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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 1: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 3: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 3: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 2: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 4: That big breaker fund out there are a couple of

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Speaker 4: absolutely self involved bullshit artists.

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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I've been waiting for Tuesday, January twenty sixth, twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty one at ten am Eastern so I can see

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Speaker 5: my man Ken Flow after UFC two fifty seven. But

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Speaker 5: when it's like thirty four hours door to door, this

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Speaker 5: is kind of the best we can do. You know,

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Speaker 5: We're gonna have Ken Flow and Cody be burning it

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Speaker 5: after the pay per view to get this in the can.

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Speaker 6: So sorry for the delay, but it's good to see

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Speaker 6: a kid. Where are you. What's going on? New room

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Speaker 6: or what?

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Speaker 7: Same room? Different location? All right, yeah, man, listen, it's

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Speaker 7: good to see you, dude. What what a weekend?

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Speaker 1: And I'm just surprised that you're half alive here after

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Speaker 1: that long flight.

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Speaker 7: Man, I've done that flight. It's it's no fun going

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Speaker 7: to Abu Dhabi. That flight's brutal. If you're even if

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Speaker 7: you're in business class.

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Speaker 6: Well, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 5: Right, So it's fifteen fifty five on the way home

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Speaker 5: from Abu Dhabi to Vegas, right, and it's a created

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Speaker 5: flight in this COVID nineteen climate. And then got your

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Speaker 5: four hour layover Vegas Airport. You bang it to Atlanta,

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Speaker 5: some fried chicken, another layover there you experience a little

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Speaker 5: Southern hospitality, and another metal tube to West Palm Beach.

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Speaker 5: Got a couple kids home with colds today. So we

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Speaker 5: rush in the sitter to get the podcast here for you,

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Speaker 5: because I mean, we have priorities, and this is this

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Speaker 5: is episode two eighty five, and it's a goddamn priorities.

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Speaker 7: And we should.

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Speaker 1: Probably talk about the backdrop that you know, you're also

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Speaker 1: on Abu Dhabi time right now or somewhere in between,

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Speaker 1: and I'll fucked up.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's like I've woke up and I just wanted

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Speaker 5: to like eat, like dinner, and it was like seven

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Speaker 6: You probably tell a little swollen today. So that's what

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Speaker 6: I did.

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Speaker 7: I did it.

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Speaker 5: And so there's so much to get to. I feel

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Speaker 5: like we're already chasing the clock. But uh, what a trip,

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Speaker 5: what a week. I'm quite certain I'm gonna forget some stuff.

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Speaker 5: I do have a few notes written down. I got

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Speaker 5: things like calf kicks on my sheet that I'll make

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Speaker 5: sure that we get to. So let us start with

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Speaker 5: the uncrowned UFC Lightweight Champion, Dustin Poorier nineteen UFC wins,

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Speaker 5: and don't tell me the interim lightweight title victory over

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Speaker 5: Max Holloway is the biggest win of his career, Ken Flow.

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Speaker 6: Don't even do it to me.

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Speaker 5: You know, nobody had knocked out Connor McGregor like this,

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Speaker 5: And what a huge win in a career full of

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Speaker 5: them for a good dude, Dustin Pourier.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think that Dustin most likely will only

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Speaker 1: have a couple more fights, not because he can't do it,

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Speaker 1: but because I think he kind of envisioned this life

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Speaker 1: for himself where he started mixed martial arts very early. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he was fighting when he was a teenager, actually fighting

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Speaker 1: when he was a teenager, and I think he wanted

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Speaker 1: to make a certain amount of money and make a

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Speaker 1: name for himself and create this legacy for himself where

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Speaker 1: he could then leave a little bit earlier than your

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Speaker 7: That's the way to do it.

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Speaker 1: And this fight summarizes who Dustin Pourier is as a

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Speaker 7: That's who Dustin Pourier is.

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Speaker 6: So it is a game of inches in a lot

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Speaker 5: You know, one of those Connor McGregor's shoulders to the

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Speaker 5: nose could have absolutely shattered Dustin's nose and thereby changed

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Speaker 5: the complexion of the fight.

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Speaker 6: And there was some good in here for Connor McGregor.

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Speaker 5: But let us start for with what I believe was

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Speaker 5: the biggest part and factor of this fight, South Paw

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Speaker 5: versus South Paul. The calfkicks inside and outside from Dustin Pourier.

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Speaker 5: Mike Brown thought this would be a huge factor in

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Speaker 5: the fight. There's another side to this, Phil Sutcliffe, John Cavanaugh,

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Speaker 5: the McGregor team not preparing their athlete at all for

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Speaker 5: this type of scenario seemingly and I'm not even sure

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Speaker 5: how you do that can flow, But let us at

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Speaker 5: least start with American top team.

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Speaker 6: And you know Dan Lambert, right, you get what you

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 5: He Paisey's coached a lot of money. They do a

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Speaker 5: damn good job. They watch a lot of film. Mike

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Speaker 5: Brown felt like the calfkick was going to be a

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Speaker 6: And what do you have for us on that, my brother?

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Speaker 7: There is so much to.

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Speaker 1: Unpack, John, But I would say this, you know, and

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Speaker 1: Connor alluded to this.

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Speaker 7: You look at six years.

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Speaker 1: Six years have passed, okay since both of those guys

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Speaker 1: fought each other, And you look at how many times

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Speaker 1: Justin Poier has Poitier has stayed active compared to how

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Speaker 1: many times Connor Gregor has stayed active, and that activity matters,

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Speaker 1: and it matters, especially when you talk about the level

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Speaker 1: of fighter that they've both competed with over the years,

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Speaker 1: Dustin Porie is, you can look at the wins and

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Speaker 1: the losses erased all of that shit.

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Speaker 7: It's all experience and it's.

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Speaker 1: All knowledge, and Dustin Poia has made the best out

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Speaker 7: That into that fight against Connor McGregor.

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Speaker 1: And Connor just simply hasn't faced a good calf kick

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Speaker 7: You know, you go back to, you know, some of.

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Speaker 1: The classic boxing fights where you know, Meldrick Taylor was

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Speaker 1: Huleo Sister Shovis was able to knock him out. When

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Speaker 1: just even the odd significantly, especially when you're a power

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Speaker 7: Another very good boxer.

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Speaker 1: So you know, the calfkick really was crucial to the

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Speaker 1: success of this fight. It was a brilliant adjustment. It

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Speaker 1: was a brilliant part of the game plan. And once

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Speaker 1: he landed those shots on on Connor, he basically just

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Speaker 1: I don't think Connor planned for that.

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Speaker 7: I think that his team overlooked that aspect of the fight.

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Speaker 1: And if I can go in a little bit further, John,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you have a wide stance, you're able

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Speaker 1: allows you to push off the floor to create power.

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Speaker 1: Like when they say sit down on your punches, they're

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Speaker 7: All of your weight is on your feet, especially that

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Speaker 1: That's what does and Poia really took advantage of and

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Speaker 5: So how do you handicap a rematch and how do

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Speaker 5: you quantify or think about what Connor and his camp

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Speaker 5: would do to prepare right, Like I had Paul Felder

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Speaker 5: give me one of these things at like thirty percent

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Speaker 5: so I could feel it. And one part of me

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Speaker 5: journalistically would ask, how can you prepare for a mixed

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Speaker 5: one without having an elongated conversation about calfkicks and how.

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Speaker 6: To deal with them.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I think that it's I wouldn't I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Want to say it's a simple adjustment, but it's an

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Speaker 7: And you know, the cafkick has.

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Speaker 1: Been a problem for a lot of fighters, a lot

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Speaker 7: He's going to have to adjust his stance, he's going

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Speaker 7: to have to look at it differently.

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Speaker 1: The way that you approach it and the way that

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Speaker 7: I love to break it down at.

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Speaker 1: because if you block it now, it actually can work

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Speaker 1: If he lifts his leg up, you're on one legging

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Speaker 7: So it's something that can definitely be rectified.

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Speaker 1: I do think a fighter or the quality of Connor

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Speaker 1: when I'm explaining these things, people think like, oh, you're

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Speaker 1: making an excuse for Connor or wife he lost. That

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Speaker 1: has nothing to do with it. Yeah, No, he made

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Speaker 1: the wrong approach. Dustin fought the better fight. Dustin won

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Speaker 1: that damn fight. It's as simple as that.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, this is a live radio show, right, We're

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Speaker 5: eight minutes in. We have not even begun to give

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Speaker 5: Dustin Pourrier a lot of love. But the conversation just

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Speaker 5: went here. Does genetics have anything to do with it?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you and Paul Felder got these fucking meaty caps, right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know how else to put it right,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm just saying, like, it does stand

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Speaker 5: to reason that people are are better equipped to take

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Speaker 5: more of these in a fight. I mean, you can

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Speaker 5: hear people can repeatedly say all it takes is one

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Speaker 5: and you see a lot of people doing unorthodox tactics

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Speaker 5: on Instagram to try to strengthen their shins and other

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Speaker 5: parts of their body. But Kenny, this is a real,

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Speaker 5: real factor, and I don't know would genetics play a

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Speaker 5: role at all in terms of one's ability to take

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Speaker 1: I think it's possible. It's certainly possible. I will say this.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's never a good thing as a human

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Speaker 1: a certain amount of damage.

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Speaker 7: The best way to address it is n't get those shots.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, like when we talk about you know, Conan

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Speaker 5: Silvera in terms of preparing an athlete to face Cup

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Speaker 5: So I don't usually watch the postfight press conference. I

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Speaker 1: However, if you're Dustin Poorier, you want to make as

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Speaker 6: So we'll see how they choose to proceed.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you on that, John, I would say this.

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Speaker 7: So I think Dustin has.

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Speaker 6: Right, The gas tank didn't necessarily become a factor in

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Speaker 5: But he's got a Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt that

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Speaker 1: Versatility is perhaps the biggest strength of any fighter, John,

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Speaker 7: Or fates his way into someone like Dustin Pourier.

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Speaker 6: Good stuff can flow.

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Speaker 5: Congrats to Parker's dad, Dustin Poier, to Joe Lee, to

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Speaker 5: And I will say about Connor McGregor, just so gracious

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, and listen, I think he put

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Speaker 7: I just think that this was a dust employee that

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Speaker 7: That is a huge advantage all those training partners.

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Speaker 1: I'm you know, as good as custom sorry, as good

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Speaker 5: Right, no doubt about it, full fucking stop. You like

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Speaker 5: Iron Michael Chandler can flow with a most memorable UFC debut,

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Speaker 5: before a fight. His corner was thinking maybe too loose,

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Speaker 5: not too loose. Dan Hooker froze a little bit, but allhill.

440
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Speaker 5: Michael Chandler here on a Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 6: What do you got?

442
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Speaker 7: Yeah, listen.

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Speaker 1: I think that for Chandler, I was so happy to

444
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Speaker 1: see a patient Michael Chandler. He was waiting for the

445
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,639
Speaker 1: right time to get in. He wasn't forcing the issue,

446
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 1: It wasn't forcing the knockout.

447
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 7: It just came. And that's what I was concerned with.

448
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 7: In Chandler.

449
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Speaker 1: I said, I's so aggressive, and sometimes I from his

450
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 1: camp overully aggressive and because they want to do a

451
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 1: certain thing, they exposed themselves. That was not the case here.

452
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Speaker 1: And conversely, you look at Dan Hooker. To me, you know,

453
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Speaker 1: he got the idea that he needed to move around.

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Speaker 7: Cool.

455
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Speaker 1: Great, But I didn't see anything after that. You know,

456
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Speaker 1: it was almost like he was going to stop, throw

457
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Speaker 1: a shot and see what happens.

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Speaker 7: There was no.

459
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Speaker 1: There was no like understanding of the fact that he

460
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Speaker 1: is the longer guy, that he's the rengeer guy, and

461
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Speaker 1: he's gonna have to use those longer, rangier weapons against Chandler.

462
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Speaker 7: He'd kind of just stopped throw and start moving again.

463
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Speaker 1: And I think I think, like a Chandler, a guy

464
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Speaker 1: who has that kind of experience, he was going.

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Speaker 7: To time you.

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Speaker 1: Eventually, brilliant stuff from Chandler. It was good to see

467
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Speaker 1: him go in. They're pretty patient and lend it that

468
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Speaker 1: big shot man. That's how he was going to win,

469
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Speaker 1: and it seemed like Hooker wasn't quite prepared for that.

470
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Speaker 6: All right.

471
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Speaker 5: Not making excuses for Dan Hooker and I will get

472
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Speaker 5: back to Michael Chandler. I'm not sure how much time

473
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Speaker 5: he had to prepare. I know the circumstances and a

474
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 5: lot of respects were not ideal. Eugene Bharman, head coach

475
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 5: City Kickboxing, your two time coach of the Year here

476
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 5: on the Enniconfloring podcast, was not there in his corner.

477
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 6: But Ken Flow put yourself in Dan Hooker's shoes.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you have to fight January twenty third in Abu Dhabi,

479
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 5: and then you can't see your daughter until February twenty first,

480
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 5: at the earliest because of quarantine restrictions in your native country.

481
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 5: So there's enough pressure on you guys to begin with

482
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Speaker 5: to win the fight. But the whole thought of losing

483
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 5: a fight Heaven forbid spectacularly by first round knockout and

484
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Speaker 5: then not being able to go home for an entire month,

485
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 5: it fucks with your head, man, and I'm truly not

486
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Speaker 5: trying to take anything away from Michael Chandler, but best

487
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Speaker 5: of luck dealing with that circumstance. And if you think,

488
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Speaker 5: with all the time in quarantine and all the time

489
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Speaker 5: on Fight Island, that you don't have time to think

490
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 5: about that, then then you're ignorant. Sorry, but but there

491
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 5: is a preparation of the mind for a certain fight,

492
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Speaker 5: and if your mind isn't right and it's getting kind

493
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Speaker 5: of pulled in a lot of different directions, then you're

494
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Speaker 5: gonna be in big trouble.

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Speaker 7: And you're not gonna be ready on fight night. Period.

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Speaker 5: For Dan Hooker, I think he'll be back. You know,

497
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't read too much into him taking the gloves off.

498
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 5: I did go up to him at breakfast and he

499
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Speaker 5: kind of shucked that off a little bit.

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Speaker 6: So I think he will be back.

501
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Speaker 5: But you know, I think there is some argument that

502
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Speaker 5: he was softened up a little bit by Dustin Poier

503
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Speaker 5: and Paul Felder over those grueling fifty minutes all told

504
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 5: earlier in twenty twenty. But for Michael Chandler, I mean,

505
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 5: you can't draw it up any better. I mean, the

506
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Speaker 5: way he handled free agency, the way he handled himself

507
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Speaker 5: throughout this fight week throughout the UFC two to fifty

508
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 5: four fight week back in October. I mean, the guy's

509
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 5: just dripping with class. Such a good dude.

510
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Speaker 6: You know, I'm not a pro wrestling guy.

511
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 5: Like for me, I'm not necessarily one for WWE style

512
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 5: promos or things that are memorized.

513
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Speaker 6: But he absolutely nailed it, right.

514
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 5: I mean, he really didn't nail it, and I thought

515
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 5: capitalized on.

516
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 6: That moment as best he could.

517
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 5: But he's so articulate and so good in those settings

518
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 5: that I don't even know that he needs to, you know,

519
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 5: come up with the whole bit. But just a humongous

520
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 5: weekend for Michael Chandler, and you know, to me, it's

521
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Speaker 5: title eliminator for him and then probably a title shot.

522
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Speaker 7: Dude.

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Speaker 1: Let me, let's talk about pressure, right, I Mean, there

524
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Speaker 1: was a lot of pressure on Chandler heading into this

525
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: fight out his first fight in the UFC, being a

526
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Speaker 1: former champion in the other division, you know, and all

527
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: eyes were on him, and man, did he step up

528
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: at the right time.

529
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Speaker 7: He showed up and really shun all right.

530
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Speaker 5: So in terms of Michael Chandler's future, maybe it'll be

531
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 5: justin Gaetchee. I know, he wants that twenty nine and

532
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 5: Chandler and that could be fight in the worst way,

533
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 5: but we'll see how it plays out for him.

534
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Speaker 6: But it's nice to have him in the mix.

535
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Speaker 5: And professional athlete, man, I mean, those are the words

536
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 5: that come to mind for me. Guy's a tremendous, tremendous

537
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 5: athlete and on any given Saturday night, you gotta be

538
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 5: real careful taking anything that's coming his way. And Henry

539
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 5: Hoof deserves a lot of credit. As I said on

540
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Speaker 5: the broadcast, Domina Cruz felt like this was stylistically as

541
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Speaker 5: hard a matchup as Chandler could have in the top ten,

542
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 5: but he felt like if there was any striking coach

543
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 5: that could get him ready for it, it was Henry huffed.

544
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 5: All right, So I told you about the postfight press conference. Honestly,

545
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 5: go to the UFC's YouTube channel and watch it. But

546
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 5: we have some Michael Chandlers sound for you, because there

547
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 5: seems to be the circumstance in mixed martial arts when

548
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 5: when a fighter finishes another fighter, they run to be

549
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 5: the ultimate sportsman, and sometimes I find it to be

550
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Speaker 5: very much off putting. So it was nice to hear

551
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 5: Michael Chandler Cody at the postfight press conference articulate how

552
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Speaker 5: he felt about when you lose a fight, specifically when

553
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Speaker 5: you get finished and how the opponent reacts.

554
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Speaker 8: I'm not a big talk to your opponent after you win.

555
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Speaker 8: I'm really not. I actually think it's one of the

556
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 8: most disrespectful things in the sport. I think it's I

557
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 8: think it's absolutely the worst. When you choke a guy

558
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 8: out or you knock him out. As soon as he comes

559
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 8: to you start hugging him and kissing him, and it's

560
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 8: just no like, let the man take his loss, let

561
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 8: him breathe, let him, let him, let him do his

562
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 8: thing inside of his head. You know, I'm not there

563
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 8: to be the holier than thou, great you know, god

564
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 8: of sportsmanship, to pick him up when he's dust him off.

565
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 8: No like, let him let him enjoy, not enjoy, but

566
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 8: let him, let him deal with what he just went through.

567
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 8: Because trust me, I've been through it too, and I

568
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 8: don't want anybody to look at me, touch touch me,

569
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 8: talk to me for about a week so.

570
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Speaker 5: And then in the meaning so this whole perceived sportsmanship

571
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,479
Speaker 5: can flow like Davison Figuretto is a great sportsman, like

572
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 5: I know that he has a tremendous heart, and when

573
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 5: he goes over and picks up Alex Perez in some

574
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 5: parties probably acknowledging him because it was a quick fight

575
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 5: and Perez maybe deserved the longer whatever, right, but bro, like,

576
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 5: put me the fuck down.

577
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Speaker 6: Okay. I've been waiting to fight for the UFC title

578
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Speaker 6: my whole life.

579
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 5: I don't want to get choked out and then, you know,

580
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 5: have my hand raised or be vaulted in the air.

581
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 6: I just I don't know.

582
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 5: I wanted to bring that audio your way because I

583
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 5: agree with Michael Chandler. I'm not a fighter, but I

584
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 5: kind of feel like if BJ had like picked you

585
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 5: up in the air and tried to like annoint you,

586
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 5: you would have fucking lost your mind.

587
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 6: Or did he No, he did, he actually did.

588
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 7: I was like, dude, the same thing. I was like, yeah,

589
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 7: get away from me. Yeah, so and I was like out.

590
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: Like I actually got he he put me out, Like I.

591
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 7: Was not all there when he picked me up, So

592
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 7: my legs weren't there, you know.

593
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: I was like prepared to go to sleep, but I

594
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: was like, you know, so anyways, so I wasn't all

595
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: the way.

596
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Speaker 7: There, but I agree. I did that once.

597
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: It was after Joe Stevenson, but I had known Joe Stevenson.

598
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 7: We had we had hung out.

599
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: Before, we had talked times, you know, so I felt

600
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: like almost like being a friendly guy, like.

601
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 7: Hey man, I'm like, I'm sorry the way a way down.

602
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: But other than that, absolutely give a fighter his space.

603
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 7: Man, that's not cool. It's also it's also kind of like.

604
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: You're big brothering him, like, hey, nice job, Champ, Like

605
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: go get that nice job, Tiger.

606
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Speaker 7: You're kind of like putting herself above him in a way.

607
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 7: I don't know, that's the way I see it. So

608
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 7: it's like, yeah, man, give the dude space.

609
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 6: And I'm not trying to call people out.

610
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 5: But I even think Alessio di Kirico, you know, was

611
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 5: trying to like get Joaquin Buckley's attention even while the

612
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 5: man still concussed. I mean, so, I was just glad

613
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 5: to see a high profile fighter use that platform to

614
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 5: try try to sort of get that message out there.

615
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 5: But a monumentally enormous win for Michael Chandler, and I

616
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 5: am very happy for that man. Jojo Caller with over

617
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 5: Jessica I pretty clean here. Historically great statistical output from

618
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 5: Jojo Calderwood and Jessica. I was certainly wearing it on

619
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 5: the plane home, and uh, this is pretty special when

620
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 5: you get to know these people like John Wood and

621
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 5: joe Anne Calderwood and you sort of see what they're

622
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 5: the life that they're creating in Vegas. Jojo is this

623
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 5: unbelievable stepmother who has a great relationship with Maverick Wood

624
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 5: and his mom and it's just all gravy man, And

625
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm hoping Jojo gets a title shot.

626
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 5: I know it's getting crowded at twenty five with Andrage

627
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 5: and Lauren Murphy and everybody else, but all of a sudden,

628
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 5: there are fresh names for Valentina and I like it.

629
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think Jojo has always shown a

630
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: certain amount of potential in my eyes, that she could

631
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: be really good, And I felt like this fight was

632
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: one of those fights where she kind of put it

633
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: all together and despite being in some tough moments, there

634
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: was able to keep it together and execute a solid

635
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: game plan against a tough fighter. And I and just

636
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: seems like a very authentic and nice person. She's been

637
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: working hard for a very long time now, coming up

638
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: with the Ultimate Fighter She's had her ups and downs,

639
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: and the fact that she's stayed in there and has

640
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: continued to improve is awesome to see.

641
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 5: You said on our show last week, she just has

642
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 5: to let the skills go, and she let it go.

643
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 5: I mean, she was offensive and output was a big

644
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 5: reason why she won that fight. So we'll see how

645
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 5: they proceed with the women at one hundred and twenty

646
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 5: five pounds. So I can't even imagine all the things

647
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 5: that Ray Longo has to say about UFC two fifty seven.

648
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 5: And the clock is tickn for al Jamaine Sterling as well.

649
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 5: So let's see if Ray got a haircut and bring

650
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 5: on Raymond.

651
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 6: Peter Longo.

652
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 4: Is now time Long Minute, They Long Minute.

653
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 6: John and Kenny Florian.

654
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 5: Podcast starring Ray long Ago should have taken him off

655
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 5: the top of the show today, but I digress.

656
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Speaker 6: What is going on?

657
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 7: Man?

658
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 4: My peep? How we feel it to?

659
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 6: Oh, it's great, feel great.

660
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 5: Got the Ray Longo text message during the pay per view,

661
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 5: which we always appreciate. It's usually about judging hair looks good.

662
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 5: We have passed the awkward length. It looks better with

663
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 5: a hat on on the podcast than.

664
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 4: They I cannot take the hat off so like when you're.

665
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 6: When you're washing your hair.

666
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 5: I mean, i'd imagine we're going shampoo and conditioner at

667
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 5: this point. It's got to be it's take you a

668
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 5: little longer to wash your hair these days than it

669
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 5: used to.

670
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 4: I would think, I'm gonna let you in on a

671
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 4: little secret. I don't wash my hair. That my hair

672
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 4: hasn't been washed in a year.

673
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 6: How about that wash your scalp though? No?

674
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 4: No, Well, hey, I guess this is the secret, John.

675
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 6: It's a secret to why it looks so good. Uh.

676
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 5: And I guess if you're not trying to pick up

677
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 5: a woman, then it's okay to not wash your hair

678
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 5: for a year.

679
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 4: I have the girls in the gym smell my head.

680
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 4: If it ever smelled bad, I would wash it right away,

681
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 4: but some reason it doesn't.

682
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 6: Well, journey air is the reason you have COVID.

683
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 8: Because we have four people here, three of us have hair,

684
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 8: one of us doesn't.

685
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 6: Not to mention that I've been all over the godnamn world.

686
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 5: I've taken one hundred and two COVID tests at this

687
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 5: point in time, and we've only failed one of them

688
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 5: and it.

689
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 6: Was a false positive.

690
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 5: All right, let's get into this stuff Dustin Poorer by

691
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 5: Tko over Codor McGregor at two thirty two of round two.

692
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 5: Holy fucking shit spins the machia Zts world on its axis. Ray,

693
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 5: I mean, you kind of felt like Pourier was alive underdog.

694
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 5: So what were your thoughts on the fight relative to

695
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 5: your expectations on it?

696
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 4: Ah, Man, Look, but I think kind of kind of

697
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: summed it up. I'm going to go with that. The

698
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 4: inactivity was definitely a problem. Obviously, you have to address

699
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: the calf kick the first time you get there. I

700
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 4: was surprised there was no switching of stances or a

701
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 4: little more movement, maybe making that leg lighter or trying

702
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 4: to get it out of the way. But uh, you know,

703
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: it's one of those things, I guess, and I got

704
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 4: to tell you I'm not I've never really been kicked

705
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 4: in the calf. I've been kicked in the leg a

706
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 4: million times, and you know, you do get used to it.

707
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 4: But there were times where you can't even get up

708
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 4: out of a seat from that. But the calf looks

709
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 4: like it's just that one shot. If it hits right,

710
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 4: there's no coming back. It's it's the livery shot of

711
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 4: the leg at this point, you know what I mean,

712
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 4: it's it's crazy. So I think that definitely obviously had

713
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 4: a big impact. And if you know, if power comes

714
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 4: from the floor and you don't have the floor because

715
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 4: of your balance, it's gonna take a lot off your punch, man,

716
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 4: it's gonna take a lot of sting off your punch.

717
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 4: And I think that's what we saw. I thought, Uh,

718
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 4: you know, uh, it's a weird thing, John, because this

719
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 4: kind of McGregor I really like. Now. I like the

720
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 4: guy that's punting with his kids, you know, and you

721
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 4: you made a post. You know. He shows up at

722
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 4: the press conference. He takes it like a man. He

723
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 4: goes out, he addresses people. Nobody wants to do that

724
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 4: after a loss, especially a guy who's as high profile

725
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 4: as him. So yeah, you know, I like those guys

726
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: that are humble in defeat. I don't know, it looks

727
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 4: like he's in a good spot. I hope he stays there.

728
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 4: I don't I don't like the guy throwing his shit

729
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 4: at the bus and hitting old man. That shit you

730
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 4: could take and throw in the fucking garbage, you know,

731
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 4: But this guy, he looks like sometimes you have kids,

732
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 4: that changes you, and you know, because you're a father,

733
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 4: it's you know, even me, sometimes I have to watch

734
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 4: what I say sometimes, you know what, I don't want

735
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 4: to be portrayed like that. It's not a good example

736
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 4: for my kids. So hopefully there's a great thing for him.

737
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 4: But uh, will it affect his fighting as of right now?

738
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I have to see one more fight, but

739
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 4: I kind of like this guy. But I don't know

740
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 4: how he trained for the fight. But definitely, you know,

741
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: the cafkick thing has to be addressed, and I'm sure

742
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 4: those guys will go back to the drawing board and

743
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 4: come up with something.

744
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 5: Ken though he said it's like the liver shot to

745
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 5: the leg, but you don't need to be nearly as

746
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 5: precise with it. And I'm not trying to say that

747
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 5: Poorier wasn't precise with it, right, But it's a lot

748
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 5: easier to hit that muscle a couple times or even

749
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 5: one time flush that it is to hit a perfect

750
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 5: liver shot underneath somebody's elbow, right. I mean, so I

751
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 5: don't know, like this is the elephant in the room.

752
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 5: I could do a whole show on this. I feel

753
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 5: like you have to figure out a way if you're

754
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 5: a fighter.

755
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 6: It almost costs Poorier against Jim Miller.

756
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, I mean I don't know how accurate you

757
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: have to be. I mean, you got between the knee

758
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 4: and your ankle, but you got to be down towards

759
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 4: the ankle. I think if you're a fight and knee,

760
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to have the same effect.

761
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: But and the livy shot, you know, the liver runs

762
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 4: all the way over to the solo place. So anything

763
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 4: in that vicinity sometimes, you know, is considered a livy shot,

764
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: even though it's not behind the elbow.

765
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 7: You know, your legs are what's gonna deliver you to

766
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 7: the target. And if you could chop those.

767
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: Damn things off, you're gonna be in a pretty good spot.

768
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what Dustin was doing. It was taking

769
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: away Connor's ability to move. And as soon as that

770
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: is gone and you can no longer create force off

771
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: the floor, you're in big trouble. Connor McGregor isn't the

772
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: same guy. He's not landing the same kind of shots.

773
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: And then Dustin Poye was able to basically chop the

774
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: legs off and then cut the heat off the stein.

775
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 5: So ray In terms of the next meeting, Like, how

776
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 5: do you foresee a third meeting between these two going?

777
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 5: And do you expect that the calfkick would be would

778
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 5: be a factor.

779
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 4: I think it's always going to be a factor. I

780
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: think they will address it. They'll get his movement going.

781
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 4: I mean, you got to you gotta get that leg

782
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 4: out of the way. Been turning into it. I'm not

783
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 4: sure is the best defense, but I'm gonna. I would

784
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 4: guess that kind of would attack his caff right off

785
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 4: the bat this time, you know what I mean. I

786
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 4: think it would something like that, you know what I mean.

787
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 4: I think that's the adjustment he makes. I think he

788
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 4: goes after his caff also because he's got decent leg kicks.

789
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 4: You know, you saw the Nate dis fight. I would

790
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 4: think that would be the first thing is that you

791
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: just changed the game plan up and you go a

792
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 4: little kick oriented in the first round, right, you know

793
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 4: the way that goes Sometimes then you both guys stop kicking,

794
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 4: you know so, but you have to get your leg

795
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 4: out of the way. I don't think it could be there,

796
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 4: and I don't know, I'm not sure checking because it

797
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 4: looked like he did turn into the kick. You know

798
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 4: a couple of times, but I don't know. Look the

799
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 4: guys with those long stances back in the day, I

800
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 4: mean when I was first coming up and even learning

801
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 4: tie boxing, that was almost like a joke. For the

802
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 4: karate guys getting in that side stance, you would just

803
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 4: hammer that right away. Then you get a guy like

804
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 4: one of the boy Thompson who's got that stance, but

805
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 4: he's moving all over the place. You really can't find it.

806
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 4: And then when you go to hit him, he saw

807
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 4: it kicks you in the stomach. So there are all

808
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 4: guys that are so talented they take that away. But

809
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 4: for the guys that don't have that ability, you know,

810
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 4: standing in that stance, you are given away the leg

811
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 4: and more importantly, you're giving away the caf at this

812
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 4: point even easier. You know, it might be harder to

813
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 4: get to the to the thigh, but now the caf.

814
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 4: This changes a lot of stuff. Canny, I don't know

815
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 4: if you agree with that, but this is crazy, and

816
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 4: I'm not that adept to it, you know what I mean.

817
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 4: I'd come up with a couple of things for all guys,

818
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 4: but we'll see what happens. But I don't know. This

819
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 4: is new to me, Ray Ray, I.

820
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more, dude, And listen, I think that sparring right,

821
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: you have the shin guards. If someone kicks you in

822
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: the quad, you can kind of get a feel for

823
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: what that's going to be like in a real fight.

824
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: The problem with the calf is your shin guard is protected.

825
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: I don't know many people who spar with padding on

826
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: their quad, right, So when you have padding on your shin,

827
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: they're kicking the shin, y'all out, That's fine.

828
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 7: My shin would take that. I'd be fine.

829
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: The reality is you're kicking the muscle on the side.

830
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: You're not kicking the bone of the shin. You're kicking

831
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: the side of the muscle. And I think once Connor

832
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: kind of turned it started figuring out and kind of

833
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: was turning his shin towards the target a little bit,

834
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: the damage had already been done.

835
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 7: So now it's just compounding that much more. He was

836
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 7: in trouble. I'm telling you. It just takes one damn

837
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 7: calf kit that's it.

838
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then the accuracy for Pourier with the hands too,

839
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 5: you know, change up the tempo, just you know, touching him,

840
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 5: not trying to put him out with the one shot beautiful,

841
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 5: and Ray Connor wants the rematch, which I love, right.

842
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 5: I mean, there are more favorable matchups for him in

843
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 5: the top ten, but he wants to right this perceived wrong,

844
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 5: right like he wants this fight, probably the toughest fight

845
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 5: for him, and I don't know, Connor usually gets what

846
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 5: he wants. I think we're going to see it again

847
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 5: for the undisputed title.

848
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, man, when it comes to fight and everything

849
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 4: that encapsulates a fighter and fighting, Conna is good, you

850
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like again, he's humbling defeat. Like

851
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 4: you said in your thing, he shows up at the

852
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: press conference, he takes it like a man, you know,

853
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 4: excluding everything outside that's different, But as a fighter, I

854
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 4: think he's always been. He's done everything kind of right,

855
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 4: you know, win, all lose, you know what I mean.

856
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 4: So I think he gets that rematch, and I think

857
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 4: he does make the adjustment. But I think right now,

858
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 4: I you know, Dustin has absolutely no fear of the guy,

859
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 4: and I think at fifty five, if he's not cutting weight,

860
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 4: it looks like he took those punches better.

861
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 6: He got hit right, yeah, and it looked.

862
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 4: Like decent shots. So you know, it's Conna's job now

863
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: to be able to take a hit and come back

864
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 4: because whether it was Dustin's boxing that put him away

865
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 4: or was the lake kicks that added to the boxing

866
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 4: put him away, He's got to figure it out. But Dustin,

867
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 4: I don't believe that he's not going anywhere, won't punch anymore,

868
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 4: especially because now he's got the confidence and he's seeing

869
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 4: everything coming, you know what I mean. Look, he knows

870
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: that the guy pulls and hits with that left hand,

871
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 4: so that's the one problem, and I think he's already

872
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 4: figured that out.

873
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 5: I want to get your thoughts on Marina Hadriguez over

874
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 5: Amanda heboss essentially having to knock her out twice in

875
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 5: that fight. But before we do, some thoughts on Michael

876
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 5: Chandler and uh, just big picture right. I was born

877
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 5: in the United States of America, so patriotically.

878
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 6: Speaking, right, I mean us fucking A.

879
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 5: I mean, go look at the u United States of

880
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 5: America's success in the UFC over the years, and I

881
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 5: think it's okay to let the patriotism shine through on

882
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 5: a night where two Americans, you know, take out a

883
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 5: Kiwi and an irishman respectfully.

884
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 4: Wow, we will man.

885
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 5: I know, I just thought it was cool, right, Like, Hey,

886
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 5: everybody else is so patriotic, right, Yeah, nice to see

887
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 5: Michael Chandler flaunting the stars and stripes, is guess, I

888
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 5: guess that's I'm getting that.

889
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 4: Uh Listen, you can't get a nicer guy to Michael Chandler.

890
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 4: Now you have had time to interview him and meet him.

891
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 4: He's just a ball of positive energy. Man, that guy is.

892
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 4: You know, I've had the pleasure of meeting him. He's

893
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 4: come to the gym a couple of times. He just

894
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 4: exudes positivity and just what a great guy. They really

895
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 4: should embrace this guy and get back in his journey's

896
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 4: been so crazy that me, you gotta be happy for

897
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: this guy. I mean, I don't know. You watch his

898
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,479
Speaker 4: videos on Instagram. The guy is just perpetual motion. Those

899
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 4: workouts are insane that he does, and I do believe

900
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 4: he's doing him every fricking day. So you know, in

901
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 4: hip fight for him, because you saw him get kicked

902
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 4: in the calf and that was the worst that we've

903
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 4: ever seen. He had that drop off of the foot.

904
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 4: He couldn't even stand. But typical Michael Chandler was hopping

905
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 4: around on one leg. He didn't want to fight stop.

906
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 4: So this guy they could do something with him. Man,

907
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 4: I think he's he's just the right guy. I mean,

908
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 4: it looks like he's the right guy at the right place.

909
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 4: And you know the old saying you don't get a

910
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 4: second chance to make a first impression. That's right, crap

911
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 4: was his first impression phenomenal against a guy that we

912
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 4: never saw a hook and get put away like that.

913
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 4: You know, so, God bless.

914
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 5: Me that you on you on episode one of the

915
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 5: Anak and Florian podcasts, just fucking bringing it from April

916
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 5: of twenty fifteen.

917
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, fucking boss that you are.

918
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 5: Hey, so so I remember back in the day, you know,

919
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 5: Pat Barry has check Kongo literally unconscious. Stan Murgliata makes

920
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 5: contact with Pat Barry and somehow it ends up a

921
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 5: knockout loss for Pat Berry. This wasn't quite as agreedious

922
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 5: when it comes to the referee. But Marina Haddriguez defeats Amanda.

923
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 5: He boss, you know Herbdane gets a little bit too

924
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 5: close for comfort. It looked like he brushed the top

925
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 5: of her head. She retreats, and I think anytime you

926
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 5: position yourself and you're forward motion results in the professional

927
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 5: athlete being forced to back up Ken Flow right to

928
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 5: like get out of the referees way end of the

929
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 5: fucking fight.

930
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 6: Thankfully she was able to still get the finish.

931
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 5: But you're really messing with livelihoods can flow, you can

932
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 5: have bonuses go away here, right because of an anti

933
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 5: climactic finish. So Ken Flow, start us off on Marina

934
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 5: Hadriguez and then we'll let Raymond go from there.

935
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 7: My brother, I agree.

936
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: First of all, for Marina Rodriguez, I mean, what a

937
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: performance against Hebos, who was a huge favorite. We knew

938
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: that Rodriguez could strike, but man, did she take advantage

939
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: of that opportunity against.

940
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 7: Hebos who was on quite the role.

941
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: But you know, in regards to her Dean, listen, I

942
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 1: think you're right, was there a mistake made?

943
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 7: Yes? I do think he was trying to go in

944
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 7: for a closer. Law kind of lost his balanced.

945
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,959
Speaker 1: There, not excited and kind of backed off. Was like, wait,

946
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: I think Hebos is still kind of fighting.

947
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 7: Back, and oh man, you know that's a tough one

948
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 7: for me.

949
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: You'd have to make these decisions and a split you

950
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: know what. Second, I think if Herb Dean had going

951
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: had gone in there in between them, I would say

952
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 1: should have stopped the fight. And I never liked seeing

953
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: fighters take more damage than it's necessary.

954
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 7: But it was a mistake. I don't think it was

955
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 7: a huge mistake. That's a difficult one. That's a difficult one. Yeah.

956
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. The Pat Barry thing was way more egregious. You see,

957
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 4: like there was a stumbling and it was you know,

958
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 4: he was confused. Herb like again was further back. She

959
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 4: got dropped, and I think exactly what Kenny said, he

960
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 4: ran in there to take a closer look kind of over.

961
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: Randy didn't. You didn't want to touch anybody. And I'm

962
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 4: gonna go further. I'm gonna blame Rodriguez for that, because

963
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 4: you don't stop until that referee pulls you off. And look,

964
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 4: this is coming from John McCarthy man with the Holly

965
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 4: Home fight against the girl from Holland.

966
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 6: Uh what's her name, Germaine?

967
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 4: Jermaine. Yeah, I mean, like, no, the fight, even with

968
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 4: the bell, you don't stop until the Now you're at

969
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 4: the case. Everybody knows that. Now she backed out of

970
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 4: there like it was Look what a beautiful picture, perfect

971
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 4: right hand. That's the way to sit down on the

972
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 4: right hand.

973
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 7: Man.

974
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 4: I tell you that was absolutely pretty to watch. But

975
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 4: you don't walk away. And I had a guy do

976
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 4: that in a fight. He dropped the guy and he

977
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 4: backed out. I almost killed him right in it, right

978
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 4: in the ring. I really, this is no joke. I mean,

979
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 4: I could show you the tape of it. But you

980
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 4: don't stop. That's the thing. He tried to do the

981
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 4: right thing. He wanted to get a closer look. He

982
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 4: was further back. Like Kenny said, he overran it. She

983
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: interpreted that as the fight was over, because you know,

984
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 4: she just hit her with a beautiful right hand. I

985
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 4: get that, but you do not stop. You finish that

986
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 4: fight until that herb Dean tackles you off of her.

987
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 4: That's that's the way it should be, and then we

988
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 4: don't have any problems a question.

989
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think you hit on a lot of

990
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 5: good points. And I think you have to almost learn

991
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 5: that lesson though, right, because you see a referee coming

992
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 5: in and and the all blacks, you know, momentously trying

993
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 5: to get in the way. It's like your natural inclination,

994
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 5: I think is a human being. But yeah, I guess

995
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 5: you got to super necessary, right. It is like you

996
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 5: have to make sure you close the show.

997
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 4: That's a quote the show, you know, And Herb's done

998
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 4: that before. Yeah, and he says the fights over, you

999
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 4: don't walk away from the opponent, and I agree with

1000
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 4: him one hundred percent.

1001
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 6: And the other thing I had written down for Ray

1002
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 6: and Kenny.

1003
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 5: I don't know if you have anything on this, and

1004
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 5: this comes from the fans our Anakin Florin podcast listener. Sorry,

1005
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 5: I forget your handle, but so Connor McGregor threw a

1006
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 5: hookkick four seconds into the first meeting with Dustin Pourier. Right,

1007
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 5: he's not touching gloves at that point. He has his

1008
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 5: whole fifteen seconds planned, you know in the NFL. Ray,

1009
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 5: I know you don't watch, but a lot of these

1010
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 5: NFL coaches they have their first fifteen offensive plays scripted, right.

1011
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 6: So it was an awkward start by Herb.

1012
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 5: Dan at the beginning of this main event, and that

1013
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 5: maybe prevented Connor from handling the first ten seconds the

1014
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 5: way he would have liked to do it. Maybe for

1015
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 5: Dustin too, But seemed to be a lot of fan

1016
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 5: noise about that.

1017
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 6: Did you hear anything on that, Ray Or.

1018
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 4: No, man, I heard nothing about it.

1019
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 6: Well, there you go, hey, I'm bringing it to you.

1020
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 6: You know, hey, maybe she wanted me to bring it

1021
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 6: to Yeah, that's what I'm doing.

1022
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 4: You know, if I feel bit, I want to go

1023
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 4: back and watch it now. So I would I would

1024
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 4: have been more prepared.

1025
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm reading this fight clock is brought to you

1026
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 5: by Darren Till.

1027
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 6: You know, I don't know what I'm doing. So, I mean, I.

1028
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 5: Honestly like the sponsorship was was out of control this week.

1029
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 6: So I was.

1030
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 4: That a jet leg question by any chance?

1031
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 7: Okay?

1032
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 6: I see, Yeah, not my best show today, I understand that.

1033
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 5: So all right, before we let you go, Aljamaine Sterling,

1034
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 5: I don't know how many sleeps it is not very

1035
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 5: many sleeps before this championship fight against Kyoder Young.

1036
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 6: Uh.

1037
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 5: Visualization is underway at the Longo Wideman gym.

1038
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 4: He I love it.

1039
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 6: Spot up there with the champion, Sarah and and Widman.

1040
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 4: See what we did. They were together, We moved them

1041
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 4: over to make room for Al Joe. I love it, man.

1042
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 4: I make him stare at that every I'm as soon

1043
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 4: as I hang up the phone, I griped somebody and

1044
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 4: I'm going to the gym to meet him.

1045
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 6: Uh.

1046
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 4: He's looking really good. But I make him stare at

1047
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 4: that spot every fucking days. In that guy, Damn Jim,

1048
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 4: he wants his picture up there. He's gonna come and

1049
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 4: he's gonna have to fucking you know, go to war

1050
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 4: and fucking get it. But that's every day he's going

1051
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 4: to stare at that spot, and that's what he should

1052
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 4: be doing. That's what he should be focusing on between

1053
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 4: now and March sixth. But he's coming out of the

1054
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 4: gate really good, really loving what I'm seeing out of him.

1055
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 5: And your guy, Matt the steamer role of for VOLI

1056
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 5: got a feel for him. Circumstances took away three fights

1057
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 5: for him in twenty twenty, so he was ending a

1058
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 5: layoff that dated to October twelfth, twenty nineteen. He's supposed

1059
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 5: to fight Ottman Azeitar on the pay per view main car,

1060
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 5: which is a challenge in its own right, but then

1061
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 5: he gets this layered armand Sarukyan, who's just this five

1062
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 5: foot seven backyard shed and you know, she's a minus

1063
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 5: seven hundred favorite, and uh, you know, just not the

1064
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 5: challenge that that Rivola prepared for at all. Much respect

1065
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 5: to the toughness of Matt Rivola, but obviously Sarkian was

1066
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 5: just too much for your guy.

1067
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, definitely look for a wild swinger, not really

1068
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 4: a wild swim, but a power puncher who you know,

1069
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 4: throws punches from his ass. It had a totally different fight. Man,

1070
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 4: and his dad called me and said they offered him.

1071
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 4: This guy really didn't recognize the name, right, And then

1072
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 4: when I went to look at him, man, I remember

1073
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 4: I don't I didn't know either of their names. But

1074
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 4: that fight in Russia with my Islam, Yeah, what fricking

1075
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 4: back and forth were insane. When I saw that, I go, Man,

1076
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 4: he didn't prepare for this guy, like you know, I

1077
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 4: don't even know. You would have needed a lot of

1078
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 4: preparing because it was a wrestling based game obviously, and

1079
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 4: that guy is really fucking good. But on the other hand, man,

1080
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 4: for not training for the fight, look, I think he

1081
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 4: gave a good account of himself. He's not going anywhere.

1082
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 4: I think he sends a statement he's not an easy out.

1083
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 4: Doubt that wasn't it was. It wasn't a minus seven

1084
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Speaker 4: hundred performance for sure. I mean he had a good

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00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 4: first round. I think he tagged him at the end,

1086
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 4: and then look at those wrestling things break you down

1087
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 4: when you're not training for it. It's just it's hard

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00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 4: to keep up with that. So I think it's a

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00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 4: great growing fight for Matt. He'll go back to the

1090
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 4: drawing board and look, that's who he is. Man. He

1091
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 4: took that fight. He was over there, he took the trip.

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00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 4: I don't I don't really think he gave a shit

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00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 4: who they put in front of him. But this was

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00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 4: a really bad matchup for the way he trained for

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00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 4: the other guy. Because I was there, so you know whatever.

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00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 4: But he'll grow for Matt, and I hope the UFC

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00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 4: appreciates his uh, you know, his peroit, you know what

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00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 4: I mean, because he's coming. He's not a he wasn't

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00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 4: a dog anywhere in that fight. And I'm proud of him,

1100
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 4: and I think he made a great account of account

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Speaker 4: of himself given the circumstances.

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Speaker 6: And if you're Ray Longo and it's fight week and

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Speaker 6: you see that name.

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00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 5: Salva Bulldozer for Vola lighting up herself on, he got

1105
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 5: to take the call. You know, all right, I'm gonna

1106
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 5: throw a few names at you on the way out

1107
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 5: from UFC two fifty seven.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you can tell me who you want to talk

1109
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 6: about out on.

1110
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 4: The like a test. Is that what we're doing?

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00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 6: Excuse me?

1112
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 4: Like a rush test? Is that the name of the thing.

1113
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 6: It was funny. I don't know what you and those.

1114
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: It's those blotches. It's those blotches on the paper. You

1115
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: have to kind of it's.

1116
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 4: Like every everything you throw me, I'm just gonna say,

1117
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 4: that's what's gonna come to my head. Go ahead try it,

1118
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 4: though believable, you have daughters, Jesus, I think I hope closed.

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00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 5: Uz Bekistan's mock Mood Muata fourteenth.

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00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 4: Martial excuse just a little habit I picked up.

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Speaker 6: We have another show on this platform called Remember the Show.

1122
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 6: You can take that there if you like.

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00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, no, and I like that.

1124
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 6: I prefer to beat that word out actually on the an.

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00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 4: Give me, give me the name again.

1126
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 5: Mack Mood Muata fourteenth consecutive m m A went over

1127
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 5: Andrew Sanchez by t k O. Brad Tavares right, one

1128
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Speaker 5: of the winningest middleweights in UFC history.

1129
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Speaker 6: Can the guy get some credit? Uh?

1130
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 5: And how about the takedown defense for Brad Tavaris. Juliana Pena,

1131
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 5: one of the meanest women in MMA, A woman that

1132
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 5: all of us have wanted to fight for the championship

1133
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 5: for a long time, and now I think Kenny six

1134
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 5: and two in the UFC for Penya Penya. Excuse me

1135
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 5: with this submission when aman A Noons may only have

1136
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 5: a couple of fights left at one hundred and thirty

1137
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 5: five pounds, but I hope one of them is against

1138
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 5: julian A Penya, Uh, Penya Tavores Makmu Murada?

1139
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 6: Who gets the ray long go star?

1140
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 4: I gotta give it to uh the first guy who

1141
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 4: I can't move, Mourada. When you can make a guy

1142
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 4: do to funky chicken like that, I gotta I gotta

1143
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 4: give it. I love Juliana Pena, but I gotta give

1144
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 4: it to uh what's his name again?

1145
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 5: Mack mood Mooradov, God bless you.

1146
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 4: I'm a confused.

1147
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 5: It's early to bring the pronunciation of the week back

1148
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 5: and have long time. We're just going to hand you

1149
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 5: a list of UFC fighters. Have you pronounced them? We'll

1150
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 5: see if you can do better than Bruce Buffer.

1151
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 4: Now I'm giving it to him because Sanchez really showed

1152
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 4: great improvement in his stand up. I like where he

1153
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 4: was heading, but he just ran into a bigger, longer

1154
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 4: powerful guy, and do when your legs go like that.

1155
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 4: I don't even know how he didn't wreck part of

1156
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 4: his body like that was crazy. And he stayed up Kenny,

1157
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 4: which is insane. So I if you can make a

1158
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 4: guy do that, I go with him.

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00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 6: Kenny.

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00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 5: Amanda noon As will next defend her featherweight title and

1161
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 5: not the bandam weeight one. I don't think she has

1162
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 5: too many more cuts down to one hundred and thirty

1163
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 5: five pounds, if I'm being honest, I don't think she's

1164
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 5: in a great rush to grant Valentina chef Chanko the

1165
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 5: trilogy fight because it's two nil in the series. I

1166
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 5: think Penya is as tough a matchup for Amanda at

1167
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 5: thirty five as there is out there.

1168
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Speaker 6: What do you think about Juliana Penya.

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00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: Listen, I think Panya is a tough matchup just given

1170
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: the fact that she's someone who's not gonna go away.

1171
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: She's gonna be trying to win that fight for every second.

1172
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: He's gonna be trying to go forward. Look for those takedowns,

1173
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: and she's tough from that top position. Man got excellent

1174
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: grounded pounds. She has the right mindset. She's as tough

1175
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 1: as they come. Uh and if she's able to get

1176
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: those rounds, you know, into the fourth or fifth rounds

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00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: of that fight, she's gonna be a problem, no question.

1178
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: But I do think Nunas is I think is her

1179
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: best weight. Uh So she's going to be a problem

1180
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: on the feet for for Pana. But I don't mind

1181
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: that fight. I mean, Penny has been a little inconsistent.

1182
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 5: Uh.

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00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: I guess the last fight, the one before that, she

1184
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: she lost. But she's a tough out man, she's got

1185
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: the skills and I think she deserves it.

1186
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 4: Why not I agree one hundred percent.

1187
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 6: All right, Ray, Well, we wish you all the best.

1188
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 5: We know you've got more pressing business than this, so

1189
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 5: thanks for the extended time. And uh, I hope you

1190
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 5: have a great day to better evening. Okay, great day,

1191
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 5: better eating.

1192
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 4: All right, I'm heading to the gym for a little

1193
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 4: funk a doodle do standing and then I'll take that.

1194
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 5: And uh, if if you got that hair for Al

1195
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 5: Joe's fight, it's gonna be hard for us not to

1196
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 5: talk about it over there, so maybe you can get it.

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Speaker 4: Hey, John, I just want to say I'm glad you're

1198
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 4: back safe. I know it was trimps money and thank

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Speaker 4: you great to be great to be talking to you today. Hi,

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00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 4: all right, guys, I will see you next week.

1201
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Speaker 6: You're right, is funny.

1202
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 5: Thank you so much to Ray Longo minute every week

1203
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 5: here on the Anakin Floord Kenny before I let you go.

1204
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 5: So I have not been rooting for the Tampa Bay

1205
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 5: Buccaneers this year. I've been rooting for Tom Brady to

1206
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 5: play well. I don't necessarily need him to go win

1207
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 5: a seventh Super Bowl without the New England Patriots jersey on,

1208
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 5: but Bro, I just have to get your thoughts on

1209
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 5: this on the way out. He's forty three years old.

1210
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 5: He's the most accurate quarterback in the NFL. I know

1211
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 5: he had three interceptions. I know the Tampa Bay defense

1212
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 5: carried him in a lot of respects in this championship game.

1213
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 5: But he just left the Patriots at forty fucking three

1214
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 5: years of age, right as a five seed with the

1215
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 5: Tampa Bay Buccaneers went on the road and won three

1216
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 5: playoff games. What else can you say? What else can

1217
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 5: you say? Another super fucking awfully hard week for the

1218
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 5: Tom Brady haters, and I could just say fucking get

1219
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 5: some all of you, okay, because he's the best. People

1220
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 5: still want to knock the guy, and you can give

1221
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 5: credit to Bruce Arians and everybody else, but it's TV twelve.

1222
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 6: That's the reason the Tampa Bay Bucks are the goddamn

1223
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 6: super Bowl.

1224
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Speaker 1: He is one of the most inspirational athletes that I've

1225
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: ever seen compete, period And we shouldn't have let him

1226
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: go because it was out of respect to Tom Brady

1227
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: and everything that he did for the Patriots. We shouldn't

1228
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: have let him go because he's the best fucking quarterback

1229
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: of the game.

1230
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Speaker 7: Okay, right, he knows how to win, period.

1231
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: Stopped looking at his age, and look what he's doing,

1232
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 1: and look what he continues to do.

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Speaker 7: The guy he looks very.

1234
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 6: Physically like he yeah, Benjamin.

1235
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Speaker 4: Of the league.

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00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 7: For God's sakes, I don't know what he's doing, but

1237
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 7: I need to copy it. And I Tom Brady, what

1238
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 7: the hell you be like Mike?

1239
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 4: Now?

1240
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 7: It's like be like Brady?

1241
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 6: That really it really is.

1242
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 5: And I can start by drinking a little bit more water,

1243
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 5: but it is incredible, and I do believe that for

1244
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 5: all of us. Professional change I think can be refreshing

1245
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 5: and can be good. And I'm just not sure there's

1246
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 5: anything they really could have done. You know, even if

1247
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick said, hey, man, you know, we will let

1248
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 5: you coach more if that's what you want. We'll give

1249
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 5: you the three years, seventy five million at age forty two,

1250
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 5: even though maybe we don't necessarily want to do. I

1251
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 5: just feel like you wanted to push the reset button

1252
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 5: a little bit and go try to bring another team

1253
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 5: to the Super Bowl.

1254
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 6: It's a personal challenge.

1255
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 5: It's a lot nicer in Tampa Bay during a football

1256
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 5: season than it is in New England. And power to him,

1257
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 5: you know, to Sean Shelby, his cousin, in the entire

1258
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 5: Brady family.

1259
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 6: Just a really special win.

1260
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 5: And if I'm being honest too, I mean for Aaron Rodgers, man,

1261
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 5: this is a tough one.

1262
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 4: Man.

1263
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 5: It's like, you see Tom Brady go in there, you know,

1264
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 5: and get his tenth Super Bowl appearance against your one.

1265
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 5: Like somebody said, like, oh, Tom Brady is now tied

1266
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 5: with Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers with one NFC championship.

1267
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 6: It's like, oh my god, oh my god.

1268
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 7: It's crazy.

1269
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: And also like, yeah, let's look at the quot back

1270
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: that he'd just beaten his last two.

1271
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 7: Games, it's insane. I mean, praise the man, dude, I

1272
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 7: just worthy.

1273
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 5: I mean, if you were one of those who like

1274
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 5: planted your flag on this narrative that he was cooked

1275
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 5: like a few years ago. I mean, I've said a

1276
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 5: lot of dumb shit in my day, you know, but

1277
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 5: I don't think i've said anything that though. All Right,

1278
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 5: we got to get on out of here. Thanks to

1279
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 5: our executive producer, Cody Merrow. Thank you to Ray Longo,

1280
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 5: our guest. So we're gonna be back next Monday morning

1281
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 5: most likely, and try to get back into a regular

1282
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 5: cycle there now that the football season is over. Don't

1283
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 5: forget Ken Flow's YouTube channel for all sorts of technique stuff.

1284
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 5: Canniball coming with a calfkick video for sure, because we

1285
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 5: need more more knowledge on that. But congratulations to Dustin

1286
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 5: Pourier and Michael Chandler to everybody else who made UFC

1287
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 5: two fifty seven and Fight Island one of the more

1288
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 5: memorable fight weeks in recent memory. Don't forget to subscribe,

1289
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 5: tell your friends about the show. We appreciate that. And

1290
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 5: there's merchandise Santa florin podcast dot com if you are

1291
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 5: so inclined as well, with that for Ken Flum, John

1292
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 5: and stand so long for now.

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Speaker 6: We will talk to you in less than a week.

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00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 6: Until then you're there.

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Speaker 3: I'm Royal Oaks. Next time, on Too Many Lawyers, we

1296
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 3: take on a couple of villains to sort out whether

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Speaker 3: bad stuff is also illegal stuff. George Santos want a

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Speaker 3: seat in Congress by lying to voters, but is that

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Speaker 3: a crime? And Kanye West made it clear he hates

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Speaker 3: Jews in England, he go to jail for that. Here

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Speaker 3: in America, did he commit a hate crime? Listen to

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