thought Bertie's getting on the field. You know who's just SAYEJ. 305 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: Perio at some points doesn't getting on the field and 306 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: shows what he can do in this offense. So h yeah. 307 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: I when it comes to the Texans, I have no 308 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: idea who's the starter. Mark. We are one of those 309 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: teams where you do not know who the starter is. 310 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: We are not We are the anti AFC East at 311 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: this point. We do not know. But we're not alone, 312 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: all right. So the rest of the AFCs, yeah, we're 313 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: not alone, the rest of the AFC South. Let's go 314 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: with the Cults, Titans and Jaguars. The Cults, that's an unknown. 315 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: The Titans you would figure Ryan Tannehill tell me if 316 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm wrong there. And the Jags we all know who's 317 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: starting down in Jacksonville. Yeah, I'm not even totally confident 318 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Ryan Tannehill. The Titans kind of amazed 319 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: me in some sense. They let go of all these 320 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: contracts and then they go and sign as ziz Al Shayer. 321 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: Then they gave money and I'm trying to draw blanket 322 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: on and who the other player they signed. Dang, it's 323 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: driving me crazy now, but they signed another player that 324 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: was there was some hefty bucks with that, and so 325 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: it's not like they got the full on tank. But 326 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: should they? I don't know. The Titans are really interesting 327 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: to me. I'm not totally convinced that Ryan Tannehill will 328 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: be the starter. So I think three spots in the 329 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: AFC South are up for grabs. To be honest, I 330 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: think they are. M Okay, let's go with the three 331 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: in the AFC West. Chiefs check, Chargers check, Raiders check, 332 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: Broncos check. So all four their AFC North Bengals of course, Ravens. 333 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: Are you gonna go Jackson goes somewhere or Jackson stays? 334 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: This is kind of like a more likely to happen. 335 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna do who's better later, by the way, but 336 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: this is a more likely to happen. Jackson stays, Jackson goes, 337 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: he's franchised currently. I just feel like they're now is 338 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: getting to that not vitriol stage, vitriolic stage. But it 339 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: doesn't feel very comfortable in Baltimore. And I'm gonna go 340 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: out on a limb and say Lamar ends up somewhere else. Now, 341 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: this is the thing whenever I get mad at people 342 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: in there who goes somewhere else, I'm like, Okay, well 343 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 1: where's he going? That's the part I'm having trouble figuring 344 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: out where is he going. Atlanta is the one team 345 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: that gets mentioned probably more often than any of their team, 346 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: But I don't know that Atlanta is doing that. I mean, 347 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: maybe Atlanta is gonna kind of slow play that thing 348 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: and see oh thank you Tyler Millner. Arden Key, that's right, 349 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: arden Key signing with the Titans. Why I wanted the 350 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: Texans to go get dang it. So it's not like 351 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: they're full on tanking because they're signed free agents and 352 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: some dudes that can play. So anyways, that's the Titans. 353 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess Atlanta there's gotta be a 354 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: wild card team with Lamar Jackson. I mean, I kind 355 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: of thought Washington for a little bit, but then washingtonside 356 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: ja Kobe Brissette to go Sam Howell, so I think 357 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: they'll roll with them with the thought of, yeah, if 358 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't work, we'll just draft the one of twenty 359 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: twenty four because we'll be bad enough to go get one. 360 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: So I just don't know it just kind of going 361 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: through the teams in my head. I'm not sure he 362 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: ends up where it makes where it makes sense. So 363 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: I do think he's gone from Baltimore, but I'm not 364 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: sure that I have a really good location of where 365 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: he goes. And that's that's gonna bother me because it 366 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: makes me it makes you sound like a hypocrite, because 367 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: I should have an answer, but I can't figure out one. 368 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: I just don't get a feel that Baltimore. He wants 369 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: to go back to Baltimore. So is he gonna take 370 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: a lesser deal to go somewhere else? And by the way, 371 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: who offers him the lesser deals? I don't know. Maybe Indianapolis, 372 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: Oh God, please no, please not Indianapolis. But I don't 373 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: think you can rule it out, I guess at this 374 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: point because they don't have anybody. All right, how's this 375 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: for a how many sizzle fires for this hot take theory? 376 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: Regarding Washington, You're right, Brissette going there. They have Sam Howell, 377 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: but that could all be an insurance policy in case 378 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: they don't land Lamar Jackson, and with them prepping to 379 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: sell the team the price undetermined, you acquire Lamar Jackson. 380 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: I know, you part with Draft Capital in order to 381 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: get Lamar Jackson, but now you're selling the car with 382 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: leather interior. You added something really special to the franchise. 383 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: Maybe that's worth another corner bill when you're coming up 384 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: with the final price point. I'm not sure. Yeah, I 385 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: mean I could kind of see that. I mean, I've 386 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: seen people say on the social media's saying, yeah, just 387 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: stick the next owners with the bill, But then that 388 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: takes away from the amount of return that you're gonna 389 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: get because that two hundred and fifty million that could 390 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: be coming back to you, you just stuck it in 391 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: the deal basically to give to Lamar Jackson. So yeah, 392 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's gonna be kind of interesting to 393 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: watch that whole thing unfold. And that's why Washington, I mean, 394 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,239 Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm Lamar at that point, I'm like, 395 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe in a year, if Washington's ownership settle, 396 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: maybe I would do it. But nah, I'm good. You know, 397 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: the more the more I think about it, Mark, the 398 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: more it feels like he's just gonna end up going 399 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: back to Baltimore. But I don't know, it just doesn't 400 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: feel right. It doesn't feel right at this point. It 401 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: feels like there's been bad blood sort of rising, but 402 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 1: it just feels like there's not a really good location 403 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: that makes sense. I just don't see Ballard given up 404 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: two picks to do it. I could be wrong, and 405 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: I hope I'm right, but I could kind of see that. God, 406 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: I do not want to see Lamar Jackson in freaking Indie. 407 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no no. We were terrified he 408 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: was gonna go to Jacksonville on Draft night. He did. 409 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: Obviously we don't want him back in the division. But 410 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: this exercise is about who can name their starting quarterback 411 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: week one today? Right? So now we have seven teams 412 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: in the AFC who cannot safely do it because the 413 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: Raven can't say, oh yeah, for sure it's Lamar Jackson, right, 414 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: they can't do and this is all barring injury anyway. 415 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: So that's seven squads right there, quickly in the NFC 416 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: in the East Eagles, fine, Dallas, yes, Giants, yes, Commanders. 417 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: I can't say who their starter is? Is it? How 418 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: is it Brosette? Is it Jackson? If they acquire him? 419 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna write that as a as a number, right, there, Vikings, yes, Lions, yes, 420 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: Packers No, you would you would presume Jordan love. So 421 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: they have either or here Rogers Rogers not staying it's 422 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: love love right. They're not gonna do anything else here, 423 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: are they? No, it's love. Okay, let's go to the 424 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: NFC South Buccaneers. We don't know. Is it Baker Mayfield? Okay? 425 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: Quick thumbnail on Baker in Tampa Bay where they have Trask. Still, 426 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: I said they said the night, and I know what 427 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: Kyle Trask has been through and what he did when 428 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: he was at Man in what he carved out a 429 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: career at Florida. I just don't see it. I really 430 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: don't see it. I think it's Baker. I think they'll 431 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: give Baker an opportunity, and maybe they give Trash an opportunity. 432 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: They'll they'll pitch as Oh, these guys are are fighting 433 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: for that number one spot. But I think in their 434 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: heart they know it's to give them an opportunity. It's 435 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: gonna end up being Baker Mayfield and Tampa so that 436 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: that's but they're gonna pitch it as a competition. So 437 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: in our in our little scenario here, Mark, we can't 438 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: give it. We can't give them a thumbs up because 439 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: it's not set in stone. I think it's gonna they're 440 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna pitch it as a competition, but I 441 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: don't think it is. I think it's gonna be baker, 442 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: but they don't know that right now, so we can't 443 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: put them in that category. All right, We're up to 444 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: ten then, because Carolina obviously they can't name a starter 445 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: right now. Saints they can, Atlanta can. But would they declare? 446 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: Have they declared it? We're riding with Ritter. Have they 447 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: said that? Or are they a waiting and sing? Okay, 448 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: I want to say no, I'm gonna say they can't 449 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: say it. I still think Jackson, even though they said no, 450 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: that's a possibility there. I'm just gonna say it for 451 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: this exercise. So that's eleven. And then in the NFC 452 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: West forty nine ers they have guys, but can anybody 453 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: really do it healthwise or otherwise? I'm gonna say they 454 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: can't safely name their starter right now. There's twelve. Seattle 455 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: they got their guy the Rams, Yes, okay, fine, what 456 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: about these trade rumors? And Arizona? No, Johnny. That's thirteen 457 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: of the thirty two who cannot safely name a starter 458 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: for opening day right now. That is interesting about this 459 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: league and I think that feeds this hot stove that 460 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: we have going with the NFL in the offseason. Yeah, absolutely, 461 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 1: and it really I'm sure Roger Gurdell's in his office 462 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: doing what all of us are doing, and that is 463 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,719 Speaker 1: refreshing every thirty seconds to see who it's gonna be, 464 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: who's gonna end up where. This is exactly I think 465 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: what the NFL wants mark. The NCAA Tournament started last night. 466 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: I totally forgot about it. I am refreshing every thirty 467 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: seconds to see who's who's signing where and what's going 468 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: on where it's it really right now and look that 469 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: the heart of it will start tomorrow and the the 470 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: the I don't say the NFL dies down. It don't 471 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: really die down, but it slows down a little bit, 472 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: so it kind of finds its way back into the conscious. 473 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: But the NCAA Tournament has, you know, it's just kind 474 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: of falls on deaf years. It used to be everything 475 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: in March. My point in that is Roger Goodell is 476 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: dominating every single month, like yeah, but the schedule release 477 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: in May because we don't have anything in May. Do 478 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: conditioning in April, so all the guys are back in 479 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: the building, so you get all kinds of interviews. March 480 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: that's gonna be you know, come by month, and that's 481 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: gonna be free agency. That's gonna dominate the month. They 482 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: dominate every freaking month. There is for gets a little 483 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: quieter in June, obviously, but you have OTAs and mini 484 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: camps going on. Then July pretty quiet first three weeks, 485 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: and then the league erupts in late July. It is 486 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: brilliantly put together right now. And you're right. I'm an 487 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: NCAA tournament, you know, junkie, really and I did watch 488 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: a big chunk of both games last night, but it's 489 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: not the same. It doesn't feel the same. Now when 490 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: I say it's not the same, this is the first 491 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: fourth thing. I have doubleheaders last night tonight. Good luck 492 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: to TSU, by the way, best to luck to them 493 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: as they go tonight and tomorrow. Obviously it's just a 494 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: Texas fest. In the NCAA tournament and free agency, the 495 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: initial burst starts dying down pretty quickly, but you still 496 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of activity, especially if your team, whoever 497 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: that team is decides to do some extra moves, and 498 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: there are plenty of extra moves to be made, because 499 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: that's just how this thing is put together. All right. 500 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: Next up, we are gonna do Who's Better. Plus a 501 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: former Texans quarterback has been acquired by a new team 502 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: and it caps a sequence of moves that turns out 503 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: to be kind of like a trade. We'll talk about 504 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: that and then some here on Texans Radio, we return 505 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: to Texans All Excess many Marion. John Harris with you. 506 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: Great to have you for the ride wherever you're going tonight, 507 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: or if you're listening on a podcast later walking your 508 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: dog like I do at evening time, because that's my routine. 509 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: I listened to podcasts. Sometimes I air check ours that 510 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: would be listening to your own work later. Sometimes I 511 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: do that, or listen to a six ten podcast, or 512 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: I still listen to the Rewatchables from the Ringer because 513 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm a movie buff, and some other stuff as well. 514 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: All right, that's it for the podcast hour. Now let's 515 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: get back to business here, Johnny as Kyle Allen has 516 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: signed with the Buffalo Bills. We'll get to Who's Better 517 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: in just a second here, but Alan goes to the bills. 518 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: Keenam comes here. Interesting thoughts. Yeah, it's a trade straight up, 519 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: two former Coogs. How about that? Two former Coogs getting 520 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: traded for one another essentially At that point, I think 521 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: that I said this. I can't remember who I was 522 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: on with I maybe it was Withdrew. I was talking 523 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: about case Kim leaving Buffalo, and I just I feel 524 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: like Josh Alatico miss him. No Kyle Allen in Houston, 525 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: everything that we heard about him was he was a 526 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: great teammate. He understood every situation, very smart and great 527 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: to have around. Kind of self deprecating. Just the two 528 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: games that he played just were not this. It was 529 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: he just didn't do much with that opportunity, unfortunately, and 530 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: it was tough. It was two decent defenses he had 531 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: to face, so it was tough. But he's gonna go 532 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: sit beyond Josh Allen and probably not play at all, 533 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: knowing what we know about Josh Allen. If he's got 534 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: to play, okay, it gets kind of interesting in Buffalo, 535 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: but he's gonna have a pretty good supporting cast at 536 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: this point. We'll see how it's the on Diggs likes it. 537 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: If Josh Allen isn't playing. But but you know, wide 538 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: receivers are divas. That's just kind of the way they 539 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: are at that point. But I think that Josh Allen 540 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: will miss Case Keenum in some way, shape or form. 541 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: So I think the Texans getting Case Keenum. I said 542 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: this to Drew case Keenum impacts winning in your building 543 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three and beyond forever long. He's here, 544 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: no matter what role he plays, whether he is the 545 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: whether he is on the field playing, whether he is 546 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: holding the clipboard, whether he is on the sidelines, whether 547 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: he's the third quarterback not active that day, Case keenom 548 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: is gonna impact winning in twenty twenty three and beyond 549 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 1: forever long. He's here, He's going to impact winning, and 550 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: that no matter what, whether he's taking a snap, not 551 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: taking any snaps, he is going to impact winning with 552 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: his leadership on the fields, a leadership in the meeting room, 553 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: with a young quarterback presumably that we're thinking's gonna come here. 554 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: So I think Case Keenum is the right fit for 555 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: this team at this time and for a team that 556 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: presumably we'll be playing and hopefully a young quarterback in 557 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. All right, let's get to who's better? 558 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: And we'll start it off here with the hot league 559 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: news of the day with Aaron Rodgers saying, yeah, I 560 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: want to go to New York, but the Green Bay 561 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: Packers are just holding up the process with comp requests. 562 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: So we'll find out where that goes. But who's better? 563 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: Projection here, Johnny, who's better with their next team? What 564 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: we got out of Tom Brady and Tampa Bay, or 565 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: what we will get from Aaron Rodgers with the New 566 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 1: York Jets. Who's better? You have to go into the 567 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: future and look back at what Rogers did. Yeah, no doubt. 568 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: Brady walked into a situation where you have Mike Evans, 569 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: Chris Godwin yet offensive line that was really, really good. 570 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: And then they added playoff Lenny by the playoffs because 571 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: he didn't do anything in the regular season, and so 572 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: that also helped Brady. I don't quite think Rogers supporting 573 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: cast is at that level just yet. I think the 574 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: Jets defense is pretty close to the Bucks defense. I 575 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: still give the Bucks an edge in twenty twenty in 576 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: that way. I don't know that the Jets offensive line 577 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: now if the Jets offensive line that they project to 578 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: start all stays healthy. Oh boy, now it gets now 579 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: it gets kind of interesting. But I thought today was 580 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: intriguing because Vegas made them the fourth best odds to 581 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl or to win the AFC, excuse me, 582 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: behind Bengals, Bills, Chiefs, number four, Jets. Wow, that's kind 583 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: of amazing, though. That's kind of amazing to think about. 584 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: It really is. But I still think it was the 585 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: fact that the Chiefs, the fact that the Chiefs are 586 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: third in that it just shows you that I don't 587 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, see if they win it again, everybody, 588 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't remember the or I just 589 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: remember the teams. I don't remember the ord. I think 590 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are the number one team. I think you're 591 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: went Chiefs, Bill's Bengals. But don't don't quote me on it. 592 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: I just remember those were the teams that were ahead 593 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: of the Jets. And that's the thing. How many years 594 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: have we gone, well, there are only three teams ahead 595 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: of the Jets as far as strength of of you know, 596 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: power strength in the AFC. What have we said that? 597 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: So that's what Rodgers can mean, uh, not only to 598 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: the Jets, but to the AFC as a whole. One 599 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: sentence answer I have just made you general manager of 600 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: the New York Jets. Would you give up two ones 601 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers right now? Nope? Okay, Yeah, that was good. 602 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: That was good. That was good. We gotta get back 603 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: to who's better. I just thought of that, and I 604 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: wanted to get that out. All right, I've got another Rodgers, 605 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: one better quarterback choice? Who's better? Better quarterback choice? If 606 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: you have one game to win, you get this guy 607 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: in his prime, Aaron Rodgers, or let's just go old school, 608 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: John Elway. Aaron Rodgers or John Elway one game to win? 609 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: Better choice? Who is it? Oh that's a good one. 610 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: That's a really good I thought you're gonna say Brady, 611 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: And I've always got my answer for that. Brady is 612 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: the one I would take every time, all day. Every day, 613 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm taking Brady Patrick Mahomes is creeping up there. Rogers 614 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: would be the one I would say next. But man, 615 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: Elway was so good, he was so good to clutch. 616 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: I know he lost some Super Bowls, he was out 617 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: gunned badly in those Super Bowls, but man, he was clutch, clutch, clutch. 618 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: I think you could say that about Aaron Rodgers. But 619 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: if you start thinking about you know, when when did 620 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: he have those? He had the one against the Cowboys 621 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: to throw to Jared Cook on the sidelines. It was incredible. 622 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: I think I'm talking to myself into Elway on this one. 623 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: As much as I think Aaron Rodgers is one of 624 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: the top three throwers of the football that we've ever seen, 625 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: I think Elway is win that group too. So I'm 626 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 1: gonna go with Elway made some clutch plays, came up 627 00:33:54,720 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: big a championship time. I think I'll go with John Elway. Well, 628 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: I think it's enormously difficult to get to the Super Bowl. 629 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: Winning that championship game is a gigantic step. Obviously winning 630 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: the Super Bowls the next one. But I respect guys 631 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: who get there an awful lot, like Jim Kelly who 632 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: got to four but lost them all, Elway who got 633 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: to five but lost three, even Peyton Manning. Look at 634 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning got to what four super Bowls, lost two 635 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: one two. I respect the heck out of Peyton Manning 636 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: for what he did in that category. When you execute 637 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: in the playoffs like that, I know everyone's gonna at 638 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: me about well, in indeed, he didn't do this and 639 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: didn't do that for a lot of the time. Anyway, 640 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: let's get to the next one here, who's better? Better 641 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: quarterback class? Twenty twenty or twenty twenty three? So twenty 642 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: twenty and I know I don't have to refresh your 643 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: memory here, but maybe some others as Joe Burrow goes 644 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: number one, and we have Justin Herbert going sixth, and 645 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: then who else in the first round? Jordan Love, whoever 646 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: he is and however he is, He's currently sitting on 647 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: the bench in Green Bay hoping that Rogers moves out quickly. 648 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: By the way, the NFL memes people had a classic 649 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: Rogers one of his requests is that they obtain Jordan 650 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: Love as well, so he can continue to sit on 651 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: the bench behind him for another couple of years. I 652 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: thought that was great anyway, Better quarterback class, Johnny, who 653 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: is it? Twenty twenty? I mean we've seen it on 654 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: the field, but Joe Burrows turned into one of the 655 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: top I mean top three quarterbacks in the league. I 656 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: mean argue, I mean Mahomes won argue two through four, 657 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 1: Ta went healthy too, has been outstanding. And then you've 658 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,919 Speaker 1: got Justin Herbert, and now we'll see what Jordan loves 659 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: got and Hurts and hurts. So you had all four 660 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: of them. The key to this group is, is there 661 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: going to be a guy whether it's Handin Hooker or 662 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: whether it's Jake Hayner or somebody off the beaten path. 663 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: You know. I know there's a lot of talk about 664 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: Tanner McKee and not a big fan of him, but 665 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: Aidan O'Connell from Purdy. Is there some other quarterback, you know, 666 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: maybe even a Dorian Thompson Robinson from UCLA that kind 667 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: of becomes that hurts, you know, in a second round 668 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: or later, that kind of comes out of nowhere. I mean, 669 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: nobody expected Purty last year. So is there a quarterback 670 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: like that that helps? You know, Young and Stroud and 671 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: you know Levis Richardson. I just think between Levis and 672 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 1: Richardson you might get one guy between the two of them. 673 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: I think Young and Stroud are pretty solid, but I 674 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: don't think they're at that level of the twenty twenty class. 675 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: I felt really good about the twenty twenty class during 676 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: that draft. I felt good. Even Herbert was I think 677 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: Herbert was my lowest quarterback there. No, I'm sorry, Love 678 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: was my lowest quarterback. It was like fourteen or fifteen, 679 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: and these guys I've got. I got Richardson at like 680 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: twenty or twenty one, and I got Levis at thirty 681 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: four or thirty five. So I even thought twenty twenty 682 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: was that much better at the time. So I'm gonna 683 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: go at twenty twenty. I think that group is just 684 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: too good. It's just too good. Man, A group is 685 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: silly good, holy smokes. True or false. If Davis Mills 686 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two had thrown forward let's say, twenty 687 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: eight touchdowns, ten picks, sixty seven percent completion rate, Tanner 688 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: McKee is going in the first round. Mark, I am 689 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: not a fan of Tanner McKee. I'm the wrong person 690 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: to ask about that, because I'm still saying no. I 691 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: just I see I see a lot of Brock Osweiler 692 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: in his game. And I was not a big fan 693 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: of Brock. You know this. I told you this, and 694 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: I said this on the air in twenty twelve when 695 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: Brock was coming out. I was not a fan. And 696 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: so when Brock came to the Texans, I was like, oh, man, 697 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm conflicted now because I really want him to do well, 698 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: but I want my draft evaluation to be right, and 699 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: unfortunately my draft evaluation was right. I just get a 700 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 1: Brock Osweiler vibe from McKee, So I don't I don't 701 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: think Tanner McKee. I don't think Davis's lack of success 702 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: major success in twenty twenty two plays a role with 703 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: Tanner McKee anywhere else, but maybe in Houston. I think 704 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: in Houston it's probably you look at it and go, well, no, 705 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: it's the same, and we have a tendency to do that. 706 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,479 Speaker 1: They're the same guy. No, No, just because they played 707 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: the same university does not make them the same guy 708 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: at all, in the same quarterback. That's very fair, and 709 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: I'm just being talk radio guy with that stuff. Fine, 710 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: because I nobody wanted Davis Mills to have a great 711 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: season more than me, well maybe a few people like 712 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: the Mills family Texas fans, well, not more than me, 713 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 1: but as much as me. But mcketh being six six, yeah, 714 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: you get an Oswylder vibe from him. I can see 715 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: that that's probably a pretty good comp at this point. 716 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: Oswylder had some talent but obviously did not pan out 717 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 1: the way you wanted it too. Okay, the last one 718 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: give it to me. After the break the last Who's 719 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: better is better option at twelve? Nolan Smith from Georgia. 720 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: These are edge guys, Lucas van Ness from Iowa. So 721 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna get that to me after the break and 722 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: we'll get everybody caught up on what is going on 723 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: around the league. As Sheldon Rankins has reportedly agreed to 724 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: terms with the Houston Texans, who have not released the 725 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: list of signings yet. I think it's going to take 726 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: a few minutes, maybe days, maybe whatever time it takes 727 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: to ink these guys and get them all on one list. 728 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: So we'll keep you posted here. It's Texans Radio. Chicksans 729 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: Radio continues in a moment, Chicksins Radio is back. All right, 730 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: let's get to this, Johnny, we have to clean up. 731 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: Who's better? Give me a quickie on better option than 732 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: number twelve at the Texans with edge guys on display 733 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: here Nolan Smith from Georgia, Lucas van Ness from Iowa, 734 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: and Lucas spells Lucas with a K, which is different. 735 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: So let's see how that affects. Thinks it won't at all, 736 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: But you tell me about their playing ability. Give me 737 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: the former hockey playing Lucas Vans from out of Iowa 738 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy five pounds in a really impressive athlete. 739 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: St long, strong dude. I mean that dude is powerful, 740 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: can slide inside if you need him too. At times 741 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: you don't want to let him live in there. But 742 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 1: he's an edge player. He's gonna set the edge hard. 743 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: He can play from stand up, he can put his 744 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: hand down. Nolan Smith is a He's a to me. 745 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: He's a truth three four outside linebacker. I think he 746 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: sets the edge very well, even though he's a little 747 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: lighter than a lot of four three defensive ends of 748 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: the league. I don't think you can go wrong with 749 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: Nolan Smith. I think you can do better with Lucas Vans, 750 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: Jilly Carter, Johnny pro Day did not go well, to 751 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: say the least, and with everything to happen around the 752 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: combine and then this, it kind of reminds me in 753 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: a different way because Orlando Brown didn't have the off 754 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: field stuff, but he had a very bad combin want 755 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: fourteen raps in the slowest time among all the offensive lineman, 756 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: and his stock plummeted. And that's literal right. He went 757 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: to the third round and he was picked by the Ravens, 758 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: but he turned into a four time pro bowler. So 759 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: is everybody gonna miss the boat here on Carter? Is 760 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 1: it a similar drop we're looking at, Maybe not as much. 761 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: There are other cops as well, for players who have 762 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 1: had rough off seasons or pre draft seasons. You tell 763 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: me how this affects things with Carter moving forward. Well, 764 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 1: it's one thing to have these issues off the field, 765 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: and then you compound it with showing up to your 766 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: pro day after not working out at the combine eight 767 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: pounds overweight. I mean, he's in the three ten to 768 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: three fifteen range, and he showed up today at three 769 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: twenty three. Then he had a hard time getting through 770 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: the workout. Now, who knows what's going on in his 771 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 1: head right now? With everything that's swirling, Who knows? Now 772 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: it seemingly is of his doing. He apparently was racing 773 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: when he shouldn't have been. You know all that whoever 774 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: is going to end up taking him has got a 775 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: really tremendous football player on their hands and potentially a 776 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: very fragile adult human being on their hands young as well. 777 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: So that's what they're gonna have to figure out the 778 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,439 Speaker 1: support system that they're gonna have to put around him. 779 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: How long is it gonna be? And I'm not talking 780 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: about babysitting or anything like that, but I am saying, 781 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,240 Speaker 1: if there are things going on with him, they're gonna 782 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: have to put a support system around him. Because if 783 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: you put a support system around brilliant, intelligent individuals or 784 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 1: wildly talented individuals, man, the ceiling is the ceiling is 785 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 1: the roof. As Michael Jordan once said, you can do anything. 786 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: But if you have a talented individual and there are 787 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: demons or there are some things going on that nobody 788 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: really can speak to or really kind of work out, 789 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: then you just have a you know, glorified former college 790 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: player that's not going to reach a ceiling. So there's 791 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to be some serious work done, not only 792 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 1: by the teams, to figure out what's going on with 793 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, whether they can get to Jalen Carter, whether 794 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: they can get to him, whether what's happening with him 795 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 1: is something that they can help him be a better individual. 796 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: So that's a lot. There's a lot going on with 797 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: the situation. But not good to show up eight to 798 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,800 Speaker 1: ten pounds overweight, to struggle through the workout what's he 799 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: been doing. Has he been thinking he was the number 800 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: one or number two overall pick and just thought he 801 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: could kind of coast by he didn't do any testing. 802 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. There's just a lot of signs that 803 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: are not pointing in the right direction. That said, we've 804 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 1: seen it before with some guys that have had signs 805 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 1: pointing in the wrong direction and then they got it right. 806 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,399 Speaker 1: They got it back going in the right direction. Whatever, 807 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: They got a bunch of help around them, and then 808 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: they got it right on the field. So that's my 809 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: hope for Jalen Carter. I'm just curious if he ends 810 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: up taking a tumble, would the Texans take a look 811 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: at him at number twelve? They would have to feel twelve. 812 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: I was thinking later, possibly, but you never know where 813 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: this all ends up. I think it's so hard to 814 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: evaluate these players psychologically. It's one thing whether he's a 815 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 1: good guy or players at their heart or a good guy. 816 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,439 Speaker 1: The bottom line is are they going to be good 817 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: professionals and want to improve put the work in to 818 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: be better while being yeah, good enough guy. They don't 819 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: have to be Saints necessarily, but they have to be 820 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: good enough people as professionals to function in this environment, 821 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: which is very different from anything else they faced. All right, 822 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: that's going to do it for the show tonight, Johnny. 823 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: Excellent stuff. As always, tomorrow we have the general I'm 824 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: will continue to talk about free agency because that is 825 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: the hot topic and TAA tournament reaction. I might have 826 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: a few reactions to what happens in tonight's conclusion of 827 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: the first four. Good luck TSU and what goes down 828 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: tomorrow with the Texas team's playing. Have a great night. 829 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: Thank you very much Jays for producing. Go Texans. This 830 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: is Texans Radio on Sports Radio six ten.